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Autistic teen girl missing four years, SAFE. · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: A fourteen year old teen girl goes missing, seemingly without
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  Speaker 2: a trace.
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  Speaker 3: Was she lured by a predator? Where is she?
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  Speaker 2: In the last hours, we learn teen girl Alisha Navarro
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  Speaker 2: safe and sound.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, the Glendale.
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  Speaker 2: Girl Alicia Navarro missing four years now found. I'm Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: This is Crime Stories. Thanks for being with us here
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  Speaker 2: at Fox Nation and Sirius XM one eleven. Story is
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  Speaker 2: developed this in check we wrote what the Gordondelpd say. Alisha,
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  Speaker 2: now eighteen, goes into a police department in Montana and
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  Speaker 2: asks to be taken and off a missing person's list.
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  Speaker 2: They say she's healthy and happy. How did the whole
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  Speaker 2: thing unfold? Let's start with our friend Dave Matt at
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  Speaker 2: crimeonline dot Com.
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  Speaker 4: Alisha Navarro is fifteen years old and is on the
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  Speaker 4: autism spectrum. Her mother, Jessica, says she is shy and
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  Speaker 4: anxious in some social situations and is in fond of
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  Speaker 4: being out in public much or for very long. She did, however,
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  Speaker 4: like going to McDonald's for chicken McNuggets. Alisa Navarro takes
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  Speaker 4: medicine and has a compromised immune system. She also likes
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  Speaker 4: to wear the same clothes and the same shoes over
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  Speaker 4: and over, which her mother says is because of her autism.
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  Speaker 4: For example, she only wore sweatshirts in Arizona despite the
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  Speaker 4: harsh heat. In the very early hours of September fifteenth,
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  Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, Navarro's mother saw her come down from her
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  Speaker 4: room and get a glass of water around one am.
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  Speaker 4: She made her way back to her room. Later that
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  Speaker 4: same morning, around seven am, Alicia's mother, Jessica, made breakfast
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  Speaker 4: for her husband and her two youngest children. Alicia was
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  Speaker 4: not up yet. When her mom went to check, Lisha
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  Speaker 4: was gone. How can it happen?
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  Speaker 2: Just like that? Mom sees Alisha go to the kitchen
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  Speaker 2: sink and get a glass of water around one am.
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  Speaker 2: When mom checks on Alisha the next morning, just a
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  Speaker 2: few hours later, she's gone with me an all start
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  Speaker 2: panel to break you down and put it back together again.
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  Speaker 2: Trent Steele, who has been working on this case, President
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  Speaker 2: National Director Investigative Operations at the Anti Predator Project at
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  Speaker 2: Anti Predator Project dot org. Jose Santiago, GLENDALEPD Communications Manager
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  Speaker 2: and you can find them at glendaleaz dot com. Forward
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  Speaker 2: Slash Police Alisha Kozak. We know her well. A survivor
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  Speaker 2: who was lured online, was kidnapped, taken far away from
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  Speaker 2: her home, assaulted repeatedly, and then night she believes her
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  Speaker 2: kidnapper was set to kill her to get rid of evidence.
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  Speaker 2: The FBI swoops in and say, sir, I'll let you
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  Speaker 2: hear her tell her story herself. She's at Alicia Kosek
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  Speaker 2: withthek dot com. Doctor Angela Arnold, renowned psychiatrists, joining me
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  Speaker 2: from the Atlanta jurisdiction. She's at Angela Arnold MD dot com,
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  Speaker 2: but first to Sierra Gillespie joining me Crime online dot
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  Speaker 2: com investigative reporter Sierra, let's kick it off with our
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  Speaker 2: friend Ryan Simms at k t VKCBS five, Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: Listen.
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  Speaker 5: Not only are we talking about a girl who depends
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  Speaker 5: on family for everyday things, but in the process she
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  Speaker 5: missed her own birthday party.
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  Speaker 6: We all miss you a lot. I don't know exactly
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  Speaker 6: what happened, but I really don't care.
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  Speaker 3: I just want you to come back home.
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  Speaker 7: Jessica and Nuniez's message is as distressed as it is desperate.
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  Speaker 7: Without any warning at all, she says her daughter Alicia
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  Speaker 7: Navarro left home last Sunday morning and hasn't been seen
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  Speaker 7: or heard from since.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, there is no fight, even though she's aut six.
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  Speaker 6: She doesn't have where she wanders or nothing like that.
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  Speaker 7: Family say Alicia left behind the note saying she was
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  Speaker 7: sorry for leaving and that she would return on Friday,
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  Speaker 7: though her disappearance took on a whole new urgency when
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  Speaker 7: Alicia missed her own fifteenth birthday party. In the end,
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  Speaker 7: family say they served Alicia's birthday cake to the volunteers
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  Speaker 7: searching for her.
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  Speaker 6: My Smather Syblene told me, are we gonna save a
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  Speaker 6: piece for Alisia when she comes back?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know what to say. Do you hear
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  Speaker 3: the pain in mom's voice?
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  Speaker 2: She missed her own birthday party and instead serve the
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  Speaker 2: birthday cake to volunteers who were trying to find Alicia.
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  Speaker 3: Please help us.
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  Speaker 2: Let me at the get go tell you the tip
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  Speaker 2: line nine three zero three thousand, repeat six two three
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  Speaker 2: nine three zero three thousand and Sierra Gillespie Crime online
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  Speaker 2: dot Com hold just one moment because I want to
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  Speaker 2: go first to Alisha Kozak survivor, Alisha, let me give
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  Speaker 2: you a rapid fire set of questions, How old were
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  Speaker 2: you when you were kidnapped?
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  Speaker 8: I was thirteen years old, a young teen.
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  Speaker 3: Just like Alisha.
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  Speaker 2: However, Alisha has the added difficulty of being on the
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  Speaker 2: autism spectrum. You heard the reporters say that very often
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  Speaker 2: she would wear the same clothes all the time, the
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  Speaker 2: same shoes all the time. She's very nervous in social settings.
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  Speaker 2: She depends on her family for her food, her medication.
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  Speaker 2: Alisha Kozak, when you were kidnapped, you had met your kidnapper.
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  Speaker 2: You were shy, beautiful, sweet, great grades. But you were
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  Speaker 2: a little shy and you met a friend online, a
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  Speaker 2: little friend girl right exactly, who turned out to.
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  Speaker 3: Be not a girl at all.
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  Speaker 2: And when you were a kidnapped, isn't it true you
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  Speaker 2: were lured out of your house?
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  Speaker 8: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: I was so, guys, just one of those questions with Alicia,
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  Speaker 2: and she's going to tell you her whole story, because
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  Speaker 2: you've got to hear this.
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  Speaker 3: She's a miracle.
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  Speaker 2: Alicia Kozak at alshakozak dot com. So when we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about this little teen girl, Alicia Navarro who's now missing,
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  Speaker 2: I think she was.
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  Speaker 3: Lured out of her home.
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  Speaker 2: This little girl is not equipped to be even out
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  Speaker 2: of the house to go to a mall on her own.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Sarah Gillespie.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people are acting like they don't care
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  Speaker 2: because they think she left on her own. That's not
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  Speaker 2: what happened. I think this girl was lured out online.
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  Speaker 2: She has no idea what's outside her home. She's autistic, Sierra,
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  Speaker 2: tell me what happened.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Nancy. So some people think she ran away because
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  Speaker 8: she did leave a letter. We've actually seen a letter.
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  Speaker 8: It's been broadcast all over. It's kind of been sloppy handwriting.
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  Speaker 8: But again, when she left, she was only fourteen, and
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  Speaker 8: the letter says, quote, I ran away, I will be back.
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  Speaker 8: I swear. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Held on, Sierra. Let me just get the facts out there.
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  Speaker 2: Had she ever left the home before?
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  Speaker 3: No, not at all.
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  Speaker 8: That rom is very strict about that.
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  Speaker 2: Never to Trent Steel joining me, President, National Director of
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  Speaker 2: Investigative Operations at Anti Predator Project dot Org. Trent Steel,
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  Speaker 2: you are intimately familiar with this case. This little girl,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, for PE's sake, she's still wearing braces on
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  Speaker 2: her teeth.
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  Speaker 3: She's never had a date, she's never.
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  Speaker 2: Even gone to the mall or walked around a department
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  Speaker 2: store by herself. This little girl has a lot of
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  Speaker 2: emotional she she is autistic. This child had never ever
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  Speaker 2: run away in her life.
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  Speaker 3: She was happy at home.
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  Speaker 9: There are no problems, no, no, We've we've spoken with
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  Speaker 9: mom at length about this and there were no problems
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  Speaker 9: in fact, and what we understand, uh at LASTI and
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  Speaker 9: her mom had a fantastic relationship.
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  Speaker 10: They got along well, you know, without disclosing a whole
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  Speaker 10: lot about the investigation, obviously, because it's sill an ongoing
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  Speaker 10: case and we don't want to tip our hands to
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  Speaker 10: what we've got or you know, step on anything that
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  Speaker 10: Glendel Pedi is doing. But I would say that your
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  Speaker 10: assessment of her being lured out of the house is
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  Speaker 10: pretty accurate based on what we know. We think that
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  Speaker 10: she left the house voluntarily to go meet somebody that
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  Speaker 10: she thought she knew or thought she had met online,
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  Speaker 10: and once she got there, she found herself in a
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  Speaker 10: situation that she never expected.
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: I recall in the early morning hour September fifteen, twenty
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  Speaker 2: nineteen teen, girl Alisha writes a note to her sleeping family,
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  Speaker 2: takes a phone and laptop, and is gone. Rumors swirled
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  Speaker 2: online and amongst missing people circles that she was lured
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  Speaker 2: by a predator. How did the whole thing unfold?
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  Speaker 3: Before?
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  Speaker 2: I go to Hosse Santiago, who has kindly joined us
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  Speaker 2: from the Glendale Police Department. Alicia Kozak, survivor who went
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  Speaker 2: through this same thing at age thirteen, And sometimes I
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  Speaker 2: notice that she's telling his story what we know over
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  Speaker 2: the rapes and the sex assaults, and I thank Godra
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  Speaker 2: Angela Arnold.
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  Speaker 3: But now it's because the last day.
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  Speaker 2: To Alicia bound to Alicia will keep saying she left voluntarily.
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  Speaker 3: I know what I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Saying, But when you're out of your home to a
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  Speaker 2: little girl, I don't call that voluntary.
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  Speaker 3: Because children, even under the law, I.
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  Speaker 2: Can't buy a car, they can't buy a home, they
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  Speaker 2: can't enter into a working agreement, or buy alcohol or
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  Speaker 2: cigarettes because they're miners. They don't have the ability to
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  Speaker 2: understand what they're doing. So when you're lured out of
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  Speaker 2: your home the way I think Alicia andvar this little
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  Speaker 2: girl with autism who can't even pick out different clothes
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  Speaker 2: in the morning to wear, so she wears the same
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  Speaker 2: thing every day. Alicia Kozak I don't think that that's
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  Speaker 2: of your own free will. How did you get lured
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  Speaker 2: out of your home?
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  Speaker 3: Alicia Kozak dot com.
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  Speaker 8: Well, children are low risk, assessment, high impulse, and don't
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  Speaker 8: always think things through.
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  Speaker 3: Lett me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you said children are low risk, assessment, high and pulse. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I completely agree with that. I had to think through
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  Speaker 2: what you were saying, go ahead, dear, yes.
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  Speaker 8: And so they don't always think through every decision that
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  Speaker 8: they make. And so for me, I was thirteen, I
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  Speaker 8: was online. I was a really shy child. I didn't
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  Speaker 8: feel unpopular, but I still didn't feel like anybody got me,
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  Speaker 8: anybody understood me, and that's very natural. And then somebody
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  Speaker 8: was online who pretended to be my friend and be
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  Speaker 8: into everything that I was into and to make me
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  Speaker 8: feel special and important and beautiful and unique in a
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  Speaker 8: time when it's really hard to feel any of those things.
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  Speaker 8: And with Alicia, which is triggering to hear the way
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  Speaker 8: it's a relationship. There's just so much here that lined up,
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  Speaker 8: including the little girl's name. But what my mind jumps
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  Speaker 8: to is the fact that this was her birthday month.
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  Speaker 8: Could this have had something to do with that? Because
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  Speaker 8: this has been somebody luring her out as a birthday surprise.
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  Speaker 3: That's really her vulnerability.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's a really good question using her birthday as
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  Speaker 2: a lure. In your case, tell us about Alicia Kosek,
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  Speaker 2: how you were lured out of your home and what
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  Speaker 2: took place.
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  Speaker 8: This person online groomed me for a period of nine months,
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  Speaker 8: and grooming is just pretending to be a child's friend
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  Speaker 8: and making them feel all those things that I said
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  Speaker 8: that it's really difficult to be a kid. Kids don't
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  Speaker 8: ever feel like they're really enough. They can be surrounded
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  Speaker 8: by all the love in the world and still feel different,
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  Speaker 8: still feel out of place, and that's really normal. And
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  Speaker 8: this person made me feel normal. And I did not
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  Speaker 8: know the dangers of the internet before anybody was talking
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  Speaker 8: about that. And one of my vulnerabilities as well was
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  Speaker 8: that I lived in a safe little bubble. My parents
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  Speaker 8: raised me in a world that was beautiful and loving
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  Speaker 8: and not dangerous, and so I wasn't aware. I knew
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  Speaker 8: that danger happened and horrible things, but that happened elsewhere
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  Speaker 8: to other people. And on New Year's Day two thousand
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  Speaker 8: and two, I agreed to meet this person, and I
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  Speaker 8: think about Alicia getting up having a glass of water,
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  Speaker 8: her parents seeing her from seeing her, this being this
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  Speaker 8: very normal situation, although it was three late to night.
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  Speaker 8: It reminds me of my own story in that between
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  Speaker 8: dinner and dessert, I vanished, and I think about my
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  Speaker 8: parents in that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh right, I just got to take what you just said.
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  Speaker 2: Between dinner and dessert, I vanished. What happened?
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  Speaker 8: I walked outside of my house to meet somebody who
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  Speaker 8: I thought was my friend, and he kidnapped me. And
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  Speaker 8: he took me from Pittsford, Pennsylvania, to Virginia and held
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  Speaker 8: me captive in his basement Dungeon and I do. I
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  Speaker 8: don't go into the details for for many reasons, but
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  Speaker 8: one being that it is so hard to talk about it.
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  Speaker 8: It's not it's not easy by any means, even though
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  Speaker 8: it's been all these years. It's very difficult to talk
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  Speaker 8: about it. And still, for the lack of a better term, triggering,
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  Speaker 8: what children suffer is horrendous. And I appreciated your tears
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  Speaker 8: when you were crying for her, because it is likely
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  Speaker 8: that she has suffered something so terrible. And I'm just
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  Speaker 8: so grateful that we were talking about this case.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on guys from the outside looking in at Alicia Kovak,
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  Speaker 2: who we're talking to you right now, you would think, Wow,
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  Speaker 2: she's got it all right. She's young, she's beautiful, she's smart,
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  Speaker 2: she's articulate. She goes every day of her life with
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  Speaker 2: the burden of what she lived through, and it's turned
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  Speaker 2: out around to try to help other people. At thirteen,
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  Speaker 2: she was kidnapped, taken from her own home from a
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  Speaker 2: family meal. She was held with a choke collar, She
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  Speaker 2: was assaulted over and over. She was convinced and not
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  Speaker 2: the FBI miraculously saved her that she was going to
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  Speaker 2: be killed. Alicia, Why in your heart did you know
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  Speaker 2: that that night your kidnapper, Scott Tyree was going.
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  Speaker 3: To kill you.
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  Speaker 8: I knew early on that he didn't have any other
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  Speaker 8: option than to get rid of me at some point,
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  Speaker 8: So I focused on the only power that I had
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  Speaker 8: was trying to stay alive as long as possible and
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  Speaker 8: to get him to see me. My mind jumped into
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  Speaker 8: some sort of something instinctual, and that he sees you
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  Speaker 8: as an object and an object that he wants to
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  Speaker 8: hurt and torture. They can see you as a human,
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  Speaker 8: and so I did whatever I had judic to survive
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  Speaker 8: and try to. It makes my stomacharen to save this word,
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  Speaker 8: but connect with him in whatever way that I could,
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  Speaker 8: And on that day he said, I'm beginning to like
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  Speaker 8: you too much. Tonight we're going to go for a ride.
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  Speaker 8: And I knew at that point that that was not
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  Speaker 8: even a bailed threat. It was very clearly a threat,
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  Speaker 8: and that he was going to kill me. That what
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  Speaker 8: I had been doing to try to humanize myself was
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  Speaker 8: working too well, and he was becoming attached, so he
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  Speaker 8: was going to have to end my life sooner.
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  Speaker 2: All this happened to Alicia Kozak at age thirteen. Think
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  Speaker 2: of your own child, this little girl who not only
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  Speaker 2: is a young teen, she's autistic, and I believe she's
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  Speaker 2: been lured out of her home joining me. Jose Santiago, Glendale, PD. Jose,
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  Speaker 2: what can you tell us about the search for Alicia Novarro?
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  Speaker 2: Why do you believe or do you believe she was
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  Speaker 2: lured out.
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  Speaker 3: Of her home?
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  Speaker 11: I can tell you that we are looking into all
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  Speaker 11: the possibilities here.
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  Speaker 8: We have been following up.
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  Speaker 11: With every lead that's been coming in. We've had a
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  Speaker 11: couple of people say that they've spotted her in very places,
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  Speaker 11: but unfortunately those leads did not turn up Alicia. We
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  Speaker 11: know that that night that she disappeared, we could see
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  Speaker 11: footprints leading to a specific area in the yard and
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  Speaker 11: that Lisa, Alicia did go over the fence.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, you're cutting out on me, Assea
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  Speaker 2: Santiago Glendeal PD.
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  Speaker 3: So you say, how.
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  Speaker 2: Can I'm not even going to question how you saw
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  Speaker 2: the footprints, but you saw footprints leading from front door,
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  Speaker 2: back door, which one from the.
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  Speaker 12: Back door to the officers did see those footprints that
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  Speaker 12: were pointed out by Alicia's parents, and this is something
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  Speaker 12: that just this child just.
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  Speaker 3: Saw the other side of the fence.
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  Speaker 11: There was some debris that appeared that she went over
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  Speaker 11: on that side.
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  Speaker 3: I think she met somebody.
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  Speaker 2: I think she met somebody, because this girl correct me
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  Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, because I want to have the correct
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  Speaker 2: facts and I don't want the facts to blur together
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  Speaker 2: for me. J Santiago Glenda L. Paday, excuse me, Jose.
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  Speaker 2: You say that she you think went over the fence.
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  Speaker 2: But this little girl had never run away, had never
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  Speaker 2: discussed running away. There was no argument that Night.
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  Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: A teen girl goes missing seemingly without a trace.
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  Speaker 3: Was she lured by a predator? Where is she?
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  Speaker 2: So Jose Santiago, What if any clothes are found on
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  Speaker 2: the other side of the fence.
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  Speaker 11: There was just debriss there. There wasn't much to go
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  Speaker 11: on in that particular area. Something that we want to
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  Speaker 11: make note of is that when she disappeared, she did
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  Speaker 11: have her cell phone and she did have her laptop
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  Speaker 11: with her.
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  Speaker 13: Those devices have not been used since she left the home.
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  Speaker 13: So this case really is a mystery because of the
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  Speaker 13: fact that there's just no trace of her anywhere. We've
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  Speaker 13: spoken to her friends, We've spoken to people that were
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  Speaker 13: close to her, which was a very limited group, and
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  Speaker 13: no one seems to have any idea where she may
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  Speaker 13: have gone to it, not evening.
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  Speaker 2: To Trent Still, President, National Directory Investigative Operations, Anti Predator
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  Speaker 2: Project dot Org.
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  Speaker 3: Trent.
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  Speaker 2: That makes me believe even more so that someone lured
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  Speaker 2: her and was waiting for her on the other side
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  Speaker 2: of the fence, because if she had gone on her own,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: you could at least paying or track her cell phone right,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: or she would have made one call or one text
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: or something correct, left your devices go ahead, correct.
• 19:53
  Speaker 10: I would tend to agree with that assessment. You know,
• 19:56
  Speaker 10: I would say WENDELPDS is correct, following you know, every
• 20:01
  Speaker 10: lead that they get in and every scenario, because as
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: of now, we don't have something that points directly to
• 20:07
  Speaker 10: this scenario. This is exactly what happened, This is exactly
• 20:10
  Speaker 10: where she went. We can just say on our end
• 20:13
  Speaker 10: from our investigation that we've conducted that we feel comfortable
• 20:17
  Speaker 10: saying on our end that we believe she met somebody online.
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: We believe that this online relationship, because of her auti's situation,
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: was a long term thing. This was not something that happened,
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: you know, within two weeks or even six months of
• 20:35
  Speaker 10: her going missing. We believe she had been corresponding with
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: this particular individual for quite a while. She left that
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: night to go meet this individual when she had built
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: up some sort of trust with and that's when things
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: went south.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Question to you, has Ai Santiago Glende LPD. Are there
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: any home security surveillance cameras that could be glaned to
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: see where she went or who she met? Are there
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: any tolls that have cameras? For instance, when Alisha Kozak
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: went missing, Alisha, isn't it true that you went through
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: a toll booth with your kidnapper.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Several of them, and what happened when you go through
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: a toll what would go on.
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: In your mind at each tolbooth, I would get a
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: glimmer of hope. At the very first one. I thought
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: that that was the moment that I would be rescued,
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: that I would speak up, that the firstone in the
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: toll booth would ask me something, would notice me crying,
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: would report something, and didn't get no fault of their own.
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: They weren't expecting this to be happening, but that there's
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: so much hope that a child is holding onto in
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: a situation like this, and then it can so easily
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: be cut out, and you search for those little bits
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: of hope.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Take a listen to our friend Linda Williams at Fox ten.
• 21:56
  Speaker 14: Her mother describes her daughter Alisha as a simple girl.
• 21:59
  Speaker 14: She attends Borgaate High School, doesn't even wear makeup, and
• 22:04
  Speaker 14: has a very small group of friends. But she's been
• 22:07
  Speaker 14: missing almost three full days now and the family is
• 22:10
  Speaker 14: sick with worry.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Everybody isn't shocked because you know, she's so vulnerable.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: She can't even go outside.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: She's receiving therapy, just to go outside somewhere.
• 22:22
  Speaker 14: Despite dealing with many anxiety issues. Early Sunday morning, fourteen
• 22:26
  Speaker 14: year old Alicia Navarro left her home near forty fifth
• 22:30
  Speaker 14: Avenue and Bethany Home Road.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: She left this note for her family. I ran away.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: We'll be back. I swear I'm sorry.
• 22:37
  Speaker 14: Alicia Juniez says she fears her daughter is somehow involved
• 22:41
  Speaker 14: with or was drawn away by someone online.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: I want my daughter back. Just please bring her safe
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: and sound. That's all I'm asking from You know she's
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: she needs her help.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Don't take a bad does she so vulnerable? Please just
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: free your back.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: You're hearing Alicia's mom begging for her return, joining me
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: renownedd psychiatrists out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. Doctor Angela Arnold
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: at angela Arnold MD dot com.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Doctor Angela.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: What does it mean to be under the spectrum or
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: on this spectrum?
• 23:24
  Speaker 15: When when someone is diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder? This
• 23:29
  Speaker 15: isn't this is a disorder which which is?
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: It's that people.
• 23:34
  Speaker 15: Can have many different.
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: Levels of this disorder.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 23:39
  Speaker 15: It impacts the nervous system. There is a range and
• 23:43
  Speaker 15: severity of systems of symptoms.
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: Excuse me.
• 23:46
  Speaker 15: That can vary widely. Common symptoms include difficulty with communication,
• 23:52
  Speaker 15: difficulty with social interactions. Oftentimes they will have obsessive interests
• 23:57
  Speaker 15: and they will exhibit repetitive behaveyaviers about and also, just
• 24:04
  Speaker 15: to let you know, autism affects one in fifty four
• 24:07
  Speaker 15: children in the United States today.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: So when you hear doctor Angela Arnold that she will
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: wear the same clothes over and over and over, needs
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: help just to bring herself to leave the home to
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: function normally, what does that mean to you regarding her condition.
• 24:27
  Speaker 15: Well, what it means to me is she's got a
• 24:30
  Speaker 15: high level of autism and she she is a very
• 24:35
  Speaker 15: anxious person, so she needs everything around her to always
• 24:39
  Speaker 15: be the same. Okay, she's so anxious, Nancy, that the
• 24:44
  Speaker 15: feeling of the clothing on.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Her bothers her.
• 24:48
  Speaker 15: Okay, that's why she wears the same thing over again.
• 24:51
  Speaker 15: It can actually be because of the way the clothing
• 24:55
  Speaker 15: feels on her.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I just see a child like this who has I
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: have never left home before, never even discussed leaving home before,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: seemed perfectly happy. It's very hard for me to believe
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: this little girl could devise a plan to leave her
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: home in the dark.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Forever. I don't believe that doctor Angela.
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: Well, oh, I don't either.
• 25:21
  Speaker 15: I don't think she devised a plan at all. I'm
• 25:24
  Speaker 15: quite sure that someone worked on her and lured her
• 25:28
  Speaker 15: out of the home, maybe to her backyard, but I
• 25:32
  Speaker 15: do not believe that she had any any part in
• 25:35
  Speaker 15: devising a plan.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: To Siergillspie Crime online dot Com investigative reporter.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Earlier, we heard Jose.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Santiago mentioned there had been sightings of her that did
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: not pan out.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: What can you tell me about those sightings?
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: So, Nancy, there were a couple different people who came
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: forward to police and said that they saw her somewhere
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: in the Glendale area, kind of near her home, but
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: not super close. There were two separate incidences that I saw.
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: People said that they saw Alisi a walking hand in
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: hand with an older man, which could be a suspect
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: in this case. But again, those we kind of dried
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: up pretty quickly.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Two Jose Santiago Glende LPD. Jose, you heard Trent still
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: state that he, as part of his own investigation with
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: the Anti Predator Project, firmly believes she was lured from
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: the home and that it was a cultivated relationship that
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: someone had sparked with this little girl online. Is there
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: a way that you could capture her texts? Are they
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: in the iCloud? Is there any way to was her
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: phone pained? I mean, what can you tell me about
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: that avenue? The forensic avenue of her phone.
• 27:01
  Speaker 11: What I can tell you is that once again, her
• 27:03
  Speaker 11: cell phone and her laptop have not turned on since
• 27:06
  Speaker 11: the night she disappeared from her home. That said, we
• 27:10
  Speaker 11: are in the process of working with different apps, different
• 27:14
  Speaker 11: social media sites to access as much information as possible
• 27:19
  Speaker 11: to see who, indeed she was communicating with days, weeks,
• 27:24
  Speaker 11: months prior to her disappearance. You know, it's important for
• 27:27
  Speaker 11: people to know that we are exhausting every means possible
• 27:31
  Speaker 11: because we want the best result possible for this family.
• 27:33
  Speaker 11: We know how difficult this is. We're getting close to
• 27:36
  Speaker 11: the one year mark and Jessica, her mom, has been
• 27:41
  Speaker 11: over the top with this as far as her support
• 27:45
  Speaker 11: and cooperating with our officers in every way, shape or form.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Take a listen to our friend Ryan Simmons at KTVKCBS five.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: Family say Alicia is not only autistic, but struggles to
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: feed herself. Day six of her missing means day six
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: without the things she needs to get by.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: It hits me a.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: Lot knowing that she's out there and not receiving the
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: services or medication.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: Across Glendale, missing posters of Alicia plastered on the doors
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: of businesses. Families hope even the slightest miner of tips
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: will help bring Alicia home.
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: But just get the word out there. I mean, she's
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: somewhere out there. My little girl is somewhere out there
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: at now.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Alicia's family say they believe she was coaxed to leave
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: her home by someone else. Police have not commented or
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: confirmed that yet.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Joining me a special guest, Alicia Kozak, you can find
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: her at Alicia Kosak dot com, who was lured from
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: her home with her family there. As she just said,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: between dinner and dessert at a holiday.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Meal, she vanished.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: She was gone for a long time, held by her kidnapper.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Alicia Kozak, thank you for sharing with us. What do
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: you advise from your point of view having lived through this,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: for police and investigators to do well.
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: Alicia was heavily involved in gaming, and gaming is a
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: very It's an easy way to lord children because you
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: are playing a game with them, you are already being
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: a friend with them. So it's really important to not
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: only check those different apps, but to look into the
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: gaming platforms as well as the gaming forums, so to
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: hop on to discord and to stream and to see
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: who she was playing those games with, as well as
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: I keeps toping my head with their gaming convention at
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: the time, that this person could have said, Hey, I
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: either's a gaming convention in town, or stayed over or
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: wherever would you like to go. It's a birthday surprise.
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: You'll be home before whatever date, your parents won't even
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: know you're missing whatever. So that there's very, very clear
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: ways that she could have been blored here. There's so
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: many vulnerabilities, and that's what a predator is seeking to do.
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: They are looking for those vulnerabilities in order to exploit them.
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: And Ausia had them so clearly an upfront that it
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: would not be a difficult task to get this child
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: to do what you wanted her to do, and to
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: think that it was a good choice for her, that
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: it was fun, that it was something that would bring
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: about a good outcome for her, when in reality she
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: is now still missing. A almost a year later.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Trent still with a president, National Director Investigative Operations, Anti
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Predator Project dot Org.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Trent, you heard.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Alicia Kozak state that Alicia Navarro was a gamer. She
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: loved to play games online. What games did she play? Trent?
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: Well, we are aware that she was a gamer, and
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: because the games that she was playing are heavily involved
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: in our investigation. And I don't know if if gwynd
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: LPD is looking at them or not. I'm not going
• 31:19
  Speaker 10: to disclose specifically what games and what gaming platforms we're
• 31:22
  Speaker 10: looking at. All I can do is confirm that they
• 31:25
  Speaker 10: we are aware of that and we are looking at Okay.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Great, Jose Santiago, do you know the games so I
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: can warn other parents about it that she was playing?
• 31:33
  Speaker 12: Do you know?
• 31:35
  Speaker 11: In unison with Trent, we are keeping that information just
• 31:38
  Speaker 11: because it would hinder the investigation, and so we are
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: just looking into everything that we could find on not
• 31:45
  Speaker 11: only her phone, but as well as her laptop as well.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Alisha, because you stated that Alicia Navarro played games like
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: my son does. What games are you referring to, Alicia?
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: Well, any in all games can be a risk. Any
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: game that has any connection to anybody can be a risk,
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: and there are so many that children play. It's not
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: a specific game it is it's usually one that is
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: popular because that's where the kids are, so that's where
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: the predators are seeking children. But what is interesting is
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: that when it comes to gaming, it's likely that she
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: was also playing with other people as well. So there
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: is hopefully a wealth of knowledge that law enforcement is
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: looking into, and that's really great. But it is so
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: important to be careful on all of these games, to
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: talk to your children about the fact that they may
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: be playing with somebody who isn't who they say they are,
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: and that it is such an easy way to, like
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: I said, to groom a child and just to pretend
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: to be that friend and to spend time with them
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: and a way that they feel safe and comfortable and
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: they're having fun. Grooming feels good, and grooming it feels
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: fun in the beginning because this child is getting what
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: they feel that they need or that they're craving.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Take a listen to our friend Jamie Warren at kay
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: in x v ABC fifteen.
• 33:14
  Speaker 16: Friday was Alicia Navarro's fifteenth birthday. Read but Alicia wasn't
• 33:23
  Speaker 16: at her own party.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I'm Happy Bird.
• 33:27
  Speaker 16: Through many tears, her mom, Jessica Nuniez sings to her.
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: When she comes back, because I have faith she's going
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: to come back. She will see how much she was
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: loved and missed.
• 33:39
  Speaker 16: Nunias spending the past week taping up flyers searching for
• 33:44
  Speaker 16: her daughter, who she says has autism and relies on
• 33:47
  Speaker 16: medication and the help of her family.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: She doesn't know how to be here by herself. Does
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: that make sense? She doesn't know how to take a bus.
• 33:55
  Speaker 16: But Nunia says when she woke up on September fifteenth,
• 33:58
  Speaker 16: Alicia was no where to be found. She says she
• 34:01
  Speaker 16: left behind a note that read.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I rang away, I will be back. I swear I'm sorry.
• 34:07
  Speaker 16: Nunie says the two never had a fight and Alicia
• 34:11
  Speaker 16: never mentioned she was unhappy.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: It was just out of character for her.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: But now in the last days, Alicia found safe. Take
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: a listen to kay n XV ABC fifteen.
• 34:26
  Speaker 17: After almost four years, Glendale police say Alicia Navarro showed
• 34:30
  Speaker 17: up boss elf at a police station in Montana. Now
• 34:33
  Speaker 17: the investigation into how she got there and what happened
• 34:36
  Speaker 17: since twenty nineteen begins.
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: My daughter Alisia Navarrow was missing since September fifteenth, twenty nineteen,
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: she has been found safe.
• 34:46
  Speaker 17: Glendale Police saying the teen, now eighteen years old, was
• 34:48
  Speaker 17: found about forty miles away from the Canadian border in
• 34:51
  Speaker 17: a small Montana town.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: She went to a global police department in that area.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: She identified herself as Alicia Navara.
• 35:00
  Speaker 17: Glendelle Police sending us clips from interviews. Officers were able
• 35:03
  Speaker 17: to do virtually with Alicia before seeing the teen face
• 35:07
  Speaker 17: to face.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Did anybody hurt you in any way?
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: You please say?
• 35:13
  Speaker 17: Alicia knew her disappearance gained a lot of attention after
• 35:16
  Speaker 17: all these years. I asked police if Alicia gave any
• 35:19
  Speaker 17: indication of why she decided to identify herself now.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: She's expressed a desire to move forward in life and
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: do the things that a normal, healthy adult would do.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: One girl found safe, so many others still missing. Nancy
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Grace calm story signing off Goodbye friend.