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Tuesday 3pm hour 06/09/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Well, Heidi Ho, 306 on a gorgeous-looking Tuesday afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: It's June 9th.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Tuesday afternoon, and it is a little bit
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  Speaker 1: hot and humid out there today. 85 degrees, and so welcome,
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  Speaker 1: one and all. NewsRadio 570 WKBN with you till Guardians
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  Speaker 1: pregame tonight at 6 o'clock. All right, they'll be taking
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  Speaker 1: on the Yankees tonight. All right, that'll be at 6, pregame, 6.30,
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  Speaker 1: first pitch. News Radio 570. So keep that in mind. Well,
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  Speaker 1: things are heating up. Trump vows response after claiming Iran
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  Speaker 1: shot down U.S. Apache helicopter over the straits. And there was.
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  Speaker 2: No one.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have any deaths involved in that. The people
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  Speaker 1: got out of the Apache okay. That is the good
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  Speaker 1: news about that. But Trump says... Iran is responsible for
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  Speaker 1: shooting down this Apache helicopter, says the U.S. must respond.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know what that means. We shall see. Somewhere out
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  Speaker 1: there is Rich, the pharmacist.
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  Speaker 3: Hello. Hey, Ron. How are you this evening?
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  Speaker 2: I am well.
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  Speaker 3: Or afternoon, I guess. I'm a little ahead of myself.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. Fire away, Richard.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things I was thinking about over the
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  Speaker 3: weekend that I think we don't pay enough attention to
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  Speaker 3: that's really hurting our society is is just the complete
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  Speaker 3: and total breakdown of parenting, the family, and there's all
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  Speaker 3: it's having on our country. I went to school in Toledo.
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  Speaker 3: I went to the University of Toledo. That's where I
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  Speaker 3: got my pharmacy degree. Toledo is a nice town, kind
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  Speaker 3: of similar to Youngstown, a little bigger, obviously, but depressed.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of the old industries that were there left.
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  Speaker 3: The glass industry went downhill. I think the Jeep factory
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  Speaker 3: up there is a fraction of what it used to be.
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  Speaker 3: You know, so very similar demographically and economically, Democrat working town.
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  Speaker 3: And you saw that kid at the old West End
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  Speaker 3: Festival down there, and they just arrested, I think they
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  Speaker 3: said he was an 18-year-old for questioning today, involved in that.
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  Speaker 3: He went and shot 12 people, I think, and two
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  Speaker 3: of them ended up dying, from what I understand. You
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  Speaker 3: look at that, you look at this kid, they just announced,
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  Speaker 3: when I was listening to Taylor and the Clay and Buck,
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  Speaker 3: that Carmelo Anthony, they're going to announce the verdict there
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  Speaker 3: because that kid just thought, you know, when he was
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  Speaker 3: told to leave, it was okay to stab somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And I just, how do we, can we fix it?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how do you reverse the course that we're on?
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  Speaker 3: Because it's a major problem. I was talking to a teacher.
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  Speaker 3: School just, you know, school just got out for most
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  Speaker 3: kids last week. Teacher, good school district. I think in
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  Speaker 3: his class, I think he had somewhere around probably 80,
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  Speaker 3: 90 kids in the grade level that this guy teaches.
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  Speaker 3: And I think he had like 13 or 14 kids
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  Speaker 3: that flunked the entire year, not just in nine weeks,
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  Speaker 3: the entire year. But I'm pretty sure he told me
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  Speaker 3: that almost all of them will get advanced because you
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  Speaker 3: can't hold these kids back anymore unless the parents agree
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  Speaker 3: to it. Most of the parents won't agree to it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, how do you advance somebody if they didn't learn
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  Speaker 1: the material? I mean, let's be realistic for a second.
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  Speaker 1: We start with there is a problem right there. Because
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  Speaker 1: if you don't have it mastered, how can you go
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  Speaker 1: to the next level when you don't understand the level
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  Speaker 1: below that? It just gets harder and worse. It reminds
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  Speaker 1: me of like. You mentioned the University of Toledo. Like
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  Speaker 1: when I was in college, it was, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: with you, modern university mathematics, where they said, you have
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  Speaker 1: got to know this part of the formula to be
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  Speaker 1: able to get to the answer to get to the
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  Speaker 1: rest of it.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, you have to memorize stuff. You follow
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: In other words, if you don't know what's happening, if
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  Speaker 1: you can't pass ninth grade, you think 10th is going
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  Speaker 1: to be easier or 11th is going to be easier?
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  Speaker 1: They're building blocks to the next one.
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  Speaker 3: But they don't care. They just, the parents don't care.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of them are more worried about what, you know,
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  Speaker 3: what are people going to think if my child's held back?
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  Speaker 3: You're going to think he's stupid and, you know, you shouldn't,
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  Speaker 3: you know. They're more worried about the social ramifications than
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  Speaker 3: they are the long-term economic ramifications of that person not
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  Speaker 3: having learned what they should have learned.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I hate to use the term, but can't you say, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I guess your kid is stupid.
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  Speaker 2: They haven't.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds cold-blooded, but let me put it this way
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  Speaker 1: to you, Rich. Just bear with me. They don't want
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  Speaker 1: them to think their kid's stupid. Well, their kid is stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Have you made any effort to tutor your child to
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  Speaker 1: see that they do their homework to put the effort
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  Speaker 1: in to make your kid successful?
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  Speaker 2: I just use this example.
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  Speaker 1: When our kids were young and they got stuck on something,
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  Speaker 1: I remember my wife saying that she took them, and
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  Speaker 1: it was in mass, she took them to Sylvan Learning Center.
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  Speaker 2: I remember that.
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  Speaker 1: And she took them there, and they– taught them really
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  Speaker 1: fast what they were stuck on.
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  Speaker 2: You follow me? And that was the end of it.
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  Speaker 2: Then there wasn't any further problems.
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  Speaker 1: But if she didn't address the step when you get
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  Speaker 1: into this advanced math that they didn't understand then, then
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  Speaker 1: the next level, you wouldn't understand it at all.
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  Speaker 3: So..
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  Speaker 1: As a parent, you have to be involved in your
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  Speaker 1: child's education. I mean, that's what I'm trying to say.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what your feelings are or if you're
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  Speaker 1: worried about the image of it. What are you doing
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  Speaker 1: to make your child, make it easier on your child
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  Speaker 1: and make him a success? Are you doing anything?
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  Speaker 3: I think in a lot of instances, no. And if
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  Speaker 3: you talk to teachers, if you sit there and talk
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  Speaker 3: to a lot of the teachers that have to deal
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  Speaker 3: with kids today, the lack of parental involvement, discipline... um,
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  Speaker 3: you know, support of the teacher and what they're trying
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  Speaker 3: to do is just alarming. And it's not a small
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  Speaker 3: fraction of the parents out there anymore. It's a growing
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  Speaker 3: and increasingly larger fraction of the parents, probably 30, 40%
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  Speaker 3: are just, they created children, but they don't seem to
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  Speaker 3: have much interest in raising those children or making sure
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  Speaker 3: that those children succeed, you know, get to adulthood and
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  Speaker 3: are successful adults. And a lot of it's socioeconomic.
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  Speaker 4: I don't buy that.
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  Speaker 1: That bothers me, because just because you're poor doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: you're dumb.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that it's socioeconomic.
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  Speaker 3: What I was saying is if you look at the
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  Speaker 3: demographic areas where income is lower, I don't care whether
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  Speaker 3: you're in the cities, the big cities, or whether you
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  Speaker 3: go to Appalachian America, you find pretty much the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: So it's not really a race thing. There's a definite
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  Speaker 3: socioeconomic factor involved. But it's just those parents, for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 3: many of them don't seem to be interested in putting
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  Speaker 3: the effort and time that's required into successfully raising children.
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  Speaker 2: Well, haven't you just identified the problem?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, haven't you just spoken to the problem?
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  Speaker 2: Isn't the problem the parents?
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  Speaker 1: If you show me a kid that isn't doing their
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  Speaker 1: best in school, I go back to say, what role
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  Speaker 1: are the parents playing? Are they shutting the television off?
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  Speaker 1: Are they getting them help? Are they seeing that they
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  Speaker 1: do their homework? Do they care about education? And if
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  Speaker 1: the answer is no, then that's why the kid has
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  Speaker 1: a problem. I mean, and wouldn't you say the same
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  Speaker 1: thing applies if you have a kid that doesn't know
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  Speaker 1: right from wrong or how to behave? Isn't that the issue?
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  Speaker 1: If your kid doesn't know how to behave, wouldn't you say, well,
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  Speaker 1: that parent isn't disciplining that child? And if you're not
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  Speaker 1: doing that early on, can you imagine what they'll be
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  Speaker 1: like as a teenager?
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's a big issue. And I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there's going to be exceptions, obviously. You can have parents
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  Speaker 3: that do care, but the kid has learning disabilities and
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  Speaker 3: struggles like that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about that, Bill. I'm just talking about regular.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that's the majority of the problem here.
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  Speaker 3: I just think for some reason in our country, people
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  Speaker 3: have become so wrapped up in themselves that they create children.
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  Speaker 3: They just don't want to put the time and effort
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  Speaker 3: into raising them. It's really sad. And if you talk
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  Speaker 3: to teachers, I mean, everybody likes to blame teachers for
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  Speaker 3: what's wrong in the school system. And almost every teacher
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  Speaker 3: I know, and there's obviously exceptions, every profession has their
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  Speaker 3: people that they'd rather not have. But the vast majority,
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  Speaker 3: I'd say 90%, 95% of the teachers out there just
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  Speaker 3: want to go to work, do a good job, hopefully
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  Speaker 3: help the kids, get them on their way, and get going.
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  Speaker 3: But when they turn to the parents, when they identify
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  Speaker 3: issues and turn to the parents, they just, they increasingly,
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  Speaker 3: more and more parents don't want to support the teacher,
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  Speaker 3: don't want to take the responsibility. I know a superintendent who,
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  Speaker 3: when he was a principal, had a meeting with parents.
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  Speaker 3: He told me this story. And he said the kid
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  Speaker 3: was academically really struggling and failing. So they were going
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  Speaker 3: to talk to him about recommending private tutoring. And the
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  Speaker 3: father came in, and he's talking to me about this
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  Speaker 3: great stereo system he bought. You know, I just bought
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  Speaker 3: this great stereo and all this, but, you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: hundreds and hundreds of dollars. So they get down to
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  Speaker 3: brass tacks and start talking about his son's issues and problems.
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  Speaker 3: And they said, you know, we really think you should
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  Speaker 3: consider private tutoring, something like a Sylvan-type scenario that you used.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, well, I can't afford that. But he
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  Speaker 3: could afford to go out and buy the couple hundred
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  Speaker 3: dollar stereo system that he was just bragging about. And
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  Speaker 3: I think that's an increasingly big issue in our society.
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  Speaker 3: So many people are self-absorbed and think of themselves first
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  Speaker 3: instead of making sacrifices.
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  Speaker 5: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: I think we grew up in a different era where
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  Speaker 3: most parents... It was not uncommon for a lot of
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  Speaker 3: fathers to work two jobs to help the family out
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  Speaker 3: and put groceries on the table and have a little
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  Speaker 3: extra maybe to take a vacation, things like that. It's
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  Speaker 3: hard to get people even to show up and do
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  Speaker 3: a job. Because you can sit at home, you can
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  Speaker 3: get the government to pay you and take care of
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  Speaker 3: you and provide you with all the social safety hammock
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  Speaker 3: that they've created. Instead of a safety net, you just
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  Speaker 3: lay down and you can just go from there. And
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  Speaker 3: I just, increasingly, I see it, and I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if you look in the inner cities, there's definitely an
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  Speaker 3: issue with the breakdown of the African-American family. Because increasingly,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these kids that perpetrate this, you see
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  Speaker 3: these gangs that are going around in these cities where
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  Speaker 3: they're having these takeovers of areas and restaurants and stuff
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  Speaker 3: like that. And in the cities, it's an issue, and
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  Speaker 3: it's unfortunately overwhelmingly more African-American kids. I'm not saying white
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  Speaker 3: kids don't do bad things either, but when you look,
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  Speaker 3: when your eyes don't lie, when you put on the news,
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  Speaker 3: that's the issue. And I think a lot of that
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  Speaker 3: has to do with the fact that in the African-American community,
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  Speaker 3: you're down to, I think, 75% or 80% single-parent households.
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  Speaker 3: where there's no fathers involved. I read an article over
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  Speaker 3: the weekend about that. I think the Hispanic family is
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  Speaker 3: down to somewhere around 55%, and the white family is
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  Speaker 3: down to 35%, where there is no father figure. And
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  Speaker 3: you can say, well, kids can do fine without a father,
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  Speaker 3: and they can. We all know people that have succeeded
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  Speaker 3: that way, and women that have raised kids without having
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  Speaker 3: a husband present. And there's a lot of times where
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  Speaker 3: maybe the husband was abusive and needed to go. That's fine.
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  Speaker 3: But increasingly, I think the breakdown of the family is
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  Speaker 3: a major, major issue in this country, and I don't
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  Speaker 3: see a way you can easily address that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't either, because I don't know the government can
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  Speaker 1: solve all the problems. I just don't think that it's
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  Speaker 1: the role of government in this. Unfortunately, they've got to
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  Speaker 1: deal with the problem. You have to deal with the
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  Speaker 1: problem as far as the police have to deal with
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  Speaker 1: it or the court system has to deal with it.
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  Speaker 2: But quite frankly, the government is getting.
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  Speaker 1: Too— we' ve.
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  Speaker 2: Wussified the government and punishment, too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's part of the problem as well,
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  Speaker 1: is that we don't have punishment as good as it
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  Speaker 1: probably should be.
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  Speaker 2: Too liberal a punishment.
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  Speaker 3: That, and I mean, we had... My granddaughter's christening was yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: so we went to church and, you know, watched the
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  Speaker 3: baptism and stuff. And I can't really criticize here because
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  Speaker 3: I'm a lapsed Catholic. My wife and I made a
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  Speaker 3: decision due to a certain event that we witnessed at
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  Speaker 3: church a couple years ago that we were just pretty
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  Speaker 3: much done going to church for now. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I can't... I don't want to be the pot calling
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  Speaker 3: the kettle black, but I'm looking around the church thinking,
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  Speaker 3: if you look at the demographics, I would say... 60, 70%
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  Speaker 3: of the people were, you know, my age, late 50s,
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  Speaker 3: early 60s, or older. And you look around town, what
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  Speaker 3: do they close? St. Matthias, St. Brendan's, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you look at all these churches that have closed, there's
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  Speaker 3: hardly any churches left anymore. You know, I'm on the
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  Speaker 3: Catholic side. I mean, I can't speak. Well, even in Boardman.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they closed St. James Episcopal, which I grew
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  Speaker 3: up in Boardman. I mean, that was a very influential church.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of A lot of the leaders in Boardman,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the people that ran the civic organizations
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  Speaker 3: and were presidents of Kiwanis and things like that, went
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  Speaker 3: to that church. That's where a lot of the old
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  Speaker 3: Boardman money went. If you had told me they were
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  Speaker 3: ever going to close it, I'd say, you know, you're crazy.
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  Speaker 3: But it's gone. And I just, as we've seen, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the institutions that have supported this country, the social institutions
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  Speaker 3: that have been the bedrock of our national fabric for
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  Speaker 3: 250 years now, are just disappearing, and it doesn't bode
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  Speaker 3: well for our future. And it bothers me that I
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  Speaker 3: don't think there's, you know, I'd like to hear what
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  Speaker 3: other people have to say, because I just don't see
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  Speaker 3: how we right that ship. And if we don't right
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  Speaker 3: that ship, it's just, we're going to increasingly slide downhill.
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  Speaker 1: I would totally agree with all of that. I would
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  Speaker 1: absolutely agree with that, but I don't think government can
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  Speaker 1: solve all these problems. You can stop incentivizing it. You
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  Speaker 1: can stop by saying there isn't personal responsibility anymore because
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  Speaker 1: we make it too easy for people to not suffer
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  Speaker 1: the ramifications of their decisions. So, I mean, and to
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  Speaker 1: a certain extent, government kind of, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: say encourages it, but doesn't, we're doing away with personal
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  Speaker 1: responsibility when it comes to your particular situation. So, And
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  Speaker 1: the more liberals that get elected and more Democrats, I
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  Speaker 1: think the problem just gets worse. You can see it
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  Speaker 1: right now. We've made it too easy for able-bodied, work-age
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  Speaker 1: people to sit on their ass and do nothing. And
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  Speaker 1: they can have a fairly decent existence. So what does
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  Speaker 1: everyone do? What do the Democrats do? They bitch when
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  Speaker 1: the Republicans say, well, wait a minute. If you're able-bodied, healthy,
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  Speaker 1: and of work age, you shouldn't be getting Medicaid sitting
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  Speaker 1: at home because you don't want to go to work.
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  Speaker 1: You have to get up and go do something. You
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  Speaker 1: have to get a job like everybody else. And what
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  Speaker 1: did the Democrats say? Look at the Republicans. They want
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  Speaker 1: to deny health care to our fellow citizens. No, they
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  Speaker 1: think that you should grow up and be an adult
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  Speaker 1: and get a job and go on and get health
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  Speaker 1: care like everybody else. That's the difference between Republicans and Democrats.
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  Speaker 1: I'll leave you with that. Words of wisdom, Rich. How's
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  Speaker 1: that sound?
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  Speaker 3: Take care, Ron. Enjoy your evening.
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  Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute. Hang on for a second. I
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  Speaker 2: got another question I want to ask you. Hang on.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be right back. 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 1: 325 on a Tuesday afternoon at 84 degrees. Here's what
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, Rich, just outside of all
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  Speaker 1: of that. Trump vows response after claiming Iran shot down U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Apache helicopter over the straits. Now, there weren't any injuries.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they were able to eject, as I understand it.
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  Speaker 1: So now what?
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  Speaker 3: Well, he's going to hit them. I mean, you can't
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  Speaker 3: just let them do it and not respond, I guess.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it goes back to the bigger problem
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  Speaker 3: that I told you last week, week before. The people
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  Speaker 3: that are trying to negotiate a peace over there, there's
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  Speaker 3: people that are radicals but also want to run a
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  Speaker 3: government and not be, you know, four months from now,
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  Speaker 3: a mob takes over and they're hanging from a light
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  Speaker 3: pole in the street. Those people are trying to make
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  Speaker 3: a rational peace. But they don't control the guns. They
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  Speaker 3: don't have their fingers on the triggers. Whoever shot that
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  Speaker 3: down was probably one of the radical nutjobs in the
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  Speaker 3: Iranian Revolutionary Guard, the IRGC, and probably said, oh, Americans
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  Speaker 3: shoot them down. And it's got to drive you. If
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  Speaker 3: you're the people that are trying to make a peace
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  Speaker 3: and trying to run a government, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: you saw, there's been a lot of unrest over there.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of the students are starting to go back
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: on the streets, protest. They're not happy. The vast majority
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: of people over there, I think, would like this to
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: end and try and get back to finding a way
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: to feed their family. Because right now, it's increasingly difficult
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: over there. If you get into the weeds and start
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: reading about what's going on over there, people can't even
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: buy basic supplies. You can't even buy meat. You're lucky
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: if you, you know, you might be able to eat
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: one meal a day because I think they survive on $ 200,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: $ 250 a month if they're lucky. I mean, imagine that.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: It's insane. But you've got one group that controls the
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: trigger finger and the other group that's trying to negotiate
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: with Trump. So my gut feeling is he knows that,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: and he's probably going to hit back, but it's going
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: to be kind of like a love tap that he does,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: you know, take out some radar sites or something like that.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think you're going to see him carpet bomb
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Tehran or anything like that. But it's this thing I
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: don't see. Like I've told you, it's a quagmire. It's quicksand.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: You're stuck in it. And it's going to be very
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: difficult to extricate yourself from it right now. I just
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: don't see an easy way. I think long-term, like I've said, long-term,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: if you get a defanged Iran, it's going to be
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: much better for the world in five and ten years.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: But in the short term, next year to two, we're
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: stuck there. And, you know, if you break it, you
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: bought it, and we broke it. So now we're stuck
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: with the consequences.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: All right. Appreciate it, Rich. Thank you. NewsRadio 570. And
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Ron Furb, you're on the air.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Good afternoon.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: How are you doing this afternoon?
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I'm well. Go ahead, please.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: That's great. Hey, he's sure making Obama look good. Obama
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: was buying their stuff off, their radiation stuff off of them,
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: using their own money. And when this knucklehead gets done,
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: we're going to give that money to him, and we're
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: going to have to pay him more. And what he
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: was saying, the last caller was saying, I believe that's
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: what's going on over there also. And there's no real
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: central government holding control on everything. And that's not good.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: That's not good at all. And then another thing, too,
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: we're talking about electricity. So he shuts down the windmills.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: He bought out the one windmill thing so they wouldn't
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: shut it down. And this particular windmill set up on
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: the northeast was supposed to generate enough electricity for 100,000 homes.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: And he's got a thing about windmills because he wanted
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: to put that golf course where it's Scotland.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Stand by for me. Just stand by. Back with him
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and more of your calls. With you until 6 tonight,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Ron Furb from the Kingdom of Mahoning on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
• 19:57
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• 20:01
  Speaker 5: KBN.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: We're back at it, 335 in the afternoon.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: We're sitting with 85 degrees on a Tuesday, June 9th.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: All right, go ahead. You're on air.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: The real reason I wanted to call is yesterday. I
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: don't listen to you every single day, but I only
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: hold on the phone here for an hour, and then
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: if you don't get to me by then, I say goodnight.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: But anyhow, yesterday we had the boss lady call up
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: and tell us how many people they got to sign. Yes.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Thank God, because I read on one site where that
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: whole thing didn't have enough signatures.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, they don't have enough. They have... They're
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: not at the deadline yet. They are, let's see, I'm
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: going to give you round figures.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, don't stop right there. That was
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: the point. I believe I read that they don't have
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: enough signatures, and after thinking about what I had read
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: a week ago at dawn on me, it said that
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: what it come down to is they still had time
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: to do it.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: For some reason, I blanked that out of my head.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: that part after she got talking about it. But I
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: wanted to say thank you because I signed that myself.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, they want to get beyond the minimum. They
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: want to get 600,000 signatures so that they're well over
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: the amount that they need in case you get anyone
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: that isn't registered or whatever the case might be so
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: that you don't have to start all over again. They're
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: not that far off the mark, actually. But their goal
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: is to get at least a couple hundred thousand more signatures,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: which they seem to think they'll be able to do
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: over the next year. And hopefully they are able to
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: One way the people take back their government, huh?
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: That's what we've got to do in Washington, D.C. We've
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: got to take back the government and also take back
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: the Supreme Court for the people.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Listen, that's how you do it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: If people feel that they're not being listened to, and
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think they are anymore, that they have to say,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, you're forgetting.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Who's in charge here? We the people are.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: You guys think that you have all the power and
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you tell us the way it's going to be. And
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: they're forgotten. Like I say, in Mahoning County and Trumbull County,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: these commissioners are not concerned about the hurt that they
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: put on people that are paying these high property taxes
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: because they've been given the ability to give them a
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: slight reprieve, give them a little bit of their money back,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: and they choose not to do so because, in their opinion,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: everything else is more important now. than the person that's
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: struggling to pay this excessive reevaluation that took place. So
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: it tells you where their priorities are. Their priorities aren't
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: on the productive citizens at all. It's just like when
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: they say, okay, this is a done deal. We're going
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: to spend– $ 60 million. And it's these projects always go
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: over what they start with because we have determined we
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: three commissioners have determined that we're going to spend this money,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: which isn't our money.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: It's a taxpayer's money. And we didn't really get any.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Input from any of you guys, but you'll get stuck
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: with the bill and we're going to rip down Eastern
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: gateway and we're going to build a new, you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: county office building in downtown Youngstown. And we made the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: decision because we think it's our money and, And so
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: we're in charge and the taxpayers shouldn't have any say so. Well,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: it's the whole wrong attitude from the very beginning on
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: that issue and on property taxes.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm not going to bring up any names, okay?
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: But what I want to say here is I have
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: talked to one of them commissioners. Got a casual conversation
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: with him. I said, what's the problem? Why can't you
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: cut our taxes? And he kind of... lingerly, and I said,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: come on, just tell me the truth, and we'll let
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: that go. I'm not here to discuss, you know. I'm
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: here to discuss it. He says, then we won't have
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: the money to do the things we'd like to do
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: in the future. And I'm going, why? Because he said
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: we won't be getting any money from the state. To
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: a certain extent.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: You have to remember this. I just want to reiterate.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: The state's money is your money, too. It isn't money
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: from the state or money from the Fed.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: It's all your money. It's your money taken from you.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Taxes taken from you.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: So where do we got to hit them and hit
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: them hard? We got to hit them hard down in Columbus.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, just slam the hell out of these people.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: And I'm sorry, I know you won't vote for a Democrat.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: No.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: But that's what it's going to take to move them
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: out of there. And then next time they come up
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: to be voted, well, you can vote a Republican back
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: in there. Or maybe that Democrat might surprise you and
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: actually do good.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think so, because the Democrats, it's the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Republicans that got the property tax relief that you will
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: be experiencing, Dave Thomas in particular. But he got the
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Republicans to vote in support of it. So the next reevaluation,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: which is happening as we speak, you can't get a
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: 20 or 30 percent increase. You'll still get an increase,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: but he made it so the increase is the same
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: as the rate of inflation, not a 20 or 30 percent.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: That is a huge victory. And that happened because of
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Republican Dave Thomas and Republicans voting for it. The Democrats,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: they don't seem like they're for any of this stuff.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: And that's of concern to me. Amy Acton doesn't seem
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: like she's for.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Now, make no mistake about it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I criticize DeWine and the Republicans for stuff that they've
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: done as well. I'm not a fan of Mike DeWine,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean I'll throw the baby out with
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the bathwater. I am a fan of Dave Thomas. I'm
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: a fan of what the Republicans did so far in
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: easing property tax burdens. So if we fall short of
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: getting the signatures... Or if we get the signatures and
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: put it on the ballot and it fails, major accomplishments
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: have still taken place.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: In our benefit.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: You're right.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: And I was listening to you when that other, the
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: guy you were talking about there.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: I listened to that and I said, by God, that
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: makes a whole lot of sense. Based the taxes on the,
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: as the inflation goes up or down.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Not on a 20 or 30% up because that's what
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: we reevaluated your house.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's, this is just crazy.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is when I sit here and say,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: and people get tired of me saying it, but we're
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: pricing people out of their homes. We're pricing certainly the
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: elderly out of their homes and we're making it difficult
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: for young people to buy a home because the payment
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: is so hyped up because of the amount of property
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: taxes that are included in the payments. So, Is that
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the direction you want to go? Like there's no end
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: in sight when it comes to property taxes? We can't
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: go on.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: You are absolutely right. You got a couple rooms free
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: at your place?
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: You're always welcome. Don't you worry.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: I may not want to stay there because the way
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: this is going on, I may have to come and
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: live with you. Right.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Now, you're going to have to do a few chores,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: you understand. But other than that..
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: I can wash dishes and run a vacuum cleaner.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: All right, I'll see you first thing Monday. All right.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: See you later.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: All right, buddy.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Take care.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's my point on the commissioners. They sit
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: there and they think it's their money. It's your money.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: And this idea that we're going to put the county
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: in debt again with selling these bonds because they determined...
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that we should rip down Eastern Gateway, and they determined
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: we should build a new center in Youngstown, all decisions
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: they made in the Port Authority without really any input
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: from the community that gets stuck with the bill.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: It's almost an arrogance. We're the commissioners. You elected us.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: We've decided this is what we're going to do, and
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: you're on the hook for the money. And even if
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: you vote me out of office, you're still on the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: hook for the money. This is craziness. They forget where
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the money's coming from or where the debt goes. When
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I hear all of this, well, we can't give the
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: property tax owner a break even though we have the
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: power to do that because what about this person? What
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: about that person? What about this person? Their focus is
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: on all the people that are on the dole, not
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: on the person who's suffering the pain from paying all
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: of this stuff. Their focus isn't on a productive person
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: that's dealing with the pain of paying high property taxes
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and giving them just a little bit of relief. It's
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: on everybody else. It's the wrong focus. The focus should
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: always be on the person you're taking the money from.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: You're on the air.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, Ron, can you come right back to me?
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'll put you on hold.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: You're on the air.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Ron?
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: Oh, I was listening to Rick, and he just brought
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: me to a very good topic.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, the fact that he's talking about these
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: kids getting held back, and that was DeWine helped. with
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: that in 2023. That was that 8B33, which created the
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: ability for them to just move these kids and push
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: them forward when they're not ready. And I don't think
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: people quite understand the implications that that has down the road.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: I'd rather re-educate, you know, educate a child twice in
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: second grade than have to feed them when they hit
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: society and can't read or write. And I think it
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: goes back to the larger problem of Well, and so
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: then they created a grant within that HB 33. There
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: was all sorts of nonsense in that house bill, but
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: one of them came out with Reed, Ohio. So what
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: they do here is they create these problems. That was
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: a problem they could create so that they could create
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: a nonprofit. And then that's the family and friends and
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: another nonprofit launches and another nonprofit launches after that. This
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: is what they do, and they're good at this. And
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: I want our state reps to think bigger. I've seen
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: many posts about all this grant money that came back
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: to our county or Trumbull County, and that's great, right?
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: Because I would rather, if you're going to blow our money,
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: if the state's going to blow our money and create
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: a grant, obviously it's better if it comes back to
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: your community, but it shouldn't exist in the first place.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: I want these reps... to start thinking bigger. Instead of
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: running around saying, look at me, I brought money back
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: to the community. They need to stop funding them in
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: the state budget. The one grant I saw today was
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: soccer fields, Belmont Park Cemetery, Trumbull Fairgrounds, Geneva Recreation Center.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: This is what our tax dollars are, and then they
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: want to say they can't abolish property taxes because they
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: can't pay for schools, which they are legally required. Our
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: Constitution says that they should be. They can't fund schools,
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: but they can give soccer fields, do a Geneva Recreation Center.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: We're supposed to clap like seals and pretend like it's
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: all good. You don't get an A for bringing back
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: a grant that shouldn't even exist. These guys need to
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: step up and shut down the funding. When these things
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: even come up, we should not be funding them, especially
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: Republican conservatives.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Aren't you surprised how much of your state tax dollars
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: are literally pissed away?
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: This is exactly what's happening. It's disgusting. And then the
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: nonprofits that are spewed from here, and they're like the
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: spawn of Satan, that one nonprofit then hires another nonprofit
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: to sub out the work, and that nonprofit, and by
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: the time it's done, it's dwindled down to nothingness. You
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: start with $ 100 million, you're down to 40, because everybody
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: takes a cut. And why do people not understand this?
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: is really frustrating. I think I say it clearly. I
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: think I'm communicating it simple enough for everybody to understand.
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: Grant money is our money. All these grants, first of all,
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: they create the problem. You then have to provide a
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: solution and use grant money. It's all government expansion money.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: I don't know how any other way to say it.
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: It's so frustrating to me. And we fall for it.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: Lauren McNally on the air yesterday. You know what she
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: wants to do? She wants to go after grant money. Okay, Lauren, congratulations. Although, again,
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: it's better that you bring it back to our community
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: versus it going to another. But it shouldn't exist in
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: the first place. But what really made me mad, she
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: wants to hire a consultant. So now you want to
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: waste our money to find the money.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I can't take it, Ron.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: I can't take it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Now she was talking about..
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: The steam plants and saying, okay, we want to get
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: some type of a grant, right. To get this thing
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: up and running and fixed.
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: I don't even know what the heck you're talking about.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, okay, so now this is the,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: up to the taxpayers now to fix this. It's a
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: massive problem down there. I mean, you have all these
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: buildings that depend on that for their heating. And I mean,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: it's just, it's an absolute nightmare down there on, on
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: what's going on.
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: We need to hear the other, the other side of
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: the story on that one, as it regards to that,
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: to that steam plant. And, you know, they took it over, right.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: It went to receivership and they, these, this other entity
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: took it over and they've, Probably not been managing it
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: well because they're not experts at that technology. So, I mean,
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: there's two sides to that story. But it's like to
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: hire consultants to find us grants is insane when I
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: did that in 12 seconds with a tax EPT inquiry.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: Tell me all the grants that a county is eligible
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: for right now. It'll list them in 12 seconds. You
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: don't hire a consultant. I mean, I guess the stupidity, right?
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: They want to force the AI on everybody, but they
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: don't even use it to cut... all the way. But
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: I really want state reps to think bigger. I want
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: them to think bigger. Stop the funding before it even
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: gets there. I don't want you to go out and
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: grab it. I want you to shut it down. I
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: don't want to pay for a soccer field. I don't
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: want to make the Belmont Park Cemetery look better. That's
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: not on me. Whoever, that company, Belmont Park, do it
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  Speaker 6: your damn self. You've been paid for it. Geneva Recreation Center,
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: I love a good swing set myself. Guess what? I
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: What did they do 50 years ago, Ron? What did
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: people do 50 years ago that we have to provide?
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: Trouble at fairgrounds. That's not my problem.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 6: It's infuriating. And it's all, when Rich was talking about
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: the education system, that's exactly right. Because you're going to
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: force these kids through, and then I've got to feed
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: them later.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 6: I've got to feed them later because they can't read
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  Speaker 6: or write.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Right. And it doesn't get easier. One builds on the other.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: So what's the social promotion? We don't want to scar you.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: We don't want to hurt you. This is a craziness.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a punishment.
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  Speaker 6: It's not a punishment. It's a reward. We're going to
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: invest in you. We're going to invest in you because
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: we believe in you. You need a little bit of
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: help because we know you could make it out there
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  Speaker 6: on your own one day. So let's invest in you today.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to force you through until I've got
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: to feed you for the next 50 years.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Yep, you didn't meet the standard to move on to
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the next grade. So deal with it. I'm with you 100%,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: boss lady. The Jewish Center.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: The Jewish Center. We have to give money to the
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: Jewish Center.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: What's that about?
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Another grant.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Stand by. I'll be back with the boss lady.
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  Speaker 1: Towns News, Weather, and Talk Station, 570 WKBN. And your
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: fearless leader, Ron Verb from the Kingdom of Mahoning, 356.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in agreement. Oh, wait a second. I've got to
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: find a boss lady.
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  Speaker 6: I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. I'm here. I'm in agreement with you.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Listen, I can't fault anybody for going after the grants
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: because they are there right now.
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  Speaker 3: Agreed.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't fault whether it's Lorne McNally saying it.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I'm going to try to get a grant to help
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: out the steam plant because it affects so many people
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: as far as the heating for the winter downtown. Something
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: needs to get done. The grant's there. I'd rather we
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: get it and we take advantage of it or any
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: of these other grants. So I don't fault anybody for
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: doing that. But if you're saying, should these grants exist
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: in the first place for all this ridiculous spending?
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  Speaker 2: Of our tax dollars.
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  Speaker 6: They could not.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I do agree with you there because I read about
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of these grants for this and that and
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I'm reading thinking, well, this is why your taxes are
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: so high because you're paying.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: For this nonsense.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: This is why our income tax and sales tax and
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: everything else is so high and they're taking our money
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: and they're choosing where they would like to direct the funds.
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: So they're creating the grant, the blah, blah, blah grant
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: for swing sets and playgrounds.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: It feels like It's so set up to me. It
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: feels like they want the money to go there for
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: a reason. And I don't know whether that's kickbacks.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: I know they happen.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: Whether it's the family and friends, nonprofit, it is enraging. No,
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: we want our money back. We want our money back.
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: How about I'll just buy my own swing set?
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: How about I stop taking my money?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I hate it when people say, well, when I was
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: a kid, when we were a kid, if we wanted
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: to play on the monkey bars to the swing set,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: we would go up to the school. I mean, the school,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the elementary school had the playground. We didn't have it
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: in our backyard. We didn't expect the town to put
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: a park together with all this in. We went to
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: the school because that's where this stuff was. Not a
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: big deal.
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: It's not a big deal, but it's the government expansion,
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: and they're creating the reason. They are creating some of
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: this legislation. It's creating the reason that they must expand.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: It's intentional. It's like thought out. It's like planned. I
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: don't know how else to say it.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I know how to say it. The problem is.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: We need legislators who are going to shut this down
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: before it ever even gets there.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: We need..
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: Lower taxes, and they constantly say they can't do this
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: or they can't do that. You absolutely can. They just
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: gave another $ 6 million for reading programs just in 2026.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: From ABC News, I'm Wayne Kabat. The U.S. is weighing
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: a response after determining that an Iranian drone downed a U.S.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Army Apache helicopter this morning with two crew aboard on
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: patrol off Oman near the Strait of Hormuz. The crew
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: was rescued, but President Trump says that the U.S. must
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: out of necessity respond. Iran's top diplomat says the best
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: way for foreign forces near the strait to reduce their
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: risk is for them to leave. ABC's Louis Martinez on
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: what took down the Apache chopper.
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: Maybe potentially what was happening here is that there was
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: a nighttime collision. Because if this is one of the
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: types of drones that is used in attacking commercial ships,
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: that is not a drone that fires weapons, but a
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: drone that is an impact drone, a one-way attack drone.
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: So potentially what we're talking about here is some kind
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: of a collision. And this gets to the whole intent.
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: Was Iran strategic? Were they intentionally targeting this helicopter? Or
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: was it just a situation of a bad location at
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: the wrong time?
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: The verdict is now in for a young man who
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: claims he acted in self-defense when he fatally stabbed 17-year-old
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Austin Metcalf during a... High school track meet in Texas.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: ABC News legal contributor Brian Buckmeyer on the conviction just
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: now of Carmelo Anthony.
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: So this is a verdict that came for under three hours.
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: What that tells me in a case that self-defense is
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: made the primary defense, if not the only defense by
• 40:23
  Speaker 8: the defense counsel here, is that the jury adamantly threw
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: that out. They said that there was no issue here
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: as to whether or not Carmel Anthony subjectively, meaning his
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: own perception, or objectively, those in the 12 in the
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: jury who made a decision, that he believed his life
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: was in danger, that he needed to use deadly force.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: He faces up to life in prison. Immigration update. The
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: House clears a procedural hurdle for a $ 70 billion immigration
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: bill after a brief revolt from hardliners. Speaker Mike Johnson
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: didn't have a lot of wiggle room with Republican Tom
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Kane Jr. of New Jersey still out with a health issue.
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