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Episode #49: Joel and Sina Get Personal During “Ask Me Anything” LIVE Session · Beyond Labels Premium

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  SPEAKER_02: And one of the problems is we don't appreciate the incremental steps of persuasion.
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  SPEAKER_02: If we're a one or a two, way up here, you know, I mean, we've been to this, we now know things, we encounter a ten or a nine, what is your problem?
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and we we want them to move to a two or a one overnight.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_02: Well, people don't do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: People make those moves incrementally, and I can tell you lots of stories of people, farmers, who had one little problem, you make one suggestion and it's positive, and then oh my goodness, what else can I do?
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_02: And they're ready to move to the next level, next level, next level.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_05: Several ways to do emotional detox.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_05: Basically, when I say emotional detox, what I mean is clearing out any stuck emotions.
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  SPEAKER_05: So there are many different techniques you could use to do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to another podcast from Beyond Labels with yours truly, Joel Salatin and Dr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Cena McCullough.
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  SPEAKER_02: Today we have a special treat.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're bringing a question and answer period that we had recently at the Two Days of Truth summit held at Polyface Farms.
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  SPEAKER_02: Before we get into that, let me assure you that the entire summit is now available for purchase.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and you can get this to get all the speakers, and we encourage you to share it with your friends as well to increase the reach of this.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's available in the uh in the links in the description box here.
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  SPEAKER_02: And without further ado, here we go live to the question and answer period at the two-day summit.
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome everyone to another podcast from Beyond Labels with your host, yours truly, Joel Salatin, the farmer, and Dr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Cena McCullough, the PhD scientist, researcher, guru for us all.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for joining us.
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  SPEAKER_02: We are uh here live, actually.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is a very unusual podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're here live uh at the Two Days of Truth conference, Shindig Gathering, uh, hosted here at Polyface Farm in Swope, Virginia, the center of the universe, in our agrarian bunker, uh, with with folks who have come for these two days in the um two days of truth uh conference.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you all for being here.
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  SPEAKER_05: And for any of you listening or watching at home and you feel like you might have missed out, don't worry.
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  SPEAKER_05: We have our editor and professional videographer, Nolan Gunn, who has been recording everything this weekend, and we're going to be offering that as an online version of this summit.
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  SPEAKER_05: The link to that summit version will be in the description box.
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  SPEAKER_02: Great.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so we've actually this is gonna be an unusual.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're just doing live, high-risk um uh questions answers, anything at all that anybody wants to ask for uh to us for these you know 15 or 20 minutes.
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  SPEAKER_02: So uh let's go to the first question.
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  SPEAKER_04: Hi, um I'm Gordon from South Carolina, and I wanted to ask um, I guess maybe Joel or Cena as well, but what would you think or could it be done to where a PMA could serve as an aggregator?
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so that's a that's a little bit of a technical question, but everything's on the table here.
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  SPEAKER_02: So a PMA, for those of you that don't know, uh is a personal membership association.
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  SPEAKER_02: And these are uh gradually becoming um a circumvention tool to the onerous compliance requirements in uh in food safety uh uh things, especially slaughtering.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh right now a lot of people don't realize that the um the the community, the small-scale um butcher slaughterhouse capacity is overrun in in this country.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh we call them slots.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you call and I I want I need six spots, I need you know seven spots, whatever, uh to get processed.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um the average wait time is often a year.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, think about that.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you uh a pig is normally processed at about eight months, so we're talking about um getting a processing date for an animal that you don't even have.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's really a glitch in the system, and and of course the small-scale uh processing facilities are being hammered by you know uh prejudicial, you know, uh uh bureaucrats, regulators in the system.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's a it's a real problem.
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  SPEAKER_02: You people want to, you know, got food security issues, people want to eat local food, and then you know, then you have these these these uh hurdles to be able to access the marketplace.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_02: And so there is a growing interest in what's called a personal membership association to completely circumvent inspections, circumvent the bureaucracy, circumvent the whole thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: There comes a time when circumvention is actually more efficacious than compliance.
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  SPEAKER_02: When compliance becomes so tyrannous, like it like it has now.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so these are modeled after the uh the country country club golf club kind of uh deals that are not public.
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  SPEAKER_02: In other words, if you want to go to the country club and play golf, you can't go, you gotta be a member.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, so they're non-public.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_02: And um and so um you know this this is absolutely an option for some people, and um, you know, I'm not gonna go into all the particulars, but it's it's being used around the country now by some people.
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  SPEAKER_02: The um the kind of the weak part of it is that if you go over about 200 members, it it begins attracting IRS audits and it becomes a red flag issue, okay, for regulators.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, uh for a for a pretty small outfit, of course, you know, you can have a PMA, your spouse can have a PMA, uh, you know, your child could have a PMA.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh so you know, you can fudge it some, but uh essentially your customers become uh members of voluntary members of an association that which to which they pay a fee which entitles them to privileges.
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  SPEAKER_02: In this case, it's not playing golf.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean you could put in a couple holes so they could if they wanted to, uh, but it in but but in this case it's to you know meat, pot pies, um, you know, quiche, uh, whatever it is you want to do, uh milk.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so uh so it's it's it is one, it it's uh uh another tool in the toolbox of onerous bureaucratic circumvention to open up the option of of direct uh producer-consumer um food food trade.
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  SPEAKER_02: Great question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hi, it's uh Scott from Utah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just wanted to first thank Dr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cena and Joel for putting on such a beautiful event for us lunatics to gather.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: And find community amongst the world that's flat out insane.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I have a tremendous amount of respect for the level of grace and humility with which you two are battling on these front lines.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was just wondering if you had any advice for those of us that are trying to pick up in arms to join the journey in order to remain uh humble uh with humility and grace of such a serious situation.
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  SPEAKER_05: Wow, that's a great question.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh you want to go first?
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_05: I'll let you start.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_05: I just finished talking for two minutes.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_05: You're gonna go back.
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  SPEAKER_05: So I guess the first question is how are we handling it with grace and humility so we can share with somebody else how they can handle it that way.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_05: So um, wonderful question, by the way, and thank you for those kind words.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_05: You know, the COVID journey for me has been deja vu of my journey into the food supply.
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  SPEAKER_05: So I many of you, if you if you've read our books or um, you know, my my book or my book with Joel and or listen to our podcast, you're probably aware that I did blindly trust the food supply, and it was devastating when I learned the truth.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um and I was so upset that, and this was this was stewing in me.
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  SPEAKER_05: It took me five years to write my first book, Hands Off My Food.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_05: And part of the reason was because I was sick during that time that I got pregnant and whatever, but a but a big part of it was because it took me so long to believe it.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_05: And that's um, I went down many rabbit holes because I thought that can't be true.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_05: No, I mean I found another reference.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_05: That can't be true either, and then I find it in the government's own words.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_05: Well, that can't be true.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_05: Let me let me check with the government accountability office to make sure that's you know, so it took me a long time because I didn't want to believe it.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_05: And then I got very angry once I realized it was true and that they had been um deceptive, doing backdoor deals, there was corruption, and sometimes just flat out lying to us.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_05: Um and I'm not talking about COVID, right?
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_05: I'm still talking about just the food supply, but you can already see some of the similarities.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_05: And then what really devastated me, the final straw, was I'm upstairs um researching for that book.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_05: My husband's downstairs with the kids, and I was um diving deeper into recombinant bovine growth hormone, right?
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_05: You all familiar with RBGH, right?
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_05: Which is still in our milk supply today, I might add.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_05: Um so I read something that totally floored me, and it was that for eight years, the FDA allowed this experimental milk, like it was this milk that was being produced with these cat from these calves that were injected with recombinant bovine growth hormone, it was still considered experimental at that time.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_05: And the FDA allowed the company to sell that milk in our supermarkets without a label.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_05: And I thought that can't be true.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_05: They're supposed to be protecting the safety of our food.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_05: So I contacted the government accountability office and found the document where they said they verified that's what the FDA actually did for eight years.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_05: Many of us drank that milk, not knowing.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_05: And the government accountability office went on record to state that they were opposed to the FDA's stance that the human, basically the citizens of the United States, can be part of an experimental trial.
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  SPEAKER_05: So the FDA does still to this day take the stance that when there's an experimental food product, or that was an experimental drug put into an animal that produced the food for us, that it's okay for them to experiment on us without our consent, without our knowledge.
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  SPEAKER_05: So I found that out, come downstairs, just storming down the stairs, right?
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_05: Just go to my husband.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, oh, I can't believe it, you won't believe run, just run.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_05: And for him, he's like, What?
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  SPEAKER_05: It's all the same.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_05: Like it's just more corruption.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_05: Why are you so upset?
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm just going, you know, blowing my top, right?
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_05: Which uh, and so he looks me straight in the eye and he goes, This is this is all the same.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_05: You've heard this all before.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_05: Why are you so upset right now?
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_05: And I just looked him in the eye and I said, Because they made me sick.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_05: And that's honestly how I felt.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_05: And my husband, you know, my opened my heart, right?
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_05: That was sitting in me for years, and my husband looked me in the eye, straight face, and he said, No, they did not.
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  SPEAKER_05: You made yourself sick because you didn't know you were an uninformed consumer.
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  SPEAKER_05: That hit my heart.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_05: Needless to say, I walked away, stormed off, and you just don't understand because you're not sick! Like so I went upstairs by myself and I prayed about it, and I said, just show me the truth.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_05: I can take it.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_05: Whatever you need me to see, show it to me.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_05: And that's when he told me, This is your responsibility, but I can help you out of it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Hand it to me.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_05: So I did.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_05: I handed all the anger, all that frustration, all the feeling of betrayal.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_05: I handed it all over to God, and He took it.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_05: And that was the moment the entire course of that book changed.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_05: I went through and rewrote most of it because I no longer wrote it from a victim standpoint, I wrote it from a thriver standpoint.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_05: And it became about solutions.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_05: So I carried that mentality with me ever since.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_05: It changed my entire perception of not only the FDA, the USDA, EPA, but of life itself.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_05: It taught me to take responsibility, and that was a little scary, right?
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_05: But with responsibility comes power.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_05: That's when I stepped into my power and was convicted that I could make a difference.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_05: If not in the world, but I can make a difference in my life and in my children's life.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_05: So that's how I approached COVID: was that I can't control what they do, and I can only control what I do, how I react to things, the information I share with my family.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_05: And I can just be a beacon of hope and of light and trust that God will connect me with the other people that are like-minded.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_05: And he has.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_05: Look, we're all here.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_02: So the beauty of being able to go second is you have a little more time to think about it.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_02: So I've I've got a I've got a couple little things that I I can get through pretty quick, I think, to help you to how to interact with whatever, the crazies or the naysayers, or whatever you want to call.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um one of my one of my uh you know epiphanies moments was um I was asked to down go down to Richmond and testify on a um on a food choice bill.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_02: We were um I think this was an effort of Virginia Independent Consumer Farmers Association, VICFA.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: You can see the shirt right here.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and uh it was an early effort to try to get some more, you know, more freedoms for for um for being able to sell highly regulated foods like milk and beef and pork and things.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_02: And um, so I testified before the the Senate committee and the the head of meat and poultry inspection in Virginia pulled me aside after we had a break.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_02: And so, you know, kind of mingling around there in the hearing room, he pulls me aside, he said, he said, Joel, you don't understand.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_02: He said, if we gave people food choice where people could actually choose where to buy their food, we couldn't build hospitals fast enough for all of the sick people that would get tainted food, dirty food from farmers.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: And light went on.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_02: I said, you know, this guy, this guy actually, I mean, I couldn't disagree more, but he has good intentions.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_02: And so the thing I want to start with is don't ever assume the person that you're dealing with has bad intentions.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're you okay, you can disagree?
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  SPEAKER_02: Assume they have good intentions.
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  SPEAKER_02: Assume they aren't evil intended.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because as soon as you assume evil intention, you can't have a conversation.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_02: Assume they mean the best.
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  SPEAKER_02: And they're they're trying sincerely to do the best, and you get a lot farther in your discussion.
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  SPEAKER_02: Number one.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_02: Number two is in persuasion.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_02: If you have a scale of one to ten, and in food, we'd say um a ten is a person that you know gets all their food out of the gas station, and a one is a person that you know has a food mill in their kitchen and mung bean sprout jars on the windowsill, right?
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: And a herd share for raw milk.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_02: And um that's a one.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_02: And one of the problems is we don't appreciate the incremental steps of persuasion.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_02: If we're a one or a two, way up here, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we've been to this, we now know things.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_02: We encounter a ten or a nine, what is your problem?
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and we we want them to move to a two or a one overnight.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_02: Well, people don't do that.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_02: People make those moves incrementally, and I can tell you lots of stories of people, farmers, who had one little problem, you make one suggestion, and it's positive, and then oh my goodness, what else can I do?
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: And they're ready to move to the next level, next level, next level.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: So just appreciate persuasion.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_02: Part of the diplomacy of persuasion is it's incremental.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's it's one step at a time.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_02: And the final one, my dad uh used to always say, he said, uh, you can't you can't push on a string.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_02: You got to pull on a string.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: And um, this came after uh an evening went down to a neighbor's and told him that one day, this was early on, one one day we'd have a hundred cows on this farm.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: The neighbor just laughed him to scorn.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: Dad was a pretty emotional, uh, he had a pretty tender, tender heart, and and he, I remember him coming home and being uh just just really torn up about this neighbor laughing, laughed at me.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: He said, I'll never tell somebody else what I'm going to do.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna do it and pull on the string and lead by example.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_02: And that's a good one too.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_02: Just don't go around and oh, well, I'm gonna do this and we're gonna do that, we're gonna do the other.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_02: Do it.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_02: Do it and pull on that string and lead by example.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_03: All right, I'm Andy from Oldwell, Virginia, and I've got an easy question for Sina.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_03: What's with the mason jars?
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, so for those of you listening to the podcast, this whole summit I've been walking around with my mason jar, my glass mason jar filled with water.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_05: And it was kind of a funny story because I'm not I'm not from the South, right?
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_05: I'm from California.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_05: So when I moved here, I just started walking around with my mason jar filled with water, and people gave me the strangest looks.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_05: And finally somebody said to me, What are you walking around with your moonshine?
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_05: And I go home and ask my husband, who's from the South.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_05: I said, What's moonshining?
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I didn't even know.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_05: So, yeah, this is my water.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and usually what I do is um I pour my water into these glass jars that have etchings on them of um of gratitude.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_05: So my jar will say something like love or grateful or I love you, or you know, hug me.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_05: Like, you know.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_02: This was the self-sealing.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, this is just a regular mason jar.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's apparently a statement of gratitude, too.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_05: It is, I am self-sufficient, so I could seal things.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_05: No, so that so usually that's what I have is these glass jars with things etched on them to help structure my water, because that's my belief, that my intention goes there.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_05: This is um, because I don't want to drink out of plastic or the paper cups, so I did bring many of these actually with my water from my deep well from home.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_05: I when I'm here on the farm, I'll drink the water, but when I'm at the hotel, I drink my water that I brought.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna take some for the from the couch rough to go home and have my kids and my husband try it.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's great.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_02: All right, we I think we have time for two more quick ones.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, um, Katie from North Carolina.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_06: Hi.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_06: Hi.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_06: And I was just wondering, as most people here, we're awake, right?
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_06: Um, my question is do you guys have any tips or anything for like the things we cannot control?
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_06: Like we are like we already do in our garden and getting our animals and but we cannot control the chemtrails, right?
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_06: We cannot control what's sprayed on us.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_06: Do you guys have any ideas for like, I don't know, protocols or for cleaning your water or your fear?
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_06: Because you see that stuff coming and you're like, uh, that's going to my plants.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_06: So that was the question.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I I I would, yeah, that's a that's a difficult question.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, obviously, there are things that you can't control.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: So, my, you know, um, from from a production ecology standpoint, um the best thing I know is organic matter.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_02: Compost and organ organic matter is like nature's, you know, alka seltzer, bufferin, detoxicant, all combined in into one thing.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_02: My favorite example is the Lufki farm in Austria when Chernobyl blew, the nuclear, the the radioactive cloud came over and fell down in all that, all that uh truck, truck gardening, vegetable production area of Austria, and all the plants got radioactive and they had to destroy them.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: There was only one farm, but there was no radioactivity in the soil, and it was the Lufkis who had used compost for 20 years and had built up their organic matter so high that it it it protected it protected the the soil.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: So um one of the best things you can do is for yourself in your own garden, your own household, you see the chemtrails, your neighbors are spraying glyphosate or whatever.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: The best thing you can do uh is Is is get your organic matter way up through compost, and then you can elevate your beds, your garden beds, elevate your beds above above terrain level.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: So get them up a foot, two feet so that the plant roots aren't going down clear into the soil, and um and you can give yourself a little bit of a protection that way.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_05: I love that.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_05: Great advice.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_05: And so what I do since I don't have a farm, but at our house, what I do is some of the key things I do, I do have a whole house water filtration system, even though I have a deep well.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_05: So that goes through all our water in our whole house, and it goes to the water that we um water our garden with and the water for our pool.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_05: So everything does go through that filter.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_05: Um I also consume herbs on a regular basis, as you know from the cooking demonstration.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_05: Lots of scientific um literature backing up the power of herbs, not only to pull metals out of the body, right?
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_05: Some of them specifically can do that, and other toxins, but to lower the overall um level of inflammation that can result from exposure to these toxins.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_05: I also, one of my top thing that I recommend for people is to emotionally detox.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_05: Right?
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_05: When you're emotionally detox and you move that energy through your body, that's gonna have one of the most profound effects you can you can create.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_05: Um in terms of protecting yourself from all types of toxins, including chemtrails.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_05: So that's my number one go-to alongside with um prayer.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_05: So I will say um prayers for our family for protection every day.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so every night before we go to bed, and then every meal, we we pray in our own unique way, you know, with expressing gratitude.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_05: We all go around the table, express gratitude, raise that elevated emotional state, and we pray for him to protect us and protect the food and proactively pray.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_05: So we don't say more from a victim mentality of can you please help us protect us?
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_05: We'll say, Thank you, God, for protecting.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: You don't pray, uh you don't pray, let the chemtrail planes crash.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I don't do that because that's focusing on the negative, right?
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_05: Like, no, I just focus on the positive and we will say a um a prayer, like in the moment, like, thank you, God, for protecting this food and for allowing it to be nourishing and for it to give our body everything that we need to thrive.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_05: So, as though it already happened, and the body will respond accordingly, and it will help you increase the nutrients absorbed from that meal as well, because it puts you in um a better state in terms of your nervous system.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_05: It helps calm you out of um fire fight.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_02: Great, thanks.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_02: One one more question.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_02: So, can you just the emotional detox when you summarize on this?
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_02: What does that mean?
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_06: They're asking for a summary of the emotional detox.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, so what emotional detox mean?
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_05: So we could do an entire series on this.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_05: Like we can do a whole two-day summit on this alone.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I mean, gosh, is that interesting to anybody how to do emotional detox?
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_05: Would that be a topic you'd want for next year?
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_05: Emotional detox?
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so um several ways to do emotional detox.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_05: Basically, when I say emotional detox, what I mean is clearing out any stuck emotions.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_05: So there are many different um techniques you can use to do that.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_05: Um you can use prayer, uh, you can use the tuning forks, you know, that Eileen mentioned, you can use energy medicine in terms of your hands healing, that's more, you know, the biblical approach that um Michelle mentioned earlier.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_05: Um there's all kinds of techniques that you can use.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_05: I will do a combination of things depending on how stuck the emotion is, what the root cause of it was, like what type of trauma.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_05: If it was a huge trauma in my life, like some childhood trauma, there's many things I'll end up doing, like journaling, talking it out, speaking to the person in my mind, you know, um, whatever I need to do to come to a place of forgiveness so that I can release that emotion.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_05: And um I've noticed that in the times, you know, like we were talking about in our talk with being able to complete the nervous system cycle.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_05: When I can do activities like mountain biking that do complete that nervous system cycle for me and bring me back into a parasympathetic state, that's when I have more clarity and I have a better ability to clear an emotion.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_05: It's really difficult to clear emotion when you're in the sympathetic state.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_05: So I would suggest if you want to try to practice clearing them, like through forgiveness or whatnot, to do something that gets you into the parasympathetic state first and then try to release it.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_05: It'll be much easier.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_02: The only thing I would add to that is that's the power of mission.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: And so many times, you know, look, we're hardwired, we're hardwired to remember the negative.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's what we call them stop lights, not go lights, right?
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody comes home from town and says, hey, I hit five go lights today.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we we we know we remember what stops us, not what makes us go.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_02: And that's the power of vision and mission statements.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_02: So if you if you take that uh frustration and move it to what what I want to do, what makes me go, um, that moves us into a after the forgiveness.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, forgiveness is right on top.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but then that puts us in a positive frame of reference rather than just being frustrated about the things that I can't change.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:33
  unknown: Yeah.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: All right, last question.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, Ricky from North Carolina.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh hi Ricky.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, uh something I've noticed, and maybe you have too over the last few years, that you know, people of influence have spread a certain idea that goes out across mainstream and all kinds of all kinds of people buy off on it.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the next thing I'm seeing is the attack on the meteor and pushing these plant-based meats and saying it's a healthier alternative.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, me logically thinking, I'm thinking, okay, that's gonna take up astroland to monoculture grow a one single set of vegetables, it's gonna be straight with chemicals.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: It has to go through an extensive refinement process that's not any better for the environment than anything else.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yet tons of people are gonna jump on the bandwagon because Bill Gates is saying, hey, we're gonna grow your burgers.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: Has there been any research to like negate that?
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: Has there already been prepared preparations to fight that notion?
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, uh there is a host of material now.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, from you know, there are now new numerous books, you know, The Sacred Sacred Cow by um um yes.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um we've got uh Nicolette Nymond, uh who wrote the the sacred beef or whatever it is.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_02: Uh anyway, uh th I'm I'm just you know off the top of my head I can't think of all these books, but there there are now um I mean one of the early ones was uh Lair Keith with the Vegetarian Myth.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um uh uh Meet a Benign Extravaganza by um Simone Fairley.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_02: I mean there's uh there's a British book.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um there's a tremendous amount of research now, uh not only going into the nutrition um but also the ecological uh advantage of I mean of especially the cow.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um and and you know when people say, oh yeah, these cows are inefficient, uh say, yeah, that's why they build soil.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: If everything was as efficient as a squash and a cucumber, we wouldn't have any soil.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_02: So um, you know, so it's the it's the ability of the animal to take sunlight in real time and turn it into something nutritious.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_02: You and I can't eat, you know, cellulose, but an herbivore can.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_02: And um, and of course, chickens, you know, historically they they ate everything that spoiled and was you know rotten and and uh and and peelings and uh byproducts.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_02: So um so animals, you know, we don't have enough time to go into all that.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_02: We probably should do a podcast on that as well.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_02: But um, but yes, there is a lot of um research and development coming on on defending uh defending the the meat component of authentic meat in the diet.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and in terms of the ingredients in these alternative meat, fake meat products, we wrote about that in Vyon Labels, right?
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_05: There's a tip on that where we expose the fact that one of the ingredients in the impossible burger, right, the main ingredient that's supposed that was genetically engineered and it's supposed to make it taste like meat, that that ingredient is actually grass.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's a yeah, yeah, and and not only that, but I don't know if you're aware that in the last uh what two two or three weeks.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, does anybody know what I mean by grass?
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_05: Like not the actual grass on the ground?
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_05: Not not green grass, generally recognized as safe.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_05: Generally recognized as safe, yeah, not greengrass.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because I saw people laughing and I was like, wait a minute, they may think I'm talking about greengrass.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_05: Like it's shoved greengrass in there.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_05: What I mean is that it's generally recognized as safe by the government.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_02: So it wasn't really tested.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_02: And and so what's um in the last two or three weeks you may not know that there's now a lawsuit uh against I think it's I think it's beyond beef, not impossible burger, but it's one of the I think it's beyond beef.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um where their labels, there they've now found their labels are are significantly off, significantly off on protein content.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_02: Whereas when you buy it and it has your you know your nutrition label and the the labels are way off.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_02: So there's now there's now been filed a lawsuit in federal court against them for um for essentially well for for for for not for not having an accurate label.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna say lying.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe they all were well intended and it was just a mistake, I don't know.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um but but but at least for for the for the for the product not being what's in the label.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot going on, and this is a this is a hot topic and one that we'll continue to to delve into in the future.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for being with us for this uh um podcast of Beyond Labels, and we look forward to seeing you next week on Beyond Labels.
• 32:41
  unknown: Thank you so much.