Latest / The Right Time with Bomani Jones / Vernon Maxwell GOES OFF on Celtics trading Jaylen Brown, Spurs Collapse vs. Knicks | 07.09
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Wave.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
- 0:13Speaker 2: My name is Bobani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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- 0:19Speaker 2: rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only
- 0:21Speaker 2: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
- 0:24Speaker 2: a hater. It is that time of week where we
- 0:26Speaker 2: have a guest join us. I don't know how it
- 0:29Speaker 2: is that this is only the second time that we've
- 0:31Speaker 2: had my man on. First time back since 2021 NBA champion.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Check him out. On All the Smoke, Vernon Maxwell. What's
- 0:39Speaker 2: going on?
- 0:39Speaker 3: Hey, my brother. What's going on, Vimani, man? Thanks for
- 0:42Speaker 3: having me on again.
- 0:43Speaker 4: You know, every damn time you call for me and
- 0:46Speaker 4: you ask for Vernon Maxwell, you know I'm coming, man. But, like,
- 0:49Speaker 4: we was talking about, unless you want to wait, but
- 0:52Speaker 4: we were talking about this before the show.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Me and you just, you brought it up. Now, you
- 0:58Speaker 3: really one of the reasons how I blew up.
- 1:01Speaker 4: Just to give you all the, I got to give
- 1:04Speaker 4: it up where it came from. And Your show, when
- 1:08Speaker 4: you had me on the first time, this is the
- 1:11Speaker 4: second time.
- 1:12Speaker 3: But the first.
- 1:13Speaker 4: Time is really how everybody got to know how Mad
- 1:16Speaker 4: Max really was and the Lajuan story and all that shit.
- 1:21Speaker 4: So appreciate you, my brother.
- 1:24Speaker 3: I had to say that to you, though. We wanted
- 1:26Speaker 3: to say that to you.
- 1:27Speaker 2: I appreciate you. And the funny part that I don't
- 1:29Speaker 2: think we had talked about that part of how this
- 1:31Speaker 2: happened was I had you do a cameo for my
- 1:34Speaker 2: brother for his birthday. And I was like, oh, wait,
- 1:38Speaker 2: Max out here?
- 1:39Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:39Speaker 2: And so it was like during COVID and all this,
- 1:41Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, let's get Max on. Let's just see
- 1:43Speaker 2: how this goes. Because we normally don't do a lot
- 1:45Speaker 2: of interviews on here with people that I don't really,
- 1:48Speaker 2: really know. You know what I mean? And so that
- 1:51Speaker 2: went so well. I was like, oh, man, now I
- 1:53Speaker 2: look up, you all with Matt and Steven. And I
- 1:55Speaker 2: got to say, that's trouble. That's three times the trouble
- 1:58Speaker 2: right there with y'all on the same squad.
- 1:59Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, they're my brothers right there. I love going
- 2:02Speaker 4: out and being live with them, man. I mean, it's
- 2:06Speaker 4: just a great time.
- 2:07Speaker 3: Every time we get on there together. Hey, boys, they
- 2:10Speaker 3: let us be how we want to be. It's a
- 2:13Speaker 3: wonderful time, man, with all the smoke.
- 2:15Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you this one thing before we
- 2:16Speaker 2: get into the NBA stuff, right? Is somebody going to
- 2:19Speaker 2: do that pause thing? Because that's what the kids do
- 2:20Speaker 2: these days. But, dog, you be on the internet looking
- 2:23Speaker 2: like you still play basketball. Like, you now what? How
- 2:29Speaker 2: old are you now?
- 2:29Speaker 3: Shit, I'm 69, Ramon.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Dog, that's what I'm saying. How is this possible? What
- 2:33Speaker 2: is the workout regimen that you are engaging in?
- 2:36Speaker 3: Man, I'm working out. I work out all the time, man.
- 2:40Speaker 4: I get up before everybody get up, get it done,
- 2:43Speaker 4: do my sit-ups and my push-ups and weight room and
- 2:46Speaker 4: then come back and get on the Peloton and ride
- 2:49Speaker 4: the Peloton about five days out the week and do
- 2:53Speaker 4: all my abs and everything. I just keep myself, but
- 2:55Speaker 4: I eat like shit though now. I eat every motherfucking thing.
- 3:00Speaker 4: Fried foods, all kinds of shit. I just had fried
- 3:02Speaker 4: pork chops last night. I know people like pork chops.
- 3:05Speaker 3: This nigga eating pork.
- 3:06Speaker 2: Yeah, pork.
- 3:08Speaker 4: Fried fucking pork chops last night between a piece of
- 3:11Speaker 4: goddamn bread and hot sauce.
- 3:13Speaker 3: That's right. I eat bad.
- 3:16Speaker 2: You the dude that women hate, right? You're out here
- 3:18Speaker 2: doing all of this and there appears to be no
- 3:21Speaker 2: evidence of any of it.
- 3:22Speaker 3: Yes, man. No, I'm getting it in.
- 3:25Speaker 4: I love eating where I can eat anything and it
- 3:29Speaker 4: don't show.
- 3:30Speaker 1: So, yeah.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Well, yo, tell me this. How were you enjoying doing
- 3:33Speaker 2: the media stuff? Because I didn't get the feeling that
- 3:36Speaker 2: you were a dude who saw himself as somebody who
- 3:37Speaker 2: would wind up in media when it came down to it.
- 3:41Speaker 3: I know, but mine ain't got down, man.
- 3:42Speaker 4: It was, I mean, it was just, like, my guy Cam, man.
- 3:47Speaker 4: You know, Cam, he just kept pushing it. He kept saying, Max, man,
- 3:51Speaker 4: you'll be good, man. You'll be good in that space.
- 3:54Speaker 4: You need to, like, you know, just give it a chance.
- 3:57Speaker 3: Give it a chance. And I was asking him shit.
- 4:00Speaker 3: At first, I was like, Shit, well, how much is
- 4:02Speaker 3: that shit going to cost me?
- 4:04Speaker 4: That's what the fuck I'm asking.
- 4:06Speaker 3: You know, I was asking, how much is that shit
- 4:08Speaker 3: going to cost me?
- 4:09Speaker 4: And he was like, Max, it ain't going to cost
- 4:11Speaker 4: you nothing, man. Just let me, give me a chance.
- 4:13Speaker 4: Let me reach out and try to get you a
- 4:15Speaker 4: couple sponsors.
- 4:17Speaker 3: And he did.
- 4:18Speaker 4: And when I did the first guy, it was Iverson.
- 4:23Speaker 4: I was like, shit, I kind of like that shit.
- 4:25Speaker 4: It was kind of like a rush for me. And
- 4:28Speaker 4: then now it doesn't like calm down for me though.
- 4:30Speaker 4: But now it was like a rush when I first
- 4:32Speaker 4: started and I was a little nervous and shit. I
- 4:35Speaker 4: had a little nervousness and all this shit going on.
- 4:38Speaker 4: But now I just, I love it, man, where I
- 4:40Speaker 4: can interview and get interviewed. And you know what I mean?
- 4:44Speaker 4: And cause I mean, I got a space now where
- 4:47Speaker 4: I can, I can, I can say something, you know,
- 4:49Speaker 4: and I, and I enjoy motherfuckers being able to say
- 4:53Speaker 4: what I want to say. And then I got a
- 4:55Speaker 4: lot of people that want to hear what the.
- 4:57Speaker 3: Fuck I got to say. And, you know, I mean,
- 5:02Speaker 3: I'm happy about that, too.
- 5:04Speaker 4: So that's the real reason, though, for mine. It's because
- 5:10Speaker 4: I got a space now I can say what the
- 5:12Speaker 4: fuck I want to say. And I got people want
- 5:15Speaker 4: to hear what the fuck I.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Got to say. Well, I want to ask you this.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Start with the NBA stuff. We've been talking a lot
- 5:20Speaker 2: about the Jalen Brown trade and everything that went on
- 5:24Speaker 2: around what was going on there. My first question is,
- 5:27Speaker 2: what do you think about him as a player? Because
- 5:30Speaker 2: he's the guy that there's the gap between what a
- 5:32Speaker 2: lot of the numbers tell you and what a lot
- 5:34Speaker 2: of the eyeballs tell you, which means the answer is
- 5:36Speaker 2: probably somewhere in the middle.
- 5:37Speaker 4: But see, I'm not an analytics guy. See, I ain't
- 5:40Speaker 4: in that shit.
- 5:41Speaker 3: I know what I see. I done that motherfucking flow
- 5:44Speaker 3: of the money.
- 5:45Speaker 4: That motherfucker is a killer.
- 5:47Speaker 3: You hear me?
- 5:48Speaker 4: This motherfucker is a killer. I love this kid, man.
- 5:52Speaker 4: I love everything about him. I mean, everything he represents.
- 5:56Speaker 4: I mean, on and off the floor. I mean, man,
- 5:59Speaker 4: got freedom of speech, man. Say what the fuck you want.
- 6:02Speaker 4: And he ain't saying nothing crazy. I mean, he's just
- 6:05Speaker 4: really like a shit. Just like, I mean, I wish
- 6:08Speaker 4: I would have did it more when I was playing shit.
- 6:12Speaker 4: For you to hear me say that, shit said what
- 6:14Speaker 4: the fuck I really wanted to say. And shit sold.
- 6:18Speaker 3: I just, I shit. Basketball player, man, I just think
- 6:22Speaker 3: he's one of the, he in my top five, you know,
- 6:25Speaker 3: basketball player.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Oh, you got him top five.
- 6:27Speaker 3: Yeah, I got him top five. I love him, man.
- 6:30Speaker 4: I mean, seeing what he did last year, the way
- 6:33Speaker 4: he carried that team, man.
- 6:35Speaker 3: I mean, he did, they did.
- 6:38Speaker 4: A lot of people disrespect him because of all, I mean,
- 6:42Speaker 4: I guess the outside noise is outside the basketball court.
- 6:45Speaker 4: you know, when he get to talk in that talk,
- 6:47Speaker 4: cause it's very intelligent guy, you know what I mean? And,
- 6:50Speaker 4: and I, that's what I love to see, you know,
- 6:54Speaker 4: a very intelligent black man. I mean, really knows what
- 6:57Speaker 4: the fuck he's talking about. And he just not up
- 7:00Speaker 4: here just talking, you know what I mean? And then he,
- 7:03Speaker 4: and then he can back it up too. Cause I'm
- 7:06Speaker 4: just saying, he's just not up here talking. So that
- 7:09Speaker 4: part right there, but, um, I love everything about that kid, man.
- 7:13Speaker 4: I mean, um, he's going to be well, man. He's
- 7:16Speaker 4: going to do well over there in Philly, man.
- 7:17Speaker 3: God damn. They just gave that motherfucker away, man. Good God.
- 7:22Speaker 2: Well, so the thing that gets me about him, I'm
- 7:23Speaker 2: curious what you think about this because I feel like
- 7:25Speaker 2: in public perception, we went through waves. Like three years ago,
- 7:28Speaker 2: all we talked about how he couldn't dribble because that
- 7:31Speaker 2: is not what he is best at, right? We agree
- 7:33Speaker 2: with that. He'll dribble his ass into trouble and he
- 7:35Speaker 2: kept dribbling his ass into trouble. And then the next year,
- 7:37Speaker 2: he wins conference finals MVP. He wins finals MVP. 2025,
- 7:42Speaker 2: I feel like we don't even really Tatum tearing his
- 7:45Speaker 2: Achilles was such a big deal that it just kind of,
- 7:48Speaker 2: it didn't even matter what the discussion was from there.
- 7:50Speaker 2: And then this last year at once, he carried them
- 7:53Speaker 2: to those 60 wins. And then they blew that series
- 7:55Speaker 2: lead at three one against Philadelphia. So for me, I
- 7:59Speaker 2: can never exactly know how I feel about him, except
- 8:02Speaker 2: the thing I feel like is what he can do
- 8:04Speaker 2: is get you 35 when you need it. And that's
- 8:06Speaker 2: an important thing to be able to do.
- 8:08Speaker 3: And that's what the NBA is about right now. I mean,
- 8:11Speaker 3: when you need a bucket, You.
- 8:13Speaker 4: Need a mother and father just like that to give
- 8:15Speaker 4: him the rock and go get him one. And that's
- 8:18Speaker 4: what the NBA is right now.
- 8:20Speaker 3: I mean, shit.
- 8:21Speaker 4: I mean, a lot of inconsistency going on in the
- 8:24Speaker 4: damn NBA too. I mean, I think we're talking about
- 8:28Speaker 4: analytics and shit.
- 8:29Speaker 3: But, I mean, the NBA is different right now for me.
- 8:36Speaker 3: You know what I mean? It's very different.
- 8:39Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this, because I think there's
- 8:41Speaker 2: one thing that I think is interesting in the numbers
- 8:43Speaker 2: that people point out that it sounds like analytics, but
- 8:45Speaker 2: it's pretty simple. It's just the idea that just by
- 8:48Speaker 2: point scored the last few years, the Celtics have been
- 8:51Speaker 2: better when he wasn't on the floor than when he
- 8:54Speaker 2: was on the floor. And I do think that's interesting.
- 8:56Speaker 2: I don't know how to tease all that out necessarily, but.
- 9:00Speaker 3: See, that's what I'm saying.
- 9:01Speaker 2: You know what I mean? But I also feel like
- 9:02Speaker 2: part of that is Mizzou will be having them other
- 9:04Speaker 2: dudes play extra hard. So when it's a bunch of
- 9:06Speaker 2: bench dudes in there and he's not in there, it's
- 9:09Speaker 2: them go-hard cats. And that matters a lot in the
- 9:11Speaker 2: regular season. It don't matter as much in the playoffs.
- 9:13Speaker 3: Right, right, right. And I agree with that. But the coach, Mizzou,
- 9:17Speaker 3: I love him.
- 9:18Speaker 4: He's a great coach. I mean, that is a weird stat, right?
- 9:23Speaker 4: When they came on, I would have never thought that shit.
- 9:26Speaker 4: If you'd have told me just saying that, that's what
- 9:30Speaker 4: analytics say.
- 9:32Speaker 3: But damn, that's wild for me.
- 9:34Speaker 4: I don't understand it, but it didn't seem that way
- 9:38Speaker 4: when I was watching the game. But shit, I thought
- 9:40Speaker 4: they needed him out there on the mother-of-a-bother floor to
- 9:43Speaker 4: be able to win. So they said, I guess they didn't.
- 9:45Speaker 4: So that's why it was an easy damn thing. decision
- 9:49Speaker 4: for him to get rid of his ass. But I
- 9:51Speaker 4: don't think that was a great decision. I mean, no
- 9:54Speaker 4: disrespect to Paul George. Everybody been disrespecting Paul George.
- 9:58Speaker 3: But I mean, PG, shit.
- 10:01Speaker 4: Keep doing what you're doing. Keep getting them goddamn checks. And,
- 10:04Speaker 4: I mean, shit, I mean, keep hooping, man.
- 10:08Speaker 3: I mean, but more power to you, brother.
- 10:11Speaker 4: I mean, I'd like to see the brothers get this
- 10:13Speaker 4: money and keep getting it, man. Shit, just like, I mean, so,
- 10:17Speaker 4: but nah, but Jalen Brown, man, I love the guy, man.
- 10:21Speaker 4: Great ball player and great person on the floor. He
- 10:24Speaker 4: had my top five.
- 10:27Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to throw something else at you that
- 10:28Speaker 2: may surprise you, because I talked about this the last
- 10:31Speaker 2: show we did, where there are certain guys where the
- 10:34Speaker 2: advanced numbers do not match up to what is obvious
- 10:36Speaker 2: to us. Isaiah Thomas is an example of that in
- 10:39Speaker 2: the past. Anthony Edwards is another guy where those numbers
- 10:42Speaker 2: don't quite match up. Jason Tatum, for what it's worth,
- 10:44Speaker 2: is another guy that's like that. But a guy near
- 10:48Speaker 2: and dear to your heart that may surprise you that
- 10:50Speaker 2: is actually like this also is Akeem Olajuwon. You go
- 10:54Speaker 2: look at a lot of the advanced numbers on Akeem Olajuwon,
- 10:56Speaker 2: like you put Akeem Olajuwon next to David Robinson with
- 10:59Speaker 2: those numbers, and David Robinson destroys him every time, except
- 11:03Speaker 2: we were there in 1995. And so none of us
- 11:05Speaker 2: would agree with that assessment.
- 11:09Speaker 3: Hell no.
- 11:10Speaker 4: I don't know how that happened. I mean, I guess
- 11:14Speaker 4: Dream was just bored and shit until he saw these motherfuckers.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Well, Dream used to say that he was bored, right?
- 11:19Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just telling you, man.
- 11:21Speaker 3: He was just bored, man, until he saw these motherfuckers.
- 11:24Speaker 3: And then they just bring out the best in this motherfucker. Jack,
- 11:28Speaker 3: all of them. I can keep going down the line.
- 11:30Speaker 3: He gave it all to every last one of them.
- 11:32Speaker 3: I seen it.
- 11:33Speaker 4: It was like, goddamn, man. Now I think about it, man.
- 11:36Speaker 4: I'd be like, I was taking that shit for granted.
- 11:39Speaker 1: That motherfucker was killing some motherfuckers man I mean all
- 11:43Speaker 1: the top motherfuckers I mean they know who they are
- 11:47Speaker 1: shit I'm.
- 11:49Speaker 2: Trying to think about this with Dream. Can you think
- 11:51Speaker 2: of anybody else where there's literally nobody else like that?
- 11:55Speaker 2: Like we saw Kobe do a reasonable Michael Jordan impression, right?
- 11:58Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that it's an insult to either
- 12:01Speaker 2: of those guys.
- 12:01Speaker 3: No doubt.
- 12:02Speaker 2: All these cats go down there and work out with
- 12:04Speaker 2: Dream and none of them come back looking like they
- 12:06Speaker 2: even met Dream because the only person that could do.
- 12:09Speaker 3: That, and by the way, he wasn't even that tall.
- 12:11Speaker 2: The only person who could do that shit was him.
- 12:14Speaker 4: Yeah, because Dream should have told them motherfuckers first. Hey,
- 12:18Speaker 4: get a soccer ball first. And then learn how to
- 12:20Speaker 4: fuck with that soccer ball first. Then come down here
- 12:22Speaker 4: and see. Because that's what the fuck he was doing
- 12:25Speaker 4: before he was playing.
- 12:26Speaker 3: He was fucking with that soccer ball. It's all feet work.
- 12:29Speaker 3: And that's all.
- 12:30Speaker 4: So Dream should have told him that because, I mean,
- 12:33Speaker 4: he was fucking with that soccer ball. And that soccer ball,
- 12:35Speaker 4: I guess it evolves into basketball feet work with Dream.
- 12:39Speaker 4: And that's why he was being ready to turn like
- 12:41Speaker 4: a goddamn ballerina and let that motherfucker fly falling out
- 12:44Speaker 4: of bounds. I mean, so, I mean, that part right there,
- 12:49Speaker 4: I just don't understand that part either because nobody, like
- 12:53Speaker 4: you said, comes out of that motherfucker and do none
- 12:55Speaker 4: of that shit.
- 12:57Speaker 3: He was doing.
- 12:59Speaker 4: I mean, it makes a motherfucker a bunch of money
- 13:01Speaker 4: being white because, I mean, I wouldn't even, I mean,
- 13:04Speaker 4: not no knock on dream, but shit, I wouldn't even
- 13:06Speaker 4: go out there and fuck a dream cause I know
- 13:09Speaker 4: I ain't gonna be able to perfect that shit, man,
- 13:11Speaker 4: in no motherfucking, no month and a half. You know,
- 13:16Speaker 4: I ain't gonna, you know, a month and shit, I
- 13:18Speaker 4: ain't gonna be able to perfect that. So I might
- 13:19Speaker 4: as well even not waste a month.
- 13:22Speaker 2: Yeah, with the shake. Like, because, see, growing up, all
- 13:26Speaker 2: those cats in Houston that had any size, it was
- 13:29Speaker 2: a bunch of dudes in high school trying to do
- 13:31Speaker 2: an Olajuwon impression. And if you can't do it as
- 13:34Speaker 2: an actual professional, can you imagine, like, being a high
- 13:36Speaker 2: school basketball coach and trying to explain, hey, man, I
- 13:39Speaker 2: need you to just cut that shit out right fast
- 13:41Speaker 2: and let's put it on this drop step.
- 13:42Speaker 3: Ha, ha, ha. Yeah. That's right. Hey, man, stop with
- 13:51Speaker 3: all this shaking shit, man. Just take it. Do the basic, man.
- 13:54Speaker 3: Learn how to do that shit first because.
- 13:57Speaker 4: All that spinning and faking and shimmy shaking and all
- 14:00Speaker 4: that shit, man, and then putting them between your face
- 14:02Speaker 4: and them and then snatching them. You know, he was
- 14:05Speaker 4: good at that. He used to tell me, Maxie, I
- 14:09Speaker 4: snatch him at night.
- 14:11Speaker 3: Face him. Snatch his ass. Snatch him, snatch him. I mean,
- 14:16Speaker 3: straight up snatch him, motherfucker. Face him up. Bam.
- 14:21Speaker 2: Well, that joint where he would do it, where he
- 14:23Speaker 2: would put the ball on the baseline and there's no
- 14:24Speaker 2: way that he could ever go on the baseline, but
- 14:26Speaker 2: he would still run over there with the cameraman and
- 14:28Speaker 2: then he'd come back and hit you with the hook.
- 14:30Speaker 4: I ain't know what he was doing. I thought he
- 14:32Speaker 4: was going at it. That motherfucker, he had to tiptoes.
- 14:34Speaker 4: That motherfucker used to get all over the base. You
- 14:36Speaker 4: think the motherfucker out of bounds, won't you? He'd come
- 14:39Speaker 4: right back the other way with that hook on your ass.
- 14:41Speaker 3: I said, good God almighty, brother.
- 14:43Speaker 4: Dream was amazing, man. That's why I tell everybody, man.
- 14:46Speaker 4: I ain't played with nobody better than him, man.
- 14:49Speaker 3: I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm just saying.
- 14:52Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this, because we didn't get
- 14:53Speaker 2: into it too much when I talked about it before
- 14:55Speaker 2: with Jalen Brown, but him going to Philadelphia is interesting.
- 14:58Speaker 2: But my question is, well, one, we don't know how
- 15:00Speaker 2: much Embiid is going to play, but how does the
- 15:03Speaker 2: ball sharing work out with all three of those guys
- 15:06Speaker 2: in there?
- 15:07Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure they're going to figure that part out.
- 15:09Speaker 3: It's got to be figured out.
- 15:10Speaker 4: I mean, the motherfuckers, all the motherfuckers been playing for
- 15:13Speaker 4: a little while.
- 15:15Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
- 15:16Speaker 4: Once they get out there on the floor, they're going
- 15:17Speaker 4: to feel it and see. You know, Maxie got to
- 15:20Speaker 4: stay being Maxie because if he change, his shit going
- 15:23Speaker 4: to look strange. So he got to continue being himself.
- 15:28Speaker 4: And Jalen Brown is going to automatically know how to
- 15:30Speaker 4: fit the fuck in. You know, because this motherfucker just
- 15:33Speaker 4: know how to play. Like I just said, he in
- 15:36Speaker 4: my top five. He just know how to play. So
- 15:39Speaker 4: he gonna fit the fuck in. And so Eshka, the
- 15:44Speaker 4: young boy, he gonna have to figure it out.
- 15:47Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
- 15:48Speaker 4: But he gonna have his little runs and shit where
- 15:51Speaker 4: he get a little, where he have good games and stuff. But,
- 15:55Speaker 4: you know, he gotta take a couple of seats back.
- 15:57Speaker 4: You know, it's a big dog in him, this motherfucker.
- 16:02Speaker 3: You know, big J.B. I mean, so, you know, we got, well,
- 16:06Speaker 3: we respect what the young boy have done as a rookie.
- 16:09Speaker 3: I mean, a lot of growth, you know, played well
- 16:12Speaker 3: in the playoffs, so shit.
- 16:13Speaker 4: We respect all that, but JB coming in there, so
- 16:16Speaker 4: we got to take a backseat to that.
- 16:18Speaker 3: And then I'm just saying, MB, so we don't know
- 16:24Speaker 3: how many motherfucking games this motherfucker play. So, I mean,
- 16:28Speaker 3: we don't know what this motherfucker doing right now. See
- 16:31Speaker 3: what I'm saying?
- 16:32Speaker 4: We don't know what this motherfucker doing, my man. I
- 16:34Speaker 4: don't know what this motherfucker doing. I mean, is he
- 16:37Speaker 4: in the gym?
- 16:38Speaker 3: Is he rehabbing?
- 16:39Speaker 4: Is he trying to get all that weight off him?
- 16:41Speaker 4: I mean, so we know the basketball player, when he healthy.
- 16:45Speaker 3: He's good.
- 16:46Speaker 4: Mind you, this motherfucker is good. He's one of the
- 16:48Speaker 4: top bigs in the motherfucking league.
- 16:51Speaker 3: Damn. What?
- 16:53Speaker 4: Is he going to be healthy? That's the damn thing
- 16:55Speaker 4: with him now. You know, that motherfucker was one of
- 16:57Speaker 4: the top players. He was going to be the face
- 16:59Speaker 4: of the fucking NBA at one point. This motherfucker just
- 17:02Speaker 4: stayed hurt.
- 17:03Speaker 3: I mean, come on.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Dude, I forget that he plays for them because you
- 17:07Speaker 2: just can't count on it. You know what I mean?
- 17:08Speaker 2: Not like I don't actually forget, but it's not something
- 17:11Speaker 2: that you can just bet on when you make your
- 17:12Speaker 2: decisions about what the Sixers are going to do or
- 17:14Speaker 2: try to come up with some assessment of what it's
- 17:16Speaker 2: going to be at the end. It was a shock
- 17:18Speaker 2: that he played as much as he did in the
- 17:19Speaker 2: postseason when it happened. It was like, oh, that's right.
- 17:21Speaker 3: He does still play. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that was.
- 17:24Speaker 3: That is. That's right.
- 17:26Speaker 4: I felt like he kind of like takes away from Maxie.
- 17:33Speaker 4: when he plays because he has to have the ball
- 17:35Speaker 4: and you know, so much. And Max is, you know,
- 17:40Speaker 4: a ball dominant guy too, you know. I mean, but
- 17:43Speaker 4: he knows how to play off the ball too.
- 17:44Speaker 1: Max, he know how to play.
- 17:46Speaker 3: You know, he know how to play. You can tell
- 17:47Speaker 3: he's a well coached, that motherfucker, he know how to
- 17:49Speaker 3: play off the ball too.
- 17:50Speaker 4: But yeah, and Big, man, he just, we just don't
- 17:54Speaker 4: know how many motherfucking games this motherfucker gonna play. If
- 17:56Speaker 4: he can get healthy and he can play with these guys, man,
- 17:59Speaker 4: at least, Them 85% of them goddamn games.
- 18:02Speaker 3: Man, I think they're going to be tough. That's going
- 18:04Speaker 3: to be a tough team.
- 18:06Speaker 2: What do you think about the Celtics? Because I don't
- 18:08Speaker 2: think you can argue. Even with the on-off stuff, it's
- 18:11Speaker 2: hard to argue that you got better trading Jalen Brown
- 18:14Speaker 2: for year 17 Paul George.
- 18:17Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't understand that one.
- 18:22Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 18:23Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's something that J.B., he was
- 18:28Speaker 4: some feathers or something. when he started doing on this
- 18:32Speaker 4: little podcast thing he was doing. And I think he
- 18:37Speaker 4: said some shit about some people that they didn't like.
- 18:41Speaker 4: And they just, and then, I mean, they was, I mean,
- 18:45Speaker 4: the guy came on, Brad came on, Stevenson said, you know, man,
- 18:51Speaker 4: we got an open door policy and all this bullshit. Nigga,
- 18:54Speaker 4: you know, at the same time, Bruff, you're out there
- 18:55Speaker 4: trying to get rid of this motherfucker.
- 18:57Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
- 18:58Speaker 4: The same guy, the time you said that shit on ESPN,
- 19:00Speaker 4: you're getting rid of it. You're trying to get rid
- 19:02Speaker 4: of this motherfucker. But, I mean, for JB, I mean,
- 19:07Speaker 4: it's a great trade for him. I mean, now he
- 19:09Speaker 4: can go and, like he said, he's free now. Shit,
- 19:12Speaker 4: that's what the man said.
- 19:13Speaker 3: I said, damn, how this motherfucker say he's free now?
- 19:17Speaker 3: I felt you. You're free over there.
- 19:19Speaker 4: He said he's free now. I said, God damn it.
- 19:22Speaker 4: I got to see what the fuck he talking about now, Coach.
- 19:25Speaker 4: That motherfucker's a killer, man. But the man said he's free.
- 19:29Speaker 4: But I just felt like that was crazy as.
- 19:31Speaker 3: Hell, man.
- 19:31Speaker 4: I just didn't understand it. I just felt like it's
- 19:33Speaker 4: something that he said. I mean, it couldn't be about
- 19:36Speaker 4: the plate. I mean, the thing I don't.
- 19:40Speaker 3: Like, though, my mind is just bullshit about him.
- 19:44Speaker 4: You know, if you fuck with me, Jason Tatum, nigga,
- 19:49Speaker 4: where you was through all this shit?
- 19:51Speaker 3: When all this shit was going, you should have went
- 19:53Speaker 3: in that motherfucking front office and sat down with those motherfuckers.
- 19:55Speaker 4: Hey, let me tell you something now.
- 19:57Speaker 3: Hey, that's my goddamn guy.
- 20:00Speaker 4: Now, I don't know if I'm Batman or Robin or
- 20:02Speaker 4: he Ralph Robin and I'm Batman, but goddamn it.
- 20:05Speaker 3: Hey, keep that motherfucker here. You hear what I'm saying?
- 20:09Speaker 4: Man, all that shit, man, let me go talk to JB.
- 20:12Speaker 4: But y'all got to keep this motherfucker here. I tell
- 20:14Speaker 4: him to bring that shit down a little bit, JB.
- 20:18Speaker 4: But y'all got to tell him, keep this motherfucker here.
- 20:20Speaker 2: Well, that's the part I'm actually surprised hasn't come up
- 20:23Speaker 2: a little bit more, is that if Jason Tatum... The
- 20:27Speaker 2: Celtics had clearly decided that Jason Tatum is the one,
- 20:30Speaker 2: even if he's coming off the Achilles' chair.
- 20:32Speaker 3: But.
- 20:34Speaker 2: he clearly did not jump in front of the bus
- 20:37Speaker 2: on this one, right? There's no evidence to indicate, even
- 20:39Speaker 2: if you don't think that Tatum got him out of there,
- 20:42Speaker 2: Tatum did not keep him there. And I think that
- 20:44Speaker 2: there's a story in that part.
- 20:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 20:46Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I'm saying right there, that part right there. Goddamn, Tatum,
- 20:50Speaker 4: I mean, Tatum, I mean, like you said, the damn
- 20:54Speaker 4: Achilles and all this coming back off of that, we.
- 20:57Speaker 3: Don't know what kind of, what player we getting. You
- 21:00Speaker 3: know what I mean?
- 21:01Speaker 4: So, I mean, that's a tough motherfucking injury, but I mean,
- 21:04Speaker 4: I mean, I just didn't understand this motherfucker. I just,
- 21:07Speaker 4: I thought he should have did more to keep the
- 21:09Speaker 4: kid around there with him. I mean, I felt like,
- 21:12Speaker 4: I mean, either however you want to put it, Batman
- 21:14Speaker 4: or Robin, whoever, whoever's who, but shit, Jaden Brown, he
- 21:19Speaker 4: shouldn't have. And then, and then, I mean, I just,
- 21:22Speaker 4: the way they did it and shit, all this shit,
- 21:24Speaker 4: you know what I mean? But I mean, like the kid, like,
- 21:27Speaker 4: I mean, he said he's free, so I'm happy for
- 21:29Speaker 4: the motherfucker.
- 21:30Speaker 3: He's free.
- 21:32Speaker 2: What'd you think about Giannis going to Miami?
- 21:34Speaker 4: I don't know what the fuck was going on with
- 21:36Speaker 4: all that shit right there. Giannis going to Miami. Giannis
- 21:38Speaker 4: going to go out there on the beach. Giannis going
- 21:42Speaker 4: to the motherfucker beach. Giannis going to go over that motherfucker,
- 21:46Speaker 4: what they call that Star Island motherfucker place over there.
- 21:48Speaker 3: One of the motherfuckers got that big old house over there.
- 21:50Speaker 3: Giannis been going to the beach all these niggas have quit.
- 21:54Speaker 2: I tell you this, though. People think they're going to
- 21:55Speaker 2: the beach. No, you're going to go play for the Heat.
- 21:57Speaker 2: One of my favorite details about the Heat is that
- 21:59Speaker 2: when they built that arena, and you can tell this
- 22:01Speaker 2: is a great idea that the architect had, is that
- 22:04Speaker 2: with the practice courts, that there are windows with views
- 22:08Speaker 2: of Biscayne Bay because that arena is right there on
- 22:10Speaker 2: the wall for people who don't know.
- 22:11Speaker 3: Right there.
- 22:12Speaker 2: And Pat Riley covered the windows all the way up
- 22:15Speaker 2: because it ain't no day at the beach, baby. You
- 22:17Speaker 2: coming to this motherfucker to grind. And Giannis seemed like
- 22:21Speaker 2: the perfect personality fit. And I feel like him and
- 22:23Speaker 2: Bam together is going to be a lot of defense
- 22:26Speaker 2: to be played. But I still don't have the greatest
- 22:28Speaker 2: idea about what it is after that.
- 22:30Speaker 4: Where the guards at? They got rid of Hero? I mean,
- 22:34Speaker 4: who the point guard and shit?
- 22:37Speaker 3: Mitchell? Yeah. I mean, okay, I like Mitchell, you know.
- 22:41Speaker 3: A guy coming off the bench.
- 22:44Speaker 4: You know, I mean, a dog, you know. No offense,
- 22:47Speaker 4: I love Mitchell, but I mean, he, I mean, damn, man.
- 22:50Speaker 4: I mean, who the shooting guard?
- 22:53Speaker 3: I mean, what we got? Who we got? They ain't
- 22:57Speaker 3: got to fill these holes. This motherfucker got to fill
- 23:00Speaker 3: these goddamn holes.
- 23:01Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what they got. Who they
- 23:04Speaker 4: got coming off the bench? I don't know what the
- 23:06Speaker 4: fuck they got. Who they got on their team anymore?
- 23:10Speaker 2: I feel bad for Hero. You know why I feel
- 23:13Speaker 2: bad for Hero? We talk about this a lot normally
- 23:18Speaker 2: with black players, where I call them they can't go back, right?
- 23:21Speaker 2: Where they done worked hard, they done everything they could
- 23:24Speaker 2: because they couldn't go back to the crib, right? They
- 23:26Speaker 2: did too much to go back to the crib. Tyler
- 23:29Speaker 2: Hero did too much to become the version of Tyler
- 23:32Speaker 2: Hero that he is. to go back to know Wisconsin, man.
- 23:35Speaker 2: He has no desire to go back to Wisconsin. He
- 23:37Speaker 2: got to go to dinner and act like he used
- 23:39Speaker 2: to act when he get around his parents. You know
- 23:41Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, he got to do all of that.
- 23:44Speaker 2: Everything that he has become, now he did not do
- 23:47Speaker 2: all this to go back. I said, when they were
- 23:48Speaker 2: talking about trading him to Utah, I was like, shit,
- 23:50Speaker 2: he'd have retired before he went back to Utah. He
- 23:53Speaker 2: ain't trying to be there. He would hate being in Utah, boy.
- 23:55Speaker 2: You would hate being in Utah.
- 23:56Speaker 3: Hell no, he ain't going to Utah.
- 23:58Speaker 2: Hell no.
- 23:59Speaker 3: Fuck no. Fuck no. Hell no.
- 24:03Speaker 4: Nobody want to go out to that national motherfucker.
- 24:05Speaker 3: Fuck Utah. Talk about them motherfuckers. Hell no, Monty. Did
- 24:11Speaker 3: you hear what he say? Utah.
- 24:14Speaker 2: Goddamn.
- 24:15Speaker 3: Why Utah come in all this shit? Fuck Utah, man.
- 24:18Speaker 3: Come on. You feel bad.
- 24:22Speaker 2: For Darren Peterson, man?
- 24:25Speaker 3: Yeah, shit. I mean, Darren, just stay in the gym, boy. Shit.
- 24:31Speaker 3: That's it. Stay in the gym.
- 24:34Speaker 2: You know what I appreciate, though, about Danny A? All
- 24:37Speaker 2: these cats trying to scare him off from drafting him,
- 24:40Speaker 2: and he's like, dude, nobody wants to come here. That's
- 24:43Speaker 2: why it's a drag.
- 24:45Speaker 3: Right, yeah. That motherfucker, Darren, ain't nothing to do out there, boy.
- 24:49Speaker 3: Just stay in the gym. You're going to be the
- 24:52Speaker 3: rookie of the year. A lot of rest. Showing the
- 24:58Speaker 3: video game.
- 24:59Speaker 4: And shit, I got you marked in.
- 25:02Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year already, my guy.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Shit.
- 25:07Speaker 3: Not bullshit.
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- 29:01Speaker 2: with Vernon Maxwell. And we had just mentioned Utah, and
- 29:04Speaker 2: I actually hadn't thought about this, but I wonder if
- 29:07Speaker 2: young people understand this, that Danny Ainge is a basketball player.
- 29:10Speaker 2: I mean, Danny Ainge played Major League Baseball. Danny Ainge
- 29:12Speaker 2: was an all-state football player in high school. But Danny
- 29:14Speaker 2: Ainge was a for real basketball player, but I hated
- 29:17Speaker 2: him so much. Like, he was the guy, like, there
- 29:20Speaker 2: was hating the Celtics, there was a bunch of white dudes,
- 29:22Speaker 2: and then it was hating Danny Ainge just because he
- 29:24Speaker 2: was Danny Ainge.
- 29:26Speaker 3: Dan Angelo's a dirty motherfucker, man. I'm trying to tell
- 29:28Speaker 3: you now.
- 29:28Speaker 4: Y'all be out here in that front office with all
- 29:30Speaker 4: this bullshit. Dan Angelo's a dog now. They better Google
- 29:34Speaker 4: that motherfucker.
- 29:35Speaker 3: He hit my man in the face with that damn basketball,
- 29:38Speaker 3: Mario Elliott. We were going to tear his ass up.
- 29:40Speaker 2: Oh, that's right.
- 29:41Speaker 3: We were going to fuck him up. We were going
- 29:44Speaker 3: to kick his ass up. We were going to fuck
- 29:46Speaker 3: him up.
- 29:47Speaker 4: But they lost the goddamn series. We were going to
- 29:49Speaker 4: get his motherfucking ass. We were going to ambush this motherfucker.
- 29:53Speaker 4: I don't think we were going to have enough players
- 29:55Speaker 4: to play in the motherfucking finals in the first couple
- 29:57Speaker 4: of games. We were going to tear his ass up Man,
- 30:01Speaker 4: we didn't like that. But yeah, but Odena is a
- 30:03Speaker 4: dirty motherfucker.
- 30:05Speaker 2: Tell us the thing about the Rockets, looking back on it.
- 30:08Speaker 2: Y'all have four dudes that I look at, like you, Ellie,
- 30:12Speaker 2: Akeem Olajuwon, and Otis Thorpe, that I'm like, I don't
- 30:15Speaker 2: think you really want problems with any of these four gentlemen.
- 30:17Speaker 3: Yes.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:19Speaker 3: But everybody say, everybody been looking at old Big Shot Rob,
- 30:22Speaker 3: like Big Shot Rob ain't going to do nothing. Rob,
- 30:24Speaker 3: tell your asser, Rob was a motherfucking fool too.
- 30:27Speaker 2: Rob threw that towel at Daddy H face that one time.
- 30:30Speaker 4: Come on, man.
- 30:31Speaker 3: Okay.
- 30:32Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Stop acting like Big Shot Rob.
- 30:35Speaker 4: Ain't no motherfucker fighting either now. Rob motherfucker shit.
- 30:39Speaker 3: And Sam I am. You know, this motherfucker, you know,
- 30:41Speaker 3: he from Baltimore.
- 30:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:43Speaker 3: You know, this motherfucker, he stay ready.
- 30:46Speaker 2: Robert Ory completely changed the course of his career for
- 30:50Speaker 2: the better by throwing that towel in Danny Ainge's face.
- 30:52Speaker 2: For people who don't know, Ory got traded to the
- 30:56Speaker 2: Suns in the Charles Barkley trade. And Danny Ainge was
- 30:59Speaker 2: the coach. Robert Ory got mad at him one day
- 31:02Speaker 2: and threw a towel in his face. And they traded
- 31:04Speaker 2: him two days later to the Lakers. And everything changed.
- 31:08Speaker 3: That was the best thing he said. That's what he said.
- 31:10Speaker 3: He was ready to do that.
- 31:14Speaker 4: He planned to do that shit. He said he He
- 31:16Speaker 4: said this motherfucker was playing with him like he was
- 31:19Speaker 4: a toy. This motherfucker said he got there. I said, Max,
- 31:22Speaker 4: I got tired of that motherfucker. I'm going to throw
- 31:24Speaker 4: that motherfucker straight in his face. And that motherfucker got
- 31:28Speaker 4: me straight up out to the lake. I said, God damn,
- 31:30Speaker 4: they gave you away too, baby boy. Yeah, that was
- 31:35Speaker 4: a hell of a move right there by Big Shot.
- 31:39Speaker 4: I tell you, man, some of these motherfucking places, you
- 31:41Speaker 4: got to get the fuck away from these motherfuckers because
- 31:43Speaker 4: they'll hold you down.
- 31:46Speaker 2: What you think about LeBron and where this is going
- 31:48Speaker 2: with him? Because this is my read. You tell me
- 31:50Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. I'm not the only person to say this.
- 31:53Speaker 2: But it's nice of the Lakers to let LeBron make
- 31:55Speaker 2: it seem like he made this decision. It does not
- 31:57Speaker 2: seem like he made this decision. It seemed like the
- 31:59Speaker 2: Lakers made this decision. And now, it's where does he
- 32:01Speaker 2: wind up going?
- 32:02Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, the Lakers made this motherfucker make this decision.
- 32:07Speaker 4: They gave Austin Reeves all that goddamn money. And so
- 32:11Speaker 4: it wasn't nothing. You know, but Brian, I guess he
- 32:14Speaker 4: was going to play for the minimum anyway.
- 32:15Speaker 3: I mean, like he said.
- 32:17Speaker 2: Yeah, but not for them.
- 32:18Speaker 3: Not for them.
- 32:19Speaker 4: You might have said not for them.
- 32:23Speaker 3: Not for them. Well, that's when they did that move
- 32:25Speaker 3: right there.
- 32:25Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. That's when his ass knew he
- 32:28Speaker 4: wasn't going to be in L.A. That's when he done
- 32:31Speaker 4: changed his residency back over there in Ohio. But I
- 32:35Speaker 4: think the place where he should go is, man, And
- 32:39Speaker 4: somebody had said this. I think you dump the nuggets.
- 32:48Speaker 4: I like to dump the nuggets over there with Jokic.
- 32:50Speaker 4: You ain't got to do all that motherfucking.
- 32:51Speaker 3: Hell on the ball.
- 32:52Speaker 4: You got Jokic over there looking for you, boy.
- 32:56Speaker 2: Now, you're a Jokic guy, right?
- 32:58Speaker 3: Yes, you're fucking right I am. Yes. All day long. Yes.
- 33:04Speaker 3: Fucking killer.
- 33:05Speaker 4: Can't jump over the fucking stack of bottles. But this
- 33:08Speaker 4: motherfucker is a killer.
- 33:10Speaker 3: I love it.
- 33:12Speaker 4: Amen.
- 33:12Speaker 2: Let me tell you, Jokic and LeBron, everybody's open all
- 33:15Speaker 2: the time.
- 33:16Speaker 3: Make them better.
- 33:16Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to say. Everybody's going to be better.
- 33:20Speaker 4: That's my case in point.
- 33:22Speaker 2: Everybody's going to be better.
- 33:24Speaker 3: And both of these motherfuckers are willing to pass. I mean,
- 33:27Speaker 3: they're willing to both of them. I mean, shit. I mean,
- 33:30Speaker 3: they just want somebody to move and get the cut
- 33:32Speaker 3: and get the fuck open. You know what I mean?
- 33:35Speaker 3: And both of them.
- 33:37Speaker 4: I mean, our cues are out the roof. So, I mean,
- 33:40Speaker 4: what are we talking about? Man, you playing with both
- 33:42Speaker 4: of these motherfuckers?
- 33:44Speaker 2: Well, I see people entertain the idea of him in Minnesota,
- 33:48Speaker 2: and I am intrigued by the Ant-Man-Lamello ball backcourt. I'm
- 33:51Speaker 2: not the biggest Lamello fan, but I also think that
- 33:54Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards is by far the best player that he
- 33:56Speaker 2: would have ever played with, right? And that's a couple
- 34:00Speaker 2: of big dudes in your backcourt.
- 34:02Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- 34:03Speaker 4: I wanted to see how that shit gonna end up
- 34:05Speaker 4: like that, them two. But I know it's going to be,
- 34:08Speaker 4: I know it's going to end up well because, you know,
- 34:10Speaker 4: Ant's such a real motherfucker. You know what I mean? And,
- 34:13Speaker 4: you know, I mean, so, and Mello, you know what
- 34:17Speaker 4: I mean? He's kind of the guy, he's a real
- 34:19Speaker 4: motherfucker too.
- 34:20Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Mello going to be Mello. Mello,
- 34:22Speaker 3: you know what I mean? He going to, I mean, I.
- 34:26Speaker 4: Think he had an exceptional year last year, man. Motherfucker,
- 34:29Speaker 4: he showed, I didn't think he was that good until.
- 34:33Speaker 3: Shit, I seen him. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. I thought
- 34:36Speaker 3: he was okay. I hadn't seen that shit when I
- 34:40Speaker 3: saw last year.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Now, you live in Charlotte, right?
- 34:42Speaker 3: Yeah, I live in Charlotte. Yeah. I saw this motherfucker.
- 34:45Speaker 3: This motherfucker. I like his, that motherfucker play.
- 34:49Speaker 4: I don't know where he get that damn jump shot from,
- 34:51Speaker 4: that one leg up in there with the kickstand shit, with.
- 34:54Speaker 3: The leg up in the air. I don't know where
- 34:56Speaker 3: he got that. He done perfected that shit. That shit big.
- 34:59Speaker 3: That shit, he shoots that shit deep. I mean, this motherfucker,
- 35:02Speaker 3: he got handles, he got vision. Man, that shit. Hey,
- 35:06Speaker 3: go ahead, Melo. Do your thing.
- 35:09Speaker 4: You got a lot of motherfuckers mad at these motherfuckers
- 35:11Speaker 4: around here in the shout-out horns front office. These motherfuckers mad, boy.
- 35:16Speaker 4: They ain't want you to be out of here, man.
- 35:18Speaker 4: But yeah, man, good luck, Melo, man. That motherfucker, he different.
- 35:22Speaker 4: I like this guy, too.
- 35:23Speaker 3: Shit.
- 35:24Speaker 2: Well, tell me this. If LeBron were to wind up
- 35:27Speaker 2: in Cleveland, how much better do you think that that
- 35:29Speaker 2: makes them? Because my feeling has always been Cleveland's issue
- 35:32Speaker 2: is Evan Mobley and Jared Allen are both really good,
- 35:35Speaker 2: but I don't feel like you can play them together
- 35:37Speaker 2: because they're both tall, but they're not big, right? Like,
- 35:40Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like LeBron answers the questions they have,
- 35:43Speaker 2: on top of the fact that if you got James Harden,
- 35:46Speaker 2: you're going to lose the last game of the year,
- 35:47Speaker 2: and he's going to play terrible.
- 35:49Speaker 4: Man, you got two big motherfuckers down there, Evan Mobley
- 35:52Speaker 4: and Jared, man.
- 35:53Speaker 3: Them motherfuckers down there. They don't even talk. I mean,
- 35:56Speaker 3: them motherfuckers are dying now.
- 35:57Speaker 4: They don't even got us being able to say something.
- 36:01Speaker 4: Them motherfuckers don't even want to open their goddamn mouth.
- 36:03Speaker 4: I mean, so, I mean, why them motherfuckers got to go?
- 36:07Speaker 4: But I just, I mean, Donovan Mitchell, man, I mean, shit.
- 36:11Speaker 3: I mean, I like him, man.
- 36:14Speaker 4: Harden, I don't, I mean, I just, I don't think
- 36:19Speaker 4: if Bron go there, they ain't gonna, they're gonna do
- 36:21Speaker 4: the same shit, probably what they did this year. You know,
- 36:24Speaker 4: dang on, hang on. I don't think, Brian need to
- 36:27Speaker 4: go somewhere where he know he gonna be in the
- 36:29Speaker 4: thick of things next year. When the mother fucking rubber
- 36:33Speaker 4: get ready to hit the road, when the Western Conference
- 36:38Speaker 4: finals are, I think, or the Eastern Conference finals, he
- 36:41Speaker 4: need to be on a team like that.
- 36:44Speaker 3: So, you know what I mean?
- 36:45Speaker 4: I mean, he said shit, it ain't about the money now,
- 36:48Speaker 4: since he ain't in LA now, so it ain't about
- 36:50Speaker 4: the money no more. So you're going to tell you,
- 36:52Speaker 4: I want to see if this motherfucker going to take
- 36:53Speaker 4: the minimum. I don't think he is. Ron ain't going
- 36:55Speaker 4: to take it right now. Got to give Ron $ 15 million.
- 36:58Speaker 4: I really should. You better get your motherfuckers. Some of
- 37:02Speaker 4: them motherfuckers better take some pay cuts. You ain't going
- 37:07Speaker 4: to give Ron $ 15 million.
- 37:09Speaker 3: Fuck that.
- 37:10Speaker 2: You ever think you would live long enough where we
- 37:12Speaker 2: would talk about $ 15 million as an insult to anybody?
- 37:15Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to tell you. I don't want
- 37:17Speaker 4: to talk about that this weekend.
- 37:19Speaker 3: This is crazy.
- 37:20Speaker 4: The goddamn, oh, Lord. I mean, I'm talking about these
- 37:23Speaker 4: boys make so much money, 50 million.
- 37:26Speaker 3: Shit. And then off the court with the sneakers and shit. Goddamn. Like, goddamn,
- 37:30Speaker 3: that's what they doing now?
- 37:32Speaker 2: Hey, do you remember that time that for a brief moment,
- 37:34Speaker 2: John Hot Rod Williams was the highest paid player in
- 37:37Speaker 2: the NBA? Yes, for people who don't know, John Hot
- 37:40Speaker 2: Rod Williams, just like Steve Harvey, he got a deal
- 37:42Speaker 2: at the right time for $ 3 million a year.
- 37:44Speaker 3: Yeah, $ 3 million.
- 37:46Speaker 2: But that was the way. These cats are making $ 3
- 37:48Speaker 2: million a year.
- 37:48Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We thought that motherfucker was the richest
- 37:51Speaker 3: motherfucker in America. That motherfucker making $ 3 million a year. Goddamn.
- 37:57Speaker 3: I said, goddamn that motherfucker.
- 37:58Speaker 4: They don't pay you this motherfucker. But, boy, now, ain't
- 38:01Speaker 4: this crazy, man? This shit is– I love it, though, man.
- 38:04Speaker 4: These kids, man, I mean– I mean, shit, more power
- 38:07Speaker 4: to them, man. We paid the way for these motherfuckers.
- 38:09Speaker 4: I mean, I'm happy for them, man. Goddamn, get that bread, man.
- 38:12Speaker 4: Take care of your mom and dad.
- 38:14Speaker 3: Shit, damn, get that money. No doubt. I love it.
- 38:18Speaker 2: Well, I tell you, we haven't talked to you in
- 38:19Speaker 2: a while, so we can bring this back here. What
- 38:22Speaker 2: did you think about the Spurs and the Knicks in
- 38:24Speaker 2: the finals?
- 38:25Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
- 38:26Speaker 4: The Spurs, dumbass, man. Them motherfuckers so goddamn dumb, man.
- 38:30Speaker 4: Them motherfuckers gave away that goddamn series, man. Lost me
- 38:34Speaker 4: a goddamn bunch of money, too. But the motherfuckers, they
- 38:37Speaker 4: got them. Man, them motherfuckers gave them boys a goddamn series, man.
- 38:41Speaker 3: Them motherfuckers, every game they lost, man, they supposed to win.
- 38:44Speaker 3: What the fuck, man?
- 38:45Speaker 4: This shit is crazy, man. I've never seen no dumb
- 38:47Speaker 4: shit like that in my life, man. I mean, but man,
- 38:51Speaker 4: I mean, I really ain't going to say nothing.
- 38:54Speaker 3: Damn, man, come on.
- 38:56Speaker 4: Fox, man, you got to do better, man. I know
- 38:59Speaker 4: your daddy, man. I mean, I'm going to leave it
- 39:03Speaker 4: like that.
- 39:04Speaker 3: I know your daddy.
- 39:04Speaker 4: And I ain't going to say nothing. I'm not going
- 39:09Speaker 4: to say nothing.
- 39:11Speaker 2: But I figure you got to love Brunson, huh?
- 39:13Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Yeah.
- 39:15Speaker 4: Like my man say, my man Big Perk call him,
- 39:18Speaker 4: Big Body Brunson. Yeah, I love that motherfucker. Yeah, his
- 39:22Speaker 4: daddy taught him how to play off the two feet.
- 39:25Speaker 4: All that feet work shit.
- 39:26Speaker 3: Now that's the data. my nigga. He taught him that.
- 39:31Speaker 3: That's his daddy.
- 39:33Speaker 4: Well, I ain't going to put the nigga in the
- 39:37Speaker 4: category of big body.
- 39:38Speaker 3: But his daddy used to play like that. You know,
- 39:43Speaker 3: off of two feet like that.
- 39:44Speaker 4: Back in the day, I was wondering, why this nigga
- 39:46Speaker 4: stopping in the lane like that with two feet? And
- 39:48Speaker 4: I ain't just exploding up with one leg, off one
- 39:50Speaker 4: leg and shit. This nigga playing off two feet. And
- 39:53Speaker 4: I said, God damn it. But I mean, he was
- 39:55Speaker 4: crafty with it though. And that's the way he taught
- 39:58Speaker 4: his son.
- 39:58Speaker 3: But I mean, shit. Brunson, man. Woo.
- 40:03Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think he's the fastest guy in
- 40:05Speaker 4: the league and he don't jump the highs.
- 40:08Speaker 3: I mean, but motherfucker mentally, man, he's a motherfucker killer.
- 40:14Speaker 4: That's where I be saying, that's the time where I
- 40:17Speaker 4: be saying, This shit be, it be your mental over athletics.
- 40:22Speaker 4: You know, it be your mental stage now, motherfucker, because
- 40:25Speaker 4: that's what this motherfucker, he mentally driven strong, boy. This
- 40:29Speaker 4: motherfucker just don't want to lose. You can see that
- 40:32Speaker 4: shit in the goddamn finals.
- 40:34Speaker 3: That motherfucker wheeled away. He all the way to that shit.
- 40:39Speaker 3: That shit. Jalen, boy, you did a great job, boy.
- 40:43Speaker 4: Goddamn, boy, that motherfucker, that motherfucker. I mean, that motherfucker's
- 40:46Speaker 4: a killer, man. I just can't say enough about it, man.
- 40:49Speaker 4: I mean, I just didn't see all that shit. I
- 40:52Speaker 4: didn't see that when he was coming from Dallas. I
- 40:56Speaker 4: just didn't see it. Goddamn, I understand it now. I
- 41:02Speaker 4: understand this shit now.
- 41:04Speaker 3: Shit, it's crazy.
- 41:06Speaker 2: You mentioned Fox with the Spurs. Are they going to
- 41:09Speaker 2: have to do the uncomfortable thing and just wind up
- 41:11Speaker 2: putting him on the bench at some point because Harper's
- 41:13Speaker 2: just going to take it from him?
- 41:14Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, I don't know if I would
- 41:17Speaker 4: just try to like, I mean, pops, I'm sorry, man, shit.
- 41:22Speaker 3: I just have to get rid of it. You know,
- 41:26Speaker 3: I would get rid of it.
- 41:27Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if it's able or are
- 41:29Speaker 4: they able to because I think he make a lot
- 41:31Speaker 4: of money, man. I think he make a lot of
- 41:34Speaker 4: goddamn money. I might be mistaken. Somebody said this motherfucker
- 41:39Speaker 4: made over half a billion dollars. Since he's been in
- 41:42Speaker 4: the NBA, I'm like, God damn, he don't made all
- 41:43Speaker 4: that motherfucking money like that. So, but I think Spurs
- 41:50Speaker 4: got to cut ties with him, man, because, I mean,
- 41:52Speaker 4: what happened, man? And then after that, man, then, I mean,
- 41:55Speaker 4: just trying to go and make the shot. That was,
- 41:57Speaker 4: first of all, that was, I mean, you was a
- 42:00Speaker 4: point guard all your life. And you're supposed to be
- 42:04Speaker 4: the extension of the fucking coach. I mean, you got
- 42:07Speaker 4: to know you can't go in there and run this
- 42:09Speaker 4: motherfucking clock on that. even if he dribbled it all
- 42:12Speaker 4: around through. But that was just, it was just crazy. But,
- 42:16Speaker 4: I mean, then after that, he just was no more good.
- 42:18Speaker 3: I mean, but, I mean, I mean, for him, for
- 42:22Speaker 3: his sake, I want to get the fuck out of there, too.
- 42:26Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Because I be feeling like
- 42:28Speaker 3: I'm looking old mother. So, these motherfuckers, man.
- 42:32Speaker 4: These motherfuckers looking at, I mean, I just want to
- 42:35Speaker 4: feel comfortable over that motherfucker.
- 42:36Speaker 3: I know you got to understand.
- 42:37Speaker 4: Everybody talking about that kid, you know. All outside the
- 42:42Speaker 4: damn gym, all inside, in the front office. I mean, shit,
- 42:46Speaker 4: they got to goddamn get out, just get rid of,
- 42:49Speaker 4: get that motherfucker out of there. And it's hard for,
- 42:52Speaker 4: it's dealing hard for time now. That motherfucker is a killer.
- 42:57Speaker 4: I mean, Ron Harper, I see Ron over there smiling
- 43:00Speaker 4: like a motherfucker.
- 43:01Speaker 3: That motherfucker came up, my motherfucker boy. Kill him.
- 43:05Speaker 4: Kill him, nigga.
- 43:07Speaker 3: I know half of it. I know my guy. That's
- 43:09Speaker 3: my guy, man. I know he's always happy. Yeah, man.
- 43:13Speaker 3: Done well with his sons, too.
- 43:16Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 43:16Speaker 2: Both of them.
- 43:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 43:18Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. Last thing before we get out
- 43:20Speaker 2: of here. Is this about to be Victor Wynn-Bagnama's league
- 43:24Speaker 2: starting next year?
- 43:26Speaker 3: Yeah. He mad as fuck right now this summer, see?
- 43:28Speaker 4: Now, that's a motherfucker right there, man. You talking about
- 43:32Speaker 4: getting better from the next year to the next year?
- 43:35Speaker 4: You see what he did from his rookie to this
- 43:37Speaker 4: second year. Now, watch this jump this motherfucker's going to
- 43:40Speaker 4: do now. He's so angry because, you know, this motherfucker, now,
- 43:44Speaker 4: he hate to lose. Now, this motherfucker here, he really
- 43:49Speaker 4: hate to lose. Man, he going to come back. He
- 43:52Speaker 4: finna go to that damn, what is that, that damn
- 43:54Speaker 4: voodoo shit, that Buddhist, the monks and all that shit.
- 43:57Speaker 4: He finna go over there with them damn people. And
- 44:00Speaker 4: he finna go over there and he will come at
- 44:01Speaker 4: that motherfucker and he finna be so strong. And watch
- 44:04Speaker 4: how this motherfucker be, man. Because he know he got
- 44:06Speaker 4: to get stronger. He know what he got to do.
- 44:09Speaker 4: Because he done been all the way where he need
- 44:11Speaker 4: to go now. He done seen it all to the
- 44:13Speaker 4: top where you got it. This is what you need
- 44:15Speaker 4: to do.
- 44:16Speaker 3: And he understand.
- 44:17Speaker 4: Because that's a smart motherfucker. He understand what he need
- 44:20Speaker 4: to do for himself to be the best. And he
- 44:24Speaker 4: finna be the face of the motherfucking NBA. These motherfuckers
- 44:27Speaker 4: better get ready. The Frenchman. Is that why I can
- 44:31Speaker 4: call him a Frenchman?
- 44:32Speaker 2: You can do that. You can do that.
- 44:34Speaker 3: Yeah, the Frenchman is going to take over this one.
- 44:37Speaker 2: Now, do you think they need to go get him
- 44:39Speaker 2: some muscle, though?
- 44:41Speaker 3: Yeah, he got to get stronger. Just like Giannis got stronger.
- 44:47Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
- 44:47Speaker 4: Giannis was skinny and shit like that. But he got
- 44:50Speaker 4: to put on something. He got to get stronger.
- 44:52Speaker 3: His shoulders got to get stronger. So.
- 44:56Speaker 2: No, but I mean somebody else to do the muscling. Like,
- 44:59Speaker 2: he shouldn't have to.
- 44:59Speaker 3: Be able to do it himself.
- 45:02Speaker 4: But still, his ass still got to get strong, though,
- 45:04Speaker 4: because he got to be able to get down to
- 45:06Speaker 4: the spot where, like, when we need a bucket.
- 45:08Speaker 3: Your ass is 7'4.
- 45:10Speaker 4: I don't want you out here, out here at the
- 45:12Speaker 4: three-point line, motherfucker, where you got a 6'4 motherfucker out here,
- 45:16Speaker 4: 6'6 motherfucker out here. That's what they used to do,
- 45:20Speaker 4: slide their motherfucking feet. Yeah, the motherfucker's going to stand
- 45:23Speaker 4: in front of you and make.
- 45:23Speaker 3: It tough for you.
- 45:25Speaker 4: That's why we got to do all this dumb shit.
- 45:27Speaker 4: Let's go back to like A, B, C, D, E, F, G.
- 45:31Speaker 4: This shit can be easy. Walk this motherfucker down to
- 45:33Speaker 4: the block, man. Turn your big ass around now. Post
- 45:37Speaker 4: this motherfucker up and don't hit this motherfucker with one
- 45:39Speaker 4: of them moves. You ain't got to do nothing. Just
- 45:41Speaker 4: dunk on this motherfucker. Now they got to, I mean,
- 45:44Speaker 4: he got to be strong, man. Well, he can't just be,
- 45:47Speaker 4: he's playing to these motherfucking little guards to what they
- 45:51Speaker 4: good at doing. I mean, I mean, this motherfucker used
- 45:54Speaker 4: to slide on his feet out there.
- 45:55Speaker 3: That's what he got. Six, six, six, five motherfuckers guarding
- 45:58Speaker 3: him out there. But I mean, who? Like, this motherfucker
- 46:01Speaker 3: is seven. What? And why the fuck he way out there?
- 46:05Speaker 4: Instead of getting out on that block and just throwing
- 46:07Speaker 4: that bitch up there to him and let him just
- 46:08Speaker 4: go ahead and drop that.
- 46:09Speaker 3: Bitch in there?
- 46:11Speaker 4: I just don't understand what's going on, man. I mean,
- 46:13Speaker 4: and that goddamn coach from San Antonio, too.
- 46:16Speaker 3: He got to go.
- 46:17Speaker 4: I love black men coaching. Goddamn, that boy done did
- 46:20Speaker 4: some dumb shit in that goddamn finals.
- 46:21Speaker 3: You hear me? Now, that is not being talked about. Now, shit.
- 46:28Speaker 4: Now, that's the real, that's what I want to say.
- 46:30Speaker 4: They ain't talking about nobody talking about him. But that nigga,
- 46:34Speaker 4: he got to be held accountable for that shit he
- 46:36Speaker 4: done too, man. Because you got to make a, you
- 46:39Speaker 4: got to change up that motherfucking lineup, man. Get that
- 46:43Speaker 4: goddamn boy Hop in there, man. You know that man,
- 46:45Speaker 4: that goddamn, that man froze up, man. That man, I
- 46:49Speaker 4: think the motherfucker went in there and tried to make
- 46:51Speaker 4: that goddamn shot and the man blocked the shit, man.
- 46:54Speaker 4: And then he was done after that, man. Put that
- 46:56Speaker 4: man in the goddamn line up. You gonna come back
- 46:59Speaker 4: and start this man back again. And this man running
- 47:02Speaker 4: shit for him. Right out the gate, running shit for him.
- 47:05Speaker 4: Think he gonna come out and just want the crowd
- 47:07Speaker 4: to get behind.
- 47:08Speaker 3: Man, that man was done, man. Show ass, man. Show
- 47:10Speaker 3: ass out of there too. I don't even know what
- 47:13Speaker 3: was his damn name. I don't even know.
- 47:15Speaker 2: Mitch Johnson. I ain't tell you this though, they would've
- 47:17Speaker 2: got Billy Donovan. They went and got Billy Donovan to
- 47:19Speaker 2: be the lead assistant, which to me, he's the lead
- 47:22Speaker 2: assistant and the prospective interim coach. That's it.
- 47:25Speaker 3: That's it. That's it.
- 47:26Speaker 4: Because that shit he did, boy, that was crazy, too. Man,
- 47:30Speaker 4: you got to make that decision, man. I mean, it's
- 47:33Speaker 4: not even a tough motherfucking decision. If all those motherfuckers
- 47:37Speaker 4: out here without goddamn doing what I'm doing, sitting on
- 47:40Speaker 4: the couch and looking at this shit and saying, well, damn,
- 47:44Speaker 4: is he going to start this boy here, this game,
- 47:46Speaker 4: or he going to start the Fox. This motherfucker came
- 47:50Speaker 4: back with Fox. I said, well, this motherfucker can't coach.
- 47:53Speaker 3: Fox was done.
- 47:55Speaker 4: He was motherfucking done, my money, after he motherfucking got
- 47:57Speaker 4: that shit blocked and fucked up that game. And then
- 48:00Speaker 4: the shit he said after the game, that shit was
- 48:02Speaker 4: fucked up. I was like, oh, man, well, you know,
- 48:06Speaker 4: we're going to come back. We're going to learn from it.
- 48:12Speaker 3: I said, what the fuck is this boy just saying?
- 48:17Speaker 4: I say, man, these boys, man. See, a motherfucker, somebody
- 48:21Speaker 4: back would have got dirt in that motherfucker. You can't
- 48:25Speaker 4: be in there taking that shit for granted like that, man.
- 48:27Speaker 4: You know how hard it is.
- 48:28Speaker 3: To get back to that motherfucker, man. You got to be.
- 48:31Speaker 3: You got to say something, man. Say something, man.
- 48:36Speaker 2: Goddamn.
- 48:38Speaker 3: I mean, come on, man.
- 48:40Speaker 4: These kids these days, man, they don't understand, man.
- 48:43Speaker 3: You might not never get back to that motherfucker. I'm
- 48:47Speaker 3: just telling you, it's going to be hard, man, to
- 48:48Speaker 3: get to that finals. NBA finals? Shit. All right. Keep
- 48:53Speaker 3: taking that shit for granted. It's going to be hard,
- 48:54Speaker 3: but I'm just saying, man, it's hard.
- 48:58Speaker 2: Hey, man. Vernon Maxwell, I see you got all the
- 49:00Speaker 2: Florida gear back. I'm glad you and the university got
- 49:03Speaker 2: everything back right.
- 49:04Speaker 3: Yeah, them motherfuckers, they did the right thing. Hey, shout
- 49:07Speaker 3: out to the Gator. Hey, baby Gator. Hey, baby Gator.
- 49:10Speaker 4: They put me back in there, but hey, like I said,
- 49:12Speaker 4: it all started with you.
- 49:14Speaker 3: Hey, you was a part of this, brother.
- 49:17Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm glad I could help. And like my brother,
- 49:20Speaker 2: favorite moment, you and Floyd, they always talk about that
- 49:21Speaker 2: time you buzzed Alec Kessler in the face and then
- 49:23Speaker 2: ran off the court like somebody was going to take
- 49:26Speaker 2: you out.
- 49:27Speaker 1: Yes.
- 49:28Speaker 4: Tell him to stop talking about that. Like Dwayne told me,
- 49:31Speaker 4: you might as well stop talking about the slap.
- 49:33Speaker 3: No, tell him to stop talking about that.
- 49:37Speaker 2: Just saying, man.
- 49:38Speaker 3: You stole off all of your rent. I did, but
- 49:40Speaker 3: sex helped, though. That's right. That's right. You got to
- 49:44Speaker 3: tell him. Tell him, bro. I'll say what's up, too. Say, man.
- 49:47Speaker 3: Tell him, bro. I'll say what's up, man.
- 49:48Speaker 2: Check him out on All the Smoke, my brother. I
- 49:50Speaker 2: appreciate you.
- 49:51Speaker 3: I appreciate you, man. Much love, Manu. You know that
- 49:53Speaker 3: all the time, man.
- 49:54Speaker 2: Thank you, man. Thank you, brother. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks
- 49:56Speaker 2: so much for joining us here on The Right Time.
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