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Shockwave, Violence & Betrayal | AEW All Out Fallout · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: ignition with the aw fat podcast team.
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: This is Kelson and this is Alex and we just
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: had All Out two weeks after All In, and that
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: was a crazy.
• 0:23
  Speaker 3: Pay per view.
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: Just to recap some of the things that we saw.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: We saw Danny Garcia attempt to break and jfsnack possibly
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: break it. He did have to get carted off by
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: ambulance members.
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: I think he was just lazy. Maybe he hit so
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: hard he thought he was Orge Cassidy.
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had crazy, like probably the craziest thumbtack spot
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: I can remember remember in recent memory, with Chris Statlander
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: doing the splits on thumbtacks.
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: So if you remember earlier in the show, JF actually
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: was Daniel Garcia that PICKEDJF right the scrotum and I said,
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: ow my balls from Idiocracy And then when Chris Statlander
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: did that spot, I went o my book. No, I
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: didn't know what to say, so I just left it
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: at desk.
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anything you could have said wouldn't have been PG.
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, like so that match was crazy, and
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: they've had a few. I remember that Diamonte Layla hirsh
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: match on the Last Ring of Honor pay per view
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: was just insane WIF match, that gat match. Yeah, and
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: this was this was a great match I thought as well.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: It was definitely the best match in Chris Statlander and
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: Willow's ongoing history. Agree, But yeah, that was just the
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: tip of the violent iceberg if you will. Then we
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: had Brian Danielson versus Jack Perry. Pretty it was a
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: good match. I thought it was a good showing from
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: Jack Perry. But the ending with the Blackpool Combat Club,
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: John Moxley basically saves Brian Danielson from Christian Cage, cashing
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: in the contract on him, right, and then they're all
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: raising his hand and celebrating them.
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: And probably the last.
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: Person I would expect to turn on Brian Danielson or
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: to be the first person to attack him, Claudio Castignoli,
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: hits him with the European uppercut.
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: Well, he had had that bastard pack holding back the
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: weepy wheeler utah too. Geez, yeah, got that was good.
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: That was really good. I like that.
• 3:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, he really didn't put up much of
• 3:17
  Speaker 4: a fight though.
• 3:20
  Speaker 3: He was almost just.
• 3:24
  Speaker 5: But I mean, he just seemed to like he was
• 3:28
  Speaker 5: crying and upset, but to me, it just seemed like
• 3:30
  Speaker 5: that was it. He wasn't like really trying that hard
• 3:32
  Speaker 5: to get over there.
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also think it's kind of like there's
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: a question of does he even want to stop it?
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: Does he want to join Brian Danielson's side, or does
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: he want to stay with the rest of the members?
• 3:47
  Speaker 5: You know, I think he I think he made his
• 3:51
  Speaker 5: decision because didn't he stay with Danielson when everybody else left?
• 3:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, he did, That's what I thought.
• 3:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he left with Danielson. So it kind of brings
• 4:00
  Speaker 5: in the question the Trios titles.
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, but yeah, I thought that was
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: amazing and just it. Yeah, it was really well done.
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: It's made me so much more interested in John Moxley.
• 4:19
  Speaker 2: And we can't forget John Moxley bringing the plastic bag.
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  Speaker 2: And I know this was controversial, but you know, it's
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: not as controversial as some of the other things we'll
• 4:31
  Speaker 2: talk about tonight in my opinion, because.
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: See, and I disagree with you there, but go ahead.
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: Because to me, you know, some of the things that
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: I have more of an issue with are things that
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: are going to hurt people, for like literally hurt the wrestlers,
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: like give them real injuries or ongoing issues. This isn't
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: something that can be worked. I know it's violent, it's
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: maybe something you don't want kids while watching, but I
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: find the shockingness of it kind of good in a way.
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: Like and I say that as someone that's I enjoy
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: horror movies.
• 5:12
  Speaker 3: I enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: Like gore and stuff, you know, not over the top.
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  Speaker 2: But I I'm not opposed to that. I'm not squeamish.
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: I guess well, I enjoyed Doubt Nabby and I had
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: no problem with it.
• 5:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, is down Nabby gory? I haven't checked that out.
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: It depends on how bored you get with it, because
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: then you can fall asleep and you could have Hella
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: Dalton Nabby induced nightmares. I'm telling you, man, you thick
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: up some really weird stuff.
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So what did you think of the plastic bag use Kelson?
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what do you There are a lot
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: of things that happen on that pay per view that
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: were considered to have gone too far. I'll point out
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: three things, one being the plastic bag, the other being
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: the cinder block. Basically that was that was bad. I mean,
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a gimmicked cinder block
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: or or not. Well, there was four things. Then you
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: had the syringe, which was definitely gimmicked. I mean you
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: could clearly see it, and the chair shot that hangman
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: gave the swerve with the obvious gimmick chair. Of all
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: the things that was done, the syringe and the chair
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: shot are the ones that are getting the most that
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: went too far where those are probably the least painful because,
• 6:56
  Speaker 1: like I said, the syringe was clearly you could see
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: it gimmicked. Yeah, and the chair was gimmicked. I don't
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: know whether the uh, the brick was gimmicked or not,
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: but yeah, the plastic bag is the thing that I
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: think was maybe a little bit irresponsible, I guess is
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: the best way to put it. Because don't get me
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: wrong here, I'm not making a big deal out of
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: it because I don't really see that there was anything
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: wrong with it. But that looked really real because there
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: was no like space, you know there. It looked like
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: he had and I was like, after a while, I
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: was like, he's gonna get carbon dioxide poisoning because there's
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: they weren't They had that bag tight on his head.
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: And there was no rips in the bag. Usually there's
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: some visible rips. I didn't see one that I mean
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: I would I would think if everything that was done,
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: that was probably the one thing that went to me
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: over the top. Maybe if it had been shorter, would
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: have been that big of a deal, but that could
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: be dangerous for kids. But it's on a pay per view.
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: I want to stress that this is not on Dynamite
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: or rampage or collision. It's on a pay per view,
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: and you've got to expect more in a pay per view. Now,
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that a plastic bag over Brian Danielson's
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: head is more necessarily, but what it is is it's
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: something different and something edgy and something that may have
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: gone a little bit too far. But again, it's on
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: a pay per view, so honestly, I don't have a
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: problem with it. And look, there are people that are
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: finding the well, I'm not even gonna say people, there
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: are attention horrors on the internet that are trying to
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: make a big deal out of this pay per view
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: and the violence that was in it. I don't get it.
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: No, And yeah, like yes, the paper did the plastic
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: bag because I imagine kids watching it, and yeah, it is
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: a pay per view. It was on it was like
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: well past ten. It was probably close to eleven o'clock
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: when I was actually on exactly.
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, so.
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: I think they probably wouldn't see it generally, and and
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: it made it so much better because if Moxley was
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: just you know, choking out, Brian Danielson and Wheeler Yuda
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: is crying in pox arms, it wouldn't it wouldn't have
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: the impact that it did with the plastic bag. I'm
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: not saying they should overdo it or even do it again,
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: but it really made that moment so much more in
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: my opinion.
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they could have gotten like, uh, you know, like
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: a camera cable or something like that and went to
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: strangle him what had the same kind of thing, But
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: this was something that we hadn't seen before and so
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: it was different and it was I hate to use
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: the word special, but it was. It was special and
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: you know, and special people like me enjoyed it.
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah.
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: What what does everybody else think? Because it's basically been
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: the the Alex and Kelson Show so far? What what
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: what are your other opinions?
• 10:46
  Speaker 4: I get where they're upset about it.
• 10:47
  Speaker 5: I understand it was that was to me was it
• 10:51
  Speaker 5: wasn't so much that it was over too much over
• 10:53
  Speaker 5: the top. It's just you don't I'm you just don't
• 10:57
  Speaker 5: show that kind of stuff on, even on a per
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: view where you're trying to physically murder somebody. That's what
• 11:03
  Speaker 5: it comes across as. And it would have been just
• 11:06
  Speaker 5: as good had they used the cable or just a
• 11:08
  Speaker 5: rear naked choke hold. I don't think the plastic bag
• 11:11
  Speaker 5: was necessary.
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: But I get why they did it.
• 11:17
  Speaker 5: The whole Utah thing in the corner I thought was
• 11:19
  Speaker 5: funny because, like I said, I didn't think he put
• 11:21
  Speaker 5: any kind of fight up at all.
• 11:22
  Speaker 4: He just sort of stood there and cried.
• 11:24
  Speaker 5: And I mean, if he really worried that much about
• 11:27
  Speaker 5: that Brian, he'd have been over there one way or
• 11:30
  Speaker 5: the other. He would have put up up some kind
• 11:31
  Speaker 5: of a fight, and he didn't. He just kind of
• 11:33
  Speaker 5: stood in there and pack held him and that.
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: Was that the rest of the show.
• 11:39
  Speaker 5: I don't like needles, but I didn't think it was
• 11:41
  Speaker 5: that big a deal For the the uh syringe, I
• 11:44
  Speaker 5: thought that was kind of I thought it was kind
• 11:46
  Speaker 5: of weird that it stuck and I was like, wow,
• 11:49
  Speaker 5: he kept it inn there, and then as soon as
• 11:50
  Speaker 5: he started to go for the chair, I said, nov Kane,
• 11:53
  Speaker 5: that's awesome.
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: Put him out so he won't feel no King, that's awesome.
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: I mean that was what it was like.
• 11:59
  Speaker 5: And I was just like, Okay, I mean, this was
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: probably the most violent they've ever been on a show,
• 12:05
  Speaker 5: including the use of the pizza cutter and all the
• 12:09
  Speaker 5: other crap that they've done in the past, I think
• 12:11
  Speaker 5: this was definitely the most violent.
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 12:15
  Speaker 5: I don't know if we'll ever see it again, at
• 12:18
  Speaker 5: least not the stuff from the last two matches.
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: Other than that, I thought it was a normal pay
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: per view.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one other kind of things and Kay, you can
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: help me out with this, well, other kind of things.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: When we jump, suddenly brought up the piece of cutter.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: I remember Penta put the skewers into. Moxley said, there's
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: been different things that Aw's used specifically of pay per views.
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: I think one of the goorious was that the was
• 12:48
  Speaker 5: it who was it that was in that street that
• 12:49
  Speaker 5: Texas death? Matt Moxley, the bob wire table that they
• 12:53
  Speaker 5: went into that was like it wasn't like a table.
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: But was like a trap. That was pretty wicked. Yeah,
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: that was pretty wicked.
• 13:03
  Speaker 6: Uh. You know, I didn't have a problem with I
• 13:07
  Speaker 6: watched videos. I'm kind of desensitized to it. I didn't care.
• 13:10
  Speaker 6: I think there are a lot of people neck beards
• 13:14
  Speaker 6: out there just trying to stir up stuff. But if
• 13:18
  Speaker 6: you're gonna sit there and say say that I love people,
• 13:21
  Speaker 6: say that a w saw, but then turn around and
• 13:23
  Speaker 6: do this, and which is it? But I don't know it.
• 13:27
  Speaker 6: It's wrestling and you have to do stuff like that
• 13:29
  Speaker 6: to get attention.
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: What about did you watch the Attitude era? MK? Yes,
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: I mean some of the ship that all Undertaker did was.
• 13:43
  Speaker 6: On a Taker cross he you know, didn't he hang
• 13:47
  Speaker 6: Big Boss Man off?
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 13:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's just the tip of the iceberg
• 13:53
  Speaker 6: of what they did. But you know, but like I said,
• 13:57
  Speaker 6: we've seen this spot before with the Bag, before with
• 14:00
  Speaker 6: with Terry Funk and Rick Flair, So it's not so
• 14:03
  Speaker 6: it's been done before. I don't know. There's some there
• 14:06
  Speaker 6: was some guy on the internet, some guy out there
• 14:09
  Speaker 6: saying that that that they stole the needle move from him.
• 14:14
  Speaker 6: I thought that was kind of ridiculous, like no one
• 14:16
  Speaker 6: cares about some guy.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: I jammed the needle of Nova Kan into my sister's
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: skull at times, so they stole from me. I'm probably
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: older than that guy, but.
• 14:30
  Speaker 6: But it's it's weird to me that people are so
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: every time AW does something like that, because I believe
• 14:38
  Speaker 6: I don't know when it was, but I think during
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: a women's after women's match that was typically brutal, w
• 14:46
  Speaker 6: W went to sponsors and tried to get them canceled
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: because of it. So, uh, I don't remember who what
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: it was was. It was it all out, it was
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: the lights out match or something, but it just that
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: WWE can do shit like that, but AW can't.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Well, you have to look at the culture of social media.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: You know. There have been times that I've woken up
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: in the morning and tongue in cheek, I've gone onto
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: my personal Twitter account and posted something like, oh guys,
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: what are we boycotting today? You know, just being sarcastic,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: because people will get up in arms about something and
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: the next day they're up in arms about something else
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: totally unrelated. It's just the way it is. You got
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: keyboard warriors out there that are rather pathetic. You know,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: face it, and it happens on Twitter, it happens on Reddit.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: They get disgusted and it's not worth the time. And
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: then you have these idiots coming out there like that
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: one woman was I guess I had a petition to
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: you know, boycott or whatever, cancel aw you. There was
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: one woman who didn't comber hair, lay it down. And
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: then there was that one guy that wore a Luca mask.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: You know, I made a total idiot out of the side.
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: I died on the Luca mask. I follow a guy
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: named follow the Revolution on Facebook, and he posted a
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: video of this guy in Lucia mask claiming claiming to
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: be La Parka the Parka and basically said it's time
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: for Swerb and Amalson to come home. News flash, buddy,
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: they don't want to go home. They enjoy where it's at.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Well, La park is dead.
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: So oh, I didn't know that.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: He passed away quite a while ago. So rested peace, Laparka.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, that's some moron, use your name and stupidity.
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: Seeing something like that, I cringed so hard. I wanted
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: to feel bad for him. I did.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Well. Look, you know, overall I thought that All Out
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: was really really good. It had some spots on it
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: that I didn't care. I really, really really wish that
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Okada Tekeshta would have gone one on one, you know,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: because let's face it, Orge Cassidy was only at that
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: match so that Orange Cassidy would be in a match.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was the only purpose. And Brisco was
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: there to be the foil for Orage Cassidy. I mean,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: that's the way I look at it. I'm sorry, but
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: that's the way it is. I have to give credit
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: to Chris Statlander Willow Nightingale because remember they were on
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: right after will Osprey and Pac match, which everybody thought
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: would probably be a contender for to match at a
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: night and it was, and then you didn't want to
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: follow that match, and Willow and Chris came out there
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: and they put everything out on the table. And guess what,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: when I was watching that match, I forgot that Ospray
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: and Pack even happened. And that is the best compliment
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I could give those two women. They put on a
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: hell of a show, So good for them. I mean
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I think that everything on the show, the pre show
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: was just god awful, but everything, oh my god, It's
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: like Okay, who else are we going to trot out here?
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: You know? But the show itself was really really good.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: It really was that it had a lot of variety
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: to it, and it didn't have multimn matches except for
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: that one, which, unfortunately the Okata and Dakeshta and Cassidy
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: and Briscoe batch was the only match that I kind
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: of my mind started wandering because it was just you know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you know, from listening to the to me speaking, I
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: don't like these. I'm not a fan of trios matches
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: because there's too much going on, but I especially don't
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: like multiman matches where everybody's in the ring. There's too
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: much I don't know, stand it around outside of the
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: ring for no reason.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was the worst match of the show.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: But and it wasn't even that bad. It was it
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: was probably.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Wasn't It wasn't awful. Yeah, it wasn't awful. It was
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: just far below what everybody else did.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I didn't expect much from the tag team match,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: and that was just a really solid, NonStop action tag
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: team match. And yeah, both women's matches were pretty good.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I thought that the ending for the Mercedes Monett did.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: The match was a little awkward.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I'm sure everyone agrees, but needs.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: To get a new finisher because that just, you know what,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: you know what, it reminds me of it. It reminds me
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: of the GTS. When Monet hits it, it looks and
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: she hits it right, it looks pretty good, you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: but like when Punk would try to GTS or whoever
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: who else does the GTS uh Sebbi Guevara does it
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: every once in a while. There's a couple of other
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: guys that when they hit it, it looks really good,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: but if they miss it by even a millimeter, it
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: looks horrible. It really does, and they got to stop those.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Bonett needs a new finisher.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she's done it like ten times and
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: maybe one or two times it's yeah, yeah.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: She needs to do a nipple twister or something like that.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Something they get it. Just yeah, Well, I want to
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I want to move on because this is interesting and
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I have a couple of I have a couple of
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: opinions on that, but I'm going to hold my opinions,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: let everybody else talk first, and hopefully somebody will say
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: something that I was thinking, and then I won't have
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to you know. Fuck well anyway that what I'm we're
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: going to talk about is AW Shockwave?
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: What is it?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: And I mean there's rumors going around, and for each
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: rumor to comes up, somebody else shoots it down. There's
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: nothing definitive at all. I'm hearing this though that's already
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: been debunked. I'm hearing this. Nope, that's the bunk too,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you know. But Shockwave was trademarked by AW and the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: only thing that I will say is that it was
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: not trademarked for merchandising or anything of that sort. It
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: was trademarked as a wrestling show or event, So that
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: could mean it could be a show, it could be
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: a pay per view. Tony Kahan was asked about it
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: on the media Scrum and he said, basically a politician's answer.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: He spoke for two minutes and said absolutely nothing. Basically,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: he said, well, AW is going to send the shockwave
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: through professional wrestling, and that didn't give a hint or
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: a clue about anything. However, he did say somebody flat
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: out asked him in the next month or so, what
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: are the chances that we're going to hear about a
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: new TV deal? And Tony Khan said nine the chance,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: there's a ninety percent chance within the next month or so,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I believe was the words that we used that we'll
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: hear about the new TV deal. People are saying that
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: it's already signed, but it's non exclusive or is it?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: We don't know that is what is. Well, we can't
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: really say what a W shockwave is because then we
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: would all we don't know, so we'd all look kind
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: of dumb. But what do we want it to be?
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: I'm hoping it's a pay per view after uh sometime
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: next year between uh what is the one called in
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: in in Japan?
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: It's that's not Russell Dream next year.
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: Russell Dynasty is Okay, that's the way between that one
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: and anytime after that one before all out or uh
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: double or nothing would be an awesome pay per view.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: But I think I think Russell Dynasty's in in January,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: John January fifth, and then I think the next pay
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: per view is April and that's all in.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: No, they've got when are they going to Australia.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Or is it? Or is that the one? I don't know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: but I think that.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Was the second one.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I want to slam, right, and who
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: knows if that's even a paper.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's not listed as a paper, it's not listed
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: as a pay per view, but I think it's going
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: to be.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah it is.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so what do we want shock Wave to be?
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: You wanted to be a pay per view?
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: You want to I wanted to be something that has
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: never been seen in some way adding it kind of
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: takeing like a forbidden Door, but making it like like
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: a super show bigger than any forbidden Door has ever been,
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: maybe throwing in two or three indies or something that
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: we haven't seen before.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: All Right, One thing that I wanted to add that
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Tony Kahn did say a couple of times last week
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: was that he's very confident that aw will remain on
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: TNT and TBS, TNT and TBS in the new deal.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's not like, Okay, we're going to
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: cancel Rampage and Collision because those are both TNT shows, right,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: And so he's saying that we're gonna have shows on
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: TBS and TNT. Is Shockwave gonna be replacing one of
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: those shows? I don't know. What do you think? Guys?
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, go ahead, I'll go ahead, let's go ahead.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I was just gonna say, if if AW
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Shockwave is its own show, and it's in addition.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: To the three shows we have already.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of shows, like four shows, maybe this
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: is on a different channel. But I think maybe if
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: it's something more or like AW Dark and if this
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: new deal is not exclusive to WBD, so it's not
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: necessarily on TBS and TNT. Maybe it's on YouTube. Maybe
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: it's on to B I've heard rumor because they are
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: owned by Fox, or like Hulu, like one of these
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: other companies that's maybe a streaming service online, something like
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: that makes.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: More sense to me.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Don't forget don't forget Max.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it could be Max, but then that would
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: kind of make me think it is maybe more exclusive
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: with Warner Brothers Discovery. Yeah, so I would worry if
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: it's if it's its own show and it's supposed to
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: be a show that is important to a storyline, like
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: like Collision and Dynamite, which is really nowadays just Dynamite.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: But it is asking a lot from viewers to four shows.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Theoretically, Okay, okay, what do you think? Cut?
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: So this is gonna sound so this is what I
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: want it to be.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: I want I want it to be Saturday morning shockwave. Uh.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: I want a way to introduce kids to wrestling again.
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: And and I went back to the days when when
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: WWE was in Saturday mornings a little bit. Except it's
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: fun and it's a good way to get introductions and
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: just little matches. It doesn't have to be anything big
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: and just show show who wrestlers are and stuff like that.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't mind it being on to b uh. They
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: have live TV on there as well sometimes and they
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: could have their own, you know, Ring of Honor channel
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: and then make Ring of Our Lives sometimes too. Like
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: on Pluto has its own channel for PNA and stuff,
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: so they need the exposure. They don't have to make
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: it a big, big deal as well, so we'll see
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: what happened. But I want a TV show that's more
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: more just laid back and chilled and just introducting and
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: just introducing new wrestlers.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Well, I was just.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Gonna say, I don't see w D WBD giving up exclusivity.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: I really don't. I know.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: My son told me that next year there's supposed to
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: be a collaboration between Warner Brothers and Fox for a
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: streaming service.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: I thought it.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Was that was actually already supposed to be happened, but
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: he judge blocked it. It was called Venue and.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Okay like Sports exclusively, and Disney was part of it too.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: I think, I mean, for five years at exclusive rights,
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: why would they give that up?
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: I don't see that happening. I really truly don't see
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: that ever happening under this do this thing.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I understand what you WBD. Not giving
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: up exclusive rights is best for WBD, it's not best
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: for a w and Tony Kahan knows this. And here's
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: what I think is gonna happen. I think that Rampage
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: is going to be taken off of Friday Nights first
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and foremost, and it is going to be added to Dynamite.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: And I know that that is a controversial thing. It's
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: something that some people want and something that some people
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: don't want. It to be very much more difficult to
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: stay for three hours on the East Coast and watch
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Dynamite Rampage. I wouldn't be surprised if they just dropped
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the Rampage Moniker altogether after a while. I just made
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: it three or Dynamite a Collision. I've discussed it before.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: It remains to be seen whether they keep it on
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Saturday Night, but I do feel like Collision is going
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: to stay Collision. I would not at all be surprised
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: if they moved Collision to Friday Night because it just
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: makes sense. Saturday Night is it's just ratings hell, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you want people. I know ratings don't matter to a
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: lot of people, but you do want new fans to
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: be introduced to the product, and no new fans are
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: going to be added on on Friday Night. That leaves Shockwave.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: And what I think Shockwave could possibly be is there's
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: several things that could be. It could be a show
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that's on Max. It could be a show that's even
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: on YouTube. Again, we're talking about the non exclusive non exclusive. Uh,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: there's ben rumors tossed around that Fox wants a wrestling show. Look,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Fox lost SmackDown, And here's the thing. Spackdown got tremendous ratings,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: but it cost a lot to put smack Down on
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: AW is definitely a cheaper alternative than SmackDown. Is just
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: played and simple, and Fox could still make a lot
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: more money. Fox couldn't make just as much, if not
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: more money with a W. And I'm not putting down
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the SmackDown brand at all here, but if they do
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: it right and market it right, Fox couldn't make more
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: money off of AAW over the next four or five years,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: whatever the deal could possible. B if there is one,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: then they ever would with SmackDown because it doesn't cost
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: as much to produce the AW show. So here's what
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: my thought was is and this is what I really
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: do think it's going to be is I think it's
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: going to be a show that is going to be
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: on either Max or YouTube or something that that effect.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: And it's going to be a somewhat simwhere to Dark,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: you know, as far as the Dark Dark elevation, as
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: far as the uh, the theme behind the show. And
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I think that they're going to do it in one spot.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: In other words, they're not going to do it with
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: dynamite or with collision. They're going to tape it separately,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: but it's going to take place and bring Sample Daily's
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Place every week or e Sports Stadium in Arlington, Baby,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: both go back and forth. This will keep production costs down.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: You don't have to keep going back and forth, and
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: you could actually tape it and have time to edit
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: it like they did with Dark and make it more seamless.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. And yeah, and it kind
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: of be like bringing back regional wrestling and this is going.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: This would be a show to get some of the
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: men and women in aw and even rig of Honor,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: more matches, more exposure so that they can get better.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: It's as simple as that.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: I agree with that I missed Dark, I really do.
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: I think Dark was fun. It was you know, lighthearted.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: Of course, the commentary team was excellent and they just
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: didn't care. They are just doing their thing, and that's
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: what I think needs to be brought back. Not really
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: so corporate, not really so clean, just fun, fun time.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: And an esport Arena was great. Just small little areas,
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: like a month at a time, go there because that
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: really worked at Esports Arena. I don't know about Daily's
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: places that can be used, but just fun, fun times,
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: you know. Impact Going was notorious for being crazy back
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: in the day because it was a place to be
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: and you knew where it was.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: M Yeah, and one thing I really liked about Dark
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: and being on YouTube was just you never felt like
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: you had to watch it live.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: It was very easy to watch it the next day.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: It was right.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: You know, YouTube puts it in your face, they're like, oh,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: you haven't watched this yet. You watched it last week.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Do you want to watch it on Thursday or Friday?
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: And probably for international audiences that you know, we're in
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: the Middle East, people in India, are people in the
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: UK like who are on different time zones, it's probably
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: an easy way to just kind of get a little
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: bit of aw flavor once in a while, get them
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: hooked mm hmm. And then one thing that I want
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: to mention is I do like the idea of them
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: not necessarily being exclusive with Warner Brothers Discovery, the idea
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: of them having all their content wrapped up on TNT
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: and TBS, where if you read like the Hollywood Reporter
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: and these things talking about the health of WBD as
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: a company, like their TV business, and they've lost the
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: NBA now is struggling and losing a lot of money,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of debt wrapped up in their
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: TV channels specifically not so much HBO Max and their movies,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: but you know, there could be a situation where they're
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: selling off their TV channels or things of that nature.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: So having aw's future wrapped up in that kind of
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: makes me a little bit worried. And I think if
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: they can control their own future and have some other
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: avenues where their shows are, it makes me a little
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: more confident.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I get what you're saying. I really do it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting, and I think that we're
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: going to hear about this student rather than later. I
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: really do so. It's going to be interesting because there's
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: so much movement. I mean, look at WWE. Spec Out
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: is not going to be on on Fox anymore. Where
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: is it going? I don't even know.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, Andra is Netflix.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Right Monday, well, starting October seventh, Monday Night, Raw is
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: going from three hours and two hours, and it's going
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: to be on USA and then beginning of the year
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: it's going to Netflix. Now we don't know whether it's
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: going to be two or three hours then, but look,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: you've got there's no longer wrestling. It to be on Fox,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: that's for sure. Fox is going to want wrestling. What
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: better place to go than AW. So that is a possibility,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: but it's just it's rumors right now. There's nothing confirmed
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: that I know now since we've been talking about it,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: it may have been confirmed somehow by Fox or something.
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: I've heard from superstars within the company that it's f
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: s one show.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Right and it's gonna be one hour long. But I
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: don't want to you can get into that, you know,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: because you know, because it really is, it's rumors, it's
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: you know, and yeah, I've heard the same thing about
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: people talking in the locker room or whatever, backstage or whatever.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: You know how many times I've seen backstage mentioned on
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: stuff that has started out to be one hundred false.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: So not only in AW but at WWE and TNA
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and Rig of Honor or whatever. You know. It's just look,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I believe it when I see it, and I think
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: we're here, and I think we will hear something in
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the next week or two about it more, you know,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: nailed down.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I have a spicy idea. So when is it AW
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Shockwave with raw going to Netflix? When's if it's a
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Monday night wrestling show for eight years old?
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Very well could be.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Because you know, are people going to watch Netflix Monday
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: night Raw on Mondays? Like people aren't usually watching Netflix live, right.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: And there's a lot of people that won't have Netflix,
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: because the way Netflix.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, Netflix goes up every yes day, seems like once.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: You get a subscription, it may be fifteen dollars this
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: month and next month it's thirty five, and you're sitting
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: there going, what the hell? So I thought that was
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: kind of funny when WWE announced that they're going to
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: Netflix for wrong, I'm thinking, I don't know Netflix has
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: that kind of a backing that they're going to get
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: the number of people they think they're going to get.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: But Yain, it's all about the library. And you know,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I don't really know as WWE staying on Peacock as
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: well for the pls. I don't even know. So, but
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: you know, one thing that's proving is that WWE is
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: not worried about ratings as far as the numbers or
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: dot WWE endeavor, I guess is the best way to
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: put it. Now, because they're the ones that own WWE. Now,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I think it's buddy that ww is airing that Vince
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: mcmand documentary and they're on Netflix, and Netflix has taken
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: over whatever. I don't want to talk about WWE anymore.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: What I do want to talk about is AW and
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: let's just talk briefly about the the Dynamite card, because
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: tomorrow night we already talked about what happened with John
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Moxley and the BCC. Well, tomorrow night, John Moxley's coming
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: to make a statement. I guess it's just that we're
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: going to hear from John Moxley tomorrow night. Does anybody
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: have any idea what he what you would expect for
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: him to say, or what do you want him to
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: say a little concerned? You're concerned?
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: I mean for Darby Allen. I think Moxley wants his
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: The speculation is that Moxley wants somehow to get Darby
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: shot at Grand Slam and do damage to Brian and
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: and take his belt.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: That whole whole thing surprised me. It's it's interesting to
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: see where the I call him the Bastard Combat Club
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: now and to see where they're going to go. Uh
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: and and this is gonna be interesting. But the other
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: but there's the bother batches that interest me to that
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: I think we need to talk about. But it should
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: be a good card. But Darby hasn't talked to him,
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: has he seen them? I didn't see anything at the
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: pay per view, did they come in contact. It's been
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: like two or three weeks.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Darby wasn't didn't have a thing to do at all
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: with the all out pay per view. There's no VIC yet,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: there's nothing.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: There's also a rumor that John Moxley wants Darby to
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: join them, So, I mean, I've seen both things. I
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: kind of I'm kind of going towards like MK said
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: that he wants that title shot. I think that would
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: be a great last match for Brian.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: If they went that route.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Which is Darby and danielsoner.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Danielson and Moxley. I think that would be a really good.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: Match to end Brian's career if that's what they want
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: to do. I think that would be probably one of
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: the better matches that he could have in AW without
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: bringing somebody in from the outside or you know.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, he.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: Could go up against Okada or pak or Osprey again.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: But have we even seen Moxley versus Danielson. I think
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: we saw it once.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, right what the BCC was for. Yeah, So
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: that means I think the last time they actually had
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: a match, right.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: So that could be a very interesting route for them
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: to go. It's I guess it's gonna be what happened?
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: When? When is Derby coming back? Are they I don't
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: know if they've kept him.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Out because of they want to play off an injury
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: from all In or if it's just he hasn't been
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: on the show.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they're they're doing a Cafe bidgeriagle
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: with him. One thing that I will say, uh, this
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: could be part of the conversation as well. Look where
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: does John Moxley Tomorrow night? There's probably going to be
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: the BCC such as it is with them. You may
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: also see Danielson, you may see Darby, you may see
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: wheel Er Yuda, who for all ten purposes, doesn't seem
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: to me like he's part of the BCC anymore. The
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: other thing that I want to bring up is that
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: also tomorrow night they're having a tag team casino goblin match.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: What would be interesting is if, oh, I don't know,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: John Moxley and Claudio Castigioli were entered into that. And
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: what about would it be something if Darby Allen and
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know, uh, Danielson or maybe Wheeler Uda is
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Darby Allen's partner. We're we're a tag team, you know?
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: In this I mean this that's something that I'm I'd
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: like to see that, to be honest with you, because
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: we know we're gonna get Kyle O'Reilly at Orange Cassidy,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna get Roderick Strong and somebody I don't
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: say that name. Uh. They suck and they will always.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: I think is a good chance they win. They're they're
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: on a hot streak right now.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they beat two cockroaches and now they got you
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: gotta uh uh where she called it a valet. Now
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: they were moving up in the world. Man, Yeah, that's
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: a terrible valet they have.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: But I can I can see the Young Bucks beating
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: them next week and the week after.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: After they get their title shot.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna see the Young Bucks because
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Dick Jackson's injured.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Oh really, Yeah, that's one of the.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Things he got. Remember I think it was on Collision maybe, yeah,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I think it was on Collision where Claudia Casting only
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: had Nick Jackson in when they had that eight man
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: All Star match. Ye, Claudio CASTI only had the had
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Dick Jackson in the spin and and Wheeler you to
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: hit Nick Jackson with the drop kick at the end
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: of the spin. That hurt Nick Jackson's shoulder, So I've
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: got to give credit where credit was due. While it
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: wasn't my favorite match in the paper. You the tag
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: team match, uh for between the Young Bucks and Wheeler.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: You to Claudio CASTI only Nick Jackson was wrestling injured,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and you can clear if you will go back and
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: look at it, you could clearly see that he was
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: favoring his shoulder the entire match, and uh Andy power through.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: So I think they're gonna give him some time off.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: So I don't think you're going to see the Young
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Bucks in the ring.
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: Doing much, probably not too Grand Slam correct.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Grand Slam, Yeah, which is the twenty fifth. Yeah, I would.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I would definitely think that they're going to get a
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks off here so he could heal heel
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: up a little bit.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Uh Speaking of the BCC, is Eddie Kingston as he
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: do back anytime soon? I feel like he out play
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: a role in this.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: May twenty twenty five is the last time heard. Okay,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: so we've got another six or seven months. It's back,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: thank god.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: The one thing that no one's mentioned yet with the BCC.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: Is this a Moxley thing or could this lead to.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: An addition to the ae W roster of one McMahon.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I've heard that that could very well be.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I've even heard McMahon tossed around in the Shockwave discussion.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: I got a theory on that.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: This is exactly if you remember back then, if you
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: were watching it back then, when w CW finally came
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: into WWE, you.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Had one eight one day.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: WWE side with w CW and that was stone colding.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: So why not if they were to do and they've
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: been doing a lot of things that have been done before,
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: But again, this is wrestling. There's only so much you
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: can do without repeating stuff in the past. The difference
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: between AW and other places is AW actually does things
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: the right way. Maybe they're leading up to if you
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: notice everybody that's back with Moxley or ex WWE guys,
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: that's why you're just not there. That's why I kind
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: of doubt that Derby's going to be asked to be
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: on there. It would be perfect if you set Brian
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: Danielson up as the the stone cold Steve Austin character
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: for the a W Crew against the WWE invasion, which
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: would then lead to the rumors of McMahon coming in.
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: That's a little bar that's for me.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I don't like that one. Sorry, I don't.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: It's setting it up for that, I don't. I don't
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: see Shan McMahon being an on screen character more than
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: a GM. I don't think anyone particularly wants that. But
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: it's funny to me that you to is it? It's
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: still isn't He tagged King Trios with with uh yeah, he.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Is damn happy.
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: By him and make him do matches.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: I think Wheeler will be with them for a little
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: bit at least. Maybe he'll break away, but I think
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: it'll be gradual.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: One thing that I wanted to bring up though, uh sorry, okay.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: One thing I want to bring up is going back
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: to all out when when Danielson was molested by the BCC. Remember,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Christian Cage came out, and it would have been stupid
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: for Christian Cage not to come out because he does
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: have the contract that he can sign at any time
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: and he could have gone right after Brian Danielson, And
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: of course the BCC stopped Christian Cage from doing that.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: But as soon as Christian Cage turn around and left,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: they beat the living hell out of out of Danielson.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: So don't forget that Christian Cage is still in the
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: picture here m hm with Danielson, So like tomorrow night,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: if Danielsen does confront the BCC or even participates in
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: that tag team match, Christian catch come out at any
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: time and try to get that contract. So there's always
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: gonna So that's something good I liked. I liked the
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: fact that they brought Christian Cage out in a lot.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to throw that out there.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: It was a nice word, but I don't know where
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: he could honestly calsen. That's a good point because eventually
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: they're gonna have to have a match, And granted Lamb
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: is booked up with Darby, so where does he he
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: fit and line? You know, he always has these matches
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: with new champions, so it's no joke. I don't see
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: him winning at all, so we'll see what'll happened with that.
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: But it's not I don't want Christian Cage to win
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: because he's such a bright star he didn't need it.
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: But a Danielson versus Christian Cage match does interest me
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: because I think it's only happened once in aw as well.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I want to move on a little bit
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: here because I do want to talk about the other
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: two segments in in the Dynamite tomorrow night, because it's
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: only got three segments or three matches announced, or three
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: segments announced actually because the Mocksley thing is not a
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: match per se, although may very well be some violence involved.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: On the all out pre show, we saw Mariah May
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: come out to have her second attempt at having her
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: World Championship celebration, but once again she said that I
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Am not going to do it here in Chicago with
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: the state in her voice. But also remember that sky
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Blue made an appearance and bless her, hertchie took a
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: bump and Queen Amanada came out to stand up for
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: So now tomorrow night we're going to see Queen Amanada
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: versus Mariah May. But I don't think anybody really expects
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Queen Amanada to defeat Mariah May. She's basically being thrown
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: to the champion for a good match, but it's it
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: will pretty good match. However, it does open up some
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: interesting story ideas because we all know that Queen Amanada
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: and sky Blue are good friends. Who else's friends? With
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: sky Blue is Julia Hart, who you know is by accounts,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: should be very close, if not already ready to come
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: back from her shoulder injury. So we.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: That she didn't. I think that I thought that it
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be the wrong time to do it. I think
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: on a Dynamite collision is where she should do it,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: specifically on collision. But I would hope that tomorrow night
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: on Dynamite that Julia Hart shows up, and uh yeah,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I would love to see blonde on blonde action with
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Julia Hart Mariah A because I think that would be
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: a really good way of getting Julia Hart back. The
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: only thing that bothers me about Julia Hart Mariah May
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: is that I really think that Julia Hart sh meant
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: going after Mercedes Monet get for the TBS Championship. Because
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: again I said this before and I'll say it again.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I believe that Mercedes Monet the intention all along was
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: from Mercedes Mone to that championship belt off of Julia Hart.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: And we know that Tony Khan is stubborn and when
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: something happens that prevents him to do what he wants,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: he does it at the first opportunity. Anyway, so I
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: think we will see Julia Hart me Mercedes monego at
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: it very soon. But I'm just thinking that this is
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: perfect opportunity for Julia Hart to come and confront Mariah
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: May again. I don't expect Julia Hart to beat Mariah May,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: but I mean we could see Julia Hart and Queen
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Aminada against Mariah May and Mina Shirakawa. You know, I
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: don't know, like a Grand Slam or something like that.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: It doesn't even have to be a Mariah May and
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Julia Hart one on one match. It could be leading
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: up to something, you know what I mean. So I'm interested,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: do you guys think? I mean, yeah, Mariah Man Queenominada.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: But is there going to be more.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: To it than that Tony Storm. I think Tony's gonna
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: make an appearance, come out and get involved in that match.
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: I just I think she needs to stay out longer.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: I don't know who. I think it would be great
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: for do Lea Heart, but at some point they got
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: to start setting up her next, her next feud, and
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: I don't know who it's gonna be. You know, I'd
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: be for Rosa, I would be for Deanna Parrazzo or
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: or something like that. But they got to start doing
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: something and I'm running out of face, and I put
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: it with.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna throw all dame out there for you,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Marina Shaffir House, the black Person is the Blackpool Comba Club.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: I like that?
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I I agree. I think Tony. I feel
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: like Tony Storm will be Mariah May's next opponent at
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: whatever pay per view that's coming up. I guess the
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Wreussell dream. And I really like the idea of Mercedes
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Monette versus Julia Hart if they're building towards that, and
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: especially we talked about Mercedes Moneue not being able to
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: do her finish her very well. I feel like she
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: could do it very well to Julia Hart because.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: She's already has mm hmm.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: And I think they match up well. Yeah, I would.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: I would be way more interested in that match than
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: then Mariah May.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Versus Julia Hart. That kind of feels like a weird
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: fit to me.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think that when would Julia coming off
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: of her foulder injury. I think that they're going to
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: get her in a tag feud. First, Tumi Blue was
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: still it was healthy that it would be sky Blue,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: But I just think the tech because hey, you maybe
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: have Julia Hart and whoever against TJ. You know, I mean,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: it could be anything. It could really could, But I
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: I Julia Hart is a former champion. She lost her
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: belt obviously because of injury, and they had to call
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: an audible and do it against Willow Nightingale.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is is that Julia
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Hart lost her title belt, but she still has her
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: rematch because that's what aw does. They give title losers
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: a rematch clause. So Julia Hart has it, so there
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: you go. Although christat Lander didn't get hers go figure.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say they sometimes give they they don't
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: always do that. It just depends on if it's the story.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: And I that's just like you know that that Danielson
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: and Swerve we're going to have another match somewhere, probably
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: as Dream since it's in their hometown.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if Danielson is going to give
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: that title that that title up before.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Then don't forget Darby's also from that town.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: From that Yeah, that's why I'm I'm kind of thinking
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: that that Grand Slam is where Tarby's Darby supposed to
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: have his title match, right, which is the end of
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: this month, and then Wressell Dream is next month.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking that something's going to happen at Grant.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: I think that Max might come out and cause a
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: no contest for Darby, which would then give you a
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: fatal three way at the Wrestle Dream between Danielson and
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: Swerve and Darby.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that happening.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: That would be I think that would be an amazing
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: freaking match.
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: To be honest, do you guys think that Darby's ready
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: for a world championship?
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: I think ready?
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, Brian Danison himself has beat people in
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: in triple threat matches and and one, and I think
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: that'd be a great place to put Darby over would
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: be in a triple threat match.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Look the way I look at it is that Eddie
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Kingseon could hold three belts for Pentago could hold three belts,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, and so Darby definitely could hold belt. You know,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I think everybody in the roster is capable of running
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: with the belt.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: But for me, Derby, Yeah, sorry, Derby is ready to
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: be world champion. But I would like to see a
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: long term story, like months and months of him chasing
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: that belt, so when he does get it, that moment
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: is a big, big moment.
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: I'd like to see. Yeah, a that's why go ahead?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, when do you guys say go ahead?
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: That shut up, we weren't going ahead.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: I could actually see that triple thread hat and then
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: have possibly Danielson can retain the belt there, but set up.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: A long term, year long.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: Battle between Swerve and Darby for that number one spot
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: to face off in the next year's wrestle dream.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: For a title shot. I just I don't know. It
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: just seems like that they could. Those two could do.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: A lot of good things together, I think to.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: The go ahead man, Okay.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: Here's my deal. I don't think Danielson wants a super
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: long title reign, but whoever does it is gonna have
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: to get the nod and be the guy. Because he
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: said once he loses, he's done. So whoever gets it's
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: gonna get the rub and it's gonna and in my opinion,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: needs to be a young guy who finally takes him out.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: But it has to be a good story, and I
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: think it needs to be at one of the biggest
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: pay per views. I don't know who I left it
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: to be Derby because I think Darby is great, but
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: I don't see anybody else who's really ready at this point.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well from all tend purposes, I believe they've The
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: rumor going around is Swerve and MJF are off TV
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: for a while, giving them a break. I don't think.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: What he's either doing a movie or a TV show again.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: That was why they said that he was going to
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: be having time off.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't believe that m JF was one
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: field anyway. Uh, I swear deserves some time off because
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: he's been working as you know what off so anyway,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: and everybody needs a rest except for Orange Cassidy because
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: god knows we can't have a week without two warge Cassidy.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: Matches great that he's in the PWI list.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, number two.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, number two.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: That list is absolutely no dog shit.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: I know, I think it's cool that he was on there.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I understand it's a k fabe list in
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: the most part, but it is absolutely horseship and I'm
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: not putting down any WWE or do Japan wrestlers on
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: that list. I'm specifically talking about a w That list
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: is horseshit for I mean, just look at the aw
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: wrestlers or where they're ranked on that list. It's atrocious.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: It is absolute dog shit. Anyway, speaking of dog shit,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about the outrunners in this
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: next part. I want to talk about who do we
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  Speaker 1: think is going to be they are? Who who do
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  Speaker 1: we think is going to be in the in the
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  Speaker 1: Casino Gauntlet tag team match? And who do you want
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  Speaker 1: to win to face the Young Bucks? Say at I
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: don't know, Grand Slam.
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  Speaker 6: I don't I think the tag division is so weak
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  Speaker 6: right now that I don't know anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's weird because the BCC their tag team
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  Speaker 1: was Wheeler Yuda and Claudio Cascagnoli, right, that was their
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: their big guys. So is Pack and Claudio gonna team up?
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe or maybe John Moxley and Pack, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what what the hell could they possibly do?
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  Speaker 1: Then of course you got the you know, Malachi and
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: and Brodie King. But then you've got Buddy Matthew, who's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: gonna show up for the House of Black. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 6: We'll get there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you're gonna get orange Cassidy and
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  Speaker 1: maybe Mark Brisco or Kyle O'Reilly is his partner. There
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  Speaker 1: are so many non there are so many trios that
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  Speaker 1: are tag teams in it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, top Flight, the guns.
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  Speaker 1: On the top, top Light the guns, yeah, the.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'd really like to see f t R
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: of course. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's just grizzled Young Vets.
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  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, XM has been really good.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: They've only been on Collision and and Bring of Honor,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, but I think they've been really good.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: They're solid in my opinion. That's their next paper view, Yeah, challenges.
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  Speaker 1: I think that would be a I think it would
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  Speaker 1: be a mistake.
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  Speaker 2: I really to be the outrunner. I feel I feel
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  Speaker 2: like it's their time. I think the young Bucks will
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: put on a good match.
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  Speaker 3: It'll make it seem like the outrunners will win, and
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: then they'll crush everyone's dreams.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: That's uh al Alex machine guns but poison.
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad you said it because I was being quiet
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: because I wanted to say the same thing and couldn't.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: I tried to Gilson. Did it not mean.
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  Speaker 1: Grizzled John Vets will not win it because they haven't
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: been a run. There's just too many AW fans that
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: are not familiar with them. Yeah, you know, and well.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: The same could be safe for x M x M two.
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  Speaker 5: They've been on r OH more than anything else, so
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  Speaker 5: unless you you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, so, I'm thinking I just God, don't let it
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  Speaker 4: be FDR again. That's the only one I don't care
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: that wins, because I've got enough the FDR in the box.
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  Speaker 1: Well you don't want to brought them up Wheah.
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  Speaker 4: No, somebody else said them before me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did say it before, but yeah, I know,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see them win. It's just too Yeah,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: everyone should do different things.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Crowd doog day, copy paste repeat.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I also think you know, MotorCity machine Guns.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: I know they've been rumored to be going to WWE,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: but I don't think they've showed up there yet. And
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: rumors are made to be broken, it seems, And this
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: seems like a good opportunity to debut someone as well.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: So Hologram could be teamed up with somebody.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: They they meshed well together at an event here lately.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: I know when it was, but yeah, titles with Dustin So.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know who else. I mean, of course,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: probably probably the uh UN disputed Kingdom.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, god, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: That just makes kelt unhappy.
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  Speaker 4: Geez.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many crap tag teams in aw really is.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: Yes, there are. I mean it's the upper tier and
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: the lower tier are so far apart exactly.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: There's a chasm. I mean you look at like f
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: t R. Yeah, you know, it could you're on the
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: verge of FTR getting boring because they're feuding with the
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: same people over and over again. But f TR the acclaimed,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: maybe the House of black maybe the Blackpool Combat Club.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, you know, where else can you go
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: because there's then you go down to top flight and
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: there's a chasm there, you know, and don't forget you
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: may have the learning tree in there with Big Bill
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: and the worst bounty hunter in the planet, you know,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: with the bounty hunter. You know, that's like calling me
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: the sex God. No we're not anyway. So yeah, well
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot to talk about tomorrow because
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of fallout from
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: all out tomorrow.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Last thing I want to mention one more thing. I've
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: been an Adam Page hater for a long time, and
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: after the end of their match that they had with yeah,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: the violence, but just his acting at the end of
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: that match and all out with him like screaming and
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: him almost going back to the ring and stuff. I
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: just felt like that, like, Adam Page is one of
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: the best wrestlers in the world right now, easily in
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: my opinion, And I wouldn't have said that three months ago.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: He's definitely got the character down, that's for sure, because
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: he looks pissed off all.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: The time, and he's so different than he was before.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: He used to be like a guy who kind of
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: seemed unsure of himself, and now he's just a different
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: person entirely.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: He looks like a final boss, Like he comes to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: the ring. You know. It reminds me when Stone Cole
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: came in the ring, not with a big pot, but
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: just you knew, you knew shit was about to go down.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's a good point.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: And like, what do they do with him now? Now,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: this version of Adam Page, Like it's so hard for
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: me to picture who who he feuds with and how
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: you how you have him be his character going forward?
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: What direction they go with? So I'm hoping we see
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: him tomorrow night in some form, just to get an
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: idea of what they're doing with him, because that's one
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: of the things I'm probably most interested in now going forward.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: He's going to be John Moxley's partner in the tag teams.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be an indread like the two man Power
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Trip Moxley and Evil Adam Page.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: If he joins, there'll.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Be partners and then they'll end up betraying each other
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: and to have a h a bull rope match Cincinnati Dynasty. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati death match in Dynasty or whatever. All right, but anyway,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: we are going to call tonight and we will be
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: back tomorrow night for all EAT talk after Dynamite, and I,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: as I said, I think Dynamite is gonna have a
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: lot to talk about. We're gonna have a lot to
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: talk about tomorrow. It's gonna be an interesting show, So
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: we'll see. Anyway. Forty a w Fan podcast team.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: This is Kelson, This is Alex.
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  Speaker 1: Good night, everybody,