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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. May
- 0:27Speaker 1: God have mercyful my enemies, because I won't welcome to
- 0:32Speaker 1: Ridiculous History. My name is Ben. That is a quote
- 0:35Speaker 1: by George S. Patton Jr. My name is no. And
- 0:38Speaker 1: that was a very grizzled sounding impression there. I liked
- 0:40Speaker 1: it very much. Is that what he sounded like? I mean,
- 0:42Speaker 1: he's he's living life in the middle of wars man.
- 0:45Speaker 1: That's that's like a war voice. He is known as
- 0:48Speaker 1: one of the most grizzled generals, as portrayed by what
- 0:51Speaker 1: is it George C. Scott got it? Yeah, Casey on
- 0:55Speaker 1: the case That Casey on the case is uh. Nod
- 1:00Speaker 1: to our super producer, Casey Pegram. That was a nice
- 1:04Speaker 1: doubling up of those moments there, Ben. I really like that.
- 1:06Speaker 1: So who was General Patton? Ben? Great question? Uh? In
- 1:11Speaker 1: addition to be in the main character of today's Strange
- 1:14Speaker 1: Ridiculous anecdote, George Smith Pattent Jr. Was a general of
- 1:20Speaker 1: the U. S Army who commanded the seventh Army in
- 1:23Speaker 1: World War Two, the Third Army in France and Germany
- 1:26Speaker 1: after D Day UH the Allied invasion of Normandy in
- 1:29Speaker 1: June of nineteen forty four. He also makes an appearance
- 1:34Speaker 1: in one of my favorite graphic novel series, Uber, which
- 1:38Speaker 1: I highly recommend checking out if you are a World
- 1:42Speaker 1: War Two buff, if you're a sci fi buff, if
- 1:45Speaker 1: you just like good stories. He was born into a
- 1:49Speaker 1: family with a very storied military background, both in the U. S.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Army and in the late Confederate Army. He went to
- 1:58Speaker 1: West Point, he study the fencing. He even designed the
- 2:02Speaker 1: M one cavalry saber more commonly known as the patent
- 2:07Speaker 1: saber today. Fun fact about him he competed in the
- 2:11Speaker 1: nineteen twelve Summer Olympics. I know it's true. He was
- 2:14Speaker 1: a triathlete, or excuse me, a pent athlete swimming, riding, fencing,
- 2:18Speaker 1: running and shooting. Man, that is a real uh pent
- 2:22Speaker 1: tuple threat? Yes, yeah, I mean forget about Broadway, right,
- 2:26Speaker 1: what do they have? Just triple threats? But now it's true.
- 2:29Speaker 1: This was in the nineteen twelve Olympic Games in Stockholm.
- 2:33Speaker 1: What a guy. And on his way up to all
- 2:36Speaker 1: of these accolades, it was later were later to come
- 2:38Speaker 1: for a patent. He was one of the inaugural members
- 2:41Speaker 1: of the first ever United States Tank cores established in
- 2:45Speaker 1: nineteen seventeen, so he thought he would see more action
- 2:50Speaker 1: with these newly invented armored vehicles than what if he
- 2:53Speaker 1: had just stayed with the infantry. And before the year
- 2:56Speaker 1: had passed nineteen seventeen, Patent becomes a colonel and he
- 3:00Speaker 1: sent to France and he's ordered to find a good
- 3:03Speaker 1: location in France to train people in the use of tanks.
- 3:07Speaker 1: He finds a village named Borg b o U r
- 3:10Speaker 1: G and he says, you know what this, this will do.
- 3:14Speaker 1: That'll do pig because it has so much mud that
- 3:17Speaker 1: they can practice driving in. It's true. It turns out
- 3:20Speaker 1: the Borgs primary exports are fish and mud. Oh is
- 3:25Speaker 1: that is that true? Okay? Oh? How how? Why are we?
- 3:30Speaker 1: Why are we mentioning the village? And we we didn't
- 3:33Speaker 1: even check with you, Casey, What can can you illuminate
- 3:36Speaker 1: the Francophone perspective on this village Borg? Well, Borg is
- 3:40Speaker 1: like a generic kind of um word that you see
- 3:44Speaker 1: in lots of city names, like Luxembourg or something. Um.
- 3:48Speaker 1: It's like Pittsburgh that we see here in America. But
- 3:51Speaker 1: it just means, basically, it's like a village that's on
- 3:54Speaker 1: the larger side and features markets and you know, would
- 3:58Speaker 1: be sort of a meeting place or a trading place
- 4:02Speaker 1: for other smaller villages nearby. So that's a boorg. But
- 4:06Speaker 1: this one is just called Org so they didn't bother
- 4:09Speaker 1: specifying anything more, you know, precise, just Burg. So it's
- 4:13Speaker 1: like a town named town. Yeah, kind of casey on
- 4:17Speaker 1: the case. So it seems like a little bit of
- 4:21Speaker 1: an uncreative burg Borg here, but you know that makes
- 4:24Speaker 1: sense where they would be so lousy with fish and mud,
- 4:27Speaker 1: but not a bad place to train Tanksman, what do
- 4:31Speaker 1: you call a tank a tanker? Where where the fish
- 4:33Speaker 1: coming from? I don't know, just my imagination. Okay, well
- 4:36Speaker 1: they're a long water so a little coastal r. What
- 4:38Speaker 1: do you call a tank driver, pilot, a pilot. No,
- 4:42Speaker 1: you don't call them a pilot. You would call them
- 4:44Speaker 1: a driver. The driver drives the tank, but they're not
- 4:47Speaker 1: really in charge. They're just steering their following orders. Yes,
- 4:51Speaker 1: they have a professional backseat driver called the commander, and
- 4:54Speaker 1: they're in charge of the whole tank. Oh that's got
- 4:57Speaker 1: to get a little bit awkward sometimes a professional backseat
- 4:59Speaker 1: dry ever. Well, yeah, they but they're also in charge
- 5:03Speaker 1: of telling the gunner and the load or what to
- 5:05Speaker 1: do and communicated with Okay, so you got they're not
- 5:07Speaker 1: just sitting there. You got a gunner, a loader, a driver,
- 5:10Speaker 1: and a commander. So it's a four person team in
- 5:12Speaker 1: one of these things, yes, or three if there's an
- 5:15Speaker 1: auto loader installed, because the then the loader doesn't need
- 5:19Speaker 1: to be there. They would just be watching the auto loader.
- 5:23Speaker 1: But back to pattent back to the board. Uh, no
- 5:27Speaker 1: relation to the board from Star Trek which dissimilate, which
- 5:31Speaker 1: I loved. You remember when Picard gets taken by the
- 5:35Speaker 1: borg and turns into Locutis gets borged. You could tell
- 5:40Speaker 1: he had some heft behind the scenes at that point
- 5:42Speaker 1: because his face wasn't really covered the way all the
- 5:45Speaker 1: other board where he just got a little dally bop
- 5:47Speaker 1: on his one of his temples, a little laser. He
- 5:51Speaker 1: was like a high ranking board. Yes, yeah he was.
- 5:54Speaker 1: He was. I think they even made a film about it. Man,
- 5:57Speaker 1: I forgot. I wonder if the board aged well. I
- 6:01Speaker 1: used to love the idea when I was a kid.
- 6:03Speaker 1: But that's a story for another day. Today's story still
- 6:06Speaker 1: has us talking with Patton. He's found the perfect place
- 6:09Speaker 1: to create his tank training school, and while he's there,
- 6:15Speaker 1: something very strange happens. The mayor of Borg comes to
- 6:20Speaker 1: Patton and he is weeping. This mayor openly, openly because
- 6:26Speaker 1: he feels terrible. I forgot to tell you, colonel. He
- 6:29Speaker 1: says to Patton that there is an American soldier, one
- 6:33Speaker 1: of your countrymen, who has died in this our small town.
- 6:37Speaker 1: So Patton, like in a frenzy, He's like, oh, man,
- 6:39Speaker 1: have I lost someone? Am I one man down? And
- 6:41Speaker 1: he looks through his ranks and finds that is not
- 6:44Speaker 1: the case. But the mayor says, no, no, there's definitely
- 6:46Speaker 1: been a dead soldier that was left behind here and
- 6:49Speaker 1: there's a soldier's grave. I'm confused about this relationship here.
- 6:52Speaker 1: What is he talking about? Why is he's he's saying
- 6:54Speaker 1: there's a dead soldier that is from your company, a
- 6:56Speaker 1: dead soldier from a previous engagement here, a dead American soldiers,
- 7:02Speaker 1: not necessarily as specific as from your crew that you're
- 7:07Speaker 1: taking to train in tankery. He's alluding to other some
- 7:12Speaker 1: other group of soldiers that passed by, and he feels
- 7:15Speaker 1: like he needs to inform them, but Patent, as you said, no,
- 7:20Speaker 1: he checks through. He says, well, all of my people
- 7:22Speaker 1: are fine, and the mayor insists, no, no, look, will
- 7:25Speaker 1: you at least go visit this guy's grave. We should
- 7:28Speaker 1: also mention that Borg is a really small town, and
- 7:31Speaker 1: like some other small towns in France, Board's population declined
- 7:37Speaker 1: considerably during World War one and two. So this is
- 7:40Speaker 1: this is a very small place. And the mayor takes
- 7:42Speaker 1: pattent to this grave site. To this quote unquote grave site,
- 7:47Speaker 1: there's a mound of dirt. There's a stick post in
- 7:49Speaker 1: the ground at one end, and nailed crosswise on that
- 7:52Speaker 1: stick such that it forms a rustic looking cross like
- 7:56Speaker 1: you see on a grave, is another piece of wood,
- 7:59Speaker 1: and it has what perhaps the mayor thought was the
- 8:04Speaker 1: name of the fallen soldier. It's it's a strange name.
- 8:07Speaker 1: It's not a very common name, I would say, then
- 8:10Speaker 1: or now for a person. The name is abandoned rear
- 8:15Speaker 1: conjured so much imagery. So you've got the mud, and
- 8:18Speaker 1: stacked on top of the mud, you got a pile
- 8:20Speaker 1: of dirt, and shoved into the dirt, you got a stick.
- 8:23Speaker 1: And then on the stick there's a sign that says
- 8:25Speaker 1: abandoned rear um and yeah, and the and the French
- 8:29Speaker 1: mayor had apparently made a little bit of a goof
- 8:32Speaker 1: and and thought this sign was across. Like you said,
- 8:35Speaker 1: I don't know, how do we keep spinning this yarn
- 8:37Speaker 1: bend before we do the big reveal? Or how do
- 8:39Speaker 1: we how do we do this? Let's set the sea
- 8:40Speaker 1: just a little bit good because patents reading this and uh,
- 8:45Speaker 1: you know, he has probably never heard of someone with
- 8:48Speaker 1: that name. And we can only speculate, my friends, we
- 8:51Speaker 1: can only imagine, hopefully optimistically, that the French mayor is
- 8:56Speaker 1: is kind of weeping, you know, by this very straight
- 9:00Speaker 1: a somewhat bellicost officer and then saying like, oh, can
- 9:03Speaker 1: you imagine the life he could have led, the humanity,
- 9:08Speaker 1: the inhumanity of war. He was but a youth, a child,
- 9:13Speaker 1: oh abandoned rear. Yeah. The French are known as being
- 9:16Speaker 1: somewhat emotional individuals, right, and you know they like to
- 9:20Speaker 1: weep openly while eating cheese and drinking tiny cups of coffee.
- 9:24Speaker 1: Watch out, we have a lot of French listeners. I'm
- 9:27Speaker 1: just kidding, French listeners. Goodness, gracious, we don't want to
- 9:31Speaker 1: we don't want to get the La Bush contingent. Look,
- 9:33Speaker 1: Americans only eat cheeseburgers and drink large, big gulp Coca Cola's.
- 9:39Speaker 1: And um what else do we do? We ride seguys
- 9:44Speaker 1: everywhere we go. No, I don't know. I'm just trying
- 9:47Speaker 1: to stereotype everyone. That's gonna be my new thing. I'm
- 9:49Speaker 1: gonna do on the show. That's your new thing. So
- 9:57Speaker 1: what happened? What happened? What could you tell us the
- 10:00Speaker 1: story of abandoned Rearnal? How did this? How did this
- 10:04Speaker 1: grave come to pass? Oh? Well, he certainly made a
- 10:07Speaker 1: grave mistake in identifying this, uh, this spot as a grave, because,
- 10:12Speaker 1: as it turns out, the mayor it made a terrible decision.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Wasn't a grave at all. But it was a latrine,
- 10:18Speaker 1: a potty, a privy, yes, a toilet. Uh, this latrine
- 10:25Speaker 1: was dug in the woods. It's it's a very common
- 10:28Speaker 1: part of camp hygiene to bury your you know, your leavings.
- 10:34Speaker 1: I went to camp hygiene when I was a kid.
- 10:36Speaker 1: It was great. They taught you how to like brush
- 10:37Speaker 1: your teeth and put on deodorant and just stay nice
- 10:40Speaker 1: and fresh. Like is the bit you went to a
- 10:42Speaker 1: place named camp camp hygiene. Okay, is the real thing? Oh,
- 10:46Speaker 1: it's kind of like space Camp, but it's camp hygiene,
- 10:50Speaker 1: good hygiene. Oh Man, space Camp. I know, dude, I
- 10:54Speaker 1: really did go to space Camp. I know you did.
- 10:56Speaker 1: I went to space Camp as well. Casey, which one
- 10:59Speaker 1: did you go to? Phil? Yeah? I went to I
- 11:01Speaker 1: went to Huntsville as well. Matt also went to space Camp.
- 11:04Speaker 1: From our other show, I have not been to space Camp,
- 11:06Speaker 1: only Camp Hygiene. I feel like he didn't miss very much. No,
- 11:09Speaker 1: really that he did. You to do the gyroscope? I
- 11:11Speaker 1: love the gyroscope? Did the gyroscope? You do the moonwalk?
- 11:15Speaker 1: Which is way cooler than the Michael Jackson moon walk.
- 11:17Speaker 1: I was moderately cooler than the Michael Jackson moon walk. Uh,
- 11:21Speaker 1: contrary to what the eighties film would have you believe,
- 11:24Speaker 1: you don't actually accidentally end up in a space shuttle.
- 11:27Speaker 1: But I learned a lot. But did you learn how
- 11:30Speaker 1: to diggle a train? Ben? Yeah? I did that in
- 11:32Speaker 1: Boy Scouts? OK. Well that's what I learned in Camp hygiene,
- 11:36Speaker 1: And that's what they were looking at that they thought
- 11:38Speaker 1: was a grave, but it was in fact. What does
- 11:40Speaker 1: a band in rear mean? Does that mean we've I
- 11:43Speaker 1: don't understand what does a band in rear. That's just
- 11:46Speaker 1: what someone used to describe their their leavings or their latrine.
- 11:51Speaker 1: Here's the thing. People find out about this story in patents,
- 11:56Speaker 1: autobiographical accounts which he drew from his Die Harry entries,
- 12:01Speaker 1: and he says that the French when they had taken
- 12:05Speaker 1: this newly doug latrine for a cross, it wasn't old.
- 12:08Speaker 1: It was a freshly doug latrine. He decided not to
- 12:11Speaker 1: tell them the truth. So he just let it ride,
- 12:14Speaker 1: or let it roll, i should say, as he was
- 12:16Speaker 1: into tanks at the time. And because he didn't tell
- 12:21Speaker 1: the residents of the town the truth about this spot.
- 12:24Speaker 1: But what do you think happened? Did they just keep
- 12:27Speaker 1: up with the grave, because you know, you wouldn't desecrate
- 12:30Speaker 1: a grave, and they had been up to that point,
- 12:33Speaker 1: they had been maintaining it right right, And since he
- 12:36Speaker 1: didn't tell them, we can only we can only assume
- 12:39Speaker 1: that they didn't randomly decide to desecrate this grave. And
- 12:43Speaker 1: now we come into a question of authenticity. Because the
- 12:47Speaker 1: only record of this story is the general's autobiography, and
- 12:52Speaker 1: this was incomplete at the time of his passing in
- 12:55Speaker 1: nineteen we have we have some questions and so we
- 13:00Speaker 1: have some questions and we want to hear what you
- 13:02Speaker 1: all think. If you don't have a knowledge of French
- 13:06Speaker 1: or English names, then maybe you know, like, maybe you
- 13:11Speaker 1: could assume the French mayor thought abandoned rear was a
- 13:17Speaker 1: name that would be common in the US. But the
- 13:20Speaker 1: problem with that is that the word abandoned means the
- 13:23Speaker 1: same thing in both French and English. Isn't that right? Casey, yeah,
- 13:28Speaker 1: casey on the case. So maybe he thought abandoned was
- 13:34Speaker 1: a rank in the army that makes sense, sure, or
- 13:37Speaker 1: like a defector of some kind. I don't know. Interesting, Yeah, yeah,
- 13:41Speaker 1: maybe it's like a coward's death. And yet they still
- 13:44Speaker 1: treated it with such with the with the utmost respect. Um,
- 13:48Speaker 1: didn't it also smell? How much dirt did they put
- 13:50Speaker 1: on it? You know how to diggle a treating? You
- 13:52Speaker 1: went to camp hygiene. There's a science to this and
- 13:55Speaker 1: there are standards. It's right, you gotta dig it at
- 13:57Speaker 1: least five feet down. Uh, And yeah, I don't know, Okay,
- 14:01Speaker 1: I've gotta come clean. Um. Camp hygeene is not a
- 14:04Speaker 1: real thing. And I've never dug a latrine. I've never
- 14:07Speaker 1: I've never even pooped outdoors dude. Sorry that you remember that.
- 14:10Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember. Yeah, you're not a camper.
- 14:15Speaker 1: You don't like to go Campa. Well, I mean, look,
- 14:17Speaker 1: I want to be more of a camper. I want
- 14:19Speaker 1: to be more of an outdoors man. I am trying
- 14:21Speaker 1: to meet somebody in my private life who's really into that,
- 14:25Speaker 1: because I tend to, you know, broaden my horizons when
- 14:29Speaker 1: i'm when I'm kind of like, what does exactly? Yeah, exactly,
- 14:34Speaker 1: That's how I That's how I actually ended up vegetarian
- 14:37Speaker 1: for like a decade. But I went back. Yeah, I
- 14:41Speaker 1: went back. It's actually this is unrelated. But you know,
- 14:45Speaker 1: to ever tell you when I stopped becoming a vegetarian,
- 14:48Speaker 1: well you you had become one at that point. I
- 14:50Speaker 1: assume I I had been one for several years and
- 14:53Speaker 1: then I started eating meet again when I was in
- 14:57Speaker 1: Central America because where I was living, you know, people
- 15:00Speaker 1: are being very gracious making you dinner or something, and
- 15:03Speaker 1: it's very I think it's very privileged and pretty inconsiderate
- 15:07Speaker 1: to tell somebody that's worked very hard on something, especially
- 15:10Speaker 1: if they don't have a lot to go around anyway,
- 15:12Speaker 1: to be like, I'm too good for this food. They'd
- 15:15Speaker 1: be lovingly given me. I've got scruples, Okay, scruples when
- 15:20Speaker 1: it comes to being prepared a nice meal. No, No,
- 15:23Speaker 1: it's a very good point, you know. It's like, especially
- 15:25Speaker 1: when you're in another country you're trying to honor customs,
- 15:27Speaker 1: it's very do Maybe if you don't even speak the
- 15:29Speaker 1: language super well, it's really hard to explain this without
- 15:32Speaker 1: sounding like a kind of an elitist jerk exactly. And
- 15:35Speaker 1: maybe this is similar to see, you thought we weren't
- 15:37Speaker 1: going anywhere with this, folks, but this is not just
- 15:40Speaker 1: a tangent. Maybe Pattent was in a similar situation where
- 15:45Speaker 1: he said, uh, because again this the French mayors proclaimped
- 15:50Speaker 1: you know, he's very upset. He's a lachrymose would be
- 15:53Speaker 1: a good word for it. So maybe Patton says, it
- 15:57Speaker 1: might be awkward for me to explain to this guy
- 16:01Speaker 1: that this is clearly not a grave. I don't want
- 16:04Speaker 1: to upset him even further. Yeah, I think the official
- 16:09Speaker 1: term as a whole, or I guess maybe technically like
- 16:12Speaker 1: a troth barrow, a barrow implies mobility, though, right kheel barrow, Well,
- 16:22Speaker 1: one of the old terms for a barrow is a
- 16:24Speaker 1: large mound of earth or stones, but that's over the
- 16:26Speaker 1: remains of the dead. So I'm probably conflating my word.
- 16:30Speaker 1: My word of the day I walked away with this
- 16:32Speaker 1: one was lachrymoset I love is a great word. This
- 16:34Speaker 1: story doesn't end just there, though. In nineteen forty four,
- 16:38Speaker 1: during World War Two, General Patton returned to borg the
- 16:43Speaker 1: as you said, Casey, the town of town, and was
- 16:47Speaker 1: given a heroes welcome by the people who remembered him
- 16:50Speaker 1: from the last time he was there in seventeen nineteen seventeen,
- 16:53Speaker 1: and he relived memories. He went to his old office,
- 16:57Speaker 1: he went to where he used to live back when
- 16:59Speaker 1: he was a huge deal general, and then he said, wow,
- 17:05Speaker 1: in the village is still respectfully maintaining the grave of
- 17:11Speaker 1: abandoned rear. Here. Here's my question, Ben, was it would
- 17:16Speaker 1: it have been more polite and ultimately less humiliating to
- 17:20Speaker 1: just tell the guy, tell the townsman townspeople that it
- 17:23Speaker 1: was in fact that they had made a mistake, so
- 17:25Speaker 1: they didn't just keep up this charade for all of
- 17:28Speaker 1: these low these many years. What's more humiliating, you know,
- 17:32Speaker 1: a moment of embarrassment or a lifetime of you know,
- 17:36Speaker 1: maintaining a latrine as though it were a grave. I
- 17:39Speaker 1: would say even further, what if the town of Boorg
- 17:42Speaker 1: is still doing this? What if he never told them?
- 17:45Speaker 1: You don't think they read Snopes and Borg. I don't know,
- 17:48Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, Snopes does have an interesting
- 17:52Speaker 1: article on this. Oh there's one last piece of specular
- 18:00Speaker 1: ation regarding how the mayor could have thought it was
- 18:02Speaker 1: a fallen soldier. Maybe the soldiers were in a hurry
- 18:08Speaker 1: and the soldier last name was Rear, that was their surname,
- 18:13Speaker 1: and they just abandoned them there and then, so it
- 18:17Speaker 1: would be like, you know, the same thing as abandoned Pegram.
- 18:20Speaker 1: I still think that's a stretch. I don't know what
- 18:23Speaker 1: led the mayor to believe this, and it's not clear
- 18:26Speaker 1: whether Patton felt sorry for the mayor or whether he
- 18:29Speaker 1: just privately thought it was hilarious. The Snopes article does
- 18:33Speaker 1: point out a really nice, sort of ironic, little twist
- 18:37Speaker 1: to this story of abandoned Rear that involves the general's
- 18:42Speaker 1: own battle record. Let's say he was only ever injured
- 18:45Speaker 1: in battle once during the muse ar Gone Offensive of
- 18:49Speaker 1: September nineteen eighteen where he and five other foot soldiers
- 18:56Speaker 1: were charging into machine gun fire and he's the only
- 19:00Speaker 1: one that survived. No, actually four of his companions were killed.
- 19:04Speaker 1: One of them was Okay, he got hit in the thigh,
- 19:07Speaker 1: and this is from his memoir quote it came out
- 19:10Speaker 1: just at the crack of my bottom, about two inches
- 19:13Speaker 1: to the left of my rectum. Uh, yeah, that's what
- 19:17Speaker 1: we said. The doctor said that quote. Um, he can't
- 19:22Speaker 1: see how the bullet went where it did without crippling
- 19:25Speaker 1: me for life. He says he could not have run
- 19:28Speaker 1: a probe without getting either the hip joint, sciatic nerve
- 19:31Speaker 1: or the big artery. Yet none of these were touched. Fate. Again,
- 19:36Speaker 1: I have never had any pain and can walk perfectly.
- 19:39Speaker 1: So it makes you, it makes it makes me think
- 19:42Speaker 1: of that million dollar injury the way they would describe
- 19:46Speaker 1: it in the Vietnam War, or something like in Forrest
- 19:48Speaker 1: Gump when the lottery by getting shot in a way
- 19:52Speaker 1: that takes you out of the war zone but doesn't
- 19:55Speaker 1: ruin your life. I think Forrest also got shot in
- 19:57Speaker 1: the keystone in the buttocks. Ye yeah, he shows it
- 20:01Speaker 1: to the to the president, and that really pretty well
- 20:04Speaker 1: doctored c g I footage. Yeah, he showed his buttocks
- 20:08Speaker 1: to um Lyndon Johnson, right, I think because Johnson says
- 20:13Speaker 1: he'd like to see his gunshot wound. Oh. Also, this
- 20:16Speaker 1: goes back to our old episode on what a terrible person,
- 20:21Speaker 1: what a real pill Lyndon Johnson was he had I
- 20:24Speaker 1: think he was the president who had a creepy thing
- 20:26Speaker 1: for scars. Yeah, maybe so. And he also like didn't
- 20:30Speaker 1: even get his pants um Taylor in a certain way
- 20:33Speaker 1: to make room for his bunghole. Wasn't he in the
- 20:36Speaker 1: butts as well? Yeah? Yeah, uh yeah, I've got to
- 20:40Speaker 1: I've got to figure out who that was. That's kid,
- 20:42Speaker 1: that was LBJ. I just I just looked at the
- 20:43Speaker 1: clip on the YouTube. There's even a reaction shot where
- 20:46Speaker 1: Forest kind of shows them the bullet wound and uh l,
- 20:50Speaker 1: b J sort of has a great reaction. Yeah. So
- 20:56Speaker 1: there you have it. If we were to draw oral
- 21:00Speaker 1: from this story, what what would it be? Is it
- 21:03Speaker 1: sometimes that it's the thought that counts? Can we say
- 21:07Speaker 1: that like they yeah, there we go. Because the community
- 21:13Speaker 1: of the town thought they were doing the right thing,
- 21:16Speaker 1: but what was actually inside was not the the fallen soldier.
- 21:20Speaker 1: They were expecting you know what this makes me think.
- 21:23Speaker 1: I would love to hear more about strange monuments, strange statues.
- 21:28Speaker 1: There's so many. I have been talking off air with
- 21:32Speaker 1: some of my friends before, I think with you guys
- 21:34Speaker 1: as well in the past, about the idea of getting
- 21:37Speaker 1: a statue built to yourself, Like who does that is that?
- 21:42Speaker 1: Isn't that something where someone else should build the statue
- 21:45Speaker 1: for you, like they should spontaneously love your work. Back
- 21:50Speaker 1: when our office was in Buckhead, which is a different
- 21:53Speaker 1: neighborhood from where we are currently based, there was a
- 21:56Speaker 1: statue for I believe the founder of the Peace Corps
- 21:59Speaker 1: would who was between our office and the toys r us.
- 22:02Speaker 1: Did you ever walk that way? Casey, do you remember
- 22:04Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? I don't remember the Peace Corps
- 22:07Speaker 1: guy statue. I remember there's a Michael Stipe Foxes. Yeah. Yeah, man,
- 22:13Speaker 1: we need more statues here. I'm a big fan of statues.
- 22:16Speaker 1: In my hometown, there is a true to life James
- 22:19Speaker 1: Brown statue because that's where he was born. Um and
- 22:21Speaker 1: but he appears very short, but apparently is his exact size.
- 22:26Speaker 1: It's weird at my at a town where a lot
- 22:29Speaker 1: of my families from My grandfather actually made tons of
- 22:32Speaker 1: the statues around town, like the ones in banks and
- 22:35Speaker 1: in airports and stuff like that. I think he made
- 22:38Speaker 1: some busts of us precedents too, but I don't know.
- 22:41Speaker 1: If you ever met Lyndon Johnson. I'll have to find
- 22:44Speaker 1: out and update if we can find any more weird
- 22:48Speaker 1: presidential or patent esque trivia. In the meantime, let us
- 22:51Speaker 1: all take this as a lesson in your neck of
- 22:54Speaker 1: the Global Woods. If you have a mysterious local monument,
- 23:00Speaker 1: do some digging. Maybe not literal, that might be illegal,
- 23:03Speaker 1: but do some research and see if it is in
- 23:06Speaker 1: fact what it purports to be. Agreed Uh, If you
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