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Chuck & Buck 7-9 Hour 4: Dustin Nickerson, about last night and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

• 0:20
  Speaker 1: Night o'clock here on this Thursday.
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: Terrific to have you with us. Ashley Ryan's here. My
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: name is Chuck Pow As we roll into our nine
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: o'clock hour. More about the Mariners and about last night
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: coming up in a little bit.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: Also one last thing to close out the show.
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• 0:57
  Speaker 2: Joining us now on our radio program. Very excited to
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: chat with again. It's been way too long. He is
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: a legit funny man, professional comedian extraordinaire and also long
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: suffering Seattle sports fans. Right here from Nickerson Street in Seattle.
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: It is Dustin Nickerson. It is about time you came
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: back on the radio show.
• 1:19
  Speaker 3: Sir, Hi, Yeah, I mean you're blaming me like I
• 1:23
  Speaker 3: book myself for your show.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: You have an open.
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  Speaker 4: Advitation it's my fault.
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: You have an open invitation.
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. It's it's nice to be back. Thank
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: you for having me. It's nice. I am my intro there.
• 1:38
  Speaker 3: I got an upgrade from up and comer to legit.
• 1:41
  Speaker 3: Funny Man added to my Wikipedia.
• 1:46
  Speaker 4: You are moving up.
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, you just keep trying, and I'll just
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: keep ramping up that description of you every single time
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: that you're on. Hey, you should co host when the
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: next time you're in town. Bucky's been out forever, so
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: you could come co host with me the next time
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: you're here, if you'd.
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  Speaker 3: Like, Hey, I'm in Yeah, that didn't sound very convicted. Well,
• 2:14
  Speaker 3: it's so early, and you know, Bucky was really my
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: main commitment to the show. I know, you know, you know,
• 2:27
  Speaker 3: well you're not in last place. Actually, if that makes
• 2:30
  Speaker 3: you feel better, you know, I'm happy to do.
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: If we could, if we could amend the hours a
• 2:38
  Speaker 3: little bit, like you know, maybe I'm maybe we could
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: make this like a PM show, something along those lines,
• 2:45
  Speaker 3: you know, mornings or not this nine am hour one.
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: If if I didn't have children, this would be near impossible.
• 2:51
  Speaker 3: But my children had to get dropped off at volleyball camp.
• 2:54
  Speaker 3: This morning, so I'm up, up and at him.
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like a reasonable request.
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  Speaker 2: Let's restructure the entire format of the entire radio station
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  Speaker 2: to accommodate a legit funny, man.
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  Speaker 3: You're the one, You're the one still trying to make
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  Speaker 3: a career in AM radio, So don't lecture me about
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  Speaker 3: how to we are on. You're a business, we are.
• 3:17
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Yeah, that's right. That was just out of
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  Speaker 3: habit that you were KG. I m for my entire childhood.
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  Speaker 3: So my fault, my fault.
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm sure you've just been having the
• 3:29
  Speaker 2: time of your life this Mariner season.
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  Speaker 1: It's great when a plan comes together, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe this is this whole experience is being
• 3:40
  Speaker 3: what what my what my teen children define as mid
• 3:45
  Speaker 3: all it's felt a very very mid experience. I it's
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  Speaker 3: I think that if there were any other season I
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  Speaker 3: would have that have been less of a like, oh man,
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  Speaker 3: this is business as usual. You know, the Mariners are
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  Speaker 3: kind of middle of the road. Maybe they'll make a run,
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  Speaker 3: we'll see. But that we had that pesty hope, you know,
• 4:08
  Speaker 3: pesty hope going into the season. So now now it's
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: very very unsatisfying it's compared to like someone's like, hey,
• 4:16
  Speaker 3: you want to go get a steak dinner and you
• 4:18
  Speaker 3: get all excited. You're like, where are we going? Are
• 4:20
  Speaker 3: we going to like the met? Yeah, let's get excited,
• 4:23
  Speaker 3: and they're like, we're going to outback, And you're like, well,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, under normal circumstances, I'd be pretty happy with outback,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm pretty used to out back. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: given the hope that the MET was in my mind
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  Speaker 3: out back, this stake seems a little dry.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But and I am curious about this as somebody
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  Speaker 2: that moved here eleven years ago. I didn't grow up
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  Speaker 2: here and have to experience the pain you've had with
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: Mariners baseball your entire life. And like a lot of
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: our listeners were, but once upon a time, you weren't
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  Speaker 2: even getting out back. I mean, you built this crust
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  Speaker 2: because you were going to Sizzler every summer for Mariners baseball.
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  Speaker 2: But now at minimum you're getting out back. Do you
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  Speaker 2: ever step back, like, Okay, you know this like five
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  Speaker 2: six years of outback here and better.
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  Speaker 1: Does that ever cross your mind as a Mariner.
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  Speaker 3: Baseball Well, I mean it's it's actually even bleaker than
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  Speaker 3: you said it was because those of you were my
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  Speaker 3: fellow listeners here. Not only did we only just have Sizzler,
• 5:25
  Speaker 3: they kept threatening to take our sizzler to La. Not
• 5:30
  Speaker 3: only did we only have Sizzler, we weren't even guaranteed
• 5:34
  Speaker 3: that we would get Sizzler. So you are right that
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  Speaker 3: Outback is absolutely an upgrade over Sizzler. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: six years of blueming onions and you're like, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: is there something else back there in the kitchen? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I like a Bluemann onion as the rest of the guy.
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  Speaker 3: It's just, you know, these other teams, they seem to
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  Speaker 3: get more than just out Back. I mean, for goodness sakes,
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  Speaker 3: the Nationals get to go to Ruth Chris every once
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  Speaker 3: in a while, Like.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't we You know, you were very close and
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  Speaker 1: right there at the door.
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  Speaker 3: Every once in a while. Yeah, yeah, why don't we
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  Speaker 3: get to You know.
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  Speaker 1: This is actually a true story.
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  Speaker 2: It has everything to do with out Back Steakhouse since
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: it's become a prominent topic here. I grew up in
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  Speaker 2: small town southwestern Illinois, and my mom had seven children
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: she had to feed, and we weren't exactly rich folk,
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  Speaker 2: so we didn't have the greatest cuisine growing up that
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna get. Okay, So I am an eighteen year old.
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  Speaker 2: My brother has moved to Tampa, Florida, which is home
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  Speaker 2: to outbacks and strip clubs and waffle houses and mullets,
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  Speaker 2: and so he takes me out to dinner.
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  Speaker 3: And probably churches too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, not the holy places, the chicken places.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But I he takes me when I get there to
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  Speaker 2: Outback Steakhouse, like this was going to be the treat.
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  Speaker 2: And I sat there and I told him, I said,
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  Speaker 2: this is the greatest food that has ever been made.
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  Speaker 2: I was convinced at eighteen years old that there was
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  Speaker 2: not better food. It wasn't available anywhere else. This is
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  Speaker 2: the pinnacle of cuisine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and you're not right wrong, because if you
• 7:20
  Speaker 3: walk around Seattle, we've built as Mariners Baseball, We've built
• 7:25
  Speaker 3: statues and murals to Outback Steakhouse. Yeah, because it is.
• 7:33
  Speaker 3: It is as good as we've had. But we've just
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: you know, w'ere, we've gotten a little taste of the
• 7:38
  Speaker 3: met to use the local reference, they've gotten a little
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  Speaker 3: taste of something better. Also. It doesn't help that across
• 7:46
  Speaker 3: the Street in downtown Seattle is a finer steak, so
• 7:51
  Speaker 3: we know it exists. It just it's we've gotten a
• 7:55
  Speaker 3: taste for it in February for a different sport. So
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: it's just got a long and long and for a
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  Speaker 3: little more than a bloomin onion.
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: Dustin Nickerson is with us local comedian who's made it
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: big time on the national scene, and yet he takes
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: time to share his legit funny man abilities with us
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  Speaker 2: occasionally on Chuck and Buck in the mornings. So are
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: you still living off the high of a Super Bowl championship?
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, are you rubbing it in the noses of
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: your fellow comedian friends on the road?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I have one hundred percent, Yeah, and I are.
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  Speaker 3: The reality is is, I don't know how other Seattle
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  Speaker 3: sports fans feel. For the majority of my life, I
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: didn't think that Seattle sports would win anything. And so
• 8:46
  Speaker 3: now that we've won two Super Bowls, not to go
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  Speaker 3: all dark, but I am like it is enough to
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  Speaker 3: take the thing a little bit away from the Mariners
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  Speaker 3: sucking so bad and not even sucking, just being mediocre.
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  Speaker 3: So no one one was enough, you know, back in
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  Speaker 3: the day, and you know, with the first super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: and this one. I'm like, I think this just means
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  Speaker 3: we're forever super Bowl champions. I can't really be taken
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  Speaker 3: away from me. Yeah. Two super Bowls is enough. I
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  Speaker 3: say that now. And then you know, opening week if
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: we lose, do we have the Patriots Week one? Whoever
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  Speaker 3: we play Week one? Yeah, I'll be probably full crashing
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  Speaker 3: out again. But you know, it does feel good. It
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  Speaker 3: feels really good. You get it. It takes the sting
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  Speaker 3: off of the Mariners. It takes the sting off you know,
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  Speaker 3: the World Cup, whatever it may be. You're like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's right, we won the super Bowl. That's fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: I love that you felt it almost sounds like you
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: felt a little guilty. Are we allowed to win too
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  Speaker 2: when other teams haven't?
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, I feel an immense amount of guilt. But
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  Speaker 3: then it turns quickly in to pride and arrogance that
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  Speaker 3: I do both. Uh over it. Despite the fact that
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  Speaker 3: I mean coverage wise, as somebody who consumes, you know,
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: some sports media, you would think the Rams won the
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl and that they were defending their title. For
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: a team that lacks to seattle twice in the last
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: waning months of the season, you would think that they
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: just beat us in a super Bowl, which would not
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: have happened of course nfc. Uh you know, by four touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: But I it is. It has been quite a It's
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  Speaker 3: a very Seattle thing to win the super Bowl and
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  Speaker 3: then just hear all off season about how great the
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: Rams are.
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  Speaker 2: I think that is legit legitimately fair right there, what
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  Speaker 2: you just said. That is yeah, And normally I think
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: a Seattle fan is like looking to be overlooked.
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: Uh, that's been kind of my observation.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that's yeah, I think that's very accurate
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  Speaker 2: what you just said.
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  Speaker 3: No, No, it's it's like in comedy terms, it's like I,
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: you know, I just they were all on a showcase,
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: and you know, I have the set of my life,
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: and you know, I get booked for a Netflix special
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: whatever it may be, and I walk off stage and
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: they're like, hey, man, do you hear about that Adam Ray?
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, doesn't Adam have enough already? Didn't I
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: just have a good set? Why do I got to
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: hear about this?
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: Those are some funny jokes, but Adam Ray's, man, you
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: should have heard.
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  Speaker 3: His analogy doesn't fully work out. Because Adam is a
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: Seahawks fan here. But you know you get that, you
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: get that.
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: I know, Oh, I know what you're saying. Dustin Nickerson
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: is with us here on Chuck and Buck in the morning.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: I noticed that just on your timeline, just trying to
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: catch up with where you've been, what you've been doing
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: as of late. You're you know, front and center. You
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: wear a lot of Sonics paraphernalia. So have you decided
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: to protect your heart and not count on it? Or
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: are you going the distance and just going ahead and
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: convincing yourself that the Sonics are almost back in Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: We you and I have talked enough. I bet you
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: could guess where I'm at on this. You know me
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  Speaker 3: the hopeful optimist. No, I will celebrate the return of
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: the Seattle SuperSonics at tip off, at not a moment sooner.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't even mean I don't even mean like
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: the whistle blows it's about to tip off. I mean
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: the ball is in the air tip off, and until
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: that moment, I won't be convinced that. You know, as
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: the ball is being thrown up, Howard Schultz won't buy
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: and sell the team again before it lands into whatever
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: seven foot two center we've drafted, that's going to be
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: a bus for us. Sorry, I went full back to
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: early two thousands. Are Sonics there? So no, I won't
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  Speaker 3: I won't celebrate. I won't have an hour of optimism.
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  Speaker 3: If anything, I'm just kind of dead towards it. You know.
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: It's the Sonics are a little bit like Bruno, you know,
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: to use a Pixar analogy. We don't really talk about him.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: Are you getting into the World Cup at all?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I do like the World Cup. I found that
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  Speaker 3: the World Cup is it's kind of like American soccer
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: is very similar to like elections that I think that
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  Speaker 3: they've figured out, like it's every four years we forget
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  Speaker 3: like every four years we think a politician cares about us.
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  Speaker 3: That every four years, we think that the American men's
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: team can make a run. It takes four years. It
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: takes four years. It's a four year cycle for Americans
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  Speaker 3: to be like, oh wait, no, no, no, they've never
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: done that in the past. Why would things be different now? So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I did not expect them to score a single goal,
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: you know, they're at lumen. And I also did not
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: expect that to be more runs than the Mariners scored
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: the following night last night in Miami.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the good thing about you, though, is your
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  Speaker 2: lack of faith. It keeps you from spending a lot
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: of money on bets on your favorite teams. I bet
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: you have not spent one dollar betting on one of
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: your favorite.
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  Speaker 3: No, don't. I don't bet much. And I also won't
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: pay to go to the games much, so it has
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: saved me money in that regard. Like I thought about,
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: you know, I was like, let's see here, I got
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: some airlines points, some hotel points, Maybe I could get
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: up to that World Cup game. And then I thought,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: you know, how much do you want to pay to hurt?
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: You know kind of what kind of pay? Why would
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: you do this? And then I watched it by myself
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: and at my house, and I was like, I was
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: really glad that this was free. I mean, I am.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: I'm really glad that I'm on my one month's trial
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: of my Fox Sports one and that I can cancel
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: that pretty soon. So hopefully that's not an affiliate. I
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: don't I don't understand FM radio. I don't know who
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: you work for.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Well, at least you got the FM part. This time,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: you got that right.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: Ye listen again, my my child, the gats and gas
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: and Graz you were am so.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Gas and Graz got a shout out from Dustin Nickerson
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  Speaker 2: here this morning. All right, So are you do I
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: get this straight? You are going to Eugene. You got
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: to show in Eugene here really soon. And yeah, your
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Eugene shows seem to like all sell out. I mean,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: what kind of sick people are there down there in
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Oregon that they just can't massacres? They can't wait to
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: show up and have you make fun of them. I mean,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: isn't that the relationship? It's kind of dysfunctional.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: I think that the fact that this Washington Husky and
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: these organ ducks can get along, I think it's just
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: proof that there is hope for all of us. There
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: really is. There's if we can get along. And not
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: only do these organ ducks show up excited, they're giving
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: me money, what kind of It's almost like they are
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: some kind of sick f and M thing they got
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: with me. I don't know if you can say that
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: on FM radio you get on AM radio. But no,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: they've been great to be I think ducks for all
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: their you know, poor choice and sports teams. They do
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: seem to have a good sense of humor. And you know,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: all the all the talk that has been going in
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: about the you know, the US soccer team and and
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: all the money that goes into the academies and all
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: the fancy new uniforms and the fact that they never
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: really deliver. I was like, Oh, this is what it
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: feels like to be a Ducks fan. Every four years.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I realized that money can't buy you a World Cup
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  Speaker 3: or a Natty or a championship, but I, you know,
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  Speaker 3: every four years, I get into that same little delusion.
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  Speaker 3: So if anything, I'm going to kind of be one
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: of them, at least mentally, and that I like the Ducks,
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: like the men's soccer team, was an idiot to believe
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: that they were ever actually gonna win.
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  Speaker 2: How do you think it would work the other way that,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: like a Oregon comedian was in Washington ripping on Husky fans.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Do you think it would the relationship would be the
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: same based on what you know about the two peoples.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it just seems like so far, the University of
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Oregon has just not developed someone that has the talent
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: that I do. So so it's a purely hypothetical, Chuck.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: You know, once, once that fine academic institution, institution puts
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: out someone like me, then I guess we'll figure it out.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: But in the meantime, all across that bridge, we'll come
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: to it bridge that UDUB engineer is going to have
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: to build.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Well, where are you now? Where are you going to
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: be next? What can we promote about your amazing career?
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Right now, I'm about to pick up my dad and
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: take him to the to the doctors. If right now,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: nobody's welcome to join me on this but Dom and
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Eugene this weekend, I don't have it. I'll have next time.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: As soon as I have some Northwest states, I'll call
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: you guys again and we'll promote those. I'll be out
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: and I'm doing the Neptune again in February and then
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: and then I have a special coming out and in September,
• 18:45
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  Speaker 1: The time comes.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, well on behalf of Seattle sports fans everywhere.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Thank you for this uplifting conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, go Mariner.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Thanks man talk to you soon, all right, Dustin Nickerson
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: joining us right here on the Chuck and Buck in
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  Speaker 2: the morning. If you want to follow him, you can
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  Speaker 2: do so at Dustin Nickerson. And yes, if you were
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: wondering if you wanted to recap, Yeah, he made it
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: pretty obvious.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: That he doesn't really listen anymore, that I am third
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: on the three person show.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: I somehow drop down favorite people.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: On the show. And yes, he mocked that I am
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: still in this career. So yeah, that's a nice summary. Yeah,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to have him back on.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a real treat.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: He's a real apparently if you're not here, he starts
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: liking you more.
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  Speaker 2: He makes you want to get up in the morning
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: what he does and go tackle.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: The day again, two legs at a time.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: That.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you what you don't want Dustin Nickerson
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: to be is your school counselor.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, my school counselor was pretty like I asked
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: her about applying to school.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: She's like, you won't get in there, don't worry about it.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: So he actually might be very similar to my school counselor.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Might have been him, Yeah, could have been him. I
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: don't know what the age difference is but maybe, but
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: it's still possible.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Mister Nickerson. Sure wasn't, mister Nickerson, I'm not crapped all.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Over your dreams.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Not sure of anything anymore coming.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Up next about last night the Mariners getting shut out
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: two to nothing, and I'd like to say that will
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: rebound from a lot of that negative chatter from mister Nickerson.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: But there's not a lot of great things to say
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  Speaker 5: Wouldn't that be a treat? Yeah, to get to see
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: it with your own two lives.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Exactly, to not get an autograph from Dustin Nickerson, But.
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  Speaker 5: Think of all the other people will be there for sure,
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  Speaker 5: Dustin Nickerson.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Who knows who's going to be out there? All right,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about this one more time and then
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: maybe we could just put it to bed.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: You could get like it ever happened.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: But the Mariners did lose to the Marlins last night
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: two to nothing. Very frustrating game, part of a frustrating
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: first half of the season. I will say, on the upside,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: if we can find a couple of nuggets, Cal Rawley
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: with a fantastic defensive play on that backhanded you know
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: how hard that is. I mean, that's a hard play
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: to make if you're facing the catcher and tagging somebody
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: out at second base.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: That throw is two.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Times as far and Cow's on the other side of
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the bag with a mit that is not exactly built
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to catch those kind of balls. Yeah, and then he
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: backhands it and then leaps like a cheetah to the
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: other side of the bag and gets one of the
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: fastest base runners in Major League Baseball. I'm not even
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: sure if he got him, frankly.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Well, but seemed like he did.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: They didn't want to challet, they didn't even challenge it.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: That was a fantastic play. Luke Rayley's diving catch was
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: a fantastic play. We got the double play at that point.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: George was solid and so there's a little and then
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the other silver lining, of course, is that hey still
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: in first place. There's nobody to chase down the rest
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: of the American League West. The rest of American League
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: is cooperating.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: And if we can play as poorly as we've played
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: in the first half and still not have anybody to
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: climb in the second half, then that that's a pretty
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: good position.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I'll take it.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: That's all of it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: That's all the superlatives, Okay, because everything else feels really dark.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: That was I thought a pathetic display by the offense
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: last night, and not just because they didn't score runs
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and really not. I know it looks like they don't
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: care and they don't try when nothing is happening offensively, when.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: There's a zero on the board.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I know it looks like that these guys care, they try,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: But I will say I thought those were a lot
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: of lazy, pathetic at bats. The approaches Bucky talks about
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: approach all the time, the approaches that they took last night,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I thought were terrible throughout most of the game last night.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: That's frustrating.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: And then ultimately the game ends on not challenging a
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: very challengeable pitch with abs challenge here for this very reason,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and you have two challenges in your back pocket. Luke
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Rayley should have used one in the ninth inning and didn't,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: and then to walk off the baseball field on a
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: clear ball that was called a strike, and young Cole
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Young does not challenge on a net bat in which
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: he took three strikes. All three strikes he was caught looking,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: including the third strike which was out of the strike zone,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: and he didn't challenge even though we had both of
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: our challenges remaining. I mean, that kind of stuff is
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: absolutely unacceptable, and I think Cole's probably taken the least
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: amount of criticism this entire season on the entire roster.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: And yet that's just unacceptable. And whatever happened, whatever miscommunication
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: took place, or whatever sort of insecurities that Cole Jung
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: has at the plate in that situation, never can that
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: happen again.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: No, And we talk all the time about using the
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: ABS system in the right moments.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Right, you don't use it early? You use it. You
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: say you don't use it on.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: An early in the game when no one's on base
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: and it's a called strike one.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: We would get an F for our use of the
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: challenge there.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're not good at it, We're terrible, But those
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: are the That is the ideal situation to know, I've
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: got a challenge. I've got two challenges I could use,
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: So I better use one here.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Because even if that ball.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Was a strike and it was on the corner and
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: it was close, you better use that damn challenge it.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: What have you got to lose? You can't take it
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: home and carry it back tomorrow.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I think you should never leave a Major League
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Baseball game in twenty twenty six with two challenges, and
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I would agree. Ever now, if you leave with one
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: because you saved one just in case the final pitch
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: of the game, which was the case.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Last year, you shouldn't have even left with one.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you leave one for the scenario just like
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: we had last night, okay, And if you end up
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: with one, I understand that, but there's no excuse. It's
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: just like in basketball. I used to have a coach
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: tell me it's twenty six and zero team. He would say,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: if you are walking off of a court and you
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: have not committed a foul and you played most of
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: the game, you didn't play hard enough, right, you better
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: get a foul. You better commit a foul at some
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: point otherwise I don't think he played hard.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, otherwise you're too soon.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, we don't want you in foul trouble. But
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: if you didn't commit a foul, you weren't playing hard enough.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: You know, you had what was it, thirty two minutes
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: back in high school.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you get five fouls.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: And you played thirty minutes and you walked off the
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: court without a foul.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: You didn't push it you didn't push the envelope.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Well, just like I'd never wanted to walk off a
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: basketball court without having committed at least one foul, because
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: it says something about me. If you walked off a
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: baseball field with two challenges left on the plate, I
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: don't think.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Your head's in the game. I just don't.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: And and then I then let's point it to the manager,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: let's point to the coaching staff. Every single basketball game
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: you have ever watched, and I know everybody listening has
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: watched at least ten twenty basketball games closely enough that
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: when it's tight late and they show the timeout and
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the huddle every single time out inside two minutes, there
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: is a coach overkill. And it's usually that coach that
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: reminds everybody how many timeouts we have left, and so
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: you can't use one.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Maybe everybody is.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: On the same page, but they make sure that you
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: know because in the moment when you've got a ball
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: and you're wanting to call a timeout before they tie
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: you up, they want you to absolutely know whether you
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: have one or don't have one.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I put eighty five to ninety five percent on this
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: on Cole Young and Luke Rayley.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: But I'm putting at least five percent on a manager
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: and a coaching staff that have a timeout between every innings.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: The hitters have to pass Dan Wilson on their way
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: to the on deck circle.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: And then they stand in the circle for a while,
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: right would you talk to them?
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Then yell something to them or pass a message along?
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: And then when Rayley didn't challenge, how you aren't as
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: a staff saying hey, we got to use those? We
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: got two of those? Why are we using those? And
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: everybody better hear it? The on deck hitter better certainly
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: hear it. And so I put a little bit on them.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I put a little bit on him. I put a
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: little bit on the coaching staff here. That's to me
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: lack of communication. And if they did that, because I
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: don't know if they didn't do that, If they did
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: that and Luke and Cole still didn't challenge, well, then
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: you then you just look stupid. And I don't think
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Luke and Cole are stupid. And so I put a
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: little bit on that. I put a little bit on
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: the coaching staff here for not overkill reminding people, because
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I think that's what you should do in that situation
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: every ninth inning, reminding all of your hitters that are
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: going to the plate, how many challenges.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: You have left?
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it would have been nice to be able
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: to hear from Dan or Cole or Luke and why
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: wasn't the challenge used?
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: Like if I would love to know what Cole was
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: thinking in the moment and why he didn't use it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: I would love to have heard a question asked of Dan,
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: you know what happened with the challenges there at the end.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: Did you guys tell them to use them? Did you
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: know what was going on? Would love to know that stuff.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: That would be I'd be fascinating.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Look, somebody would argue, aren't they right there on the scoreboard?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: And I do believe that they are, so you can
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: look up. Yeah, but if I'm a coach and I'm.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: A overkill, I'm overdoing.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I think they're on the scoreboard in a college basketball
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: in an NBA game too. But they make sure that
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: they know so it's in their head. It's implanted in
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: their head that if they're caught in a situation, they
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: know exactly whether or not they can use a timeout
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: or they can use a challenge. So I am going
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: to put a little bit on that and then speaking
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: of manager like too many of these lackluster games. I mean,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: we had this conversation about Poachattino a little earlier in
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the week about like, if an entire team comes out flat,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I do believe, yeah, it's mostly the player's faults, but
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: a coach better make sure you're in the right headspace.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: We talk about this with coach Holmgrin all the time
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: during course of the season, and he could tell he
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: could tell whether they were in.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: The right headspace.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: You gotta be able to tell if they're in the
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: right headspace. And look, I don't really judge baseball managers
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: as much anymore on x's and o's because there's such
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: a statistical formula now, like analytics have become so invasive
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: in the decisions that you make. It's almost a mathematical formula.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I think Dan does a terrible job at managing his bullpen.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Even with the restrictions that we know Jerry and Justin
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: are placing on him, you still are being given here
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: are your restrictions. Now make it work, And I don't
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: think he makes it work very frequently. So x's and
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: o's are not as big a part of a manager's
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: responsibilities as they once were, you have a bench coach
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: now everything else. So the other part of it is
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: you have to manage individual players, and you have to
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: manage the collective of the players. And if a team underachieves,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: is consistently underachieving, is consistently having flat it does reflect
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: on the manager. I heard Carl Ravitch yesterday in a
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: conversation last night during their telecast, and he just talked
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: about like managerial changes, and he was making what I
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: thought was a really lazy argument about he brought up
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: the name Joe Tory. Joe Torrey didn't stop being a
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: good manager. He's the same manager before, even when they
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: were losing, And like, yeah, I understand that you might
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: be the same manager from year to year or day
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: to day. But the job of Joe Tory, the job
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: of Dan Wilson, is to get the most out of
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: his guys. And it is a reflection on you if
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: you're not. And so maybe what did work last year
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: isn't working anymore. Maybe what you maybe that soft approach
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: and always having your players backs and all of that stuff.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: It worked because it was refreshing to have a manager
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: who has my back and never calls me out, and
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: that's wonderful, And this is the type of guy I
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: want to play for.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: But if you are too soft, then all of a
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: sudden start.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Taking you for granted, they start taking advantage of you
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: because you're never going to get upset with them.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: You're always going to have their back.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: And so yeah, even though some things that you did
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: were effective last year to get the most out of
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: some players, you're not getting the most out of anyone
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: this year, with the exception of your pitching staff. And
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I give that credit to Pete.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Woodworth, Yeah, because he's.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: The pitching whisperer.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Yep. So yes, I think it does reflect on Dan,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: yes having the occasional game where we're all wondering, like
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: do they want this or not? I think that is
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: a reflection on the manager because part of his job
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: is to get the most The biggest part of his
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: job is to get the most out of the talent
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: given him. And they have a lot of talent on
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: this team and they should be running away with the
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: American League West. So yes, it does reflect on Dan
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Wilson a night like last night in more ways than
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: just the x's and o's of a manager's responsibilities.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree, and I again would love to
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: know what he thinks about it. But we don't ever
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: get an honest press conference from him either, and that's
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: a bummer.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Because he's always I'm going to have your backs no
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: matter what.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So if I have a.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Safe press conference, then I don't have to worry about
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: somebody being upset with me on the roster the next week.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: You could throw himself under the bus, then.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: That's a thought.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: One last thing is next Sports Radio ninety three point
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: three k A r F M. All right, final segment
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: of today's radio program. We always close things out with
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: one last thing before handing things over to Greg Bell,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: and that's when the magic.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Happens at ten.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: We've put on a really good retaining product, really informative product.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: But the magic happens at ten at ten. We all
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: know it, we all do, we all abide by it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, all right, what do you got for one last
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: thing to date?
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: Well? I felt this was only fitting because we have
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: been talking a lot today about the Mariners' misuse Cole Young's,
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: in particular misuse of the challenge not using it yesterday,
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: and I thought, well, would we rather be in a
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: situation where at the end of the game, we're frustrated
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: that our last out looks at a called third strike
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: and doesn't use an available challenge, or would we rather
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: be the Washington Nationals and their outfielder Alex call used
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: both challenges unsuccessfully in the same at bat in the
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  Speaker 5: first inning against the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we had that with Randy not long ago.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I thought, I don't remember that being in
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  Speaker 5: the first inning that he lost all.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was in the first inning.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was a little was first at bat,
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  Speaker 2: maybe he was in and clean up that day, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Me it was definitely and they weren't even close.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, and so yeah they and I thought so
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  Speaker 5: at least we had them. But then I thought, well,
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  Speaker 5: I think i'd rather lose them both in the first
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  Speaker 5: inning on someone just thinking no, I'm right and you're wrong,
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  Speaker 5: versus someone.
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  Speaker 4: Being like, no, that was definitely something I should have called.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what I would say to that, Like to me,
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  Speaker 2: if you've if like when Randy burned both the challenges unsuccessfully,
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  Speaker 2: at least that's entirely on him, right, And we know
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  Speaker 2: who to blame true and who to sit down with
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  Speaker 2: and say, hey, we can't do that, man, right number one,
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  Speaker 2: We've already had these talks about it being situational and
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  Speaker 2: everything else, and you can't do that. Last night it
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  Speaker 2: was like all encompassing, like to walk away, and nobody's
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  Speaker 2: used a challenge as just a.
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  Speaker 1: Team wide fail. I mean, we'll blame Cole and Luke
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  Speaker 1: the most.
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  Speaker 2: But I think as we talked about where's the communication
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  Speaker 2: and if I'm if I'm a coach, I mean maybe
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  Speaker 2: baseball people think over communicating, is that, Oh, that's.
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  Speaker 1: Just that's just unprofessional to over communicate.
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  Speaker 4: But it's not.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's worse is leaving a two run game
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  Speaker 2: with two challenges and walking off with a blown call.
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  Speaker 4: It's in game management. There's nothing wrong with that.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, I think that that's in a team
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  Speaker 2: wide like Luke should have challenged at one point. There
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: were times earlier in the game that should have been challenged.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: It was like just a funk. That was I mean,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: JP Crawford swinging for the fences when we're down two
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  Speaker 2: and his job as a leadoff man is to get
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  Speaker 2: on base for everybody else. Cal being up two to
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  Speaker 2: ohero and swinging at a pitch that he's been dominated
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  Speaker 2: by this entire year.
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  Speaker 1: You want to swing two.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Oh you're cal Rawley, But get your pitch to hit,
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  Speaker 2: not their pitch to hit, right, And that's we even
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: though you're a home run hit or we still need
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: a guy on base before we can get the second run.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: You gotta get the first guy on base.
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  Speaker 4: Yet, the things that was a fail, I think it.
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  Speaker 2: Was just a lazy night of baseball. Thinking from our
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: team yesterday, I would agree, and that again falls back
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  Speaker 2: on the manager. Yeah, and you better have it there,
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  Speaker 2: You better have their minds right tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Got to get your chickens in your mentals right tonight.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and sixty two games. I can live
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: with those, one of those. Occasionally I can live with
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: a game like that occasion. Be occasionally we've had eight shutouts,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: We've had like fifteen of those this season, where you're like,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: are you even focusing on do we even want to win?
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Yuck?
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow at six. Greg
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