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Draft Thoughts, Giants and Russell Wilson, and Aaron Rodgers: Good Morning Football Selects · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 2: The one player in the twenty twenty five draft that
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  Speaker 2: you think is a sure thing is who Peter kick
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  Speaker 2: it off. I'm going up to Penn State, and you're
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  Speaker 2: probably thinking of Dual Carter. I'm going as teammate Tyler Warren,
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  Speaker 2: the big tight end, the guy who does everything like
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  Speaker 2: quarterback in high school, played h back and then moved
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  Speaker 2: to tight end and basically leads Penn State in every
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  Speaker 2: offensive category that is cumunly possible and dominated.
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  Speaker 3: In college football playoffs. Top ten pick.
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  Speaker 2: For some reason, I don't have the buzz that he's
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  Speaker 2: getting Top five.
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  Speaker 3: He might when it's all said and done.
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  Speaker 2: Absolute beasts and a team leader who can do it
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  Speaker 2: both in the blocking game.
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  Speaker 3: And in the receiving game.
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  Speaker 2: The ultimate tight end coming out of college, Tyler Warren.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a sure thing in my eyes. I like it.
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  Speaker 2: It's been long ten weeks for Giants fans waiting and
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  Speaker 2: watching it went from dreams of Stafford, to dreams of
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  Speaker 2: Rogers too, then thoughts of Jameis and to now being like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, it's Russ and what version of Russ are
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  Speaker 2: we getting we get in the version of Russ that's
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  Speaker 2: the first ten weeks of last season that looked like
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  Speaker 2: a guy who was a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback, or
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  Speaker 2: the last five weeks where the Steelers offense faltered. Either way,
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  Speaker 2: it's an upgrade from last year's quarterback room. Right now
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  Speaker 2: you've got Jamis Winston and Russell Wilson, two competent quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: You leave the door open if you want to draft
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  Speaker 2: a quarterback at three. Now that means that Shador Sanders
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  Speaker 2: would likely have to fall to three, but you're not
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  Speaker 2: tied to drafting Shador Sanders. You could still get a
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  Speaker 2: franchise cornerstone and build brick by brick in. One of
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  Speaker 2: those franchise cornerstones could be Abdul Carter, it could be
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  Speaker 2: Travis Hunter. I will say this, there is very little
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  Speaker 2: sizzle or buzz around the Giants now. I mean you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about something that the Maras might not be excited about,
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  Speaker 2: which would mean being on the fifth crew on or
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  Speaker 2: being on the sixth crew on CBS opening week and
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  Speaker 2: one o'clock games every single week and not getting those
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  Speaker 2: primetime ratings, not getting everyone talking about the Giants Russell
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  Speaker 2: Wilson and Jamis Winston are competent quarterbacks. They are not
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  Speaker 2: going to have fans buying jerseys tomorrow and saying I
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  Speaker 2: need to be a part of this wave. That means
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be about the football, and it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: about the draft, whether they can get the guy or not,
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  Speaker 2: and if they want the guy or not.
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  Speaker 3: You don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: Overreach for a quarterback. We saw that in so many
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  Speaker 2: drafts before. And I look at like the Zach Wilson
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  Speaker 2: draft that the Jets were part of, and then teams
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  Speaker 2: were like, all right, we need Trey Lancet three. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: well we need to jump up and get I don't
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  Speaker 2: think you want to be desperate for a quarterback. Russell
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  Speaker 2: Wilson led a team to the playoffs last year. Whether
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  Speaker 2: you think he was great or not, he did it.
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  Speaker 2: He's confident enough. It's not gonna have anyone doing flips.
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  Speaker 2: And it might be on the New York Post front
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  Speaker 2: cover for one day, not twenty like the Rogers signing
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  Speaker 2: would have been. But they've got their two quarterbacks and
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  Speaker 2: they leave the door open if they want another one too.
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  Speaker 2: It's now like if you want to take Tyler Schuck
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  Speaker 2: who is out of louis Ville and he's a twenty
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  Speaker 2: five year old quarterback who's that Texas Tech for You
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  Speaker 2: don't have to sit the three pick. You can say, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we could draft Abdua, Carter, Travis Hunter, one of those
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  Speaker 2: two guys at three.
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  Speaker 3: They will be there.
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  Speaker 2: They have to be because if Ford's going one, one
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  Speaker 2: of those two guys are at three, and then we
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  Speaker 2: can get a guy that maybe we like as a
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  Speaker 2: rookie quarterback, but we don't have to draft him at
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  Speaker 2: three with all the pressure and the expectations. We could
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  Speaker 2: take him in the second round with the thirty fourth
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  Speaker 2: pick or the third round. That gives him that opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: I also look at the Giants when they laid out
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  Speaker 2: their chessboard. I don't think they this was a goal.
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  Speaker 2: I think Stafford, I think Rogers this is option C
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  Speaker 2: and D. So you can't be overwhelmed with joy right now.
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  Speaker 2: It's more settling than anything, especially with the fact that
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  Speaker 2: Russell was, you know, taking this tour, going to Cleveland,
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  Speaker 2: going to who's selling his wares and you're like, I
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  Speaker 2: get so. My last point is this, the Giants fan
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  Speaker 2: base has been so miserable the last few years, so
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  Speaker 2: sad everything is doom and gloom.
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  Speaker 3: You just had two of.
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  Speaker 2: The most optimistic, positive players in the entire NFL join
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  Speaker 2: that locker room and joined that quarterbacks room, where at
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  Speaker 2: the very least there is a light in there is
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  Speaker 2: a positivity with Russell Wilson and Jameis wins and these
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  Speaker 2: are two guys who have.
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  Speaker 3: Never had a bad day in their lives.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the carousel was going around and around and around,
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  Speaker 2: and there was a couple of seats available and now
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  Speaker 2: there's really just one. And I don't think this is
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  Speaker 2: because the Giants were like, you know what, We've had enough,
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  Speaker 2: We're going I think the Giants got the message and
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  Speaker 2: the writing was on the wall that Aaron Rodgers wasn't
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  Speaker 2: coming to them, So they were like, let's pivot. We'll
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  Speaker 2: do Jamis and then we'll do Russ for a combined
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  Speaker 2: cost that'll be way less than it would have been had.
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  Speaker 3: They brought in Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 2: But there is a moment of sadness here because I
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  Speaker 2: think the Aaron Rodgers Giants thing was at least tantalizing
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  Speaker 2: from a New York City perspective, and what it could
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  Speaker 2: have meant and to have Aaron Rodgers throwing to neighbors.
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  Speaker 2: But now there's really just one place left and that's Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: The other place left is Rogers exploring other things and
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  Speaker 2: other opportunities outside of football, so as retirement or the Steelers.
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  Speaker 3: You know, what's the hold up? What's the way?
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  Speaker 2: We mentioned Pat McAfee last last hour to Cam Hayward.
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  Speaker 2: He's got that big event next Wednesday, I believe in
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  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh that he's hosting, Like, is Rogers gonna do a
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  Speaker 2: big announcement? Is this gonna be one of these deals
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  Speaker 2: where Rogers unveils us to a crowd of Steelers fans
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  Speaker 2: that has.
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  Speaker 3: A big live event in Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that Rogers may show up and be like, is
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  Speaker 2: that not a great way to like unveil this thing.
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  Speaker 3: It might not be because what if the Steelers fans boom?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually fascinating. Like Flourio put a poll out
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  Speaker 2: there and he's like, Steelers fans, straight up, you want
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  Speaker 2: this or not? And I think most of you at
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  Speaker 2: this point, I think it is. It's like where what
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  Speaker 2: are we doing? Otherwise?
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  Speaker 3: Right now?
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  Speaker 2: If you ask them at the start of the you
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  Speaker 2: know they started the whole free agency think maybe not,
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  Speaker 2: but like at this point I think Rogers to the Steelers,
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  Speaker 2: whether it makes sense or not, from both sides, it
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  Speaker 2: seems like it's the most natural fit and it might
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  Speaker 2: be the last fit unless there's a wildcar team. I
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  Speaker 2: have said this team time and time again, and no
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  Speaker 2: one has has has has backed me up.
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  Speaker 3: And knowing that, I can't wait, what was it? If
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  Speaker 3: you're the New Orleans Saints.
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  Speaker 2: Do you not make a play like you got Derek
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  Speaker 2: Carr there? Do you not say let's just go for
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe that's two veteran quarterbacks who are
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  Speaker 2: a brand new coach and a brand new coach with
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  Speaker 2: Calm Moore, But like, I just think that's a market
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  Speaker 2: that could use like some buzz, and it gets.
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  Speaker 3: A guy that's a veteran quarterback for a.
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  Speaker 2: Team that's actually filled with veterans, Like the Saints are
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  Speaker 2: all veteran guys.
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  Speaker 3: Now, it's not like Alvin kamaras a second year guy.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like, you know, you've.
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  Speaker 2: Got that defense with Tomorrow Davis and of course our
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  Speaker 2: guy Cam Jordan, but like they are veteran guys all
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  Speaker 2: up and down that Saints team. Do you not bring
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  Speaker 2: in Rodgers and try to win the NFC South? But
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  Speaker 2: maybe they just tied to Derek Cole.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going way off the board here talking about Saints
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  Speaker 3: and Rogers.
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  Speaker 2: But you're trying to ask me to do some heavy
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  Speaker 2: lifting here, and that's just me speculating throwing darts. There's
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  Speaker 2: been no buzz around that one at all. That's two
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  Speaker 2: things for you. Little nuggets from the combine that I
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  Speaker 2: have in my notebook that I'll like bring out here. Abuka,
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  Speaker 2: the first guy right there at number seventeen, who is
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  Speaker 2: amazing throughout the college football playoffs. I asked a longtime
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  Speaker 2: GM who I've become very close to when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to draft stuff and boards and all that.
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  Speaker 3: All right, straight up best interview, the best.
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  Speaker 2: Person you met in the most Likable prize a buc
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State. And that same GM a few years back
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  Speaker 2: when I asked him that same questions, I always go
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  Speaker 2: through the same list of questions, told me Terry McLaurin
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State. So you're talking about great leaders, great men,
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  Speaker 2: that is who you're getting in that wide receiver. And
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  Speaker 2: then the guy who didn't work out yesterday, Judkins out
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  Speaker 2: of Ohio State is one of the most awesome players
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  Speaker 2: in this draft. And what I love about him was
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  Speaker 2: ran for sixteen hundred yards of the freshman at all
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  Speaker 2: Miss sixteen hundred yards in the SEC, won Freshman of
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  Speaker 2: the Year, then straight because nil portal World. It's like, Blach,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta get out.
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  Speaker 3: I guess after.
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  Speaker 2: Two years of dominating the SEC, he spends one year
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  Speaker 2: at Ohio State and goes and wins the National Championship,
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  Speaker 2: runs for less yards because he's sharing carries.
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  Speaker 3: But in every interview that he gave.
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  Speaker 2: When I was asking questions, he was like, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: just wanted to win the CHIP.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to win the chip.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe there were some chips A dollars signed to
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  Speaker 2: it that helped as well.
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  Speaker 3: But if not, like old Miss was one of these.
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  Speaker 2: Mid majors, he left the SEC where he was dominating,
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  Speaker 2: and that when dominated the Big ten, it was probably
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  Speaker 2: the best player on that team when they needed most
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  Speaker 2: in those big moments. So I look at both Judkins
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  Speaker 2: and I look at Abuka, and I think both those
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  Speaker 2: guys our first round picks, and both those guys are
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  Speaker 2: going to be superstars in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Peter, how do you feel about Ashton Genty in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's this guy's the limit. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: you think about every year it's like here's b Jon
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  Speaker 2: Robinson and then you know one other year it's.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna be here's Adrian Peterson. There are these few names
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  Speaker 3: that are like we've been.
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  Speaker 2: Hearing about Geny all season and the numbers are outstanding.
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  Speaker 2: It's working to make an immediate impact because I think
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  Speaker 2: he is a top ten pick, But like, what team
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  Speaker 2: can he lift on his shoulders and say I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna get you there?
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  Speaker 2: When you think about it, if he's the number one
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  Speaker 2: pure player in this draft, regardless of position, if you're
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  Speaker 2: Cleveland at two, or if you're the you know, the
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  Speaker 2: giant Tep Tracy, I guess. But like you start thinking
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  Speaker 2: about these teams in the top five and it's like
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  Speaker 2: this is not the greatest top to bottom as far
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  Speaker 2: as like these, why not just say this is the
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  Speaker 2: year I'm just gonna take a running back like the
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  Speaker 2: old school days where you would take a Marshall Fulk
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  Speaker 2: in the top five.
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  Speaker 3: Or you would go and just go and Leonard fourte
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  Speaker 3: rab a.
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  Speaker 2: Leonard Fournette if you have to, and you're like top ten,
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking a running back. I think I think this
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  Speaker 2: might be one of the shockers of the draft if
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  Speaker 2: he goes I don't know, five to Jacksonville, you know,
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  Speaker 2: top four to New England, like six of the Raiders
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  Speaker 2: sticks to the Raiders, like to me, the sky's the
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  Speaker 2: limit and I'm excited to see where he ends up
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  Speaker 2: the nickname. Last night, Russell and cr are sitting a
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  Speaker 2: courtside like there was some buzz and there was some action.
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  Speaker 3: Russell Wilson like New York City. I don't know. There's
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  Speaker 3: Chris Rock in the in the foreground, you could see
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  Speaker 3: like thek my guy, Maddie Moden in the back. Is
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  Speaker 3: that modin? Hello? We love him? In the wrestling film
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  Speaker 3: Vision Crass Test also now on Stranger Things, Biggest Show
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  Speaker 3: in the World film that one is do to me,
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  Speaker 3: I live in a vision quest world.
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  Speaker 2: That said, he gets out there like you're thinking he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna do the press conference and it's gonna be you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just here to be to be a team player.
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  Speaker 3: He was like, I want to be the starter. He's
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  Speaker 3: not looking at a mentor rookie at.
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  Speaker 2: The Staria that he will you know, but it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: one of those where it's like whatever you do, I'm
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  Speaker 2: now for him, just happy for the opportunity, like Russ
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  Speaker 2: wants to rock and roll, and Russ wants to do this.
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  Speaker 2: There was a buzz and for for even a minute,
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  Speaker 2: even if it was just yesterday, it was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's a quarterback. And I hate to just keep on
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  Speaker 2: piling on Daniel Jones that he's no longer here. But
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  Speaker 2: at no point with Daniel Jones like let's go, I'm
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  Speaker 2: the guy, let's rock and roll. Daniel Jones never had
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  Speaker 2: that or I never had that presence. And whether Russell
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  Speaker 2: is the same guy he was in twenty seventeen and
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  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen when he was competing for MVP Awards and
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  Speaker 2: getting the Seahawks through the playoffs or he's this different
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  Speaker 2: version of himself, I think at the very least there's
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  Speaker 2: a presence. And I'll add this, you know, I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: at the numbers yesterdays they were coming in and it's
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  Speaker 2: ten and a half million, and he can make up
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  Speaker 2: to I think fifteen million with incentives, and Jamis will
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  Speaker 2: make eight. Duk Trescott's going to make sixty million, dollars
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  Speaker 2: to be the Cowboys quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Sixty that's sixty six, ohs. Russell Wilson will make ten.
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  Speaker 3: So for one sixth of.
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  Speaker 2: What you're paying Dak Prescott, you get your starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if Dak Prescott is six times
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  Speaker 2: the player that Russell Wilson is. So we'll see and
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  Speaker 2: go to the giant situation Rogers. They had to at
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  Speaker 2: some point and be like, we're not going to justcend.
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  Speaker 3: Here and wait.
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  Speaker 2: They go on, Rogers is going to likely be either
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  Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh or not playing at all. And now I
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  Speaker 2: have Russell Wilson, a competent quarterback, and you still leave
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  Speaker 2: the door open for that third. Overall, I feel a
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  Speaker 2: lot better today about it.
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  Speaker 3: Seeing kind of Russ and hearing Russ and.
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  Speaker 2: Seeing him in New York being well received than I
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  Speaker 2: did yesterday, where I was like, all right, Russell Wilson,
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  Speaker 2: what's next? You know?
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