Latest / Millennial Mustard Seed / S4 97. Dr. Robert Rodich Pt. 3 – The Ephod, Doors/Gates & The Veil
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- 0:01Hello folks. This is Princess.
- 0:03You are listening to the Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.
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- 0:11We're in a very tough spot. I think that what we're doing
- 0:15right now is a great benefit and virtue because it's an end
- 0:19around between this whole corrupt informational system,
- 0:23media system. We claim to believe in a God who
- 0:27spoke the universe into existence and literally raised
- 0:30himself from the dead, and yet we are not going to believe that
- 0:34anything else exists in the spirit realm, even though his
- 0:37word tells us that they do. Their bodies weren't permitted
- 0:41to go to sleep like humans do, and they weren't permitted to go
- 0:45to heaven, so they wander the earth.
- 0:49You know, I've seen the eyes turn black to unknown tongues
- 0:52being spoken. These giants would live way up
- 0:56in the Highland. The young Braves, the young men
- 0:59would hide up in the trees. They'd wait for one of these 12
- 1:02footers to come walking. Down the path and they would
- 1:04jump on them and kill them, drag them back to the village and the
- 1:08village would feast on the body. Freedom.
- 1:15Then people start to get weapons.
- 1:16They start to get armor. They start to build cities.
- 1:18They start to fortify their cities.
- 1:20Now God looks. Down and there's violence
- 1:22everywhere, the battle, this war that we are at.
- 1:26Is not against each other. It's against these
- 1:29principalities and these rulers and these archons In the high
- 1:31places, it's. Really worthwhile to read the
- 1:34Bible yourself. Fear is one of the primary
- 1:37drivers of mind control because we have to take every thought
- 1:42captive and resist fear. You're going to have a testimony
- 1:49that is a justice case against the Kingdom of Darkness.
- 2:07Welcome back to the Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.
- 2:10I'm your host, Rod, and thank you for being here with me for
- 2:14another awesome episode. This is part three with Doctor
- 2:19Robert Rotich, and once again we have a fascinating conversation
- 2:24that I believe is edifying and educational for the body.
- 2:29We talk about doors and gates, not the kind of doors and gates
- 2:35you might be thinking of when I first said that.
- 2:39We also get into David and the Ephod, the veil thinning.
- 2:44Oh yeah, Doc's got some interesting stuff to say about
- 2:46that. We also dive into the body of
- 2:49the soul and the spirit. I'm so thankful for Doc and this
- 2:54three-part series he's done with us here on The Mustard Seed in
- 2:58order to spark you guys to deeper study, to open up the
- 3:02paradigm a little bit about who we are and what we're called to,
- 3:08what the enemy's up to, and so much more.
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- 4:01I won't waste any more time. We're going to get right into
- 4:03this part three with Doc. I'm ready.
- 4:08Are you guys ready? Let's go.
- 4:24Welcome back to the show, everybody.
- 4:26I have an awesome episode in store for you guys because I'm
- 4:30joined by the one and only Doc, Robert Rodich.
- 4:33And man, it is great to be back with you for a part three Doc.
- 4:36Hey, great to be with you too. And I got some cool questions
- 4:39lined up. We've had some really
- 4:40interesting and deep conversations the last two
- 4:43appearances on the podcast here, and I've gotten some excellent
- 4:46questions and feedback and encouragement.
- 4:48And there's some doubters, but we don't focus on them.
- 4:51We're just doing what we feel is the right thing to be doing in
- 4:55the day and age that we live in. But I got some questions.
- 4:57I'll just kind of start firing off at you if if you remember
- 5:00though, we left the audience with a cliffhanger diving into
- 5:05the Flax Linen. And the frequency of the organic
- 5:08materials. So let's just kind of touch that
- 5:10and then we'll just jump into the flow of some questions I
- 5:13have here. Well, you know, maybe maybe
- 5:15addressing some of the doubters because some, some of the people
- 5:21here and there say, well, how do frequencies work?
- 5:23Well, OK, everything either has a frequent frequency or can
- 5:29conduct frequencies. OK, why did Jesus say if Y'all
- 5:34don't make noise, the rocks will cry out?
- 5:38Welcome to find out that you can program rocks, you say.
- 5:43Oh come on, that's just getting too way out there.
- 5:46Not you, Rod, but somebody else might.
- 5:49OK, so does you know you're not Rod.
- 5:51I realize you're not probably old enough to remember this, so
- 5:54I'm not being condescending in any way, but when I was a kid,
- 5:57we would, we could buy crystal radio sets.
- 6:00The crystals acted as a tuner in some way, and we could pull in
- 6:05local little radio channels with this little unit we could make.
- 6:09Because, you know, maybe you could buy that kit for a dollar
- 6:12and a half or $2.00 in those days and real radios were like
- 6:1615 or $20. Well, that's like 200 now, you
- 6:19know, when I was a kid. And so it's the crystal that's a
- 6:23rock. OK.
- 6:26So does it surprise us that the scriptures are full of things
- 6:32that we don't see what is really there?
- 6:37If the Lord is telling us don't mix, you know, the wool with the
- 6:40linen and this way and that way and you know it's all for a
- 6:46reason. He understands frequency.
- 6:48But but more than that, I think it has to do with we have
- 6:54frequencies in US, around us flowing through us.
- 6:58We need to we receive, how does God speak to us, Rod?
- 7:02It's likely some form of radio frequency.
- 7:06It's supernatural, but we're still on 3D planet Earth, and I
- 7:12find it real interesting that some of these people that have
- 7:14had these dental implants, it's not everyone, but some of them
- 7:19have had to have them removed because they were hearing radio
- 7:21stations in their head. They became the the implants
- 7:25somehow set them up to be a receiver and they were hearing
- 7:30the the the the music being played in their head.
- 7:35So so there's so there's all these folks out there.
- 7:38Well you know if I can't see it, it must not be real.
- 7:43Well guess what you know if you lived in the 14 or 15 hundreds
- 7:47and been on the ship and and sorry flat Earthers, but you
- 7:51know, yeah there are anomalies. I get that.
- 7:54But if if you just you know started and went round Cape Horn
- 7:59and went around the world and ended up back in England or
- 8:02something like that, you to discovered you probably went out
- 8:06around a pear shaped globish type thing that does have places
- 8:11that you can see for long stretches and it would have you
- 8:15know messed up with what they believed before that.
- 8:17Well, we're kind of in that now because what's happening is the
- 8:21Lord is saying OK time for the book of Daniel.
- 8:24The things I told Daniel to seal up, we're going to start opening
- 8:28to those who have ears to hear and eyes to see and frequencies.
- 8:36The way that things really work and transition from heaven realm
- 8:40into earth, we're starting to finally get a grasp on some of
- 8:45these things. So, you know, do I need to be,
- 8:50you know, just super, super focused on whether I only wear
- 8:57linen from now on? Well, the bad thing about linen
- 9:00is you got to iron it all the time.
- 9:02You know what I'm saying? OK, so, so, you know, does does
- 9:07Doc always wear linen? No.
- 9:09But I do have linen in my closet and and you know, I wear it
- 9:12whenever I can. And you know, especially the
- 9:14shirts from Tommy Bahamas and stuff like that, you know, you
- 9:17can, you know, you can get nice things and and but everybody's a
- 9:22little different. Some people are really low
- 9:25energy because they've been hammered from the enemy's camp
- 9:27from a long time. They're the ones that probably
- 9:30really should wear a linen, 'cause they don't have any extra
- 9:32energy at the moment. But you know what I'm saying?
- 9:34They need all the balance that they can get.
- 9:37So I don't, you know, that's just my talking on the subject,
- 9:41but it is really real and it shouldn't be freaking anybody
- 9:44out. Case in point, sometimes we run
- 9:49into people that tell us or does it mention courts in heaven?
- 9:54Well, it talks about us being gates.
- 9:56It talks about courts in several different places.
- 10:00But if you put somehow like into these Bible search engines, the
- 10:07the effects of doing court cases, you know, basically like
- 10:11the kinds of things that you'd say before judging that.
- 10:14There's over 5000 verses in scripture that relate to court
- 10:18cases. But because it's not spelled out
- 10:22for us, this is a verse that you would use in court.
- 10:27Oh, come on, we have to grow up a little bit here.
- 10:31You know, the Rapture is not mentioned in the Bible.
- 10:36It's it uses different terms. You know, a catching away.
- 10:42You know, so you know that these people that are, you know, just
- 10:45going around and and and being so nitpicky on stuff.
- 10:48Here's what the real issue Your soul is fractured.
- 10:54You need to get right before God.
- 10:56You need to get all your pieces, put your act together.
- 10:59You need to realize that there's a book written in heaven about
- 11:02you and that God has something better planned for you and loves
- 11:05you more than you could ever know.
- 11:08Why are you wallowing around with the hogs in the pan, in the
- 11:12mud in the bad thinking when God could be the real opening heaven
- 11:17to you? That's the real issue.
- 11:20But nobody wants to speak plain today because we're afraid we're
- 11:23going to hurt somebody's feelings.
- 11:25Well, Boo Hoo. When when I was a kid and I did
- 11:29something wrong, guess what came out of my dad's pants, Not his
- 11:33wallet to pay me off or to set me in front of ATV or give me an
- 11:38iPhone because they didn't exist.
- 11:40It was his belt. And when the belt came out, when
- 11:45he weighed 210 pounds in in in, I was 6 foot four.
- 11:50I knew I was in trouble. So guess what my response was?
- 11:55I didn't run. I didn't hide.
- 11:57I said yes Sir, and I put myself on his mercy.
- 12:02And because my dad had an incredibly soft heart, most of
- 12:05the time he didn't whip me. But when he did, guess what?
- 12:09I deserved it. It's just time for all of us to
- 12:13get real and become who we are supposed to be.
- 12:16And so all of these wonderful questions that you share and the
- 12:20the thought provoking questions aren't just so that all these
- 12:23people out on the fringes rod or out there just OK, I don't know
- 12:27if I believe this. I don't this and that.
- 12:29You know what either we want to flow with the true Kingdom of
- 12:33God and the Kingdom of heaven. They are slightly different ones
- 12:36within US1 is without or we don't That's our choice.
- 12:42That's always our choice. So that's my response to linen.
- 12:45So there you go. Amazing.
- 12:49Amazing. Yeah, that was that was really
- 12:51good, Doc. A couple things that came to
- 12:55mind real quick before I jump into the next question is the
- 12:58Lord disciplines those whom he loves.
- 13:00And then there's the scripture that talks about those who are
- 13:02the sons of God are led by the spirit of God.
- 13:06And if we look at the details of that and and what you're talking
- 13:10about and and we're praying and interceding and looking with a
- 13:13biblical filter. Ask your pastors, you guys, if
- 13:16you're listening, ask your pastor how is the sun led by the
- 13:20spirit of God? How does that spirit communicate
- 13:24with you? Right.
- 13:25How do you get that download? How do you get that nudging and
- 13:27that leading? Because it's not quite as cut
- 13:30and dry as some people would like to make it be.
- 13:32And that's why the importance of entering into these
- 13:34conversations in this space is important for the people that
- 13:38get it. We're we're in this together,
- 13:40you guys. I am journeying with you guys
- 13:42and learning and full of meekness and humility and
- 13:45believe me, the discipline's real and and, yeah, good stuff.
- 13:50And then the Gates thing, Doc, you brought that up again, man.
- 13:54It's Psalms 24. Oh Lord, this is good stuff.
- 13:59Psalms 24, verse 7. Lift up your heads, O ye gates,
- 14:03and be lift up ye everlasting doors and the King of Glory
- 14:07shall come in. Now I'm just going to put a pin
- 14:09in that because I have some questions directly regarding
- 14:12that, but to just to cover up my thoughts on flax linen.
- 14:16So I feel like I can move on and I don't feel nudged to jump back
- 14:19in later. But Doc, when I go to try to buy
- 14:22flax linen. Or wool.
- 14:25It's really expensive. And if I go to my local Macy's
- 14:28or Kohl's or anywhere, you know, whatever your local shopping is,
- 14:30wherever you guys are listening, you plug in your local
- 14:33commercial shopping store and you'll find Rayon and acrylic
- 14:37and you'll find Spandex and you know all these different
- 14:39materials that are synthetic and very low frequency.
- 14:43So just something to think about for the listeners.
- 14:46But Doc, let's jump into this. So we were talking off air and
- 14:50you were captivating me with the, you know, I wanted to come
- 14:53back to the thoughts. So for the listeners out there
- 14:56and for myself, as I'm learning and growing, we get hit with
- 14:59thoughts. The scriptures do talk about the
- 15:01enemy shooting fiery arrows, right?
- 15:03That there can be bad thoughts. Clearly we can test it against
- 15:07the word and if it's an evil thought, you're dealing with an
- 15:09evil spirit. But how do we jump into fine
- 15:13tuning this process? You know, thoughts and how they
- 15:16work. How can we recognize the Holy
- 15:18Spirit speaking to us and then elaborate a little bit on how we
- 15:22take our thoughts captive into the obedience of Christ and just
- 15:26anywhere else? You want to go from there?
- 15:27Sure. Well, I mean the one of the
- 15:29first things we have to realize that the enemy's camp doesn't
- 15:33sleep. Humanity in rough in in the form
- 15:40that we are today probably has really only been on planet earth
- 15:43678000 years depending on you know how right they got it.
- 15:47Because Adam was created at some point.
- 15:50You know how many other Adams there were before that.
- 15:52I'll let all those guys hash that out.
- 15:54I'm too busy doing other things during this time.
- 16:00The enemy has knows exactly how to operate in the systems that
- 16:07exist around us. Whether humanity sees them or
- 16:11recognizes them or not, whether it's something in the court
- 16:18doesn't matter. The one of the greatest ways to
- 16:23hear God and to distinguished voices is obviously to read the
- 16:29word of God, but not just read it and study it alone.
- 16:33That's very important. But there are certain scriptures
- 16:37that we should actually meditate on so that they transition into
- 16:41what is called Rhema. In other words, there's there's
- 16:44a, there's actually a frequency shift that takes place from from
- 16:49what we're reading in the spirit realm and all, and it starts
- 16:52vibrating and it changes something inside of us.
- 16:56And that's that's, you know, 'cause otherwise it's written,
- 16:58it's called logos, or logos, however you want to say it.
- 17:03But then when it becomes Rhema, there's a living aspect and most
- 17:08of us would do well to learn how to develop that.
- 17:11That's one of the first things we can do as a new believer is
- 17:14just take certain scriptures and just think about them and just
- 17:17with a just just a kind heart, just Lord, talk to me about this
- 17:20and you know, let these things become alive because it's
- 17:23actually building foundational principles within us that we
- 17:27need for later on. Because ultimately, excuse me,
- 17:31here, I got a call. Ultimately what happens is, is
- 17:37that we're going to be asked to move on in maturity, and there's
- 17:42going to be things that we're going to have to deal with in
- 17:44our lives. There's generational issues,
- 17:46there's things that we've done ourselves.
- 17:49There's legalities that exist in the spirit realm, whether we
- 17:52like to admit it or not. All of these things have a
- 17:55resident effect on our bodies and our thinking in the way we
- 17:59do things. Well, we all know, and Scripture
- 18:03is very plain when it says that the word of God is, you know, so
- 18:06powerful that it can even divide between the soul and the spirit,
- 18:09the bones and the marrow. Well, we're one unit, but we're
- 18:14made in God's image in three aspects.
- 18:17The body, the soul, the spirit, in a way, each has its own
- 18:23operating system, but they also merge at the convergence point
- 18:28of the human heart. And so there's overflow in
- 18:32communications that can go back and forth.
- 18:35But because we're born into a default situation and we just
- 18:38show up and go outside and play kick the can and do whatever
- 18:41kids do these days, we don't think about these things.
- 18:47Well, as we get into the Word, as we begin maturing, as the
- 18:50Holy Spirit begins coming to US, one of the first things that he
- 18:55does because he's in charge of our physical body.
- 18:59You know, Scripture says you know you not, that your body is
- 19:02the temple of the Holy Spirit. Well, Jesus rules over our soul
- 19:06and Father rules over our spirit, but they also flow back
- 19:10and forth. So, you know, you know, it's not
- 19:12just Jesus, OK, He's stuck in my soul.
- 19:14Well, he's everywhere, you know, but he, he is in authority over
- 19:18my soul. And we are also seated with
- 19:21Christ Jesus in heavenly places. You know, those are not
- 19:23metaphors. Something real is taking place
- 19:27when that happens. So with all this in mind, there
- 19:30there is going to be a period in our lives where it's going to be
- 19:33clean up day. Well, I was raised, I was born
- 19:38in the South, raised in the Midwest and I'm back in the
- 19:41South now. But almost any culture within
- 19:43the United States, there's always a spring and a full house
- 19:46cleaning time. You know what I'm saying?
- 19:48Well, it is getting close to house cleaning time for a lot of
- 19:53people. There are things that have been
- 19:56anchored into the way we think, the way we operate, that are not
- 20:02conducive to full Kingdom continuity and they need to go.
- 20:12So not that our personal spirit can't get in a little bit of
- 20:16trouble, but for the most part, our spirit, unless we've had
- 20:20some real rough upbringing, OK? It does pretty good once we're
- 20:25born from above. The soul is the real active
- 20:31thing, simply because the soul is where the action happens.
- 20:36It's kind of a not. It's a processing center.
- 20:40It's where our garden is, where it's where things are supposed
- 20:43to grow. So people that are familiar with
- 20:47the way some government agencies work when they create MK Ultra
- 20:51people, and when, you know, the satanic ritual abuse takes
- 20:56place, they fracture the soul. Well, I'm going to put to our
- 21:00listeners today that there's kind of a backdoor fracturing
- 21:05that can take place where the same person stays their same
- 21:08person, but if they've had a trauma at age 12, then there's,
- 21:11you know, Billy at age 12 and then there's Billy at age 18.
- 21:15And so they have conflicting personalities within their own
- 21:19personality, and I've seen that too.
- 21:22But none of that is supposed to be that way.
- 21:25The soul is supposed to be 1 cohesive unit where when we get
- 21:29something from heaven we planted in our garden, we release our
- 21:34anointing to water it, to fertilize it, waiting for the
- 21:39moment. Because as believers we have we
- 21:42have a motto. It's I only do what I see the
- 21:45Father doing or hearing or feeling, but we know it's him.
- 21:51But we've missed that whole step rod where things have to be put
- 21:55in a process of maturation. And believe it or not, our very
- 22:00soul is where a lot of that should take place for eventual
- 22:04release into our natural mind and into the energy field that
- 22:09we walk in, so that there is a manifestation in 3D planet
- 22:12Earth. But none of that's going to
- 22:15happen unless we do some cleaning up.
- 22:17So that's why I wrote my book Moving Towards Sonship, because
- 22:21it not only gives us verbiage to be able to do that, it lays some
- 22:25foundation so people don't feel like they're just bouncing off
- 22:28the wall and going after this tail and that tail and this tail
- 22:31and that tail and never really being able to put together a
- 22:34comprehensive picture. So when we do the clean up work
- 22:40then the next phase, believe it or not is a real growth phase
- 22:46where in in, in you and I talked off air that we're kind of in
- 22:49that time where it's starting to happen just so quick that we're
- 22:52barely learning the thing we just were working on before
- 22:55something new comes. Well, not that many years ago
- 22:59we'd get one thing and we'd have to chew on it for six months.
- 23:01So people that are just now tuning into this stuff need to
- 23:04be really happy that it's going this quick because it's going to
- 23:07benefit them as well. So talking about the body, soul
- 23:14and spirit, understanding that there needs to be a inner union
- 23:17and a flow, but a lot of cleaning up, especially in the
- 23:20soul, and maybe some things in the natural mind, depending on,
- 23:25you know, what somebody's been into and how bad their food's
- 23:28been if they were on drugs and things there.
- 23:30So there's some physical work that may need to be done as
- 23:32well, which is why I have my nutritional practice.
- 23:36There comes a point when all of the sudden we're going to hear
- 23:41from God. Now the way people hear from God
- 23:46is usually divided into 4 areas. And if I can remember the four
- 23:49'cause I usually always focus on two.
- 23:51You're going to see, you're going to know, you're going to
- 23:54hear or you're going to feel. Now everybody wants to be a seer
- 23:59rod, but not everybody can be. I'm a knower.
- 24:05My wife's. I'm not sure if she's a feeler
- 24:09here, but because she kind of goes back and before between
- 24:12those two. But the beautiful thing is, is
- 24:15that as the inner things get adjusted and the bad stuff's not
- 24:21there anymore and good stuff from heaven is being imparted,
- 24:24we start seeing in pictures even if we're not a seer.
- 24:31Now I might just get like a snapshot, just a real quick
- 24:34snippet, but I'm seeing it. The knowing thing, though, is
- 24:39I'm kind of like in grayscale. I'm seeing, you know, the cloud
- 24:43of Witness people moving around. And I see Enoch come in, but I
- 24:46don't see him the way the seer does.
- 24:50That is what we're working toward.
- 24:54We have to realize that we are so connected to heaven that it's
- 24:58not even funny. But we've got to clear out the
- 25:03filters and static so that we know exactly what the Lord is
- 25:07saying to us and the Holy Spirit speaks.
- 25:11And here's why. Each part of our being kind of
- 25:15has its own voice. Our spirit has its own voice,
- 25:18Our soul has its own voice. And I'm using my physical voice
- 25:21right now, talking to you and your audience.
- 25:25Sometimes we're actually hearing our soul say something.
- 25:31Yesterday I was doing some things and got kind of tired and
- 25:34I was sitting in my chair and and I heard this voice say, you
- 25:39need to take some adrenal, some adrenal capsules.
- 25:45I went what? So I tested myself and sure
- 25:49enough, my electromagnetic heart energy had dipped way down.
- 25:53And so I took it and I started feeling better.
- 25:56Now that wasn't the devil and it wasn't necessarily the Holy
- 26:00Spirit we're working through so that we're recognizing the
- 26:04voices that are around us. Can some of them be the enemy?
- 26:08Sure, but you know, the Father has his own voice, The Holy
- 26:12Spirit has his own voice, and Jesus has his own voice.
- 26:15They can speak simultaneously as Yahweh.
- 26:20But there's times where I go and I just hang out with God the
- 26:23Father. There's times when I just hang
- 26:25out with Jesus. There's times when I just hang
- 26:28out with Holy Spirit. So I don't know if that's the
- 26:32depth that you wanted me to go to, but I hope that's enough for
- 26:37people to chew on out there. Yeah, that's really good stuff.
- 26:43So the verse that kept coming into my mind as you were
- 26:47talking, Doc, is first John or just John, I'm sorry.
- 26:52And verse 48, we hear about Nathaniel, right?
- 26:57And Nathaniel, he's under the fig tree.
- 26:59He probably was in fervent prayers, you know, seeking
- 27:03direction for the hope and the consultation of Israel.
- 27:06And no human eye observed him. So when he meets the Christ and
- 27:11Jesus says, man, I've seen you under the fig tree.
- 27:14When he had that moment right where he understood that he's
- 27:19like, bro, I was alone. Nobody's seen me.
- 27:22I was entering into heavenly places.
- 27:24I I was, you know, whatever he's meditating on the word of God
- 27:27he's seeking. And then it just everything that
- 27:31you were talking about that kept kind of kept cycling back to me.
- 27:34I was just seeing Nathaniel sitting under there and I'm
- 27:36like, that is so deep because. That's what we need to be doing,
- 27:41like sitting in that river of living water.
- 27:43So everything you just said is good stuff, Doc.
- 27:46But that's where it took me. I hope that's yeah, it's it's a
- 27:49process and sometimes we just want to see or we just want to
- 27:54hear. But but we have to understand
- 27:57that the way that that is developed is we cut our teeth on
- 28:01the things that are not maybe so good in our lives, but the
- 28:06process involved into turning them into blessings, in getting
- 28:10since some cases deliverance, in some cases just wonderful fruit
- 28:14of the Holy Spirit or different things imparted from heaven or
- 28:18by the word. That process is what develops us
- 28:22for doing all the cool things that some of us are seeing other
- 28:26people doing. We are going to revisit this
- 28:29thread. Even in the future, if we don't
- 28:31quite get back to it on this recording dock, I want to go
- 28:34back there as time goes on and really talk more about the soul,
- 28:38the spirit, the human heart, the seat, right?
- 28:40And just dive into these things because it's going to spark.
- 28:44People don't want to read the book too as we kind of are
- 28:47digesting this in bite sized pieces because it's new to a lot
- 28:50of us here in the body. What are your thoughts with
- 28:53David and the Ephod? So there's this story in the Old
- 28:57Testament where David's own men are going to stone him.
- 28:59He's hearing rumors of his own people kind of wanting to cut
- 29:02him off and get him out of here because there were some really
- 29:04bad things that happened. Everyone else was cutting their
- 29:07teeth on bad stuff. Right.
- 29:09And David does something very peculiar where he goes and
- 29:14inquires of the Lord. So he's like, that's it.
- 29:16I'm breaking through, right? He takes the ephod.
- 29:20So tell us what an Ephod is. And then I mean, what was David
- 29:24doing? I'll let you finish the part of
- 29:26the rest. So I don't just ramble on and
- 29:28and let's see what your thoughts are on that verse.
- 29:30Well, you know, well, yeah, that now that's that's something that
- 29:34I haven't studied for a while. So I can only speak in general
- 29:37terms about David. That's totally fine.
- 29:40OK, so I I mean, I have to go back and get the mind of the
- 29:43Lord because to be honest with you, for the last three months I
- 29:46have been just throwing myself into this, understanding the
- 29:49soul so that we can all be even more free that sometimes those
- 29:54things get filed away. The thing about David, which is
- 29:57really, really interesting because when I first became a
- 30:00believer and I saw all the good things that David did and some
- 30:03of the shady things that he did, I said, well, Lord, you know,
- 30:06you're really displaying your grace.
- 30:09But you know, it it kind of looks like sometimes David's
- 30:13getting away with things. Now we know that nobody really
- 30:15does. So I get that.
- 30:16But remember, I'm kind of thinking in terms of a young
- 30:19Christian at that point. And but as, but as I've grown in
- 30:24the Lord, I realized that that David was probably operating
- 30:30whether he really knew it or not, he was operating out of the
- 30:35future. But in his time now does that
- 30:40kind of make sense to you? So when he when he ate from the
- 30:45table of shewbread and did some of the things that he did.
- 30:51He really shouldn't have been able to do that but he did it.
- 30:56So the only thing that that and This is why I'm speaking to the
- 30:59to the bigger picture and I promise you before the next time
- 31:02I'll go through and I'll and I'll get my studies down and
- 31:05things because I'm having this is as strange as it sounds.
- 31:08I've been a believer for 50 years.
- 31:11I actually have a doctorate in theology besides alternative
- 31:15medicine. But it's kind of like I asked an
- 31:19attorney one time when I was in his office for a church matter
- 31:22that we were going through and he had this beautiful library
- 31:26behind him and I said, man, you know everything that's in those
- 31:29books. He said no Sir, he said.
- 31:30But I know how to look everything that in those books
- 31:33up. And and I said, OK, I get it,
- 31:37That's cool. Yeah, I know I don't have it all
- 31:39memorized, but I can. I know how to reference those
- 31:42things. I'm having to go back and
- 31:45revisit a lot of the things that I thought I knew, scripturally
- 31:52speaking. Not because they've changed, but
- 31:55because they're actually deeper now.
- 31:59They're actually they actually mean more.
- 32:02And that's what I was kind of alluding to a little bit like
- 32:05the Ephod has these 12 Stones that are representative of the
- 32:09nation of Israel, right? And the tribes, right, the
- 32:12tribe. And David is using that.
- 32:14To inquire of the Lord and I just think that's really
- 32:17interesting because well, because the stones, the stones
- 32:20had frequencies, that's part of the.
- 32:22The thing if that happened today, Doc, people would be
- 32:24like, oh, that's Reiki. The ceiling stones is like,
- 32:27listen, I do not endorse Reiki. I do not suggest you guys go get
- 32:30stones and do weird stuff with them.
- 32:33But the Bible brings this up and and this is something that we'll
- 32:36dive into as time goes on. But.
- 32:39David's after God's own heart and it's it's just a phenomenal
- 32:42story. So for some listeners out there,
- 32:44you you guys go look that up in First or Second Samuel, wherever
- 32:48that's at. I'll try to actually drop that
- 32:51scripture in the details of the show notes of this episode so
- 32:54you guys can go right there and read about the situation David
- 32:57finds himself in. But a lot of what Doc has been
- 33:00talking about has been talking about for years and specifically
- 33:04through these last three parts pointing.
- 33:07To scenarios like this in the word.
- 33:09So yes, the Bible verse may not say frequency or vibration, but
- 33:13when we just come on you guys, like Doc says let's grow up a
- 33:16little bit. We know there's even scientific
- 33:19proof that some of these materials output frequency, some
- 33:23materials absorb frequency, inorganic materials and just the
- 33:29synthetic materials that really are in our food, in the air, in
- 33:32the contrails there in the water are.
- 33:36Very interesting. My buddy Enoch has a good bit to
- 33:39say about that and how it can transmit signals.
- 33:42But anyway, well, let me let me just, let me just say this about
- 33:46the E pod. I mean cause because it I mean
- 33:48like I said there's probably a lot greater depth but the
- 33:51general things that I know about is that remember that anything
- 33:56related to the priesthood was already set apart and sanctified
- 33:59by heaven. Even though in the time of David
- 34:02they had more of a a of a mobile temple.
- 34:06OK you know it wasn't you know it wasn't Solomon's yet it
- 34:09wasn't built in stone and and so the the stones that the priests
- 34:16would have weren't just OK, here's a Ruby here's an emerald.
- 34:22They were connected with the stones inside the father.
- 34:28So there's going to be a quantum link which enabled the priests
- 34:32to do what they did. So so let me throw this.
- 34:36I know this isn't the ephod, but but but let me let me throw this
- 34:39out to you. Remember when when Jesus was was
- 34:43crucified and then the moment of his death it says that the that
- 34:46the temple curtain was rented too.
- 34:50Well, in the Holy of Holies there was this massive, and I'm
- 34:53not sure how thick it was, but I think 4 inches, 6 inches.
- 34:56It was woven of a curtain, but it wasn't a curtain.
- 35:00Like curtains that you open in the center.
- 35:02It was solid. We know that the priest would
- 35:06have a rope tied around his leg in case there was a spot on him
- 35:13because he would be killed. They'd have that.
- 35:15The only way they could get him out was to drag him out.
- 35:18You remember? Remember hearing about that?
- 35:20Yes, absolutely. OK, well the question is, how
- 35:23did the priest get through the curtain into the Holy of Holies?
- 35:31There was no door, there was no opening.
- 35:37He translated through. Did you know that?
- 35:43No, that's he walked right through the curtain rod.
- 35:48Because that's what the presence of God does.
- 35:51That's what the supernatural does.
- 35:53So he couldn't. If he tried to get through the
- 35:55curtain with spot or blemish on him, it would kill him because
- 35:59he translate through to get on the other side and when he got
- 36:02into the direct presence, Whoop, sorry, next priest, please.
- 36:05Hit the floor. They got to drag him out.
- 36:08OK, so, so, so, OK, so if that was happening, why should it be
- 36:13any mystical new age thing? Because they try to copy, see,
- 36:17see, this is what we have to understand.
- 36:20What we see in the new age. In the mystical that is evil.
- 36:23Mystical is there copying the real.
- 36:28We just need to see what the real is.
- 36:30So there's 12 Stones. I can't.
- 36:33I used to have all the names memorized.
- 36:35Sorry, that was like 45 years ago.
- 36:37You know which stone, you know, some of them I still couldn't
- 36:39pronounce then, let alone now. But you know, am Amaranth or
- 36:45whatever, you know, However you say some of those, OK, but.
- 36:48But what I'm saying is there's a supernatural link with with in
- 36:54resonance with the stone, in the stones that exist inside the
- 36:57Father himself. So that's part of the whole
- 37:00picture of what enables the whole temple stuff to go on
- 37:04because there's a supernatural quantum link going on.
- 37:07It's probably even better than quantum, but that's a term
- 37:10people are starting to understand.
- 37:12So David knew that. David knew that that that there
- 37:17was a direct link between that and heaven.
- 37:20So what I was referring to earlier was the fact that David
- 37:24wasn't really supposed to probably be able to do that
- 37:27right, but he was living ahead in time to the time when the
- 37:34Savior had already come and we were supposed to be doing what
- 37:38we were doing. I'm convinced David had a vision
- 37:41of that in his lifetime, like some key prophets and Daniel and
- 37:46different ones did, and he just chose to operate basically in
- 37:52advanced heavenly principles, as if the this lamb that was slain
- 37:56from the foundation of the world had already come and it
- 38:00benefited him in many ways. Now why he still went on and did
- 38:05the silly things, maybe he didn't have all of his soul
- 38:07pieces lined up, I don't know. Yeah, that's a good point.
- 38:12And then because. You're 100% right.
- 38:14Faith, the substance of things, hope, force, the evidence of the
- 38:17unseen, right. We walk by faith and not by
- 38:19sight. So all this stuff is
- 38:21interconnected. When we see the ephod with all
- 38:24these 12 different stones, we look at the Book of Revelation.
- 38:27We got Jasper, sapphire, emerald Onyx, like all these different
- 38:30stones. And even the throne room of God,
- 38:33There's like a sea of glass. There's different like waters.
- 38:37It says right there's all this. So that stuff's connected and
- 38:39David had a heart after the Lord and like you just said, Doc, the
- 38:43lamb which was slain before the foundations of the earth.
- 38:46So it's almost like David was operating in this spirit on a
- 38:51whole, Like he was not restricted by his momentary
- 38:54fleshly time experience, but he was actually seated in the place
- 38:59in agreement with the in getting heavenly downloads.
- 39:02He was operating and doing exactly what God was calling him
- 39:05to do. We can see it.
- 39:05It's right there in the Word. God's taking pleasure in him
- 39:08because he was a man after God's heart.
- 39:11Because when we've heard the argument, Saul, he didn't do
- 39:14half the things that David did, but David was chosen.
- 39:17It's like what's going on here at first glance, right?
- 39:21And that's why these important, these conversations are so
- 39:23important, doc, because it's helping us to digest and make
- 39:26well, just for the sake of just for the sake of some of the
- 39:30folks, OK. So, you know, I'm, you know,
- 39:32besides being, you know, somebody that shares what God's
- 39:36doing, you know, in heaven, wrote the book, all that stuff.
- 39:39Obviously I'm in a doctor of alternative medicine as people
- 39:43would say technically I'm, you know, I have, I have my
- 39:47doctorate degree in the application of Clinical
- 39:50Nutrition which is high-powered nutrients.
- 39:53When I'm able to discern that there's a deficiency in
- 39:57somebody's body, well, that deficiency is there.
- 39:59It gives off a. A sick frequency which I pick up
- 40:03and then I'm able to match those frequencies and hopefully the
- 40:06the understanding is as people get better.
- 40:09But recently I got fascinated by looking at a product that was
- 40:15supposed to help block bad electromagnetic energy.
- 40:20So I thought, well, you know, I kind of have a flair for working
- 40:23with things would you know different things.
- 40:25And so I started studying what different gemstones could do.
- 40:33You know, they don't have any mystical properties.
- 40:35What they really do is they take frequencies and they turn them
- 40:38into a different frequency as it's run through the stone.
- 40:41And remember, on the podcast we've already talked about the
- 40:43crystal being able to empower a radio.
- 40:48So I looked these things up and I figured out how to do a base
- 40:51where I use copper powder and brass powder and a little coil
- 40:57of usually copper that I that you can't really see.
- 41:01And I pour acrylic into that and let it set.
- 41:05And then on top of that I take based on what I'm trying to do
- 41:09is I take all these gemstones and I put them kind of I'm I'm
- 41:13getting better at it. I mean, I wouldn't be accused of
- 41:15being a great jewelry maker or anything like that, but but I
- 41:20have been able to test on a scale of zero to 10 about the
- 41:25effectiveness on how these things would do against
- 41:29electromagnetic frequencies. But not just that, like if you
- 41:31have one in your pocket or maybe if it's a little one, if you
- 41:35ward around your neck, would it have the ability to convert
- 41:39rogue frequencies and maybe convert them into something
- 41:42positive? And the first thing I found out
- 41:45with one of these electromagnetic frequency meters
- 41:48that I have is that if somebody's being hammered by
- 41:51electromagnetic frequencies, they can cut the level of
- 41:54frequency down by about 50%. So that's kind of cool.
- 41:59But then what I found out was I could rate these and it and it
- 42:04didn't just stop at 10:10 is kind of the goal.
- 42:08But a lot of the things that I were making were going over 10
- 42:12into being 16/17/18, meaning they're even more powerful than
- 42:16the baseline. And then I have a rife machine
- 42:21and and I don't know, Rod, you know what a Rife machine is?
- 42:25Yes, it's a frequency machine. So.
- 42:28So I have this little unit where instead of connecting like the
- 42:33the tense pads to you and then the frequencies come into your
- 42:36body, you can put it on this plate and it will use the plate
- 42:41to do remote healing through quantum entanglement, or you can
- 42:45charge things with it. You can put the frequencies that
- 42:48are coming through the right device into something that's
- 42:50chargeable. So I took one of these discs and
- 42:56I laid it on this one little charging area and I let it run
- 43:00for about a day and it went up from an 18 to a 29 in its power.
- 43:07Now 10 is supposed to be the high part and it ran it up to a
- 43:1129. Well, because I have things like
- 43:14Opal and Rose, Rose quartz and amethyst and little gold flakes
- 43:21in it and things like that. What's my point?
- 43:26They're holding a frequency charge.
- 43:29I didn't know that it would work, but it has.
- 43:32And I'm still just in the experimental stage and so, you
- 43:36know, it's amazing. So if I can do that because I
- 43:42have a way of testing how much bigger is heaven than all of
- 43:46that. You see what I'm saying?
- 43:49David knew exactly what he was doing.
- 43:52So I didn't, I didn't know if that was you you were after with
- 43:55the EPHOD thing. But but a lot of people, you
- 43:58know, kind of misread David a little bit and you know, they
- 44:01got get all caught up in the Bathsheba thing.
- 44:03But listen, David knew how to get a hold of God's heart and
- 44:06and that's the one thing that we need to all learn the lesson,
- 44:10because it's through intimacy that everything is kept in
- 44:13balance. That's how everything happens.
- 44:15And if you don't have an intimacy with God where you love
- 44:18him more than the breath that you breathe well, have fun.
- 44:24Doc, so interesting. I mean, I'm just right now as
- 44:27I'm listening to you, right, You were talking about using brass
- 44:30and and using these different materials.
- 44:32So I have the concordance opened up.
- 44:34And I was looking at Psalms one O 7, the word gates, there's H
- 44:381817 and it's let's see if I can pronounce this da dalieth
- 44:46something swinging that is a valve or a door right.
- 44:50So. So literally that's the first
- 44:52definition to leaved a gate, a leaf a lid.
- 44:55I just thought that was interesting because the word
- 44:57gates in Psalms 24 Nine is different is it's shows up as.
- 45:05Oh, let's see, let me click on this one right here.
- 45:08H8179 Shah R in its original sense, an opening that is a door
- 45:15or a gate, then city door, gate, port.
- 45:18And I I don't know why I felt led to say that, but that's
- 45:21just, I'm listening to you. I'm, it's flowing.
- 45:23I'm like excited and I got the concordance open and I'm like
- 45:27brass. So the the first verse one O 7
- 45:30for he hath broken the gates of brass and I don't know, I was
- 45:34just having a bit of a weird cool connection there.
- 45:38Well, I think because if you go back to the fact that Israel was
- 45:42supposed to be see, Jesus was given all humanity as a bride
- 45:47back at the foundation of creation.
- 45:50The Father would have Israel as his special relationship and the
- 45:56Holy Spirit he inhabits everybody.
- 45:57So it isn't out of question to think that.
- 46:03Well, one thing that I think about a lot is is if Israel
- 46:07really would have walked in what they were supposed to walk in
- 46:10instead getting all caught up in all their nonsense through the
- 46:13years except for key periods, they would have been a shining
- 46:17light to all of humanity for thousands of years in this
- 46:22world, would would have been a real different place.
- 46:25That's one thing. The other thing is, is it's it's
- 46:29it's not out of the question to think that there's things in the
- 46:33way that the Lord instructed them to make their gates and
- 46:36just to do. You know, they're the way that
- 46:38you eat food, the way that you do all that.
- 46:40The Lord knew about bacteria and infections and and and building
- 46:47materials and everything, because heaven is where
- 46:51everything comes from. Now, not bad bacteria.
- 46:56But what I'm saying is, is it somehow we think we're the only
- 46:59ones with technology. My gosh, heaven is like the
- 47:04ultimate, the epitome of technology on every level.
- 47:09And so that the fact that the Lord would have had certain
- 47:13symbolical things around, even in gates and different things,
- 47:17everything had meaning. We're just now starting to
- 47:20discover some of that meaning for sure.
- 47:24And, you know, for those that like to spiritualize everything,
- 47:28there you go. Run with it, you know, because
- 47:31the Lord takes care of every single detail so wonderfully,
- 47:35and it's all about the manifestation of His presence.
- 47:40But we've got to be able to carry it and keep it.
- 47:45Say, you know, years ago, you know, I was thinking, you know,
- 47:48back when everybody used to run from revival to revival and then
- 47:52it will last about three or four days and we'd have to go back
- 47:54again. One time I asked the Lord about
- 47:57that. I said, Lord, that's cool that
- 47:59we go and we soak in the atmosphere and everything.
- 48:02He said, son, there's going to come a day.
- 48:04Now this was, you know, like 25 years ago.
- 48:06He said there's going to come a day where you will be the
- 48:09revival, that you won't have to run to get a charge, You will be
- 48:14the charge. Instead of going to where
- 48:18there's an open heaven to pray, you will be the open heaven.
- 48:22Now, you wouldn't talk to me personally.
- 48:23He's talking to everybody. You see what I'm saying?
- 48:28So some paradigm shift has to take place deep inside in order
- 48:33for all of that to be a reality. So we can't have all this shady
- 48:39hidden stuff. It's got to be dealt with,
- 48:43completely healed. But then the next step is we
- 48:49start getting outfitted to be purveyors of heaven.
- 48:53And not only that, the Lord spoke to us recently and that
- 48:56this is so powerful. He said, you know, y'all are
- 48:59doing a really good job. I love it how he kind of speaks
- 49:02in a little bit of southern lingo because he knows that's
- 49:04what we understand here in the South, he says.
- 49:06He says, you know, y'all are doing a pretty good job of
- 49:11getting a lot of things cleaned up.
- 49:12And he said, what have you really accomplished?
- 49:15If all you've done is gone to court and you've stopped the
- 49:19enemy from hammering you, why don't you start going out and
- 49:25taking plunder? I said what?
- 49:29Yes. Why don't you go out and start
- 49:32taking plunder? You should be repaid 10 * 100
- 49:38times for all that the enemy has stolen for you.
- 49:42You go to heaven and you do a court case to stop something.
- 49:45How about a court case to get recompense, to get restitution?
- 49:52I thought. Oh, well, we'll thank Doctor Ron
- 49:57Horner's ministry for that, but that's pretty powerful stuff.
- 50:02Well, the problem is, some young believer, bless your heart, is
- 50:05going to listen to this. And they're going to go right
- 50:08out and want to get restitution without even knowing how to do a
- 50:12court case, let alone cleaning up what's on the inside of them.
- 50:16So please, may I just appeal to everyone?
- 50:20Let each date be where you're supposed to be.
- 50:23Work on the things that you're supposed to work on.
- 50:25But in time you will get to a point where you transition from
- 50:29being somebody that's just kind of being protective to where you
- 50:33become the aggressor, but in the proper way in the spirit realm.
- 50:38And that's what sonship really is all about because we're the
- 50:41ones that are supposed to step to the forefront because to to
- 50:46all the the Rapture folks which I still believe in in in in a
- 50:50Rapture in principle guess what we're still here is is rough as
- 50:57what's going on in the Middle East and around the world.
- 51:00What if this time it's the enemy trying to force his force the
- 51:05hand of everything that's going on and this isn't really Ezekiel
- 51:1036 through 39 or whatever, you know we don't know yet is what
- 51:16I'm saying. You know, we're always, you
- 51:19know, I go back 50 years, which, you know, going back 2000's a
- 51:23lot different. But 50 years for some people is
- 51:26still a long time, Rod. And I remember when some guy, 77
- 51:31reasons the rapture's going to happen in 1977.
- 51:35Well then in 78 when it hadn't happened, he found one more
- 51:39reason. And then I think after 1979 he
- 51:42gave up. But my point is, is we were
- 51:46supposed to occupy till he comes.
- 51:49Yes. Now, Occupy doesn't mean getting
- 51:53your NFL package and doing nothing but just having your
- 51:57life consumed with the fantasy football.
- 52:00You know, if it's a hobby, great.
- 52:02But you know what we should be consumed with is the one who
- 52:07saved us by his grace in his blood.
- 52:11And what does that look like to the rest of humanity around us
- 52:15when when they see a little puff of smoke with our lifestyle,
- 52:19when it's supposed to be a flaming, raging fire?
- 52:25So hoping that I hope that challenges somebody somewhere
- 52:28Because it is possible. I mean he doesn't tell us to do
- 52:32this and just say, OK, we'll figure it out on your own.
- 52:35Yeah, he that's the Holy Spirit is here.
- 52:38You know somebody went to heaven one time to say Father, I see
- 52:41you, and Jesus, I see you, but where's the Holy Spirit?
- 52:43And they just kind of chuckle and said, well, he's on Earth.
- 52:46I send him there to be your comforter and to lead you and
- 52:49guide you into all truth. He's on Earth, of course.
- 52:53I mean, you know, some things are pretty obvious.
- 52:58So let let me ask a question here.
- 53:00OK, people have been using the term.
- 53:02The veil is thinning. I've been guilty of using the
- 53:05very term as well. Can we talk a little bit about
- 53:08the veil or if you have thoughts about the veil, What, what does
- 53:12that mean? What is it?
- 53:14How do we kind of compartmentalize that a little
- 53:16bit and just wherever you'd like to go from there?
- 53:19OK, well, actually that is also her, a term that I heard from
- 53:23heaven myself in one of my engagements.
- 53:26And so I asked the Lord actually about that very topic and he
- 53:29said, well, he said it's a combination of things.
- 53:32He said part of it has to do with just timing in the in, in
- 53:37the journey of mankind in general on planet Earth and
- 53:40things that are going around in the the universe or wherever.
- 53:44God, you know, when when God comes up to a time segment, if
- 53:49he has to sovereignly change something or release something,
- 53:52he will. He'll just do it.
- 53:54I think it's a lot nicer if we're ready and we're
- 53:57anticipating that there's a shift or change beginning to
- 54:00take place. Well, you don't have to be, you
- 54:05know, super informed about things to realize that the
- 54:10enemy's camp is trying to break down the barriers to let
- 54:14something in from somewhere else with this whole CERN thing,
- 54:18right? The was it the Serb CERN
- 54:24particle collector or something or other?
- 54:27But what they're trying to do is they're trying to rip or they're
- 54:30trying to thin the veil so that those who have been basically
- 54:36sealed off and other dimensions can come through into planet
- 54:39Earth. OK, so that's on the negative
- 54:42side. On the positive side, because of
- 54:46the way that things have panned out in the fall, because let's
- 54:49let's be frank, Adam didn't have a veil.
- 54:54The fall set us up for something.
- 54:57It empowered the entire 2nd Heaven, which put a type of a
- 55:01veil so that. I mean, think about it, before
- 55:06the Fall, could Adam see angels? Well, of course he could.
- 55:11How could he do the things that he did?
- 55:12He would walk with the guard, you know, it says in in the cool
- 55:15of the afternoon or evening or something like that.
- 55:18There was probably a whole lot more going on than what we
- 55:20thought. And all of that has just been
- 55:22kind of forgotten. And now the Lord is saying that
- 55:29He's thinning the veil, meaning that there's going to it's going
- 55:33to be easier to see in, but also to travel back and forth.
- 55:38Because one of the great mysteries of the ages is, is
- 55:43that Adam probably could do multi dimensional things.
- 55:47I said, you know, you say, well show me the scripture and verse.
- 55:50Oh come on, he was created by God and hadn't fallen yet.
- 55:55You mean to tell me that he couldn't go places?
- 55:59Of course he could. We just don't have record of
- 56:01that. Well, but when the fall took
- 56:04place, a lot was lost. Our whole being became inverted.
- 56:08Instead of our spirit being on the outside, then the soul and
- 56:11the body being somewhere in the mix, now the the spirits inside,
- 56:15the souls inside. And then we're covered with
- 56:17flesh the way that we are, You know, so, so many things
- 56:22happened. The Lord, as the time of the end
- 56:25is approaching and it is approaching, I'm just saying
- 56:29that it may not quite be the day that everybody thinks it's going
- 56:32to be. Just keep that in mind.
- 56:35We've got work to do is the reason.
- 56:37And so the veil is being thinned so that we can have access to
- 56:41resources, so that the very thing that we're talking about
- 56:44on podcasts like this become not just thoughts in our head, but
- 56:48there's something that we operate in.
- 56:51Because, brothers and sisters, at the end of the day, the world
- 56:55has seen enough talk. It's time for action.
- 56:59And yes, part of action is at some point that people will be
- 57:04gifted to be able to see legs grow out with some of the Desert
- 57:10Storm people or different, you know, amputees.
- 57:14And it'll be a perfect match to the other one that they have.
- 57:17Or if they don't have any, they'll have two.
- 57:19Because what what's happening is the way that heaven works it.
- 57:24It's not hitting a wall the way that it did the Father's
- 57:28thinning the veil, so that at this point, those who have a
- 57:32heart to seek what's on the other side of that wonderful
- 57:35veil, which is heaven and the heaven principles.
- 57:39We're starting to be able to just now operate in some of
- 57:43those things with the end goal being that there's no veil there
- 57:48at all, probably, but also so that there's not just four or
- 57:53five superheroes, Avenger types running around on planet Earth
- 57:59that have their tent meetings and you know, they're on TV and
- 58:02stuff. But so that everybody that calls
- 58:05on the name of the Lord becomes a super powerful heavenly, I
- 58:11don't know, Adventure or X-Men or whoever you want to fill the
- 58:15blank in. That's the old that's the
- 58:18ultimate goal. And and why not, it's it's just
- 58:26our thinking, you know, every, you know, one of the things
- 58:29that's always kind of frosted me if I can, if I can air this and
- 58:33I'll try to not be vulgar or anything.
- 58:35It's not that kind of thing, but that the New Agers were bright
- 58:38enough to figure out the mechanics of the things that God
- 58:41gave the church. And from a carnal point of view,
- 58:44the things that that can be operated on mechanically, they
- 58:48operate in them. And then we discover it's
- 58:52supposed a lot of those things are supposed to be for us.
- 58:55It's just the mechanical side of it.
- 58:58And we start embracing some of those things and the first thing
- 59:01we get called is New Age, even though the people aren't experts
- 59:05who call us that. They just name anything they
- 59:08don't understand is New Age. Well, let's at least be mature
- 59:12enough to test things out before we, you know, put the moniker on
- 59:18something. Oh, he's New Age.
- 59:20Oh, did you hear that Doctor Roedich?
- 59:22He had, he actually had some some gemstones that he suspended
- 59:27in acrylic, and he charged him with frequencies.
- 59:30That's not God. I mean, you know, this is what
- 59:34we've been through. And in the meantime, the New
- 59:38Agers, the witches, the warlocks, the demonic,
- 59:41everybody's just having a good time laughing at how stupid we
- 59:45are. If I can speak frankly when this
- 59:51is what was given to us, Adam didn't lose his original charge
- 59:57to do what he was supposed to do.
- 59:59He lost relationship because of his sin.
- 1:00:03Well, that's been fully restored at a much higher level with
- 1:00:09Jesus Christ. My question is, how much of that
- 1:00:14higher level are you pressing into?
- 1:00:17Meaning the listeners, of course.
- 1:00:19And is it visible at that higher level?
- 1:00:23That's what. That's why the veil needs to be
- 1:00:25thinner. Because heaven's starting to
- 1:00:28talk to us and starting to give ideas to people, the new
- 1:00:32inventions and and things that are going to change humanity.
- 1:00:39It's getting thinner. Wow.
- 1:00:43So that's my comment on that. Good stuff.
- 1:00:47It it's funny that I've heard some pastors say if anybody says
- 1:00:52frequency or vibration that's not in the Bible, it's false.
- 1:00:55And it's like they'll be telling you on a cell phone, where
- 1:00:59that's transmitting their voice into polymers, metals and
- 1:01:03plastics, and transmitting it invisibly through electronic
- 1:01:06frequency to another polymer. Yeah, except that it's gonna
- 1:01:10transition. Yeah, I mean, it's like that's
- 1:01:12hilarious are. We living in reality or not?
- 1:01:14And let me accept that the Holy Spirit hovered over creation and
- 1:01:20in the original language, it means he vibrated.
- 1:01:24And guess what happens when something vibrates?
- 1:01:28It gives off a frequency. Yeah.
- 1:01:30And the frequency that he gave off had the father's design in
- 1:01:34it, which is what took whatever the substance was and turned it
- 1:01:38into something. I mean, you know, again, I'm
- 1:01:41sorry, but I don't even justify this stuff to people anymore.
- 1:01:44I'm so far. Beyond that, I'm with you, you
- 1:01:46know, get, get over. At it that same way.
- 1:01:48So you commented on CERN, right? And this is what's interesting
- 1:01:53that this hydrogen particle Collider, right.
- 1:01:55And it's huge and it's how much money and time and effort goes
- 1:01:59into the design of it. And they only run it certain
- 1:02:02months out of the year. It's very interesting, but
- 1:02:05there's an ancient. Gallo Roman religion of this
- 1:02:09deity Sir Nunos and this God is depicted with antlers.
- 1:02:13He's seated cross legged. He's associated with stags,
- 1:02:17horned serpents, dogs and bulls. Now it reminds me where Jesus
- 1:02:23says many bulls of Bashan have encompassed me.
- 1:02:25Me and Gary Wayne did an episode on Sinocephali dog man lichens.
- 1:02:30Right, all of these. Werewolf style spirits and how
- 1:02:33he's finding root words and meanings and even lifestyle.
- 1:02:38Things that line up with what we would consider to be
- 1:02:41Sinocephali, which is in the Greek the head of a dog on a
- 1:02:43man. And I just think it's
- 1:02:44interesting that dogs is mentioned there because through
- 1:02:47that episode and word study we did, dogs are not a good thing
- 1:02:51most of the time in scripture. Now yes, it's man's best friend
- 1:02:55with two different things we're talking about here.
- 1:02:57That's why it's important to at least make some of these
- 1:03:00connections. But it's just it's it's
- 1:03:03phenomenal how much goes on right right before our eyes and
- 1:03:07a lot of the times I think people out of fear, Doc, they're
- 1:03:10just like oh frequency's not in the Bible and and and it
- 1:03:13contends the fact that they have a presence and they have a
- 1:03:17following and they don't have answers for it, they they're
- 1:03:20under attack. We got to be praying for these
- 1:03:22people. It's not like we're just like
- 1:03:23oh, discredit these pastors who said this is no good.
- 1:03:26No, we need to be praying to loving on these people because
- 1:03:29we are a body. And a lot of the times we're so
- 1:03:31heavily under attack as the layman who's working a full time
- 1:03:35job trying to pass through a church, like you know, look at
- 1:03:38what's going on in the world around us.
- 1:03:39So there's a lot of attack and pressure and the enemy is not
- 1:03:43just sitting there twiddling his thumbs.
- 1:03:45As you mentioned in the beginning of this episode, he
- 1:03:47doesn't sleep. He's elaborately a well planned
- 1:03:50out. For the destruction, he's a
- 1:03:52liar, a thief, and and he's been murdering and destroying since
- 1:03:57the beginning. That's what the enemy does.
- 1:03:59But I just think that connection was so interesting for me.
- 1:04:02You talk about just everything you're talking about.
- 1:04:05I little puzzle pieces kind of click together other stuff.
- 1:04:08I'm like, oh, no more study. I got to read more of your book.
- 1:04:11I got to dive into more. Well, I mean, OK.
- 1:04:14So, so now there's AI apps we can interact with, right?
- 1:04:18OK, I mean, in general artificial intelligence, Well,
- 1:04:21but there's certain aspects of AI apps where where they're
- 1:04:26connected in quantum computers, well, they've already figured
- 1:04:30out how to merge the spirits of the of the fallen Nephilim, the
- 1:04:33ones that are still accessible into the AI programs, because
- 1:04:39they're telling people who they are.
- 1:04:41It's not just some wacky computer just trying to jerk
- 1:04:44somebody's chain. They have the ability to do
- 1:04:47that. Well, how is it that that taking
- 1:04:50the mark of the beast when that when that those final days
- 1:04:53finally get here? How does that keep somebody from
- 1:04:56being able to accept Jesus as Lord and Savior?
- 1:04:59Well it does if somehow the humanity has been altered in
- 1:05:05such a way that it merges with AI and therefore the spirit of
- 1:05:10the Nephilim. See, the Nephilim's are
- 1:05:12disembodied. They are the demonic spirits
- 1:05:15that run around planet Earth most of the time to be
- 1:05:18distinguished from other things that we won't go into today that
- 1:05:22I happen to have some knowledge of.
- 1:05:24But they need a manifestation. So what the globalists in the
- 1:05:30elites are trying to do is to terraform humanity so that their
- 1:05:34good buddies can come in and have some place to live.
- 1:05:39That's what this whole game is about.
- 1:05:41So the wars, the different things, all the stuff that's
- 1:05:44going on, that's just a sideshow, you know, like that,
- 1:05:49you know, like they say, oh, oh, there was, you know, God bless
- 1:05:53every one of them that loses their life and hopefully they
- 1:05:56find their way to heaven. But there's a shooting somewhere
- 1:05:59then it really makes you wonder why the shooting was took place
- 1:06:03that day and what is really going on that they didn't want
- 1:06:06to be in the news. You know, that's the kind of
- 1:06:10thing we deal with constantly. So So the reality is, is that if
- 1:06:14humanity can be changed, then then we can no longer carry the
- 1:06:20image of the living God. We are the one species, whether
- 1:06:25it's the others on other planets or not.
- 1:06:29We are the one species that is most closely created to carry
- 1:06:33the image of the very creator with things we're supposed to be
- 1:06:38doing. So it's they're totally focused
- 1:06:42on keeping us from being who we're supposed to be on every
- 1:06:45level. So they dumbed down religious
- 1:06:48education. They they dumbed down the Bible.
- 1:06:52Oh my gosh. When I had this one fella one
- 1:06:54time come to me, Rod, and he said, brother, I'm really upset
- 1:06:58that you're using the new International version.
- 1:07:01I only used the Bible that Paul used.
- 1:07:03And I said, well, what is that? He said, well, the 1611 King
- 1:07:06James. And I went, Oh my gosh, I'm
- 1:07:08going to lose this battle here. The guy's in a knucklehead.
- 1:07:12Well, 1600 years after Paul, roughly speaking.
- 1:07:17And he's saying that's the one Paul used.
- 1:07:19So you see what we're up against.
- 1:07:22But the bottom line is, if those pastors who are a little bit
- 1:07:26resistant to frequencies and all those other things, you know how
- 1:07:30you shut people like that up? You say, hey pastor, can I pray
- 1:07:34for that person that's in a wheelchair and they get up and
- 1:07:39walk away? Hey pastor, that Lady over there
- 1:07:41has cancer. You pray for him and the cancer
- 1:07:44doesn't. It is no longer there.
- 1:07:48How about we we not just impart miracles because of relationship
- 1:07:52with the Heavenly Father, Son and Holy Spirit, but we actually
- 1:07:57start releasing A realm of miracles into and over people's
- 1:08:04lives. Well, who can do that?
- 1:08:08Only those that walk intently right into the heart of the
- 1:08:12Lord. That's what we're supposed to be
- 1:08:15looking like here Now. Am I there yet?
- 1:08:19No. But thankfully, in different
- 1:08:22seasons of my life, he's given me little snippets of what it's
- 1:08:26going to look like when this thing, when I get more toward
- 1:08:29the end. Well, I'm going to be 70 next
- 1:08:31month. So yeah, I figured I got about
- 1:08:34330 years left, give or take a few.
- 1:08:37But you know, bottom, bottom line is why should it be the
- 1:08:47scientific researchers that figure out how to lengthen
- 1:08:50people's lives? Why can't we get into heaven and
- 1:08:53and have heaven release something upon us that actually
- 1:08:58helps us live longer? So because think about it, OK,
- 1:09:01I've learned what I've learned in the last 50 years.
- 1:09:03So if I die in two years, then he's got to raise somebody else
- 1:09:07up, right? And then they live to be 72 or
- 1:09:10three, and then they die and they got to raise somebody else
- 1:09:12up. Why can't we live to be two or
- 1:09:14300 years? Well brother, because God
- 1:09:17limited man to 120. Yeah, but all that changed in
- 1:09:20basically 2012. We're in the end time push
- 1:09:23however long it's going to be. All bets are off on some of that
- 1:09:26stuff. That was just for a season.
- 1:09:29That's what heaven said. And so now it's just whoever
- 1:09:32wants to press in and that's what we're trying to enable
- 1:09:36people to do. And that's why you're to be
- 1:09:38commended for your podcast. And I and I and I pray a
- 1:09:42blessing over everything that you and others like you are
- 1:09:45doing. So that heaven literally will
- 1:09:48open up through these types of broadcast, telecast, Whatever.
- 1:09:55Wow, that's humbling. Yeah, I think that.
- 1:10:02Giving people a license to go where we're called to go.
- 1:10:06It is an interesting predicament to even be in.
- 1:10:09You know, the religious spirits need to come down.
- 1:10:12The denominational preferences need to fall down.
- 1:10:14We need living word, living water, the Rhema that you talked
- 1:10:18about Doc and meditating on the word and just going deep in our
- 1:10:21relationship. That's.
- 1:10:24Hey, I am struggling and stumbling along.
- 1:10:26The first time we talked, you said it pretty good to me.
- 1:10:28So Rod, you're stumbling along pretty well and I'm like, yeah,
- 1:10:31but I don't want to keep stumbling on forever.
- 1:10:34And a lot of us are right there in many ways where it's like we
- 1:10:38can feel something big is coming.
- 1:10:43We want to be like those priests that walk.
- 1:10:45Through the the curtain, but didn't get zapped exactly.
- 1:10:52Yeah, we got our work cut out for us, don't we?
- 1:10:56Well, but it's doable. You know why it's doable?
- 1:11:00Because Jesus did it. He's the one.
- 1:11:05The lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
- 1:11:09He always knew that he was going to be the one to set the higher
- 1:11:13mark. Amen.
- 1:11:18And a lot of what's going on you guys as listeners is just.
- 1:11:22We are washing our minds from a lot of misrepresentation of
- 1:11:28truth. We've had a lot of false ones go
- 1:11:30out before us. We had a lot of people dumb down
- 1:11:32the scriptures and try to put God in a box and limit your
- 1:11:36questions, limit your God-given abilities, and really, they try
- 1:11:41to supersede this religious arc over the masses of people and
- 1:11:46instill fear. And instill, you know this
- 1:11:49religious order and you guys we are not called to be fearful.
- 1:11:52So for my David's out there, keep killing those lion and
- 1:11:56those bears. Because Goliath is coming up
- 1:11:58here soon for many of us. And just and be encouraged, you
- 1:12:02guys. These episodes are here.
- 1:12:04If you're not at that place in your walk.
- 1:12:07I challenge you guys to pray about it in secret.
- 1:12:09Pray about everything. You hear me?
- 1:12:12Broadcast over here, but you take it before the Lord
- 1:12:15yourself. And another thing is we got to
- 1:12:18be willing to grow and listen to to what God is doing in this day
- 1:12:22and age. Because as the veils, thinning,
- 1:12:24as the enemies lining up, as all of these things are right here
- 1:12:27for us to witness. Are we going to sit here and
- 1:12:29twiddle our thumbs or are we going to actually dive deep in
- 1:12:35the rivers of living water? Are we going to allow the blood
- 1:12:39to do what it what it's? Called to do for us which the
- 1:12:43blood covereth we overcome by the blood of the lamb in our
- 1:12:45testimony. So are you working on your
- 1:12:48testimony audience, friends, family, my people?
- 1:12:53Are we working on our testimony? Are we going deeper with the
- 1:12:55Lord? So I'm hoping this episode
- 1:12:57challenged you guys. It edified you guys.
- 1:12:59It's bringing you deeper. And you know what doc?
- 1:13:03I just thank you for those those comforting and confirming words
- 1:13:06about hey, this broadcast is important.
- 1:13:09There is a place for this. It's not.
- 1:13:11Downtrodden and just thrown to the side there.
- 1:13:13There's something happening here that is causing some things to
- 1:13:17rise up. So I ask that you guys would
- 1:13:18pray for me and get We need to have the kind of heart where
- 1:13:22we're praying for each other. We're finding out who's who and
- 1:13:25we're willing to be. Have the humility to say,
- 1:13:28listen, let's come alongside each other, let's read this,
- 1:13:30let's pray about this. And let's talk these things out.
- 1:13:33But now we got to start walking these things out.
- 1:13:37So I'm hoping the prep of all of this is bringing us into a
- 1:13:40tighter and and the narrow path that we're called to.
- 1:13:43So Doc, as we kind of wind down just a little bit plug in where
- 1:13:46people can find you and I'm hoping this is not the last
- 1:13:50time. I'd love to see a part four.
- 1:13:53I just there's so many more places to go There's so much
- 1:13:56more to discuss but as. As we're finding ourselves to
- 1:14:02the end of this episode here, actually, I'm sorry, I'm going
- 1:14:06to cut that part out before. I'm going to cut that part out,
- 1:14:10Doc. So let me make a note 123 before
- 1:14:13we get there. I have a a question for you.
- 1:14:15OK, sure. Give give me in the audience doc
- 1:14:20some advice that you would have said to the younger you if you
- 1:14:24could go back 50 years to when you first got saved.
- 1:14:29What advice would you give to the younger you?
- 1:14:31This is going to touch somebody out there?
- 1:14:33I'm hoping this ripple effect will do what it's intended to
- 1:14:36do, but help us out with that question there.
- 1:14:39No, I I'd be. I'd be glad to.
- 1:14:41Well, first of all, let me say that I was always a God seeker,
- 1:14:44but I didn't know how to get to it until somebody introduced me
- 1:14:48to the plan of salvation. And then instantly I said this
- 1:14:51is it. This is where I'm at.
- 1:14:52So you know, I just I I always recognize that empty space
- 1:14:58inside of me. From the time I was a child, I
- 1:15:01just didn't know what it was exactly.
- 1:15:03But I knew that it had something to do with God.
- 1:15:07So as a young Christian, what I what I would have said to myself
- 1:15:12and I kind of did it a little bit, but I would have said in
- 1:15:16the beginning, make sure that what you're doing, what you're
- 1:15:22watching, what you're consuming on every level is of the highest
- 1:15:27possible quality and value. Watch who your friends are.
- 1:15:34Watch the things that you let distract you and focus on your
- 1:15:41developing a relationship with the Lord that is just like you
- 1:15:45would with a a spouse that you're dearly in love with.
- 1:15:50Get into the Word. Let the Word become alive to you
- 1:15:56and keep it up. Don't ever get too busy that you
- 1:15:58don't have time for the Word. Even though it's deeper than
- 1:16:03what the English says, there's still a lot of good stuff there.
- 1:16:10And then I would say don't be afraid of the supernatural
- 1:16:13because we serve a supernatural God and there's going to come a
- 1:16:16point. Now remember I'm going back and
- 1:16:18I'm advising this guy I'm like in a hoodie and he I got
- 1:16:21sunglasses on. He can't really see that it's me
- 1:16:23talking to me. So.
- 1:16:27So I'd say God has a plan for every one of us.
- 1:16:32They're actually books written in heaven.
- 1:16:36In time, you'll understand through relationship how to get
- 1:16:41an idea what's on those books. But all the things that you do
- 1:16:45through intimacy and through relationship and through the
- 1:16:48word are going to set you up to be able to speak those things
- 1:16:53out in faith, in, to operate in a supernatural level, that a lot
- 1:16:58of the people around you are going to have dumbed down and
- 1:17:00they're going to be happy with that.
- 1:17:02And they need to be unhappy with that, because what God has for
- 1:17:07you and what heaven has for you is so much greater than anything
- 1:17:12you're going to hear in most places.
- 1:17:14Don't settle for a piece of cake when you can have the whole
- 1:17:20thing and his name is Jesus and the rest of it'll just kind of
- 1:17:28take care of itself. And then I would probably close
- 1:17:34speaking to my young self and saying, if you look at life, and
- 1:17:38this is what I say to a lot of my customers when we get into
- 1:17:41the spiritual test that I do, If you look at life as maybe a
- 1:17:47train trip from New York City to Los Angeles on Amtrak, well, the
- 1:17:52tickets been paid for. You accepted Jesus as Lord and
- 1:17:55Savior. So get on the train.
- 1:17:58When you get on the train, you're going to be given an
- 1:18:00itinerary. Maybe day one you're going to be
- 1:18:03somewhere in West Virginia. I don't know exactly what a
- 1:18:07straight line would be, but sounded good enough.
- 1:18:10But you're going to be on a stop for several hours.
- 1:18:12So enjoy some of the local history and the color.
- 1:18:16Well, that's a season in our life.
- 1:18:18Well, Max, that season. Now, I would say to myself, make
- 1:18:22sure you're on the right train, that you stay focused on the
- 1:18:26destination and that in the seas that you are at the stop that
- 1:18:31you're supposed to be in that season, and if you are, God will
- 1:18:37always have heavenly resources for you because you're staying
- 1:18:41on your path. You don't need to worry about
- 1:18:47name it, claim it stuff. You don't need to worry about
- 1:18:49doing shady things to get money. The provision will always be
- 1:18:55there if you maintain the highest vision that he gives
- 1:18:59you. So be encouraged because the
- 1:19:05best is yet to come and it starts right now.
- 1:19:12Now, I would have been excited to hear that maybe ought to,
- 1:19:16maybe ought to go into the time loop thing and go back and talk
- 1:19:19to myself. And then the next time we meet,
- 1:19:21I'll be like way advanced from where I am.
- 1:19:23I don't know, you know the Mandela Effect, but in a good
- 1:19:26way. Wow, Doc.
- 1:19:30It's always an honor to. Connect with you.
- 1:19:34And this has been a roller coaster ride of an episode.
- 1:19:37Really. I mean, we've covered so much in
- 1:19:40such a a short time and I know this is going to help people out
- 1:19:45there as it's helping me. It will be in the show notes,
- 1:19:49but give them a verbal affirmation as to where people
- 1:19:51can find you. Doc.
- 1:19:51All right, well, it's it's really simple.
- 1:19:53It's Doc. DOC.
- 1:19:55And then my last name ROD as in David Ich So doc.rotage.com.
- 1:20:01When you get there, it's a pretty simple website.
- 1:20:04You'll see that on the left side are the three spiritual tests.
- 1:20:08I would recommend people not if they want any testing done.
- 1:20:11Don't waste your money unless you're actively engaging.
- 1:20:13Heaven. Those are for people that want
- 1:20:15to see OK here, I've been doing this work, where am I at?
- 1:20:19OK. Then on the other side is the
- 1:20:22nutritional part and it's very accurate because it comes from
- 1:20:26your own voice and it's going to be person specific.
- 1:20:30So if I tell you you need adrenal support, it's not
- 1:20:33because I'm guessing it's because your body's broadcasting
- 1:20:37that you have a deficiency. When you combine the 2 instead
- 1:20:40of 250 each, you get $100 discount.
- 1:20:44And also there's a link on the website to the book.
- 1:20:48You can go to lulu.com and type in my name and the book will
- 1:20:53come up. If you go to Amazon, not Kindle,
- 1:20:56but Amazon, you've got to type in.
- 1:20:58Moving towards sonship. If you type in my name for some
- 1:21:01reason it doesn't come up, but moving towards sonship then
- 1:21:04you'll see Doctor Robert Rotich and they'll have it to you in
- 1:21:07like two or three days. You know how Amazon is and
- 1:21:10there's a link there on how you can.
- 1:21:12If you want a a consultation you can purchase one.
- 1:21:16And also if you need to just communicate with me and ask me
- 1:21:19questions. There's an e-mail link and I'm
- 1:21:20always happy to get back with folks.
- 1:21:24Well, that's it. That's the episode, you guys.
- 1:21:27It's been an epic journey and in a lot of ways we're just getting
- 1:21:31started. So I'm going to ask you guys to
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- 1:21:39I don't care if you talk about it word of mouth, send the link
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- 1:21:50Coming to you from Southeastern PA.
- 1:21:54God bless and goodbye the,
- 1:23:06the, the,
- 1:24:28the.