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"We Don’t Trust the DOJ”: Inside the Push for a Special Master Over Epstein Records · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. One of the biggest issues with the Epstein
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  Discharge petition and the law that followed it is that
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  the law itself had no sort of mechanism to deal
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  with people who were not being compliant. And now, of
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  course we find ourselves in a position where the DOJ is, surprise, surprise,
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  not being compliant. And of course there's no teeth within
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  the bill itself or the law that holds anybody accountable
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  for their bullshit, and the Justice Department is certainly aware
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  of that, and that's why they continue to operate the
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  way they do. They know there's not gonna be any
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  trouble for them down the road. They know there's not
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  any kind of enforcement mechanism put in place or on
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  the books, so they can pretty much do whatever they want. Oh, sure,
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  they're gonna have to deal with some blowback, they're gonna
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  have to deal with people like you and I asking
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  questions and wondering what the fuck they're doing. But as
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  long as nobody wild with any power does anything to
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  stop them, they're going to continue doing what they're doing.
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  And that's because they know that if they just waited out,
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  there's going to be other disasters that people are going
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  to focus on. First we had Venezuela, then we just
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  had that horrible situation in Minnesota where that young lady
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  was shot by the Ice agents. And what they're banking
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  on is that you're too focused on all the other
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  tragedies in the world to stay focused on this. But
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  I think that's their biggest miscalculation because people can chew
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  gum and walk at the same time. People can focus
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  on multiple tragedies at the same time. So if they
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  think they're going to use these other crisis as some
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  kind of shield to avoid being transparent or to stop
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  them from following through with what the law demands, they
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  have another thing coming. And as you all know, I've
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  been calling for a special counsel from the very beginning,
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  and now Rocanna and Thomas Massey are looking to appoint
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  a special Master to oversee the whole process. And that's
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  because everybody knows that you can't trust the Justice Department
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  to do the right thing, so now they must be
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  compelled to do so. Unfortunately, I don't think a Special
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  Master goes far enough. Today's article is from The Guardian
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  and the headline, US congressmen ask judge to appoint official
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  the force release of all Epstein files. This article was
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  authored by Maya Young. Two US House of Representative members
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  have asked a federal judge to appoint the Special Master
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  to compel the Justice Department to release all files related
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  to Jeffrey Epstein, the disgraced financier and convicted sex offender.
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  On Thursday, Democratic Representative Rocana of California and Republican Representative
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  Thomas Massey of Kentucky asked US District Judge Paul Engelmeyer
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  to release the full Epstein files as required by the
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  Epstein Files Transparency Act. And they might be onto something here.
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  Judge Angelmeyers had enough of the bullshit, and you can
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  tell by the memorandums that he's filed and the opinions
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  that he has given throughout this case. This is a
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  man that has seen the nonsense up close, and he
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  knows that the DJ is playing games. He knows the
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  DJ was playing games when they asked for the Grand
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  Jerry documents instead of just releasing what they had. So
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  at this point, it's not like there's a lack of evidence,
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  there's a lack of willpower so who's going to step
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  up and do the right thing? And unfortunately nobody's done that.
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  We've had a lot of lip service. But where are
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  the files? The law demands that these files are released
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  by December nineteenth, and we only get twelve five hundred documents.
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  So yeah, I'd say that the Department of Justice has
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  been tested and found lacking. Criticizing the Justice Department for
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  not releasing the full set of files on last year's
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  December nineteenth deadline, Conna and Massey in a letters the
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  conduct by the DOJ is not only a flagrant violation
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  of the mandatory disclosure obligations under the Epstein Files Transparency Act,
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  but as this Court is recognized in its previous rulings,
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  the behavior by the DOJ has caused serious trauma to survivors.
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  And that's really what it comes down to. You know,
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  all of us are following along with the news, right Well,
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  the survivors, they lived it, and they're being re traumatized
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  every time these scumbags don't do the right thing. Instead,
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  all we gets a bunch of lip service and a
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  bunch of people play politics. As the leads of the
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  Epstein Files Transparency Act, we have urgent and grave concerns
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  about the DOJ's failure to comply with the Act, as
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  well as the department's violation of the court order, the
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  representative said, adding put simply, the DOJ cannot be trusted
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  with making mandatory disclosures under the Act. I think that's
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  the most glaring truth that's been told. Who trusts the
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  DOJ to handle this correctly? And make no mistake, I'm
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  not just talking about Trump's DJ, I'm talking about the
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  DOJ in general. When it comes to Epstein. They don't
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  want to talk about him because he's one of theirs.
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  Oh sure, maybe not an employee of the US federal government,
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  but certainly an asset. And if he wasn't, do you
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  think they'd be going through the motions the way they are.
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  Do you think they'd be causing themselves all this extra
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  pain and suffering if you will, of course not. If
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  Epstein was what they tell us, he is, just a
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  lone predator with some disgusting proclivities, then they'd be falling
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  all over themselves to release that documentation. But instead, here
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  we are fighting tooth andel to get the DOJ to
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  comply with a goddamn court order. Pointing to a Justice
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  Department core filing earlier this week stating that two hundred
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  and eighty five documents have been released, marking less than
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  one percent of all related file and that two million
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  more are under review. Conna and Massey cast a doubt
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  on those figures. Yeah, those figures seem like they're bogus
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  to me, very arbitrary. I mean, every time we turn
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  around and they need a new excuse, Oh we found
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  more files. Oh we had more files hanging out under
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  the filing cabinet. Well, you know where all the files
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  really are. Well, they're not in the possession of the DOJ.
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  They're in some vaulted Langley and there're zero chance we're
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  ever going to see them. Because these figures are self
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  reported and internally inconsistent with prior representation, there is reasonable
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  suspicion that the DOJ has overstated the scope of responsive material,
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  thereby betraying compliance as unmanageable and effectively delaying disclosure. They
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  said in the letter, and that's pretty much what I
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  think they're doing. They just want to slow the whole
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  process down. They want everybody to get tired, everybody to
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  find something else to be pissed. Off about and they
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  want to keep it moving, and that's always been the plan.
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  When we're talking about Jeffrey Epstein and the ongoing cover
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  up that still protects them. Conna and Massey also pointed
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  to the Justice Department's failure to submit required reports within
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  fifteen days of the deadline to the House and Senate
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  Judiciary committees detailing redactions and other records withheld from release.
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  They never had any plans of doing that. What they
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  wanted to do was drop all those documents and cause confusion.
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  How many people can navigate all the names, How many
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  people know all the stories? How many people know the
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  keywords to look for? Not very many? And that's what
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  they were relying on. And the end goal, of course,
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  is for you to throw up your hands in defeat
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  and say I've had enough. To date, no such report
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  has been provided. Without it, there is no authoritative accounting
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  of what records exist, what has been withheld, or why,
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  making effective oversight and judicial review far more difficult, they said.
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  As part of their request, Conna and Massey asked Engelmeyer
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  to allow an independent monitor to be given authority to
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  notify the court about the true nature and extent of
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  the document production and if improper redactions or other improper
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  conduct is taking place. And I think this is a
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  step in the right direction, but it doesn't go far enough.
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  I think that the only way to go here is
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  a special prosecutor, somebody that has the power to actually
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  hold people accountable, not just make recommendations to the DOJ.
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  Oh hey, I think you should hold yourself accountable. How
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  does that work out? Usually? Absent an independent process is
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  outlined above, we do not believe the DOJ will produce
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  the records that are required by the Act and what
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  it has represented to this court, the representative said. So
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  it's going to be really interesting to see what Judge
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  Ingelmeyer ends up deciding. And like I was saying earlier,
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  he seems to be at a point where he's done
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  with the bullshit. So I think that it's going to
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  be an uphill battle for the DC to keep these
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  files sealed, and to keep them sealed in a way
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  that is conducive to their plan, you know, the plan
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  to drip, the plan to release just a little bit,
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  the plan to give you just enough. Well, hopefully the
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  judge takes a look at that and sees it and
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  demands that the DOJ does the right thing, but again,
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  how do you enforce it? That's the real problem here.
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  There's no enforcement mechanism that was tied to that bill,
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  So you're at the mercy of the Justice Department or
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  the slow moving bureaucracy. Now, yesterday we were talking a
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  little bit about the OIG, but you wont know how
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  I feel about the OIG and what they can do
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  and what they can't do. So it's kind of just performative.
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  The only way to really get to the bottom of
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  this is with a special prosecutor with the power to
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  subpoena and the power to hold people accountable. Anything short
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  of that, we're just spinning our wheels in neutral. Now. Look,
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  might get some more information, we might get some more
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  fancy reports, but even when the OIG gets involved, nothing happens.
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  And as you're gonna see later on today when I
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  upload the alex Acosta interview with the OIG investigator, that
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  the OIG investigators really weren't buying alex Acosta's story. And
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  when you compare what a Costa said then to what
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  he says now, things just don't add up. And the
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  Justice Department is aware of that, and they know that
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  we'll put the pieces together when this documentation is released,
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  and that's why they continue to drag their feet. So
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  will a special Master do the trick? I don't think so.
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  But I think that row Conna and Thomas Massi are
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  certainly on the right path because the next step up
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  is an Inspector General or special counsel, and if we
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  really want to get to the bottom of this, that's
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  where we start. All of the information that goes with
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  this episode can be found in the description box.