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Katie spoke with Member for Solomon Luke Gosling about phishing scams and pensioner welfare cards · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Joining me live on the line right now is the
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  Speaker 1: Member for Solomon, Labour's Member for Solomon, Luke Goslin.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Luke, Good morning Cody. Parliament's sitting,
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  Speaker 2: so it's busy week.
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  Speaker 1: It would be a busy week. Look, we've just been
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  Speaker 1: talking about some of the uncertainty for territories at this
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  Speaker 1: point in time when it comes to those borders. I
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  Speaker 1: mean all around the nation right now, we're seeing different
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  Speaker 1: TACs when it comes to sort of opening up and
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to the vaccine and all sorts of things.
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  Speaker 1: I know you are obviously our federal member in Parliament.
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  Speaker 1: It just feels as though the country is very sort
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  Speaker 1: of dislocated at this point in time and not sort
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  Speaker 1: of stepping in sync with each other.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a good description of where we're at, Cody.
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  Speaker 2: A bit dislocated and the role of the National Cabinet
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to be to bring everyone together, but the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister Scott Morrison is you can't get a climate
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  Speaker 2: change policy together to take overseas shortly. And we had
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  Speaker 2: this outrageous situation yesterday in the Parliament where there's a blow.
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  Speaker 2: Christian Porter was a former cabinet minister who was given
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  Speaker 2: a million dollar donation. It's all secret as to who
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  Speaker 2: it was, so there was there was some tuing and
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  Speaker 2: proing in the Parliament yesterday at the time. Next we
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  Speaker 2: can't have politicians getting secret donations otherwise you don't know
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  Speaker 2: who's having influence. Yeah, well politicians.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I suppose you know that is obviously
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  Speaker 1: something that people are concerned about. Sorry, I wasn't talking
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  Speaker 1: about the I wasn't talking about the climate change. I
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  Speaker 1: know that that is obviously a big issue as well,
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  Speaker 1: but I was talking more so about COVID with those
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  Speaker 1: borders and US being a bit dislocated. But yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is. It's a tough thing.
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  Speaker 2: You were getting there, all right, go for it. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just trying to give there's a real lack of trust
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  Speaker 2: I think in government at the moment, and it's because
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  Speaker 2: that they're not listening and they're not upholding the standards
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  Speaker 2: that people expect, and they're not coordinating things through the
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  Speaker 2: national cabinet well, and they've been playing politics with this
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  Speaker 2: vaccine stuff. You know, Victoria is the worst. New South
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  Speaker 2: Wales is the best. Sort of stuff that doesn't really
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  Speaker 2: help anyone. So we need more trust in government and
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  Speaker 2: we need a more collaborative style of leadership, is basically
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  Speaker 2: what I believe. There is no doubt that if we're
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  Speaker 2: going to be able to open up, the only way
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  Speaker 2: we can do that safely is if we get enough
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  Speaker 2: people vaccinated. And I just want to thank everyone who
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  Speaker 2: has got vaccinated so far that you can see. Particularly,
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  Speaker 2: I think with the First Nation's community, some with very
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  Speaker 2: low vaccine rates, that there is a lack of trust,
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  Speaker 2: and I think, you know, the government's you got to
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  Speaker 2: take some responsibility for that. The federal government's role was
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  Speaker 2: to roll out the vaccine to those communities, and the
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  Speaker 2: problem particularly for tourism in Central Staia is one example.
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  Speaker 2: But also up here is that if we don't get
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  Speaker 2: those vaccine rates up, there's going to be carnage in
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  Speaker 2: our health system. I mean, people who get vaccinated eighty
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  Speaker 2: six percent least likely to get COVID and die. That's
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  Speaker 2: a fact. So I think we need a lot more collaboration.
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  Speaker 2: We need to be listening to people to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that everyone understands the consequences of us to the economy
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  Speaker 2: and to people's health and to people's deaths. So yeah, again,
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  Speaker 2: thanks to everyone who has got the vaccine. And I
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  Speaker 2: think we can do a lot more to work, from
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  Speaker 2: the federal government's perspective, to incentivize people, not just some people,
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  Speaker 2: but everyone. Incentivize everyone to get vaccinated to keep their
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  Speaker 2: loved ones and themselves safe.
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  Speaker 1: Now might that look Louke, do you think that there
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  Speaker 1: needs to be some kind of incentive pay or what
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  Speaker 1: do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was our policy, Anthony Albanesi, the federal labor
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  Speaker 2: leader said, and I stress everyone, not just some groups,
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  Speaker 2: but everyone. His idea was three hundred dollars. It would
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  Speaker 2: stimulate businesses in much the same way that our tourism
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  Speaker 2: vouchers have done for the tourism industry up here, and
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  Speaker 2: that you people have that bit of cash in their
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  Speaker 2: pocket that takes care of any time needed to take
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  Speaker 2: time off for work. But it also is a bit
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  Speaker 2: of an acknowledgment that you know, we're all doing this
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  Speaker 2: for not only ourselves but for other people, and it
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  Speaker 2: is going to keep people safes. So I would have
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  Speaker 2: liked to have seen that idea taken up. Whether it
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  Speaker 2: can happen federally now or not is another issue. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of working collaboratively listening to people
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  Speaker 2: and providing incentives because it's going to be good for
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  Speaker 2: everyone for us to open up. And I understand there's
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  Speaker 2: going to be quarantine from home coming soon to the territory.
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  Speaker 2: That's going to be good for people not having to
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  Speaker 2: have that extra expense of going through how Its springs.
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  Speaker 2: But it's got to be done safely with.
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  Speaker 1: Well it does. It needs to be done safely, and
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  Speaker 1: I reckon we're reaching a point where a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Territorians right now though, are just wanting a date as well,
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  Speaker 1: in terms of like Queensland's done and ounced obviously December seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: At that date, if you're fully vaxed into state, visitors
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  Speaker 1: who've recorded that negative COVID test in the past seventy
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  Speaker 1: two hours would be allowed to enter without having to
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  Speaker 1: go into quarantine. And I do think that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to find that more and more Territorians who have been
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  Speaker 1: vaccinated and want their family to be able to come
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  Speaker 1: and visit us here in the Northern Territory are going
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  Speaker 1: to want to see some kind of date from the
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  Speaker 1: Northern Territory government when it comes to being able to
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  Speaker 1: travel into our territory.
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  Speaker 2: Which is absolutely fair enough and totally understandable. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: again thanks to everyone has got vaccinated and I think
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  Speaker 2: that is coming of I've got a briefing coming up
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  Speaker 2: with the Chief Minister where I'm keen to get more
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  Speaker 2: of the details, So looking forward to that.
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  Speaker 1: Well we'll find out more about that. Hey, Luke, I
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  Speaker 1: want to ask you. I know that you spoke at
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  Speaker 1: lengths and we've spoken here on the show at length
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  Speaker 1: as well at different times about spam SMS messages and
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  Speaker 1: also these email scams that are going around what exactly
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  Speaker 1: happened in Parliament in this space and you're hoping that
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  Speaker 1: we'll maybe see some change. I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: exactly what can be done because much of it seems
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  Speaker 1: to sort of happen off our shores, but obviously reaches
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  Speaker 1: us here in the territory and Australia in general.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is Cadi. It it's something that's been brought
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  Speaker 2: up with me a lot, and I'm being smashed with
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  Speaker 2: these dodgy scam SMSs and I know it is causing
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  Speaker 2: stress to a lot of people's and it's obviously tricking
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  Speaker 2: some people are clicking on them. And can I just say,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if it doesn't it's not from someone you know,
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  Speaker 2: you don't click on it. And Telstra's doing a bit
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  Speaker 2: in this area. They're stopping about thirteen million calls a
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  Speaker 2: day from what I understand. But I gave a speech
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  Speaker 2: in Federal Parliment this week calling on the Australian government
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  Speaker 2: to take stronger measures where they can. Now that includes
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  Speaker 2: we may need to work more cooperatively with the telcos
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  Speaker 2: because they're going to need to substantially invest in fixing
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  Speaker 2: the problem, but they also need legislative backing to do
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  Speaker 2: so we've got to balance that with privacy issues as well.
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  Speaker 2: So they're not easy issues. But I feel and i'm
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  Speaker 2: listening to people who have contacted me about these scams
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  Speaker 2: and messas, they are really annoying. But what is really
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  Speaker 2: problematic is more and more people clicking on things because
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  Speaker 2: they might be waiting for a package store and they
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  Speaker 2: find themselves going down this wormhole and they're losing money.
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  Speaker 2: So we want to crack down. And I thank Telstra
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  Speaker 2: another Telcose for what they're doing, but I want the
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  Speaker 2: federal government to work a bit closer with them and
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  Speaker 2: really invest with them if they need to to keep
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  Speaker 2: people safe. And I did speak on cybersecurity in the
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  Speaker 2: Parliament again this week. Very important issues because it is
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  Speaker 2: the war that is ongoing right now. There are Australians
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  Speaker 2: that are countering. In fact, during our conversation right now, Katie,
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  Speaker 2: there'll be two cyber attacks on Australia.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy, it is really crossy stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It's a real concern.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Luke, Look we have run out of time, but
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  Speaker 1: we'll catch up with you again very soon.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Katie, thanks for letting me get in those little
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  Speaker 2: things at the started. For those who watch politics, it's
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  Speaker 2: a real concern that trust in politicians is at such
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  Speaker 2: a load. We need a federal eye CAC and I
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  Speaker 2: hope we can get one. Luke Gosling.
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  Speaker 1: Always good to catch up with you.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks mate, Cheers Katie,