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did fletcher cancel herself by dating a boy? · gasp! the pod

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It's time to lay down our weapons.
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Listen, even. It's time to lay down.
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Hey Gaspers, welcome back to GASP the Pod, the podcast for
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the gays, the girls, and especially the gay girls.
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This week we're talking about what all the bisexuals and all
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the sapphics and all the lesbians are talking about and
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fighting over. Thought I would bring on one of
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my really good friends from college, fellow sapphic and huge
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Fletcher fan, because I felt like she's the source and what
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we need. We needed her today.
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I brought props also. OK, hold on.
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I'm gonna pull. Props.
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My sign Fletcher, OH. My God.
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She. Is a super fan we needed I
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needed someone from the Fletcher community to give me like their
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two cents anyways, as we all know it's pride.
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What does that mean the bisexuals the lesbians are
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fighting yet again literally on day 2 of pride as if to increase
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the tensions even more and Fletcher saw us all arguing on
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the Internet. She was like let me drop just a
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perfect song for this moment. And in a really brave, brave
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thing, she released a song called Boy.
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She actually came out, I put that in quotes as having a
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boyfriend much the aghast of love lesbians and everyone
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around the world. Also her song was accompanied
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with boy merch and just kind of like what's it called?
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Put salt in the wound. Honestly, that was it for me
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when I saw the boy merch. Lesbians have called out
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Fletcher for her trad wife marketing and poorly timed
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announcement during Pride. Bisexuals are calling out
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lesbians for their reaction saying a lot of this reaction is
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biphobic. Today we are going to discuss
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all of this. Give our two cents, give our
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opinions on it. Yeah, that's why I brought Lexi
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need to talk about it also. Like she had to just come in the
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pod at some point. Like, like inevitable.
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Literally, I'm so excited to be here.
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I. Feel like we're equally online
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as well. Oh, chronically online.
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I've heard every take. I'm very excited to just share
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my opinions. I am the number one Fletcher fan
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and I still might. I don't.
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OK, controversial. I still might be after this, I'm
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gonna be honest. But we're gonna and I.
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Understand. But here's the thing.
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I understand. I've read everything and I
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understand, but I'm we're gonna go back and forth.
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I'm excited to have a productive discussion 'cause.
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I is it gonna be productive? Tell me how you got into
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Fletcher. Yeah, absolutely.
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So COVID was a dark time for everyone, as we know, and I was
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just going through a really hard time and I actually saw.
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Figuring out your sexuality. And may I just add that was like
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the time that me and Lexi got like really close was like when
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college was ending and I felt like, and I won't, you know, put
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any specific details in here, but you definitely were like
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testing the waters with your questions.
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Like I could tell, yes, that you were trying to figure out if you
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were gay in some way. Yeah, no, absolutely.
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Perfect time to start listening to Fletcher.
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Perfect time. Literally kismet.
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So I saw a TikTok of hers and I was like, oh, it was like a duet
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of a TikTok. And this song bitter was and I
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was like, wait, this is good. And I was like going through it
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and I was like, wait, this is eating?
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And it kind of like I kind of relate to the lyrics a little
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bit because I'm feeling bitter. And so I just like went down a
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TikTok rabbit hole as everybody does.
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Like I listened to one song. Then I listened to her EP and I
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was like, I just really like the music and like the lyrics really
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resonated with me at the time. And I just became like,
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obsessed. Like I was watching music
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videos, like I just really latched on.
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And then once like COVID was like a little bit like we were
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able to like gather in groups. I like went to two of her
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concerts and I actually like have made so many friends
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through Fletcher randomly. Like I like would go to the
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concerts by myself randomly because like if my friends
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didn't want to go, I was like, I'm going by myself, 'cause I
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love her music. That's.
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So impressive, like I've always been so impressed.
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You can just like go to concerts by yourself.
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Sometimes, like I go to concerts and I don't want to talk to
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anybody, but with Fletcher I was like, I was just so excited to
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be there. And I've actually like made like
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lifelong friends that I still talk to all the time.
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How many shows do you think you've?
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Been there. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
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It's I think I've been to 9 total.
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That's a pretty significant amount.
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Yes, yes. Is there a Fletcher?
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Fanbase name Yes, we are the Fletch fam.
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Fletch, Fam. I feel like.
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The Fletchys. The Fletchy I know.
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Well, now we might be the Carey Colts or.
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Something wait really it's that OK, wait pin so important to
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have you on because the things that I don't know.
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I got it. Yeah, I don't even think, I
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said, but welcome to the pod. Thank you.
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I'm excited to be here. I just want to say some
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Ren. Thank you so much for listening,
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and yeah, happy pride, Lexi, since I've seen you, I feel like
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I've so many little things have like come up in my life.
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Like, I don't know if Mercury's in retrograde or something, but
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I told you about how my car got towed.
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My car got towed yesterday. Homophobic.
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It's homophobic. I am so bad at misplacing
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things. I came home from the store and I
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was going to throw away some trash in the trash chute of my
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apartment building. I have the car keys.
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Remember of the car that was just towed yesterday?
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What happened? I had accidentally thrown my car
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keys down the trash chute. Wait, Oh my God.
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Wait. What do they do?
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What do you? Do on my apartment building and
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I literally had a freak out alone.
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I panicked. How did I just do that like how
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did I even just do that like I threw it away with my trash down
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the trash shoot. How am I gonna get another key?
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I can't tell Sophia because, like I we I just had our car
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towed yesterday like I can't have something wrong again.
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So I went down the front desk and me and four other people
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went through the trash. Like this huge trash thing.
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Yes, this happened an hour ago girl in the basement of my
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apartment building and I fucking found it.
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Oh my God, I can't believe you found it.
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I'm. Shocked that I found it.
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I literally was like starting to pray to God for the first time.
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While Saint Anthony, literally. Was like, thank you Saint
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Anthony, like. Classic Haley story.
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I'm glad you found them because something is in the air,
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something is not right. What is going on, you know?
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I think it's pride in Trump's America.
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No, and that was never supposed to happen.
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That wasn't something that should be happening.
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It's just everything's amiss. That's why all of the queer
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celebrities have lost their minds this month.
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Dude, OK, And now great segue. We can get it.
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I do think that that's a reason why a lot of people are more
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upset about a lot of we need to call it something.
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I know that it was like the lesbian apocalypse like 2 years
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ago. Maybe we need to bring back
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lesbian apocalypse. Boy gay like.
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Billy, it's Clairo. JoJo Siwa.
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And I know it's not all the same because like, not all of them
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identified as lesbians. They're not necessarily like,
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coming out as straight. We are losing lesbian
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representation. Yeah, and it's hard because I
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see both sides of it, like they're obviously so valid, but
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it's hard when it was like such a big moment and then now it's
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not that moment anymore. And it just feels like they're
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maybe not as open about being queer because of the current
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climate we're in. And it just like it just feels
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stifling, even if it's not necessarily what exactly is
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happening. It's just the context just makes
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it. Yeah, right.
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And it's like, yes, I and no, I guess, like specifically with
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Fletcher, that this is Fletcher's personal journey.
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Yeah. But she has to realize that
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like, she's she was only one of the few, like, singer
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songwriters that, I don't know, people associated with, like,
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lesbianism. Yes.
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And was only in that in the Sapphic world, like, not in the
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same way that, like Miley Cyrus, like everyone knows is like,
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queer, bisexual. But yeah, like, she was like,
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even if she wasn't a lesbian, has never identified as a
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lesbian, she still was associated like as a lesbian.
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And when you were unveiling that you're dating a guy and she knew
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it was, it's going to be an interesting thing to announce to
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people. Think about your marketing.
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I don't know. You know, I know it's hard
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because on the one hand, it's obviously like bad timing.
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I feel like announcing like that you're dating a man during Pride
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month is like, she knew it was going to be bad.
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That's the thing. She knew it was going to be bad.
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Some people are like, she should have released it in a different
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month. I feel like she would have
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gotten the same backlash no matter what month it was, to be
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honest. People would be upset and just
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critique her for dating a man, you know, having a sapphic
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audience, like, you know. And she's never said she's a
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lesbian, right? And like, I think her real fans,
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like, not Well, yeah, her real fans like the people who like,
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care about her, I think that they know that they're not.
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You think so? Did you like know that she
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wasn't like necessarily like a lesbian?
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So this. Is good context.
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So in a interview that she did with a magazine, it might have
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been like Gay Times or Them. She is like, has this quote of
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how she's always felt queer and that a specific label has not
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defined her and that she feels much like broader and bigger
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than to be defined by any label in her sexuality.
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And she got a lot of critique and hate for that.
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People were ripping her apart. Yeah.
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And like it was a smaller conversation because I think it
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was more kind of like internal discussion that my other thing
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too is I think that everyone is like always gonna like critique
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Fletcher. Like a lot of people just
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straight up don't like her. And you know what?
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Like if that's your MO, like that's fine.
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So all that's to say is I think that like, she knows that she's
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going to get critiqued. But was Pride Month the best
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month to do it? Maybe not.
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But also like, I don't know, like obviously bisexuals and
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pansexuals and queer people still belong at Pride.
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So I like see both sides of it. I'm like, OK, well, she's
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obviously still queer and like it's still Pride month for her
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too. But it's also like the song was
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so male centric. Yes.
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Totally. OK, So a few things you said
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there. First of all, I had no idea that
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she did that interview. And like, I remember people
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pointing out that like, she had maybe written a song about a
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guy. Or did you tell me that?
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Interesting like in her songs she has like 2 or 3 songs and I
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could probably like regurgitate the lyrics where she talks about
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formerly falling in love with guys.
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So like girl of my dreams, she opens it with with like there
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was a boy who had the greenest eyes.
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I think is the lyrics. She another song where she's
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talking about like I've broken girls hearts and boys hearts
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too. So but it's none of her like big
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singles or songs that are really popular.
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So she's like referenced men before, but like in her past.
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So I feel like in my head, I was, I was like, kind of biased
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too. I was like, oh, she's like, just
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gay. And like her writing about those
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men. Like in her past, it wasn't just
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her being, like, heteronormative or hadn't realized she's gay
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yet. Like, I think that she really
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does look at this equally. And I think for me and a lot of
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other fans too, it was like, no, she's really bisexual,
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pansexual, queer, however you want to label it.
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And like, yeah. But.
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You know, it's just hard. It's hard because people assume
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it is. Hard.
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And I feel like I didn't think that she was necessarily a
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lesbian, but I guess I just didn't think that dating men was
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ever on her horizon. Like, yeah.
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And like, maybe she didn't choose it because like in the
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lyrics it says like, oh, like, should we read the lyrics of boy
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I don't. Know if I could read the lyrics
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like I I'm gonna make the and I love so much I tried to.
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Play the song for Sophia and she literally wouldn't listen to it,
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not 'cause she was like, oh, whatever, but she was just like,
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it's so bad. Like it's like his lips were
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soft. Oh, I his lips were soft.
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I had no choice. Girl, you sound like me writing
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a song in 6th grade. Yeah, that's the other hard
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truth that I don't want to contribute to like her negative
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and and I'm not hating, but it's not her Best Song.
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It's not her most well written song and she's not known for
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like her song. I've seen a lot of discourse
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about like her other songs that are more tongue in cheek.
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They're they use kind of Internet language of like flame
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emoji. Wow.
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It like that kind of stuff where it's like fun and silly because
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the song isn't necessarily serious.
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Like all of her songs are fun or toxic or like.
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Right in. This song, she's still trying to
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use that social media language, but the song is supposed to be
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serious and vulnerable and it just, it doesn't really strike
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the right tone. That's.
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Such a good point because like when she uses those lyrics like
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like the lyric in boy, is it called boy or is it called the
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boy? No.
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It's called boy. It's called Boy Girl.
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I mean that's the issue. It's like if she had released a
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song during Pride Being and like, the whole thing was like,
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I kiss girls, I kiss guys. I'm still gay, happy Pride.
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Like, no one would care. OK, That's not true.
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I'm sure there were still people that would care.
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I wouldn't care. Yeah.
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And it's like. I kissed a boy.
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It's like the whole thing is about, boy, I don't care what
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your identity is, I don't want to hear about a street man
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during pride. And I'm like, I don't even want
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to. Like the flame emoji wow thing I
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thought was always a little cringy, but it was OK because
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the song was so fucking fire and Becky's so hot.
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The I know it wasn't on your bingo card saying in like a soft
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way. I was just like, Oh my God,
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yeah, it. It didn't, it didn't resonate as
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well and it wasn't. And I completely agree about the
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song being so male centric. And I think I've seen a lot of
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that conversation online too, exactly what you said of like if
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it was more about her attraction to both men and women and
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whoever else. Like it's just all about the
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guy. Very like male centric kind of
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like what it's just like. So yeah.
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And then another thing too that I always think about is like, is
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this all just payback for Becky so hot?
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Like, is she just like I'm so like, I just, I can't with her.
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I don't know, like, I love her so much, but she stirs up this
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controversy and she. Absolutely does, and it's.
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A part of her marketing and it's like, I don't know, I think
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we're all getting kind of tired. I don't know.
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I don't want to see her like getting hated online, but it's
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like, girl, this is what you want, I guess.
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I don't know it's. So weird too, because her
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attitude during Becky's So Hot and like during her tweets and
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everything was like standing firm with what she was doing.
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And honestly, even though it was like kind of toxic behaviour,
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what she was doing with Becky's So Hot and we talked about this,
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at the time, I didn't really feel like it was that
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problematic. But obviously it was in order to
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stir up drama because it's something that I would do.
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Of course, of course, like. Write a song about like my ex's
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new girlfriend or something. Like I feel like I would do
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that. She was just like leaning into
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it and like she obviously wanted the drama, but it's weird that
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now she knew that this was going to cause drama.
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But her reaction is not like, no, I'm going to stand firm on
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this. It's kind of like, if you I hope
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you guys still like me. And it's like the reason why
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that's frustrating is because she's not really doing something
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that outside of this very specific community would be
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considered groundbreaking, right?
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Right, you're completely right of how her persona used to be
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like unapologetic and like a little like fierce.
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I don't know what's like, I want to say bitchy.
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I don't know if I could call someone else bitchy, but it
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means. Some energy.
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Yes, me and fem, like I don't give a fuck and you're going to
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deal with it. And I think that like it's so
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interesting. I think a lot of people
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obviously are critiquing that like being in a heteronormative
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relationship is like not a big deal.
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But it is hard because I think that she does know that her fans
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are going to be pissed and like everyone's going to be upset.
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And I do like empathize with her in the way of she knew what the
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reaction was going to be and everyone is kind of proving her
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point. It's also hard because she is
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taking such like a a sad. What is that like just sad and
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like. So it's like difficult because I
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think that two things can be true at once, like if another.
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Fletcher song. Sorry, had to say yeah.
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Yeah, I feel like she absolutely knew that she was going to get
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hate. And I feel bad that, like, you
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know, she has to lose fans like, based on who she's dating
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because I don't think, like, who she's dating is the problem.
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However, like, if she was my friend, I would be like, EW, why
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are you dating a man? So.
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So I think like, she's getting backlash.
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She's also getting like, really mean backlash.
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The question is, I mean, we can get into this like, a little bit
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later. What is biphobic and what is
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just hate? Yeah, yeah.
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Well, and we are the. Ones to solve it we.
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Me and you, we're going to solve it right here, right now.
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Time. Call the human rights.
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Yeah, no. Send give us a call, we'll go
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through the comment and we'll decide is that biphopic or not?
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And what we say is law, actually.
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So I we've never been wrong, ever.
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I actually have correct opinions about everything.
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Absolutely. Name a time.
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I can't. I personally can't.
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No. I was just gonna say I think
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that the only. I feel like it's a little
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biphobic for all of us. I don't know.
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Maybe. I don't know.
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I don't know. OK, OK, here's the thing.
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Is it kind of biphobic just to assume that Fletcher is just
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going to date women? I don't know, Like, do you know
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what I mean? It's like, if we're just going
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to, because in the same way that it's biphobic of like assuming
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that someone's only going to date a man, like, I don't know.
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I just feel like we're women. We have to wrestle with the fact
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that we just all assumed something.
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And then Fletcher kind of subverted that expectation.
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And I feel like a lot of this is like internal disappointment.
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And it's not. I'm like, is it Fletcher's
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fault? The marketing maybe her fault,
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but you know what I mean? What do you think I mean?
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OK. So I did find out this news
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before she dropped it and inside sources.
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I do think that my reaction was like, oh, that's so
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disappointing that like I can't really relate to her music
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anymore. But I wasn't really like mad at
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her, if that makes sense. But I was more like I just felt
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a little bit more removed. Like I didn't feel like I was
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like, hey, as focused on like her and what she was doing.
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And now I'm like annoyed and like, I wouldn't say angry at
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the marketing. It's hard to think about like
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what the response would be if she just like posted her
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boyfriend like on her Instagram and then like released like a
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pride song, you know what I mean?
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But I see what your point is. I do think that there's a level
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of like just assuming that she was a lesbian because she's
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like. In a sapphic space like.
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If she like like did a tell all interview or like, you know,
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worked with like, I don't know, some like publication.
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Yeah. And like, I just wonder if she
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like launched her boyfriend in a different, softer way and didn't
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make the whole song and album release about it.
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Like, I feel like it wouldn't be as big of a deal.
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But the the song is really where I like I can.
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I like the music. I like need to face the music,
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like literally and figuratively. I'm like, I can't get, I passed
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that because I just don't enjoy the song and it I feel very
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removed, you know? Yeah.
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It's like clouding my judgement like genuinely like I'm kind of
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forgetting who she is. Like if she was wearing like a
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hot outfit and like post it genuinely, if she released a
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great album that was like she can mention him, I don't care.
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But it's like good music and it's not like soft baking bread,
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whatever. And then like released an
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Instagram and she's wearing like a normal outfit that she would
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wear and like she looks hot like behind the stage, like kissing a
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guy or something. I genuinely don't think I would
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be as pissed. Yeah, exactly that would seem.
21:17
Like something she would do. Like it just feels like she's
21:19
like not who she is. And maybe we can go into the
21:22
cult allegations. Wait.
21:24
Let's get into this because all compounded by the carry of it
21:29
all the like the song almost sounds country her.
21:34
She's in a field. It is such a tone shift from why
21:37
I love Fletcher. I love her being unapologetic
21:40
and a little messy and a little dramatic, right.
21:43
And none of this is that. And so I'm just like, on top of
21:46
her dating a man, which is, you know, fine, all good love
21:49
bisexuals. But then this whole tone shift,
21:52
like what? I just, that's where I'm like,
21:55
is the album even gonna be good now?
21:58
OK, that she's dating this guy, that she's, it's like this soft
22:02
love. Yeah, and I and I can see, I
22:05
actually genuinely don't think she went into it with like super
22:09
bad intent, but I also think she knew that there was going to be
22:13
some drama. And I bet her marketing team was
22:15
like, let's just send it, don't shy away from it.
22:19
Just like make it your whole new thing.
22:21
Lean into it song. That's boy merch, that's boy bam
22:26
bam bam. And like, I think she felt like
22:27
she had to do this whole rebrand in order to like make sense of
22:30
it, but. The B.
22:32
Brand is what's the really the problem?
22:35
Yes. I completely agree with you, she
22:38
did not mean to have bad intentions but it is hard.
22:42
The compounding of everything, the boy, the heteronormativeness
22:46
of the relationship, the soft girl era, her name, her being
22:51
Carrie instead of Fletcher and then kind of the the outfit her
22:55
out in nature. It just feels like a 180 from
22:58
literally this. Like great.
23:01
Yeah, I think this could have been the same album cover with
23:04
her dating a man. Yep.
23:06
And she could have put, she could have put a boy boy on this
23:08
album because it it like, you know, I just don't.
23:11
Yeah. Honestly, genuinely, if she
23:13
should have called me boy on that it would have been almost
23:16
OK is. It my favorite Fletcher song.
23:19
No. Even said like she had her own
23:21
questions when she fell in love with this guy.
23:23
But then have you heard that maybe that this isn't her first
23:26
boyfriend? Have you heard that?
23:27
Yeah. Let's talk about that.
23:30
The theory is that the first guy was like this band member guy
23:35
from some band. I looked him up.
23:37
He's not cute enough for Fletcher to be dating him.
23:39
And honestly, and I'm I'm not even gonna shy away from this.
23:43
I don't want anyone to date a man.
23:45
And I think it's just more like for me, man hating behavior.
23:51
The second guy is like a finance guy, OK?
23:55
Apparently he's the CEO of Liquid Ivy.
23:58
I like this is not confirmed. I'm really just I'm very like
24:02
good for her to get that back. I don't know.
24:04
I just don't know. I.
24:06
Also hate that there was a man out there and not just one, two
24:09
that felt like, oh, I can get, I can get it.
24:13
I can get her. Yeah.
24:15
Yeah. Changing her because she's
24:16
queer, but just like, why do you think that she would?
24:20
Oh, I hate that. Did you?
24:23
See so the first guy is named Jaguar Twin, I think is his
24:27
name. OK yes.
24:29
So he was going to open for her on her Australian leg of her
24:33
tour because I think he's Australian 1 + 1.
24:36
So he was associated with a like yoga spiritual group that some
24:44
would compared to a cult. I don't know much about this.
24:51
Yes. So this organization, a
24:54
spiritual organization that does like lots of yoga practices and
24:58
things they had like mis sexual misconduct allegations when he
25:05
was her opener on tour, everyone was like up in arms like why is
25:09
this guy that's associated with this organization that does not
25:12
respect women? Like why are you even
25:14
entertaining that? So he was then removed as her
25:18
tour opener. Then everyone found out that
25:21
Carrie Fletcher is also on that cult website, right?
25:26
So, but then and then she was like, I think that she like
25:29
removed herself and she kind of explained like I think what kind
25:32
of happened was like, I don't think she fully realized like
25:35
what that organization was. And I think she took like a
25:37
entry level yoga class or like did like went to like a workshop
25:41
or something. And then they kind of attached
25:43
her name to the organization. This is all like speculation.
25:46
Obviously, I don't know the truth, but I that's what I feel
25:50
probably happened is that she didn't really know what she was
25:52
getting herself into then. Now everyone is kind of piercing
25:58
together that maybe Jaguar twin and her like dated or they were
26:02
probably in a situationship or something.
26:04
Because. And this is all backed up
26:06
because on his Twitter he released like a demo of a song
26:10
that was like, hope you find your antidote.
26:12
And that's obviously the name of her most recent album in search
26:15
of the antidote, which is crazy. And I'm like, like, did she lead
26:23
him on? Or maybe they were in a
26:25
relationship? Or maybe he felt like maybe she
26:28
didn't want him? I don't know.
26:29
I could weave stories and stories, but it's right.
26:32
And maybe she was like, I can't be associated with this cult
26:35
anymore. So he was.
26:37
Promoting it on social media. And I think he had perhaps like
26:41
a smaller position in the organization.
26:44
I think him being associated in any way with that organization
26:47
was like, you know, enough to, yeah, problematic.
26:51
So I've also heard conversations that some people are worried
26:55
that she still might be associated with that
26:57
organization, but I don't really know if that's true.
27:00
But I think just with this whole context of everything going on
27:04
of like Carrie, the natural, it just it's all kind of giving
27:07
that same like yeah, full healing like vibe and you're.
27:12
Like running through the fields and you are suddenly Carrie and
27:18
you're like, this is like, would you still love me if you knew
27:20
who I really was? Like, this is more like who she
27:22
really is. And she unveils the boyfriend.
27:26
It's just like, from a fan's perspective, you know, you're
27:29
seeing a lot of change. And even if it's not actually
27:32
change, it like is outward marketing change of her persona?
27:38
Yes, I have so many thoughts about this.
27:41
So Carrie Fletcher is her name OK?
27:43
And she is always talked about in her interview since her debut
27:47
album, before the debut album, she's always talked about how
27:52
Fletcher is kind of her Sasha Fierce, her stage persona,
27:56
right? And how she kind of like, cuz
27:58
Fletcher in real life is very like more like soft spoken, very
28:02
chill. And you would know.
28:05
Lexi spent a whole day with Fletcher when you met up with
28:09
her. Was this before or after she was
28:11
dating a guy based on the timeline we know now?
28:14
It was before when I've met Fletcher in meet and greets and
28:18
other things, she's like very shy, very reserved.
28:22
Like she's not super outgoing or crazy.
28:25
So she's always associated Fletcher as this like bigger
28:29
than life persona that she puts on and embodies when she's on
28:32
stage. Then as her career has evolved
28:35
and progressed, she's always talked about the reconciliation
28:39
between Carrie and Fletcher and how she is trying to find
28:42
balance between them. And I think that as she's gotten
28:46
older and evolved and gone through life, like I think that
28:49
she almost was trying to blend Carrie and Fletcher.
28:53
And that's what she talked about in In Search of the Antidote is
28:55
how she wants to find the balance of Carrie, Carrie and
28:58
Fletcher. Now I'm a little bit worried
29:01
because she's like, no, it's all Carrie and me and I feel like
29:06
maybe the spin is like she wants to, you know, reveal the like
29:09
more softer side of herself. But again, with the context of
29:13
boy, it's just concerning. Even if this is like true,
29:18
nothing to do with being, you know, in this relationship or
29:21
being associated with XY and Z. It's still like, it's all just
29:25
bad timing and we haven't heard the album.
29:27
So maybe it is still like some Fletcher and there's some
29:30
craziness, some dramatics, but this is it's just poor timing
29:34
because she has been talking about this, but I don't think
29:36
many, like, people have been paying as deep of attention as I
29:40
have. And her fans have, you know?
29:41
So yeah. Totally.
29:43
OK, that's very good insight. Because right.
29:46
Like even if she is still trying to figure out the balance
29:49
between the two from a fans perspective, it's like Fletcher
29:53
was abandoned. Yes, is now Carrie.
29:58
And but as much as she's been queer this entire time and has
30:01
never identified as a lesbian, like even though, you know,
30:06
maybe we shouldn't assume that everyone who's like been dating
30:09
women for a long time is a lesbian.
30:11
She is associated and referred to as a lesbian.
30:16
She has to know that that was happening.
30:18
And now Fletcher, the persona has now been associated with,
30:22
like, lesbian, whether or not that's like, her fault.
30:25
And now Carrie is the one that dates boys, like, and even
30:30
though she's like been queer the entire time, it's just now
30:34
that's kind of the album we're like, sitting with, you know?
30:37
Yeah, absolutely. And it's hard.
30:40
It's hard because this new lead single for her next album isn't
30:44
gonna resonate with the majority of her audience, right?
30:47
Yeah. It genuinely feels like I work
30:51
in marketing. It just feels like a bad
30:53
marketing move. Like, why are you gonna give a
30:54
product to your audience that does not resonate with?
30:58
It's not gonna enjoy. But that's the thing, She
31:00
doesn't. She.
31:01
Doesn't owe her fans like it. It's like this has been a whole
31:04
other back and forth. What does she owe her fans?
31:07
Her fans like, you know, what are they entitled to know?
31:10
Like, right, they're not entitled to know everything.
31:13
Or I don't know, is is Fletcher in service of her fans?
31:16
Or I mean, she really, because she kind of really just did this
31:18
for herself, right? And like, right, like.
31:20
Yes, like, you can do this for yourself, but also just be aware
31:23
that, like, you're probably gonna lose people that won't
31:25
resonate with your music anymore.
31:27
Hi, Leslie. Hi.
31:28
Sophia, she just came back from work.
31:31
This is kind of the conversation me and my friends who are fans
31:34
of Fletcher I've been having is like, can she even recover from
31:37
this? It's going to be, I think it's
31:39
going to be more challenging than her other controversies,
31:42
totally. Is it a marketing move in order
31:45
to just find a whole new group of fans?
31:48
I think she's going to lose a lot of fans.
31:50
And I think a lot of the people that she's losing aren't
31:52
necessarily being like, oh, fuck you, but maybe just like can't
31:59
relate. Because like, from my
32:00
perspective, I wouldn't never say like, oh, I'm a Fletcher
32:03
fan. Like, I've listened to a lot of
32:05
her songs, but I'm not like, seeking out her music, you know?
32:10
And so I feel a lot of the reason why I was listening to it
32:12
is because it was like, Sapphic. And will I be inclined to listen
32:16
to her? Probably not, because the whole
32:17
reason I was listening to her is because she was like, talking
32:20
about women in her songs. Yeah.
32:22
It's going to be really interesting, and I'm interested
32:24
to see what the album consists of.
32:26
The other thing is that the album comes out in July, So why
32:32
did she feel the need to release it during Pride?
32:35
It's obviously on purpose and obviously she's queer.
32:39
She can only say anything on pride.
32:40
But like, I don't know, it's just like even when you are by
32:44
and dating a man during pride, is that the focus of your pride?
32:49
The man? It's fine, but like maybe your
32:54
sapphic listeners like won't. I don't see that being a good
32:58
marketing decision. It's.
32:59
Just hard because the whole thing is heteronormative, even
33:04
if she herself is queer. And I just struggle with like,
33:07
she obviously still has a place at Pride and like and she's able
33:10
to do whatever she wants. It's just, it was weird.
33:13
It was just weird timing, weird, weird timing.
33:16
I. Understand the merch was like
33:18
donated. Wait, what are you going to say?
33:20
That the merch has is all donated to Trans Life, which is
33:23
good, but I'm not buying it. No.
33:26
Why would I buy that? I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
33:30
Like I would buy it. Like like it's not even like her
33:32
face is on it. It's just boy.
33:35
And so it's like yes, like it's not even like it's like queer
33:38
proud. Like that's you're releasing
33:40
stuff during Pride that doesn't feel pride focused or about her
33:44
identity. Boy, it's just boy.
33:47
It's like literally so bad camp I can't even explain it.
33:51
But like a shirt with boy on it when you're pitching it to a
33:55
mostly sapphic lesbian fan base, it's not going to go over well.
34:00
And not because people are like fuck you, but it's more like
34:03
what? What?
34:04
I know I agree. I Fletcher's merch has can have
34:08
some improvements, I will say, and not just this era, every era
34:11
I'm like some of it we could have hit harder.
34:13
Even if the donations do go to Trans Life Organization, like
34:16
obviously that's amazing, but I think it was the least she could
34:19
do after this whole controversy. It is the.
34:23
Least that she can do branding of boy, it's soft girl, but it's
34:28
also trad wife baking bread vibes.
34:32
And that's like, and not even that she's that she would be a
34:36
trad wife, but that's just the aesthetic that look we're seeing
34:39
coming around and like as a recession indicator.
34:43
And like with just like the culture getting so conservative,
34:46
like even influencers are like, Oh my God, something that like
34:49
you want to lean into and it's like triad wife, like even the
34:51
ones you don't even think would like give that.
34:54
It's like all soft girl country getting more modest and
34:57
conservative. And I understand that probably
35:01
wasn't her intention to give off trap wife.
35:03
Hopefully I don't think it was. But it's like you have to think
35:07
about how something's going to come off in the current culture,
35:10
even though it was your personal decision.
35:12
And same thing with the JoJo Siwa and less kind of with the
35:15
Billie Eilish and Clara, because they didn't really do any
35:17
marketing or like fucking anything around that or like any
35:20
press or anything. But same thing with like JoJo
35:23
Siwa saying like, Oh, sexuality is fluid.
35:25
You have to be careful about what you say because, like,
35:28
unfortunately, there are only so many, like, queer celebrities.
35:32
There's crazy conservatives being like Oh my God, look, a
35:34
man can turn Fletcher straight. Yeah, it's just so interesting
35:39
that parallels like with JoJo, because she wants to go by
35:44
Joelle. It's very similar to Carrie and
35:47
Fletcher. Keep your.
35:50
Name, keep your name and be queer and keep your stage name.
35:56
Like I don't get like why you're a soft girl because you're
35:59
fucking a man. Yeah, have you seen that thing
36:03
on TikTok of girls are wearing like milk maid dresses in the
36:06
club and the shorts, the skirts are getting long.
36:09
Exactly. I don't know how to explain it,
36:12
but it's like this fashion thing that's changing, too.
36:16
Yeah, Yeah. And it's like soft girl
36:18
feminine, like, lean into your feminine energy and oh, you're
36:22
like, submissive, like, let him like lead you.
36:24
And that's not something Fletcher's pushing, but like in
36:27
intentionally. What would have been so Fletcher
36:29
is if she was, like, saying a song about having a boyfriend
36:32
then being like, I top him or some fucking shit.
36:36
Like, I don't know, like, oh, like I peg like, yeah, like, I
36:40
feel like that sounds like something Fletcher would do and
36:42
everyone be like, OK for like, I don't know, like, no, no.
36:46
No, no, no, I agree. But The thing is it's like I she
36:49
wants to lean into this Carrie side of her, which isn't like
36:53
that. I guess we don't know.
36:55
I guess we're going to find out. But I'm also just like, that's
36:57
not the Fletcher that we have known and how she grew her fan
37:02
base. And I feel like the music is
37:05
going to totally shift as well. I'm nervous, I'm nervous, I'm
37:10
nervous. It's very weird.
37:12
The opposite of folklore it got. In the wait, is that what she's
37:17
doing? Is she trying to like, have her
37:19
folklore? I think.
37:20
She's trying to have a folklore moment, but here's the thing,
37:22
you have to have good lyrics. And the reason why folklore is
37:27
good is because he was so fucking gay too.
37:30
So it was like the opposite, like Taylor Swift, like suddenly
37:32
like getting more gay and folklore is like the opposite of
37:37
Carrie Fletcher getting straighter and more actually.
37:42
I never thought about it being her folklore, but that's what
37:46
exactly what it's maybe giving is like she wants to have this
37:49
vibe shift. She wants to unlock this new
37:51
audience with this new music. But I just it feels a little
37:56
early. I feel like she could still
37:58
continue to establish herself, but I don't know.
38:01
But here's the thing, right? Right.
38:02
She hasn't like fully gotten to. I think she needed one more
38:05
album of being like Fletcher. Yeah.
38:08
And also just don't align that with your boy drop.
38:13
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's like, here's the thing, all of the
38:17
aesthetic, the vibe ship, everything could have been fine.
38:19
But it's also coinciding with this boy era that is making it a
38:25
little bit more uncomfortable. It's hard because she's a
38:28
person, but it's also her job and her business.
38:31
But people aren't like, marketable products.
38:34
But it's, I'm trying to go back and forth on like, my, like,
38:37
capitalistic, like marketing view.
38:39
And then it's like, no, she's a human being with experiences,
38:42
right. So it's like, who are we to say
38:44
that she can't, you know? Yeah.
38:46
Produce art about her own experiences, even if it's not
38:49
what we want to hear or what she formerly was.
38:51
I don't know. It's hard.
38:52
I I grapple with both sides of it.
38:54
Yeah. I think that's so fair.
38:55
I think like she can release whatever she wants and it just
39:00
may not work out to be the best thing for your brand and
39:05
business. Yes, exactly, exactly.
39:08
And that's OK. And maybe she's fine with that.
39:09
Honestly, she's so that. Maybe she's cancelling herself.
39:14
Like the level of fame that some artists want to have, Like I
39:18
think Chapel Rhone, I don't think she expected to be as
39:21
popular as she is. And then I think an artist like
39:25
Renee Rapp maybe wants to be bigger and it's still kind of
39:28
growing on that journey. And then like Fletcher, I would
39:32
say is on par or maybe not as popular as Renee Rapp, but I I
39:37
just like and I just wonder like what goes through these greatest
39:40
heads? Like do they want to be mega
39:42
stars and ultra famous? Do they just want to be gay,
39:45
famous and just, you know, make money and read the good?
39:48
Point. You know, like Fletcher is kind
39:51
of the same thing with Renee. Maybe she's using this to
39:53
catapult her into like, mainstream pop music.
39:57
Maybe, and that's what I'm wondering, I'm like, is she
39:59
going to find a new audience that because her music is more
40:03
from the mass appeal, like will she maybe find a new audience?
40:07
I was just thinking. About Sabrina Carpenter and like
40:09
releasing a man child and like how almost opposite it is.
40:13
I hate you men, you're dumb and I blame your mom and like she
40:17
says that and we're all like yes, like it's just pretty funny
40:22
that like of all celebrities, she's and she's like technically
40:25
straight. She's appearing the most man
40:28
hating pardon people survive the bangers era today.
40:33
No, no, they would never. They would never survive the
40:37
Today. They wouldn't.
40:39
Be able to handle it OK. That's the other thing too.
40:41
It's like, is this just going to be another controversy that we
40:44
talked about for two weeks and then Fletcher's going to release
40:46
the album and then like the fans are going to come out and be
40:50
like, guys, it's not that bad. Like that's what I also wonder
40:53
is if like if this is a flash in the pan or is this like a
40:56
permanent stain on her reputation, right?
41:00
I feel like we won't we won't know until yeah, the album comes
41:04
out. OK, let's talk about the
41:06
different POV's, what we think. I think that there's very good
41:11
points on both sides. Bisexuals are such a huge and
41:15
like queer people, queer people that aren't like firmly I am gay
41:19
or I'm a lesbian. There's so many ways to be
41:23
bisexual. And so I feel like when we talk
41:26
about bisexuals as a monolith and bisexuals is like only
41:29
dating men, like we almost need to like narrow it down when
41:32
we're talking about certain people.
41:33
There are a lot of bisexuals. A lot.
41:35
I think this is coming from like the lesbian point of view that
41:38
are like not fully ingrained in like queer spaces, which it's
41:43
like, maybe you're just talking about baby gays.
41:45
Like when we talk about bisexuals, you can't just say
41:48
bisexuals are like gay light. And like, that's totally
41:51
biphobia that we're seeing like on the Internet.
41:53
And I think that there is something to be said for people
41:58
recognizing their, I don't know, privilege when you're in a
42:02
relationship. That's what the opposite sex,
42:06
right? It's hard.
42:09
It's hard and it's like there can, I think like there can be
42:12
valid criticism from both acts. Yeah, like, you're obviously
42:16
still bisexual, but you'd be remiss not to, like, understand
42:21
that you still, like, if you're in a heteronormative
42:23
relationship, like, you don't have to be worried about, you
42:27
know, harassment on the street or people treating you
42:29
differently. And I feel like Fletcher's kind
42:32
of point of view with this song doesn't really acknowledge that.
42:37
Not that it has to, but it's it's interesting that she's kind
42:41
of not acknowledging any sort of privilege that she has.
42:44
She's very worried about the fan reaction, which is also
42:47
obviously valid, but this is. Like the same lesbian point of
42:50
view. And when I say like lesbian
42:51
point of view and bisexual point of view doesn't mean like it is
42:54
the point of view, but just like the overwhelming Internet
42:58
opinions from largely this identity, yeah.
43:03
Absolutely, yeah. And so it's like the lesbian
43:05
point of view is like this self pitying of her song being like,
43:10
I'm so scared to tell you guys this.
43:13
Right. And it's, I don't think she was
43:15
actually saying this is the same experience as like, dating a
43:18
woman. And like, I am facing the same
43:21
experience. But I can see that that feels
43:24
like a quitting coming out as dating a guy is like, the same
43:28
thing as, like coming out as dating a girl.
43:30
Yeah. It's very, yeah, it's not, it's
43:32
obviously not the same thing, but maybe to her fanbase it, it
43:36
feels like that it's the same nerves, it's the same
43:39
anticipating a reaction. But it is hard cuz she's kind of
43:43
looking at it at this like micro level of like her fanbase and
43:46
their reaction. But it's like, OK, when you pull
43:48
back at the macro lens, it's like, obviously you know you're
43:53
going to be fine in Northern California and regular society.
43:56
So. Yeah, yeah.
43:58
When you zoom in, in your very specific experience, Fletcher,
44:04
this is going to have backlash like, and she's scared to do
44:10
something. But that is not necessarily the
44:12
same fear. If you're like most people,
44:16
aren't pop stars trying to tell their fans something.
44:20
And I think that a lot of like lesbians and gay people almost
44:24
feel like just offended that she would even equate like a
44:28
heteronormative relationship to like a coming out or like that
44:31
kind of same fear. Even if that is Fletcher's
44:34
experience. I think that it almost feels
44:36
insensitive to the, like the weight of LGBTQ people in
44:40
America right now, right? It's like feels a little just
44:45
all color like not really aware of her like eco political,
44:51
social. It's.
44:53
Just like, is this really the time to?
44:55
Yeah. Right, like the very crazy time
45:00
in politics right now. Like, what are most vulnerable
45:02
members? Is it Fletcher telling her fans
45:04
that she's dating a boy? She can still speak and she
45:08
feelings. But like when I was not dating a
45:13
girl, like I couldn't even imagine how different it would
45:17
feel. Like it's just completely
45:20
different. The experience of like dating a
45:23
girl and not dating a girl or like being in like an outward
45:27
gay relationship, like you, it's just not even close to the same
45:32
thing. And so like the privileges are
45:34
very different. So I feel like a lot of the
45:36
times that discourse is like missed online or not given
45:40
enough credit. And not everything is biphobia
45:43
when it's like honestly valid criticism of like people
45:46
recognizing their privilege. And I would say that to like
45:49
someone who's like them passing like both me.
45:52
And we're not going to get harassed on the street because
45:54
we don't look gay. No.
45:56
And that doesn't mean we're not gay.
45:58
But yeah. But it's like, obviously there's
46:00
a privilege in that and it's and I and it's like, can Fletcher
46:03
say all of that in a song? No, that's.
46:06
That's true. Right, but and she's trying in
46:09
interviews, right, She well, I mean, I'm reading the bottoms of
46:12
the articles, right, Not everyone is, but you know, she's
46:17
trying to direct like she has said that she goes, obviously my
46:20
love life is not the biggest point of conversation right now.
46:23
Trans lives are at stake, like we need to be advocating and
46:25
protecting them. And she's trying to get the at
46:28
that in the press. It's just hard because not
46:30
everybody's going to take the time to do that deep dive on her
46:34
and this great. Song isn't good.
46:37
What? I say it's her best, no.
46:41
You can say that, right? Feel.
46:45
Bad I heard that not not my favorite Fletcher song.
46:48
I love her so much. I love all of her other songs.
46:52
Don't say it. It's very underrated.
46:54
I. Love that song.
46:55
I was. In Atlanta at her last tour and
46:57
she was trying to get everybody to jump and I was the only one
47:00
in the crowd. I was like, hey.
47:02
You're probably towering over people because you're like 6
47:05
feet tall, yes. I'm 6 feet tall and anyway it's
47:10
just not my favorite song. I want to hear more.
47:12
I want to know what this country folklore esque vibe is.
47:16
And here's the thing, aren't pop celebrities artists?
47:20
Aren't they allowed to have a flop album?
47:23
Are they allowed? I think.
47:24
They're allowed is. This going to be her like Casey
47:26
Musgrave star crossed like where it's like the fans are like is
47:30
it going to be her Joanne where it's not the fan favorite?
47:37
Comparing Joanne to Kacey Musgraves star crossed is crazy.
47:44
Here's the. Thing I don't think Taylor Swift
47:46
has one of those. Some people would say love her,
47:48
but that's my favorite album so I was.
47:49
Just going to say I feel like people would say love her but
47:52
her version of a flop is not a flop.
47:55
Anyway, so maybe this is just Fletcher's Blop era.
47:59
I don't wanna say it, I don't wanna say it, but maybe it is.
48:02
Maybe it's just an era that we're just gonna move past.
48:04
I'm hoping that Never. Mind we forgot, we just erase.
48:08
The narrative, honestly. I think she's never gonna
48:10
recover. With some people.
48:11
I agree. I mean.
48:13
Some people, they didn't want to like, listen to her, entertain
48:17
her after Becky's so hot. Like a lot of people were like,
48:20
Becky was wronged, like it, this is awful.
48:23
Fletcher is so awful for doing this.
48:25
I don't respect her. This was like, you know,
48:28
tasteless, etcetera, etcetera. Some people didn't want to be
48:31
her friends. Other people critiqued her and
48:33
still kept going to the shows and supporting her.
48:35
And I think that this might be one of those make or break
48:37
points for some people. And then if this doesn't
48:40
resonate, will she go back to a more Fletcher, badass,
48:42
unapologetic persona to try to kind of garner that audience and
48:46
lean back into Yeah. That's interesting.
48:48
I feel like though, the people that were criticizing her for
48:51
the back, he's so hot. We're still lesbians though.
48:53
Yeah. And I feel like just cuz it's
48:55
like a different type of flop this feels.
48:59
Really more alienate not it's not alienating, but a lot of her
49:04
fans are just straight up not gonna be entertained by or enjoy
49:07
it. I was sorry.
49:09
Another thing I was doing some research, this song it's like it
49:12
is not doing well on Spotify. It has like barely any listens.
49:16
Like all of her other songs even from her most recent album have
49:19
millions of streams and boys has not Boy sorry hasn't even hit a
49:24
million streams. It only has no.
49:26
Way it hasn't hit a million streams, no.
49:29
And all her other songs have hit like, and obviously they've been
49:31
out longer, but like, it's I'm like girl.
49:34
Because that's actually. Crazy, yeah.
49:38
And I'm like, girl, the, the few people that we're tuned in,
49:42
like, I don't know if anyone's listening to boy on repeat, you
49:45
know what I mean? I they're listening.
49:46
To it once, I guess I would, I honestly would have thought it
49:49
would be a little bit higher because people would like listen
49:52
just to like hear what all the thoughts was about.
49:55
But I guess everyone's like, there's no need.
49:58
It's also. Just like for it to come at this
50:00
time, right after JoJo Siwa, literally at the peak of
50:06
Internet bisexuals, lesbians sparring at each other.
50:11
He's just like, she just threw a bomb and then like ran away.
50:15
I do think that the bisexuals and the lesbians need to just go
50:20
to the same bar, make out with each other, be friends with each
50:24
other. Most of the fighting is
50:26
definitely online. Yes, there's valid biphobia,
50:30
but. But let's all stop fighting and
50:32
start kissing. Let's all stop.
50:34
Fighting. Let's start kissing and also,
50:38
who are we focused on most during Pride?
50:41
Trans people and people that like look visibly queer and are
50:43
being targeted like on the street.
50:45
It's. Time to lay down our weapons.
50:46
Listen, even it's. Time to lay down our weapons
50:49
Lay. Down our weapon and let's all
50:52
just come together. We still have some time in June
50:55
we can work on, we can work through this.
50:56
So I think we need it through it.
50:59
We, we can and we need to fight the real enemy, which is, I
51:02
don't know who the real enemy is.
51:04
Trump. Trump, obviously.
51:07
Obviously the real enemy. Who's the real enemy, Fletch?
51:11
I'm just gonna feel like, OK, I feel like we solved every issue.
51:17
And I think if anyone's wondering if something's
51:20
biphobic and like what the right answer is on something, just
51:22
come to this video. Yeah, I think so, yeah.
51:26
OK, well thanks so much for joining the pod, Lexi.
51:30
We had to make this happen. If Fletcher does anything else,
51:32
we might have to bring you back on so we can discuss the album
51:35
drop. Yes.
51:36
I'm, I'm ready to come back for Fletcher.
51:38
I'm ready to talk about Gaylor. I'm ready, yes.
51:41
That we can. Talk about so have me back
51:43
whenever, OK? Well thanks everyone for
51:45
watching. Happy Pride.
51:47
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52:04
bar. Yes, yes, stop fighting.
52:07
Stop. Fighting.
52:08
OK, bye. See you guys next week.