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Coordinator's Corner: Utes OC Kevin McGiven on beating his former team USU, Improving the run game, Iowa St tomorrow + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Let's dive into this week's matchup in the Coordinator's Corner
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  Speaker 1: of the Sean O'Connell Show. OC chats with the coordinators
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  Speaker 1: every week of the Utah football season. On your home
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  Speaker 2: Coordinator's Corner time here on the Sean O'Connell Show, and
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  Speaker 2: this week we get to talk about the mastermind, of
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  Speaker 2: the Utah offense. Kevin McGiven more affectionately referred to as
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  Speaker 2: Mac G joins us once again here on your home
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  Speaker 2: of the use coach.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 3: How are you? Good, good. How's things going, man? Great.
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  Speaker 2: You got a three and oh football team that makes
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  Speaker 2: my job pretty easy. 33, zero victory over the Utah
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  Speaker 2: state Aggies, obviously a program, a team, a coaching staff. that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, well, uh, just, you know, your initial thoughts on,
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  Speaker 2: on that performance from your offense. And then we'll get
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  Speaker 2: to some more of the details here, but 33, zero,
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  Speaker 2: not much for us to complain about.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Um, no, obviously, um, just coming out with when, and,
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  Speaker 3: and the, the three and oh, start always, always difficult
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  Speaker 3: to play against, um, you know, former team and coaching
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  Speaker 3: staff just with, with player players, you know, and, um,
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  Speaker 3: and coaches that you want to see successful and, you know, the, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I think probably helpful in terms of our understanding going
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  Speaker 3: into that game of, of what that battle was going
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  Speaker 3: to be like in terms of, um, the culture that
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  Speaker 3: I know they have up there. Bronco is to me,
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  Speaker 3: one of the best in the, in the profession, um,
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  Speaker 3: at establishing that just a great leader of men and
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  Speaker 3: was fortunate enough to work with him for a year.
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  Speaker 3: And then, and then even understanding, um, Nick how a
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  Speaker 3: little bit, you know, never game plan for when, um, necessarily, but, uh,
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  Speaker 3: Got to see how he runs his defense and just
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  Speaker 3: can't say enough about Nick Howell. He's an unbelievable defense
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  Speaker 3: coordinator and had those guys ready to play. I knew
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  Speaker 3: they would be, but had a good plan for us
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  Speaker 3: that made some things happen. difficult as, as, as we
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  Speaker 3: went along, they were making a certain everything, but, but
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  Speaker 3: glad we were able to come out of it with
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  Speaker 3: a win.
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  Speaker 2: You did come out of it with a win and
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  Speaker 2: obviously you had a nice, a good, strong start to
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  Speaker 2: this game. Got on the board early and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: 16 points in the first quarter, 10 in the second quarter.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to the second half here in just a second,
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  Speaker 2: but the sort of hot start, a successful first drive,
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  Speaker 2: the scoring drive and all that, did you feel like
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  Speaker 2: it went sort of according to plan? Were you getting
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  Speaker 2: any looks that you didn't expect, and did you have
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  Speaker 2: to adjust on the fly, or was that early script
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  Speaker 2: kind of according to what you hoped it would be?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think early on kind of going as planned,
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  Speaker 3: but there were some things in there that were even
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  Speaker 3: within the first drive and subsequent drives in the first
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  Speaker 3: half where we had gotten off schedule a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: because I think even that first score might've been on
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  Speaker 3: the third down, like a third and long. And so,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that part of it where you're able to
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  Speaker 3: capitalize in the third down situation, but even getting to
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  Speaker 3: that point and kind of been atypical thus far because
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  Speaker 3: we were in third down a lot more in this
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  Speaker 3: game than we had been in the previous games. And
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  Speaker 3: so there were some things in there definitely that we
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  Speaker 3: had to earn and getting off schedule a little bit
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  Speaker 3: where that's not typically where, you know, now you're going
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  Speaker 3: to the situational menu and it's not necessarily on schedule
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  Speaker 3: or on script, you know, when things are going really,
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  Speaker 3: really well and it's just– First down, second down, first down,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and not getting to those situations, then it's
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  Speaker 3: a little bit easier for the game plan to unfold.
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  Speaker 2: Braden Pagan had a monster game as he's shown us.
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  Speaker 2: He's very capable of doing eight catches, 122 yards, a
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  Speaker 2: couple of touchdowns. And of course it's against his former
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  Speaker 2: team and, you know, former teammates and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: And it seemed like there was mostly friendly banter going
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  Speaker 2: back and forth, but was this, you know, was that
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  Speaker 2: part of the game plan coming in? I, I, I don't,
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  Speaker 2: I don't picture like, Oh, let's go out and make
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  Speaker 2: sure Braden Pagan gets extra work against the Aggies.
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  Speaker 4: But man, he really went off.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I, I think, I think you said it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, BP is a, is a focal point of
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  Speaker 3: the offense, you know, but it, it's kind of one
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  Speaker 3: of those things where you can get off track with,
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  Speaker 3: with a lot of the guys we have, you can
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  Speaker 3: get off track a little bit in, in terms of
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  Speaker 3: who is getting touches and opportunities. You, you, you really
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  Speaker 3: like to see the distribution and I've been pleased with
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  Speaker 3: that up to this point that a lot of guys
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  Speaker 3: have gotten opportunities, you know, either receivers getting targets or
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  Speaker 3: guys getting carries in different ways. And, and things like that. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and so in the last game, you know,
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  Speaker 3: there weren't as many that went deep his way. And,
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  Speaker 3: and so, you know, it wasn't, it was nice to
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  Speaker 3: see him get in some isolated situations. There was, there
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  Speaker 3: was an intent there, I think, based on some of,
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  Speaker 3: some of the looks that we were seeing in terms
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  Speaker 3: of getting him access throws that, you know, we could
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  Speaker 3: throw underneath them and kind of buy our time a
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  Speaker 3: little bit to, to be able to create some opportunities
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  Speaker 3: for him to, you know, throw the ball, push the
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  Speaker 3: ball down the field on some verticals and things like that.
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  Speaker 3: But we're able to get him involved in some ways with,
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  Speaker 3: with access throws off, off of different looks that they
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  Speaker 3: got him involved early. So, and I know he was,
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  Speaker 3: he was very motivated to do so.
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  Speaker 2: The, your defense obviously played incredibly well. Also when you
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  Speaker 2: blank an opponent, it hasn't happened against an FBS opponent
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  Speaker 2: at the university of Utah or since 2019, and you
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  Speaker 2: guys were able to pull that off. When the defense
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  Speaker 2: is humming that way and stopping the opposition for putting
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  Speaker 2: any points on the board or even getting across midfield
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  Speaker 2: in a couple of situations, how much does it do
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  Speaker 2: for you in play calling?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there is a comfortability when your defense
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  Speaker 3: is playing that well, and it's so fun to, even
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  Speaker 3: sometimes between series, I catch myself just kind of looking
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  Speaker 3: up at the defense and watching them when I probably
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  Speaker 3: should be like planning, planning the next drive, but just, um,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the, the culture that we, that we have
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  Speaker 3: and the way, the way our, our defense plays, the
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  Speaker 3: way coach Swanee calls it and the aggressiveness it's, it's really,
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  Speaker 3: really fun to watch. Um, and there is a comfort
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  Speaker 3: level there. I don't ever want to put myself in
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  Speaker 3: a position where you feel like you're having to rely
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  Speaker 3: on the defense, but But knowing that the defense is
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  Speaker 3: playing well and if you get into a situation where
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  Speaker 3: now you're playing a little bit of field position battle,
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  Speaker 3: things like that. But I think there's always an intent
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  Speaker 3: to play complementary football based on... what's happening with the
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  Speaker 3: defense and, and, and what you got to do offensively
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  Speaker 3: just to ensure wins, you know, sometimes to ensure situations
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  Speaker 3: where they can, they can stay off the field a
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  Speaker 3: little bit, but you know, when they're out there and,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they're getting on and off early, you feel
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  Speaker 3: like you can be pretty aggressive.
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  Speaker 2: You were able to bust a couple of big runs,
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  Speaker 2: obviously Daniel Bray's long one stands way. Sean Parker gets
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  Speaker 2: called back, which what a heartbreaker. But then, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it was like it was some tough work to gain
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  Speaker 2: yards on the ground as we thought it might be
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  Speaker 2: against this Utah State defense. Now that you've had a
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  Speaker 2: chance to look back at the film, what do you
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  Speaker 2: guys need to do to be a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: efficient running the ball, especially between the tackles? And maybe
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  Speaker 2: what what is the plan moving forward against an Iowa
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  Speaker 2: State defense that is obviously going to have watched this
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  Speaker 2: film also?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was I think it was good
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  Speaker 3: preparation in terms of the again, I had mentioned it
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  Speaker 3: the the culture that I know Utah state has and
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  Speaker 3: the physicality that they play with. And especially those, those guys.
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  Speaker 3: up front and in the box, but they, but even
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  Speaker 3: their back end, I thought they did a good job,
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  Speaker 3: really good job coming downhill and, and, and making open
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  Speaker 3: field tackles. I thought they tackled really, really well. So,
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  Speaker 3: so even when we caught a crease and got loose, um,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't necessarily going very far when it, when it
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  Speaker 3: got to the third level, because these guys were, were
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  Speaker 3: tackling really well. But, um, you know, I think a
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  Speaker 3: lot of the issues just, um, you know, some, some
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  Speaker 3: communication may be coming off late on some, some combinations, but, um,
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  Speaker 3: you know, some communication on, on targeting that we've got
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  Speaker 3: to get cleaned up a little bit where there were
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  Speaker 3: some opportunities there were, you know, when, when you're, when
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  Speaker 3: you're looking at it, just structurally where you have a,
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  Speaker 3: at least an efficient run, potentially explosive runs. And, and
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  Speaker 3: because of some of the communication that didn't, it didn't
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  Speaker 3: go anywhere. Um, so a little bit disheartening, but things
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  Speaker 3: that we got to get cleaned up that way with
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  Speaker 3: our communication upfront. And then, and then just, um, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think we were physical at the point of attack
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  Speaker 3: in that game. We got to finish a little bit better,
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  Speaker 3: you know, cause that again, Utah state did a really
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  Speaker 3: good job, you know, just shedding initial contact and then,
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  Speaker 3: and then playing to the football. So we just got
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  Speaker 3: to get stickier on some of those blocks.
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  Speaker 2: The communication aspect, as you, you guys have been rotating
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  Speaker 2: on the offensive line and that can make it difficult,
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  Speaker 2: but also you want five, six, seven, eight guys to
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  Speaker 2: be able to have like true starter reps and before
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  Speaker 2: you solidify whatever this final five is going to be. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's, there's flux throughout a season based on
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  Speaker 2: health and whatever else. But if you had to like
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  Speaker 2: weigh out what their, the physical ability, the, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like the actual gameplay and the, the smoothness in which
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  Speaker 2: these guys are able to communicate the cohesiveness and in
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  Speaker 2: which an individual fits into the overall group, how much
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  Speaker 2: will that play into people earning a spot and maintaining
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  Speaker 2: a spot on the starting offensive line?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's been a little bit of a
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  Speaker 3: focal point going into this week, going into conference play,
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  Speaker 3: going on the road, things like that, as opposed to
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  Speaker 3: having a, having a constant rotation, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 3: trying to get settled on the, the first five this
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  Speaker 3: week and, and roll with those roll with those guys. But, um,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it does, does make it trickier when you
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  Speaker 3: have a couple guys out that you had planned on
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  Speaker 3: early and then, you know, and so... you may have
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  Speaker 3: a backup in there, and then you've got a backup
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  Speaker 3: playing pretty well, and then all of a sudden you've
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  Speaker 3: got a battle on your hands. You have someone getting healthy,
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  Speaker 3: and so that's been a little bit tricky in terms
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  Speaker 3: of being a little bit of a revolving door, but
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  Speaker 3: I think we're working toward getting that stabilized a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: and I think as we do that, seeing more chemistry
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  Speaker 3: up there with guys that are giving us both physical play,
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  Speaker 3: dynamic play, and and being able to communicate and gel
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  Speaker 3: and have chemistry.
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  Speaker 2: How is Kelvin Obot grading out, Coach, in the first
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  Speaker 2: three games? Obviously, true freshman, offensive line is one of
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  Speaker 2: the tougher spots to come in and be an immediate
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  Speaker 2: contributor for obvious reasons. And we've seen him at guard
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  Speaker 2: and also at tackle. How is he adapting to the
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  Speaker 2: college game, and how is he grading out, especially in
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  Speaker 2: those reps with the ones?
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  Speaker 3: I think Kelvin is on a really good trajectory. Having
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  Speaker 3: to be a swing guy early on as a true freshman,
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  Speaker 3: that can be a little bit tricky. Even playing one
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  Speaker 3: spot as a true freshman, getting in there can be difficult.
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  Speaker 3: He's got the strength for it. He's got the skill
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  Speaker 3: set for it. He's shown a lot of twitch and
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  Speaker 3: very dynamic when he's when he's in there very explosive,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when, when you see fronts that are moving
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  Speaker 3: a lot. And then I think with our offense where,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of moving parts to it
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  Speaker 3: where the picture can change on you a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's as, as a young player, it's a
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  Speaker 3: little bit tough to, you know, be disciplined with your eyes,
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  Speaker 3: just be consistent with your footwork. And, you know, you
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  Speaker 3: start chasing ghosts a little bit until you have that
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  Speaker 3: game experience. But I think the more and more experience
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  Speaker 3: he gets with, with seeing those things, you know, cause
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  Speaker 3: it's not any obvious lack of, physical capability but once
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  Speaker 3: he gets used to seeing those things more and more
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  Speaker 3: then he's just going to continue to get better and better.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin mcgibbon is our guest here on the sean o'connell
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  Speaker 2: show coordinators corner with the oc this week as they
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  Speaker 2: get ready to take on iowa state in the first
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  Speaker 2: conference game of the year uh you mentioned it already
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  Speaker 2: it's a road game uh that changes you know the
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  Speaker 2: crowd dynamic when your offense is on the field instead
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  Speaker 2: of a polite silence to facilitate communication, right? There's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a bunch of raucous farmers out there trying
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  Speaker 2: to make it hard for Devin Dampier to communicate and
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  Speaker 2: hard for the offensive line to hear claps and snap
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  Speaker 2: counts and everything else.
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  Speaker 4: So how do you adjust as an offensive coordinator?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think, um, There's a couple factors going
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  Speaker 3: into this game. One of them could be a weather
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  Speaker 3: component on Saturday that we're looking at and having to
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  Speaker 3: plan for. Once you're not at home and all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden the crowd is against you, I think one
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  Speaker 3: thing is, is that our, our culture has to continue
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  Speaker 3: to show up, um, going on the road, but then
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  Speaker 3: just your, your focus and, and, and your discipline, especially
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  Speaker 3: if you get in situations where you may need to
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  Speaker 3: be on a, on a silent count and things like that,
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  Speaker 3: where you're working on that throughout the week. But again,
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  Speaker 3: when there's a lot of pre-snap movement to your offense, um,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that, you know, the, the timing elements involved
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  Speaker 3: with that take, take a lot of work. And so
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  Speaker 3: spending some time on those things, um, this week for,
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  Speaker 3: you know, whatever we could be up against in that game.
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  Speaker 2: Does the Kevin McGiven playbook change in any meaningful way
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  Speaker 2: if it's a wet game?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I've always kind of approached those, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we're in here and we put a plan together to
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  Speaker 3: attack the defense first and foremost and not necessarily attack
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  Speaker 3: or compensate for the weather. You have to have that
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  Speaker 3: in the back of your mind and as a, as
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  Speaker 3: a plan, but I usually like to go into those
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  Speaker 3: things and, and try to let the plan unfold until
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  Speaker 3: the weather tells you that you can't and, and you're
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  Speaker 3: having issues with that, with those things. And then, and
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  Speaker 3: then start to make the adjustments, you know, to whatever,
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  Speaker 3: whatever plan B is at that point. But until, until,
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  Speaker 3: Until that becomes a factor, you know, going in with
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  Speaker 3: the mentality that we're going to try to let the
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  Speaker 3: plan unfold.
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  Speaker 2: Before we let you go, just another minute or two
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  Speaker 2: here with Kevin McGiven. I want to talk about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you have this embarrassment of riches and all these
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  Speaker 2: potential weapons, I want to talk about what these guys
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  Speaker 2: are doing for you or have to do for you
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  Speaker 2: without the ball in their hand. Devin Dampier was in
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  Speaker 2: here and we talked about how way Sean Parker, this
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  Speaker 2: was not a game against Utah state where, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he was, He was as productive on the stat sheet
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  Speaker 2: as maybe he would like to be, you guys would
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  Speaker 2: like him to be. But we got like this huge
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  Speaker 2: highlight reel block out of him coming back across the
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  Speaker 2: formation and just planting a rusher.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it was a great hit.
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  Speaker 2: And Devin kept saying like, man, he does really great
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  Speaker 2: things even when he doesn't have the ball in his hands.
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  Speaker 2: And I imagine that's important for everyone so that they
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  Speaker 2: can get the ball in their hands.
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  Speaker 4: They can earn the opportunity. No block, no rock, as
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  Speaker 4: you coaches like to say, right.
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  Speaker 2: But I just wanted to give you a little space
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  Speaker 2: to talk about guys like way, Sean, when they're not
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  Speaker 2: getting 30 touches a game, how they're still contributing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And that, that can be a, that can be
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  Speaker 3: a frustrating, frustrating part of it. And again, something that, that,
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  Speaker 3: we have to pay attention to. I have to pay
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  Speaker 3: attention to because when you're playing option football, like we've
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  Speaker 3: talked about before, the ball can be distributed and then
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  Speaker 3: you lose. Sometimes you lose track of those things based on,
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  Speaker 3: you know, quarterback decision-making or what the defense is giving you.
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  Speaker 3: And so, you know, you can end up taking opportunities
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  Speaker 3: out of, out of guys hands where, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: weren't able to get him quite as much involved in
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  Speaker 3: the past game as, as we had in previous weeks.
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  Speaker 3: And then, and then some of the carries, you know, we're,
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  Speaker 3: we're a little more sparse, but then he took it
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  Speaker 3: upon himself to make an impact. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 3: as a, as a captain and a leader of our team,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's not just leading by example, but just
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  Speaker 3: the fact that he immediately goes there, how, you know, how,
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  Speaker 3: you know, how can I impact this team and, and,
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  Speaker 3: you know, whatever my, whatever my role has to be.
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  Speaker 3: And then, and so you just see him start doing
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  Speaker 3: things that are, you know, quite frankly, not, I wouldn't
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: say they're normal unless you have a really vibrant culture.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: And if you have a player that takes it upon
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: themselves to be unselfish like that, but, but I think
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: that's something that you're seeing infiltrate the program because you
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: see with receivers more and more down the field, the
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: one that Daniel Bray broke, we had multiple guys that
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: were sprinting to get out in front of that thing and,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: and you know, just getting guys away or make, make blocks.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: You had Ricky Johnson spring him. You had, Braden Payton's
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: friend down the field, he had bird off of a
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: jet action over the top that was sprinting downfield and
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: got to the party. And so that was a really
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: good picture as well. But you're seeing that continually with
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: receivers blocking downfield, with the offensive line breaking the stack
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: to get to the pile. And so that's one of
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: the things I've been really pleased with in the first
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: three games is just seeing that culture show up and
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: guys take it upon themselves to do that and play
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: without the football.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: The last thing before we let you go, we're trying
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: to come up with a clever name for your two
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: quarterback system. And McDouble was one of the options because
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: it's McGiven's two quarterback system.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: What do you think of McDouble?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Take, take, take that and run and run with it. Whatever,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: whatever you want to do. I mean, when I think
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: of McDouble, I, you know, think of going to get
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: the double cheeseburger.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think it evokes that for all of us.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: So it's like, Maybe not appropriate for two premium athletes,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: but they don't have to sign off on it.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: You do. Yeah, we haven't quite named it yet. We
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: have our different personnel package names and stuff like that,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: but they haven't really quite named that yet. But it's
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: been fun to try to come up with stuff.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: So there's not one name for it in the playbook, like, hey,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Bird and Devin are both on the field. It's not
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: like Jumbo or the equivalent thereof.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: You know, so, so, um, I, so I will give
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: you the, I mean, just because of bird, you know,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: and then there's those, there's a hawk group and there's
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: the talent group and, and, you know, so it's based
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: on the other people that are on the field with them. Um,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: you know, but kind of those bird terms when he's
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: out there on the field that, um, that we've adopted
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: a little bit. All right.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: I like it.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: We were brainstorming last week and there was a lot of,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: what do we call this thing? There was a lot of, Hey,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: we'll call it, let's call it the spider Hawk because
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: of Let's call it, you know, we can't, someone came on.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: This one was, I think my favorite, someone came in
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: and they said, well, call it the 50 cent or
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: the half dollar offense.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Cause it's two quarters. It's two quarterbacks, you know?
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: People are getting creative with that. But yeah, it's, but,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: but it is interesting. Cause I think a lot of times,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: even when we go into a game plan, we don't
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: even have a name for something. And so it's just
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: like created. And so all of a sudden we have
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: to just come up with a name. Yeah.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Well, we're not good at calling the plays, but we're
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: going to help you brainstorm with what to call stuff
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: if you need.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Any help on that, all right?
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'll call in next time I'm searching
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Coach, appreciate your time. Good luck on the road. We'll
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: chat again soon.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, sounds good. I appreciate it.