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Marineland Beluga Whales: What's Next for Canada's Captive Cetaceans · How To Protect The Ocean

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  30 Belugas on the edge.
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  Canada says no to export.
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  Marine land says it
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  can't afford to care for them
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  and euthanasia has been threatened.
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  And what happens when
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  the law protects animals
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  but the system fails them?
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  We're gonna talk about updates.
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  This is just gonna be
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  a straight up episode.
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  No fantasy, semantic editing.
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  I want to give you an update
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  because so much has been
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  commented on on different videos
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  and so many little updates and big
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  updates have happened.
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  The good news is so far the Belugas,
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  the 30 Belugas are still alive.
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  We're gonna talk about the options
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  and what is probably going to
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  happen in my opinions on that
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  on this episode of the How
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  to Protect the Ocean podcast.
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  Let's start the show.
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  Hey everybody, welcome back
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  to another exciting episode
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  of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
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  I'm your host, Andrew Lewin.
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  And this is the
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  podcast where you find out
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  what's happening with the ocean,
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  how you can speak up for the ocean
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  and what you can do to
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  live for a better ocean
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  by taking action.
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  On today's episode,
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  we're gonna be talking about the updates
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  surrounding this Marine Land debacle.
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  So here is what has happened.
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  So Marine Land came out and said,
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  hey, by the way, we're out of money.
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  We haven't been open for the last year.
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  Our parents have died.
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  These are the kids that
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  have taken over Marine Land
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  and the parents owned it for
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  decades and decades and decades
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  and ran this facility
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  in a lot of controversy.
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  There's been a lot of
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  problems with water quality
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  over the last 10 years
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  and even before that,
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  there've been a lot of
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  deaths over the last little bit.
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  Since 2019,
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  19 beluga whales have passed away.
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  One orca has passed away and
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  one dolphin has passed away.
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  So a lot of stuff has happened
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  and bad stuff is
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  happening with Marine Land.
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  There's a law that
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  came into place that says,
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  hey, you know what?
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  Government of Canada says,
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  you cannot bring in
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  any new Marine mammals
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  to any kind of Marine theme park.
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  So you have to and you can't
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  really get rid of your other
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  emails without permits and it's all going
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  to be regulated now.
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  And you can't just do
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  anything willy nilly.
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  You can't use them for entertainment and
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  you can't use them for breeding,
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  which was a big moneymaker for the Marine
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  theme parks in the US
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  as well as in Canada,
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  as well as around the world.
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  If you want more information on that,
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  I highly recommend that you watch the
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  documentary Blackfish.
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  It outlines everything that
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  the theme parks were doing,
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  including Sea World
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  as well as Marine Land.
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  So now, you know, this has been a big,
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  a big problem in the
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  last couple of weeks.
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  Marine Land said, hey, you know what?
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  We're running out of money.
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  We can't take care.
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  We can't feed or take care
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  of these animals anymore.
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  And if we don't get
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  them out, we are going to,
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  they're going to die.
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  We're going to have to euthanize them
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  because we can't feed them,
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  which is kind of BS in my opinion,
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  but we'll talk about that in a minute.
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  So essentially what happens is in 2019,
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  the ending of captivity
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  of whales and dolphins
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  that came into play.
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  So now they needed like
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  Marine Land needs a permit
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  to ship them out.
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  They had a deal with a
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  Marine theme park in China that,
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  they worked a year,
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  almost a year on that deal.
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  They applied for a permit with the
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  government of Canada,
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  Department of Fisheries and Oceans.
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  The minister came
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  back said, you know what?
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  No, we're not going to
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  allow this to happen.
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  I've seen a lot on captive whales.
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  We don't want to have
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  a law here that says,
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  hey, we're not going to
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  use them for entertainment
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  and breeding and then ship
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  them off to another facility
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  that allows entertainment, the use of
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  whales in entertainment
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  and breeding because
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  that's not what we do.
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  That's just, it is, you
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  know, a bit hypocritical
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  if we start saying, hey,
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  we're not going to do it,
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  but we're going to
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  allow other people to do it.
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  So what happens to these whales?
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  This first thing when the government
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  denied the first thing,
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  the deny the permit, the first thing that
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  Marine Land did was like,
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  hey, by the way, we're just going to,
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  we're going to have to
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  euthanize them if you don't do this,
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  which the minister just came back said
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  that response was inappropriate
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  because first of all, you
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  can't do that in the law.
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  The next step was to find out how these
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  animals need to be cared for.
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  And this is where the updates have to
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  have, like have to come, you know,
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  and there have been some updates.
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  First of all, the animals,
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  there was a deadline date of when the
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  animals were going to be euthanized.
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  That didn't happen.
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  Of course, it's not going to happen.
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  I think a lot of people
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  were worried about that.
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  Marine Land can't do it by law.
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  It has to have others
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  come in through this law,
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  this captivity of
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  whales and dolphins act.
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  You have to have the government.
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  The government can
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  actually come in and take over,
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  whether it's the federal
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  or provincial government.
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  They could both.
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  They all have.
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  They both have acts that allows them to
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  take over for animal welfare.
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  So that would be the
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  first step that happens.
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  But at this point, one of the major
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  updates is that Marine Land has some,
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  some type of funny.
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  It's restructured.
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  It says restructured.
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  It's been able to have some
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  short term bridge financing,
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  but the animals are still at risk.
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  This is his short term.
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  It's not going to be, it's not going to
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  be something that is going to happen.
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  Now, a couple of things have come up in
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  terms of where can they go?
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  All of them have been
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  denied by Marine Land.
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  So the first one was the whale seaside
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  sanctuary in Nova Scotia
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  off the coast of Nova Scotia.
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  A couple of problems with that one.
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  One, there's no facility right now.
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  There's no sanctuary at this point.
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  It's still a theoretical, unfortunately.
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  The nets haven't been put into place
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  because the adjacent owners
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  who have to have unanimous
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  decision, a unanimous agreement that the
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  seaside sanctuary could
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  come in are not unanimous.
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  They don't want to come in because
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  they're worried about a few things.
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  They're worried about tourists that are
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  going to come in
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  because there's going to be an
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  education center around there and they're
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  worried about traffic.
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  These are small towns in Nova Scotia.
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  These are not Halifax.
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  Halifax is the biggest
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  city and it's about 300,000.
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  The rest, if you've ever been in Nova
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  Scotia, all these little
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  towns maybe have a couple
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  thousand people.
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  Some of them 10,000, some of them 30,000,
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  but not much more than that.
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  A lot of these areas are small.
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  They like their local
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  traffic the way it is.
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  They don't want to
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  increase their traffic.
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  Then there's a couple of other risks.
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  One, they're worried
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  about access to the ocean.
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  There's going to be a net.
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  Will they have access to the ocean?
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  Now, there's also going to be different
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  whales in their area
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  that they're not used to.
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  It's a lot of different
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  things that are going on.
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  They're working with the federal
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  government to make sure
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  that this is going through.
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  The whale seaside sanctuary
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  just put up a new response, a new
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  update in terms of the mayor of Niagara
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  where Marine land is coming in saying,
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  "Hey, we have to figure
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  out a way to find them."
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  So there are updates going through, but
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  we'll see how that kind of comes through
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  because we're not sure what's going to
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  happen to these whales.
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  That's the first thing.
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  The whale seaside sanctuary,
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  unfortunately, is not ready to go.
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  There's nothing there at this point.
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  They're still locked up in some
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  legalities and some regulations.
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  This is obviously
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  going to take some time.
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  So the short term way of trying to keep
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  these animals and saying them in the wild
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  is not going to happen through the whale
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  seaside sanctuary at any
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  point in time over the next year.
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  This is a long time in the making and the
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  whale seaside sanctuary,
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  the group has been working with the
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  government for a long time
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  and hopefully we will
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  see something in time.
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  Now the whale seaside sanctuary did apply
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  to take two French or two
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  orcas that were in a French
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  Marine thing park as that
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  was shutting down last year.
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  It got denied because there was no
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  facility that was available.
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  And it seemed like the government of
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  Canada wasn't going to make it easy,
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  not to say that's bad for
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  the government of Canada,
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  but also nothing was going to happen
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  within the next year when those orcas had
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  to be out by law in France.
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  So that was happening as well.
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  So that's the first
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  option of the sanctuary.
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  There was another option in a
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  sanctuary that could happen,
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  although we still haven't
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  found out at this point.
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  There is a sanctuary in Nunavik in the
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  territory of Nunavik,
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  which is northern Canada.
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  There was a suggestion, the relocation to
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  Hudson Bay or Nunavik,
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  for possible reintegration into natural
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  habitat where a lot of belugas are found.
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  But there hasn't been an official Inuit
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  organization response yet.
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  So there was somebody in Montreal who's
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  part of that nation who said,
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  "Hey, why don't we just put it there?"
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  This is where a lot of them will be able
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  to be there and that could be a place
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  that we can put them there.
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  We haven't heard back from any of the
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  indigenous nations up there who will have
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  pretty much final say as well as the
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  territorial government will have final
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  say of where it goes.
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  Now, of course, there is a potential for
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  the government of Ontario to be involved
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  in this because Hudson's Bay does border
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  along Ontario quite a bit.
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  So there could be actions there.
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  Now, again, with putting these into a
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  population where you have belugas, you're
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  messing with the genetic
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  makeup of those belugas.
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  Now, this beluga population in Hudson's
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  Bay, as far as I know, correct me if I'm
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  wrong, is not endangered at this point.
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  The one in St. Lawrence is, but the one
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  in Hudson Bay is not endangered.
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  And so, but if you input or add or
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  introduce new beluga genetics into that
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  area, will it have an effect, a negative
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  effect on the gene
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  pool of that population?
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  Or will it make it better?
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  I don't know.
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  That's a study that needs
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  to be done for a long time.
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  And I don't know if that's going to be
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  possible to send them there and do that.
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  With that said, too, there's a sanctuary
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  up there that could be a
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  possible location for that.
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  But we haven't heard anything back from
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  the people who are
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  involved in that sanctuary.
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  But they said it's not there's one person
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  that came out and said it's not
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  impossible, but it will be challenging.
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  And one of the challenges is the
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  genetics, of course, and how that's going
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  to mix within the population.
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  The other one is the care and the money
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  that goes into feeding these belugas.
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  These belugas were born in captivity.
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  They were not born outside.
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  So they have been fed, hand
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  fed for their entire lives.
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  How they're going to be fed.
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  They're going to have to have someone
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  there to take care of them, to feed them.
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  And as long as they want it, if they can,
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  if they can figure out
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  how to feed for themselves,
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  they will figure out how to feed
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  themselves and they won't
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  be stopped from doing that.
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  But somebody is going to have to take
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  general care of them.
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  Now, one thing that I missed on the whale
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  seed size sanctuary.
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  Marine land is pushing back on that
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  sanctuary because they're
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  saying that the there's a metal.
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  There's a gold metal mine
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  in the 1930s that was there.
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  And there's still a lot of arsenic and a
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  lot of metals that
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  could pollute the animals.
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  According to the government and according
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  to the marine or the
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  seaside sanctuary project,
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  the organization, they said that all that
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  has been put out in reports and
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  everything has been fine.
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  There hasn't been a problem with the
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  water quality in that area
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  for belugas or any other type
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  of marine animal or
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  cetacean, which is a whale.
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  So, you know, that is something that, you
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  know, marine land keeps pushing, but the
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  government is aware of that.
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  And they've been working with the marine
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  seaside as whale sanctuary project for
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  that time to be able
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  to put that together.
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  So two sanctuaries available, one
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  probably not available for the next year,
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  at least the Inuit led
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  proposals might be an option.
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  Now, the one thing that's interesting and
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  hasn't really been talked about is that
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  when the whales were
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  being proposed to go to China,
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  the Chinese marine theme
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  park was going to pay them.
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  So when you go to a sanctuary, the
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  seaside sanctuary project is not going to
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  pay for the whales because they think
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  that's that's not right.
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  We shouldn't be paying for whales.
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  They should just be
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  going back into the wild.
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  And of course, the Inuit led proposals,
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  those probably won't be a situation where
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  the marine lands going
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  to get paid for them.
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  So the real question is like, obviously,
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  marine land has said no to
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  each of those sanctuary projects.
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  Is it because they're not going to get
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  paid for it or do they actually care
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  about the whales themselves?
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  It sounds to me like they just want to
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  get paid for these whales and get out of
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  the business as much as possible and
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  recoup as much as possible.
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  Because they said they are indebted quite
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  a bit already and they
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  just want to get rid of this.
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  Now, I'm sure there are some financial
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  ways to get rid of the debt and say, hey,
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  look, we're trying to
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  get rid of these whales.
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  But I would love to see
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  these animals go to a sanctuary.
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  But it's still a lot of problems because
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  it hasn't really been
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  done too many times.
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  There is one where a couple of blue guys
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  have been put out into the wild, but
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  they're always into their pools that they
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  have, like indoors, that they have
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  options to go in and out in their note
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  that they want to go into the wild,
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  which, to be honest, is up to them.
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  They have a choice of whether they want
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  to stay in a pool or they
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  want to go out in the wild.
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  If they have that choice and they want to
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  make that choice to go out to
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  the wild, that's up to them.
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  If they want to come in
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  closer, that's up to them as well.
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  At least they have the choice.
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  And so that's a big
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  thing, but it does cost money.
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  And although the marine seasank the whale
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  seaside sanctuary project has been
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  raising money, it hasn't
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  had any money at this point.
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  It's getting more money as these projects
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  go on and as these get closer and closer,
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  but it's not asking
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  the government for money.
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  So I think a long term solution, like a
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  long term Canadian sanctuary is still
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  years away from being
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  fully, fully operational.
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  So here are the questions
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  now going forward is one.
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  If the marine land is actually out of
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  money, what happens to these animals?
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  The big thing from the law is that the
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  government will arrange
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  for them to be taken over.
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  So the animal, the care for the animals
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  will be taken over, whether it's in
• 1:13:31
  marine land itself or it's
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  at a different care facility.
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  That is up.
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  We don't know where that's going to
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  happen at this point.
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  The easy question is the easy answer
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  would be at marine land itself where it's
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  staying close and they would
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  have to be cared for there.
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  And I don't know who
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  would put the bill for that.
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  If marine land says it's out of money,
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  it's totally out of money.
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  I don't know what would happen.
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  That could be taxpayers money.
• 1:13:53
  Do Canadians want
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  taxpayer money to go there?
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  Do they have a choice?
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  The law probably says no and somebody
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  will have to put that bill
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  provincial and Canadians.
• 1:14:01
  The province, the premiers already said
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  they don't want to put the
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  bill, but they have to be moved.
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  They just don't know how to move them.
• 1:14:07
  Also, in some of the sanctuaries, they
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  can only probably take about
• 1:14:09
  eight to 10 of the belugas.
• 1:14:11
  They can't take the full 30.
• 1:14:12
  So something's going to
• 1:14:12
  have to be done at some point.
• 1:14:14
  So the other the ethical question here is
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  whales welfare has to come first, but
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  finances and politics should
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  not be an excuse for cruelty.
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  Right.
• 1:14:22
  This is the marine land has been taken
• 1:14:24
  care of these animals for decades and all
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  of a sudden they're out of money and
• 1:14:29
  they're saying, well, we
• 1:14:29
  can't take care of them.
• 1:14:30
  They have an ethical responsibility.
• 1:14:31
  I said this in my last episode.
• 1:14:33
  We have an ethical responsibility to take
• 1:14:35
  care of these animals.
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  If you are going to
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  have a marine theme park.
• 1:14:39
  Now, they also have dolphins.
• 1:14:41
  They had an orca that passed away earlier
• 1:14:43
  this or within the last year.
• 1:14:45
  Obviously these belugas, they have deer
• 1:14:47
  and they also have bears, but they have
• 1:14:48
  to look after as well.
• 1:14:50
  So yes, yes, it's expensive, but that's
• 1:14:52
  the business that they're in.
• 1:14:53
  And that's the the ethical questions that
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  they kind of took on an
• 1:14:56
  ethical responsibility.
• 1:14:58
  So the responsibility
• 1:14:58
  should not be outsourced.
• 1:15:00
  You should not just be able to like take
• 1:15:01
  a take a pen and say, hey, we're going to
• 1:15:03
  ship them off to somewhere else, whether
• 1:15:05
  the sanctuary government
• 1:15:06
  or other animals themselves.
• 1:15:08
  Where do we go with this?
• 1:15:09
  I'd love to hear your
• 1:15:10
  your your opinions on this.
• 1:15:12
  Where do you think
• 1:15:13
  these animals should go?
• 1:15:15
  I actually think they're going to stay in
• 1:15:16
  marine land,
• 1:15:17
  unfortunately, until they pass away.
• 1:15:19
  Some people think that they should be
• 1:15:20
  euthanized just because they can't, you
• 1:15:22
  know, it's it's cruel to keep them in
• 1:15:24
  that in that tank for
• 1:15:25
  the rest of their lives.
• 1:15:27
  But, you know, is it better just to put
• 1:15:30
  them out into the wild in a sanctuary
• 1:15:31
  where they actually have a chance and
• 1:15:33
  maybe live free for just a little bit
• 1:15:35
  longer or somewhat free
• 1:15:36
  for a little bit longer?
• 1:15:38
  These animals have been, you know, abused
• 1:15:40
  just in terms of the actual case that
• 1:15:43
  they've been in, like the the tank that
• 1:15:44
  they've been in for their entire lives.
• 1:15:46
  They've been fed, they've been taken to
• 1:15:47
  like their wild sort of abilities have
• 1:15:51
  been taken away from them without, you
• 1:15:53
  know, their their say
• 1:15:54
  or choice in the matter.
• 1:15:56
  And that's a tough thing to sell.
• 1:15:58
  So this is a big thing.
• 1:16:00
  But what I want you to all do if you
• 1:16:02
  listen to this is
• 1:16:03
  really listen to the facts.
• 1:16:05
  This is not a government problem.
• 1:16:07
  This is not a government's fault for
• 1:16:09
  denying the permit for
• 1:16:10
  these animals to go to China.
• 1:16:11
  They're actually doing a
• 1:16:12
  really good thing here.
• 1:16:13
  They put in the law because of this.
• 1:16:15
  They knew this was
• 1:16:16
  going to start to happen.
• 1:16:17
  They knew marine land was
• 1:16:18
  going to suffer at some point.
• 1:16:19
  They've been suffering for years.
• 1:16:20
  They haven't been able to take care of
• 1:16:21
  these belugas for a long time.
• 1:16:23
  And when they've tried to ship some of
• 1:16:24
  these belugas off, the belugas have died.
• 1:16:27
  So this has been an ongoing issue.
• 1:16:29
  The law is there for a reason.
• 1:16:31
  It's not the government's fault just
• 1:16:32
  because they denied a permit.
• 1:16:33
  Obviously, everybody wants these animals
• 1:16:35
  to be healthy, to be happy.
• 1:16:38
  Unfortunately, in this situation, I just
• 1:16:39
  don't think it's going to happen, whether
• 1:16:42
  they're going to be happy, healthy and
• 1:16:43
  happy in a tank for
• 1:16:44
  the rest of their lives.
• 1:16:45
  I don't know.
• 1:16:46
  But that this point is like not moving
• 1:16:48
  them might be the best way and just
• 1:16:49
  trying to provide the
• 1:16:50
  best care possible for them.
• 1:16:52
  That is the more
• 1:16:53
  realistic answer in my opinion.
• 1:16:55
  But I'd love to hear your opinions.
• 1:16:57
  You know, this is no judgment on anybody.
• 1:17:00
  This is no judgment on whether you want
• 1:17:02
  this these belugas to go out and at sea
• 1:17:05
  and like, you know, good luck to them or
• 1:17:07
  if you want them to be cared for or if
• 1:17:09
  you want them to stay in captivity.
• 1:17:12
  This is a difficult, difficult and
• 1:17:14
  complex situation that is one of those
• 1:17:17
  things where it's sad
• 1:17:18
  to see these belugas.
• 1:17:19
  But it's also something that we, you
• 1:17:21
  know, we need to take care of
• 1:17:22
  them in the best way possible.
• 1:17:25
  And unfortunately, no way is going to be
• 1:17:27
  the best way or the ideal way.
• 1:17:30
  It's just what's best for
• 1:17:31
  these belugas at this point.
• 1:17:33
  But to be honest, I'm a
• 1:17:35
  little angry at Marine land.
• 1:17:37
  I don't think they should have been doing
• 1:17:38
  what they've been doing.
• 1:17:39
  They've been just disappointing these
• 1:17:42
  belugas and orcas and dolphins and other
• 1:17:45
  animals that they take
• 1:17:46
  care of for the last decade.
• 1:17:47
  And it's really sad to see that it's
• 1:17:50
  something that should have
• 1:17:51
  been done a long time ago.
• 1:18:13
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• 1:18:14
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