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- 1:27Speaker 1: the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network. I am Chad Millman.
- 1:32Speaker 1: I'm looking at my co host Simon Hunter right now.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Professional Sports Better. Good morning, Simon? Is it a good
- 1:39Speaker 1: morning chat? Is it? It's not? Simon? It's Tuesday morning.
- 1:44Speaker 1: As everyone knows, we're feeling sick today. Big Bills podcast here,
- 1:48Speaker 1: Big Bills podcasts so much to break down. We're not
- 1:52Speaker 1: going to spend too much time because I wonder what
- 1:54Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin would recommend we do. Last week was last week,
- 1:57Speaker 1: This week was this week. Next week we'll be next week.
- 2:00Speaker 1: We got to go through the full slate. We will
- 2:02Speaker 1: get to the Simon says better the week that you
- 2:04Speaker 1: gotta bet right away. We hit the Steelers last week.
- 2:06Speaker 1: We'll talk about some Scooch Roulette. Big day for us, Simon.
- 2:11Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, Tuesday morning, December seven, day that we'll live
- 2:16Speaker 1: in infamy. I'm driving to Philadelphia after this podcast, taking
- 2:20Speaker 1: my kid back to school for twenty four hours. You know,
- 2:22Speaker 1: we had his broken leg. He's got to follow up
- 2:25Speaker 1: with the surgeon who did his leg surgery in Philadelphia.
- 2:28Speaker 1: You and I are having dinner tonight. You and I
- 2:30Speaker 1: are hitting writtenhouse square and we're gonna light this ship up.
- 2:35Speaker 1: You found one of the only British pubs in all
- 2:37Speaker 1: of Philadelphia, so I'm pretty impressed. Their fishing ships is good.
- 2:40Speaker 1: But they make a legit unreal burger. So that's one
- 2:43Speaker 1: of the rare times I passed on the fishing ships
- 2:45Speaker 1: and I go to the burger. You've been to this place.
- 2:47Speaker 1: I mean, I'm from Philly. Bro, Dude, We're hitting the Dandelion.
- 2:51Speaker 1: We're gonna love it. All we're gonna do is celebrate
- 2:54Speaker 1: our friendship and our love for each other. We are
- 2:57Speaker 1: not going to celebrate the Buffalo Bills. We are not
- 3:00Speaker 1: going to celebrate the Denver Broncos. We are not going
- 3:03Speaker 1: to celebrate the Chicago Bears. I wish we were celebrating
- 3:07Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. So recap for everybody. Simon, Simon Hunter
- 3:16Speaker 1: and I for a month had been the best betters
- 3:18Speaker 1: in the world, four and one in our best five,
- 3:20Speaker 1: four and one our best five, three and two in
- 3:22Speaker 1: our best five. This weekend we went two and three
- 3:24Speaker 1: Sunday morning. We love the Steelers, spot on, We love
- 3:28Speaker 1: the Chargers generally spot on. They tried to throw it away.
- 3:32Speaker 1: We had talked all week about the Lions, then on
- 3:35Speaker 1: Sunday morning we chickened out. I don't know why we
- 3:38Speaker 1: went with the Bears. I very specifically remember saying if
- 3:41Speaker 1: the Bears lose, this is on you, so congrats. We
- 3:44Speaker 1: went with the Broncos, which you know was a coin
- 3:47Speaker 1: flip nine. It was a nine and a half ten
- 3:49Speaker 1: and a half point spread the Bills game last night,
- 3:52Speaker 1: and I'm sorry to even have to spend two minutes
- 3:54Speaker 1: on it because Matt Mitchell was the biggest Bills fan.
- 3:56Speaker 1: We know that was a gut punch that was awful.
- 4:00Speaker 1: And I'm not a big social media person regardless, but
- 4:02Speaker 1: apparently I follow a lot of Patriots fans, so it's awful.
- 4:05Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know what it's like, but when
- 4:07Speaker 1: you're single, you're not in love, seeing people in love,
- 4:10Speaker 1: seeing them share pictures of their kids, it makes you sick,
- 4:13Speaker 1: it really does. You're just like, fuck you and your happiness.
- 4:16Speaker 1: It's one of those That's why I felt with the
- 4:17Speaker 1: Patriots last night. All these pads fans, how how would
- 4:21Speaker 1: you take the Bills? Like what? What an idiot? All
- 4:23Speaker 1: this stuff, and it's just like, all right, you got me.
- 4:25Speaker 1: You guys have won seventh straight, your QB through it
- 4:27Speaker 1: two times and you want so it's you just gotta
- 4:31Speaker 1: swallow and move on to the next week. Because they're
- 4:33Speaker 1: right that that was That was the typical You just
- 4:35Speaker 1: play the number. You kind of don't think about the teams.
- 4:38Speaker 1: And I know, I don't know if you watched the
- 4:39Speaker 1: little game. I knew it was gonna happen in there.
- 4:41Speaker 1: The Bills were gonna score, and they were gonna kneel
- 4:43Speaker 1: on that two point. I mean, it's like kicking extra point.
- 4:46Speaker 1: They're gonna neel it down. So I kind of had
- 4:48Speaker 1: a false hope we're gonna cover the number two and
- 4:50Speaker 1: a half three, but we knew, we knew it was
- 4:52Speaker 1: a dead number. Kind of yeah, you're right about that.
- 4:55Speaker 1: If if we're getting into two and a half, which
- 4:57Speaker 1: is what we were getting it at, it's an automatic
- 4:59Speaker 1: take to even we match teams playing at home, you
- 5:02Speaker 1: get them less than a field goal. You take that
- 5:05Speaker 1: team every single time, even in retrospect, we'd have to
- 5:08Speaker 1: do it again. I went to sleep. Midway through the
- 5:13Speaker 1: third quarter, I think the Patriots, for the thirty seventh
- 5:17Speaker 1: time in a row, ran the ball off tackle for
- 5:20Speaker 1: ten yards. The Bills acted like they had no idea
- 5:23Speaker 1: it was coming, couldn't tackle anybody, and I'm like, I'm done.
- 5:27Speaker 1: I gotta drive for a long time tomorrow I'm ready.
- 5:30Speaker 1: I mean, like you're right about Detroit. My whole thing
- 5:33Speaker 1: for Detroit was again, I mean you talked in the morning,
- 5:36Speaker 1: we had Washington, we had Detroit, and we swapped them
- 5:38Speaker 1: out for Denver and the Bills that can that killed us.
- 5:41Speaker 1: So those are one of those Yeah, we we just
- 5:44Speaker 1: hate that when we we take we switched out too
- 5:46Speaker 1: easy winners for you know, primetime losses. It sucks losing
- 5:50Speaker 1: primetime games because it's just standalone. So it's just like extra,
- 5:53Speaker 1: like uh, nothing, nothing to flip to. You just have
- 5:55Speaker 1: to sit there and watch it. But Detroit, that was
- 5:59Speaker 1: I mean, I talked about it. If that line moved
- 6:01Speaker 1: the six and a half, that was gon a max
- 6:03Speaker 1: bet and unfortunately took a while to get there, so
- 6:06Speaker 1: I didn't get as much money down as I wanted,
- 6:07Speaker 1: just because again it's it's tough trying to get money
- 6:11Speaker 1: in at the last minute. With all these sports books
- 6:13Speaker 1: um in person, there's just a lot of people trying
- 6:16Speaker 1: to get their own bets, and so it is tough
- 6:18Speaker 1: trying to do that. But that Lions game that I
- 6:20Speaker 1: feel like, that's the pinnacle of our podcast. We we
- 6:23Speaker 1: we stayed away from the lines money line all year
- 6:25Speaker 1: and we just talked about it. It It was just that
- 6:27Speaker 1: perfect spot where you're getting the Kirk Cousins magic. Kirk
- 6:30Speaker 1: always always messes up in those games, and he did,
- 6:34Speaker 1: and he did all right in the second half that
- 6:36Speaker 1: golf drive. Again, I feel like we used up all
- 6:38Speaker 1: of our luck. We had that last second win and
- 6:41Speaker 1: then we had a last second, straight up win with
- 6:43Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. A lot of things went our way
- 6:45Speaker 1: and then it just flipped other way like that scoop
- 6:48Speaker 1: and score by Denver completely changed that game. They literally
- 6:51Speaker 1: hit the ball out of Kelsey's hands. Even Rabels tweeting
- 6:53Speaker 1: at the NFL being like, look at the rules, that's
- 6:56Speaker 1: that's a catch and fumble. Scoop and score by Denver.
- 6:59Speaker 1: They flipped it. They said, it's not you know, no
- 7:02Speaker 1: regrets if you if you told me. The offense of
- 7:04Speaker 1: Kansas City was only gonna score fifteen points, we'd probably
- 7:08Speaker 1: take Denver. I mean, that's that's just one of those positions.
- 7:10Speaker 1: So it's tough. But at the same time, we got
- 7:13Speaker 1: to move on to the next week. Right, we're on
- 7:15Speaker 1: the Week four team. Also, we love the Falcons, and
- 7:19Speaker 1: that was that game. That game ended with a meaningless
- 7:22Speaker 1: kick in the final two minutes, like to go from
- 7:25Speaker 1: ten to thirteen. We had him at ten and a half.
- 7:28Speaker 1: I can't I can't argue with any of our handicaps
- 7:31Speaker 1: with this guy, Gauge. He dropped the ball in the
- 7:34Speaker 1: end zone the very end of the game that would
- 7:35Speaker 1: have hit the over and cover for Atlanta. That was seriously.
- 7:39Speaker 1: The only thing I can be upset about is that
- 7:41Speaker 1: we took out those two teams, which, by the way,
- 7:45Speaker 1: that's probably my fault. I think I remember very clearly
- 7:47Speaker 1: when we were going over to the final five, where
- 7:50Speaker 1: you're like, I want to put these two teams in.
- 7:52Speaker 1: I'm like, we didn't even talk about these teams all week.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Why would we put these teams in. We do this
- 7:57Speaker 1: every week. We take out the teams that we love
- 8:00Speaker 1: the entire week, and we put in teams that we
- 8:02Speaker 1: don't even talk about, of course, other than the Bears.
- 8:05Speaker 1: You were right about everything else. H Well, guess what.
- 8:08Speaker 1: We'll toast each other tonight and we'll, uh, you know,
- 8:11Speaker 1: we probably don't even talk about betting. We'll probably talk
- 8:14Speaker 1: about life, talking about being in love, not being in love,
- 8:17Speaker 1: the joys a Jesus Christ. Man, it's hard, and there's
- 8:22Speaker 1: an extra week of this ship this year. I wish
- 8:24Speaker 1: you never ended, man, I mean this this season was
- 8:26Speaker 1: so much fun, just the underdogs, the outright winners for
- 8:29Speaker 1: these underdogs. It's just been we went ever see this
- 8:32Speaker 1: ever again? Like you look at the n FC title
- 8:34Speaker 1: picture Patriots or what nine and four leading the way,
- 8:37Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's just a wild time right now, all right.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers at Minnesota Vikings. Vikings about three three and
- 8:49Speaker 1: a half points depending on the book favorites. Money coming
- 8:53Speaker 1: in right now as we speak, money coming in on
- 8:56Speaker 1: the Steelers. Big money just came in on the Steelers.
- 8:59Speaker 1: I'm looking at the network odds page. M it feels
- 9:03Speaker 1: like Kings there you go. Yeah, and like I hate
- 9:07Speaker 1: this game because there's no way I'm gonna make it
- 9:08Speaker 1: one of our five. But we we have to take
- 9:11Speaker 1: the Vikings here as long as it doesn't get above four.
- 9:14Speaker 1: I think I've seen some books. Now minus three and
- 9:16Speaker 1: a half a little scary because we talk all the
- 9:18Speaker 1: time about Tomlin as a dog, the greatest of all time,
- 9:21Speaker 1: look at your work. But after such a huge emotional
- 9:24Speaker 1: win last week for Pittsburgh, any of the Vikings coming
- 9:27Speaker 1: off a huge loss on the road coming home, we
- 9:30Speaker 1: love we love Minnesota this position, so I'll be betting it.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Maybe we'll change my mood Thursday morning because I just
- 9:36Speaker 1: can't even think about putting the Vikings in right now,
- 9:39Speaker 1: but we'll be on it, especially if it's at minus three.
- 9:41Speaker 1: That's a great number to take with this Minnesota team
- 9:43Speaker 1: that we saw that was kind of Pittsburgh super Bowl.
- 9:47Speaker 1: You're expecting to let down game, you're expecting to bounce
- 9:49Speaker 1: back from Minnesota. Don't ever think this when you just
- 9:51Speaker 1: take the home team here at minus three. Yeah, I
- 9:54Speaker 1: think that's exactly what it is. You bet on the
- 9:56Speaker 1: team that didn't cover the week before, you bet against
- 9:59Speaker 1: the team that did cover the I wish, I wish
- 10:01Speaker 1: it was that easy, but yeah, there's a lot more
- 10:04Speaker 1: goes into it. Pretty much in the basics. Yeah, that's
- 10:06Speaker 1: that's a perfect way of put in mixed case, that's
- 10:08Speaker 1: kind of what it is. Yeah, a little bit. Meanwhile,
- 10:10Speaker 1: the Ravens, who are now down Marlon Humphries, they have
- 10:13Speaker 1: looked inconsistent and challenged on offense all year. They really
- 10:17Speaker 1: don't have any running backs. Uh, They're on the road,
- 10:21Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns. The Browns are very short
- 10:27Speaker 1: home favorites. The Browns are two point home favorites right now.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Interesting line. We knew the public is gonna come and
- 10:33Speaker 1: have you on this Browns team, and the fact that
- 10:35Speaker 1: hasn't even moved the minus three makes me kind of
- 10:37Speaker 1: love the Ravens. I I origining, I was thinking myself, Okay,
- 10:40Speaker 1: this would be a perfect time backs back this Brown's team.
- 10:43Speaker 1: They lost this team six, then had a bye week.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Now you're getting them at home. You expect the Browns
- 10:48Speaker 1: team to play much better year. Everything I'm here in
- 10:51Speaker 1: the reports out of the Browns facility is they gave
- 10:54Speaker 1: the whole team off and when they came back. Baker
- 10:56Speaker 1: has not his his his injuries the season. I mean,
- 10:59Speaker 1: he's gonna be Len been, He's gonna be a little
- 11:01Speaker 1: off till the rest of the season. We're gonna wait
- 11:04Speaker 1: and see what the deal is with the old line
- 11:05Speaker 1: here for this Browns team. If they if they're they
- 11:08Speaker 1: had two starters out the game against the Ravens. That's
- 11:11Speaker 1: a big deal for this old line. They're they're one
- 11:13Speaker 1: of the best old line units. Their backups just aren't
- 11:15Speaker 1: as good as their starters. So sitting here on Tuesday,
- 11:19Speaker 1: I really do like the Ravens. So this is I
- 11:21Speaker 1: could see this be one of our bests, just in
- 11:22Speaker 1: the simple fact that the line is finally catching up
- 11:26Speaker 1: to them. Like last week we talked about they're overvalued.
- 11:29Speaker 1: This is the right value for them. They should be
- 11:32Speaker 1: plus three plus two and a half. That's a good
- 11:33Speaker 1: number and divisional matchup we're getting. I know you can
- 11:37Speaker 1: say they're a banged up team. Everyone's talking about how
- 11:39Speaker 1: they've lost everyone, especially the quarnerback position, running back position,
- 11:43Speaker 1: offensive line. They've just had major injuries. In this Ravens
- 11:46Speaker 1: team that we talked about, they're the most one of
- 11:48Speaker 1: the more over rated number one seeds. We knew that
- 11:50Speaker 1: injuries are gonna catch up to them. I think the
- 11:53Speaker 1: Browns in the same position. They're they're not healthy either,
- 11:55Speaker 1: just becomes they come up to buy what doesn't mean
- 11:57Speaker 1: they're healthy. Everything I've heard is they haven't really recover
- 12:00Speaker 1: from the injury. So if they're still down offensive linement
- 12:03Speaker 1: this Browns team and I need to take a more
- 12:05Speaker 1: beat up team and get points, I'll take the Ravens.
- 12:07Speaker 1: I'm happy to take it up plus three. When you
- 12:10Speaker 1: say everything you've heard, meaning, are you hearing things that
- 12:14Speaker 1: I'm not hearing? Are you reading things that I'm not reading? Yeah,
- 12:18Speaker 1: I've heard from a couple of different guys who talked
- 12:19Speaker 1: to you know, people within the Browns organization that they
- 12:22Speaker 1: just a lot of players in team, like you know coaches,
- 12:26Speaker 1: a different bunch of different build lost faith in Baker.
- 12:28Speaker 1: They feel like they love his toughness, there's no doubt
- 12:32Speaker 1: about that. But he's just up with your eying the
- 12:34Speaker 1: team right now. You can't say they wouldn't be better
- 12:37Speaker 1: without case Keenum in there. I mean, Baker cannot make
- 12:40Speaker 1: the throws he needs to make right now. And the
- 12:42Speaker 1: biggest thing with Baker was his mobility. He's a little guy,
- 12:45Speaker 1: so you have to move around, get outside the pocket.
- 12:47Speaker 1: You can't move right now. So I mean, obviously I
- 12:49Speaker 1: know about his arm injury. There's obviously something going on
- 12:51Speaker 1: his lower body as well. So just looking at from
- 12:54Speaker 1: that standpoint, from what I'm hearing from different guys who've
- 12:56Speaker 1: talked people in the organization, it feels like the Browns
- 12:59Speaker 1: are just in the wrong direction where this Ravens team,
- 13:03Speaker 1: I'm happy to back them off that kind of loss. There. Um,
- 13:06Speaker 1: they're just a resilient team this year. We've seen it
- 13:08Speaker 1: all year, even in that game against Pittsburg, the fact
- 13:11Speaker 1: that they drove that whole field and had a chance
- 13:13Speaker 1: to win that game three very end. That's that's why
- 13:15Speaker 1: you like to take the Ravens. Whenever you're getting points
- 13:17Speaker 1: for this team, you don't really want to take him
- 13:18Speaker 1: as favorites. But when you're getting points, that's when you
- 13:20Speaker 1: take the Ravens. It's not Baker's fault. He's playing Kevin
- 13:24Speaker 1: Stefancy could take him off the field and put case
- 13:26Speaker 1: Keenan in. That's fair. I mean, that's also that's just
- 13:29Speaker 1: loyalty thing. Though. If like Bakers your number one quarterback,
- 13:32Speaker 1: he says he's good enough to play, you let him play.
- 13:35Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's kind of how it goes. He's
- 13:37Speaker 1: tied to these quarterbacks. I also love how John Harbaugh,
- 13:40Speaker 1: when asked why he went for two, said, we don't
- 13:43Speaker 1: have any cornerbacks. We're done, like our team is cooked.
- 13:46Speaker 1: We couldn't, we couldn't play over time. No, I'm I'm
- 13:50Speaker 1: with him though. That was that was crazy. They were
- 13:52Speaker 1: literally down to I think three corners Las Vegas Raiders
- 13:56Speaker 1: at Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefs are nine point favorites here.
- 14:00Speaker 1: This is a prose Joe's game right now, Right now,
- 14:04Speaker 1: I think I love the Raiders here. I don't nothing.
- 14:06Speaker 1: You know, when we went into the Broncos Chiefs game,
- 14:10Speaker 1: we were saying ourselves, the Chiefs can't cover big numbers.
- 14:13Speaker 1: There's nothing from that game that makes me think they can,
- 14:17Speaker 1: like nine, that that score is not reflective of what
- 14:22Speaker 1: I would look at in the box score. And that's
- 14:25Speaker 1: what you have to do, is a better You have
- 14:27Speaker 1: to look beyond the final score. To me, this still
- 14:29Speaker 1: feels like a Raider's play. Yeah, every little thing had
- 14:32Speaker 1: to go right for the Chiefs cover that number. They
- 14:33Speaker 1: had the pick six, They had the twenty play, eleven
- 14:37Speaker 1: minute drive by Denver for zero points, which takes someone
- 14:40Speaker 1: posts the first time it happened. Since nothing's gonna change here, Well,
- 14:44Speaker 1: we'll keep even if the public's riding again, We'll take
- 14:46Speaker 1: the public dog and we'll take Las Vegas Raiders. Here
- 14:51Speaker 1: the autumn win is a raider pillaging just for fun.
- 14:56Speaker 1: But man, what is wrong with the Chief's offense. It's
- 14:59Speaker 1: bizarre or Mahomes he doesn't know want to take a
- 15:02Speaker 1: little off the ball, and he keeps throwing these like
- 15:04Speaker 1: bullets at these players that they're not ready for it.
- 15:06Speaker 1: It hits him in the hands of the chest pops
- 15:08Speaker 1: with any other team picks it. They keep having these
- 15:10Speaker 1: stupid turnovers. This this uh Chiefs team. So it's crazy
- 15:14Speaker 1: to think that they're five and one to win the
- 15:16Speaker 1: Super Bowl right now. So are the Patriots. It's a
- 15:18Speaker 1: wild time right now in the NFC. So I'm still
- 15:21Speaker 1: not there with this Chiefs team. That nothing. They haven't
- 15:24Speaker 1: done anything to really show me that they deserve to
- 15:26Speaker 1: be a nine and a half point favorite, eight and
- 15:28Speaker 1: a half point favorite against someone like this Las Vegas team.
- 15:31Speaker 1: I know you can say Las Vegas has done they've
- 15:32Speaker 1: given up on the season. I didn't think that at all.
- 15:34Speaker 1: I thought they played really hard against that Washington team
- 15:36Speaker 1: they're in at the entire game. I mean they're leading
- 15:39Speaker 1: to that last second field goal. So you know, I'll
- 15:43Speaker 1: it's scary because what would just happen with Denver. We
- 15:45Speaker 1: have to put that out of mind. We have to
- 15:46Speaker 1: move on to this week. This is just a smart number.
- 15:49Speaker 1: We'll take Las Vegas here. I will tell you as is.
- 15:51Speaker 1: As is often the case, I've mentioned this before. Tuesday mornings,
- 15:55Speaker 1: it's not a workout there for me. I usually take
- 15:58Speaker 1: a little bit more time. I take the for a
- 16:00Speaker 1: walk and I'll be Putson around or whatever, and I'll
- 16:04Speaker 1: forget about things. I'll get into work, I'll respond to emails.
- 16:06Speaker 1: I got a very important job. I got a bunch
- 16:08Speaker 1: of meetings. Chad Millman is proud of himself. And then
- 16:12Speaker 1: I'll remember, oh ship we're doing in the podcast today.
- 16:15Speaker 1: Oh shit, this was a painful weekend that I have
- 16:18Speaker 1: to relive. And usually three or four games in, I'm
- 16:21Speaker 1: ready to roll, you know what I mean. And like
- 16:23Speaker 1: this Raiders Chiefs game, I look at it and I'm like,
- 16:26Speaker 1: I see this. I don't think other people see it.
- 16:29Speaker 1: I see it. I see the Raiders being a team
- 16:32Speaker 1: that people want to jump off. They only see the
- 16:34Speaker 1: final score. I see people seeing the Chiefs winning by thirteen,
- 16:38Speaker 1: thinking oh they're back, not looking at the sort of
- 16:41Speaker 1: inner workings of the game. I got a best five
- 16:44Speaker 1: right here? Wow, all right? I mean I can't argue
- 16:47Speaker 1: with it. What is the public does? Because that was
- 16:49Speaker 1: painful and Ravell said, the public goes all over Denver.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Me and you both are just like h we don't
- 16:54Speaker 1: like to hear that. I know, I know, I know.
- 16:58Speaker 1: Darren Ravel got me a really nice gift. He got
- 17:01Speaker 1: me a ticket to the YouTube concert for Joshua Tree
- 17:05Speaker 1: at Rosemond Horizon, in a concert that I missed because
- 17:09Speaker 1: my friends were going. I had tickets. I decided to
- 17:11Speaker 1: blow it off because my girlfriend at the time wanted
- 17:13Speaker 1: to go see a haunted house. It was Halloween weekend.
- 17:16Speaker 1: We want to see the hunted house. We broke up
- 17:19Speaker 1: and my friends were on the news for starting the
- 17:22Speaker 1: wave at the YouTube concert. Thirty years later, Youtuo was
- 17:25Speaker 1: doing a Joshu which Re anniversary tour. I'm like, two
- 17:28Speaker 1: thousand seventeen is going to be the year. Yes, I'm
- 17:30Speaker 1: going to all these concerts. Two weeks before I go
- 17:33Speaker 1: to the concert, my Currents, the Presidents Turning Group, emails
- 17:36Speaker 1: me out of nowhere. I don't know the guy and says, hey,
- 17:38Speaker 1: you want to have lunch in New York. Sometimes I'm like, listen,
- 17:40Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in San Francisco for the concert for
- 17:43Speaker 1: you too. Why don't we just have lunch that day.
- 17:46Speaker 1: That was the first day he tasked me about what
- 17:48Speaker 1: would become Action Network, And so Darren brought me the
- 17:51Speaker 1: ticket to the YouTube concert from seven at Full Circle
- 17:56Speaker 1: Full Circle. Dallas Cowboys at Washington Football Team. The Washington
- 18:02Speaker 1: Football team four point dogs. Dude, got check time, Foxhole.
- 18:11Speaker 1: Let's climb down into the Foxhole foxhol You know it.
- 18:18Speaker 1: Even our fans knew. I had multiple messages They're like,
- 18:20Speaker 1: how much do you love Washington four and a half?
- 18:22Speaker 1: I was like, grab it now, grab that number right now.
- 18:24Speaker 1: I love it. This is a classic divisional matchup. Cowboys
- 18:28Speaker 1: still haven't looked right like that Saints team. It was
- 18:31Speaker 1: just bad in that game. That was the main reason
- 18:33Speaker 1: Dallas got away with that. You can say, well, Dallas
- 18:36Speaker 1: come off extended rest. Washington is just on a crazy
- 18:38Speaker 1: winning streak right now. They what is it, four straight
- 18:41Speaker 1: wins and covers by Washington something like that. So, man,
- 18:45Speaker 1: when when you're just looking at these two teams, on paper,
- 18:47Speaker 1: I get it. I get why people love Dallas, but
- 18:50Speaker 1: this feels like the same situation. We were all over
- 18:51Speaker 1: the Buccaneers when they came and played this team up
- 18:54Speaker 1: in Washington. You're getting a Dallas team that they like
- 18:58Speaker 1: the indoor, they like the turf, you're getting out in
- 19:00Speaker 1: the grass. Now you have a Washington team that's played
- 19:02Speaker 1: much better. And it's even weirder is that they've played
- 19:04Speaker 1: better ever since Chase Young has gone down. Like you
- 19:07Speaker 1: look at their defensive numbers, They've really have jumped these
- 19:10Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. So it's hard not to take
- 19:12Speaker 1: in a divisional matchup, you take that plus four, but
- 19:14Speaker 1: you have to do it. You can't be taking Dallas
- 19:16Speaker 1: favorite on the road and this kind of matchup. So
- 19:18Speaker 1: this feels like this is for the season of Washington.
- 19:20Speaker 1: If they win this game, they're gonna be probably be
- 19:23Speaker 1: a playoff team. So this is um this when these games,
- 19:26Speaker 1: I'll be on the plus where I'll be on the
- 19:27Speaker 1: money line. I'll be back in this Washington team. Do
- 19:30Speaker 1: we worry at all the fact that they have one
- 19:32Speaker 1: four in a row, they have covered there's gonna be
- 19:35Speaker 1: a regression that we're getting them at the top of
- 19:37Speaker 1: the market. It is, but we tried to fade that regression.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Last week. We tried to fade the Cardinals, who are
- 19:42Speaker 1: I think six and on the road against the spread.
- 19:44Speaker 1: We tried fading that didn't work. We tried to fade
- 19:46Speaker 1: the Patriots who were on a seven oh run. Didn't work.
- 19:49Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna try to think about that stuff
- 19:52Speaker 1: too much. I'll just try to play the numbers here
- 19:53Speaker 1: and if if I'm getting above a three, which I
- 19:55Speaker 1: think this line should be, I'm happy to take that
- 19:58Speaker 1: plus four. We played the chart just regression pretty well.
- 20:01Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe that's the only regression. We thought there
- 20:04Speaker 1: would be a Miami regression, and we'll get ours. I mean,
- 20:07Speaker 1: the best fade ever is gonna be if the Patriots
- 20:09Speaker 1: got the one seed, they're at home six point seven
- 20:12Speaker 1: point favorite against some crappy underdog team from the NFC,
- 20:15Speaker 1: and we take that crappy underdog's moneyline just because it's
- 20:17Speaker 1: gonna be fading Mac Jones, a rookie in the playoffs.
- 20:20Speaker 1: So we'll eventually get there. Just catching up to us
- 20:23Speaker 1: in the sense that I can't believe with the Patriots
- 20:25Speaker 1: doing I can't believe the cordinal is doing. I did
- 20:27Speaker 1: not see these two teams being where they're at come
- 20:29Speaker 1: this late in December. So that's one of those I'm
- 20:32Speaker 1: trying to adjust here on the fly because I'm clearly
- 20:34Speaker 1: not giving them either those teams enough credit. Next game,
- 20:37Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons at Carolina Panthers. The Panthers are three point favorites.
- 20:44Speaker 1: This is the ugly meeting the pathetic. No advantage here,
- 20:49Speaker 1: and I thought that was a smart line by them
- 20:51Speaker 1: because they know that, like, like, I'm just gonna take
- 20:53Speaker 1: the veteran quarterback around. I'm probably end up taking Matt
- 20:55Speaker 1: Ryan on the road, giving me the points plus three
- 20:59Speaker 1: plus three and a half half against I don't know
- 21:01Speaker 1: who the quarterback is gonna be for Carolina. They just
- 21:03Speaker 1: fired their O C. They're talking about how they want
- 21:06Speaker 1: to run the ball more, even though McCaffrey's out for
- 21:07Speaker 1: the season. It's it's a lot of a lot of
- 21:10Speaker 1: bs going on right nowf Carolina. So I know Elana
- 21:13Speaker 1: led us all down last week. That's kind of why
- 21:15Speaker 1: you want to take them here. There's not gonna be
- 21:17Speaker 1: many people back in the Lanta taking the points, so
- 21:19Speaker 1: it feels a kind of a pro number you're taking Atlanta,
- 21:21Speaker 1: and I'll be on it. But I don't love that
- 21:23Speaker 1: it sounded three. I wish it was still three and
- 21:25Speaker 1: a half. I'd feel way way more comfortable taking a
- 21:27Speaker 1: three and a half of this number. New Orleans Saints
- 21:30Speaker 1: at New York Jets. This is a wide discrepancy in
- 21:35Speaker 1: the number. It's at four and a half in some places,
- 21:38Speaker 1: it's at six in others. If you can get the
- 21:41Speaker 1: Jets plus six against the Saints, yeah, well right, we
- 21:44Speaker 1: have to do that. I don't want I don't want
- 21:46Speaker 1: to do it. It's so disgusting. But what the hell
- 21:49Speaker 1: the Saints they have a broken handed quarterback and Taysom
- 21:52Speaker 1: Hill or Trevor Simeon, which okay, we don't talk about enough.
- 21:56Speaker 1: This guy's their third stringer, fourth stringer. So it's so
- 21:59Speaker 1: crazy looking on the schedule. The fact that the Saints
- 22:01Speaker 1: with Winston went beat the Patriots like they dominated them
- 22:04Speaker 1: up in New England in September, And now what would
- 22:06Speaker 1: that spread beef? The Saints went up to New England
- 22:08Speaker 1: right now minus nine, minus ten with these backup quarterbacks.
- 22:11Speaker 1: So it's bad with the Saints the Jets, I thought,
- 22:14Speaker 1: Zack Wilson played well against the Eagles in the first half.
- 22:16Speaker 1: I think that eighteen points. Second half completely to neck.
- 22:20Speaker 1: He looked like he reverted back to being a rookie quarterback.
- 22:24Speaker 1: So don't really know we're getting from Zack Wilson. It's
- 22:27Speaker 1: it's either hot or cold with that kid. He's either
- 22:29Speaker 1: got it or he just loses it completely. But at
- 22:32Speaker 1: six points plus six at home, well we'll take the Jets.
- 22:35Speaker 1: But god, as this one gross. We know what's interesting.
- 22:38Speaker 1: Forget about the Patriots. Don't forget the Saints destroyed the
- 22:42Speaker 1: Packers in Week one. Yeah, yeah, and they beat Tampa.
- 22:45Speaker 1: It's bizarre. It's a bizarre year. It's a bizarre year.
- 22:48Speaker 1: It's a totally bizarre year. And the seventeen week season
- 22:51Speaker 1: actually makes it feel like even more of a grind,
- 22:54Speaker 1: even though we're like we're at the same point the
- 22:56Speaker 1: season we would always be. They're just adding the week
- 22:58Speaker 1: at the end, but it feels like because we're a
- 23:01Speaker 1: week what is it fourteen and there's still four weeks
- 23:05Speaker 1: to go. Five this week, Yeah, Jesus, I love it.
- 23:10Speaker 1: I mean that's what's funny, Like this is your job,
- 23:12Speaker 1: but it's not. At the same time, a lot of
- 23:14Speaker 1: people like non prosyre, like, man, this isn't this season long?
- 23:16Speaker 1: Isn't this grueling? It's like, no, this is the fucking
- 23:19Speaker 1: best man never end, keep it going. It's uh, it
- 23:22Speaker 1: feels like I'm getting a bonus week to make money.
- 23:24Speaker 1: So to me, I love it. But the longest points
- 23:28Speaker 1: to me, always feels like when the weather turns so
- 23:31Speaker 1: like November, that when you kind of hit that midway point,
- 23:33Speaker 1: you're just like, holy ship, we're only halfway up this mountain.
- 23:36Speaker 1: We've gotta keep going. But now we're you know, in December,
- 23:39Speaker 1: this is like playoff football, like that Pittsburgh Ravens game
- 23:42Speaker 1: that fell. The playoff football. That's that's my favorite time
- 23:45Speaker 1: of year, when it's like you're on the edge of
- 23:46Speaker 1: your seat and just sweating because you know every little
- 23:48Speaker 1: play now matters. Like Eagles fans, we were a static
- 23:52Speaker 1: Detroit one because now we have a chance of getting
- 23:54Speaker 1: that seven spot in the playoffs, like we need the
- 23:56Speaker 1: Vikings to lose. So that's the fun part now is
- 23:58Speaker 1: like you're Scott always the teams watching all these games
- 24:01Speaker 1: because you're trying to figu out how the hell it
- 24:02Speaker 1: affects your team making the playoffs. Scenario. Even though Eagles suck,
- 24:05Speaker 1: I have zero five, they're gonna want a playoff game.
- 24:07Speaker 1: I still want to get in, right, Yeah. Meanwhile, Bears
- 24:10Speaker 1: fans stink, can't keep the ball from being turned over,
- 24:15Speaker 1: and we don't have a number one pick next year,
- 24:16Speaker 1: so there's no even there's not even an upside. I'm losing.
- 24:19Speaker 1: Oh my god, I forgot you guys traded that for fields.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Yeah that's tough. Maybe no naggy though, that's the silver lining. Right.
- 24:26Speaker 1: We'll see Jacksonville Jaguars at Tennessee Titans. I cannot bet
- 24:32Speaker 1: on this Jaguars team. The line is eight and a half,
- 24:36Speaker 1: eight and a half to nine and a half, so
- 24:37Speaker 1: you can get the Jaguars a plus nine and a half. God,
- 24:40Speaker 1: apologize Matt Mitchell. I mean I saw his picks. I
- 24:42Speaker 1: saw he live money line the Jags like I did too.
- 24:45Speaker 1: I was just I think it was like fourteen to
- 24:48Speaker 1: seven maybe the Rams, and I'm just like, the Rams
- 24:50Speaker 1: don't got it. This is gonna be a Jags come
- 24:52Speaker 1: back win. I was feeling good, especially at the Detroit win.
- 24:54Speaker 1: God was that a bad read? Rams just shelack them,
- 24:57Speaker 1: So you're dead right, I and make the people bet
- 25:01Speaker 1: this Jack's team. They just don't show life, and it's
- 25:03Speaker 1: hard to know what weeks they're gonna show up in
- 25:05Speaker 1: what weeks they don't. So I'm with you, we can
- 25:08Speaker 1: we can pass on this one. But Tennessee getting that
- 25:11Speaker 1: many points, it's it's weird and maybe that just says
- 25:14Speaker 1: more about the Jaguar team that they're that bad. But again,
- 25:17Speaker 1: they just got Julio back. You know how much of
- 25:19Speaker 1: our difference he's really gonna make for this Titans team.
- 25:21Speaker 1: But that's that's a big number. If you're back on
- 25:24Speaker 1: this team, the Titans is a favorite. Well, look, this
- 25:27Speaker 1: is not about the Titans at all. It's only about
- 25:31Speaker 1: the Jack just got blown out. The Titans in a
- 25:33Speaker 1: lot of people's mind are still an a f C contender,
- 25:37Speaker 1: and the bookmakers are completely the public's psychosis here. Yeah,
- 25:43Speaker 1: they moved to three points. I mean it opened six
- 25:44Speaker 1: and a half. They moved to nine and a half.
- 25:46Speaker 1: So that's big movement. Maybe I'll be able to flip
- 25:49Speaker 1: you by Thursday. But as we're sitting here right now,
- 25:51Speaker 1: I get it, like some of that keeps losing money,
- 25:53Speaker 1: the Jaguars, I get it. Yet, Well, you know what
- 25:56Speaker 1: I didn't lose money in the Jaguars this week because
- 25:58Speaker 1: I didn't bet them. I didn't met the Jags. Also,
- 26:01Speaker 1: we didn't bet the Texans, at least I didn't because
- 26:04Speaker 1: as I was sort of surveying the scene, there were
- 26:07Speaker 1: parts of me that felt, I know, I'm supposed to
- 26:10Speaker 1: play the big dogs in this spot. There was nothing
- 26:13Speaker 1: about that Texans game where I ever thought they had
- 26:16Speaker 1: a chance and they didn't. I mean they were they
- 26:18Speaker 1: were turning like the Colts were turning the ball over
- 26:20Speaker 1: and still ended up winning, you know, twenty to nothing
- 26:23Speaker 1: or whatever. So I never felt bad about that. Was
- 26:26Speaker 1: they do. I think I did like a seven team
- 26:28Speaker 1: round robin of all the home dogs and took all
- 26:30Speaker 1: their money lines. I think only Detroit and Pittsburgh hit
- 26:33Speaker 1: like Atlanta got blown out. I mean everyone just got all.
- 26:36Speaker 1: It was a big It was a big week for
- 26:37Speaker 1: the favorites. Honestly, it was a good week for Chalk
- 26:39Speaker 1: better so other than the vikings, like everyone's teasers came through.
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- 28:50Speaker 1: Let's get back to the show. Here's a number, speaking
- 28:54Speaker 1: of the Texans that we're going to have to think about.
- 28:57Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks at Houston, Texans Seattle big win this past
- 29:03Speaker 1: weekend is three and a half point dogs to the Niners.
- 29:06Speaker 1: Classic Pete Carroll's spot to cover, Classic Cayle Shanahan spot
- 29:12Speaker 1: to not cover the Seahawks seven and a half point
- 29:16Speaker 1: favorites on the road and this number is climbing. Yeah,
- 29:21Speaker 1: that was my worst miss of last week. I got
- 29:23Speaker 1: a lot of ship from a lot of pros I
- 29:25Speaker 1: knows for being all over forty, all over the under,
- 29:29Speaker 1: and they're just saying, man, you are the public. You
- 29:31Speaker 1: were such the public. Better right now? It's like, what
- 29:33Speaker 1: am I missing there? Like Seahawks in the over? You
- 29:35Speaker 1: gotta take it. Man. When they when they did that
- 29:37Speaker 1: fake punt, I think they took it like seventy yards. Yeah.
- 29:40Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, okay, this is a this
- 29:43Speaker 1: is a big mistake. So that was a perfect spot
- 29:45Speaker 1: to take the Seahawks. It's the perfect spot to fade them.
- 29:48Speaker 1: I hate betting on Houston. I hate backing a quarterback
- 29:51Speaker 1: that I have no faith in in this Houston team,
- 29:53Speaker 1: But big number. I think there's some crazy stat out there.
- 29:57Speaker 1: The team's playing the forty Niners one in eleven. Now,
- 30:01Speaker 1: straight up the flying weekend Guess who last week played
- 30:04Speaker 1: the Niners a week before Minnesota Vikings? Who lost to Detroit.
- 30:07Speaker 1: So if we want to keep riding that crazy trend
- 30:09Speaker 1: that these teams when they play the four nine ers,
- 30:11Speaker 1: they they're bad. The next week, play it, play Houston.
- 30:13Speaker 1: If that's the reason you need. That's my favorite weird
- 30:16Speaker 1: trend of the year so far is that teams that
- 30:18Speaker 1: play the four nine ers are one in eleven the
- 30:20Speaker 1: following week straight up. That's that's a bizarre stat that
- 30:23Speaker 1: just feels totally random. Totally, but I mean, Detroit won
- 30:28Speaker 1: last week. Nothing makes sense this year, but that does
- 30:30Speaker 1: the fact that the Vikings played the four nineers and
- 30:33Speaker 1: then lost. It's all weird chat. I don't know, I
- 30:35Speaker 1: just love that stat. I just kind of blew my mind.
- 30:38Speaker 1: I'm just looking at this thinking, all of a sudden,
- 30:40Speaker 1: people are betting on Russell Wilson and it's an opportunity
- 30:43Speaker 1: to take advantage. Yeah, and it's also that who the
- 30:46Speaker 1: hell are the Seahawks be favored by seven and a
- 30:47Speaker 1: half points exactly. That's that's the I'm just I just
- 30:50Speaker 1: do that trend out there because I thought it was
- 30:52Speaker 1: really interesting that it's kind of been there. It's yeah,
- 30:55Speaker 1: it's been a wonky year. That's a that's a weird
- 30:57Speaker 1: trend to hear about, like why would that affect is
- 31:00Speaker 1: playing the four Niners? But yeah, you just said it
- 31:02Speaker 1: on seven and a half. We'll keep waiting though, like
- 31:05Speaker 1: I would love to make this assignment, says play, it's
- 31:08Speaker 1: not worth taking right now. Just keep waiting. Maybe on Thursday,
- 31:10Speaker 1: this will be eight and a half nine because we
- 31:12Speaker 1: know who the quarterback would be for Houston. You know
- 31:14Speaker 1: what's fun. We're having dinner at night. I know I
- 31:17Speaker 1: can't wait, and you put it in at seven thirty.
- 31:19Speaker 1: I literally go to bed at seven, So that's gonna
- 31:20Speaker 1: be really fun. Detroit Lions at Denver Broncos. Broncos are
- 31:26Speaker 1: seven and a half point home favorites. All right, can
- 31:32Speaker 1: I give you my opinion on this game? Yeah, smash
- 31:34Speaker 1: the Broncos really Denver Broncos. Wow. So this is my
- 31:41Speaker 1: favorite thing to do is we did it last year
- 31:43Speaker 1: the Jets, and if you remember, the Jets had their
- 31:45Speaker 1: first win, then they came home, so that the Jets
- 31:48Speaker 1: had San Daran's quarterback. They beat the Rams last year,
- 31:50Speaker 1: then they came home and we were all in on
- 31:52Speaker 1: them beating might have been Tennessee at home. I forget honestly,
- 31:56Speaker 1: who it was, but I liked it. Back these teams
- 31:58Speaker 1: after their first win, like, I like to think they
- 32:01Speaker 1: can keep caring the momentum. Whe other people are like,
- 32:03Speaker 1: oh that was a super Bowl. They're gonna be a
- 32:04Speaker 1: huge leftdown game the next week Denver. You know, they
- 32:07Speaker 1: just got blown out, they just got dominated. I can't
- 32:10Speaker 1: be letting Teddy Bridgewater lay that many points. Okay, it's
- 32:13Speaker 1: painful to do this right now, but I'm gonna be
- 32:16Speaker 1: taking to Troit. I'll probably be taking de Troits money
- 32:18Speaker 1: line once again. Hello Detroit, all about situation value. Had
- 32:31Speaker 1: this line of four and a half. They're giving me
- 32:33Speaker 1: three and a half, four and four points towards the number. Man,
- 32:38Speaker 1: I hate to do, but I have to take the
- 32:40Speaker 1: lines once again. I have to take their money line again.
- 32:42Speaker 1: I know, but you look at the Broncos and the
- 32:45Speaker 1: defense gave up fifteen points. The Broncos should have won
- 32:48Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, you can do any kind of sort
- 32:51Speaker 1: of transitive property replacement Matthew want, but think about that
- 32:55Speaker 1: play drive with nothing, think about the scoop and score
- 32:59Speaker 1: everything more to anything that's ten points right there. My
- 33:03Speaker 1: biggest thing reason for liking Detroit here is the best
- 33:06Speaker 1: thing Denver does is shut down a passing offense. They
- 33:09Speaker 1: run two high safeties. That's why they're so good against
- 33:11Speaker 1: the pass, and they're just shipped against the run. Detroit
- 33:13Speaker 1: doesn't want to pass the ball, they want to run
- 33:15Speaker 1: the ball. They like little short dump offs. That's the
- 33:17Speaker 1: perfect scheme against Vanjio. So it's kind of a matchup
- 33:20Speaker 1: of schemes here where when That's why we like Banjo
- 33:23Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. He can shut down that offense, which
- 33:25Speaker 1: he did, he just didn't get the points from his offense.
- 33:27Speaker 1: Looking from here to Detroit, doesn't feel like we're gonna
- 33:29Speaker 1: need much if we get, you know, a touchdown, a
- 33:32Speaker 1: field goal. I can only see Denver putting up seventeen
- 33:35Speaker 1: to twenty points on this defense in Detroit. The Traites
- 33:37Speaker 1: defense has been improving every week that they've played. So
- 33:41Speaker 1: I don't know, I get where you're coming from. Like
- 33:44Speaker 1: we're literally buying high and selling low on this Denver team.
- 33:48Speaker 1: Like this is kind of when you want to come
- 33:49Speaker 1: in to Denver. So maybe hold off. I'll see what
- 33:51Speaker 1: the public can do this number. But the way I
- 33:52Speaker 1: see it right now, if you're getting the eight points,
- 33:54Speaker 1: it's it's hard not to take this Detroit team. Are
- 33:57Speaker 1: you saying this is? Simon says, no, that's gonna be
- 34:00Speaker 1: when our last team to talk about once again, New
- 34:04Speaker 1: York Giants at Los Angeles Chargers. This is a huge number.
- 34:10Speaker 1: I don't know what bookmakers are thinking here. This feels
- 34:12Speaker 1: too way too easy, Like the Giants feel like an
- 34:14Speaker 1: auto play. Yeah right, they really do. Giants can run
- 34:18Speaker 1: the ball, Chargers can't really stop the run. Ten points
- 34:21Speaker 1: after a big blowout win for this Chargers team. Too many,
- 34:25Speaker 1: too many, so of course, yeah we love like I
- 34:27Speaker 1: was gonna make this time and says bet too. But again,
- 34:29Speaker 1: I think this line is gonna go up. I just
- 34:31Speaker 1: see this line going up more because you know who's
- 34:34Speaker 1: betting the Giants this week other than us, Like the
- 34:36Speaker 1: only professionals are gonna put the money on this Giants team.
- 34:38Speaker 1: They could not move the ball at all against that
- 34:41Speaker 1: Miami team, and that was a brutal note cover, especially
- 34:43Speaker 1: someone like me. I hit that three, three and a half,
- 34:46Speaker 1: four and a half, five and a half, six and
- 34:48Speaker 1: a half seven, and I mean I had way too
- 34:50Speaker 1: much money invest in that Giants team. The laid such
- 34:52Speaker 1: a huge jag. Gotta gotta bet on the bounce back
- 34:55Speaker 1: this week on the road ten a half points against
- 34:57Speaker 1: the Chargers team that we think they're good, good, we
- 35:01Speaker 1: think there are overvalued of course, like them letting the
- 35:03Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals come back. That's this Chargers team that they
- 35:06Speaker 1: just don't have. I don't even describe. They don't have
- 35:09Speaker 1: the coaching yet maybe or whatever it is. They're just
- 35:11Speaker 1: not They're just not built yet to be a ten
- 35:14Speaker 1: point favorite team. They're not one of these top tier
- 35:16Speaker 1: teams in the whole NFL. So well, we'll take the Giants.
- 35:19Speaker 1: Will just wait and still you can get even better number.
- 35:21Speaker 1: The Giants are another one. The Falcons, the Giants, the Broncos.
- 35:27Speaker 1: They all had shots to win that game, very good
- 35:29Speaker 1: shots to cover. It was one fluky play, one moment
- 35:33Speaker 1: from not covering. Oh yeah, I mean that's what we
- 35:36Speaker 1: talked about the Detroit Pittsburgh wins. That's the same exact thing.
- 35:39Speaker 1: You played a full entire game and it came literally
- 35:42Speaker 1: down to the last second of the game that decided
- 35:44Speaker 1: the entire game. So that's football, baby. It totally is
- 35:48Speaker 1: so frustrating. So we'll add that on the side like that,
- 35:51Speaker 1: that will probably be one of our five. Honestly, that's
- 35:53Speaker 1: it's a huge number. It's too big. San Francisco forty
- 35:58Speaker 1: Niners at Sinnati Bengals one of the most interesting games
- 36:02Speaker 1: on the board on Sunday afternoon. What's interesting about it
- 36:06Speaker 1: is you can get either team as an underdog right now.
- 36:09Speaker 1: Either you can get the Niners at plus one, you
- 36:11Speaker 1: can get the Bengals of plus one. I have no
- 36:13Speaker 1: clue what to do this line. I saw it two
- 36:15Speaker 1: when it opened, and its moves. I think what it
- 36:17Speaker 1: moved from um three and a half or maybe it's
- 36:20Speaker 1: three down, open three and a half, and you can
- 36:23Speaker 1: open with the with the Niners at three and a half.
- 36:26Speaker 1: I mean, we have to wait a little bit longer
- 36:28Speaker 1: on this one because I don't really have a great
- 36:29Speaker 1: feel for it. When I put this number in, I
- 36:31Speaker 1: thought it should be three. So I don't know. I
- 36:33Speaker 1: guess I like SINCE. But that's maybe that's why I
- 36:38Speaker 1: should take sense, because I feel so unsure about taking
- 36:40Speaker 1: SINCE in this position. But Joe Burrow broke his finger
- 36:44Speaker 1: or dislocated whatever happened in that game, so they came
- 36:46Speaker 1: all the way back. I think it was twenty two.
- 36:49Speaker 1: They didn't score a point after single point after that.
- 36:51Speaker 1: So I'll wait and see what the news of the Joe.
- 36:54Speaker 1: But as we sit here today or without Fred Warren,
- 36:57Speaker 1: the route debo at while receive, that's that's two huge
- 37:01Speaker 1: pieces to that team in the forty Niners. So we
- 37:04Speaker 1: gotta see what happens with the line. And they had
- 37:06Speaker 1: to two major starters out last week. I know Bosa
- 37:09Speaker 1: got hurt and he was out of that game for
- 37:10Speaker 1: the Chargers. You saw there was constant pressure on Burrow
- 37:12Speaker 1: in that game that that was a big deal. So
- 37:15Speaker 1: if they're all lines back with the Bengals playing against
- 37:18Speaker 1: this banged up secondary of the forty Niners, I'll be
- 37:21Speaker 1: on the Bengals. That's it's a big advantage towards the
- 37:23Speaker 1: Bengals offense that they got Jamaar Chase there, they got Mixing,
- 37:26Speaker 1: they got all their weapons there. The forty Niners are
- 37:30Speaker 1: kind of real and reeling right now from these these injuries.
- 37:32Speaker 1: Um I I don't like fading the four ninitis team
- 37:35Speaker 1: in this position because I get it the Burros of
- 37:39Speaker 1: coming because I was a bad number when I was
- 37:40Speaker 1: at three and a half three, But now you're giving
- 37:42Speaker 1: me value since so I'll take that value with this
- 37:45Speaker 1: Bengals team. You in the span of about a hundred
- 37:48Speaker 1: and eighty seconds went from being completely unsure didn't know
- 37:52Speaker 1: what to do, to a hundred positive the Bengals were
- 37:56Speaker 1: the right side. Well, I just made the sense. When
- 37:58Speaker 1: I first saw this number, I had no idea because
- 38:00Speaker 1: I didn't really get the movement on it. But now,
- 38:03Speaker 1: like a day later, it kind of makes more sense.
- 38:05Speaker 1: The pros were saying, you know, I'm getting good number
- 38:07Speaker 1: at three and a half. That's why I've been it down.
- 38:08Speaker 1: But yeah, I know what you mean. I was. I
- 38:11Speaker 1: was definitely unsure when I first lest number because I
- 38:13Speaker 1: really didn't want to bet this Bengals team. Matt Mitchell
- 38:15Speaker 1: slacked us and said he expects this to be a
- 38:20Speaker 1: highlight of sharp calls over the next forty eight hours.
- 38:23Speaker 1: Could be I mean, honest, I haven't heard anything about
- 38:25Speaker 1: it yet, but like I'm sure, guys, I bet this.
- 38:28Speaker 1: Speaking to Matt Mitchell, Matt, if you could jump on
- 38:30Speaker 1: for a second, we're gonna talk about the Bills visiting
- 38:34Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. The Buccaneers are three point favorites right now,
- 38:38Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills at Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Do you remember what
- 38:43Speaker 1: you said to me before Simon jumped in, when we
- 38:45Speaker 1: were all jumping into the zoom. I told you that
- 38:48Speaker 1: you would see a peak professional effort from me in
- 38:50Speaker 1: the weeks I had because I feel incapable of experiencing
- 38:54Speaker 1: the joys of life moving forward after that game last night,
- 38:56Speaker 1: and furthermore, I will make a promise to all of
- 38:59Speaker 1: our stars, some of whom do not enjoy hearing the
- 39:03Speaker 1: Bill shout song. I will not play the Bill shout
- 39:06Speaker 1: song again on this show this season until the Bills
- 39:09Speaker 1: win a playoff game. That will be put to bed
- 39:12Speaker 1: because I feel totally dead inside after last night. Somebody
- 39:16Speaker 1: gave us a review that said the show was great,
- 39:20Speaker 1: and then they just listed all the things they hate
- 39:22Speaker 1: about the show. Again, You're welcome to ship all over
- 39:26Speaker 1: me the show, Chad Simon, and those reviews. They really
- 39:30Speaker 1: should be five stars, though. I want to see five
- 39:32Speaker 1: stars and then all your criticisms. Thank you. I'll tell
- 39:35Speaker 1: you what. Anyone who can give us a five star
- 39:38Speaker 1: review that says one nice thing and then list all
- 39:41Speaker 1: the things you hate, you're getting some Action Network swag.
- 39:45Speaker 1: For sure. Feedback is a gift. Yet feedback is a
- 39:48Speaker 1: gift some wise person once said that who was it?
- 39:51Speaker 1: He was very old, so just some extremely yeah, some
- 39:53Speaker 1: old guy. Believe his name is Chad Norman. What do
- 39:58Speaker 1: we think about this Bill's Buccaneers game. I don't know
- 40:00Speaker 1: what the hell do this one either. I think the
- 40:03Speaker 1: Bills are getting a lot of feedback. They're getting a
- 40:05Speaker 1: lot of gifts right now. I can't trust Josh Allen.
- 40:09Speaker 1: Like we talked about coming in the season, he was
- 40:12Speaker 1: gonna do it for a big regression. They kind of
- 40:14Speaker 1: got away with it. They beat up on all these
- 40:16Speaker 1: bad teams. They just have not beat good teams. Like again,
- 40:20Speaker 1: you can say they beat the Chiefs, that was the
- 40:21Speaker 1: one good team they beat in this year. But they
- 40:23Speaker 1: keep keep letting us down. I don't know what is
- 40:26Speaker 1: going on in this offense. Maybe it's because they can't
- 40:27Speaker 1: run it. They don't have a running back they can trust,
- 40:29Speaker 1: and that's put too much pressure on Josh Allen and
- 40:32Speaker 1: everything like that. But if you're giving me three points
- 40:35Speaker 1: and the public split on this one, so you're not
- 40:37Speaker 1: really getting any advantage either way. We'll take Brady. I'll
- 40:40Speaker 1: take Brady at home. He's the MVP right now. I mean,
- 40:43Speaker 1: what do you throw for another four touchdowns last week.
- 40:45Speaker 1: The guy is just all automatic. Gotta hate this back
- 40:48Speaker 1: because I want to take the Bills so bad. Like
- 40:50Speaker 1: if this was still four or four and a half,
- 40:52Speaker 1: I would love to take the Bills here. But at three, man,
- 40:55Speaker 1: I gotta take the home team. It's it's Brady at
- 40:58Speaker 1: home with all of his weapons. Like, uh, I know
- 41:01Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is still out with all his bs, but
- 41:04Speaker 1: they're healthy on offense. They've got all the guys there.
- 41:06Speaker 1: Defense a little scary, like they're talking about Richard Sherman
- 41:09Speaker 1: coming back, because if that's an upgrade of their cornerback
- 41:11Speaker 1: position for this Tampa Bay team, that's bad. That's that's
- 41:14Speaker 1: that's bad. When you hear that kind of stuff. That
- 41:16Speaker 1: man is cooked. So this could be a gay right
- 41:18Speaker 1: game for Josh Allen, but we're not getting any value
- 41:20Speaker 1: with the points here. With Josh down, the value is
- 41:22Speaker 1: shifted towards Tampa. So sitting here on minus three, I'll
- 41:25Speaker 1: take Tampa. It's gonna be a Buccaneers Patriots super Bowl,
- 41:30Speaker 1: no way, no chance. I'd love to see it. I
- 41:33Speaker 1: love to see the public keeps saying that, So there's
- 41:36Speaker 1: just no chance that's gonna happen. In my mind, it's
- 41:38Speaker 1: gonna end up being Cardinals and whoever, Like no one's
- 41:41Speaker 1: talking about the Cardinals that that that's usually the team
- 41:44Speaker 1: that makes that makes the run, you right, like the
- 41:46Speaker 1: team that just no one really talks about it at all. Look,
- 41:49Speaker 1: it is interesting, and we're gonna get to the Rams
- 41:51Speaker 1: and the Cardinals. We got two games left first, Simon says,
- 41:54Speaker 1: And so let's talk a little bit more about the
- 41:56Speaker 1: Cardinals and Monday night against the Rams after we talk
- 41:59Speaker 1: about what I assume will be Simon says, Chicago Bears
- 42:05Speaker 1: at Green Bay Packers, the Bears plus twelve and a
- 42:09Speaker 1: half at lambeau Field on Sunday night. Not because I've
- 42:15Speaker 1: just been burned by Naggy too many times. I just
- 42:17Speaker 1: can't keep doing it. I don't get how after the
- 42:19Speaker 1: second interception he doesn't go, you know what, fuck it.
- 42:22Speaker 1: Let's put Nick Foles in, the guy who won a
- 42:23Speaker 1: Super Bowl and see what he can do instead of
- 42:25Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. I don't get what's happening in Chicago. The
- 42:29Speaker 1: whole thing is bizarre. But I don't know. I had
- 42:32Speaker 1: to take the Bears is way too many points screen Bay.
- 42:36Speaker 1: I know they're healthy they're coming off of bye They're
- 42:38Speaker 1: they're the class that they really are this year. They've
- 42:41Speaker 1: had major injuries, they haven't stopped winning, they haven't stopped
- 42:44Speaker 1: covering all year. Crazy amount of points. I think I saw.
- 42:47Speaker 1: This is the biggest dog Naggy has ever been in
- 42:48Speaker 1: his coaching career. Twelve and a half points. Gotta hate
- 42:51Speaker 1: this bet. I'm taking it, but I'm not making anyone
- 42:54Speaker 1: listening to the show take this bet. I mean, look
- 42:56Speaker 1: at this is a sharp play, right You're you're taking
- 42:58Speaker 1: it because the number is too big. History dictates that
- 43:02Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers goes off in this game. Again, I have it. Technically,
- 43:08Speaker 1: my value towards is towards green bet. I have this
- 43:10Speaker 1: at minus thirteen. I can't do it in a primetime game.
- 43:13Speaker 1: I just can't pull the trigger. It's like you just said,
- 43:15Speaker 1: it's such a pro number. You have to take the
- 43:17Speaker 1: Bears here. Um, but I hate making this bet. Los
- 43:25Speaker 1: Angeles Rams at Arizona Cardinals. Uh, this has to be
- 43:33Speaker 1: Simon says. Simon says, take the Cardinals right now. The
- 43:36Speaker 1: Cardinals are two and a half point favorites. No, Simon says,
- 43:39Speaker 1: take the Rams. Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, my
- 43:52Speaker 1: head is spinning. I can't believe you're saying that everyone
- 43:56Speaker 1: hates this. Bet. A couple of pros I talked to,
- 43:58Speaker 1: they hit this number right away when it touched three.
- 44:00Speaker 1: For a little while. It's back time of two and
- 44:01Speaker 1: a half of most books. We love taking the Rams
- 44:04Speaker 1: in this position. That the Cardinals already beat up and
- 44:06Speaker 1: dominated this Rams team, revenge factor, everything could give me.
- 44:11Speaker 1: Give me the Rams here, Um, Matthew Stafford, he's horrible
- 44:14Speaker 1: against teams above five, like absolutely terrible. Break those demons,
- 44:19Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, get us this cover and win. The public
- 44:21Speaker 1: is gonna be coming in very, very hard on this
- 44:25Speaker 1: Arizona team. Everyone's teasers, money line bets, everything's gonna be
- 44:29Speaker 1: tied to this Arizona team on Monday Night. We we
- 44:31Speaker 1: gotta do. We gotta take the Rams in this position.
- 44:33Speaker 1: So yeah, this will this will be my signmon, says Bet.
- 44:36Speaker 1: My only caveat is wait to get the three. I
- 44:39Speaker 1: do love the two and a half and the like
- 44:41Speaker 1: I know I would think that you take it right now.
- 44:43Speaker 1: Try to wait to get that three. I could see
- 44:44Speaker 1: that number moving over the next couple of days up
- 44:46Speaker 1: to three. You didn't tell me anything here that is
- 44:50Speaker 1: wise guy logic. All you did was tell me why
- 44:55Speaker 1: I have to fade the Cardinals because we think it's
- 44:59Speaker 1: reve nge and it's a get right spot for Matt
- 45:02Speaker 1: Stafford's that's right. It's like a divisional game have been
- 45:05Speaker 1: between two teams that the Cardinals are crazier revalued. It
- 45:09Speaker 1: was the same thing against the reason we took the
- 45:11Speaker 1: Bears and dont's gonna throw four picks and they don't
- 45:13Speaker 1: start on the thirteen and whatever it was the seventeen.
- 45:18Speaker 1: I just can't see Arizona covering that number. Like, say
- 45:21Speaker 1: what you want about Kyler, I still didn't think you
- 45:23Speaker 1: look right in that game. It wasn't like he was
- 45:24Speaker 1: throwing all over the field at the end of the
- 45:25Speaker 1: day with like a hundred yards passing. Again, he didn't
- 45:27Speaker 1: have to do much because any Dalton was giving him
- 45:29Speaker 1: the game. But I don't know, it's it's more of
- 45:31Speaker 1: a fade on this this Arizona team that just can't Again,
- 45:35Speaker 1: my numbers might screw against them. I just don't see
- 45:38Speaker 1: where the public won't be better in the number. That's
- 45:40Speaker 1: why it's a pro number. When you first saw this number,
- 45:42Speaker 1: didn't you think you're getting great value on Arizona two
- 45:44Speaker 1: and a half, like you just talked about with the
- 45:46Speaker 1: bills of the same thing. It's like you take the
- 45:48Speaker 1: home team when it's two and a half. Why are
- 45:50Speaker 1: the books doing that? They're they're getting to think apes
- 45:52Speaker 1: on the money, apes and the tickets right now in Arizona.
- 45:55Speaker 1: So that's the pro And he is looking at saying, no,
- 45:58Speaker 1: what you robbed the book here? They're setting up on
- 46:00Speaker 1: Monday night. Trap. It's kind of a good time to
- 46:02Speaker 1: stay with the book. Okay, okay, that's better. That's a
- 46:06Speaker 1: better answer. Your first answer was a little bit fluffy.
- 46:10Speaker 1: It's true though, it's it's so hard to win two
- 46:13Speaker 1: games in a row against divisional opponents. You know that
- 46:17Speaker 1: time to take down the hops when all hope is lost.
- 46:22Speaker 1: All this left is relief. Let's play Scotch rolette. Last
- 46:31Speaker 1: week in Screwtch Roulette, I went with Atlanta, I took
- 46:33Speaker 1: an owl. I'm not trying to, you know, swindle you
- 46:37Speaker 1: out of your opportunity to go first. It's not how
- 46:40Speaker 1: I roll. You had Pittsburgh one, am I up to one?
- 46:44Speaker 1: You now? I don't know, Simon. I don't keep tracking
- 46:46Speaker 1: matching around the chat just bush it anyways. I don't know, man,
- 46:51Speaker 1: this is so gross doing a freaking ten am on Tuesday.
- 46:54Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll take the Giants. Give me all
- 46:57Speaker 1: those points. Wow? Did that? Or taking that Rams? One?
- 47:01Speaker 1: But I don't feel like wait until Monday night. Okay,
- 47:04Speaker 1: s H is taking the Giants. You know who CEM
- 47:08Speaker 1: is gonna take? CM is taking. When I look at
- 47:14Speaker 1: the games we've circled, they're all gross. I'm looking at
- 47:17Speaker 1: the Raiders, the Washington football team, the Jets, the Texans,
- 47:22Speaker 1: maybe Detroit, although we're on opposite sides the Giants. Since
- 47:27Speaker 1: he we're waiting on the fucking Rams, give me the Raiders, Raiders.
- 47:31Speaker 1: I don't know why in my head I thought you
- 47:33Speaker 1: were gonna take on Enesota. I'm not a fan of
- 47:35Speaker 1: the Minnesota vikingss this week. Well, I'm taking the Raiders.
- 47:40Speaker 1: Raiders plus nine and a half. That screw Roulette. Take
- 47:42Speaker 1: some big road dogs, road dogs. You know who's gonna
- 47:46Speaker 1: be a road dog? Me because I'm hitting the road
- 47:49Speaker 1: driving south to Philadelphia. What else are you in a
- 47:52Speaker 1: little bit? Wait? Man, cannot wait? All right, we did
- 47:56Speaker 1: it all as as Howard Stern says, we set it all.
- 48:00Speaker 1: We covered the slate, we did scouture let, we did
- 48:04Speaker 1: Simon says, we got a foxhold. On Thursday, we'll narrow
- 48:08Speaker 1: it down for our favorite five. We'll talk about the
- 48:10Speaker 1: money line parlay, we'll talk about our big balls better
- 48:13Speaker 1: the week until we get there. He's Simon Hunter. I'm
- 48:17Speaker 1: Chad Noman. This has been the favorites from the volume
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