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Steve Cullen: Criminal Lawyer on 2025 remand numbers dropping as prisoner numbers reach record highs (1) · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Something weird happening with Romand prisoners. The ones locked up
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  Speaker 1: and waiting trial numbers fell for the first three courts
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  Speaker 1: of last year, then randomly jumped by four hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty by the end of March this year. Almost all
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  Speaker 1: growth in prisoner numbers over that period was remand. Steve Cullen,
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  Speaker 1: criminal lawyer, with us this morning. I Steve, good morning,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on here?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the figures aren't that easy to interpret. One of
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  Speaker 2: the contributing factors must be, of course, if you have
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  Speaker 2: a particular group coming through who are facing quite serious
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  Speaker 2: charges and they are placed on remand then they start
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  Speaker 2: committing offenses whilst they're on remand failing to comply with
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  Speaker 2: their bowel conditions and such light or re offending whilst
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  Speaker 2: they're on ramand then those ones will be removed from
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  Speaker 2: Romand and placed in custody. That can affect the way
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  Speaker 2: the figures are interpreted. You can get a particular cohort
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  Speaker 2: come through who are non compliant with the law and
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  Speaker 2: non compliant with the judicial system, and they can skew
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  Speaker 2: the figures. But at the that's too early to really
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  Speaker 2: understand just why this is.
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  Speaker 1: Happening random because how many people would be reminded on
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  Speaker 1: bail versus remanded at home.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a Johnny good question. That to fluctuate from
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  Speaker 2: year to year depending upon the nature of the offending
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  Speaker 2: that's alleged against the particular people. You can have particular
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  Speaker 2: crimes that become flavor of the month, as we all
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  Speaker 2: saw over the last four or five years with ram
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  Speaker 2: raids and then motorcycle offending. You can just have particular
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  Speaker 2: community of emphasis on particular crimes. So it's difficult to
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  Speaker 2: say very unusual.
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  Speaker 1: Gotten any wild hot takes Steve any what any wild
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  Speaker 1: hot takes on? Why any any random ideas well?
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  Speaker 2: One thing of it. One suspicion would have to be
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  Speaker 2: that we did have delays in the court system which
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  Speaker 2: led to a lot of people being on remand those
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  Speaker 2: delays were then resolved the courts of in streamline that
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  Speaker 2: sped things up. You can have generational cohorts coming through
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  Speaker 2: as well. We need to see the statistics on that.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you can just get a population wave coming through.
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  Speaker 2: It's been well documented overseas and they can cause a
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  Speaker 2: temporary increase in particular types of offending. So let's just
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  Speaker 2: wait and see what the statistics revealed.
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  Speaker 1: Good on youa Steve Collen criminal lawyer.
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