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- 0:16Speaker 1: to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Uh.
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- 0:36Speaker 1: How are you, sir? I'm pretty good your papers? Please? No?
- 0:42Speaker 1: What is that you know? Into pol is that you
- 0:46Speaker 1: sounded like? Um? The little Asian man who gives the
- 0:49Speaker 1: box to Pinhead, the man who eventually becomes Pinhead. What
- 0:53Speaker 1: does y'all plasias? Uh? That's kind of who you're wanting
- 0:57Speaker 1: to be. Well, then that's what I was doing. Good one,
- 1:00Speaker 1: My first good impression yet. The guy has interpoll written
- 1:03Speaker 1: all over him, he's got a he's got an orange
- 1:07Speaker 1: notice out on him. I'll bet you green. We'll get
- 1:11Speaker 1: on that later. Chuck. I'm pretty much sure you had
- 1:15Speaker 1: nothing to do with this, so you may not have
- 1:17Speaker 1: heard about it. Um. Back in two thousand eleven about
- 1:22Speaker 1: this time. March two thousand eleven, inter Poll, the international
- 1:27Speaker 1: police organization, cracked a UM child pedophile ring, the biggest
- 1:36Speaker 1: one ever really centered on a website I guess appropriately
- 1:41Speaker 1: enough called boy lover dot net run out of Amsterdam.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Boy lover dot net is just a straight up legitimate
- 1:48Speaker 1: gay porn site, but there was a forum there with
- 1:51Speaker 1: like seventy thousand members with that like said, well, hey,
- 1:56Speaker 1: you're you're into this kind of thing too, huh Um,
- 1:58Speaker 1: I got a video that you're gonna love, and I
- 2:01Speaker 1: also have a little boy that I'm gonna mail to you.
- 2:04Speaker 1: So this wasn't affiliated with the website. No, they're just
- 2:07Speaker 1: using one of the forums as a meeting place for pedophiles.
- 2:11Speaker 1: But Interpol busted these guys up, rescued UM two and
- 2:14Speaker 1: thirty kids, arrested a hundred and eight four UM suspects
- 2:18Speaker 1: just in the first sweet pretty much in thirty countries. Yeah,
- 2:25Speaker 1: good for them, It is good for them. It's just
- 2:27Speaker 1: one of the many victories and triumphs over pederasty that
- 2:31Speaker 1: Interpol can boast. That's right, and not just pederasty, like
- 2:34Speaker 1: all sorts of huge international crimes. Anytime there's a crime
- 2:39Speaker 1: syndicate or a ring. You need to watch out because
- 2:42Speaker 1: Interpoll's watching you. Into Poll is right behind you. Why
- 2:46Speaker 1: does y'all plasia? Uh? And this was actually fans generated this. Um.
- 2:52Speaker 1: This came on Facebook like three days ago. Oh really,
- 2:55Speaker 1: I wish i'd have got the guy's name. Some kid
- 2:57Speaker 1: was like, hey, can you do one interpoll? And I went, yeah, sure, sure.
- 3:00Speaker 1: He wasn't talking about the band. He might have been.
- 3:03Speaker 1: They still around. Yeah, they're still around. H yeah they are. Yeah,
- 3:07Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what they're doing these days.
- 3:09Speaker 1: I'm not a fan, so I don't know. Dude, how
- 3:11Speaker 1: do you not like Inner Pole? Just like listen to
- 3:14Speaker 1: their music and it didn't sit right in my ears.
- 3:16Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I thought, like everybody like Dinner Pole. Yeah,
- 3:19Speaker 1: they're just good. Yeah, yeah, do you think all right?
- 3:22Speaker 1: INTERPOL the International Criminal Police Organization or i c PO,
- 3:28Speaker 1: or if you're in France or their headquartered, you might
- 3:30Speaker 1: call it the Organists Organist Internacional de Police criminal very nice,
- 3:38Speaker 1: which is pretty much the same thing and different word order.
- 3:41Speaker 1: I didn't know this, but criminal is feminine. Oh yeah, yeah,
- 3:46Speaker 1: I didn't realize that they like the ladies. Yes, all right, So,
- 3:51Speaker 1: as you said, Josh, they are an international UM fully autonomous,
- 3:57Speaker 1: not affiliated with any single country or inization. I think
- 4:00Speaker 1: they're a hundred eighty six countries nine now, and they
- 4:04Speaker 1: all contribute to the to the budget, to the kitty
- 4:07Speaker 1: based on their size and their g d P and
- 4:10Speaker 1: some other factors. It's very it's very fair, um, but
- 4:15Speaker 1: it's very important, like you said, that they're not beholden
- 4:17Speaker 1: to any one country, UM and that they remain neutral,
- 4:20Speaker 1: and they don't and they don't engage in any um
- 4:24Speaker 1: any investigations into political stuff things UM contributing or being
- 4:31Speaker 1: centered on race or um religion. That's right. My brain
- 4:36Speaker 1: is now working today. My brain is uh so what
- 4:41Speaker 1: they do, Josh, you just said what they don't do?
- 4:44Speaker 1: What they do do, uh terrorism, sexual terrorism like nobody,
- 4:50Speaker 1: sexual abuse, especially with children, which is what you just
- 4:52Speaker 1: talked about. UM, organized crime, international fugitives, computer crime, UM stolen,
- 5:00Speaker 1: aren't money laundering, human trafficking, illegal drugs, smuggling, environmental crime,
- 5:08Speaker 1: anything that crosses international borders. Almost you're gonna find into
- 5:12Speaker 1: pol helping helping out with But and you said the
- 5:18Speaker 1: magic phrase helping out like interpoll doesn't have they don't
- 5:21Speaker 1: run around like arresting guys. Place back guys. It is
- 5:24Speaker 1: interpoll UM and they they don't have interpolled jail, as
- 5:28Speaker 1: a Grabanowski points out, UM. But what they do is
- 5:33Speaker 1: they serve as this international meeting point for UM already
- 5:37Speaker 1: established national agencies. Right, So let's let's do a little scenario.
- 5:42Speaker 1: I'm FBI agent Todd Ridgeway of the des Moines, IOWA
- 5:47Speaker 1: Field office, and your agent, Vinny Testaverity of the Politia
- 5:52Speaker 1: Destado in Italy, and I believe a terrorist is UM
- 5:57Speaker 1: hiding out near your fel Old office in Genoa. So
- 6:01Speaker 1: I'm calling you up like ring ring. This is Todd Ridgeway.
- 6:05Speaker 1: I'm with the FBI in Des Moines. Hey, Todd, this
- 6:09Speaker 1: is Vinny tes So. And see what Chuck just demonstrated
- 6:16Speaker 1: was how it doesn't work because Vinny Testaverdi doesn't speak
- 6:21Speaker 1: a look of English and Todd Ridgeway doesn't speak any Italian. Right.
- 6:26Speaker 1: And not only that, he shouldn't have been calling Vinny Testaverdi,
- 6:29Speaker 1: he should have been calling Giuseppe de Bikono UM, who's
- 6:33Speaker 1: with the local police, because that's what the Italian UM
- 6:38Speaker 1: police bureaucracy protocol calls for but he has no idea, no,
- 6:45Speaker 1: so what does he do? He calls into POTE that's right,
- 6:49Speaker 1: and they step up and they're like, you know, he
- 6:51Speaker 1: need to get in touch with You need to get
- 6:53Speaker 1: in touch with Vinny Testa, Verdie's cousin who works for
- 6:55Speaker 1: the state police over there, the Polizza but Italy, because
- 6:58Speaker 1: there who's handling this case. Here's their number. In fact,
- 7:01Speaker 1: let me go ahead and patch it through. But not
- 7:03Speaker 1: only that, I'm gonna and I'm going to translate for you. Um. Yeah,
- 7:08Speaker 1: So they're the interpoll Um. Interpol has what are called
- 7:12Speaker 1: National Central Bureaus national country Bureaus no National Central Bureaus
- 7:17Speaker 1: n CBS, and that's like an FBI field office, but
- 7:20Speaker 1: they have them in different countries around the world, and
- 7:23Speaker 1: they serve as liaisons for the local or state or
- 7:26Speaker 1: national police with the same their counterparts in other countries.
- 7:31Speaker 1: That's the big one. Yea. It gets you know when
- 7:34Speaker 1: you it's it's complicated enough within these United States with
- 7:37Speaker 1: jurisdictions and protocol, but when you open it up to
- 7:39Speaker 1: the world, boy, it gets all kinds of crazy. So
- 7:42Speaker 1: luckily into poll is there you've been any peing contests well,
- 7:48Speaker 1: they probably tried to, but them should they exist? Um.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Their big deal is their databases, because the FBI and
- 7:58Speaker 1: the CIA, why they might all have like and whatever
- 8:01Speaker 1: your country's databases are crime databases, they probably just extend
- 8:04Speaker 1: to that country, unless it's like some sort of database
- 8:08Speaker 1: on terrorism. UM interpolls. Databases are away extensive. They circle
- 8:15Speaker 1: the globe and they can track criminals pretty much anywhere
- 8:19Speaker 1: and everywhere. Fingerprints, mug shots, wanted people, DNA, you name it. UM.
- 8:25Speaker 1: They have a they have a database just of lost
- 8:28Speaker 1: lost in stolen travel documents. It's got more than like
- 8:32Speaker 1: twelve million files to it. Yeah. I think I saw
- 8:35Speaker 1: somewhere today too that they said most people don't try
- 8:38Speaker 1: and recover those, which I thought was interesting. Well, I
- 8:41Speaker 1: imagine like if you lose your passport, you're probably traveling
- 8:44Speaker 1: abroad and yeah, you're not getting that back. You never
- 8:47Speaker 1: know unless you go. Yeah, yeah, they could have your
- 8:51Speaker 1: stuff because who knows, they could that could have been
- 8:54Speaker 1: stolen to be used in some trafficking syndicate. It's true,
- 8:58Speaker 1: and your name could be all drug all through the
- 9:01Speaker 1: mud on boilover dot net. UM. The the database that
- 9:06Speaker 1: they are, the databases that they maintain or are their own,
- 9:09Speaker 1: but they're open and their access through this UM communications
- 9:13Speaker 1: net we're called I seven. That's something because inter poll
- 9:17Speaker 1: is UM. They're open seven three even on Christmas. They're
- 9:22Speaker 1: fully operational. Really, they don't close down like all the
- 9:24Speaker 1: police do here on Christmas. No, because think about it, man, UM, Well, yes,
- 9:28Speaker 1: I get your joke, but I mean think about the
- 9:30Speaker 1: skeleton crews that go down. I think inter polls open
- 9:33Speaker 1: all the time because they cross all all UM time
- 9:37Speaker 1: zones at all times. Yeah, so they kind of have
- 9:40Speaker 1: to be ready to go all the time because you know,
- 9:42Speaker 1: while one guy sleeping, the criminals in one country are sleeping,
- 9:45Speaker 1: their wide awake and carrying out bad activities in another.
- 9:48Speaker 1: That's true. What else can they do, josh? Oh? They
- 9:51Speaker 1: serve that seven is also a place where you can
- 9:55Speaker 1: access another country's databases. So there's those those nationally bound
- 10:01Speaker 1: database has become international through this portal and interpal overseas
- 10:06Speaker 1: all of that, so they know what's going on. UM.
- 10:10Speaker 1: They also, let's say there's an international disaster of some sort,
- 10:13Speaker 1: like a terrorist attack, assassination, UM, they can send an
- 10:17Speaker 1: incident response team UM generally coordinated through the U N.
- 10:21Speaker 1: If there's some sort of actually a natural disaster like
- 10:24Speaker 1: the tsunami efforts, they can send people down there to
- 10:27Speaker 1: help UM identify people and look for missing persons. UH,
- 10:31Speaker 1: protect kids, because I can guarantee you there are a
- 10:34Speaker 1: lot of pedophiles who traveled to Indonesia after that tsunami.
- 10:38Speaker 1: That's right. That's crazy, man, that's just that's awful. Imagine
- 10:43Speaker 1: like losing your parents, being seven, suddenly an orphan, and
- 10:47Speaker 1: then now there's some guy who's like, hey, you're coming
- 10:50Speaker 1: to Holland with me. You're like, no, I'm not. He's like, yeah,
- 10:53Speaker 1: you really are. Well, you don't understand what he's saying.
- 10:55Speaker 1: He just offers you the lolly in a in a
- 10:58Speaker 1: car ride. Yeah. Very sad. But thanks to interpoll things
- 11:04Speaker 1: like that are being thwarted. Uh. And I saw there's
- 11:07Speaker 1: two types of incident response teams UM. They have the
- 11:11Speaker 1: criminal type and the disaster type UM and but they
- 11:15Speaker 1: both serve in an advisory capacity and they show up
- 11:18Speaker 1: with their database like I can get you into. They
- 11:23Speaker 1: can act as a central command. Though if local authorities say, hey,
- 11:28Speaker 1: we need your help to act as central command, help
- 11:30Speaker 1: us out with logistics. UM. I think the Grabster said
- 11:34Speaker 1: in two thousand five they did that twelve times once
- 11:37Speaker 1: a month. Not bad. Dust off the old work and shoes. Yeah,
- 11:41Speaker 1: like get out the field. Yeah, time to get out
- 11:44Speaker 1: of bed. How's it? Structure? Josh, Well, I'll tell you.
- 11:49Speaker 1: Interpoll is made up of a General Assembly in which
- 11:53Speaker 1: each of the member nations has one delegate and one
- 11:55Speaker 1: vote thanks a love sense. They meet once a year
- 11:58Speaker 1: and they vote on all the big stuff, which kind
- 12:01Speaker 1: of makes it a slow, lumbering bureaucracy unless they invest
- 12:05Speaker 1: a lot of authority into the Executive Committee, which is
- 12:10Speaker 1: the thirteen member committee that basically carries out all the
- 12:14Speaker 1: administrative functions of Interpol. And they are elected, as is
- 12:19Speaker 1: the Secretary General, although it saysn't here appointed. That's all elected.
- 12:23Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, now he's elected because um I saw
- 12:27Speaker 1: this guy, Ronald K. Noble. He got an overwhelming elegy
- 12:32Speaker 1: of the vote for his second reelection. So he's in
- 12:35Speaker 1: his third term, first time ever. Yeah, which is I
- 12:38Speaker 1: think he's running from under this current term. And he
- 12:44Speaker 1: is the first American secretary general if I'm not mistaken right,
- 12:48Speaker 1: And he's the first three time secretary general too. Then
- 12:51Speaker 1: a lot of frenchie's I think I saw one, uh Englishman. Yeah,
- 12:57Speaker 1: and uh, there's definitely one German cause there was some
- 13:00Speaker 1: controversy with that. I believe the president is Korean, now, okay,
- 13:05Speaker 1: not to be confused with the secretary general. The president
- 13:09Speaker 1: is beneath him, right. The Secretary General is who actually
- 13:12Speaker 1: runs the day to day show, right, and he's headquartered
- 13:17Speaker 1: um in the General Secretariat, which is the main headquarters
- 13:21Speaker 1: in Leon, France. That's right, um. And then there's other
- 13:25Speaker 1: there's regional offices. There's six of them, the sixth of
- 13:28Speaker 1: which is in New York, and that's the special Liaison
- 13:31Speaker 1: under the u N. Because Interpoll very wisely got in
- 13:35Speaker 1: with the u N because like this body has some
- 13:37Speaker 1: staying power. That's right. We're gonna become friendly with them.
- 13:40Speaker 1: You can also find these place offices in Argentina, El Salvador, Thailand, Kenya,
- 13:46Speaker 1: Zimbabwe and Cote Dvoir. Very nice, Thank you? Did you
- 13:52Speaker 1: practice in No? Just it's lovely name that I've said
- 13:57Speaker 1: it many use myself. Yet it means the um coast
- 14:03Speaker 1: devoir in French. Okay. You mentioned that we all all
- 14:07Speaker 1: member countries chip in for the budget. UM. The budget
- 14:10Speaker 1: is not a lot, though, compared to like any budget
- 14:13Speaker 1: in the United States. I think in two thousand seven,
- 14:17Speaker 1: um the grabster pointed it at roughly sixty one million
- 14:20Speaker 1: dollars US or forty four a million euros, which I
- 14:25Speaker 1: wonder what that's equal to now, two thousand seven dollars
- 14:28Speaker 1: to two thousand eleven. But it's a big change. I
- 14:31Speaker 1: should have looked up the current budget actually failed to.
- 14:35Speaker 1: It's okay, Chuck, let's talk about the notices. So this
- 14:38Speaker 1: is their other big thing. Um. They don't just sit
- 14:42Speaker 1: around and and wait to be asked for help. They
- 14:45Speaker 1: also disseminate information, and they do it through color coded notices.
- 14:49Speaker 1: They've got, Um, let's see what is the nine? Eight?
- 14:55Speaker 1: Think seven? Okay, so they have eight now because they
- 14:58Speaker 1: added another one after this after the Stephen. Yes, um,
- 15:02Speaker 1: and the different color codes mean different things. So you're
- 15:04Speaker 1: going to get via teletype possibly facts or maybe even email.
- 15:09Speaker 1: You'll get like some sort of maybe a PDF document
- 15:11Speaker 1: of um, say Orange basically says like, hey, we've got
- 15:17Speaker 1: we have pretty good idea that there's an imminent threat
- 15:22Speaker 1: and it's this guy and he's wearing this coat and
- 15:25Speaker 1: he's got a bomb. Yeah. So that if you get
- 15:28Speaker 1: an orange one, your head better perk up and you
- 15:30Speaker 1: need to look closely. That's right. Black is unidentified bodies.
- 15:34Speaker 1: That's the same one. That's the sattus of all notices
- 15:36Speaker 1: UM yellow missing persons. It's probably second status, uh green
- 15:41Speaker 1: general information and warnings about major criminals. So this one
- 15:45Speaker 1: is kind of it. Um, that's pretty vague. High well,
- 15:48Speaker 1: it highlights another function that they have. UM that it
- 15:51Speaker 1: wasn't explicitly stated in this article, but I gleaned using
- 15:54Speaker 1: my powers of deduction, that they have analysts who crunch
- 15:58Speaker 1: all this data, who poured through databasis, look at crime trends,
- 16:02Speaker 1: look at criminal trends, and then um come up with
- 16:05Speaker 1: basically just general notices. When they're sitting around with some
- 16:09Speaker 1: time on their hands, they issue green notices that say like, hey,
- 16:14Speaker 1: here's another angle to a case that you might not
- 16:16Speaker 1: have thought of. For interesting, have you met this guy.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Here's all the bad stuff he's done. He may be
- 16:21Speaker 1: in your neighborhood, right, that kind of thing, And the
- 16:23Speaker 1: local authorities say, yeah, yeah, interval, we got we know
- 16:25Speaker 1: you've got some time on your hand. Very nice, thank you.
- 16:29Speaker 1: The blue notice Josh is um individuals of interest related
- 16:32Speaker 1: to a crime, including the possible witnesses or suspects or
- 16:38Speaker 1: persons of interest. Is a good umbrella term for those
- 16:41Speaker 1: kinds of people your crime that's already been comming, people
- 16:43Speaker 1: who ran with the wrong crowd, where at the wrong place,
- 16:45Speaker 1: in the wrong time, and didn't stick around. On an
- 16:49Speaker 1: international level, that's right. Red. Recently, Mr Juliana Sans was
- 16:55Speaker 1: issued at the red notice, which means you are wanted
- 16:58Speaker 1: and it's sort of like a world wide a PB.
- 17:02Speaker 1: You gotta keep that. You print it out and put
- 17:04Speaker 1: it on your wall. What a red inner pole notice
- 17:08Speaker 1: on you? Oh yeah, got two find of his. I'll
- 17:13Speaker 1: bet he kept his thin I'll bet he's one of
- 17:15Speaker 1: the few who did. With photoshop though, I mean, you
- 17:19Speaker 1: can never tell if it's real or not. You or
- 17:21Speaker 1: I could make our own. I mean we should do that.
- 17:24Speaker 1: Why not have a feeling one's coming your way. UH
- 17:28Speaker 1: interpoll notice which is not a color. That was scary
- 17:31Speaker 1: to me because it was the only one that's not
- 17:33Speaker 1: a color unless the new one you talked about. It
- 17:36Speaker 1: is not a color. The Interpol notice means, um, it's
- 17:40Speaker 1: a U n UH Security Council Special notice, meaning groups
- 17:45Speaker 1: of individuals involved with al Qaeda or the Taliban or
- 17:50Speaker 1: at work. Yeah, people who have UN sanctions on them. Um.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Then there's now the Purple notice, which, um, basically it's
- 17:58Speaker 1: kind of like a green notice. It's like, hey, be
- 18:00Speaker 1: aware of this kind of stuff that's going on, but
- 18:02Speaker 1: it's about what people are doing, like international criminal trans
- 18:07Speaker 1: Like do you remember I think they were like pen guns.
- 18:11Speaker 1: There was like just a few years back, there was
- 18:13Speaker 1: like a pen that could shoot and it was very
- 18:16Speaker 1: low powered. But I think inter Poll sent out a
- 18:19Speaker 1: notice on this, like, hey, you guys need to be
- 18:21Speaker 1: aware that this thing's out there. Okay, well, inter Poll
- 18:26Speaker 1: probably inspired the writer. Interesting, it was a comedy too.
- 18:30Speaker 1: I guarantee Interpoll inspired the writer. It was pretty funny.
- 18:33Speaker 1: It was Fred red Ward, Fred Warder, Fred Willard fred
- 18:37Speaker 1: Ward Okay, the time writer Remo Williams. Yeah, he had
- 18:42Speaker 1: a he had a pen gun and shot at dude
- 18:44Speaker 1: in the neck. It was kind of funny. What movie
- 18:46Speaker 1: was it, Uh, thirty Minutes or Less with Danny McBride
- 18:50Speaker 1: and uh, it was good. The guy who played Facebook
- 18:54Speaker 1: he laid Facebook Mark, Yeah, the Jesse Eisenberg there, they
- 18:58Speaker 1: were both in that. It was sort of funny, but
- 19:01Speaker 1: not highly recommended. But that scene was funny because Fred
- 19:03Speaker 1: Willards like, you think it's a pen and all of
- 19:05Speaker 1: sudden need to shoot the stude in the neck with it.
- 19:06Speaker 1: That's funny. Um, that's high comedy. Yeah, it was very much. Um.
- 19:12Speaker 1: I watched Inside Man again last night. That's such a
- 19:15Speaker 1: good movie. Which one is that Spike Lee heist movie
- 19:18Speaker 1: with Clive Owens that dude, really Yeah, you hadn't seen
- 19:22Speaker 1: it either. I made it watch the last night. She's like,
- 19:24Speaker 1: this is a good movie. That's one of the few
- 19:25Speaker 1: Spike Lee movies I have not seen. It's see that
- 19:28Speaker 1: all right? Have you seen twenty Yeah that's a good
- 19:31Speaker 1: one too. Yeah. I think Inside Man hasn't beaten all right.
- 19:34Speaker 1: So yeah, Purple is just basically like information on new
- 19:38Speaker 1: types of criminal activity that people need to be made
- 19:42Speaker 1: aware of, like pen guns, gotcha and Fred Ward, But
- 19:46Speaker 1: the pen gun was a real warning or a real
- 19:47Speaker 1: purple warning. Notice, I don't know. I'm just assuming I'm
- 19:50Speaker 1: using example. So let's talk about the history of interpoll Chuck.
- 19:55Speaker 1: It has a strange, tumultuous history that closely fall It
- 20:00Speaker 1: was the tumult of the twentieth century if you ask me, Yeah,
- 20:03Speaker 1: and Ed kind of breeze right over the whole Nazi
- 20:06Speaker 1: part of it. There's been a lot of controversy over that. Actually,
- 20:10Speaker 1: oh yeah, why are they accused of colluding? Well, let's
- 20:15Speaker 1: back up. They were formed and being in Austria, uh,
- 20:19Speaker 1: during World War Two. Ed says they were interrupted when
- 20:23Speaker 1: the Nazis took control, deposed the Secretary General moved to
- 20:26Speaker 1: Berlin for a short time, but then after the war
- 20:29Speaker 1: everything was rebuilt, they moved to Paris, and that's kind
- 20:31Speaker 1: of all he said. I looked a little further into it,
- 20:34Speaker 1: and it's pretty uh, pretty controversial those years, UM, when
- 20:39Speaker 1: it was under Nazi rule. Obviously, Uh, they shared headquarters
- 20:43Speaker 1: with the Gestapo, officially operated UM as a division within
- 20:48Speaker 1: the Nazi Security Police, and to Nazi war criminals were
- 20:54Speaker 1: the agency's presidents during the wartime. Plus they overspent on
- 20:59Speaker 1: Christmas partes. Uh. And then this A read a Times
- 21:05Speaker 1: article and some of the comments back to the editorial said,
- 21:09Speaker 1: you guys even kind of whitewashed it because after the
- 21:11Speaker 1: war they refused to take part in the sixties and
- 21:15Speaker 1: seventies in any of the Nazi war crime hunting, war
- 21:19Speaker 1: criminal hunts. Uh wow, I had no idea, Chuck, I'm
- 21:23Speaker 1: really glad you did this. Yeah. And then uh in
- 21:26Speaker 1: nineteen their president uh to seventy two was Paul Dickkop
- 21:32Speaker 1: and he was an s S officer. No, he was
- 21:36Speaker 1: and remained president despite them finding out about this and
- 21:39Speaker 1: knowing about this, and that was pretty controversial. Toe, I'll
- 21:42Speaker 1: bet you don't usually want Nazis leading your organization former
- 21:47Speaker 1: Nazis either, no, you know what I'm saying. Once the Nazi,
- 21:51Speaker 1: always the Nazi in my opinion. Well, dip Cop was
- 21:54Speaker 1: the he was that the president for whatever four years. Yeah. Wow.
- 22:00Speaker 1: And a lot of people, a lot of people say
- 22:04Speaker 1: interpoll is like run without oversight and they have all
- 22:08Speaker 1: this access, but no one has access to their real
- 22:11Speaker 1: like how they do things the opposite of how grab
- 22:14Speaker 1: Minowski tells them. Yeah, it's a little more controversial than
- 22:16Speaker 1: I thought. Wants to start poking around. Well, I I
- 22:18Speaker 1: guess it was probably the VHS tapes that started to
- 22:21Speaker 1: bring them out of the dark and into uh, I
- 22:24Speaker 1: guess a brighter role. Remember the Interpol warning on old
- 22:28Speaker 1: video cassettes? Now was that interval? Oh yeah, and now
- 22:31Speaker 1: it's like an FBI warring. But before and every once
- 22:33Speaker 1: in a while you'll still see it like Interpol warning
- 22:35Speaker 1: it's again like copyright theft and piracy. Um. But yeah,
- 22:40Speaker 1: apparently they now are they've shed themselves of Nazis and
- 22:44Speaker 1: have a third term Secretary General who's busting pedophiles in Amsterdam.
- 22:51Speaker 1: And did you pretty I think that's good? I'm saying,
- 22:54Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, they've they've apparently tried to clean up
- 22:57Speaker 1: their image a lot since those days. It's crazy, man um.
- 23:00Speaker 1: And you did you hear about the executive order Obama
- 23:03Speaker 1: signed and oh nine, it was pretty controversial among conservatives
- 23:07Speaker 1: because little background. The International Organization and Immunities Act in
- 23:13Speaker 1: ninety five was signed into law, and basically that meant
- 23:17Speaker 1: the president could say certain organizations international organizations that worked
- 23:22Speaker 1: in the US are exempted from certain things like taxes,
- 23:25Speaker 1: search and sees or laws. And pretty much every president
- 23:28Speaker 1: has said you can be a part of this, like
- 23:30Speaker 1: the Red Cross Reagan UH in nineteen eighty three included
- 23:36Speaker 1: interpoll Um as part of that group. Songs like four
- 23:42Speaker 1: different sections dealing with property taxes, social security, federal taxes, customs, duties,
- 23:49Speaker 1: and UH having property and assets searched and confiscated then
- 23:54Speaker 1: and O nine, Obama said those four things now you're
- 23:58Speaker 1: immune from as well, so you have full immunity Interpoll
- 24:02Speaker 1: does in the United States from these things. And conservatives
- 24:06Speaker 1: got up in arms about, you know, the fact that
- 24:08Speaker 1: Obama had signed this. They tend to get up in
- 24:11Speaker 1: army anything he signed, like his his dinner check. Uh.
- 24:17Speaker 1: But then people rallied back and said, well, you know,
- 24:20Speaker 1: I thought you wanted someone tough on crime, and he's
- 24:22Speaker 1: basically saying Interpoll has more rights to do their thing
- 24:26Speaker 1: in the United States. So which way do you want it?
- 24:29Speaker 1: Or do you just want to complain about everything that
- 24:31Speaker 1: he does? Uh? And the Obama administration said that, you
- 24:34Speaker 1: know what, this really didn't give them any more free
- 24:38Speaker 1: reign than Reagan had already given them an eighty three.
- 24:41Speaker 1: It is sort of finished up what he started. So
- 24:45Speaker 1: who knows, regardless regardless of which side you sit on
- 24:48Speaker 1: on the political aisle, Obama is the new Reagan the
- 24:52Speaker 1: end you got any more? Uh. Some successes. You talked
- 24:57Speaker 1: about the tsunami in two thousand four, UM, and they
- 25:02Speaker 1: your pedophile scenario. It's pretty big, not yours thirty countries,
- 25:06Speaker 1: that's pretty huge. UM. They helped identify and capture a
- 25:13Speaker 1: Serbian war criminal, Milan Lukic Luci Luke. I bet it's
- 25:18Speaker 1: lukach Uh in Argentina, coordinating between Argentina and Chile and
- 25:25Speaker 1: uh Bosnia Herzegovina. Yeah. Um, and let's see. Uh. They
- 25:32Speaker 1: they also had one, Um you remember the Madrid train bombings. Man,
- 25:36Speaker 1: I had forgotten about those ninety people. Um, and they
- 25:41Speaker 1: managed to catch at least one guy. They they found
- 25:45Speaker 1: twenty one guilty, but the interpoll called at least one
- 25:47Speaker 1: guy through coordination between Belgrade, Baghdad and Madrid offices. And
- 25:53Speaker 1: did you know the twenty one people who were found
- 25:55Speaker 1: guilty of that got to combine forty thousand years in prison. Really, yeah,
- 26:00Speaker 1: he'll probably never get out. No, no, I don't think
- 26:04Speaker 1: they're gonna get out. And then grabs Her pointed this
- 26:06Speaker 1: one out. A response team obtained and disseminated fingerprints and
- 26:10Speaker 1: photographs of Abu Musab al al Zarkawi. Yeah, which sounds
- 26:15Speaker 1: kind of whatever. But then you're like, oh, yeah, how
- 26:18Speaker 1: would you get that guys? I guess yeah, I thought
- 26:20Speaker 1: the same thing, and then I thought twice. I was like, now,
- 26:22Speaker 1: I guess that is a pretty big deal. It's worth mentiny. Yeah. Sure,
- 26:26Speaker 1: I didn't find a lot of stuff though that searched
- 26:28Speaker 1: for more. Yeah, same here. And I think they're sort
- 26:30Speaker 1: of behind the scenes that they're like, we're not gonna
- 26:32Speaker 1: have any big arrests because we don't do that. Um,
- 26:36Speaker 1: but we're involved in a lot of those on the
- 26:38Speaker 1: back end on their website, UM, which is a pretty cool,
- 26:42Speaker 1: user friendly website. Agreed. It's like, here's a lot of
- 26:44Speaker 1: information that's very vague. Yeah, like we have two kinds
- 26:48Speaker 1: of response teams, criminal and disaster, and that's all we're
- 26:50Speaker 1: gonna say about that. That kind of thing. And you know,
- 26:53Speaker 1: I'm interested to hear if anyone knows anymore about their controversies.
- 26:57Speaker 1: I'm curious, does your dad work at Interpoll? We want
- 27:00Speaker 1: to know, Um, you got anything else? So if you
- 27:05Speaker 1: want to learn more about inter Poll and and read
- 27:07Speaker 1: a very glowing review of their life and work, very glossy,
- 27:12Speaker 1: whitewashed review, UM, you can type in interpol I N
- 27:16Speaker 1: T E R P O L. And did we say
- 27:18Speaker 1: where they got the name? I don't think we did.
- 27:20Speaker 1: I don't think so. So with the advent of telegraph communications,
- 27:26Speaker 1: they're like man we need to uh, we need to
- 27:29Speaker 1: shorten this or else people aren't gonna waste the money
- 27:32Speaker 1: with Western Union talking about us, so they shorten their
- 27:35Speaker 1: name to Interpol. Instead of the longer I c OP.
- 27:40Speaker 1: They should just call i CP. Yeah, I COP. Yeah yeah, Well,
- 27:45Speaker 1: don't type I guess you could type I COP into
- 27:47Speaker 1: the search probably some mac Apple app now that allows
- 27:52Speaker 1: you to like make citizens arrest. Um, that's a good one. Thanks,
- 27:58Speaker 1: we should go make that. Um. Well, yeah, type I
- 28:01Speaker 1: COP in the search bar. How stuff works dot com?
- 28:03Speaker 1: And I said search bar, It just didn't you know it,
- 28:06Speaker 1: which means it's time for listener now, Josh, I'm gonna
- 28:11Speaker 1: call this uh uhm. A brewer for Anheuser Busch. Wow,
- 28:15Speaker 1: it's a big, big time one of the big daddies. Hey, guys,
- 28:18Speaker 1: just finished listening to the Beer podcast and felt compelled
- 28:21Speaker 1: to write. I used to live in Atlanta and missed
- 28:24Speaker 1: the Beer Senior, a dream of the brick store pub
- 28:26Speaker 1: every third night. I'm a beer geek homebrewer, and also
- 28:29Speaker 1: happened to now brew beer for Annheuser Busch UM also
- 28:33Speaker 1: now known as a b in Bev. As was mentioned
- 28:37Speaker 1: in the podcast, it's a pretty sweet gig that all
- 28:40Speaker 1: started for me by homebrewing in my Atlanta apartment closet. Crazy. UM.
- 28:46Speaker 1: I enjoyed the podcast a lot, and you were pretty
- 28:47Speaker 1: spot on with the info and brewing one on one,
- 28:50Speaker 1: except for the mention of forced carbonation. UM, I have
- 28:53Speaker 1: worked because I think we said that that the big
- 28:56Speaker 1: breweries like forced carbonate everything not so UM. I've worked
- 29:00Speaker 1: a couple of crap berries aside from my current job
- 29:02Speaker 1: at Anheuser Busch, and I had never seen this before.
- 29:06Speaker 1: I can't speak for the other big guys, but our
- 29:09Speaker 1: beer at ANH Anheuser Busch is made pretty much the
- 29:12Speaker 1: same way as other small craft beers. We just have
- 29:15Speaker 1: much larger equipment and more automation at Anheuser Busch. After
- 29:20Speaker 1: primary fermentation, our beers are loggered in a tank for
- 29:23Speaker 1: as long as twenty one days in the case of
- 29:27Speaker 1: the famous Budweiser. I've heard of that twenty one days. Um.
- 29:32Speaker 1: During the aging process, the beer is still fermating slightly
- 29:35Speaker 1: and builds up c O two in the tank. This
- 29:37Speaker 1: is how our beer is carbonated, all natural, so similar
- 29:40Speaker 1: to the priming homebrew and bottles and uh that's it,
- 29:45Speaker 1: he says, have a four twenty on me and I'll
- 29:47Speaker 1: pick up the tab next time in Atlanta. No, you
- 29:50Speaker 1: send us the money first, and then we'll go have
- 29:52Speaker 1: a four twenty and you That's what I say, David.
- 29:54Speaker 1: Thanks David. We appreciate in advance the money you'll send
- 29:57Speaker 1: us for our four twenties. Yes, and also I wanted
- 30:01Speaker 1: to point out when we were talking about our favorite beers,
- 30:03Speaker 1: I was sort of snobby with all my I p
- 30:06Speaker 1: a s and all that stuff. I do love all that,
- 30:07Speaker 1: but the triumvirate for me has been my staple since college,
- 30:13Speaker 1: which is Budweiser, Miller Highlight, and the Pats. I like, yeah,
- 30:19Speaker 1: I like all those. I'm fun with those, and I
- 30:21Speaker 1: don't drink those as much anymore because I love the
- 30:23Speaker 1: taste of like a delicious I p A. But I
- 30:26Speaker 1: certainly don't turn my nose up at a Budweiser. Okay, well,
- 30:28Speaker 1: then you're definitely not a beer snobble, No, not, you
- 30:31Speaker 1: like the drinking poop? Remember those kids in college? Did
- 30:34Speaker 1: you know anybody in college you could like recite what
- 30:37Speaker 1: it said on the neck label of the Budweiser bottle,
- 30:41Speaker 1: like what it says the writing. I didn't know anyone.
- 30:44Speaker 1: It's like, this is Budweiser, the finest beer ever produced
- 30:47Speaker 1: to Bud. I used to go to school with kids
- 30:50Speaker 1: who could recite that like by heart, and I always
- 30:52Speaker 1: thought it was kind of sad. Yeah, I didn't even know.
- 30:54Speaker 1: I've never even read the bottle. It's easier if you
- 30:56Speaker 1: have like a beach towel because the lettering is way
- 30:59Speaker 1: bigger and see. Oh and I also got called out
- 31:03Speaker 1: by a fans for being a hipster for drinking HAPs
- 31:05Speaker 1: and I was like, dude, I've been drinking PBR since
- 31:09Speaker 1: like and it amused me when it became a hipster beer.
- 31:14Speaker 1: I was like, really, it blows my mind how much
- 31:17Speaker 1: we share ourselves and how much we have been the
- 31:19Speaker 1: four plus episodes, and there's so many people out there
- 31:22Speaker 1: who do not know us at all. So um, I
- 31:28Speaker 1: guess if you want to offer us money for beer,
- 31:30Speaker 1: that's cool, or you can just send us beer. We're
- 31:33Speaker 1: not done with that call out yet. I'm not a
- 31:34Speaker 1: shame over money. Sure, you can tweet to us to
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