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Lunch with the Clydesdale - More on the Possible Sale · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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I love the chase and the hunt and
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I set the pace when I'm running.
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I always take what I want and I
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always give it one hundred.
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Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.
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Play the game like it's nothing.
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I'm always thankful for something.
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Don't take for granted, stay humble.
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Now wake up!
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It's time to look at the enemy.
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Look in the mirror if he is no
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friend to me.
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It's not working out,
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maybe it's the chemistry.
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It's time to break up slowly.
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And my mic is muted.
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I don't know when that happened.
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Hopefully you guys can hear me.
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You guys know what time it is.
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It's lunchtime.
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Train Olive is already in the chat.
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What is going on, everybody?
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Favorite time of the day.
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Get to hang out with friends and talk
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about what is going on in sports
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entertainment.
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I'm going to show you something really
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wild.
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So yesterday,
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my beloved Chicago Bears took on the
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Cleveland Browns in Soldier Field in
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Chicago in the coldest game in the history
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of the Chicago Bears.
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So this is a video that's been posted
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on Instagram, and it is an RC Cola.
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This guy opens up his soda and watch
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what happens at the game.
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So you can see it's perfectly liquid.
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And as air is getting in,
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it is instantly freezing.
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That is how cold it was at the
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game.
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The soda is instantly freezing into a
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slush.
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from liquid to slush just by opening the
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cap.
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You know how devoted of a fan you
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have to be to sit in that?
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That is insane.
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I mean, Train Olive,
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she lives in Florida because of this.
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She don't want any part of this.
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Man,
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it was five degrees when I let the
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dog out this morning.
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It was so bad.
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I don't know how people do it.
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When I was younger,
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I didn't mind the cold.
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And now, like,
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I cannot stand it at all.
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But my beloved Bears are now sitting in
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first place with the loss of the Green
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Bay Packers,
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the loss of the Detroit Lions.
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We have a half-game lead on the Packers,
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a two-game lead on the Lions with three
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games to go.
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And we take on the Packers this Saturday
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night in Soldier Field in Chicago.
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Winner will lead the division.
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If the Bears win this week,
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they'll have a game and a half lead
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with two games to go.
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Uh, Trinol is not at all.
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I am from New York, New Jersey,
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and I don't miss the cold at all.
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Yeah.
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I lived in Florida for four years.
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I did not like the heat in the
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summer.
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Um,
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and we moved back North and now I,
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I,
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and at the time I didn't really mind
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the cold.
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Now, like even right now in my basement,
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it is so cold.
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Um,
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I need to probably start running the space
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heater when I'm down here.
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It is so bad.
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Uh,
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Frida says the winter has fled Northern
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Europe.
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Yeah.
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The coolest thing about being a Bears fan
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right now is we finally have a
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quarterback.
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For years and years and years of not
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having one,
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Caleb Williams is showing each and every
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week his growth, his advancement,
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and how he is potentially going to be
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one of the up-and-coming great
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quarterbacks of all time.
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So I am super pumped on this Monday
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morning for that.
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Yeah, crazy.
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Aaron Frazier,
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fifty three here in Jacksonville today.
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Yes.
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So I lived on that I-ten corridor.
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Aaron,
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I was I lived in Tallahassee for four
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years.
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It didn't get below fifties hardly ever.
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Yeah.
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Train all of the heat definitely can be
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a lot.
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It was fifty five felt like forty nine
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this morning and I was cold.
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Yeah.
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It's it's amazing how fast you get
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acclimated.
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When I first moved to Florida,
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we went swimming in the Gulf of Mexico
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in January, and it was no big deal.
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By the third year I was there,
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it was too cold to go swimming in
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the winter.
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So, yeah.
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Frida says ten degrees Celsius here.
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So well above freezing.
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Yeah, we are nowhere near that.
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So but it's supposed to warm up.
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We're supposed to hit mid fifties midweek.
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So everything will melt and then we'll and
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it'll dip back down again.
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And that's that's probably even worse than
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just straight cold is the up and down.
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Then everybody gets sick.
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It's crazy.
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Jody's at thirteen.
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Yeah, I think you got us beat.
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We were at five this morning.
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We may be may have warmed up a
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touch.
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Yeah, we are sitting at twelve.
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So we're right there with you, Jody.
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Twelve degrees.
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And Texas is sitting at forty three with
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Jay Birch.
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There we go.
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Now that we got the weather forecast out,
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it appears last night we talked about this
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leaked business plan that has since been
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pulled from the Barbell Spin website.
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And there has been some...
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talk that Wade Deebner may not now be
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buying CrossFit because of the reaction to
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the leaked business plan.
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I know Siobhan shared this earlier.
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I will share it again so we can
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talk about it.
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So got to get back to where I
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want it to be.
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And...
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Sorry about that.
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I was leafing through Instagram.
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Sure.
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All right.
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Here we go.
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So this is on Kipping It Real's Instagram
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page.
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uh it says it starts up here with
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keeping it real saying wade ebner prepared
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to be memed hard and then it said
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thank you today's horrible youtube has me
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second guessing everything the amount of
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hate my family has received is not
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deserved by everyone all false my heart is
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too
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My heart is to only help everyone win
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and grow and make money and get healthy.
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This has been hard and malicious without
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even talking to me.
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I am sad and hurt.
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That might be worse for every affiliate.
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The company is on the brink of bankruptcy
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and they blast people who may be willing
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to help but instead receive hate.
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I wish you guys the best truly.
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and keeping it asks why would your family
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receive hate he says watch the video and
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see it's been overwhelming without any
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fact checking or asking me i'm out i'm
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out um so
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It appears that the proposal that was
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leaked has done some damage,
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and Wade Diebner is now out,
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or he never was in.
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And the leaking of that information could
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be resulting in him not complying with an
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NDA that he signed with CrossFit.
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It could be that he never really was
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a proposal, and this is his way out.
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People are asking where the document is.
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It has been pulled.
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It is no longer on the website,
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so you cannot grab it anymore.
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I'm assuming that there has been a threat
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of legal action because the document was
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leaked and posted publicly.
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And that is all assumption on my part.
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I have not got confirmation from anybody
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about that, but it is no longer,
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it is no longer out there for us
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to view.
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Uh, Chattanooga,
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maybe he did know something about our
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history dropping the I'm outline.
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Yeah.
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I kind of thought that when I heard
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it too, but, um, wild, uh,
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Aaron Frazier, what hate?
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Apparently just the... I don't know.
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If you want... I don't know.
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I don't...
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If you are truly a businessman who has
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done all these deals and all these...
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like nothing that I heard yesterday would
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deter you from wanting to still purchase
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this.
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If it truly was in your heart to
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purchase CrossFit,
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I don't think anything that was said
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yesterday on any of the shows would deter
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you from continuing on.
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If all of that deterred you,
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you're not really convicted in trying to
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buy CrossFit.
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So...
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I mean, that's my thought.
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I don't think anybody said anything about
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anyone's family.
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I don't, I don't,
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I don't know what DMS he got.
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So, you know,
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we're speaking on public comments.
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I didn't see anything there.
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I don't know what he was DM or
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anything like that.
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Aaron says any criticism is hate.
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I don't think there was anything in the
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show that was hateful.
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There were things saying like there were
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misunderstandings of how CrossFit works
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and how the business plan didn't apply to
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things like that.
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And again,
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none of us have seen anything of a
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direct message that he may have received
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or his family may have received.
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We don't know.
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Right, exactly, Jonathan.
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We don't know what DM he was sent.
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So it's hard to comment that he didn't
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receive any hate just judging on public
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comment when he could have received
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private messages that we have not seen.
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At AI CrossFit,
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people get nervous and crumble under
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pressure all the time.
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So anyway,
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where I stand today is we had a
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very heated discussion last night.
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And I think like,
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I think everybody is so passionate about
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what we do and want it to be
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the best thing it can be.
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And I said this last night.
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There's a business plan that you put forth
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to investors to get them to buy into
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your idea.
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And you're probably bragging and making
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numbers more than unrealistic to get
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people to buy in thinking that you can
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make some money doing whatever you're
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going to do because you're asking them to
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put money forward to help you.
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So you are selling.
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And when you're selling, you are
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bragging you are overstating you're doing
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things like that and i said last night
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i didn't think that if you that would
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be a document that you would want to
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be public because you are kind of
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overreaching on your plan to get people to
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buy in to what you want to do
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the fact that it went public is probably
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not a good thing for him
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Now,
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should it be the thing that makes them
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crumble and walk away?
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I don't think so.
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But it would make it more difficult.
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Jay Birch is asking,
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wouldn't that make it dishonest?
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It's like your resume.
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When you put out a resume and you're
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trying to get a job,
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you put the highlights of your career in
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that resume.
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You don't tell them about the time you
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messed up on this document or messed up
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on this project.
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You are highlighting yourself so that
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people buy into you and hire you.
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In a business plan to investors,
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you are doing the most optimistic view of
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what could happen if everything goes
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right.
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And I think that that is what has
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happened here.
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Yeah.
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At AI,
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does Deebs really think it was a good
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plan?
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He obviously is coming from a business
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venture perspective and not what's best
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for the company, very different avenues.
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Here's my thing.
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I think there were good aspects of the
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plan.
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And there were things that were completely
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ridiculous that drove people away as soon
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as they read them.
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So I don't think that...
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I don't know.
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I don't know how to answer that.
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I think that there were concepts in there
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that could be looked at in the future.
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Like there was a piece in there,
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and it's hard to say this because it's
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not available anymore,
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but there was a piece in there about
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a tiered affiliate structure.
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where affiliates who needed more help,
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more interaction with CrossFit HQ would
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pay more for that service than an
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affiliate that didn't need all that stuff.
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And they would pay a lower fee because
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they don't need the mentorship, the help,
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and the interaction.
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I think that's a better concept than what
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we have now.
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Why should a businessman have to pay more
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like everybody else because we're offering
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services that they no longer need?
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That's a cool concept that I think could
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be looked at by a future owner that
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would make some changes to the way we
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do business.
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But all that's going to get thrown away
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because of the hike fees to ten thousand
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dollar bit that's in there.
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Or, you know,
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we're going to make we're going to be
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a billion dollar company five years down
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the road.
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people look at those numbers and think
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this is utterly ridiculous.
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If you raised a thousand dollars,
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you're not going to have any affiliates
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to,
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to market to and so on and so
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on and so on.
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Right.
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And so that got everybody to hit the
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stop button before they looked at,
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maybe there were some things in there that
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actually did make sense.
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Um,
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And that's the argument I was trying to
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make last night.
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I do think we need to have someone
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with an open mind,
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someone that will look into how we can
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grow in the future.
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I do think that going from fifteen
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thousand affiliates to eight thousand is a
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horrible trend that someone needs to look
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at and figure out what are the ways
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that we can rebound from that.
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And I don't think just going backwards is
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the way to do it.
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I don't know if you can name companies
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in the past that have gone backwards and
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been successful at replenishing what they
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lost.
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When Greg built this thing,
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he was the only thing in the space
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that was doing what he was doing.
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We don't have that anymore.
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There is competition now.
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There's competition for those gym members.
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So how do we change things just enough
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to be able to retain who we are,
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what we do,
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and show the world that this is better
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than the other alternatives?
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And I don't think going backwards alone is
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the only way out.
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I think people like Matt Souza have a
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nice combination of going backwards but
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looking ahead and making some changes to
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benefit the company in a way and find
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new avenues to help support gyms and to
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help support the members.
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But Matt doesn't have two hundred million
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dollars to invest in CrossFit.
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So how do we find
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the piece that makes sense, right?
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Someone who has the money to do it,
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but has the smarts and the brains and,
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or maybe hires the right people to come
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in and make the changes needed to start
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rebuilding the number of affiliates we
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have to rebuild the people going into the
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gyms.
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And I don't think that any proposal should
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just be blanketly shut off because
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Because there's going to be good ideas and
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bad ideas.
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And we need to nitpick through what we
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have to filter out the good and get
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rid of the bad ideas and put together
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some kind of compilation of a plan that
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works.
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And if it's the existing people there,
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because, you know,
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Wade has said in other messages that I've
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seen that, you know,
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there are no other buyers.
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He was it.
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He was the last hope for CrossFit.
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So if it's staying with Berkshire and it's
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staying with Don Fall,
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can they take some of the things they've
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seen in business plans that made sense,
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weed out all the bad and start making
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the changes necessary to move forward as a
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company?
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Because I don't want CrossFit to be the
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next blockbuster or to be the next company
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that refused to change and then just died
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on the vine.
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Nobody wants that to happen.
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CrossFit says, here's the issue.
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You don't need to be a CrossFit affiliate
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to do functional fitness now.
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That's my point.
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There is competition.
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But the name CrossFit still means
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something.
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The name CrossFit still means something.
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So how do we show that to the
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world?
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Frida says,
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here is one lower affiliate fee added fees
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per one local affiliate.
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No, I don't know.
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Added fees per extra service wanted
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needed.
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Yeah,
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I think that goes back to what the
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tier piece of the business plan was.
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i agree crossfit i do crossfit at for
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free at five a.m squat club it's a
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live workout with high level coaching i'm
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curious what the mindset will be from hq
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fall if it's not selling as far as
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how much effort they will be willing to
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put forth the one thing i'll say about
21:08
crossfit is they've made changes over the
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last eight to nine months they've made
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significant changes in the way they do
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business
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Can they keep that momentum rolling
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without a sale?
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I don't know.
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I don't know what that is.
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I hope so.
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I hope they say, listen,
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we need to back off the sale.
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We need to look at everything and we
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need to make some changes to increase the
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value of the company.
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And then maybe we put it up for
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sale in a couple more years.
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Becoming a Mayhem affiliate makes a lot of
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sense.
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I'd have to see more about what Mayhem
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is doing.
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It's easy to be critical of the thing
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that exists.
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But it's much harder to then implement a
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plan, an organization,
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a system that is better than the one
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that is already there.
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I mean,
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just look at the WFP that made all
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these promises that they were going to be
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better than CrossFit at,
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and they haven't been able to hold up
22:24
to any one of those promises.
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Vicky,
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the name of CrossFit should mean more than
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just a workout like it used to.
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The way that Doc spells it out,
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it would be just another workout.
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I don't think we can read that much
22:49
into a doc.
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I mean,
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what CrossFit used to be is more of
22:54
an emotion than it is.
22:55
And how do you read emotion into words?
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So I don't know.
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I hear what you're saying,
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and I like the fact of going back
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to being more of like more than just
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a workout.
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I get that point.
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But I still think you need to look
23:16
at different avenues and ways of doing
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business.
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And my point last night was just because
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someone else is doing it doesn't mean that
23:25
you give up that market share to somebody
23:28
else.
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The whole online piece, everybody's like,
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well, stream yards are stream yard.
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Street parking is already doing that.
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Well,
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it doesn't mean that CrossFit with its
23:40
name can't enter that market and do
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something better than that.
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the value of the name comes down to
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the value of the brand and what sets
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us apart.
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Unfortunately,
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we haven't been leaning into that enough.
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And Deeb sounds like he wants to remove
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even more of that.
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Well, from everything I've said,
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Deeb's is gone.
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Deeb's is out.
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He doesn't,
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he's not a part of this anymore.
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So we don't even have to factor that
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in,
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but it doesn't mean that it doesn't mean
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that we can't have a discussion of things
24:20
that need to change and take the good
24:22
parts of a plan out of it.
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David Reed, rich is greater than well.
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It's easy to say that as an athlete,
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as a guy who runs a gym,
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but what has Rich or Austin or Rory
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told us about what's going on there from
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anything greater than what they already
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are?
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I have not heard a plan from them
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at all to just jump over from CrossFit
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to a mayhem and affiliate doesn't seem
24:58
practical on my part until I see more.
25:10
Seema Boobs, courtesy of Vindicate.
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Sister works out in her garage with a
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remote coach.
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I would call it functional fitness.
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The problem is that CrossFit would call
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that CrossFit.
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They think they have something they don't.
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Again, you're exactly right.
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They do not have a trademark they can
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lean on,
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but they do have a name that means
25:35
something to a lot of people.
25:37
It
25:41
There are other people that could care
25:43
less than what they're doing is called
25:44
CrossFit.
25:46
But you have to show that what you're
25:48
doing means something.
25:52
Shanna says emotion is punctuation marks.
25:59
It's still not as readable as a face
26:01
or body language.
26:06
Vicky, I agree with you there.
26:07
I think there are some good ideas in
26:09
that document.
26:11
That's all I'm saying is let's just take
26:12
a step back.
26:13
Now that we know Deebs is out and
26:15
this plan is not going to come to
26:17
fruition,
26:18
it was out there as some ideas that
26:20
were floated.
26:21
It doesn't mean that everything in the
26:24
document was bad.
26:26
Why can't we pick through it,
26:29
find stuff that is interesting,
26:32
find stuff that actually could make sense?
26:35
Maybe if you pull it back a tick,
26:37
it really makes sense.
26:40
I hate the idea that you say, okay,
26:43
we're going to sell Onnit protein powder
26:46
and...
26:47
we're going to do a mass buy so
26:51
that the affiliates can get it and you're
26:53
going to sell on it protein power at
26:56
your affiliates.
26:57
I hate that that's mandated,
26:59
but I like the idea of doing partnerships
27:01
with those types of companies where you
27:04
have the buying power of a big company
27:06
and then people can come in and get
27:09
supplements to sell at their affiliate at
27:11
a cheaper price.
27:14
Like that makes sense to me,
27:16
but not mandating that you sell that
27:18
protein powder,
27:21
but using HQ's partnerships and purchase
27:25
power to get things cheaper to be able
27:28
to sell at your affiliate if you wish
27:30
to.
27:34
So taking that one idea from Deeb's
27:37
business plan and pulling it back a touch
27:41
to something that's more reasonable and
27:43
makes sense for the affiliates,
27:46
why can't something like that be done?
27:51
As an affiliate,
27:52
and say you're a bigger affiliate of three
27:54
hundred members,
27:56
you don't have the purchasing power of
27:58
CrossFit HQ with eight thousand affiliates
28:02
times a hundred members.
28:06
And if they can supply that purchasing
28:09
power to make things more cost effective
28:13
for the affiliates to then sell at their
28:16
locations because they want to,
28:19
not because they have to,
28:21
I think that makes sense.
28:26
So there's a lot of those little things
28:29
within that document that I think if we're
28:32
just tweaked a tiny bit would make sense
28:37
and could be implemented.
28:39
And there are other things in there that
28:40
are completely outrageous that you can
28:43
toss away.
28:49
And so...
28:52
it was hard to kind of communicate that
28:54
last night because I was arguing with
28:57
Jamie a lot and with Carolyn a little
28:59
bit.
29:00
And, and so I wanted to,
29:03
and now that it's all done and Deebner's
29:05
apparently out, none of it,
29:08
none of it makes sense anymore.
29:10
that we get worked up over this.
29:13
Now that we're not worked up and it's
29:14
not going to be implemented,
29:16
let's take a step back and look at
29:18
maybe what we can retrieve from this
29:21
document and what can be used as a
29:25
good idea moving forward.
29:33
Ortega,
29:33
a lot of affiliates already buy products
29:35
wholesale and become distributors.
29:37
Right.
29:38
But wholesale can mean different things
29:40
depending on the purchasing power and the
29:42
size of the entity buying it.
29:45
And if you are tens of thousands of
29:49
people you're buying it for,
29:51
as opposed to a couple hundred,
29:53
your purchasing power becomes a lot
29:55
greater.
30:00
CrossFit, I know.
30:02
He wanted to turn it into MLM.
30:04
I do not want that to happen.
30:06
I'm taking that idea and tweaking it into
30:08
a way that actually makes sense.
30:17
RX for Time,
30:18
that document was a complete brain dump,
30:20
so it was kind of inevitable that some
30:22
ideas would be good.
30:25
However it got on the page...
30:28
doesn't really matter if the idea is good.
30:37
So I guess what I'm saying is let's
30:41
not look at the source and let's just
30:43
look at the ideas and what can be
30:46
taken from that.
30:53
Is that concept the same thing as Advocare
30:55
thing they did back when?
31:02
Advocare was a complete MLM.
31:03
I do not think they should go into
31:05
an MLM.
31:07
Multi-level marketing is a pyramid scheme
31:11
in a way that the people at the
31:13
top make a lot of money.
31:14
The people at the bottom of the pyramid
31:16
do not.
31:17
There's a lot of pyramid schemes out there
31:19
that disguise themselves as other things.
31:22
I do not think they should do that.
31:25
But using your purchasing power is a
31:27
different concept.
31:29
It's not... It's not that...
31:33
It's not that CrossFit is using the
31:35
purchasing power to make the most money at
31:37
the top of the pyramid.
31:40
It's they're using the purchasing power to
31:42
make your affiliate fee more valuable and
31:45
you wanting to be a part of it.
31:50
It's adding value to the affiliate fee.
31:54
It's not CrossFit taking extra profit off
31:59
the top of the purchasing power.
32:01
It's just doing the purchasing power to
32:03
make your affiliate fee more valuable to
32:07
the affiliate owner.
32:16
Seema Boobs, courtesy of Vindicate,
32:18
you're far too logical for OG CrossFit
32:20
fans.
32:20
They thrive on emotion.
32:25
What I'm banking on is that today when
32:27
we know that there is nobody behind this
32:28
plan and this plan is going nowhere,
32:31
we don't have to add emotion to it
32:32
because there's no threat to it.
32:35
There's no threat to this document
32:37
anymore.
32:38
There's just thoughts on paper,
32:41
and some of those thoughts may actually be
32:43
good.
32:44
So why throw it all away for nothing,
32:47
right?
32:57
Sarah Cox,
32:58
why not sell products to members that
33:00
they're already buying and pump that money
33:02
back to affiliates?
33:04
That's kind of what I'm saying, Sarah,
33:05
exactly.
33:07
And you're a business owner.
33:09
You know if like CrossFit HQ came to
33:11
you and said, hey,
33:13
we have a group of eight thousand
33:15
affiliates who want to sell X product.
33:20
Their purchasing power on the amount of
33:22
product that they would purchase would
33:25
make it easier for you to sell that
33:28
to them cheaper than selling to an
33:30
affiliate of three hundred.
33:33
So the people are already using the
33:36
product in the gym.
33:37
You're just finding a way to make it
33:39
cheaper and the affiliates giving them the
33:42
ability to sell it at a cheaper price
33:44
to their members and make becoming a gym
33:47
member a better value,
33:49
making paying an affiliate fee a better
33:51
value, all of that.
33:59
Okay.
34:03
OG CrossFit just want to be stuck in
34:05
two thousand fourteen.
34:08
People love this thing called CrossFit.
34:12
They get emotional about it.
34:14
They want to be a part of it.
34:16
And because they were there in the
34:18
beginning,
34:19
they they feel like they are a part
34:22
of the the group that took on the
34:25
world and won.
34:27
I get it.
34:28
I was one of the first members in
34:30
my affiliate in two thousand eleven and I
34:33
felt like I owned the joint.
34:35
Every time there was a big decision,
34:38
me and my friends would give our advice
34:39
to the owner.
34:40
And what I learned is I didn't pay
34:43
a dime for that.
34:44
And it's really up to them how they
34:46
want to run their business.
34:49
And so sometimes you have to take a
34:51
step back and pull the emotion out of
34:54
it and understand that you can be someone
34:57
who gives advice,
34:59
but you can't really tell them what to
35:01
do.
35:04
And I think that that happens a lot
35:06
of times in CrossFit.
35:10
As you can tell,
35:11
when that document was released yesterday,
35:14
so many people were interested.
35:15
So many people had an opinion.
35:17
So many people said what their opinion
35:19
was.
35:28
But to PE,
35:29
adding value means I need to be paid
35:30
more.
35:34
But in what way?
35:37
If your affiliate fee then becomes worth
35:40
more and more gyms sign up with the
35:42
affiliate fee, you are getting paid more.
35:47
Just because you're not siphoning money
35:49
off of everything that you're doing
35:51
doesn't mean that you're not making money.
36:00
Jay Birch X asks, like peptides.
36:02
Listen,
36:03
peptides are legal unless you're competing
36:05
in CrossFit.
36:08
If it's legal,
36:09
why can't it be sold in the gym?
36:11
There are people that have low T,
36:14
that do testosterone, replacement therapy.
36:18
There are people that use peptides to
36:20
recover from injuries.
36:21
If you are not competing in CrossFit,
36:24
I don't understand why there is such a
36:27
stigma.
36:29
If you're an athlete trying to compete,
36:32
don't take them.
36:35
But when Joe Blow had elbow surgery and
36:40
wants to recover faster,
36:42
and it's completely legal in this country,
36:45
why would you not consider it?
36:50
And maybe you have something against it.
36:52
I don't know.
36:54
But...
36:55
Dude, I'm fifty five years old.
36:57
I want to feel as good as I
36:58
can moving forward.
37:00
If it helps me recover from a surgery
37:02
and helps me do my day to day
37:04
life better.
37:08
I'm all for it.
37:13
In Europe, they are not.
37:15
OK, well, that's a problem there,
37:16
but in the United States, not a problem.
37:27
But CrossFit won't let you compete in the
37:31
Open if you take peptides.
37:36
CrossFit can change that rule any year,
37:39
any time.
37:47
They can remove it from the banned
37:49
substance list tomorrow if they wish to.
37:56
So I don't know.
38:01
The other thing is, let's be honest.
38:03
There are people taking testosterone all
38:05
over the place because they have low T
38:08
and they're competing in the open.
38:09
They just don't go onto a podcast and
38:10
admit they've done it.
38:12
And they're never going to go to the
38:14
CrossFit games.
38:15
They're never going to go to semifinals.
38:16
They're just trying to live life.
38:20
And we probably shouldn't be turning those
38:22
people away from doing the open either.
38:31
Phil the Pooper,
38:32
I thought it was for rats.
38:36
Everybody take them.
38:37
Rats, people, everything.
38:43
Unless CrossFit partners with a peptide
38:45
company, they can do what they want,
38:48
really.
38:53
I mean, technically,
38:54
CrossFit could partner with a peptide
38:56
company.
38:57
They can change the banned substance list
38:59
tomorrow.
39:12
I don't have a stigma.
39:15
I don't care about peptides,
39:16
says Jay Birch.
39:22
Amanda Fillers,
39:23
they can do whatever they want.
39:24
It's their game, their rules.
39:28
And if they find that medically it's
39:30
better to take a peptide to recover and
39:33
that they should be allowing them more
39:35
often, then take a peptide.
39:42
Now,
39:43
from a performance enhancement standpoint,
39:46
testosterone is a whole different story.
39:50
But for a peptide,
39:51
if you're just using it to recover from
39:53
an injury and you're just trying to live
39:55
life, use it.
39:59
Use it.
40:07
So here we stand.
40:09
We had a ton of drama on a
40:11
Sunday.
40:12
By Monday, the person is out.
40:15
The document has been pulled.
40:19
Who knows where we're going to be
40:20
tomorrow?
40:23
At this point,
40:24
I just kind of hope they don't sell
40:26
and the people keep making changes and
40:29
keep trying to do better.
40:32
At least there's effort.
40:33
It's like when a football...
40:34
I was listening to football shows
40:37
yesterday and they talked about that this
40:40
guy had had to fill in on defense.
40:42
And the best thing about him is that
40:44
he went a hundred miles an hour with
40:46
full effort.
40:47
Now, was he perfect every play?
40:50
No.
40:50
But if you're going with full effort...
40:54
you can make up for some of the
40:55
mistakes he makes.
41:01
And CrossFit has been,
41:02
in the last few months,
41:04
going at what I deem to be full
41:06
effort.
41:07
And if they keep going at full effort,
41:10
then that's something that's going right.
41:12
Now it's just fine-tuning it to do just
41:17
a little bit better.
41:27
Jaybird says they're never going to be
41:28
tested.
41:29
They won't be.
41:30
I mean,
41:31
I'm never getting tested in the open ever.
41:37
I wish there were peptides in a pill
41:40
form at the same potency as a shot.
41:42
I can't give myself shots.
41:47
Rx for Time, like soccer parents,
41:49
we know exactly what to do.
41:50
They just need to ask us.
41:52
I know.
41:53
I'd never watched a soccer game until my
41:55
daughter started playing,
41:57
and I yelled at the refs all the
41:59
time about what they called incorrectly.
42:02
And honest to God,
42:04
before my daughter played,
42:05
I couldn't even tell you one rule about
42:07
soccer.
42:07
But two weeks in,
42:08
I knew all of them and that the
42:10
refs didn't.
42:12
I am completely with you.
42:17
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42:19
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42:51
With that, it's been a fun lunch,
42:54
nice discussion.
42:55
Can't wait to talk to you guys tomorrow.
42:58
We will see you all tomorrow on Lunch
43:02
with the Clydesdale.
43:03
Bye, guys.