Latest / The Chris and Mike Show / #191 - The Dynamics of Conversation
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- 0:06Right. And we're live.
- 0:09We're alive, boys and girls. If you didn't know that.
- 0:12Here we are. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 0:28Oh. Glitch.
- 0:29Now this will be interesting. It's still at 39% Man what
- 0:58I really don't understand why the Internet?
- 1:02It just doesn't like you for some reason I don't understand.
- 1:05It's irrational. It's ridiculous because I re.
- 1:10I restart. Well, since it's just you and I,
- 1:14we're going to play a game here. So right now I'm on, I'm on the
- 1:20Starlink, one of the stuff you noticed.
- 1:22You have something else going on.
- 1:24What does it normally have? Oh, there it went away.
- 1:26It's 2 Starlinks. Oh, 'cause you're switching, I
- 1:28get it. It's thinking.
- 1:30It's thinking. He was having constant trying to
- 1:36recognize too, which is unusual. Trying to reconnect.
- 1:39OK, so I went to the other Starlink so let's see what
- 1:43happens there. Can you see me now or am I
- 1:49frozen still? Well, let's see, you're kind of
- 1:55like a robot. OK, robot.
- 1:57So we're going to go to the other one.
- 2:00Actually, Cox actually really like a robot.
- 2:05Now you're frozen. You.
- 2:07Want to be a free man? Just frozen in time, I guess
- 2:16this is a good time to tell you all that were brought to you by
- 2:19Riverside FM, the only place for your podcast platforms and all
- 2:26other things. Yeah, now he's gone.
- 2:29It's just me. Here we are in my studio, we're
- 2:34connected, and we're uploaded to 98 percent, 99%.
- 2:42He lives in a city of like 3 million people, and I live in
- 2:47the middle of a cornfield basically, and I'm the one that
- 2:50stays connected. It's fascinating.
- 2:55It's a testament to fiber optic networks.
- 2:58So shout out to Pavlov Media. Congratulations for keeping me
- 3:02connected for almost 200 episodes now.
- 3:06Well, 150 because the reason I switched was DSL wasn't cutting
- 3:11it. He's on cable and Starlink,
- 3:15which Starlink is supposed to be the be all end all of satellite
- 3:19Internet, right? And in his case, it's just not
- 3:22the case. I have no idea.
- 3:28It says it asks me if I want more streaming power to upgrade,
- 3:31whatever that means, and if that's.
- 3:37Only for changing the resolution.
- 3:42So right now when we upload to YouTube where it's 720.
- 3:45Oh, right on. And if we upgrade, we can go to
- 3:491080, which is HD. So we're recording not in HD I
- 3:53guess is the point. Yeah, and I'm at, I'm at 15%
- 3:57upload, so it's still slower than shit.
- 3:58I need to call Cox. Maybe they need to like reset
- 4:02the cache because you know, every now and then they do
- 4:06something on there and they reset everything.
- 4:09But I don't know. I don't know.
- 4:10It's, it's fucking stupid 15% man.
- 4:14Well, that's what I was saying when you were gone.
- 4:16Like you live in a city of 3 million people and I basically
- 4:19live in the middle of a cornfield, right?
- 4:22You would think it would be reversed, right?
- 4:25I yeah, you would think, man, I don't get it at all.
- 4:29And it's, and it's been happening a lot lately.
- 4:31Usually when it's just you and I, I don't have problems.
- 4:34Usually when it's just you and I, I'm styling.
- 4:36Yeah, you know, styling, styling.
- 4:40I'm going to try this one. Let's see what happens.
- 4:44This is a Verizon. This is like a third generation
- 4:47backup just to have it. Can I have more experiment while
- 4:50we have time here? For sure.
- 4:57It is hard to have a podcast. If nothing came.
- 5:00Nothing with the other person for sure.
- 5:05You're there now. I'm there now, OK?
- 5:08Yeah, now you're back. OK.
- 5:09Is he, is it back strong? My back strong.
- 5:15Yeah, your audio's good. Yeah, you're.
- 5:19Oh, there. Now your video cleaned up, too.
- 5:24Oh, now I have no audio at all. Oh, now I have no Chris.
- 5:30Yeah, that one worked good for a second, but then it kind of
- 5:34petered out real quick, which is unfortunate because I think that
- 5:40was the best version of the three.
- 5:43And I'm going to sneeze hopefully not, because usually I
- 5:50have about 15 in a row, so we'll hope that doesn't happen.
- 5:56Maybe I need some water because coffee makes you dehydrated for
- 6:01sure. That still fascinates me that he
- 6:08has three choices and not one of them is capable of uploading.
- 6:16Well let's see now he's texting us so unable to connect we're
- 6:24having issues reaching out our server.
- 6:28Please verify your Internet connection is stable and you
- 6:30don't have any firewall VPN blocking the connection to
- 6:33Riverside. Probably going to have to try
- 6:38and restart your computer again I would guess.
- 6:46Let me e-mail him here real quick.
- 6:55Yeah, that's very frustrating when you can't stay connected
- 6:59and you're trying to do a podcast from almost 2000 miles
- 7:02away. But when in doubt, the only
- 7:08thing I know how to do is restart the computer or reach
- 7:11out to tech support, and that's going to take a minute.
- 7:14So we'll let him try and restart and figure out what is going on
- 7:20with his connection. I just don't understand.
- 7:29Like I said, the only thing that I can say is that's a testament
- 7:32to fiber optic. Hey peace peace.
- 7:43This is going to be a cluster fuck of a show man, I can just
- 7:46tell. Makes people laugh, Yeah.
- 7:50Oh, look at them having problems, right?
- 7:52See. They have problems.
- 7:53We do have problems. Just like the rest of us.
- 7:57Well, I'm here briefly, so we got some cool people coming up
- 7:59on the show, cool people coming up.
- 8:02Don Warnock is coming on Tuesday.
- 8:04Good old DW we love, we love Don's away.
- 8:07Cool. Hi Don.
- 8:09And then Sean Martin, the second episode is coming on.
- 8:12We love 17th. Then we have Phillip, some guy
- 8:18named Philip. I can't read his last name.
- 8:19Coming on the 21st now. My, my handwriting.
- 8:25Oh, is that? Who's the fuck is that?
- 8:27My handwriting sucks, man. Nico.
- 8:29Nico Federer. I think I have to say that.
- 8:30Necco Federal, He's one of Beverly Brock's.
- 8:32Yeah, he's one of Beverly Brock's.
- 8:34Dude, he's coming on the end of the month.
- 8:36And so Jeff, he's. Going to be a good story too
- 8:38after reading his bio. Yeah, so Jeff Norman, the the,
- 8:40the dad joke, I was rescheduled from the 3rd to 24th and just
- 8:45sent me a message saying that you look kind of do a Sunday.
- 8:48Like, no, dude, you can't do a Sunday.
- 8:49So I'm probably going to, we're just going to cross him off the
- 8:52list. And you know, sorry, not sorry.
- 8:55He was, he'd be funny as hell, but he's just, he just keeps,
- 8:58you know, so we need to, we need to get another guest for 24th
- 9:00and I'm working on May right now.
- 9:01I haven't been very diligent in booking May.
- 9:03I'm sorry. I got, I got I'll turn emails
- 9:07out, but I don't have May's a blank canvas right now.
- 9:10It's a blank canvas. Nobody wants to come on the
- 9:13show. We just had some, we just had
- 9:15some people reach out, so. Yeah, you should do that.
- 9:19Let's do that here. Let's go.
- 9:20Let's. Let's get rid of this.
- 9:22Could be fun to do. Let's see if I can make this
- 9:24happen, Captain. Make it happen, Captain.
- 9:28Well, and the other cool thing is in the last 10 days, somehow
- 9:31we picked up almost 30 more countries. 30 more countries.
- 9:33You know why? I haven't even oh, told you what
- 9:39the last one or the last count was.
- 9:42I think it was 63. So.
- 9:47Sandy Martin just that's not counting our website.
- 9:51Yeah, 63 Cool. And another interesting fact is
- 9:57forever Austria was our second most listened to country, right?
- 10:00They they flip-flopped with Canada every now and then.
- 10:04Now Vietnam holds almost 5%. They just shot up to somebody in
- 10:09Vietnam really likes the show. So shout out to Vietnam.
- 10:13You're now #2 in the world listening to the Chris and Mike
- 10:16show. That's a fact.
- 10:17Austria's three-step up your game.
- 10:20Yeah, so, so Sandy Martin just chimed back.
- 10:25OK. So I'm going to I'm chiming back
- 10:30to her to see if if she is Sean Martin or not because that would
- 10:37be weird to have two Martins on the same day.
- 10:42And sometimes dudes are named Sandy, as we know and.
- 10:44While the picture is a Jew is a chick.
- 10:48Oh, there's a total chick. The plot thickens, Yeah.
- 10:52Are you sure it's not him with I?
- 10:53Don't know dude, it looks like a chick man.
- 10:55I'm going to I'm going to see if I can do this is kind of cool.
- 10:57This is kind of like, you know, going there.
- 11:00OK, so so this is an e-mail. Can you see this?
- 11:03This is from Marion about a Beroshina.
- 11:07So OK, this is somebody who wants to come on the show,
- 11:12Deborah Yeager, who is a Co founder of Yeager training and
- 11:18an NLP master trainer. The cool thing about NLP it has
- 11:23something to do with language and how what kind of language?
- 11:25I, I looked into it before. It's, it's how to use words.
- 11:31I don't want to say manipulate, but it's how to use words to,
- 11:33to, to just weave your way through conversations to, to
- 11:38kind of, you know, get people like, like, OK, Jim Jones really
- 11:43good at NLP, right? Sociopaths, people like that
- 11:48never agreed with his policies, but Obama was a great freaking
- 11:52speaker could captivate a crowd. So was Clinton.
- 11:55So they they had that kind of that NLP type stuff.
- 12:00Good at getting people to do what you want by not making them
- 12:03angry and using effective language.
- 12:06Right. Yeah, so.
- 12:08So this person was wanting to come on the show, which is kind
- 12:13of cool. That would be an right, right?
- 12:14That'd be an awesome. Conversation for sure.
- 12:16Just reply. Let's let's go ahead and get her
- 12:21scheduled for May. There you go, folks.
- 12:24This is how it's done. This is how guests are booked on
- 12:27the podcast. This is a live representation of
- 12:30what Chris does. Right.
- 12:32Behind the scenes every week. Right, right.
- 12:38That that is cool, yeah. It is kind of cool this.
- 12:41Is literally how it's done. Hey, sure, we would love to have
- 12:45you on, right? And it's nice that they reach
- 12:47out to us. Yeah, that's been great.
- 12:51We've had some really cool people reaching out lately and
- 12:54we appreciate that and whatever rabbit hole we fell into that
- 12:57all these countries found us welcome.
- 12:59Yeah, couple days as we do have emails out.
- 13:08So basically, you know, we just say that we this is when we do
- 13:11it. This is this is when we record.
- 13:15Come back and give me some days and we'll get you dialed in.
- 13:18Now. Now the other cool thing.
- 13:22And it's adorable that he includes me in the e-mail,
- 13:24ladies and gentlemen. But most of the time you were
- 13:26talking to him. But I do appreciate being
- 13:28included. Yeah, you are.
- 13:29Mostly talking to me, you know, Mostly talking to me.
- 13:34Where's. That's the musician's emails.
- 13:38Oh, Dave New. I got Dave.
- 13:38Where do you get Dave Newto back, man?
- 13:42Oh yeah, I was just thinking about that last week.
- 13:44Yeah, I'd love to talk to him again because he's he just made
- 13:46a move to Boise if I. Remember, did it right.
- 13:50And his Yeah, because I think his career seems to be on an
- 13:52upward trend. So congratulations on that.
- 13:55He's got some good gigs lined up.
- 13:56Because of us. 100%. 100%. I think he would let us take
- 14:06full credit. He's just that guy guy.
- 14:08Well, the Lord of the Devil, man, once, once we found that
- 14:11song and that was it, man. That was it.
- 14:13It's like it's. Time.
- 14:14I'm not denying that he's out there doing the work.
- 14:16Either no, absolutely not. He's definitely.
- 14:18Holding up his end of the. Bar for sure.
- 14:22So this is kind of cool too. So if you'll see if you're
- 14:26seeing this boys and girls, I copy and paste to save time.
- 14:30So this is reaching out to somebody to come on the show.
- 14:33We have two emails we sent out one's regular guest and one is a
- 14:40musical guest. So this is a regular guest.
- 14:42So it's like join. Oh, that's what I I forgot to
- 14:48copy this piece. Whoops.
- 14:50Don't do that. Did I just do that?
- 14:51I did not do that. OK, come on.
- 14:55I'll spell today, man. Now what the hell was this?
- 15:02His typing brain is not working. How?
- 15:04Was this guy's name? This is Dean.
- 15:06Hello, Dean. This came from Beverly Brock.
- 15:09Nice. So thank you, Beverly.
- 15:12So shout out. Sending and then this is going
- 15:15to be Travis. Travis, come on now, Chris,
- 15:23Chris and Kristen makes you. This is such boring podcasting
- 15:28right now. People like what the fuck are
- 15:30you doing man? It's not what I want to see.
- 15:33You have no idea. Really.
- 15:35Some of them with that. This is our no, this is our
- 15:38human interest. This is how the podcast works.
- 15:40This is what happens behind the scenes.
- 15:42This is true. The part you're listening to now
- 15:45is the fun part for Chris and I, too.
- 15:47All the stuff he's doing right now is just like me sitting down
- 15:51after we're done here and doing the editing.
- 15:53Yeah, there's nothing fun about him because it's very
- 15:56repetitive. It's very mundane.
- 15:58It's kind of like working on an assembly line in a factory.
- 16:02You know you're doing the same thing all the time.
- 16:04So obviously doing the show is the fun part.
- 16:08Now what you're seeing is what he does the rest of the week to
- 16:11make sure that we have enough shows to keep doing this, what,
- 16:148 * a month? So no, I don't think it's boring
- 16:19at all. And if it is, I guess you just
- 16:21skipped this episode. There's a few episodes of mini
- 16:24podcasts that I've skipped because that's not my jam.
- 16:27I listen to the rest of them, you know?
- 16:29Yep. So all of Beverly's people have
- 16:31been invited. So then you can see that boys
- 16:34and this, I put them into a, they're separate folders.
- 16:36So I have an entire folder for Beverly Brock.
- 16:39And that's another cool thing that people wouldn't think about
- 16:42is we met Beverly. She was, for whatever reason,
- 16:47you know, the stars didn't align for a while.
- 16:50She finally came on the show. She had a great time.
- 16:52And now we've, you know, garnered at least three or four
- 16:56different guests that she feels comfortable sending to us.
- 17:00You know, that part of it to me is so cool, meeting people that
- 17:04found us interesting and said, hey, you know, I had a great
- 17:07time here. You should go talk to him as
- 17:09well. Yeah, absolutely.
- 17:15I had hoped that would happen, but you know, you never know.
- 17:17You don't you? You never know man.
- 17:20Life in the fasting going to make you lose your mind.
- 17:26Life in the fasting that footer. OK, OK.
- 17:33Yeah, it's, it's it's animated. See it?
- 17:36Yeah, I like. Thank you so Christian makes
- 17:38you. I'll start using that on my
- 17:43Linden communications. Your Gmail's all cheery.
- 17:51Everything on my computer's black.
- 17:52I don't remember. Who this this Linden person was?
- 17:57Who is this Linden person and? Not because I'm unhappy.
- 18:02It's easy on the eyes. Oh, we want they want to get Jay
- 18:04on the show. That's right.
- 18:05This linen guy's looking. What's it?
- 18:07This is weird. So some linen gases.
- 18:10He's talking about a guy named Jay and it's signed Dawn Gases.
- 18:12So who knows who that is, But let's get you on the show.
- 18:15I just said, let's get you on the show.
- 18:18Jay slash Don. Oh, that's a good idea, Jay.
- 18:21Don Gases and that's how I handle situations like that.
- 18:27And Jay Sapo. What the fuck?
- 18:34What the How do you? What is that now?
- 18:37Sapovitz, Sapovitz, Sapovitz. I think that's exactly what it
- 18:43is. Something.
- 18:45So then we have general emails and then you have musician
- 18:49emails and then you have show guest.
- 18:53Because I don't know exactly what this person is.
- 18:54They'll be a show guest. So nice.
- 18:56I kind of do that with my folders as.
- 18:58Well, because I have the same because I see that I can do this
- 19:01and I can move Sandy because see, there's not a Sandy Martin.
- 19:03That's what I'm waiting for to respond.
- 19:05Are you Sandy or are you Sean? Because see, that doesn't look
- 19:08like a Sean, does not look like a Sean.
- 19:11That's too small for me to see from here.
- 19:13And I, I'm going to take your word, I did.
- 19:15I did send this Deborah Yeager. So let's create a Deborah
- 19:21Yeager. Some of these people I think I
- 19:24should call sometimes, but they reach out via e-mail.
- 19:27So I just feel this is how I should respond because they're
- 19:31responding the way show guest, show guest, show guest, where is
- 19:37it, show, guest. We've got a lot of.
- 19:40Guests, man lots. And I was just looking back
- 19:44through because we have a nice numbering system on the actual
- 19:49studio that we use. So I went back to #1 and just
- 19:53kind of started looking at all the different people that we've
- 19:56had starting at about what, Episode 50 maybe?
- 19:59We had regular guests. You're right.
- 20:02We've had a ton of people with a ton of interesting life stories,
- 20:06man. Yeah, Phillips on the 21st,
- 20:09that's who this is. I'm like, who, Phillip?
- 20:14What's Phillip do? Phillip, Phillip Knockoff.
- 20:20He, he, he watched the Chad Valliere show talk about the
- 20:26unique chemistry of bands, tricky business of swapping
- 20:29drummers, etcetera. So he's he's Deborah's artist,
- 20:34creative, a wild recruiter. So is it Phillip?
- 20:37Is it Phillip? Is Deborah?
- 20:39Oh no, so, So what the hell, you know, So it's so so it's
- 20:43Deborah, but it's through Phillips.
- 20:46That's what kind of, that's what throws me for a loop when people
- 20:48come on and it's, they message us and then and then it's
- 20:54somebody else they're they're sending messages for, which is
- 20:56cool. So.
- 20:59They're represented by they're. Represented by somebody else.
- 21:01So it's like is do I have a Deborah in here?
- 21:04Is that Deborah Yeager? Is that different, Deborah?
- 21:07Let's see, because I thought we had the Deborah Yeager was
- 21:09Deborah. This is Deborah Masterson.
- 21:13Deborah Masterson for Freedom Quest, a love story.
- 21:17Deborah Masterson. Yeah.
- 21:19Freedom Quest. A Love Story.
- 21:22Create New Create new. Deborah Masterson.
- 21:27Let's see how he morphs into Dave.
- 21:29Molds into Dave. That's a show guest, so I
- 21:33worked. For him, he's doing work.
- 21:34He morphs into Dave. That's.
- 21:35Great. I worked for a friend of mine
- 21:38when the when the market crashed, Right, Brian?
- 21:40We took slightly pulls. Yeah, I don't know.
- 21:43I don't think I probably shouldn't tell him the story.
- 21:45I was just thinking about it. I'll tell you a story off air.
- 21:48Yeah, don't tell on air stories that you should.
- 21:50It's a tell story. I'll be right back.
- 21:52Control the control the masses. I'm only at 33% anyway.
- 21:56OK, you're listening. So I'm going to read this and
- 21:58I'm going to ask. I'll ask your opinion when you
- 22:01come back. This is something that I saved
- 22:03last night because when we started this podcast, it's funny
- 22:06that he brings up guests because we didn't have guests when we
- 22:10started. It was just him and I, and
- 22:11that's kind of how we thought it was going to go forever.
- 22:14And I think the second or third show we had a debate who was
- 22:19better in Van Halen, Dave or Sammy, and everybody's got their
- 22:23opinions. I liked both, but this headline
- 22:26caught my eye. It was from Ted Templeman, who
- 22:29was one of Van Halen's producers in the early days and
- 22:32responsible for the sound that we all know and love.
- 22:35And his quote was Dave was so brilliant.
- 22:38It would have never happened without Dave.
- 22:42And in the book he goes on to say, because I've read this book
- 22:46that as talented as Eddie was, and I've said this a million
- 22:52times, I would have never made it with Nemesis without Chris as
- 22:56my front man. People don't latch on to guitar
- 22:59players as the main guy in the band.
- 23:03They're always a second to everybody.
- 23:04That's just a fact. If you're a good band and you're
- 23:07writing good songs, people are going to latch on to the singer
- 23:10because that's what they recognize.
- 23:12They learn the words, every one of them.
- 23:14They know how the melody goes. They sing it back to him.
- 23:17So I think that he's 100% right. But that garnered about 582
- 23:23comments of people arguing both ways.
- 23:25You know that Eddie would have made it without him at that
- 23:29level and that Dave would have made it without Eddie.
- 23:33That's also an argument that, you know, Dave had a stellar
- 23:37solo career, but you can argue the other way that Sammy did as
- 23:40well. You know, Sammy was an
- 23:42established solo artist after he left Montrose.
- 23:45He didn't need Van Halen to be successful.
- 23:48He would have lived the rest of his life a millionaire just on
- 23:52the singles that he had as a solo artist.
- 23:54So I do agree with his statement, though, that Dave was
- 23:59so brilliant as a front man that they wouldn't have made it
- 24:03without him, not at that level. You know, they would have been a
- 24:07good band and they might have toured the country, they might
- 24:11have even toured the world. But would they have been a Hall
- 24:14of Fame legendary? People never forget the name Van
- 24:18Halen without David Lee Roth. I don't think so.
- 24:25So we'll get Chris's opinion because he's been listening
- 24:30because he's like that, You know, he likes to be nosy and
- 24:34act like he's part of the show. Make sure everybody goes to the
- 24:45Chris and Mike show. Actually, it's not the, and
- 24:47Chris keep saying that too, and I need to correct him and I need
- 24:50to correct myself. The website is actually Chris
- 24:52and mikeshow.com. It's not the Chris and
- 24:55mikeshow.com. I make that mistake as well.
- 25:04Yeah, I just checked. It's just Chris and
- 25:07mikeshow.com. So I think that you're right.
- 25:11I don't think Eddie Van Halen would have been the guitar he or
- 25:14he is without Beverly Roth because you need the front man's
- 25:18the hook and you could probably pull up tons of examples because
- 25:22of your innate knowledge of of amazing guitar players that I.
- 25:26Use myself as an example. We would not have been who we
- 25:29are, and you're not. You're going to say that if it's
- 25:32required in a conversation, like, do you think your band
- 25:37would have made it without you? No, but I'm going to say it for
- 25:40you again and again. You were what I was looking for
- 25:43when I was putting that band together with Scott, right?
- 25:50You, you just said it. People have to have something to
- 25:52latch onto. Exactly.
- 25:54And, and I just, I mean, the greatest Eddie Van Halen was and
- 26:00I don't. And, and back to what you said
- 26:02too, Sammy would not have had the success he had after
- 26:06Montrose without joining Van Halen.
- 26:08Sammy was Sammy, but he was never going to be a household
- 26:10name like he is now, you know what I'm saying?
- 26:17I actually argued it the other way.
- 26:19I know you did. That he'd I'm sorry, he didn't
- 26:22need Van Halen. Right, but I don't.
- 26:23But he wouldn't be a household name without Van Halen.
- 26:25I don't think he was a household name.
- 26:27The only thing I knew about Sammy Hagar was 3 lock box.
- 26:31I didn't know Montrose. I do.
- 26:34All I heard, all I knew was 3 lock box.
- 26:35And then he joined Van Halen because him and Eddie had the
- 26:38same mechanic. Right.
- 26:43Yeah, you're probably right. At the level that he's at now,
- 26:47he might not have attained that level of household name.
- 26:51Everybody knows who Sammy Hagar is now.
- 26:54Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm responding to I'm responding
- 27:04to an e-mail. I just thought that was funny
- 27:07when I read that because that's coming from a guy who is
- 27:11directly responsible for their early sound.
- 27:14Ted Templeman was the actual producer, and he's the one
- 27:18making that comment. You know, it's in his opinion.
- 27:21What he heard coming through the speakers when Dave was singing
- 27:25was so brilliant that you know instantly he knew Van Halen was
- 27:29going to be what they became. Right.
- 27:34You could hear it in his People still sing, all those little
- 27:36screeches and streams that they're not words, you know, but
- 27:40we all know them. They fit perfectly in time with
- 27:43the melody of what Eddie's playing on the guitar in the
- 27:45background. He's just filling in the space.
- 27:48You used to do that a lot, too. There's a little space there.
- 27:50Yeah. I'm going to stick just a sound
- 27:53that's in key. It's not really a word.
- 27:55It's just, Hetfield said. His kids make fun of him because
- 28:00he chose to say yeah, a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 28:03Whatever he does, yeah, he, Mama, he does that a lot.
- 28:05Mama. Yo, Mama.
- 28:07OK, so Travis came back and he said I can do Tuesday.
- 28:12OK, Which Tuesday? Which Tuesday in May Like like
- 28:20you got to you got to pick a day.
- 28:21Now when you respond to my emails, people, it's really
- 28:23helpful if you tell me which Tuesday, which Tuesday works
- 28:27for. You pick an actual day.
- 28:29And the and. If we were psychics, we wouldn't
- 28:31be doing this. So Sandy Martin is not related
- 28:34to Sean Martin. They are two different people.
- 28:38So, OK, so. The mystery has been solved.
- 28:41But so now we need to see if, if, if one of these people can
- 28:44move to the 24th because I had, I had Shawn might written down
- 28:49because she must never confirm with me originally.
- 28:52So the 24th was empty on my calendar.
- 28:55This is why we need an intern or a producer.
- 28:57People just come work first for free.
- 29:01Yes, ride the wave to the top together.
- 29:08We'll pay you handsomely when we get paid handsomely.
- 29:13Yes, me for the code. Hang on.
- 29:20And if there's any stellar editors out there that like to
- 29:22work for free, I'll gladly let you do that too.
- 29:26Yeah, provided you go through the Mike Michaels crash course
- 29:30One O 1 of editing, right? I am a stickler for how it looks
- 29:36and sounds. What about Jensen Buck?
- 29:44He said he was coming back on, too, so I can have an episode
- 29:47that's not sideways. Speaking of things that bother
- 29:50me, that one, the content was just too good.
- 29:56And like I, you know, I've said three times already, I reached
- 29:59out to him and everybody was on board.
- 30:01It just still bothers me. Yeah.
- 30:06Because if you haven't heard that story, we obviously didn't
- 30:09do that on purpose. If you watch that episode.
- 30:11We did not do that on purpose. It was a glitch in the matrix.
- 30:22Yeah, I started uploading the actual podcast in 4K too, so I
- 30:29looked at it last night. It looks really good.
- 30:42Obviously only if you have a 4K television.
- 30:45Right, right, because you got to have 4K television.
- 30:47I would be interested to see some 4K do.
- 30:51You have a 4K television. I don't.
- 30:53Oh. OK, so that.
- 31:03Problem. I could be wrong, but yeah, I
- 31:05think that actually makes the HD version look better.
- 31:08Too. I think it's like I've seen them
- 31:10and it's really, really weird because it makes you feel like
- 31:15you're there and it's almost like it's not lifelike.
- 31:17I mean, I know it's it's it's insanely life like, but for some
- 31:20reason it doesn't, it doesn't feel lifelike.
- 31:22I don't know how to explain it. Just it's, it's, it's bizarre,
- 31:24man. It's kind of a mess with your
- 31:26head type thing. There's a, there's a function on
- 31:30the LGTVI have that it comes equipped with that freaked me
- 31:35out. And it's called true motion and
- 31:37it's kind of what you're describing.
- 31:40It almost looks like, and you know, I've been behind the
- 31:44scenes on it, but you've actually been in an acting role
- 31:47where you know when you're there and then when you watch it on
- 31:50TV, you have a vision in your head that's different from
- 31:53people who have never seen it, right?
- 31:55You know what's going on behind the scenes where the cameras are
- 31:58moving and whether it's a single or multi camera, that true
- 32:03motion actually makes you feel like you're in the middle of the
- 32:06set. It's so real.
- 32:08I had to turn it off it. It drove me nuts.
- 32:11It's too lifelike. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
- 32:14It's just a little bizarre. Yeah, I didn't like it.
- 32:19I think 4K is just very crisp. It is crisp, but it's just it's
- 32:24it's bizarre. It's it's a it's a definitely
- 32:26bizarre thing. It's just, it's a little I just
- 32:31it doesn't sit well with me, I guess, is what I'm trying to
- 32:33say. You're.
- 32:35Not supposed to be able to see the blades of grass.
- 32:36No, you're not. You're not.
- 32:41Hey, look, Lamar Jackson has a new pimple.
- 32:43Right, yeah. So this guy's telling me that
- 32:50he, he he told me he responded to an e-mail all and I don't see
- 32:53it like, I don't know, tell you dude, I don't see the I don't
- 32:58see the response and. You never heard back from Matt.
- 33:05No. That's not.
- 33:12Yeah, nothing. He sent it.
- 33:14Well, yeah, again, he sent it to me at 9:00, but I at the shows
- 33:16at at 10:30 or 9:30. And it was clearly, I clearly
- 33:20told him everybody knows just, you know, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 33:26See, there we go. It's actually. 10 there you.
- 33:28Go Travis. Like Travis Team Magazine?
- 33:29How about Mayfest? Yeah, I need a date.
- 33:31I need a date. You can't.
- 33:33You can't just say, how about Tuesday?
- 33:35How about Tuesday, May 5th? May 5th, Travis?
- 33:38I will gladly pay you for a hamburger on Tuesday.
- 33:45So we're going to tell Travis, done, done you.
- 33:48Oh, come on, why does it do that?
- 33:53And you will link at 3:50 PM day of show.
- 33:57MST time see look at that ladies and gentlemen he was just
- 34:01throwing himself under the bus for being not diligent about
- 34:04booking into May and right here live on the podcast he booked
- 34:07his first show in May so of all times to give yourself a round
- 34:12of applause you probably. Should do that, right?
- 34:18Going back to the early days of the podcast.
- 34:20Yep, absolutely. It really does the podcast.
- 34:34So thinking back on those days, did you ever envision that 63
- 34:38countries would have found this nonsense?
- 34:40No, I don't. I don't at all.
- 34:42And I say that he knows. I say that in the most
- 34:45affectionate way possible. This is not nonsense.
- 34:47I just, I'm self deprecating in the nicest way possible.
- 34:51Yeah. Because I think when you're in
- 34:55the middle of it, there is a little bit of your brain that
- 34:57says, why would anybody care, right?
- 35:00Right. But I've listened to, what, 1300
- 35:05episodes of the Rogan podcast because I find it interesting
- 35:08and I've learned a lot from it from, you know, the scientists
- 35:12and the doctors that he's had on there.
- 35:13And I've learned a lot from the crazy comedians and MMA fighters
- 35:16he's had on there. Some of those people are way
- 35:18smarter than you give them credit for.
- 35:20So I think that's the appeal, right?
- 35:23It's just the different stories that people have to hear.
- 35:26To look at Beverly, would you have thought that she started?
- 35:3017. Agency at 17 years old, by
- 35:33literally buying a rock band, all the equipment, the songs,
- 35:38you know and made it her vision, she said.
- 35:40I knew better than what they were doing.
- 35:42They had a they had a good start, but I could see where it
- 35:45could be better, right? I love those people.
- 35:47Yeah, and she was, she was definitely a cool human to talk
- 35:50to. And the fact that, that we're
- 35:51going to possibly have 5 guests from that initial conversation
- 35:55because again, it's kind of neat that when people come on the
- 35:58show and then once we wrap up the show, then we're off air the
- 36:03accolades, they shower us with shows that we're not just, you
- 36:07know, time fillers. Like they truly, they truly
- 36:12enjoy being on the show. They truly enjoy having
- 36:14conversations with it. And, and they always kind of
- 36:16freak out, freak out a little bit when they asked me prior to
- 36:18show. Well, what do I, what do I have
- 36:19a list of questions? No, you don't.
- 36:21What do you mean? What are you talking about?
- 36:23What do you do? And they answer the question
- 36:26like, that's what we're talking about.
- 36:27Well, how does that work? And.
- 36:29I'm gonna and I almost wish we could have some of that B roll.
- 36:32And I know filler because Chris is not bullshit and you win more
- 36:36times than we can count. The first thing we hear out of
- 36:39their mouth when we get done is, Oh my God, I've done like 100 of
- 36:42these or I've done 1000 of these and this was the most fun I've
- 36:45ever had. And the reason being is what he
- 36:48just described because their nervousness is set at ease right
- 36:52away by the first question. Give me the elevator pitch of,
- 36:55you know, we're riding up to the 30th floor.
- 36:57Tell me who you are and what do you do?
- 36:59The conversation starts from there.
- 37:01And you notice we never use the word interview.
- 37:03People say that about us and that's fine.
- 37:05That interview was great. We're not going to bash them for
- 37:07using the word interview. But literally what those people
- 37:10don't know subconsciously, right, then they're having a
- 37:13conversation with us. And those are the things that
- 37:17you and I enjoyed about being in the band, right?
- 37:19Playing the music was the most fun.
- 37:21The second most fun was having intelligent conversations about
- 37:26life or comedic conversations about serious subjects.
- 37:30You know, just to lighten the move.
- 37:32Yeah, that was that was the thing that I got.
- 37:34I got you. I would get yelled at when I had
- 37:36Real Talk USA on I Heart people, people.
- 37:43They wanted me to interview Steve Jeannine, the the guy
- 37:45behind the show to produce the local producer.
- 37:47And he's like, you know, you can't you can't be a social.
- 37:49What was it? You can't be?
- 37:53So when I got to go, what I can't remember that I can't for
- 37:57life me, I'm drawing a blank. So like when I was when I was
- 37:59working for the newspaper, I was a sports editor, but I liked I
- 38:04what the fuck? I cannot think of the word right
- 38:06now. I don't know.
- 38:11It's the social part of it. I don't.
- 38:12It's going to dawn on me like 3 days from now.
- 38:15So on when I was on the radio. Are you talking about like an
- 38:18op-ed where you can't have an opinion?
- 38:21Not not that it was it was more of I've OK, so like I but the
- 38:27songs I write were stories, right?
- 38:30Like liquid, liquid, liquid 100% right.
- 38:32Listen to your sense of story, right?
- 38:34It's it's, it's a complete. It's a complete.
- 38:36Freelancer. Story.
- 38:37They're all stories. So when I would write it for the
- 38:40newspaper and when there were stories, they were short
- 38:43stories. And then it, it wasn't just an
- 38:47interview. So when I got on the radio with
- 38:51iheart, they, you know, they had, I had five segments, which
- 38:54was unheard of because, you know, I laid it out from the
- 38:56word go. Like, I'm not going to be this
- 38:58arrogant person. If my head doesn't fit through
- 39:00the door, you're more than welcome to beat my ass.
- 39:02I suck. I'm this tiny little pond in
- 39:03this giant, tiny little fish in this giant pond.
- 39:06And I am in no way, you know, going to have an ego about this
- 39:11because like I'm going to be on the radio.
- 39:13IHeartRadio, you kidding me worldwide.
- 39:17So that right there was like I went the respect for not knowing
- 39:20me. What just over the top because
- 39:23they both looked at each other. There was a station director and
- 39:26Steve Jeanine and they just kind of they had this look like, wow,
- 39:29we've never heard and I and I never did.
- 39:31I never, I never acted like I was a star and never acted like
- 39:36my shit didn't stink because I'm on the radio.
- 39:38I was straight up humble the entire time I was doing it.
- 39:42But because of that, because that's who I am, then they gave
- 39:45me things like I had five segments.
- 39:47Nobody has five segments in an hour, which basically means I
- 39:49have 5 sets of commercial breaks that each commercial break had
- 39:52three commercials in it. So the sponsors of my show had a
- 39:56spot basically two or three times through the show and then
- 40:00we'd come out of break. I'd be like, hey, you're coming
- 40:02to, we're back live in the, you know, we fix ugly pool studio.
- 40:05Or whatever the, you know, the Great American title studio,
- 40:08whatever it was in that coming out of that segment, the
- 40:11commercial break. But I didn't want to interview.
- 40:15I just the interviews were boring.
- 40:17Hey, Mike, how are you today? I'm good.
- 40:18So you play guitar? What kind of hard you play?
- 40:21I play, I play a Fender Stratocaster.
- 40:23Great. What color is it?
- 40:24Well, it's purple with inlay butterflies, whatever the fuck.
- 40:27I didn't the first couple shows. I just I didn't like it.
- 40:30I didn't there was no flow to it.
- 40:31And even Margie, my, who was my real estate assistant, but then
- 40:35she was the, the, I always called her the Robin Quivers to
- 40:39my Howard Stern because she made the show that much more dynamic,
- 40:42because she was fun and bubbly and had this amazing outgoing
- 40:45personality. She's like me, an extrovert.
- 40:47You put 2 extroverts in a room. We just, we knew each other for
- 40:49so long from the real estate world.
- 40:51It fed off, We fed off each other extremely well on radio.
- 40:56So it really just became a conversation.
- 40:58So then Steve would give me shit, man.
- 41:00You got to be more interview, you know, get I'm like, well, I
- 41:02don't like doing interviews, man, They're boring.
- 41:03It's like, you know, I would never do numbers, which was a,
- 41:06you know, dead air on radio, especially when the real estate
- 41:10centric show and that's the thing was real estate centric.
- 41:13So they couldn't understand how I can have conversations with
- 41:15guess what? My guests were lenders, title
- 41:18reps, home inspectors, AC guys, termite guys, anything that kind
- 41:22of tied with the real estate world.
- 41:23Those were my guests, like 1031 exchange guys.
- 41:27What are you doing it now with your other right.
- 41:30It's the same kind. I've listened to a few of those
- 41:32where you're it's basically the same kind of conversation.
- 41:35You're not really, it's not a dry here's how real estate
- 41:39works. So today we are going to talk
- 41:41about. Nobody wants to hear that well.
- 41:43Not there's no. Out there, but that population
- 41:46is so small now that wants to hear the NPR version.
- 41:50Yeah, and I just didn't, you know, I never got into that.
- 41:52And so I like that and the people that were on the show,
- 41:57some of them they probably the only time they came into an
- 42:00iheart studio, into an iheart building, let alone you know.
- 42:03And then Mark Jeffrey, who we had in the show, he would, he
- 42:06would, he would find me during my pregame tour.
- 42:09He'd, he'd latch on to me and he'd, he'd take over, take him
- 42:12to the traffic center and show them all that.
- 42:13These are things that normally everyday people never see behind
- 42:16the scenes of. So it was, it was a cool little
- 42:18dynamic I had where they were coming on my show, which is all
- 42:21about them. And I always had two or three
- 42:23guests to fill the different segments and then by the by the
- 42:264th and the same, it's just this this giant cool conversation
- 42:29going on with everybody involved.
- 42:32And I thought it was fantastic. Well, you know.
- 42:35And I agree with you there with that's why I never started this
- 42:38by myself because just that little spot that I filled for
- 42:41you. I heard the whole thing.
- 42:42Realize, well, you realize real quick and you've told me the
- 42:47same thing, even though you're capable of doing it and I'm sure
- 42:50I'm capable of doing. It now for sure.
- 42:52It works so much better when you're bound.
- 42:55And that was my whole vision to begin with, of calling you up
- 42:59and asking you, because I knew that we had great conversations
- 43:01to begin with, right? And instantly when you're trying
- 43:06to do it by yourself, you realize, yeah, I could get
- 43:08through this. But man, it's so much easier
- 43:10when he either knows what I'm trying to get across or I know
- 43:14what you're trying to get across, or you're just bouncing
- 43:16that same idea 180° the other direction.
- 43:20Like you say. Last week you blew me away when
- 43:23you were like, I don't really care for Ted, really.
- 43:27We've never talked about that. I just assumed you like the guy
- 43:30because I covered the song and you're like, yeah, I like the
- 43:33song because you gave me a break and that was really the
- 43:36expensive. I like I like some of his.
- 43:38I like some of his non music stuff, except when he started
- 43:41getting political. I like that he's a hunter.
- 43:42I like that he's he's as a non. And I actually have come to
- 43:46appreciate Ted even more in that direction.
- 43:50As far as the things, I don't think he's so far out there as
- 43:54people think. I don't either listen to him for
- 43:56three hours on Rogan. And that's where I gained
- 43:59garnered a different approach because Joe got him to not turn
- 44:04his stance on, like, marijuana, but he got him to listen.
- 44:08You know, Ted was vehemently against marijuana.
- 44:11And Joe's like, why? Yeah.
- 44:13And as they started talking about it and Joe kept making
- 44:16logical points, Ted's like, OK, well, I.
- 44:18Can't argue that and you know, and the cool the one cool thing
- 44:21about Ted drug and alcohol free his entire existence, his entire
- 44:26career. So the only other.
- 44:27Person watched his father drank himself to death and he swore he
- 44:30was never going to do that so yeah, he walked the walk his
- 44:32entire. Life and the only other person I
- 44:34know is Gene Simmons. Yep, he's another one for the
- 44:39same reason. That's it.
- 44:41And that alone in that industry. And to have, like, the crazy
- 44:48personas of, you know, Gene was always revered by the fans for
- 44:52breathing fire and spitting blood.
- 44:53And Ted was revered for what you just said of being a man's man,
- 44:58a hunter, and driving cool trucks and shooting Buffalo on
- 45:02stage and swinging across then a loincloth.
- 45:04You thought the guy and Ted talked about that on Rogan's
- 45:07podcast. I know everybody thought I was
- 45:08high on drugs and crazy, but I wasn't.
- 45:11No, no. And that's the cool thing.
- 45:13That's that's what I liked about him.
- 45:15The off off the stage, the unapologetic, this is who I am.
- 45:21I'm going to RIP it off, take it right, You love me or hate me.
- 45:23Like it's just that's that thing you have.
- 45:26You have those people like Nikki's always says, you either
- 45:28love me or hate me. There's no Gray area with me.
- 45:30It's either people that love Chris or people that just I
- 45:33can't stand. Him.
- 45:34Well, that is a great way to describe him because I actually
- 45:37just got in a debate with a person who said, you know, that
- 45:40he wasn't one of the best guitar players.
- 45:43And I said yes and no. And here's why.
- 45:46Because if you put Ted in a room, even with Slash and Joe
- 45:50Perry and some of the greatest guitar players you can name,
- 45:53that motherfucker is going to hold his own.
- 45:55Yeah. He's not scared to go in there
- 45:57and play where I would be a nervous wreck, Right.
- 45:59Oh, my God. Slash is here.
- 46:01I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it.
- 46:02And Joe Perry's over here and what am I going to do?
- 46:05Right? Yeah.
- 46:05Ted doesn't have that. What am I going to do?
- 46:07Thought ever in his head, he's like, I'm Ted fucking new.
- 46:10That's who I. Am I agree with that 100% now?
- 46:13You mean I saw? Go ahead.
- 46:15Good. No, I saw the man stand on a
- 46:17stage with Jack Blades and Tommy Shaw and Ted Nuder.
- 46:20I. Love Damn Yankees, that was a
- 46:21great band. Me too.
- 46:22That was a great band. Absolutely.
- 46:25Now, you mentioned Slash. Would Slash be Slash if it was
- 46:29not for Axl Rose? No, exactly.
- 46:32Slash would admit that Slash would not be slashed without any
- 46:36of those original members of Guns and Roses.
- 46:38Actually, Slash would go as far as to tell you, and I guarantee
- 46:41he would say this. I would not be me without Izzy
- 46:44Stradlin. Yeah, because he wrote a lot of
- 46:47those key hooks that Slash played his little leads around,
- 46:52you know? Well, and he says I call him
- 46:55Licks. Yeah, we had Neanderpal on Paul
- 46:57Marshall. He even referenced that that
- 46:59that the the the personalities in Guns and Roses made Guns and
- 47:04Roses who they were and without the collective personalities it
- 47:09wouldn't have worked. It did when they were the most.
- 47:12Dangerous band in rock'n'roll. That wasn't just APR, you know.
- 47:17They really were the most dangerous band in rock'n'roll.
- 47:20You never knew what condition they were going to be in.
- 47:23Nope. What they were going to say,
- 47:25what they were going to do, how long they were going to play.
- 47:28When they were going. To play us.
- 47:30When they were going to play, When they.
- 47:31Were going to play Take it or leave it.
- 47:34You know, there was a time when Axel was so far out of his
- 47:37fucking head that he was consulting A psychic as to what
- 47:39time the Showtime should. Be.
- 47:40Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah.
- 47:42Wow. Another tidbit I got off Rogan.
- 47:45I remember, I remember there was something on MTV when they
- 47:48first, when they first kind of made it huge that it was one of
- 47:51those behind the music. It was, it wasn't behind the
- 47:53music was just some, some funny interview that they were talking
- 47:55to Slash and said this kitchen was starting to smell.
- 47:58He couldn't understand why. And so he called Axel and he's
- 48:02like, you know, my, my kitchen smell.
- 48:04And every time I open my refrigerator door, it just
- 48:05stinks. I said, but it's clean.
- 48:07He's like, well, there's a pan underneath the refrigerator.
- 48:10And then Slash was like, what? There's a pan actually.
- 48:13Like, yeah, you got to clean the pan out, man.
- 48:16Like they never owned a fridge. They never stayed anywhere long
- 48:19enough back in the day. There's pans under the fridge.
- 48:22I don't think they have any more.
- 48:24But it was one of those things that that was that was kind of a
- 48:27cool little thing I remembered from years and years ago.
- 48:30Just that was how they knew they made it.
- 48:33They had their own refrigerators with a pan and it was and it was
- 48:37stinky because they didn't clean it because nobody told them to
- 48:40clean it. Molds growing under there.
- 48:42I remember those. Pans, right?
- 48:44Because who would, who would have thought, hey, there's a pan
- 48:46under the fridge. You got to clean that shit or
- 48:48it's going to start stinking, you know, because I really,
- 48:51there's no pans anymore. I don't think no.
- 48:55They're all, what do they call them, self defrosting.
- 48:57Yeah, self defrosting. I'm not quite sure how that
- 49:01process works. I hear my refrigerator doing it
- 49:06all the time though. Yeah, Sean Martin, Sean Martin,
- 49:09Sean Martin. I got to find Sean Martin's
- 49:11e-mail. I can't wait to hear the rest of
- 49:14that dude's stories. I said Sean.
- 49:17No, it's not Sean Watson. Sean Martin.
- 49:24Now he's bearing his people up. No, there he is.
- 49:26Just where is he? What the fuck is he?
- 49:33Sean Martin? Oh, this is pocket.
- 49:35Oh, that's why it's a quarantined.
- 49:37Quarantined. That's why it's hard to find
- 49:40him. AT&T is really sucking at their
- 49:47blocking spam calls here lately, so up your game.
- 49:51I had a rash of them. That's why I have a thing for
- 49:55Verizon that blocks them. Well, I'm supposed to too.
- 49:59It's called active Armor, but it's not doing its job here
- 50:02lately and these people are doing that number spoofing where
- 50:09they make it look like it's coming from your area code.
- 50:12Oh, OK, assholes, right? And I don't know if this is
- 50:18going to be something that's going to sweep the nation, but
- 50:21right now everybody in our town is getting a fake.
- 50:24We can save you up to 80% on your water bill.
- 50:28Oh no, we don't have that. So for the people out there, the
- 50:33utility companies don't contact you unless there's an emergency
- 50:36ever, for any reason, or if you owe them money, obviously
- 50:40they're going to contact you. But if you're a good tax paying
- 50:44American citizen, like people like to believe that they are
- 50:48and you're paying your bills on time, they're never going to
- 50:51contact you for any reason. No, no.
- 50:55So not at all. Unfortunately, the elderly are
- 51:00the ones that fall victim to a lot of those.
- 51:02We were talking about that at work the other day and it's a
- 51:05shame because some of these things look like they're really
- 51:08coming from the businesses. And I went to their website and
- 51:13that's the first thing it said. We do not contact you unless you
- 51:16owe us money. You know, they had a nice way of
- 51:18saying that that's the only reason we're going to contact
- 51:23you if you owe us money or there's an emergency in your
- 51:26area. Because otherwise they don't
- 51:28care. You're just, you're just a
- 51:30peasant. You're just someone that pays
- 51:31them money. So went back to Orange provide
- 51:36you. Go ahead.
- 51:37What? Sorry.
- 51:38Yawn. I apologize.
- 51:39We provide you water and power. No, you're fine.
- 51:41So you went back to Orange? We.
- 51:42Went back to Orange 3A couple months ago.
- 51:46Started the queen group when that sucks, trainers are lame.
- 51:50Then I went to South China, which is where I started in
- 51:532015, and ironically enough, one of the trainers that was there
- 51:57when I started was still there. I was like, that was cool.
- 51:59There's actually 2. That's a good sign.
- 52:02And well, then she left. She left last week.
- 52:05I'm like. After you started back.
- 52:08I was there a couple months and then she she left because she
- 52:10got another gig and she can't tell people what it is I was.
- 52:12Like that's like Chris is back. I got to go.
- 52:15I'm like, what the hell? So today I went back to Gilbert
- 52:18E, which is where the the turmoil existed a couple years
- 52:21back. I was nervous because, you know,
- 52:26I don't know what they were going to do, but dude, it was
- 52:28pretty cool. It was, I walked in, signed my
- 52:30name and one of the trainers like you're back.
- 52:35And then Marwa, the head trainer, the trainer, there's
- 52:37for the class, she comes, I walked by, I was like, what's
- 52:39up, Marwa, just look what's up. And went in to the rower because
- 52:43I start on the rower and then she comes like you're back all
- 52:46like happy and shit. And then three people come off
- 52:48the treadmill walks and he's like, is this real?
- 52:53And then when I'm transitioned to the weight room, couple come
- 52:56up to me, like, where have you been?
- 52:58And then as I'm leaving, that's a good feeling.
- 53:01As I'm leaving, there's like 3 or 4 people as I'm going
- 53:03through, it's like, I can't believe you're back.
- 53:04Where have you been? Where I was like, you know, so
- 53:06that was kind of cool to go back to where I spent so much time
- 53:12and actually have have, you know, trainers that the one
- 53:18trainer that, that we butted heads.
- 53:19I I acknowledged her, but that was about it because I've just,
- 53:23she was very brutal and harsh, you know, so I'm, you know, I'm,
- 53:29yeah, got to let that go. But, you know, I'm there to work
- 53:31out. But it was, it was fun to see
- 53:34probably 12 people that I used to sweat with on a daily basis
- 53:38that like we're really happy that I'm back in the room.
- 53:42So that was cool, you know, So, you know, it was fun.
- 53:50It was good. It was good workout too.
- 53:53I burned what, 924 calories or something crazy like that?
- 53:58I beat everybody. Calorie burns again.
- 53:59I don't know how I do that but. I did.
- 54:03I did it. I did it.
- 54:04Let's see what it says. My little app, 950 calories.
- 54:11See that? That's what I did today.
- 54:14That's crazy. Yeah, yeah.
- 54:17And that's that's the perfect pyramid.
- 54:19See how it's kind of like a middle finger?
- 54:21The green is the middle finger. How much?
- 54:27Yeah, yeah. That's it's it's, yeah.
- 54:31It's cool. It's fun.
- 54:33It's fun to go back to that spot and.
- 54:37So where do you go there after you drop little man off?
- 54:39I do. Yeah.
- 54:40And this one actually starts 15 minutes earlier.
- 54:42So it'll be an easier, it'll be an easier 1 to get to and be
- 54:46back because the other ones, the other one start at 8:45.
- 54:52So here's that. How long does that take to burn
- 54:57900? What is that?
- 54:59It's 5053 minutes. That's.
- 55:04Crazy. So it was It was 1000.
- 55:05Calories in less than. It was 3/5 minute warm up on the
- 55:10on the rower and then weight room was 19 minutes. 4 different
- 55:15exercises, back-to-back sets and then the second set,
- 55:19back-to-back sets, which is kind of cool.
- 55:22I put up, I put up a 70 LB single arm chest press laying on
- 55:25the floor. So your elbow touches the floor
- 55:27and you go up. I was pushing 70 lbs, so that
- 55:30was kind of cool. And then it was on the
- 55:36treadmill. We did 10 all outs.
- 55:37So basically it was 32nd all, 32nd rest, 32nd all 32nd rest
- 55:43and 45. Then a minute and your, your
- 55:45rests got longer. Actually, no, it was a minute
- 55:48all out. All the all, all, all 10 all
- 55:50outs were a minute, but the recovery time went from 30
- 55:53seconds to 90 seconds. So started at 3% incline, 6 1/2
- 55:59miles an hour. Ended up at 10 miles an hour
- 56:01with 3% incline. So that's how about that, you
- 56:05know, getting the guns back in shape.
- 56:10Very nice. Any plans for the weekend?
- 56:12The whole I was going to say the whole set looks there good looks
- 56:18good, looks there good, looks good.
- 56:20There. You're bottom half is pretty
- 56:25stout too. Yeah.
- 56:26You know what do you? Well, you got you got one of the
- 56:28things you want to share, one of those funny things you want to
- 56:30share before we wrap it all up. Not now.
- 56:32I was going to tell you to watch this comedian on Netflix and now
- 56:35I can't find it. Dude, he was good clean comedy,
- 56:40which is hard to find, but I laughed my ass off man.
- 56:43And I it was about halfway through it.
- 56:45I'm like, this guy's not swearing.
- 56:47Oh, which is unusual for me to watch Gabby without swearing.
- 56:51I like Jim Gaffigan a lot. He's.
- 56:53Clean. You've watched Jim Gabby.
- 56:54But it has to be that level, right?
- 56:56I don't know why it's hard to be funny without using the word
- 56:59fuck, but most of my favorite comedians use that word
- 57:03liberally. It was just funny because
- 57:06halfway through it I'm like, this dude's not swearing at all.
- 57:08And I had to pause it a couple times because my stomach hurt.
- 57:12Oh, because you didn't realize it.
- 57:14I was laughing so hard. Wow, the fuck was this guy's
- 57:19name? I told you to watch The Man in
- 57:24the High Castle. You did.
- 57:26We're we're wrapping up Fallout. We're on the Fallout Season 2.
- 57:29So once we get rid of that, we'll go to Man in High Castle.
- 57:33Why you look for that just keeps getting better.
- 57:35Yeah, so why you look? Why you look for that?
- 57:37Just reminder, boys and girls, if you're feeling sad or
- 57:40depressed or suicidal, you know, go scream in a pillow, go run,
- 57:43go work out, go find somebody to talk to you.
- 57:45Even if you go to the grocery store, just go to the grocery
- 57:47store with a cart and start walking through the aisles and
- 57:50just say hi to random people to you can spark a conversation
- 57:52that will change your mindset. If it doesn't, text 988 because
- 57:56somebody's there standing by to help talk you off that Cliff and
- 57:59get you off that ledge and make you feel better about yourself
- 58:01and understand that tomorrow is such a better day with you
- 58:05waking up in it. Suicide's not the option.
- 58:08Follow your Just follow your shirt.
- 58:11Yeah, be kind. Yeah, Be kind.
- 58:12Just yeah or yeah. Or to use that beautiful 4
- 58:16letter word. Shut the fuck Yeah.
- 58:20Just yeah. Follow.
- 58:21Mama Kay would never say that. Mama Kay would say if you have
- 58:24nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all, right?
- 58:26And I do follow that a lot as a mature adult now I can just not
- 58:32interact with those people. So if people bother in your
- 58:35soul, just don't interact with them.
- 58:37It'll make your soul. It'll make your inner.
- 58:39Peace. You know what I had AI had a
- 58:41conversation yesterday with somebody that that they were
- 58:43they were bitching and complaining about something and
- 58:46I was I was I'm like, is it affecting you?
- 58:50No, thank you. Then why are you?
- 58:52Why are you? Why are you dwelling on it?
- 58:53Why are you letting that annoy you?
- 58:57Well, it's it's it doesn't annoy me.
- 58:58I guess it does because if it didn't know, you wouldn't be
- 59:00bringing it up to me. It wasn't me.
- 59:02It was issue. Here's one day this week, but.
- 59:04Yeah, Here's one that's weighing heavy on people's minds right
- 59:06now. The war with Iran, Right, Right.
- 59:09It's horrible. It is.
- 59:10But can you, as Chris Dunham individually right now do
- 59:14anything about it? Nothing.
- 59:17Nor can I. So should I let it weigh so
- 59:20heavy on my mind that it's affecting my day-to-day life?
- 59:23And I guarantee you there's a large percentage of the American
- 59:26population right now where this is weighing so heavy on their
- 59:28mind that it's affecting their day-to-day life.
- 59:32Am I happy that gas is almost $5 a gallon?
- 59:35No, but I can't change it tomorrow.
- 59:38The only people that can legitimately be stressing about
- 59:42the war in Iran are the military families who have.
- 59:45Soldiers who have. Military family members and
- 59:48that's what I'm saying, the soldiers that are there and
- 59:51their family, that's it. Nobody else realistically has
- 59:57any true reason to allow that to affect their day-to-day life.
- 1:00:01You just. You just.
- 1:00:02No, because you can be productive in a way that you
- 1:00:05just described at the end of this podcast.
- 1:00:07You can be positive. You can say hi to somebody as
- 1:00:10you pass them in the grocery store.
- 1:00:11That's a great example. I do it all the time.
- 1:00:13I told you about the old lady I helped that was standing there
- 1:00:16waiting for somebody to just get something off the shelf.
- 1:00:18And everyone kept walking by her.
- 1:00:20Right. But I made.
- 1:00:21I can't I I made eye contact with her and said, do you need
- 1:00:25some help? Right.
- 1:00:27You look like you need some help.
- 1:00:28Yeah, I could use that right there, if you don't mind.
- 1:00:31Yeah, little things. And then proceeded to tell me
- 1:00:34everybody just kept walking by. Yeah.
- 1:00:37Little things, people. You'd be surprised when I used
- 1:00:39to coach. Whenever I coach the board, I
- 1:00:43coach at little things. You do little things and they
- 1:00:45build up the big things in football.
- 1:00:47Little things. If we can get 2-3 yards every
- 1:00:49play, by the time we get to 3rd down, we have a first down.
- 1:00:51Little things. See you see the ball, catch the
- 1:00:54ball, Little things. The University of Michigan just
- 1:00:58won the national basketball championship because there was
- 1:01:01not one superstar on that team. There were 9 starters and they
- 1:01:05all acknowledged that's good. That's the way you should.
- 1:01:07Whoever was playing on the court at the time was the star, all
- 1:01:11five of them, and that's how they play.
- 1:01:13And that's how you should. So there you go, boys and girls,
- 1:01:16Little things. Be kind and just smile.
- 1:01:19Until next time. Yeah.
- 1:01:20I'm Chris. He's Mike.
- 1:01:21See you. Peace.