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169. [Georgia] The Murder of Genai Coleman · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome plus this message true come podcast. I
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  Speaker 1: don't care who is to say Stu.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, all right, we are back.
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  Speaker 1: We are having a tiff.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, so and disagreement.
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  Speaker 1: If you agreement, if you will so we'll see if
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  Speaker 1: we can recover during this podcast. Anyways, we are back.
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  Speaker 1: We took Christmas off. We are We will be here
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  Speaker 1: this week. We'll have a Shoot the Pooh on Friday,
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  Speaker 1: which will recap our Christmas time off.
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  Speaker 2: Sry two Christmas days.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, me almost hurting myself getting your present?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there was that.
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  Speaker 1: How Sam's Club screw me over? Amight I allowed to
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  Speaker 1: say that's too?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you can say.
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  Speaker 1: That Sam's Club screwed me over?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Anyways, we were supposed to. I'm just gonna might go.
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  Speaker 1: Then we're not gonna go.
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  Speaker 2: You don't think they're gonna get back to us.
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  Speaker 1: No, you said you didn't want to go. You said
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  Speaker 1: you wouldn't go anymore because you don't trust them out there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't trust them. They probably got some clause about
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  Speaker 2: the damage to your car is your own responsibility, and
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna come up to damage our car.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Anyways, we're supposed to go to these domes, base
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  Speaker 1: camp domes. It's called base Camp Terra Lingua, ter Lingua
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. They this company that has these domes, has
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  Speaker 1: these tents, has these things that you can rent. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we rented one to go. January of twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: I found out that I had That was when I
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  Speaker 1: was pregnant with the last baby. I had a whole
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  Speaker 1: situation with my doctor. I had to switch in my
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  Speaker 1: the end. It was like a whole ord dem Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: I had some medical complications that they were nervous about
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  Speaker 1: me going into like pre term labor. Suddenly this happened,
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  Speaker 1: so we had to cancel our stay. Well, they were
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  Speaker 1: very nice, they worked with us. We were in the
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  Speaker 1: we were right at fifteen days, and if it was
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  Speaker 1: fifteen days or less then you either had to forfeit
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  Speaker 1: half or they would give you a credit to use later.
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  Speaker 2: So we didn't even get a full credit for canceling
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  Speaker 2: within fifteen days.
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  Speaker 1: No, we got a full credit. We would have got
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  Speaker 1: a prefund. We would have got half of the re
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  Speaker 1: half of it matter how many days. No, if it
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  Speaker 1: was over fifteen days, we were at fifteen days. It
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  Speaker 1: was real sketchy. The limit the time was very interpretation,
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  Speaker 1: but whatever. We were like, fine, we wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: do these things where you go stay in these domes
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  Speaker 1: there you could see the stars. It's out by big Pin.
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  Speaker 1: Very excited about it. I was like, I saw email him.
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  Speaker 1: I said, oh, I said, I'm about to have a baby.
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  Speaker 1: I said, so it's me a while because we can't
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  Speaker 1: bring newborn. The manager was very nice, she was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's fine these the house credit does not expire. This
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  Speaker 1: is important people. The house credits not expire. So we
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  Speaker 1: go a few months. I contacted me in I said,
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  Speaker 1: I said, I just want to double check everything's still
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  Speaker 1: good and we can schedules because we wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: in the winter time because it gets too hot in
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  Speaker 1: the summer for the children in the domes.
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  Speaker 2: Is what i'd read oven.
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  Speaker 1: So here we are. I contacted them earlier this year,
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  Speaker 1: booked this for January. Everything was good. They put us
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  Speaker 1: in the same one. They have different ones, so they
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  Speaker 1: have the Deluxe Bubbles, which is a four has four
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  Speaker 1: walls around it, real big area. I paid extra for
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  Speaker 1: the four walled thing that's bigger, so that our children
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  Speaker 1: could play without us having to be stressed out about them,
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  Speaker 1: like wandering off outside of their area or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you let them outside and everything is wald.
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  Speaker 1: Everything's wald.
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  Speaker 2: Coming.
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  Speaker 1: There is a hot tub there, but it's one of
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  Speaker 1: those like ones that's above so you has a cover
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  Speaker 1: and stuff, so we wouldn't have to worry about what
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  Speaker 1: about them, like drowning or anything that it could be
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  Speaker 1: relaxing while we're out there because it's kind of like glamping.
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  Speaker 1: So they book us in one of those. They tell
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  Speaker 1: me the name of the thing. They say, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: one of the X ones. It's not X four because
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  Speaker 1: it didn't have a hot tub. Although we didn't really
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  Speaker 1: care about the hot tub because we probably weren't going
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  Speaker 1: to use it anyways.
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  Speaker 2: Well as a bunch of other people are probably in there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so oh god knows what anyway, So we that
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  Speaker 1: was fine. It's been booked for months and months and
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  Speaker 1: months now to go this next coming week. Just the
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  Speaker 1: other day they email me and they say one of
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  Speaker 1: the bubbles has my bubble specifically has suffered severe wind
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  Speaker 1: damage and they can't get the parts from France in
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  Speaker 1: time to fix it for our stay, so they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to cancel.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's where they came from.
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  Speaker 1: That's where they said that they had to get the parts,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna have to cancel our stay, and they said
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  Speaker 1: they would they would let us know if they could
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  Speaker 1: rebook us in a different thing. So shortly after she
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  Speaker 1: sends a confirmation and says, this is the only option
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  Speaker 1: we have. Please let me know if you would like
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  Speaker 1: to cancel, and she books me in this saying it
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  Speaker 1: is a very nice like house type thing. But the
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  Speaker 1: problem was it has an open pool with no fencing
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  Speaker 1: or anything around it. Two, the pool's not heated, so
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  Speaker 1: it's like if we were there, there's like the kids
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  Speaker 1: can't use it anyways. But also it's took away the
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  Speaker 1: entire the whole point of me booking that specific one
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  Speaker 1: and paying that the certain amount of money that I
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  Speaker 1: did was to.
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  Speaker 2: Get that one without and pe and not have your children.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, not have them run falling off into a pool,
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  Speaker 1: because it's just stressful and stuff with that. So I said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna have to cancel if this is the only option.
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  Speaker 1: I say, because I have small children, I can't have
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  Speaker 1: this like open pool. So she never responds to me
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  Speaker 1: or anything with that. Mind you, my original credit was
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  Speaker 1: for fifteen hundred dollars the one that they booked us in,
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  Speaker 1: the deluxe one. I guess the prices had dropped. They
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  Speaker 1: were it was only going to be twelve hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 1: So I was just gonna lose out on three hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. And they weren't. They weren't saying thing about that.
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  Speaker 1: They were just letting me eat it, eat it. So
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  Speaker 1: but at that point, I'm like, Okay, it's fine whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Because we're bucking more days for less money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know what's going on there. It
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  Speaker 1: was real sketchy. I found it a little bit sketchy,
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  Speaker 1: but whatever. Anyways, So then she I call. I never
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  Speaker 1: hear back from her, and I'm like, this is like
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  Speaker 1: coming up. I have we have a pet sitter book.
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  Speaker 1: So I had to cancel it and everything with that.
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  Speaker 1: So I call up the thing. Well, the lady that
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  Speaker 1: I talked on the phone knew nothing about any bubbles
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  Speaker 1: being damaged due to the wind. I found that suspicious.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't know. I said, well, are there other bubbles
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  Speaker 1: we can stay in? I said, because I said, the
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  Speaker 1: whole point was staying in these bubbles out there, and
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  Speaker 1: I said, we can't stay in the pool she's like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's bubbles available and everything. Like she was like, completely
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  Speaker 1: different story than the what I was receiving an email.
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  Speaker 2: So she said, well, all without the closing thing are
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  Speaker 2: considered bubbles too, though, aren't they.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the one lady said that my only option
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  Speaker 1: was that house. She said, there is no other option.
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  Speaker 1: And in the email, she said, you can cancel. This
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  Speaker 1: is a long story, guys. This is I would say,
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  Speaker 1: this is for shoot the Pooh, but I need to
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  Speaker 1: get my I need to get my story out there
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  Speaker 1: so you can make an informed decision about whether you
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  Speaker 1: would like to deal with these people. So so I
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  Speaker 1: told the I said, okay, she said, well, we have
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  Speaker 1: to do everything via email. So she said, just email
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  Speaker 1: the lady back, tell her you'd like a bubble and everything.
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  Speaker 1: And so I emailed back and I said I still
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  Speaker 1: hadn't heard from her the next day, and I said,
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  Speaker 1: So I emailed back and I said, Hi, can you
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  Speaker 1: please update? I said, because I have, like we got
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  Speaker 1: to cancel the pet sitter or I'm gonna get charged
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  Speaker 1: for that of it up and everything, and so she said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're trying to work things out. I'll get back with
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  Speaker 1: you later. Today she gets back, She cancels my house
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  Speaker 1: thing that she booked with the pool she rebooked, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: even ask me or anything, doesn't even talk to me.
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  Speaker 1: She said, the whole point was that it was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to discuss options. She books me in a new bubble. Well,
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  Speaker 1: now this one is only nine hundred dollars, So now
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  Speaker 1: I'm losing out on six hundred dollars of my original
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  Speaker 1: credit at the place. And so I'm like, why is
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  Speaker 1: this one nine hundred dollars and my other one was
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  Speaker 1: twelve hundred that they rebooked me at. Why is this
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  Speaker 1: someone so much cheaper? So I start looking at the website,
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  Speaker 1: Well cause it's like, it's not a deluxe bubble. It's
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  Speaker 1: a bubble that's within nine other bubbles. It's open on
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  Speaker 1: the front completely, so it's got a small area where
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  Speaker 1: your bubble is. It's open on the front completely to
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  Speaker 1: the outside world. Right around the corner is a pool
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  Speaker 1: with no fence or anything. So then I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, why I said, Well, I said, and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even say canceled. We were just gonna make do
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  Speaker 1: with that one or whatever. But what I saw I
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  Speaker 1: emailed back and I said, I said, I was in
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  Speaker 1: a deluxe bubble originally. I said, this one is six
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  Speaker 1: hundred dollars cheap, like less than my house credit. I said,
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  Speaker 1: can I get a refund on the difference or like
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  Speaker 1: what happens with that? Because this is not what I
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  Speaker 1: originally booked and it's not as nice as the one
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  Speaker 1: I originally booked. Well, the lady at the front desk,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, was so there's two people I think I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking to. I think there's like a like a Catherine
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  Speaker 1: who is like a supervisor, and then there's just the
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  Speaker 1: lady who's working the front desk. Shut up still. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: she starts emailing back. She said, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: she just said, well, uh, we're canceling your reservation and everything.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I never even asked to cancel it.
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  Speaker 1: I said, what, like, I think I think it's well
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  Speaker 1: within my reason to say what about the other six
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  Speaker 1: hundred dollars, Like you can't just make it magically like
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  Speaker 1: like what's happening? So anyways, so she starts eaming back.
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  Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean you're canceling? And I said,
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  Speaker 1: I never asked to cancel it. I said, I just
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  Speaker 1: want to understand, like what if you're canceling, how do
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  Speaker 1: I get a refund? Like what happens to this? Like
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  Speaker 1: you can't just cancel it and not give me anything
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: and everything. So she goes back and forth. She just
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  Speaker 1: keeps she said, I said, I'm staying. I said, I
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: was booked in a in a in a like a
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  Speaker 1: area that's not as nice as the one I originally
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  Speaker 1: paid for and everything, And I said, I booked it
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  Speaker 1: for certain reasons because we have all these children. There's
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  Speaker 1: a small you have to those are things we pay
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  Speaker 1: extra to have to have, like four walls. I'd love
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  Speaker 1: to be paid less money m m and not have
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  Speaker 1: them drin, but here we are. So anyways, so she's like,
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  Speaker 1: you weren't she said, uh, that's this is also I
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  Speaker 1: have questions about whether the bubble I was saying it
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  Speaker 1: was actually damaged, because I already talked to the lady
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  Speaker 1: on the phone that had no clue about the wind damage. Two,
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  Speaker 1: this is I think one of the ladies at the
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  Speaker 1: front desk that's maybe not the supervisor, responding back. And
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: she's not signing her name, she's just signing reservations anyway.
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  Speaker 1: And she's real snippy and everything. She said, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. You were never booked in
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  Speaker 1: a X bubble, which that's what they call them. She
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  Speaker 1: said you were, or she said, none of those have
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  Speaker 1: been damaged. You would have never been contacted. And I said,
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: I have an email. So I go back and look
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  Speaker 1: at my email. I have the email that says I
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  Speaker 1: was booked originally in September, like the one that they
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  Speaker 1: rebooked after not there, like the original ones, the one
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  Speaker 1: I was booked in an X and this one that
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: they rebooked me, I was booked in an X that
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: they canceled, saying it was damaged by the bulb. So
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I said, I said, I am booked in
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  Speaker 1: an EX and so she again just responded she didn't.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't respond to me saying I was booked in
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  Speaker 1: an X. I have an email saying I was booked
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  Speaker 1: in an X. It wasn't X four because it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have a hot time like I had specifics, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And so she just ignored that. She's like, we're canceling
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  Speaker 1: a reservation and you forfeit your house credit. I'm like, bitch, what.
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  Speaker 1: So I start trying to call them. They don't answer
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  Speaker 1: their phone. Finally, I said, I said, this is not right.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, so you're just gonna take I said,
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  Speaker 1: I have an email stating that the house credit does
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  Speaker 1: not expire. I said, you never worked with me on
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: any type of options or date. I even offered to
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: move dates, like I said, can we move dates like
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: things like that. They never responded me. They just wanted
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: to stick me in whatever they could at the time
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  Speaker 1: to get me, get me out of the.
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  Speaker 2: Way or whatever, and they'll rEFInd on any part of
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  Speaker 2: the credit.
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  Speaker 1: No, And so I said, they could have even said, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we'll keep the extra six hundred dollars open and I
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  Speaker 1: could have let like my brother or somebody use it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, or something like that. Yeah, they were basically
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  Speaker 1: I was just gonna lose whatever difference it was and
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  Speaker 1: they didn't care. So anyways. So then so now they've
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: just finally the original emails back this big long thing.
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  Speaker 1: She told me that I didn't pay extra for privacy,
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  Speaker 1: that that's not something that they charge extra for. Bitch,
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: am I allowed to say, bitch story, Sure, bitch, that
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  Speaker 1: is exactly how it all works. The bubbles that are
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  Speaker 1: in this stack of nine that have open on one end,
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  Speaker 1: are smaller, are cheaper than the ones that you pay
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  Speaker 1: for four walls around that are called deluxe bubbles. The
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  Speaker 1: other ones are just bubbles, and then there's deluxe bubbles.
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  Speaker 1: If you go to the website right now, the deluxe
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  Speaker 1: bubbles cost more than the regular bubbles. Okay, and there's
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  Speaker 1: a reason if you look at the pictures, like I
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  Speaker 1: feel like they're just.
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  Speaker 2: Like, hey, you can walk around your your courtyard necket
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  Speaker 2: if you want to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just like gaslight me. They're saying like you
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  Speaker 1: don't like you don't pay extra for privacy here or
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: something like that, like what the like? They literally just
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: saying things to me. And so basically she said, my
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  Speaker 1: house credit's gone. They canceled my reservation. So I'm just
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  Speaker 1: out fifteen hundred dollars and they won't respond to me anymore.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: So I tell you this story that is long. If
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  Speaker 1: you were thinking about staying, I would I would second
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: guests staying.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, especially if you have something come up, yes, well,
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  Speaker 2: or at least get you some travel insurance. Well, I mean,
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: the thing you're not going to get out of these people.
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  Speaker 1: The thing was is I never had thought that there
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  Speaker 1: would be any issue. They were very nice the first time.
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  Speaker 1: Whoever worked there at the time was super nice, and
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, you had a medical emergency. We
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  Speaker 1: completely understand. And she even wrote a email because I
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  Speaker 1: was worried about She's like, oh, you have a newborn,
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  Speaker 1: Just email back whenever you're ready to stay. It's no
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  Speaker 1: big deal. It does not expire. And I have that
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  Speaker 1: in an email scene. It does not expire. And the
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  Speaker 1: thing was is I was never offered to adjust the dates,
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: because we could have gone a couple days later or
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: something like that. We could have worked it out to
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  Speaker 1: come different dates, but she said that. She said that
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't accept any options they gave me or work
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  Speaker 1: with them. They never tried to work with me. She
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: claimed in the email she tried to change the dates,
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  Speaker 1: and that's not true. I have everything they do is
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  Speaker 1: through email correspondence, and she never once offered me different
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  Speaker 1: dates at all. She basically I said what So when
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: I responded back, I said, you guys told me where
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  Speaker 1: I was going to have to stay, and you expected
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  Speaker 1: me just to accept it without any if I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: And then even in the email, they said, if you
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  Speaker 1: would like to cancel. Please let me know. It didn't
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  Speaker 1: say if you would like to cancel, you forfeit your
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  Speaker 1: entire house credits. Please let us, please let us know.
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  Speaker 1: To me, it's like, okay, they rebooked me in something
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna work. I said, okay, we can cancel,
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: and then she said, I have a different option for you.
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  Speaker 1: She somehow maracously found a different option for me, though
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  Speaker 1: when she said there was zero other options, finds one.
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  Speaker 1: I just asked about the six hundred dollars difference, and
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  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, I'm public enemy number one.
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  Speaker 1: Like I've just never experienced anything with that where I've
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  Speaker 1: just they're just like, yeah, you just lose six hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you don't like that, we're gonna take all fifty.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just gonna take all. You're canceled. We're done,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: so we're not going now. We don't feel at this point,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: it's like it's almost that we don't feel comfortable because
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: they are just like bubbles, like uh, latex bubbles and
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: stuff that I mean, we would feel uncomfortable. I don't.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: It's a very isolated place, so the people out there
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: are like a small group that runs that. So even
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: at this point, it's like we wouldn't even feel comfortable
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: staying there with the children in case somebody want to
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: be to these people, it's crazy, especially whoever there Karen
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: was at the reservation dusk. That was email me. Yes,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: So it's called base Camp tari Lingua, Terlingua. They're the
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: dome Bubbles. They have other facilities too. I would just
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: caution you before you proceed, because that is my story.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: I'm I haven't heard back from them. Who knows If
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: I will, I'll, but I won't update you guys. I'll
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: update the shoot the my long ass story because I've
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: just gone on forever.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: But well, how you're not going to update these people?
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Well this is true anyway, You.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Just trying to force them all into the Patreon.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: No, I'm they don't care that much about this unless
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: they're going but I mean, I would just you.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Don't think they care about the story. Why'd you tell it?
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Anyways? So that's our that's what we have going on
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: right now, and so we will have a new episode
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: next week because we're not going anywhere thanks.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: To well, we don't have to rush out an episode
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: for sure, no, we were going to have one next week,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: were we.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, Well, it's hit or miss whenever we're going out
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: of town ste if we get it done. Anyways, So
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: that's my story. If if you've been if you don't
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: want to hear all this, this is where you start.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many minutes this is.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: We'll put it in the note, but yeah, I'll.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Put in the notes to skip whatever the first part is.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Unless you are trying to stay at this base camp place,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: then you might want to listen to it, because yeah,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: it's not cool what they did. All right, So thank
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: you everybody who's on Patreon. If you're on Patreon, you
• 16:44
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• 16:46
  Speaker 1: at free. You also get to Shoot the Pooh each
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: week pretty much. It's pretty much weekly where we just
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: kind of we usually talk about some sort of true
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: crime documentary and then we also just update you on
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: our lives what's going on. So this week we'll be
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: talking talking about Christmas and yeah, Christmas, we had a Christmas,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: we had a birthday we had If you're on the
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: The Shoot Oh, The Shoot Pooh, I will say that
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: stud did do the Polar Express, even though he claimed
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna participate.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I did not want to.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And you're like, why am I just hearing
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: about this. I'm not going to I did a Polar
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Express night with the children where I got them a
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: blanket and a little cup with hot chocolate in it,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: and I put lights and I put lights in the van. Well,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I told someone to put lights in the van, and
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: then I surprised him. I gave it printed amount a ticket,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: and then they had to give me their ticket. When
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: they got their ticket, they got a bell. When they
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: gave me their ticket, they got a bell. They got
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: to get in the car. They had their new blanket
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: with their hot chocolate, and then we drove. We had
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: to drive all the way to freaking Odessa because it
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: is the only place that has lights around here, and
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: they're they're pretty. I mean, it's free, so it's nice,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: but it's not that long of a light show. It's
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: but it's not bad for being free. Anyways, Stu was like,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I guess I had not told him about it prior
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: to telling him about it on the podcast episode, and
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: he's like, I just never I'm not doing this. I've
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: never heard about this, blah, blah. But we did do it,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: and one of the children did dump all the hot
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: chocolate in the.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Car first, so I had to spend an entire day
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: detail in the van.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: But they had so much fun. Well one of them
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: actually slept through it. Okay, one slept through it, but
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the other two like, they had a blast. They were singing, frozen,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: jingling their bells. Yeah, that was my brother's fault because
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: he was on He was in the back seat with them,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: and he should have been on top of the one
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: year old with the hot chocolate.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Nobody gave him those instructions.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, well he should have known.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Well why should he even know because he's around one
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: year old.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that baby's feral. He knows that she can't be
• 18:54
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• 19:01
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• 19:04
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• 19:11
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• 19:17
  Speaker 1: only because now we are broke because we just lost
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: down on Fixed. Anyways, I'm trying not to. I can't
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: get myself. Normally, I would get myself completely worked up
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: about this and it would just but I can't do
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that anymore. In my older age, I'm like, I can't.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I can't let it bother me. I can just try
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: to calmly fix the situation and do whatever means we
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: need to to try to get our money back. If
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: they stop responding to us, then we'll just have to
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: progress or something. Because what they did was completely, to
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: me unethical. So am I allowed to say that's due?
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, Steve said, I have to be careful what I say,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: but whatever.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people will see for all kinds of stuff. Okay.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: So anyway, so this week our case is out of Georgia,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: and I will put in the show notes that when
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: you guys can start listening if you don't want to at
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the mark anyways, all right. On July eighteenth, two thousand
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and eight, in Duluth, Georgia, is that who owns a
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Duluth trading company? You think?
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: No, there's a Dluthe up north?
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay whatever. Around nine pm, the police department received
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: a phone call stating that a woman had just been
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: shot at a strip mall Now, paramedics and police head
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: to the scene to find that the gunman had fled
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the scene and the woman was lying on the ground
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: on her back. The woman had a single gunshot wound
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: it appeared to be towards the abdomen chest area, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: she was rushed to the hospital while they looked for
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: evidence around the scene. Now, they did not know initially
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: who the woman was because there was no identification on
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: her or anything like that. And as they're looking around
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the area, they noticed that there's no shellcasing and no
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: vehicle at the scene, So appears whoever did this picked
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: up the shell caseing I'm guessing, and then they believe
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: she was the one that had the car, so it
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: seems like they stole her car. So they searched around
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: for an eyewitness and they lucked out. They found a
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: bus driver who was actually sitting there the entire time
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: at her because there was a bus stop nearby, sitting
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: there the entire time and saw this entire thing like
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: play out. Really yeah, So she said that the gold
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: car there was a small gold car sitting there for
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: several minutes, and then that's when an African American male
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: walked up to the vehicle and leaned on it, put
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: his hand on the thing like he was gonna talk
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: to the person in the car, and then just pulls
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: out a gun and shoots the person, drags the woman
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: out of the vehicle, and then took off in the car.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: The bus driver also said that he was wearing a
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: white T shirt with green sleeves, but there wasn't much
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: more detail because this was late at night, so they
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: couldn't see very well. They were kind of far away,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: but they could give it a decent description in terms
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: of like clothing and basic uh physical features to look for. Anyways,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: obviously the bus drivers like there was nothing they could do.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: That's like, like she was It all happened so fast.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: It was just very shocking and everything. So anyways, they
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: they were they were wondering, like who would do They
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: thought maybe possibly the person knew the person sitting in
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the car, because this was a very brazen attack, like
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: in a pretty public location. There's a strip mall there.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: If anybody saw there's.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: A gas station right there, he had to have seen
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the bus sitting there. I mean, the bus had at
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: least a driver and possibly you know, passengers sitting there.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: So this was pretty brazen of a crime. So anyway,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: so they so now they're looking at possibly did the
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: person know that this person was there and that they
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: were going to be sitting there and walk up and
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: shoot them.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: As investigators start processing the scene to see if there's
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: any evidence, that received a call from the hospital stating
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: that the woman did not make it. The bullet had
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: gone through her stomach and her diaphragm. Investigators still did
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: not know who this woman was. It would not be
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: until the next day when they received a phone call
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: about a missing person. A woman by the name of
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Camellia Coleman called authority, stating that her sister had failed
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: to pick up her daughter at work at eleven o'clock
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: the night before and that they could not locate her.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: The woman described where the daughter worked, and it was
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the exact location that the murder occurred. This is when
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: investigators pretty much figured out that the Jane Doe that
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: they had was most.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Likely the sister, Jani Coleman.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Jani Coleman, and that she had been shot. And now
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: they got to call the sister and let her know
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: that Jani has been shot and killed in the parking
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: lot the previous night.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so investigators, they began to learn more about Jeni
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: and the person that she was growing up. She was
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: one of five children. She went on to serve military
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and then after that she became a teacher. She had
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: a real passion for children and ended up adopting three
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: daughters on her own. Now, she had plans to move
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: coming up, and she was her dream was to open
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a preschool of her own to kind of tie those
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: all those things that she loved together. And we know,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: we've been through the preschool slash daycare world and we're
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, we need people that actually care about
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: teaching children and stuff to own these daycares because some
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: of them I feel like are just in it for
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe there's a bunch of money. I
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: have no clue, but.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Ye mean, yeah, there's a bunch of money.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Evidently, yeh's a lot of government money. I think it's
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: funneled through these daycare So you really need someone who
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: cares about children, cares about education, and is like a
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: really good person. And so Jani she fit all of
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: these things. So she would have probably done a great job.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: So this was her dream. She was just finishing up
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: all of her certifications to accomplish that. She was described
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: as very kind, caring, and responsible, so for this to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: happen to her was completely shocking. So her family did
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: not believe that this was someone that Jani knew. Jeni
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: would not, did not have any issues with anyone. She
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: didn't hang out with anyone that was like like troublemaker. Yes,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: like she did not do any of that stuff. So
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: they believe. They told investigators, this has to be a
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: random attack on her because she does not.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: She wouldn't hang around swindlers and sketchy people.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, swindlers and sketchy people. Yes. Anyways, she so they're like,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: this has to be a random person that walked up
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: and did this to her because she does not have enemies.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: So this would make the in case much more difficult
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: for investigators because now it's a random killing, and those
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: are the hardest to solve because it's just some random
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: motherfucker just walked up in and killed somebody. I mean,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: it's yeah, that's just she's just sitting in her car
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: mining her business to pick up her daughter at work
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and this happens. Thankfully, I don't they didn't mention anything.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think the daughter thankfully didn't walk out and
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: like see because the bus driver saw all this happened,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: was able to call nine on one right away. Thankfully.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I don't believe her daughter walked out and saw any
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: of this.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was laying out there, probably saw the cars.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Didn't think it had anything to do with mom.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean it would have been her mom's car. Oh,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the police vehicles. Yeah, she would have never thought anything
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: like that because anyway, So that's the only good thing
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I think is that they were someone did witness it
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: so that the daughter didn't have to walk out and
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: see that.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Police have no evidence at the crime scene where they
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: found Jani, So what they need to do, they figure,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: is track down her vehicle.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah that once they get the vehicle, they'll at least
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: have something because that's obviously the killer.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: The killer jumped in the car. There should be some
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: physical evidence in the car.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Thankfully they have the eyewitnesses.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they got the eyewitness said hey, this guy
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: took the car. So they're like, hey, if we find
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: this car, maybe we'll get it. But this is a rando,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: So now this is going to be difficult. Now they
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: catch another lucky break because the first lucky break was
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: the bus driver just watching this whole shit go down.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: But about forty miles away, an off duty police officer
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: had seen a man pull up in a car, and
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: this was Jania's car. But at this time, the off
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: duty officer was not aware that this was a stolen
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: vehicle and that it was involved in a crime, because
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: nobody put a bolo out on it, or.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: It hadn't been it had been that it was that
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: night that this all happened. So yes, there was no
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: investigation going on yet and they hadn't hadn't put that information,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: and there is a missing a stolen vehicle. All right.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: We had to take a small break because there was
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: children fighting in quiet time. They are loose now, so
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: we might get many interruptions. So just forewarning you, this
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: is not a professional podcast if you're new here, This
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: is a DIY. We are currently sitting in a closet
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: trying to recoup our fifteen hundred dollars.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: We got to push this out to the masses.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, I would also like I was thinking about it though.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: We'll get back to the case, I promise you, But
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I was also thinking about it. The other thing. The
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: reason that the whole thing about is not expiring comes
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: up with the email is because she tried to tell
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: me that she all of a sudden, out of nowhere,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the house credits expire within six to twelve months, but
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: there's not even a time frame. None of this is
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: written on their website. FYI not like none of it.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: This is all we're all made up rules. It's all
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: just whoever's feeling it at the moment.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: That's what it sounds like.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, and I do question whether quick write this down.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I wonder I question whether my bubble was actually damaged, I.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Will say that, or if they got new money.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Or if they got new people that wanted to stay there,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: and they were like, these people.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Are already paid, they can't get their money bank Yep.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: We can just screw them over and move on with
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: our day and get our new get their money and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: get the new people. Because no one seemed to know
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: about the bubble being dad imaged except for the one lady.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Everyone else was unawares of it. And I feel like,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: if that's like your moneymakers, you'd be like this whole catastrophe,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: that the bubbles were damaged. It'd be a major ordeal. Anyways, Okay,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: we're back to.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: The seem plausible. Yes as a theory, Yes.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: We're back to the deal. So the the the off
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: duty cop.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: He sees the car pull up into an empty strip
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: mall where all in the middle of the night, all
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: the stores are closed.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: What is the off duty police officer doing in the
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: middle of the night there, that's my question.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you doing? I'm trying to the stores.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: You seem a little sketchy.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Jeni's Jeanne's Jeni's.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Maybe he wasn't off due. Maybe he was ununiformed. Maybe
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: that's what they said. He wasn't in a regular uniform
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and he's like an undercover or like a I can't remember.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: They said he was off close or he was on uniform,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: meaning he's like trying he's supposed to be out there
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: at that tom of night making sure nobody does anything nefarious.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe he was off duty, just providing security for the
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: retail shops.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe, oh, maybe he was.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's hanging up some extra work.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Anyways, yeah, nobody ever said.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Nobody ever said misunderstood.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: So we're just guessing, like what happened to our bubble? Maybe, yes,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: just guessing just theorizing. All right, keep going, Stan, Should
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I keep going? Yes? Yeah, So the off duty or
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: the security guard, whatever he is.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: He's definitely a police officer.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, I'm saying he's off duty or he's doing
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: security work as an off duty police officer. The guy's outside,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: he's walking around the car talking on his cell phone.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: So the off duty police officer walks up to him.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: He's like, dude, all the shops closed, what are you
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: doing to night?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: What are you doing hanging around here in this parking lot?
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Seems a little sketch.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Well, he was walking away from the vehicle like he was.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Going to abandon it. Yeah, the guy that was walking
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: away from the car, he here's the guy talking to him.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I guess he looks at him, but he continues to
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: talk on a cell phone. He turns around, gets back
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: in the car and just drives off.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Doesn't really explain himself or anything. Oh, I didn't know
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: they were closed at two Way or whatever time that'side.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: It would be closed at this time of day. Now,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: the off duty police officer did have the presence of
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: mind to write down the tag number, and he ran the.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Plate, as would I do. As everyone knows I did
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: catch those armed rubbers.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, However, they did not know that Jenia's car was
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: missing at the time, as we said, because it had
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: not been entered as bolo. So when he ran the plate.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: It just said it belonged to her, and there was.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: She had everything in order and never been stolen every
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: because she has everything in order like she's a responsible person.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: So they were probably at the crime scene process in
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: the crime scene when this was all going down. So
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: there was a delay with the officers in Duluth finding
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: out that the car had been spotted forty miles away.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Once if they knew this, they at least had an
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: area that they could go look for the car where
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: they thought maybe the killer had dropped the car just
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: a mile or two away from where the off duty
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: officer had seen the car. They do find her vehicle.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: It's park crooked and two different parking spots, two different
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: parking spots, like it was left there in a hurry.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I don't understand why the person would drop
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: it so close to where you just were seen. I
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: would have drove another forty miles Why because because then.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: The bolo might be out on the car and they'll
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, there it is, my guy's driving it.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: You don't want to be in it, I guess.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: And also depending on how would he get home if
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: depending on where he lived, he would want to go
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: somewhere he knew somebody, he.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Might already had his drop car in that area.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that. But was he doing with
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the car though he didn't. He just drove it forty
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: miles and then dropped it and left, Like what was
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the point.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: He's probably talking to the guy who'd come to pick
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: him up on a cell phone.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know. Anyways, they begin processing the vehicle
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and Jeni kept a very clean car. So it was
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: this is we got to have clean cars people, because
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: it was super easy to pull prints from because you know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: like they've they've processed some of these cars we've seen
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: it's like trash everywhere. I mean, you've really you can't
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: get good evidence whenever the car is just trashed and
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: not clean.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: She kept everything all over the car, spilled coffee on
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: the weather tech in the backseat.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Anyway, so she kept an extremely clean car, so it
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: was very easy for them to pull prints off, and
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: they immediately found unknown prints in the vehicle, as well
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: as a print where the bus driver stated that the
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: killer had placed his hand on top of the car
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: and leaned on the car. They also had a lucky
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: break with a cigarette but that was found under the
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: driver's seat. Now they talked to Jeni's family. She was
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: did not smoke, She would have never let anyone smoke
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: in her vehicle, so they knew this most likely belonged
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to the killer. They believed that he didn't mean to
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: leave that butt in the car. They think it was
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: just he flicked it out the window and it just
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: so happened. He's also a litter, and it just so
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: happened to fly back under the car and get it
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: under the driver's seat. Sorry, we had an interruption. So yeah,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: they believe it just flew back under the driver's seat,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: like he did not intend for it to remain in
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the vehicle. So now they've got prints, so they're getting
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: some lucky bricks. They've got well, also, this criminal is
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: just stupid, but they've got prince and now they've got
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: a cigarette butt that could possibly have a DNA profile.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: So now they have to send all this off to
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: the lab.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: While they're waiting on the lab to process the fingerprints
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: and the DNA, they begin pulling surveillance video from the
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: nearby businesses. At the convenience store, they do spot their killer.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: He walks in wearing the same color clothes that the
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: bus driver described in the video. He's walking around talking
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: on his phone. He's loud, he's cursing, so he is
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: drawing attention to himself. He ends up entering the convenience
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: store three times over a short period of time. The
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: first two times he buys a single beer, and he
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: does make a smart ass comment to the clerk saying, well,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: when you buy a beer at the liquor store, they
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: don't put it in a paper bag.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: But I feel like they do. Maybe he's said at
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the restaurant, he was being like he was just being annoying.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: He was an obnoxious customer. Yes, and for someone who
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: was about to commit a crime, he was very loud
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and making a seat. Yeah, you would think you wouldn't
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: want to bring attention to yourself.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: The final time that he comes into the store, he
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: purchases his cigarettes and the clerk says, hey, you're back.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: They are able to hear what kind of cigarettes he orders,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: and it does match the one that they found in
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: the vehicle. They're one hundred percent sure this is the killer.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: They can see him in the parking lot walking around
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: in the same clothes prior to the killing of JENNI.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he also didn't wear anything. I mean the shirt
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: was very distinctive too. It was it was like white
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: on things and then had the green sleeves. I mean
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: it's like clear as day. It wasn't even like a
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: generic black shirt or red shirt.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: A one tone shirt.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Nothing.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: There is a very big twist into this that I
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: think everybody's going to be shocked about. The shocker too,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and the Stuart stop, what is wrong with you? Stuart? Anyways?
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: The DNA stops, Stuart, why are you like this just stopped?
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: What? It's been fifteen years.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: The DNA evidence and fingerprints were processed. They placed them
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: into the national databases. However, there were no matches like
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: right off the bat, and again they wanted to be
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: clear like this isn't like the TV shows. They don't
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: just pop it in and then all of a sudden
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: it's like it's got It takes a long time for
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the I guess the algorithm or whatever's in there in
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: the background processing to like narrow things down, so it
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: wasn't a hit right off the bat. So now they
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: needed to rely on that on the public and that
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: surveillance video to see if they can put that out
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: there see if anybody recognizes the man because he was
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: you do get a pretty clear shot of him on
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: the because he's in the convenience store three times and
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: he's got that the clothing on. Unfortunately, they do not
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: receive any tips, so knows who this person is now
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: at this point because he didn't pay with a credit
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: card at the gas station. He paid with cash, so
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: there would have been a smart I think he just
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: probably didn't have a.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Credit card, a credit card or a debit card.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, so anyway, So anyway, so they put that out there.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: There's no tips coming back in. They've processed all the
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: evidence that they have, they followed up on any leads,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and they're at a dead end. They did, however, have
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: all of this person's information in that national database, so
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: it was kind of a waiting game for them to
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: find the match. Now a year goes by and they
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: finally received word that there was a match in the
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: CODA system to a Donald Smith. Okay, Donald Smith Donald. Yes,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: they found out from his rap sheet that he had
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: a pretty lengthy and violent criminal history, including a bank robbery,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: other things with weapons and stuff like that, so it
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: would not be out of the realm of possibilities for
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: him to carjack someone like to carry out this type
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: of violent crime. Now, now that they know who their
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: potential so killer is, they want to build a case
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: around him prior to arresting him so that he cannot
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: come up with an excuse as to why his DNA
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: would have been found in the Jeni's cardlike saying, oh,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: we were dating or something like that he.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Got at a bar.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were able to pull his cell phone records
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: and since multiple people said that he was on his
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: cell phone as well as having video of him on
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: his cell phone, they were able to ping him in
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: that area. So now they have multiple sources of video
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: showing him on there DNA DNA, the fingerprints, well, they
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: don't have the fingerprints, They just have the DNA right now,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: So that's important. Remember that they have the DNA and
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: then they have the cell phone evidence stating that he
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: was in the area at the time of murder. They
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: do have the fingerprints to compare it to him. Once
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: they arrest him, yes, or bring him in.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: So they picked up Old Donald for an interrogation and
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: they bring him in. They're talking to him about the murder.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: They start off by asking him he knew Jenni or
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: if he had seen this vehicle which they showed in
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: the picture of her vehicle. He denied both, saying that
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: he never met her, he'd never been in her vehicle,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: the vehicle, He didn't kill her. He didn't know who
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: they're talking about. Once they had him denying any involvement
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: with the vehicle or Jani, they told him about the
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: evidence that they had found. They let Old Donald know
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: that they got the cigarette with his DNA on it.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: He still denies any involvement with it. But he did
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: take a polygraph test and he failed that. Failing the
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: polygraph test was the one thing that did make Donald
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: have a reaction to this whole thing, and he became
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: very upset. This is when Donald drops a bombshell and
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: says that that is not him in the video footage Kara,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: and that is not his DNA, It is actually his
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: twin brother Ronald.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, he's got the old twin. The whole twin excuse, So.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: We're gonna let Donald go while we go look for
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: his twin brother.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Ronald Ronald. Now, investigators were concerned about this because they
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: did know that Donald had an identical twin brother named Ronald.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: First of all, Donald and Ronald like Ronald.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Is there a that's like, is there a triplet named
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: mac like Ronald McDonald?
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we should have thought, let's let's do better
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: appearents on the naming. Anyways, Therefore, they since they're identical twins,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: they share the same DNA profile, so there is a
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: chance that they do have the wrong person. But I
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: don't understand why if they knew that he had a twin,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: why wouldn't they bring it Because I guess the codis No,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: they did know. Yes, they were concerned about this, as
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: they should because it would call into their DNA the DNA,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: but I guess he was the one that pink so
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: there was that was the one that they were able
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: to bring in because he pinged in the CODA system
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: that it was matching. The Ronald did not. He wasn't
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: in the CODAS system. So anyway, so this is a
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: conundrum because this could call like I said, call in
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the question the DNA evidence. However, they still have those fingerprints,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: and although identical twins have the same DNA, no two
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: people have the same fingerprints, so that is still something.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: And they know based on eyewitness that the killer put
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: their hand on top of the car, so they know
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: those belong to the person that actually did this. Now
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: investigators need to go track down the twin, Ronald, because
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: now they have cause to bring him in because his brother,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: his twin brother, just said, hey, I didn't do this,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Ronald did this. They do find out that he is
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: in possession of that cell phone, so apparently they share
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: this cell phone or whatever. They just have this one
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: cell phone, and so he is in possession of the
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: cell phone that was connected to the crime scene. And
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: even though they are you know, they are identical twins.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: So of course as they get older, they could their
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: structures the same. But one of them could have facial hair,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: one of them could have aged differently based on lifestyle
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: one of the gang waight, but they didn't. They looked
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: almost exactly the same to the day, like you couldn't
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: tell a part on the video camera like this video surveillance.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Something else they noted whenever they brought him in to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: interrogate him. He was smoking that brand of cigarettes that
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: they knew was the killer had purchased at the convenience store,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: and that was found in the course. This is just
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: more things building up to, you know, say, hey, this
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: is probably we do it was the other twin anyway,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: So they ran both fingerprints and they found out the
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: actual killer was Ronald's do not Donald.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Ronald also had a rap sheet too. They were both bad, Like.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Are they not any bad? Though? I don't understand how
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: it took a year if there were both some packer
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: heads that.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Were because they were they were in there, or he
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: got put in there later or something. But they said
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: it takes a long time for the system to really
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: narrow it down. It's not like a quick like word
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: search out there or something. It takes a long time
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: for it to pull all the data to get it
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: to find a match or whatever.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: So they were in the system just.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Well, no, I don't know if Ronald wasn't in the system.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: You don't know if Ronald or.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Donald was in the system. Donald's the one that pinged
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: in Cotis. Ronald was not in the system yet, just Donald,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: but Ronald was not a good guy either. He was
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: doing shitty things too. What sucks about this is these
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: are like terrible people. And there was this nice lady
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: who was picking up her daughter, who adopted three daughters,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: very responsible, doing all this stuff and everything, and just
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: these these ass hats just walk up and or one
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: of them does. I mean they both should be in jail.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I feel like the other guy's doing shitty things too.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: They said he's dangerous, Like why is he out? And
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: about anyways?
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Room for that guy that'll weed?
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Investigators bring Ronald back in to interrogate him, and the
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: investigator tells him about Jenni and that the type of
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: person she was, how she adopted these three girls, wanted
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: to be a teacher. She was a teacher, well, a
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: preschool owner owner. Excuse me, just.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Give her props where she's gottam s due At the time.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: The investigator he leaves this very nice picture of Jeni
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: on the interrogation table in front of Ronald and then
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: he leaves. This is when they witness on camera Ronald
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: apologizing to Jenai's picture about what he had done to her.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: After this, he did confess to what he had did.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: He said he did what he did, what he had done.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Squeeze me God, the speech police are out today.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Well it's for Jeni, okay, she would want you to
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: use property proper.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, he said that the gun went off and that
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: it was an accident and that he did not mean
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: to shoot her. He said that he then panicked, got
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: in the vehicle and drove off to ditch it somewhere.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Investigators are not buying this bullshit that it was an accident.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: It was very intentional what he had done. And in
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: February of twenty ten, he was arrested for the murder
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: of Jenai.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Now, despite confessing to police that he had killed Jani,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: he pled not guilty, and during his trial he tried
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: to blame his twin brother.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Donald oh Man.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: He said that his confession was just an attempt to
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: protect his brother, and then that he was lying about everything.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: In trying to explain his fingerprints on the car, he
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: claimed that he tried to help his brother clean up
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: the car to hide in the evidence. So somehow he
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: managed to remove all of his brother's fingerprints, but put
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: his fingerprints exactly where the killer was witnessed putting their fingerprints.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I mean crazy Anyways, the defense and the brother are
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: shitty because the brother came in and sat in the
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: courtroom even though he was being like I would think
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna help my brother. He's trying to
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: blame me for this murder, but he actually going in
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: there to help his brother out by sitting in the
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: courtroom and everything. Their facial hair was exactly the same,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: to try to confuse the jury and be like, oh,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe it is yeah, maybe Donald did do it.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: So the whole family's shitty. Okay, these people.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Are because Donald would get on trial and be like, no,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: my brother Ronald.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if this has worked before.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe I mean if there's the same DNA and they
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: only had DNA evidence, but at some point Donald did
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: get in trouble for something and arrest in his DNA
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: put in the system. So I don't know. These these
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: people they suck anyways, So that was something that the
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: defense tried to do, trying to like just confuse the jury. However, thankfully,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: the jury was not buying it because that they had
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: that fingerprint evidence and it was very solid that those
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: they would not have the same fingerprints, and he was
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: found guilty of murder, and he was sentenced to life
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: in prison plus twenty five years. Hopefully Donald's in jail too.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Hopefully Ronald and Donald are in.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Jail hanging out together eating burgers.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, no, I don't want them eating burgers. I don't
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: want them hanging out. They should be stuck in a
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: jail cell together. Actually, they'd probably.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Be miserable, you think.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that all the time they want to
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: be like my brother Ronald did it. No, my brother
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: don Donald did it, and then they both get their
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: asses beat up. Anyway, So yeah, I just these kind
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: of things make me angry because it's like she didn't
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: even know these persons and they just walk up. She's
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: just doing and.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: We don't even have a mote of other than just
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: robbing O.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Just robbing her. I'm sure they probably took whatever money
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: she had in her purse or whatever, but they didn't
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: sell the car for parts or anything like that. They
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: just killed her and drove off. I mean, it was
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: like bizarre anyways. So that is our case for today.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Out of Georgia's dude, do you have a yelling gee?
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: I always have a yelling jews. Care all right, let's go, Yeah,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: you're gonna say something else.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: No, are you ready to go?
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I'm ready when you ready? Coming to us from the
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: New York Post my little honey hole where I go
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: to get my.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: What do you say that sounds disgusting?
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Yes? I know it bothers you, just like moist panties
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: bothering you. By Caitlin McCormick, Published December eighth, twenty twenty five.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Kara Man accident sent meth through tube at bank drive through,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: According to police Florida, not Florida, Florida and Ohio. Man
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: was arrested after in Florida and Ohio. Man was arrested
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: after authorities said he mistakenly sent a baggie of crystal
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: myth through a tube at a bank drive through last week.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Jason G. Smith, aged forty six, was cuffed on December
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: third after a swift investigation into an unexpected deposit see
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: what they did there he made at a bank in Woodsfield, Ohio.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: According to a presler release from the Monroe County Sheriff's Office,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Smith unknowingly deposited a baggie containing a crystal like substance
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: consistent with metha amphetamine into the air tube during a
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: simple transaction at the drive through bank. According to the
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: sheriff's office, Smith drove away from the bank apparently without
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: realizing his snaff fu that is sit situation normal, all
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: fucked up. Okay, in case you did.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Not know, thank you for that. I did know that,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Stuart Okay, crank as you told me a long time ago.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Probably he did this while a buy the book employee
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: at the bank flag the bizarre deposit. Officials with the
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Ohio Department of Natural Resources soon track Smith to Wayne Township,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: nearly two hundred miles outside of Woodsfield. According to the release,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: that's a long way to be tracked down. Yeah, A
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: dutiful canine dog named Max sniff Smith's truck and uncovered
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: suspected drugs and drug related items. Illegal drugs don't belong
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: in bank drive throughs, but they can be turned in
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: at the Sheriff's office. No charges, no handcuffs, just help.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: We'd much rather safely take them off the street than
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: see another unexpected deposit. This is the Monroe County Sheriff,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Derek Norman wrote on Facebook trying to be funny. Oh yeah,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Smith was booked into Monroe County Jail. The sheriff said
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: but his charges have not been announced yet the end
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: oh wait. Online users struggle to wrap their heads around
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Smith's supposed drug bungle. I bet he was mad as
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: hell deposit his check and his drugs laughing, my effing
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: ass off. You can't imagine the frantic search that ensued
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: when he was looking for them. One person commented, So the.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Bank teller kept the drugs and turned them in.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't realize that you could be too stupid
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: to do drugs. Another person joked, this is your brain
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: on drugs. One person added, I need to go find this.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you like shoving this up there? It
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: was he must have been depositing cash, but it's like
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: a pretty big stack and he well, it would have
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: been a pretty substantial amount.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Or like it was probably just a little small bagging.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, not.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Enough to really get in trouble. Never do while you're missing.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Out, all right, So that's our y'all need Jesus again.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Thank you If you listen to my whole story about
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: the base camp place. If you think I'm in the wrong,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: you're wrong, yes, tell us no, I just I've just
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: never experienced in places just like there's goes your money,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: because I had questions about.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: It, like what are you gonna do with the rest
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: of my credit?
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I know, it's like it's just like I would have
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: been fine if they had responded back said, yeah, sorry,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: we had to put you in a to get you
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: in a bubble. We had to put you in the
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: But don't lie to me and say that the Deluxe
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: is the same as Deluxe Bubble, the same as the
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: regular bubble. I mean that has the word deluxe in it.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, there's no difference. I have.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I have. I mean I have confirmations that show the
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: amount of money dwindling down as they lower. What level
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: of place I was staying, Well, here's.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: A tent outside of our complex.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know. I can't get myself work.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have to try to get figure out
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: a way to get our money back and let other
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: people know that they need to proceed.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Caution, especially if you're going to cancel, yes.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Or it wasn't. I didn't want to cancel though we
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: had a medical situation. There was nothing I could do.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: It was like a remote location. The doctor's like I
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: would not go out there, your your your flu I
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: had like higher levels of fluid or whatever. That's cause
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: that was that doctor. Anyways, that's a whole nother story.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I had higher levels of fluid, which I'd never had before,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: so I was freaked out. They were like your water
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: could break it any moment. It's a medical emergency. You
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: got to get to a hospital, and you're we're out
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: there in a remote area. So they were not they
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: were they were very understanding at the beginning. I don't
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: know what happened. I don't know what happened. I booked it.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I booked this back in September. I mean it was
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: like I never even thought anything about it, that it
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: would be a problem. I was even okay with losing
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: the three hundred dollars to them or whatever. It's it's like, okay,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I'll take the loss since I had to cancel. I
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: just have never anyways, I'll move on from it.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: You don't care about throwing that money.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I do care, But I can't get worked up about
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: this stuff. Got oh, I made a terrible mistake about Garland. No,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I've I had to. I've had to, really, I've had
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: to really like take it down and notch on like
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: getting ups. I used to get so worked up about stuff,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: but I just can't because otherwise it's going to run
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: my day and stuff like that. So I have to
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: just like compartmentalize it, move on, do what I can.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Because the other thing I did was I was like, Okay,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: I've been trying to like slowly add Christmas decor each
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: year and just add like one or two things because
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I don't believe in this, like let's just redo Christmas
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: every year. So many people get a whole new theme
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: every year. I'm like, I ain't doing that one. It's
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: expensive and too I like how it's like kind of
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: mismatch whatever stuff you've had from your childhood all the
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: way up to like new stuff. Soon as, I was like,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna add a few things. So I got
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: a real good deer deer, real good deal on some
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: deer out in the front or in fucking West Texas.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: So they just blew over so they're just laying out there,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: looked like they got shot. And then and then I
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: bought garland. I was like, I found some garl Like
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: it seemed like it was a pretty good deal. I
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: thought it was. I it was twenty twenty five foot
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: garland to wrap around the door, So this was gonna
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: be my new big thing that I was gonna add
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: this year. They were fifty dollars each. I'm like, you
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: know what, I'm just gonna do it, and it's gonna
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: be my one hundred dollars I spent on Christmas Decord
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: this year, and we're gonna just this will be my
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: new thing I add because I've always wanted one to
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: put the lights around the door with the garland and
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: the bow at the top. So it arrives. I don't
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: think anything of it. We left, we went to Colorado,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: We leave it in the garage, and then Stu Goo's
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: open up. I'm like, hey, can you put that up
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: now or whatever? He's like, it's falling apart. I'm like,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: what's I was like this? Oh, I was like, no, wonder.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: It was so cheap. It's like shitty or whatever. It
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: was live garland guy. And there's nothing I can do
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: about it because I went the description is said live.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: So if it's my fault, I will just take the hit.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I have another bone to pick with Saands, but that's
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: to shoot the Pooh story. But but uh, anyways, so
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I just had to take and so I had to
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: like put that on my mind. I was like, I
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: can't even think about how I just wasted because that
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: really I do not like to waste money, and that
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: just really killed me. That hundred dollars. I was like,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: this is if I focus on this, this will be tragic.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I will I will spiral. Yes, So I have to.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I've had to learn to compartmentalize.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: That means on our next trip, our next cruise, I
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: got one hundred dollars, I can go spend in the casino.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: No, that's if you only if you win my hundred
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: dollars back from that.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: I can't win it if I don't play it.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I've just had to like learn to let
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: things go in my older age because I can't. I
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: see how it just like takes more time away from you,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: and there's nothing I can do about it. If it's
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: my fault. Though that was one hundred percent my fault.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I just had to take the hit. This fifteen hundred
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: dollars is not my fault. This was like I was
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: trying to work with them and they were just like, here,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: take whatever we give you the fuck up. If you
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: don't like it, we're just removing. We're just taking your fifteen.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: And don't ask about the other happy years credit.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and now I'll look back, I'm like, why did
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: I spend fifteen hundred dollars on these belt But it
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: was just like we just moved out here and it
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: was like a cool experience and everything. But now looking back,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: now that's cheaper. And then I started reading some of
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: their reviews and I'm like, it don't sound like it's
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: that great or whatever. But anyways, nonetheless, I digress.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Here we are, all.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Right, so thank you everybody. Check out Patreon, check out Instagram, Facebook, TikTok.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I post what we have for dinner every night. It's
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: kind of fun, you know. I just kind of whatever.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Fun for who it's me for no one, I don't
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: find me.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I just find those things interesting. So I'm like, wow,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: I just post what we're having for dinner. Maybe one
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: day I'll post the recipes.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: But I can't post the things to fine I find interest.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: No nobody wants to see them anyways. All right, Well, we
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: will see the Patreons on Friday for Shoot the Pooh
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: and everybody else next week because we are not going
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: to base anyways. What do I do? You have anything else?
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: To say, I do not caro.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: All right, well we'll see you next time. By everyone,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Say bye Steve.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: By Steve. Don't you know it's bad to be supersticious?
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Mind nothing else. It's working and my hand it's pretty
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: learning and sick. It's worthy. I can