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Am I Psychic or Am I Just Crazy? · Erotic Spirit Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: Guides are never gonna come to you and tell you how horrible you are or you know how you're screwing up in life.
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SPEAKER_01: They they don't do that, they are always on your side and they are always talking you up, and even if you feel you're screwing up or making mistakes, they are always there to back you up no matter what your choices are.
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SPEAKER_01: And if they were hard choices and you ended up where you did not expect to be, they are just loving support all the time, and they're like, that's all right, you made a left turn, no problem.
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SPEAKER_01: Where do you this is where we can go from here?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So, yes, yeah, they never ask you to harm anyone, they never ask you to harm yourself.
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SPEAKER_01: This podcast discusses sensitive and sexual topics that may be triggering.
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SPEAKER_01: Please understand we are not therapists, we are simply sharing from our own journey and experience.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Erotic Spirit, where soul and sexuality and everyday life meet.
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SPEAKER_01: I am Angela Shelby.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm Jenna Lee.
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SPEAKER_01: And besides our own conversations, we channel in messages from angels and spirit guides and ascended masters, ancestors, all sorts of different friends and spirit about topics like sexuality, spirituality, sensuality, trauma, love, intimacy, desire.
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SPEAKER_01: And it is our intention to create a safe space that embodies spirituality and sexuality in a way that meets you exactly where you are.
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SPEAKER_01: And if you're not familiar with channeling, channeling is allowing uh higher-dimensional beings to use our bodies and voices to bring through information with as little of our personal filter as possible.
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SPEAKER_01: So that is who we are and what we do.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And today we are talking about am I crazy or am I psychic?
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SPEAKER_01: And knowing what the difference is.
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SPEAKER_02: And I know we don't like to say the word crazy, but sometimes you're like, am I going a little fucking crazy?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, especially when it comes to spirituality.
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SPEAKER_01: So really personal topic for me because I have some mental illness and I also have, you know, strong spiritual gifts.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's been a journey knowing the difference between the two.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm also a nurse, so I deal with people with mental illness.
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SPEAKER_01: So, like the question is what is the difference between am I hearing voices because I'm psychotic, or am I hearing voices because it's my spirit guides talking to me?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, what is the difference between the two?
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SPEAKER_01: Is it my imagination or is it really spiritual guidance coming through?
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SPEAKER_02: I love this topic.
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SPEAKER_02: And I I know like my journey too, and I know you can share a bit of yours, but I know for me, I entered my spiritual awakening through PTSD.
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SPEAKER_02: So I was literally losing my stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: And I, you know, I'd walk into rooms, not know why I was there, and I was out of work for five months.
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SPEAKER_02: And when I started going to EMDR and settling my system, I was working with a mentor and a spiritual coach at that time that was helping me ground the energy.
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SPEAKER_02: Now I didn't know that because we were doing color meditation.
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SPEAKER_02: But the first time we did it, after a few weeks of doing EMDR therapy.
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SPEAKER_02: What is EMDR?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: EMDR therapy, by the way, is or just my version of it or my experience of it is you I had two buzzies that you would put under your legs.
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SPEAKER_02: And so your right and your left hemisphere get to sync up when you're reprocessing something traumatic.
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SPEAKER_02: And the the therapist does it in a very beautiful way at your pace, and so it really helps one that as we go through trauma, we usually compartmentalize and really like put things down.
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SPEAKER_02: So you get to reprocess it and move through it in a really safe environment.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's embodied therapy, yeah, essentially.
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SPEAKER_01: It's bringing your body into the equation so your body can let it go.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: That's pretty cool.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: So I was doing that and working with a spiritual coach, and when we did white meditation, my ear started ringing.
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SPEAKER_02: And I remember saying to him, Am I am I losing it?
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SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean, I was losing it.
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SPEAKER_02: I literally was, you know, I would do all these kinds of things that I would not do, and I was really going through it.
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SPEAKER_02: So when my ear started ringing, he was highly intuitive, in tune with his own guides, and he was like, No, you're good, you're good.
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SPEAKER_02: But he would have to reassure me.
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SPEAKER_02: And eventually, a couple months later, when I started going to psychic and mediumship development circles and my ear was ringing, I really started tuning in and hearing what the messages were or understanding it.
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SPEAKER_02: But when you're going through it, you're like, All right, like, is this tinnitus?
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SPEAKER_02: Is this what is this?
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SPEAKER_01: Is this tinnitus?
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SPEAKER_02: Is it spirit?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Do I just was my blood sugar low?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, my yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: My personal journey, so depression runs in my family and alcoholism.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and so having grown up with depression and like that was like my natural state for so long, but also growing up as an empath where I'm feeling other people's emotions and not knowing it, they feel like my own.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, that was a really mixed bag and it was really hard.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh so feeling crazy when spiritual gifts are going on, because when I my empathy is going big, I could just be feeling happy and fine one minute, and then the next minute I'm like, I could cut my wrists right now.
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SPEAKER_01: Like I could slip my wrists because my mood would change so fast.
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SPEAKER_01: And I didn't know what it was.
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SPEAKER_01: And it happened one day that I was so angry because I gone in to get my tires changed.
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SPEAKER_01: I was happy, it was great.
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SPEAKER_01: No one else is in the waiting room.
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SPEAKER_01: And all of a sudden I went from happy to I could die right now.
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SPEAKER_01: And I was just screaming at God in my head, going, What is going on?
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SPEAKER_01: I had enough, I can't do this anymore.
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SPEAKER_01: And this voice went through my head that said, This doesn't belong to you, it's not yours.
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SPEAKER_01: And I just stopped and I went, Oh my god.
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SPEAKER_01: And as soon as I realized it didn't belong to me, then I it was able, I was able to separate myself from it.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So having these crazy moments and then having spirit step in, I think for me, that is one of the most clear ways to understand the difference because I've had moments where I feel like I'm losing my shit.
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SPEAKER_01: And spirit comes in and balances me out.
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SPEAKER_01: So one of my tells when I know it's spirit is it is always calm and peaceful.
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SPEAKER_01: Even if the like it's really disturbing information, always calm, always peaceful, and it is always smooth.
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SPEAKER_01: It always gives me the choice of paying attention or not.
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SPEAKER_01: There's always choice.
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SPEAKER_01: I call it the still small voice, and I've heard other spiritual teachers call it that, or the nudge in the ribs.
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SPEAKER_01: I call it spirit nudging me in the ribs because it's always like a hey, pay attention.
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SPEAKER_01: And I always have the choice whether to pay attention or not.
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SPEAKER_01: It's never overwhelming.
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SPEAKER_01: It's never you must or you have to.
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SPEAKER_01: It's always, we would like you to know that that doesn't belong to you, darling.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, just it's okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh so that is one of the one of the main things for me.
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SPEAKER_01: How about you?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I well, I mean, very similar, like fear versus love.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: I feel when I was really going through it, fear.
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SPEAKER_02: It was like there, like my world is collapsing.
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SPEAKER_02: But um, even now, if I've ever felt like things are really falling out, I will still feel that peace, or I feel that love, or it's like, all right, like this is the path.
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SPEAKER_02: But it's more of a calmness, it's more of a stillness in my system when I get those messages.
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SPEAKER_02: So I I'm definitely there with you.
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SPEAKER_02: It's it's really that that big comparison out of fear, and there's never any guidance that's like to do harm to someone else, or or anything that really like, yeah, you know, there's nothing about murder or anything coming through.
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SPEAKER_02: There's like pure love, and just sometimes I think I know the answer, and it's like, hey, in a loving way, this is how we looked at this other option, it's really it.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that is one of the things.
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SPEAKER_01: So, like you were saying, the messages are always loving, yeah, always kind, always rational.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, I I work with people who have schizophrenia, which is, you know, people that they hear voices, yeah, you know, that it's a mental illness that it usually comes up when people are in their like late teens, early 20s.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's kind of a sneaky stinker of a disease because you're normal one minute and all of a sudden you hear these voices, or you start seeing things that are not there.
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SPEAKER_01: But when that happens to people with schizophrenia, they are scary things, and the voices are always negative voices, talking to them, tearing them down, shouting at them.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, they'll have scary feelings of someone standing over them.
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SPEAKER_01: So spirit does not come through that way.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's that's a good differentiation.
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SPEAKER_01: Your guides are never gonna come to you and tell you how horrible you are or you know how you're screwing up in life.
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SPEAKER_01: They they don't do that, they are always on your side and they are always talking you up.
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SPEAKER_01: And even if you feel you're screwing up or making mistakes, they are always there to back you up, no matter what your choices are.
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SPEAKER_01: And if they were hard choices and you ended up where you did not expect to be, they are just loving support all the time.
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SPEAKER_01: And they're like, that's all right, you made a left turn, no problem.
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SPEAKER_01: Where do you this is where we can go from here?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So, yes, yeah, they never ask you to harm anyone, they never ask you to harm yourself.
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SPEAKER_02: It's it's beautiful, and I love that you brought up uh you were just bringing up a couple things.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, I don't have experience with uh people, you know, it's schizophrenia or anything, but I do know my own experience and me just feeling like my mind was split.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I would see it's always interesting how clients will come in that mirror our experiences.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So I started to get clients that would would come in and I would hear, and I would never say because I'm not a doctor, but I would hear that there's some sort of spiritual psychosis going on.
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SPEAKER_02: And I love to talk about this because they come to me and they're like, I don't know what's going on.
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SPEAKER_02: They're hearing all these things, maybe even tuning in to gifts that they've never even been aware of.
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SPEAKER_02: Like they'll hear colors or something like that, and they think they're going crazy.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, I've seen people want to activate their third eye.
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SPEAKER_02: They're like, oh, let me let me activate my third eye.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna open up my third eye, I'm gonna hear and know and see all these things, but they have not done any of the lower chakra works.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, the chakras are the energy centers and they're all one, but the lower chakras represent safety and security, uh, represent our our sexual energy, sexuality, our creative energy, our power.
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SPEAKER_02: So when there are things that are unprocessed that are we've gone through that are unsafe, and now we open up our third eye and we're seeing, we're seeing through the filter of those pains of not being safe, not feeling secure.
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SPEAKER_02: And if there's real, real deep-rooted, repressed, unprocessed trauma, I've seen people where they're just they're seeing through that filter.
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SPEAKER_02: And so they're getting all these messages and downloads, and they think that it's spirit or their higher self.
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SPEAKER_02: And meanwhile, it's the voices of the trauma, it's the remembrance of that that's coming through.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's so important in this space to continue to do the work.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's okay, we're we are healing.
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SPEAKER_02: So we're getting downloads, and we're like, okay, this I'm I'm practicing.
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SPEAKER_02: But when you have things that come up that are activating you, work through that, making sure that there are processes to, you know, to really discern what's going on.
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SPEAKER_02: So do you have like tools or things that you have gone through in your time to kind of like really start to move through the to be able to discern either one?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So and something that's important to note along with this, that you're talking about it.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like being on that spiritual path where you know, deciding I I want to embrace my gifts more and I want to tune in more and I want to hear my soul more.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: As we have come to know, it is always a changing game, and spirit is always asking us to step outside our comfort zone, a little bit more outside that box all the time.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And to do that, like any trauma that we have is going to come up.
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SPEAKER_01: You cannot be on the spiritual path and not address your trauma.
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SPEAKER_01: It doesn't work.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It's kind of like being in an airship and you're like wanting to go higher, but you can't because you've got too much ballast, you've got too much weight.
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SPEAKER_01: So if you're if we're putting it out to spirit, I want to go higher, I want to fly higher, I want to see more, I want to do more.
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SPEAKER_01: Spirit's like, that is awesome.
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SPEAKER_01: You've got to get rid of all this stuff down here in the corner that you don't want to look at.
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SPEAKER_01: Like you can't, you can't do both.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh so spirituality asks us to get really honest with ourselves on all levels, and that includes the sexual level.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, you can't banish your sexuality or any aspect of ourselves.
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SPEAKER_01: If you have a raging temper, guess what?
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SPEAKER_01: You know, you gotta come to terms with it and find your way with it, harness it, use it.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, you can't ignore pieces of yourself to do that.
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SPEAKER_01: So, one of my biggest tools is learning to integrate and look at my shadows and look at them with compassion and through the eyes of my spirit guides.
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SPEAKER_01: I have learned so much from spirit guides and other people's spirit guides, doing readings for people.
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SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, looking at our stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: The best way that I look at my stuff and that I am most guided to look at my stuff is writing, is to journal.
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SPEAKER_01: And I call it, it's called um oh clear, I can't remember.
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SPEAKER_01: Free flowing, like free-flowing writing.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can't find the words right now.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what happens when we tune in.
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SPEAKER_01: Um you write without a filter, you don't worry about grammar, punctuation, spelling.
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SPEAKER_01: You just write, and whatever comes out, you just it's like mind vomit, just blh, onto the paper.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And it clears everything out.
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SPEAKER_01: And not only that, you will get channeled messages from spirit that way after you're done just clearing out what's up there.
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SPEAKER_01: So I will go through notebook.
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SPEAKER_01: I will go notebooks, I will like go to Walmart during school supply season and like just throw down on like 20 notebooks at a time and buy them in like I need unimportant notebooks that don't look like anything because it makes me feel like I can just pour out all my crap on it.
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SPEAKER_01: If it's like some pretty notebook, I can't do it.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm like, no, special things have to go in here.
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SPEAKER_01: Pretty yeah, no, I just need I I just need a a you know, a plain 25 cent notebook and just dump.
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SPEAKER_01: It's one of the best spiritual tools I have, and I use it pretty much every day.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: How about you?
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SPEAKER_01: What do you do?
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SPEAKER_02: I love to check in with my body and tune in with my body.
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SPEAKER_02: So I pretty much, I mean, I for me, the biggest thing was the sexual trauma that I've been through, the the sexual abuse, the physical, feeling uh unprocessed physical trauma in my body.
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SPEAKER_02: So after going through PTSD, fully recovering with the symptoms, I really gained tools to be m more mindful and be present.
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SPEAKER_02: So I it's just mindfulness techniques where using all your senses, what am I seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, smelling, you know, grab coffee or tea and get really present so that you could tell what's going on in your body.
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SPEAKER_02: So you could do them separate, you could just do that.
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SPEAKER_02: I I would do that every 10 minutes when I was first really working through PTSD.
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SPEAKER_02: I would, or not, do probably as much as I could remember.
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SPEAKER_02: And that just became a thing.
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SPEAKER_02: And then other than that, I feel what's in my body.
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SPEAKER_02: Is it tense?
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SPEAKER_02: Does it feel sticky?
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SPEAKER_02: Does it feel heavy?
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SPEAKER_02: Do I feel anxiety?
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SPEAKER_02: Do I feel all those things in the body and breathe through it?
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SPEAKER_02: So elongating that breath out, softening the body, because we can really just kind of like tense up.
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SPEAKER_02: And so just softening the body so that I remember how to relax.
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SPEAKER_02: And that's really, those are really like the biggest tools that I went through with everything.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I like that.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Feeling the feels, feeling the body.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: A lot of the yeah, there's so much spirituality, is like not feeling the body, or at least that's what's been touted.
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SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I also have learned to find safety in feeling my body.
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SPEAKER_01: And that took some doing.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Learning to trust the body and be in the body.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, for sure.
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SPEAKER_01: So that is something that I used to be in my head a lot, um, overthinking.
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SPEAKER_01: And I have found when my mind is racing, it is harder for me to hear spirit.
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SPEAKER_01: So when I'm having those moments where my mind is like, I'm going and going, and my mind is like circling over things over and over again, I know that it's my mind doing that and not my spirit.
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SPEAKER_01: Because when I'm in that state, I know it's hard to hear.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So slowing down um helps me come back to myself.
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SPEAKER_01: And one of the ways my guides will get my attention, or I know it's not just like my imagination coming through, I will get information in a way that I don't normally talk.
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SPEAKER_01: Things will come through in verbiage and in ways that I don't normally say something.
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SPEAKER_01: And it catches my attention.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, like that moment in the tire store.
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SPEAKER_01: I think, you know, it does not belong to you.
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SPEAKER_01: I was like, I've never thought of like these feelings not belonging to me.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, what do you mean it doesn't belong to me?
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SPEAKER_01: And then I understood.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: But having things like that happen, but it's still that quiet voice.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, other tells for me that it's spirit.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh let's ask them.
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SPEAKER_01: Let's see what they I want to see what they have to say about this.
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SPEAKER_01: We've been talking a lot.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Humor.
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SPEAKER_01: So they're wanting us to talk about humor.
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SPEAKER_01: That's something else that people I think don't understand.
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SPEAKER_01: We take spirituality so damn seriously.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And there is so much about it, like even when it's like hard circumstances with a client, like they've lost somebody.
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SPEAKER_01: Or, you know, they're going through sexual trauma.
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SPEAKER_01: That comes up a lot.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Guides bring in information in ways that make us laugh in some of our hardest moments.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: There is always Humor, um, whether it's coming through in visuals, um, we have a friend that her guides are freaking hilarious, and so is she.
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SPEAKER_01: We tend we have guides that reflect who we are, and her guides are hilarious, and I will never forget the time that they popped in and it looked like five guys dressed up in like Miami vice suits, but they're all turquoise blue with shades, and it was about the bees in our backyard, and they jumped in all of them at once with like little toy bees on their shoulder and went, bees.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'll never forget it.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just they they can be hilarious, and it's important to understand that as well.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, humor, lots of sometimes you just get information that you don't even, you're like, there's no physical possible way I could know this.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I go like Google it later because I'm like, that was fucking crazy.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, wait, that's a thing.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I didn't even know what this word meant, and I'm saying it, or something comes out really proper, and I don't I don't talk like that, and I'm like, hmm, what is this right here?
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SPEAKER_02: So it's really interesting the dynamics of how things could come in, and it could be really playful, and it could just be knowledge and wisdom that is, you know, really universal.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, it could be some of those frequencies and connections into laws of the universe that's wanting to channel in and come in.
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SPEAKER_02: And so it goes down to right, am I psychic or crazy?
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SPEAKER_02: Because I sometimes think I'm crazy when I hear otherworldly stuff, I'm like, I didn't know that was a thing.
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SPEAKER_02: And then look up quantum physics over here.
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SPEAKER_02: Like the thing.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, where you get information, and it's like, I have no idea what you're talking about.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it's a little crazy.
23:58
SPEAKER_01: New concepts, new ideas that, yeah, I'm I'm not familiar with.
24:04
SPEAKER_01: And I want to talk about those moments.
24:06
SPEAKER_01: Uh Carolyn Mace, she's this really awesome uh medical intuitive, and she's so she has tons of information out there, but she's also very no-nonsense, and she talks about something called spiritual madness.
24:23
SPEAKER_01: And it is when you're so comfortable with your spiritual voice and your guides and getting your own intuitive guidance that when it goes totally against rational thought and mainstream thinking, you just do it.
24:44
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like those moments where the monk, everybody's fleeing the soldiers, and the monk's like, nope, I'm walking up to the general right now, and they just do it with ease, grace, and peace.
24:57
SPEAKER_01: Um, that is spiritual madness, and those moments can sometimes feel like madness.
25:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I'm trying to think of one right now.
25:07
SPEAKER_01: I've had moments where I'm getting information and I am seeing things that I know are spirit.
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SPEAKER_01: I know it.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: I can feel the love.
25:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, it's there, but I will feel like I am going absolutely crazy because there's this part of me that's sitting there going, you can't make this shit up.
25:29
SPEAKER_01: You can't make this shit up.
25:31
SPEAKER_01: I cannot believe this is happening right now.
25:33
SPEAKER_01: And I will sit down and do my writing.
25:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I know that was a great experience, but I feel crazy right now.
25:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm feeling a little nuts.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: I can't believe that just happened to me.
25:43
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
25:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:44
SPEAKER_02: And sometimes you feel like you're tripping.
25:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: So you could be really sober, like very sober, and you I remember I was driving one time and the buildings were moving.
25:56
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, that doesn't seem like that's a normal reality for me.
26:01
SPEAKER_02: So it it can really feel like you're just in and out of a lucid dream, like, okay, I need to like touch that right now.
26:09
SPEAKER_02: And you're completely sober, taking nothing.
26:12
SPEAKER_02: You're just moving with the energy, and there's nothing wrong with it either.
26:17
SPEAKER_02: I mean, once you know, and and that's why we're talking about once you know these things can happen, then you're like, all right, this is I'm I'm feeling the energy.
26:25
SPEAKER_02: I'm in the energy.
26:26
SPEAKER_02: This is me just tripping on life, basically.
26:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, tripping on life.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: You can actually uh reach heightened states like you're tripping on mushrooms just through oxygen.
26:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just through breathing.
26:38
SPEAKER_01: Um I had a moment where I went most of my information comes through in just like knowing it, like getting downloads or in uh feeling I, you know, emotions, empathy, yeah, getting information that way.
26:55
SPEAKER_01: I had a moment where I saw, which is totally weird, but it was in the middle of the night, and there was this thump on the plastic dog stairs.
27:03
SPEAKER_01: I have a little dog, she comes up to the bed through the stairs.
27:06
SPEAKER_01: Um, there was a thump and it woke me up.
27:08
SPEAKER_01: And I looked up and there was this woman.
27:10
SPEAKER_01: Uh, she stood up next to my bed and she was dressed, it reminded me of like 18th century clothes with the high neck dress and you know, the tight sleeves.
27:20
SPEAKER_01: And she stood up, her hair was in a bun, and I'm like, there's a woman next to my bed.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: And I just laid there because I know I'm so protected, and I'm like, I know what this is, but I was totally freaked out.
27:30
SPEAKER_01: And she stood up after thumping the stairs, she opened my bedroom door, and she walked through into this bright light, and then the door shut itself again.
27:39
SPEAKER_01: And I just laid there and it was like, I feel totally crazy right now.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: I know this is spirit, I know I'm awake and my adrenaline was going, but it's it's those moments, but those moments always come with love, even if my adrenaline's going.
27:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and they're never threatening.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: So that's when I know it's spirit.
27:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, if you had one takeaway for people today, what would it be?
28:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it would be you're not crazy.
28:09
SPEAKER_02: You it you really just have to take a minute to breathe, to center yourself and to listen.
28:19
SPEAKER_02: Is this the voice of the past or the are these the voices of other generations of society?
28:26
SPEAKER_02: Is this my higher self, true love, right?
28:29
SPEAKER_02: So just take a moment and pause and breathe and be able to discern through that way, step by step.
28:36
SPEAKER_02: What about you?
28:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think it would be life is a team event, and none of us were made to do it by ourselves.
28:43
SPEAKER_01: So we have our invisible teams that are follow all of us around and help us, but uh we also have each other.
28:50
SPEAKER_01: So when I have those moments where I'm feeling crazy, you know, I call up Jenna.
28:55
SPEAKER_01: Dude, I need you to help me and tune in about this because this was nuts.
29:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, and I have a counselor to help me deal with my depression and my other stuff.
29:06
SPEAKER_01: Like I have it from both sides.
29:09
SPEAKER_01: I have a foot in both places, and I think it's important to acknowledge that and use those resources.
29:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
29:16
SPEAKER_02: Tools are everywhere.
29:18
SPEAKER_02: So I love that.
29:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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