Latest / Wired To Hunt Podcast / Ep. 848: Rut Fresh Radio - Bucks Breaking Loose

Transcript

Ep. 848: Rut Fresh Radio - Bucks Breaking Loose · Wired To Hunt Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tail Woods, presented by
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: First Light, creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand,
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: saddle or blind. First Light Go farther, stay longer, and
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: now your hosts, Casey Smith and Tyler Jones.
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: It's the second half of November, but just like a twikie,
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: the second half is the best half of the rut.
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: This is rot Fresh. Let's go.
• 0:47
  Speaker 3: What's going on?
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: Everyone? Welcome? Rot Fresh Radio brought you my first light year.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: I'm your host Casey Smith and Tyler Jones is here.
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: I tried to see how fast I could say at
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: this time, and I know that all you Northerners are
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: just thinking I'm speaking a different language, so sorry you are.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: But good news is that what we have to say,
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: uh is somewhat implicative for you. But we do have
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: some Northern guests in today's ret Fresh Radio that's going
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: to really give you all the deats on what's going
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: down around the country. But first, Tyler Jones, the master
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: of all things balancing, balancing life and hunting, and I'm
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: actually not abo balancing stuff on your nose right now.
• 1:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh, Tyler.
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: We just watched a video where you were on the
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: ground chasing a big giant buck. I would like to
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: know for the folks out there, why you decided to
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: chase that deer around on the ground as opposed to
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: try to ambush that deer.
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: And I think this kind of applies to us.
• 1:49
  Speaker 4: One that hasn't been released yet. Yeah, released potentially, because
• 1:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know if they're spending hardly any time in
• 1:57
  Speaker 4: the trees.
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: Well, you could also ambush from the ground somewhere or whatever,
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: like groundbline.
• 2:04
  Speaker 4: Because he was cruising and I just felt like it
• 2:07
  Speaker 4: was the time was of the essence. I saw him
• 2:10
  Speaker 4: and I knew he was heading to a certain direction.
• 2:12
  Speaker 4: He's gonna be on his feet for a second, so
• 2:15
  Speaker 4: I wait and got him.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: So you just made an impulsive decision to just get
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: out there and get after him. Yeah, you got closed.
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: And that's that's.
• 2:25
  Speaker 3: Kind of the name of the game on the ground.
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: Thing we've found out is that you got to try
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: it quite a bit both so you can learn and
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: you're gonna mess it up sometimes, so you can't be
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: too in love with a deer.
• 2:35
  Speaker 3: But I think it's true.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: One of the things that people are encountering around the
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: country currently is some form of rout lockdown and you
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: have deer that are coming in out of it, depending
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: on where you're at in the country, the ruts and
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: different stages.
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: But we all hear about lockdown.
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: We've been talking about it some and you're gonna hear
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: some about it in today's interviews. But I do think
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: that one of the ways that you can overcome circumvent
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: what's another word for that kind of stuff round about? Yeah,
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: you can, you can, uh, you can get over lockdown
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: by if the deer aren't moving around, what what's the
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: what's the X factor?
• 3:14
  Speaker 3: You need to move around? Right?
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody has to move for an X and a
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: Y to intersect on a graph, right, And if you
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: were the WY and the deer the X and you're
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: trying to intersect the deer, the deer isn't moving, then
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: you have to move. And so I think that that's
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: a big, big thing that if you're struggling with lockdown,
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: it's a thing that you can do to potentially overcome
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: that stuff. Move around in the truck, on the ground,
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: whatever it may be, and figure out where deer is.
• 3:38
  Speaker 3: That way you can go hunting and killing.
• 3:40
  Speaker 4: M hmm, yeah, I think you know, some of our
• 3:42
  Speaker 4: guests this week probably have similar thoughts about some of
• 3:44
  Speaker 4: that stuff too. It's a good way to blow up
• 3:48
  Speaker 4: a property, it is, so if you don't have a
• 3:50
  Speaker 4: lot of acreage or if you've got a target buck,
• 3:52
  Speaker 4: that's just not probably the best idea in most situations.
• 3:57
  Speaker 3: H Yeah.
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: And also if you're hunting public land, it is public
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: land and you have every right to use it. But
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: I tend to lean towards being considerate of others and
• 4:07
  Speaker 2: so make those choices whenever. If you are stomping around,
• 4:11
  Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, don't ruin somebody else's day.
• 4:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh yeah. I mean, if you're doing that
• 4:18
  Speaker 4: kind of stuff within a half mile of a parking area,
• 4:20
  Speaker 4: you're probably gonna run into some people, you know what
• 4:22
  Speaker 4: I mean. You do it a mile and a half back,
• 4:24
  Speaker 4: it might be a little different. Or if it's you know,
• 4:26
  Speaker 4: open country, you can tell nobody's there. Or if it's a
• 4:28
  Speaker 4: one parking lot parcel right then nobody's at that parking lot,
• 4:32
  Speaker 4: then cool, go in there and do it or whatever.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: Tyler. One of the questions I asked people asks people
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: a lot today in this podcast was are you going
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: out trying to find those bucks in lockdown or are you
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: waiting on them to come off their dos and catch
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: them in their pinch points? Between those and you get
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: different answers on that. What's your answer to that.
• 4:58
  Speaker 4: I think it's depending dependent upon the habitat you're hunting,
• 5:02
  Speaker 4: probably as much as anything. But I think for the
• 5:04
  Speaker 4: majority of the country, I would be what I would
• 5:08
  Speaker 4: be doing is I'd be sitting somewhere probably pretty close
• 5:10
  Speaker 4: to dough betting or potentially in a funnel or pinch point.
• 5:15
  Speaker 4: But for me personally, I'm not saying that I wouldn't
• 5:18
  Speaker 4: do that, but I would try to find somewhere on
• 5:21
  Speaker 4: the downwind side of dough betting to be because the
• 5:25
  Speaker 4: thing that that buck probably wants to do is go
• 5:29
  Speaker 4: find another deer pretty soon. Also, food is not a
• 5:32
  Speaker 4: bad option because what you'll have I think a lot
• 5:34
  Speaker 4: of times is if people won't talk about this very often,
• 5:36
  Speaker 4: but when a buck comes off of a dough, he
• 5:39
  Speaker 4: may not be quite as ramped up as he will
• 5:41
  Speaker 4: be in say, fifteen sixteen, twenty hours, whatever, twenty four hours.
• 5:45
  Speaker 4: So the first thing he does after being locked down
• 5:48
  Speaker 4: for two days and not eating anything probably is probably
• 5:51
  Speaker 4: go grab something to eat. And we do see this
• 5:54
  Speaker 4: in places that you can put corn out. A lot
• 5:58
  Speaker 4: of times we'll see where we don't see a buck
• 6:01
  Speaker 4: for several days or even you and I have witnessed
• 6:04
  Speaker 4: a buck being out like on the prairie for a
• 6:06
  Speaker 4: few days in lockdown, and then a day later finally
• 6:11
  Speaker 4: he'll go eat at one of our you know, corn piles, feeders,
• 6:15
  Speaker 4: whatever they are, and we'll get them on camera. So
• 6:18
  Speaker 4: I think even though they're not there long, there's two
• 6:21
  Speaker 4: things that it's kind of a twofold situation where that
• 6:23
  Speaker 4: he was getting a little bit of food, getting some
• 6:25
  Speaker 4: cars because he has to have that every once in
• 6:27
  Speaker 4: a while. And then he's also at a place that
• 6:30
  Speaker 4: does frequent when he goes to corn, you know what
• 6:33
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: On that's subject of doughbetting, I kind of think that
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: you could be there at the wrong.
• 6:39
  Speaker 3: Time of day. What time of day do you think
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: is the time to be there?
• 6:48
  Speaker 4: I I like, man, this is a good question. Let
• 6:53
  Speaker 4: me think about this for a second. So the bucks
• 7:00
  Speaker 4: are going to find new doughs at night almost I
• 7:03
  Speaker 4: mean often so because there's just a lot of traversing
• 7:09
  Speaker 4: open country and road stuff that's like in proximity to roads.
• 7:13
  Speaker 3: And everything becomes covered in the cover of darkness, right right.
• 7:16
  Speaker 4: So want to you see deer that I hit her
• 7:18
  Speaker 4: in the highway a lot of times at night because
• 7:20
  Speaker 4: the deer don't want to hang out there until of
• 7:21
  Speaker 4: a sudden it's dark and they're not nearly as worried.
• 7:25
  Speaker 4: So a lot of times a dough or a deer
• 7:28
  Speaker 4: is going to pick up a dough, a buck is
• 7:30
  Speaker 4: going to pick up a dough at night, and then
• 7:33
  Speaker 4: when the daylight comes, he's going to be shadowing her.
• 7:36
  Speaker 4: So I think I would be more apt to be
• 7:39
  Speaker 4: in the evening be around do betting.
• 7:41
  Speaker 3: Is that what you think? I'm opposite?
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, I think on that, And maybe it's because we're
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: thinking about the situation differently. I'm thinking about bucks checking
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: dobating that aren't on.
• 7:51
  Speaker 3: Doughs, and so to me, well, that's what I'm thinking too.
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: It makes sense that you'd want to be on dobatting
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: in the morning till late morning because those doughs are
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: gonna go end up bedding depending where you're out in
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: the country between nine and ten thirty, and then those
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: bucks are going to swing down windo those dough betting
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: areas in those timeframes in the evening oftentimes, especially this
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: time of year, if it's cold, dose might be on
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: their feet like an hour hour and a half for sunset,
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: and who knows where they go at that point time.
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: That's when I think about being closer to food for
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: the evening, because those.
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: Dogs are gonna that's what they're gonna do.
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: They're gonna go find some food that's potentially not in
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: a wide open aggfield. And so you might want to
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: be somewhere between that betting and that food because that's where.
• 8:37
  Speaker 3: The bucks are going to cruise through.
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: But I think like if you're hunting, like I'm thinking
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: about a specific place that I hunted this past week
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: that it worked, except the buck that I wanted to
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: shoot didn't show up. We got some sick stuff of
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: just the rut action. Though it was fun, but it
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: was you know, there's the morning flurry of deer and
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: then we had like an hour period we didn't see anything,
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, here there's to at least
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: three year olds that come cruising by.
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: You know, right there we're set up down wind.
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: I could have shot him a seven yards, you know,
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: and it was like at ten o'clock probably.
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: So that's my thoughts on the dough betting. It's a
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: good thought.
• 9:14
  Speaker 4: I thought that that one thing you could see, like
• 9:19
  Speaker 4: one thing I saw a lot, was deer picking up
• 9:21
  Speaker 4: the dough at night and then just sticking with them
• 9:22
  Speaker 4: and bedding with them.
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: You think that's what dough goes where she wants to?
• 9:25
  Speaker 5: Do?
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: You think he's taken her somewhere.
• 9:29
  Speaker 4: I think most of the time the doe goes or
• 9:31
  Speaker 4: she wants to. But I think there are times when
• 9:33
  Speaker 4: a buck will take her somewhere. I'll at least head
• 9:36
  Speaker 4: her off from a different certain a couple bucks being
• 9:38
  Speaker 4: really great. Like I saw one buck stomping his foot
• 9:40
  Speaker 4: at a dough making her go a different direction. This
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: past week I saw it happened to where it's more
• 9:47
  Speaker 4: like a sheep dog working where it's like, no, you
• 9:50
  Speaker 4: can't go this way, but you can go the one
• 9:51
  Speaker 4: hundred and eighty degrees that way. That's fine, you know
• 9:53
  Speaker 4: what I mean. So it's like wherever we end up
• 9:55
  Speaker 4: up here. I don't really have a whole lot of
• 9:56
  Speaker 4: say to that. I just want to make sure that
• 9:58
  Speaker 4: you're not going down there because that's where all the
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: other bucks hang out.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, why don't we get the opinion of everyone
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: else around the country about what's going on in the woods?
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: Right now? Tyler, who are we talking to today?
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: We got Scotty Lego up in New Hampshire, a state
• 10:11
  Speaker 4: that we don't often have on rut Fresh and I'm
• 10:13
  Speaker 4: glad to have. There's a guy, he's kind of a
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: random guy named Clay Nukelem in Oklahoma that is going
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: to be on here too. You're gonna do some interviewing
• 10:22
  Speaker 4: with him, y'all will probably he and Hall and p
• 10:24
  Speaker 4: and Paul around quite a bit. And then Alex Comstock
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: he's been out in the you know what we might
• 10:33
  Speaker 4: call the midwest Minnesota. And Josh Elderton from West Virginia,
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: everybody's best friend. Josh is up there just being a
• 10:42
  Speaker 4: mountain man, hanging out and watching deer do things in
• 10:46
  Speaker 4: a unique part of the country where deer hunted, kind
• 10:50
  Speaker 4: of unlike a lot of other places. Awesome, let's get
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: him on the phone. We've got Scotty Lego on the
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: phone again. He did a Massachusetts report for US few
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: weeks back. But now You've been spending some time in
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: New Hampshire. Is that where you're from. Yeah, I live.
• 11:05
  Speaker 6: I live right on the border of Massachusetts, so I'm
• 11:07
  Speaker 6: I'm popping over to Massachusetts and and uh, you know,
• 11:11
  Speaker 6: and Maine's really not too far away either, so gotcha
• 11:14
  Speaker 6: cool in New England states, you know, they're a little
• 11:16
  Speaker 6: bit smaller than uh, Texas.
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so weird, dude.
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: We're like, yeah, we'll head over, you know, to another
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: county a couple hours away. So yeah, so going over
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: different states, it's so different, man. So what's been going
• 11:28
  Speaker 4: on there?
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: Man? What you been seeing as far as whitetail movement goes, Man,
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: it's been good. It's been real good.
• 11:34
  Speaker 6: We've been having some uh, real cold mornings. I mean,
• 11:37
  Speaker 6: you know into the you know, high twenties or you know,
• 11:41
  Speaker 6: low thirties. Movement's been really good. Not so much as
• 11:47
  Speaker 6: of super regionally. The last you know, a few days,
• 11:50
  Speaker 6: I would say, I feel like, you know, maybe the
• 11:52
  Speaker 6: lockdown has started. Some of the bigger bucks you know,
• 11:55
  Speaker 6: have have doze and there's little weird spots take them
• 11:58
  Speaker 6: off in their weird spots or whatever. So I haven't uh,
• 12:02
  Speaker 6: you know, by observation scene too many big bucks and
• 12:06
  Speaker 6: my show cams have kind of gone a little bit dead,
• 12:09
  Speaker 6: but I have about shoe cams on on scrapes right
• 12:11
  Speaker 6: I don't feel like they're hitting scrapes too hard right now,
• 12:14
  Speaker 6: but they're moving, you know, they're moving, and uh, you
• 12:19
  Speaker 6: know it's it's it's been good.
• 12:21
  Speaker 4: So would you say that you know, like moving into
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: some of the more kind of uh like like I
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: always think of like shelter belts in farm country. You know,
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: like there might be a shelter belt up by the road,
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: it's real thick. Do you might you know, take a
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: dough into Is there something that kind of correlates up
• 12:37
  Speaker 4: in that country?
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: It's similar, Yeah, I mean I've seen it.
• 12:41
  Speaker 6: You know when they'll they'll take a dough and you
• 12:44
  Speaker 6: know bring them over by you know, some water, either
• 12:47
  Speaker 6: a river or pond and have their scent you know,
• 12:51
  Speaker 6: blowing blowing over an area where do you really just
• 12:54
  Speaker 6: don't frequent you'll find them in like kind of random
• 12:57
  Speaker 6: spots that you know a little chunk of area you
• 13:01
  Speaker 6: know that you know obviously doesn't see any hunting pressure,
• 13:04
  Speaker 6: but doesn't really see too much deer movement either. That's
• 13:06
  Speaker 6: kind of where I've found where the bucks will bring
• 13:08
  Speaker 6: the bring the dos for you know, doing their things.
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: M m hm.
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: So do you go and try to seek these places
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: out and like try to play the chess game, or
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: are you kind of gonna sit back at the places
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: you know, we're good rut funnels and just wait on
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: those bucks to break off of those doughs.
• 13:27
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 13:27
  Speaker 6: I don't go try to seek them out. I just
• 13:30
  Speaker 6: you know, randomly bump into them, you know, here and there.
• 13:33
  Speaker 6: If I'm on the you know, if i'm the I'm
• 13:36
  Speaker 6: on the ground or whatever, or obviously if I have
• 13:39
  Speaker 6: an opportunity, you know, and I I do, you know,
• 13:42
  Speaker 6: find a buck with a dough, I'm you know, I'll
• 13:44
  Speaker 6: try to make a move, but I don't actually seek
• 13:46
  Speaker 6: him out. I just kind of stick into the program,
• 13:49
  Speaker 6: which is all new to me too. Like I'm still learning,
• 13:52
  Speaker 6: you know, I've been hunting my whole life, but I'm
• 13:55
  Speaker 6: still learning new stuff every every year. So this year
• 13:59
  Speaker 6: has been a big eye opener for me.
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: As far as sit your.
• 14:02
  Speaker 6: Butt in the stand a lot longer than you than
• 14:05
  Speaker 6: you used to. I always have a hard time with that,
• 14:09
  Speaker 6: you know, I'm always itching to get out of the
• 14:11
  Speaker 6: stand and from everything. What I've seen in the past
• 14:14
  Speaker 6: is like, oh, dear, movement kind of just you know,
• 14:16
  Speaker 6: stops like you know, just like the first two hours
• 14:19
  Speaker 6: of daylight. But I've been, uh, I've been realizing that
• 14:23
  Speaker 6: you just need to sit and stand a lot longer.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: So in New Hampshire there, what are we in the
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: core of those dates that it's worth staying in the
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: stand all day?
• 14:31
  Speaker 6: I would say so, yeah, I'd say we're right in
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: the you know, right in the core of it. Maybe
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: a little bit on the the post side of it,
• 14:39
  Speaker 6: on the late side of it.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: So with the with the bucks being in lockdown this
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: past week, do you foresee them breaking off and being
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: more active, being more you know, being more movement in
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: the buck patterns this week? Or are they going to
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: stay similar to last week with you know a lot
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: of lockdown going on.
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: I don't know, uh, I you know, I I can
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: only I can only take my best guesses.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: But you know, you know, once a.
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: Buck's done with with the dough, I would imagine he
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: would be on the on the search for another one.
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: I think they, you know, they know how to work
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: good landscape so well, and you know they'll they'll be
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: they'll be cruising out you know, looking. I don't know
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: what time of day, you know, it might happen the
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: middle of the night, who knows, but you know you
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: got to you gotta be out there to get take
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: take advantage of it.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: Mm hm cool.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: So with all that being said and kind of your
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: observances you've had, uh, looking forward for the next week here,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: you know we're in we're willing to the teens and
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: even into the twenties of November. Uh, what do you
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: think you're gonna rank buck movement on a scale of
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: one to ten for the next week.
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: One to ten.
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: Well, we do have a little bit of stagnant weather
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: coming up here.
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: It has been epic. I don't know if it's gonna be.
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: Epic going going on too much longer here.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it a seven and a half.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: It sounds like a pretty good reason to get in
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: the woods. Still promising, still promising, Well, Scottie. I appreciate
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: the report from New Hampshire man, and hope you have
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: a great rest of the year.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: Dude, all right, I appreciate it.
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: I hope you guys get a big one here soon too.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Now we have got Clay Nukem for the Bear Grease podcast.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: He's been doing some hunting in Oklahoma. Clay, what's happening
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: right now?
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Brother?
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: Hey man, I'll tell you what it's. I think it's
• 16:26
  Speaker 7: a good time to be in the woods. Yeah, really
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: anywhere in the Midwest, but it sure looks like it's
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: a good time to be in the woods right now
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: in Oklahoma.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You've actually, funny enough, You've had some success and
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: they're seeking more success, right So tell me what are
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: the bucks doing right now in Oklahoma?
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: Well? I killed a buck on November thirteenth, which was
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: like a few days ago.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: And.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: That deer it was I believed.
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: It to be a four and a half year old
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: deer and that more horning. I had rattled that deer
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: in and I put a little Instagram deal up, But
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: basically I clacked the horns together early in the morning
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: and that deer came running in. I recognized him. I'd
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: had a picture of him, and he didn't want to
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: break that forty yard barrier and I didn't have a decoy,
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: and you know, he kind of got away, so he
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: was bouncing around in daylight by himself, responding to rattling horns.
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: That was November thirteenth, which is a few days ago.
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: I killed that deer six hundred yards away that evening
• 17:33
  Speaker 7: in a little post o pinch point, and you know,
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: went over there, not expecting to see that deer and
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: he was by himself again cruising through that pinch point
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: on November thirteenth, which was a little surprising to me.
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: And in that little micro area, that was actually the
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: biggest deer that I had on camera. So I mean,
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: I felt like it was, you know, like a dominant
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: deer and he was not with a dough and on
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: my cameras. Since then, I have I feel like they're
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: locking down more because I have not got the pictures of.
• 18:15
  Speaker 8: The cruising bucks like I was before, Like a week ago,
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: I was getting a lot of pictures alone deer just
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: passing in front of cameras, you know, and it's been
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: a couple of days since I've seen that, so I
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: would imagine it's kind of like.
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: It feels like the bigger deer probably locked down.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Clay, you called it a post oak pinch point, which
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: is also known as a pop around here. Is the
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: post oak is is that Why do you say that?
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Are they eating post oak acorns right now or what's
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: the deal?
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they are.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: I opened up this buck stomach that I killed on
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: the thirteenth, and he had uh pre simmons in him,
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: but mainly post okc acorns, and and he had a
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: little bit of corn. You know, they're they're feeding some
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: corn around that area and uh but but not much corn,
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: but mainly post occrens. And he was that's what those
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: deer were. I saw that there's a lot of good
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: acrens still on the ground over there.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: So you're using camera dad quite a bit? Are you
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: running cameras over that corn to kind of keep an inventory?
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: I've got I've got some cameras over corn, just in spots.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: I didn't get to scout this place until first time
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: I set foot on the place I'm hunting was November
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: the eighth. I mean, I've never even been on the
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: property before, man, and I just kind of wanted to
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: see what was going on there, and so I did
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: put out some feed and a camera. Like in places
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: that I probably wouldn't even hunt, I just had a
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: day and just kind of bombed in there and uh,
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: and they're not they're not hitting feed real good over there.
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: Doesn't seem like to me, but it's because there's so
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: many post oakes.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're still kind of waiting on a frost for
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: to kind of make a change in that stuff.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: It seems like, yeah, yeah, but there's also a lot
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: of per simmons in that country, and I saw quite
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: a few deer eating per simmons.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: I had a good buddy over there tell me that
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: he feels like this week is a is a great
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: week in Oklahoma, you know, a week before the gun
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: deer season starts, you know, for both mont So what.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Are you going to do tactic wise that kind of
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: might change a little bit there, you know.
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: I mean I can't. I'm just gonna hunt pinch points.
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's really all I'm gonna do. I'm just
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: gonna I'm just gonna hunt these little pinch points where
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: there's food because they're there's food in there, so they're traveling,
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: but they're also they're also eating, and we'll be trying
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: to catch one in between dose or with a dough
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: that's just coming through there. So one hundred percent I'm
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: hunting these little pinch points, and in the area I'm hunting,
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of them. They're they're kind of nuanced.
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: They're not as clear as like a midwestern agfield creek
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: pinch point, you know, a big agfields on either side.
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: They're they're a little more nuanced over there because it's
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: a lot of brush, a lot of brushy stuff and
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: in some pasture no no row crop ag or anything.
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: But you'll you'll kind of find these little bands of
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: timber through there. Sure, and uh, and there's deer using them, man,
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: for sure.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: So you've been seeing them walk down a little bit,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: are they do? You expect them to start coming off
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: of doze as you go up there this week?
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: You know, I've never hunted over there this late. It's
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: specific and that in Oklahoma, so I don't really know,
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: but I know I'm about three hours away and in Arkansas. Man,
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: by about the twenty fifth of November, I feel like
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: most of the breeding is done now, not most of
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: the running activity. I feel like the bucks are cruising
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: and it's a fantastic time to kill a deers the
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: last week in November here, But it's not because they're
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: chasing dose. I mean, it's more like that first week
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: in November and then man by December. First my experience
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: in my part of the world in Arkansas is, Man,
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: they're like back on feed, acting like they don't care
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: a thing about it though, just just but in between
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: now and then, I think it'll be good. But I
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: think so.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe you, man.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: And so if you're gonna rake the buck movement on
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: a scale of one to ten over the next week
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: in Oklahoma, what are you gonna give it seven?
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: You already knew your number. You're ready to go seven
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: towards number?
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: Yep?
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Does that mean okay? Since you're headed to go hunting
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: right now, I can give you a special guest opportunity
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: to call your shot.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Are you killing another buck this week?
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: Well, my son bear, I'm gonna call him killing an
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: ice deer? Nice, I'm gonna you know, there's a two
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: buck limit in Oklahoma, so I could I could shoot
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: another buck, but I'm probably gonna try to kill a
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: doe or two, and so that probably will hurt my
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: chances of killing a buck and blessed.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Ladies in the woods.
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but I'm not opposed to shooting. I mean,
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: i'd love to kill another buck, and I'm gonna try,
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: but I don't want to get too greedy, you know.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure? Cool man.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I hope you all find some success out there.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Thanks for the report, sir.
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Now I've got Alex comstock with wat tail DNA and
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: he has been hunting his home state of Minnesota. Alex,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: is it freezing there or what's it like?
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: You know, it's been a little too warm?
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we have we have no snow on
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: the ground, which a lot of.
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: Times we do by now, and highs are still. I
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: think it's gonna push fifty today.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: So not ideal man, that's uh, you know, relatively. I
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: don't know if I can understand, but I guess I
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: know what you mean in general, the fact that it's
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: warmer than what it needs to be.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: What are you doing right now? If you're used to,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: you know, those cold attempts to adjust for what.
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: The deer doing, hoping and praying.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: That's a good tactic, man, for sure. Are you Are
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: you struggling to see deer on the hoof right now?
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: It's super super sporadic.
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: I mean I haven't seen a lot of deer in
• 25:17
  Speaker 9: Minnesota this year in general, it's been a warm off fall.
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: But like.
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: You know, for example, a hunter this morning didn't see
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: a deer, had a spot where like a really good
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: buck came through on cell cam at eleven o'clock. That's
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: the first deer to hit that particular camera in.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I think a week.
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: So it's just like super sporadic, which makes things obviously
• 25:39
  Speaker 9: tougher on the hunter.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, if you adjusted your camera placements for
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: kind of this dead middle of the rud or you
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: still kind of have them all in the same place
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: they have been.
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: We're always shifting them, you know, and I'm bouncing back
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: and forth between you know, still a lot of cameras
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: are on scrapes because deer inevitably you're going to hit
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: them at some point, but hard you know, between that,
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: obviously your your classic fiddles or fiddels, funnels and points.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: You know, just trying to catch you.
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: For me, it's obviously like I'm not hutting the rut
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: trying to pattern into your own camera. I'm just trying
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: to get a picture of one knowing that he's in
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: the area per se.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So is the hot weather effect does it affect
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: deer movement during the rut do you feel like or
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: is it just gonna be what it's what it is normally.
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: I think my take on it is that it's it's
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: not going to do you any favors. How about that,
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: Like it's not like it's warm, so don't go hunting.
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: But I think yeah, I mean for us, like, you know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: we've had some days peeking up and pushing on the
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: sixties and you know, upper fifties, and I don't think
• 26:43
  Speaker 9: it's going to do you any favors for movement. I
• 26:44
  Speaker 9: still think deer at the end of the day are
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: running and doing their thing. But I think it could
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: encourage a little bit more nighttime movement.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Does water come into play during harder TIMPs in the rut?
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Do you think?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: And what if I had areas with water? You got
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: ten thousands? Man, come on, yeah, I.
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: Mean I could just go set up shop on the
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: edge of lakes period.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, you never know, I guess sounds cold, Yeah,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: That's funny. So this week you still have stagnant weather
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: coming up. What what adjustments are you going to make
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: to still try to capitalize with.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: The time you can get out?
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: Oh you cut out there.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Sorry this week, you still probably have some stagnant weather
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: coming up, you know, for the next week or whatever.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: How are you gonna capitalize on the sets that you
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: do get to go out?
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: Pretty much just gonna sit, you know, in the citts
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: that I do get to get out. I'm just right
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: now hunting historical stuff. So you know, I'm after a
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: few bucks that I'm hunted over the course the last
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: few years. So I put a lot of emphasis into
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: historical data. You know, I know a buck was in
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: an area over the given week. You know, there's a
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: there's an area that a couple of bucks hit a
• 27:57
  Speaker 9: lot last year over that Thanksgiving time frame in there,
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: So that's where I'm going to kind of be then.
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: So it's just kind of hunting based off that that
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: data that I've recrued over over the years.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Got you cool. So do you see historically mature books
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: on their feet this time of year? Like, do you
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: feel good about this, you know, kind of third week
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: in November time period?
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I I generally really this is I think one
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: of my more favorite weeks of the rut, given that
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: you know it's not going to be it's not what
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: everyone loves with the first week in November just deer
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: cruising like crazy. For me, it's more of the you
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: never know what could show up just be worth those
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: bucks are especially those mature year they're going for that
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: last that last few dos. And I I really enjoy
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: that time of the year because I'm used to not
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: having crazy hunts anyway, and seeing a time of year
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: and so with the thought of never know what could
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: walk around the corner is piques my interests pretty much.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very cool.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, So as we look forward to this next week
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: with the warmer Timpson all, just knowing that it's a good,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: good week for you historically, what are you going to
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: rank the buck movement on a scale of one to ten.
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: I am going to look at the weather right now,
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: and then we do have a cold front coming a
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: little bit on Wednesday.
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: High's Wednesday on or in the mid to low thirties.
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: So I like that, and just given that fact, I'm
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: gonna give it.
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: I want to be over a five, I.
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: Really do, So I'm gonna give it a five and
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: a half.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Nice very realistic numbers there, but that cold front sounds
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: pretty optimistic.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I hope that you run up on one of those
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: big ones.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, me too.
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: I you know, I was looking at footage actually the
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: other day from a buck that I'm hunting right now,
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: and I almost shot them two years ago on the
• 29:44
  Speaker 9: sixteenth of November, and we had like probably eight inches
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: of snow. So, I mean it's a big difference. But
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna I'm gonna hope and pray.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: An awesome brother, will. I hope you getting appreciate all
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: the report.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Man, All right, thanks guys.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: On the phone right now. I've got Josh Elderton.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: He's everybody's best friend and he's up there in West
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Virginia hanging out in the mountains.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: What's going on, maun Man?
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: Nothing nice, Kyler. What's happening, buddy? Oh?
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Shoot? Man?
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Just sitting here with k C and talking and thinking
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: about deer. You know, that's how November goes, right, That
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: is November.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: It's all about deer, all about just getting out there
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: and getting after.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: It for sure. Man.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: So you guys been getting after it lately in West Virginia.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: What you've been seeing out there, Well, it's.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: Been going really good. It's on like Donkey Kong here, Okay.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: It started to Friday and flip the switch.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, is that weather induced or was this something else?
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: I think it's weather and and you know, I'm a
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: moon guy, so I think it's weather and moon induced.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: And since Friday, the deer movement has been really good.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: That's good. Been good in the mornings and in the
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: evenings it's been and it's been a little sketchy in
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: the evening's probably the last thirty forty minutes of shooting,
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: like they've been moving a little bit, but the mornings
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: have been fire.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: I got you.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: So, how are you guys hunting them? What kind of
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: tactic are you using to get in their way?
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Right now? Our focus right now has really been glassing
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: and hunting these old open areas in between the thickets.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: We've hung a couple of times. If we found really
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: hot sign, if we find scrapes and stuff that's like
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: ground up coffee and happened just within a few hours,
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: we'll hang. But we're really focusing on the ground right
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: now and glassing and either putting them on to bed
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: and doing a true spot stalk, or most of the
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: time right now with the rut, we're playing a lot
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: of ambush.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like fun. So let's get back to
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: this moon thing. Because I'm a borderline moon believer. You know,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I'm a little bit of a skeptic, but at the
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: same time, I feel like there's sometimes some correlations. And
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: right now, you know, we're just kind of coming right
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: off of a big awful moon, right and so you
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: thought that that had an effect on the deer movement. Now,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: what are we going to look at as this thing
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: starts to wane and kind of move into like, you know,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: a half moon over the next week.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Is it Are we.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Gonna still see that uptick or is it gonna what effects.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Is it going to have?
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: I think I think that the first part of the week,
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be a little bit slower, but you know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: it's rut, they're gonna move. But there's an uptick in
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: deer movement towards the end of the week, in my opinion,
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: by what the moon chart says it's going to do.
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: Now, I'm telling you, I'm there.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: I've always just watched the moon chart, and it's like
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: when I'm out there Glass and Tyler that I won't
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: see any deer in like prime time from the moon chart.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Say it's nine to eleven am. And it just seems
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: like at nine or nine fifteen, I start seeing deer.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Guys, So so what what I mean, what's the food
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: source that you guys are out there hunting?
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: So food source wise, I mean it's a lot of brows,
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: a lot of sawbrars and c rps type stuff. But
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: you know that we've got hit with masks this year too,
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: We've got some acrons. But the deer out here, especially
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: in southern West Virginia, even with acrons, they still tend
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: to get out in the brows and the like. It's
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: like prairie country. These reclaim strip minds are they still
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: seem to get out there and that's where they like
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: to chase and crews. So that's that's really what we're
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: focused on. We're not focused on a lot of timber
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: hunting right now.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: So on that fresh sign that you're talking about earlier,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: are you finding that stuff on like little whips out
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: there in that open country? Are you seeing that stuff
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: along like the thicket lines where you're seeing rubs and
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: scrapes and stuff like that.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: The hard edges between right there on the timber and
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: the thicket is where you're finding it. Inside of the thickets.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: You know, these tickets, you can always find open areas
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: that you know, might only be twenty by twenty in
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: the Middle East thickets, but there might be one hundred
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: by one hundred in the middle of them. And inside
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: these tickets were seeing those hot scrapes and stuff too,
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: and getting in these tickets amongst them.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: So what do you what do you think will happen
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: next week? Is it going to still be on like
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Donkey Kong? Is it gonna be on like Eddy Kong?
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Now it's I think that you know, we were out Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: and we were on. This was last week, so around
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: like the twelfth, thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth, we were out
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: and there was a good movement in the mornings, like
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: I said, in the evenings were a little bit slow
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: and they were bumping and just kind of my cruise
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: and the small bucks. We're out there trying to get
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: a jump start on the big daddies. And then Friday,
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you, it was like a light switch. I mean,
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: you all experienced in anybody that's experienced, I mean, it
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: was just like a light switch offen Man. They was running, grunting,
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: snortweiz and fighting everything going on. And it's been like
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: that since Friday.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: Got you so on a scale of one to ten,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: and the next week, what do you think buck Movement's
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: going to be like.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Nine and a half?
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that's how I like that. I like that.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: I'm sitting in the office talking to you all and
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: we've got two groups out and both groups are on
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: Big Bucks this.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Morning, old baby.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: So I know that the deer movement's really good right
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: now and it's going to stay that way for several
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: days in my opinion.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well that's awesome, dude.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much for the report, and I
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: hope those guys get both them bucks killed.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Thanks for the time, Josh, alright though, thank you' all.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: Good luck you see