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Can the Knicks come back to steal the series from the Pacers? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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Well, if you're a Knicks fan, this is not going to be an
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exciting night. And I just have this bad feeling
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that the Knicks are going to lay up a lousy goose egg tonight.
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I just, something tells me the Knicks aren't going to show up
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tonight at Madison Square Garden in front of a jam packed fan
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base that has been screaming for a world championship for, I
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don't know, 50 years. It's absolutely despicable how
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the Knicks have not shown up in this series.
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And I'm going to say this this over and over and over again.
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And I want to see more grit by the New York Knicks tonight.
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I want to see a start really, really strong by the New York
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Knicks tonight. I don't want to hear any excuses
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from the New York Knicks tonight.
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And Tom Thibodeau shave that goddamn head.
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I am so tired of looking at ugly mug that he has.
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But nevertheless, it's going to be a crazy 1, ladies and
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gentlemen. But listen, guys, I just want to
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say something. It is back and forth with this
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weather. We had rain, then the sun's
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peeking out. I don't get this weather.
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I don't get anything here in Long Island.
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But there's no volcanoes and there's no tsunamis, so I guess
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I'm lucky about that. There's no descriptive death
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anytime soon. But who knows?
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It could happen. It could be an earthquake.
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We can crack and we can be split, you know, in four or
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five. I, I don't know, but we have the
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five boroughs in Long Island has nothing to do with the boroughs
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And it, it doesn't make any sense either.
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But hey, we live in New York and New York is just one of those
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places you sometimes wish you want to be and most of the time
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you just want to get the hell out of here.
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But hey, Jabba, how are you? I mean, obviously the weather is
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probably around. I would say 70 something degrees
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because you're wearing a hat. Yeah, we got 60, about 67, but
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we got some rain so we got a little humid.
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But yeah, so it's been, it's been nice out today.
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Actually, it's the sun's been out.
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So it when the sun's out, it actually feels a little bit
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nicer than what it is. But yeah, it's supposed to be
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60s and then supposed to get up to warmer, I guess.
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But like I said, you never know here.
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We don't have to worry about volcanoes or anything.
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The only thing we got to worry about is tornadoes, so.
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Yeah, you just have to go to California or the West Coast or
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go to Hawaii if you want to experience a wonderful volcano
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eruption. But hey, I'm about to erupt
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because I've been watching this absolutely despicable team as
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the New York Knicks. I want to hear it.
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I know Keith is going to call off the show a little bit later
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and I'm sure he has his own opinions because most of the
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time me and Keith go back and forth and I never get a chance
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to speak. As a matter of fact, if I'm
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lucky enough, I actually finish at least one or two sentences.
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So when, when he actually calls the show and it will be a little
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bit later in the show, I'm positive about that expect Keith
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to be Keith. So I, it's, it's one of those
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crazy days and, and I want to see another thing.
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And I I watch a lot of sports, but I I tail away from sports
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over the last couple of months. Not that I don't watch the
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games, I watch a lot of games, but I don't watch it as much.
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I've been open to watching a lot of documentaries.
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So I've been sneak peeking on so many different docu docu's.
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I watch a lot of murder documentaries, but I also watch
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a lot of documentaries that have something to do with sports.
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But Thievery. And I don't know if anybody's
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checked out Brett Favre's Untold Story over there on Netflix.
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And if you're a Brett Favre fan, and I'm sure there's quite a few
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of them out there, and I'm probably tons of them, if you
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actually watch that documentary, it'd probably make you sick to
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your stomach and you probably will burn his jersey because
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that's the despicable person that he is.
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He's a absolutely disrespectful man when it comes to women, when
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it comes to money, a rich guy who obviously doesn't dig into
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his own pockets. He steals from the poor.
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It's a typical story for, you know, different athletes we've
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seen over the years or musicians or entertainers in many
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different businesses that have tons and tons of money, made
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millions and millions of dollars off of endorsements, but don't
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want to dig into their own pockets and help anybody out but
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their damn selves or their their family.
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So Brett Farve, if you don't get a chance to check that out,
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well, then you're an idiot. And if you're a football fan,
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you definitely want to go and check it out.
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And if after you're done with that, you want to watch the
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Aaron Rodgers documentary, which I never got a chance to finish
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because I could give a damn if you ever get a chance to see the
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three or four part documentary of Aaron Rodgers, good luck on
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that. Because by the time you're done
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with that, you're going to want to smoke with him or drink with
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him or do whatever the hell he does in his private life.
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The Pacers won Game 4 versus the Knicks 1:30 to 1:21 to take a
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three one series lead. Tyrese Halliburton became the
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first player in NBA history to have a triple double of over 30
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points, over 15 assists and 0 turnovers.
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He also was the first player to average over 18 points, 5
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rebounds, and 9 assists with just two turnovers in a team's
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first fourteen playoff games. Rick Carlisle said that
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Halliburton should have had had statistically category his own
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category name for himself. Comparing Halliburton legendary
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point guard to legendary point guard John Stockton and Chris
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Paul. Josh Hart said that the Pacers
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are very tough, no duh to defend and if one domino falls, it
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messes up the whole possession. Carl Anthony Towns also said
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everybody has to step in defending Halliburton, not just
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Jalen Bronson. The Knicks will look to keep
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their season alive tonight in game five at home.
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Well, I, I don't know what to say.
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Tyrese Halliburton has been choking himself all series long
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and pretty much giving it to the New York Knicks fans, giving it
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to me. I, I've really turned an A leaf
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over on Tyrese Halliburton and to me, I, I like his game.
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I think he's so talented for a guy his size on a point guard
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that can do so many things naturally so well.
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I just don't like watching this kid because he reminds me too
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much of all the past Pacers that have stuck it to the New York
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Knicks. And this is one of those guys
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that for the next, I would say 10 to 12 years, we're going to
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have to experience watching this guy go on a basketball court,
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either Indiana or in New York, and just absolutely embarrass a
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team that doesn't know how to stick him defensively.
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I blame this on Tom Thibodeau and I will go deep into this
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story because I believe the problem right now is coaching.
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Everybody's going to say, well, guess what, NBA, you don't
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really need a good coach. All you need to do is get
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yourself two to three really good players and play them and
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then you have a decent bench and you can win a championship.
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Well, that's not quite true. Now, if you have guys like
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LeBron James in the prime of his career or maybe Dwyane Wade in
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his prime of his career or Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan, yeah,
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you, you can win championships with those type of guys.
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But when you have guys like Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony
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Towns that don't play a lick of defense, well, you got 2
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dimensional players that don't know anything but
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one-dimensional type of basketball.
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So that is the problem right now with the New York Knicks and a
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guy like Tom Thibodeau who's bald as hell, who doesn't know
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how to shave or even keep his hair in somewhat of a PER, you
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know, something to look at. I wanted to say something else,
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but I don't want to embarrass him.
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But to me, I just think that Tom Thibodeau is way over his head.
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Rick Carlisle is a better coach, and I think Rick Carlisle has a
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better game plan. Every single half you watch the
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Knicks in the first half, especially in the first quarter,
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they're the start of the game, at least the first 7 minutes of
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the game, they're getting outplayed.
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They're down by 7-8, sometimes 10 points.
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And then you get close to the third quarter at the end of the,
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I'm sorry, at the end of the second quarter with about two
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minutes, 3 minutes left, the Knicks always make a run.
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They cut it down to six or seven and they go into the half
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thinking, hey, the Knicks got a chance.
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If they pick up the pace in the third quarter, they can take the
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lead and make the Pacers work for every single point.
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That's what you would think when you have guys like OG and Anobi
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and the Carol Bridges. I don't know what the Knicks are
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doing in at half. Maybe they're drinking some
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Coca-Cola, drinking some beers or sniffing some lines.
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Because by the time they come back after the half, it looks
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like they were partying in the locker room or they thought,
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hey, this is going to be an easy quarter.
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We don't have to play. All we got to do is minimize the
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mistakes that we made in the first half and we're going to
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kick the crap out of the Pacers. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I
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don't know what, and I'll say this, I don't know what Tom
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Thibodeau is doing at the half. Maybe he's drinking with the
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players. Maybe he's just in another room
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trying to get a blowjob. Whatever he's trying to do, he's
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not doing the right thing with this team.
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And then they come back and they're a show of what they were
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in at the end of the second quarter.
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And they're you wonder if they're going to come out as a
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deer in the headlights, AKA Robert Sala, Bambi Sala.
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The problem right now really lies upon these halves.
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The Knicks have had problems coming back after the half and
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figuring out whoever they're playing, what their strengths
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are and how to beat their weaknesses.
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And what I believe the strength is right now with the Pacers is
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the fact that they can hit threes all over the basketball
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court. Every single one of these guys
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are hitting freeze against the Knicks, and the Knicks are not
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passing the ball. They're not moving the ball.
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It's become isolation basketball most of the time with Jaylen
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Bronson, when they score points, Karl Anthony Towns and with his
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38 to 30 to 80 foot jumpers, and this team eventually can hit
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three to four shots and then this team's hit.
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The Indiana Pacers are going going on runs where they're
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hitting four to five shots in a row.
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It it to me, the Knicks have to figure out what they need to do
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to be consistent. And what I think they need to do
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is get to the hole and draw fouls.
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Make the Pacers fight for every single point, every single shot,
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every single layup. You cannot give them open lanes,
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open shots and give them an opportunity to have confidence.
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And when you're in New York and when the fans are roaring and
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screaming and crying, you want the fans to be excited.
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You want the fans to get in the Pacers heads.
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But over the last couple of times we've seen not only the
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Pacers teams like Detroit or even sometimes Boston, they come
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to the Garden and the Knicks, just, I, I don't know where the
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Knicks are. They're in La La Land, they're
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in the Wizard of Oz, they're hanging out with Toto there.
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There's just, there's no yellow brick road for them.
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And I just, I, I don't get it anymore.
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And Jalen Bronson, Bronson, you got to wake up, man.
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You got to pass the ball, share the ball.
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You got so many players. OG Nanobi needs to get more
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consistent. You need to get some kind of
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tempo, get him involved more in the game.
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Mikhail Bridges has completely disappeared in this series where
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he was so very important to get to Boston.
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He's disappeared in this series and where is this rotation?
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I don't want to see campaign anymore.
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I want to see these guys rotated, right?
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Josh Hart, stop making the dumb, stupid mistakes that you make
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during the GameStop, throwing the ball to the sidelines or
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trying to do some kind of fancy pass to Jalen Bronson.
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It doesn't work. It hasn't worked.
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Play defense and play old school basketball.
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If you do that against the Indiana Pacers, then you're
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going to beat them. Rick Carlisle knows, and I don't
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care what anybody says, they have a tremendous team.
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They have from 1 to 15 or 1 to 12 how many players they play.
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They've played in this series. They're really good from 1:00 to
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12:00. The problem with the Pacers is
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if you can take Tyrese Halliburton out of the game and
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make him make one or even 2 passes and make them force the
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ball in places they're uncomfortable playing, the
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Knicks are going to get a chance to go on these runs.
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The Knicks are going to get a chance to have a 10 or 12 point
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lead in a game that we haven't seen so far in this series.
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And I, I just I, I'm, I quote myself really all the time
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watching this team because This is why I don't watch the regular
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season for the NBA. The one of the main reasons why
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I don't watch the regular season is during the regular season,
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you don't see this type of game plan.
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And the Pacers played completely different against the Knicks in
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the regular season. And then Rick Carlisle, who's
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such a smart coach. He understands the game of
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basketball. He understands well if the
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Knicks are doing this early in the game, they that what Rick
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Carlisle does in the second-half is he takes that part of the
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game out and makes the Knicks try to transition and play
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another way and they can't. And that is the difference in
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this series. It has nothing to do with
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talent. It has nothing to do with the
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Knicks not be able to compete against a more athletic team.
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To me, the Knicks are the most more talented team.
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They have the better five. They have the better rebounders,
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they have the better big men. The problem right now is
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coaching and making the right calls and the right play calling
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in in the persistent type of fashion that the Pacers have
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done throughout this series and the Knicks haven't.
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Yeah, you're talking about fouls, which I think that it's
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something that the Pacers want to play with a faster paced
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offense where they were fourth in the regular season in terms
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of the possession metrics per per second in pace.
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They were the 7th overall offense and those kinds of fouls
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slow them down if they're Knicks are drawing fouls.
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Now, the Knicks are doing better, better I should say, not
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great, but better at hitting free throws, especially in that
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first half of Game 4. But again, they still haven't
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done it enough on a consistent basis.
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They're still taking some reckless shots.
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You mention OG and Anobi. I think his offensive game
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planning and his types of shots that he's taking have not been
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very good. Karl Anthony Towns has been too
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streaky for a guy that's a second option on a team like
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that and had a lot of great traits for a big man shooting
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the ball and scoring the ball the way he does.
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And then there's the then there's the minutes as well.
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We talked about finally they expanded the lineup where Delon
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Wright and and Landry Shamon were playing finally.
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But they were still giving Josh Hart drastic minutes for a bench
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player. And I think it hurt him.
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Really, it hurt him on the defensive side of the ball
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against those wings late in the game.
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TJ McConnell was hitting some shot in the 3rd and it was great
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off the bench and I still think he's getting worn down as a
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result. I think what they have to
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consider doing is some rotations of like two or three guys off at
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a time where you saw the Pacers do that a lot.
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If Turner's out of the game, Siak comes in and vice versa
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when they're have a good lead. And I think that's something the
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Knicks have to try as well because the Knicks, they don't
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want to have to play with the pace if they don't have to.
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But if you have to play and attract me, your guys are going
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to get worn down and the Pacers are going to keep doing that to
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you. And they're not changing their
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style as long as they keep scoring the way they're doing.
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They scored 130 points with some of the starters in single
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digits. That says a lot when it comes to
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like, obviously Halliburton at the historic game.
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But it says a lot with the scoring prowess off the bench
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that they do have. And the Knicks have some of
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that, but they don't have enough of it compared to what the
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Pacers are doing. So the Knicks have to get it
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done a lot with the starters and a lot with getting them a
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Falcons I. Also believe that the Pacers are
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playing at a pace that the Knicks can't keep up with, and
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this. Is the fastest.
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This is pace Tom Thibodeau. Team and and Hal Burton is a guy
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that has really picking up the pace in the second-half of the
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game. If you watch him in the first
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half, he's much faster in the second-half and he likes to if
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he's not hot or he's not playing well offensively, he moves the
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ball, something that Jalen Brunson has not done in the
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series. He's using the other players.
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If he knows Naismith is playing better, he's hitting his shots,
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he's handing the ball off to him.
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If guys like that are giving them secondary scoring and Hal
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Burton doesn't have to worry about his shot, all he has to do
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is make sure that he's rebounding, defending the
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position that he needs to fend and he can get all the other
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guys involved. Well, then the Knicks are going
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to have problems keeping in these kind of games because OG
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Anobe has not been consistent. Mikhail Bridges has not been
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consistent. Even Jalen Brunson in certain
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parts of the game has not been consistent.
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And by the way, why are these guys like Karl Anthony Towns in
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the first quarter getting into foul trouble?
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Why is Josh Hart when he comes in early in the first quarter,
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getting into foul trouble? These guys need to stay out of
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foul trouble if they expect to be important pieces to this team
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moving forward into the second-half, especially in the
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fourth quarter where they're going to need these guys,
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especially when they need them on the boards.
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Josh Hart is one of the better board guys for the New York
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Knicks. Mitchell Robertson is so very
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important to the boards. Karl Anthony Towns, who hasn't
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been very good in this series as far as maybe one or two games,
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hasn't been good on the boards. They need more of these kind of
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rotational players to help them get over the top.
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Win game #5 and then worry about Game 6 on Saturday.
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Yeah, and also you look at the Wings matchup of the the Knicks
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have and they should not be getting out matches badly as
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they have. And you talk about Bridges and
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an Anobis just being streaky offensively.
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Hart's been streaky offensively too.
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I think he only had single digits in the last game too,
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despite playing well in other areas.
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And that's the thing that the pace that that's the thing they
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out match with the Celtics when the Celtics have all this great
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wing depth, both with the starters before Tatum got hurt
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and off the bench. The Pacers are not supposed to
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have that on paper. And yet they're finding ways to
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mismatch the Knicks when it comes to their pace of the the
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play and the ball movement. How does this not bother you
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when when you watch the Knicks completely dominate the Celtics
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in the second-half down by 20 points?
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They did it one time against the Indiana Pacers in this series,
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and the Pacers are nowhere close to the talent the Celtics are.
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And Tatum practically played the whole series except what the
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final game I've. Heard in Game 4.
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So he played practically that whole series.
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The Knicks beat him what, in five games, six games, six
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games. So he played the majority of the
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games. And still they outplayed the
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champion Boston Celtics. And then you're playing the
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Pacers, who are definitely less of a team than the Boston
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Celtics, and they can't find a way to get an early lead.
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They can't find a way to keep up with the team that's young,
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fast, athletic, talented, but nowhere close to the talent the
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New York Knicks have in their starting 5.
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Yeah, I I wanted to mention before before job on fish, you
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go. I I heard your conversation with
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Keith in the in the car. He didn't let me speak.
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Yeah, he was. He didn't let me speak.
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He was. Starting to make the impression
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the Pacers have the better like. He's out of its damn mind.
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The Knicks have 5, no worse than five of the best eight players
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in the series. You can argue 7 nevertheless.
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They have 4 of probably the top 15 defensive players in all of
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the league, but they're not playing defense.
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That's the other thing I was getting at too.
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They have a good defense and a great defense on paper in
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certain areas compared to the Pacers.
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That's the problem is they're letting their key players
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getting. Could you imagine?
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And guys, could you imagine if the Knicks played Mitchell
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Robertson, Josh Hart, Mikhail Bridges and OG and Anobi and add
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Jalen Bronson and they play at the top of their game
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defensively, how much they can shut down the Pacers?
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This defense could absolutely shut down any offense in the
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league and they have a problem. What you saw in the second-half,
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like on on that clip that you showed, like how they attacked
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the ball, there was a swarm. There's like a bunch like where
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they attack the basketball. Granted, they weren't as in much
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foul trouble, but as we talked about with what Tibbs is doing,
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OK, so you you put Mitch Rabb as a starter and now he's only
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going to play 18 minutes, but then Josh Hart's going to play
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35. Like where is there any balance
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in what he's doing? And I don't I don't get the foul
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trouble. I don't understand.
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And I touched on this earlier, it's like, and they're dumb
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fouls too. It's being lazy, like getting
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pissed off at key. Players too.
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I think that's the big difference.
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The Pacers key players outside of Halliburton, I think one game
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did not get into drastic foul trouble.
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And they haven't because they've played help defense.
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They know what to do. They don't make stupid fouls.
21:53
Why we're sitting in this conversation right now, but I
21:55
loved when you guys were bringing this up and talking
21:57
about four of the top 15 defensive players.
22:00
But look at the type of defense they're playing now because
22:02
they're forced to because of foul trouble.
22:04
But look at that when they're swarming the ball and getting
22:06
hands up in Tatum and Brown's face and they didn't have a
22:09
chance. And that's why they're able to
22:10
do that twice in that series because their defensive, I
22:14
guess, plan or however you want to call it, was completely
22:17
different than what it is because they can't really be as
22:20
aggressive because they've been in foul trouble early where they
22:23
where they get behind and don't have the opportunity where that
22:26
better Celtics team could pull away, but they still had a
22:29
chance to play aggressive defense.
22:31
Where here, you know, you're kind of like if a guy beat you,
22:34
you kind of got to let him go because are you going to get
22:36
your third or fourth foul before the second-half?
22:39
So I just I and it's just confusing on how he's playing
22:42
minutes and whatever. Like he brought Delon Wright but
22:45
he only played 9 minutes. So it's just.
22:46
And he played well. You brought, you brought.
22:49
So why? Do you only play 9 minutes then?
22:51
You brought the Celtics up, but I to me there's a huge
22:55
difference from Joe Missoula to Rick Carlisle.
22:58
Missoula's a good coach. He comes from obviously Reds
23:01
type of coaching. He's been over there training
23:04
before he became an assistant coach with the Celtics.
23:07
He was he was over there going to the camps of Red Airbach.
23:11
So he he knows a little bit about how to coach and the way
23:14
the Celtics pride of coaching has been with the organization
23:18
for a very, very long time. Doc Rivers was not an ex Celtic,
23:22
but he played a different style of defense with with Kevin
23:25
Garnett and Paul Pierce and Rondo and Ray Allen.
23:29
All four are great defenders. You you look at right now, Rick
23:33
Carlisle, Rick Carlisle is a defensive minded coach who
23:37
played over there with Dallas, with Dirk Nowitzki, was there
23:39
with Dirk Nowitzki racing kid and those type of players and
23:43
transition his style of defense to an offensive style with Dirk
23:47
Nowitzki and kind of added his little piece of defense to them.
23:51
When he came back to Indiana, remember he was there with
23:54
Indiana for a couple of years before he took that Dallas
23:57
Mavericks job. He came back to Indiana, He got
24:00
a very young athletic team. When they made that trade for
24:03
Tyrese Halliburton, it changed everything for the Indiana
24:06
Pacers because you have a long, lengthy point guard that can to
24:11
defend multiple positions. He's not a great defender, but
24:14
he's not a bad one because he's long and he can rebound the
24:17
ball. You're getting a guy that's a
24:19
point guard that is as big as really a three and you have him
24:24
playing against smaller point guards and he's just as athletic
24:27
as the smaller point guards. To me, that's a complete
24:30
mismatch and you're watching it in this series.
24:32
He is creating more mismatches because of Tom Thibodeau's way
24:37
of defense, where he is playing a zone defense and every single
24:41
time one guy gets picked at the top of the key, another smaller
24:45
guy is defending a more athletic Tyrese Halberton or a Naismith
24:49
who's having opening success at the three-point line.
24:53
Well, I wouldn't call it his own defense.
24:55
It's a switching man defense. It's which is kind of like we
24:59
call it in football, like pattern zones that that's.
25:02
It's his own defense. It's like it's his own.
25:04
Defense it's, it's, it's sort of a hybrid, right?
25:07
Because your, your job is to switch off whenever there's an
25:11
obstacle in your way, which is more man, but it means that
25:14
whoever's switching on to you is a different person and but
25:17
you're not covering 1 area. So I would say it's more a man
25:21
defense than his own defense. But the idea of anyone is
25:24
guarding anyone is certainly the thing that a lot of teams have
25:28
switched to starting with, you know, back in the day, Celtics,
25:32
when Thibodeau was with Doc, right?
25:34
This is not a new idea of Thibodeau's to play like this.
25:38
And it was kind of revolutionary 1517 years ago.
25:43
But as we know, things adapt, right?
25:46
And I think the problem is I was just thinking about this and I
25:50
was thinking about those old Knicks teams that weren't as
25:52
talented, because you're saying the Knicks are more talented
25:54
than the Pacers. And I agree, but but why were
25:57
the old Knicks teams competitive with mellow?
25:59
And it wasn't because of mellow, because of, I think it was
26:04
because of Mike D'antoni's offense.
26:06
And the offense was get the ball up as fast as you can.
26:09
Well, Tyrese Halliburton, my God, D'Antoni, eat your heart
26:13
out. That guy gets into the offense
26:16
faster than anyone I've ever seen.
26:18
Maybe it's since Steve Nash. This is absolutely insane what
26:22
he did in that game to have a 30 point triple double with 0
26:26
turnovers. It's one of the greatest
26:28
statistical outputs in playoff history.
26:30
It really is. You have to consider it that.
26:32
It's the only one ever to happen.
26:35
It's unbelievable. And he just kept finding guys
26:38
because think about what's going on.
26:39
The Knicks are playing different lineups so that not everyone
26:42
knows exactly who's with each other on defense because of
26:45
that. And they're into their offense
26:46
so fast. If you're not completely set and
26:49
running back athletically, like Karl Anthony, Towns does not
26:53
really like to do that. Brunson sometimes, you know,
26:55
gets a little distracted thinking about other stuff.
26:57
I guess. I don't know what his excuses
26:59
are at times defensively, kind of like just seems like he has
27:03
like a mental lapse every once in a while.
27:05
And Hart has been getting back cut on like a son of like, like,
27:08
I've never seen it. And I think it's because they're
27:10
just moving too fast for this defense to set up the way they
27:13
like to. And they're just getting
27:15
schooled by it. And Carlisle knows it.
27:17
And if you can get Halliburton to play like that, they're not
27:21
winning tonight. But that's the that's the point
27:23
to fish earlier that I think Speedy and Arrow both brought
27:26
up. When you're playing him that
27:27
many minutes now, it affects because he's making stupid
27:30
passes. I think he's led the last three
27:32
of four games in turnovers. And so if you're, if you're
27:36
doing that now you're getting his legs tired and you're trying
27:38
to do this for AI think it just it hurts in so many different
27:41
ways. And I, I think you guys are all
27:42
right when it. Does that and I I wouldn't call
27:45
it a man style because if it was man on man and and if you're
27:48
playing man defense you. But then you're fighting through
27:51
screens. Yeah, but it's I'm not telling
27:53
you it's they would consider basketball coaches, call it man
27:55
defense. I call it zone because they're
27:57
zoning, they're they're defending certain positions.
27:59
You have two guys up on the top of the key usually.
28:01
Means you have an area you know. Well, they do.
28:04
I mean, soon as they get picked off that area, they're sitting
28:07
in that area because they're going wherever the other guy is
28:09
going when they're shifting from the pick, so.
28:11
It's but they're on the ball. They're not in a zone like a 2.
28:15
Three, like if someone sets a screen, like the guy who's on
28:18
the Screener is now going to be up at the perimeter, it doesn't
28:21
mean matter if the guy comes from the perimeter or comes down
28:23
in the block. It's just a man scheme.
28:25
So I, I disagree with you on that.
28:26
It's not a real big difference though.
28:28
It's just, it's what you're saying is you want guys to fight
28:31
over screens like Nesmith does against Brunson, because that's
28:36
how a man plays man defense. When I coached like little kids,
28:40
I said you're not switching because all their AAU coaches
28:43
want them to switch because they don't really want to focus on
28:46
defense about offense at that age.
28:48
And you're like, that's fine. But Fish, think about this.
28:50
How many times has Carly Towns got a hip check because they've
28:54
tried to fight through the screen and fight over the screen
28:56
and then you get some cheap fouls?
28:58
So like, at the same time, you have to like, what are we doing?
29:03
It's like we're caught in between two different
29:04
philosophies at times. And I think Tibbs gets very
29:09
frustrated with Towns because he doesn't want him fighting over
29:13
the screen. He wants him to just accept the
29:16
smaller player to guard and just like, have that disadvantage for
29:20
a second. But Towns is a problem because
29:23
he just is a bad defensive player.
29:26
And when you have one guy and you have a guy like Halliburton
29:28
operating at the pace that he's operating that with like a
29:32
flawless, you know, turnover free game, it's very, there's
29:36
like no margin for. Error, but they're giving I.
29:38
Have 3 words written down, Errol, with this, slow it down.
29:43
They can't. The Knicks, the Knicks have to
29:46
turn this into a deliberate game.
29:48
They need to get into their offense.
29:50
That's not going to play like Carmelo Anthony.
29:52
No, no, play like Carmelo Anthony used to where you're
29:54
just running the shot clock down.
29:56
You're going to get into ISO sometimes, but you'll also want
29:59
to play late in the shot clock. That's fine because now you get
30:04
a rebound that isn't coming. What going to lead into a fast
30:07
break and they can't allow this team to be on the fast break
30:11
that they're absolutely killing them when they can't set up on
30:14
defense. They're getting murdered on the
30:16
fast break and I really want to see them slow.
30:18
I disagree. I don't think they're going to
30:20
be able to slow it down. What they're going to need to
30:22
do, and I think OG and a nobody's going to have to do it.
30:24
Mckelbridge is going to have to do it is fight through screens
30:27
and stop with this this garbage. Well, we'll switch off.
30:30
We'll do this, we'll do that off the pick.
30:32
They have to fight through screens.
30:34
You if you're taking Tyrese Halliburton, if OG is is
30:37
obviously obviously going to be committed to Tyrese Halliburton
30:41
throughout the game, then he defends Tyrese Halbern.
30:44
If if Mikkel Bridges is is going to defend against I don't know
30:48
what Naismith or any one of these guys.
30:51
They're going to have to fight through the the the picks and
30:55
get to their guy. To me, that's a going to be a
30:57
big problem throughout the rest of the series.
31:00
If they can get out of this this game, they're going to have to
31:03
be able to be able to pace themselves in Indiana.
31:06
The Indiana Pacers are very hard to beat at home.
31:09
The Knicks only have one win in there in the Pacers existence.
31:12
Just think about it for the all the times the Knicks have played
31:15
the Pacers in playoff history, the Knicks have one win against
31:19
them. One.
31:21
And you know, when that was, it was when this, this series
31:25
happened when the Knicks beat them in the first game of of the
31:29
series. So you have to, I mean, the
31:31
first game of the Indian in, in, in the game three-game 3.
31:35
But it's it's frustrating to me. And I, I'm, I'm so twisted
31:39
because you think they the point of it is trying to slow the base
31:42
down. They're not going to slow a fast
31:44
young team. What they need to do is stop
31:46
playing their game. That's what they need to stop
31:49
doing. Stop chucking up threes, stop
31:52
making mistakes, be mistake free and when you get to the free
31:56
throw line, hit your free throws in the important parts of the
31:59
game. If they're going to play Haka
32:00
Mitch in the fourth quarter, you got to make sure that you're
32:03
going to have a 5 or 6 point lead if Mitchell Robertson is
32:07
going to be out there and if he's not, you're going to have
32:09
to get more from Karl Anthony Towns.
32:11
So you got to set Karl Anthony Towns or tell Karl Anthony Towns
32:15
to set his feet under that hoop and make sure that if there's a
32:18
rebound, you will do anything to grab that rebound.
32:22
So I it's been a big problem. I don't think there's any hustle
32:25
with some of these guys. And you can see it.
32:27
Jalen Bronson, when he gets obviously frustrated, you see
32:30
the problems that he has. He's pulling on jerseys, he's
32:33
fouling bad, he's making bad fouls.
32:36
You want to see more more. How can I say this just?
32:40
Disciplined. No, I wouldn't even say
32:42
discipline. I just think it's.
32:43
Grit, you're saying, right? I wouldn't even say.
32:46
I've been saying grit, but I don't even think it's grit.
32:49
I just think, you know, play at your style, like it, play your
32:52
momentum of the game. I mean, if you're going to play
32:55
ice. You're saying like they're
32:57
baiting them into playing. Their game, their game.
33:01
So I agree when I say slow it down.
33:02
Like they can't play a game where the score is in 1:30 to
33:05
1:20. They can't play in the one 20s
33:07
and win against this team the way that they want to.
33:10
They've got to play in the one hundreds and one 10s.
33:12
If they're playing in those numbers, I like the Knicks
33:15
chances. That said, with everything, I'd
33:17
be shocked if they don't win this game kind of going away.
33:19
Stop giving them. Stop jinxing them.
33:21
I don't want to hear that. Oh, I'm shocked.
33:23
I'd be shocked. I don't believe in the jinx.
33:25
But yeah, yeah, I I that's what happens with that problem.
33:29
The problem with Knick fans, and I'll say this again, Nick, fans
33:32
think, Oh well, this is our game to win.
33:34
And then if the Knicks win, it's the next game.
33:37
This is our game to win. I don't want to hear that.
33:39
Go out and play your game. Go out and play.
33:41
The Knicks win and then all the pressures on Halliburton.
33:44
Go play your game. Go play your game.
33:48
Don't play Indiana's game and don't make and make Rick
33:52
Carlisle call timeouts. Make him go call a timeout in in
33:56
the early second quarter where he's yelling at his players
33:59
because they're not switching off or they're not pacing
34:02
themselves and they're letting the Knicks get open jump shots
34:05
and and open 3 pointers. The problem with the Knicks in
34:08
this series is they're not using every single player on the
34:11
court. They're playing ISO basketball.
34:14
You have Karl Anthony talents coming down and sometimes you
34:16
get one or two passes. Whoever's bringing the ball up
34:19
and then you giving it to Brunson, you give it to
34:21
everybody knows what the ball is going to.
34:23
The way you beat the Pacers is you put the ball in places the
34:27
Pacers are not expecting it to go.
34:30
That's the way. That's the way to beat the
34:32
Pacers. They're expecting Jaylen Bronson
34:35
to score 35 points, will get OG and Mikkel Bridges involved in
34:38
the game and maybe Josh Hart off the bench to give you 15, seven
34:42
and eight and you're going to win the game.
34:44
You need, to me, you need to redefine what you've been in
34:48
this series and make sure you're playing with the lead throughout
34:51
this game if you expect to win it.
34:54
The Thunder dominated the Timberwolves in game number 5124
34:58
to 94 to advance to their first NBA Finals since 2012.
35:04
The Thunder held the Timberwolves to just 9 points in
35:07
the first quarter and 32 points in the first half.
35:11
Anthony Edwards again had just 19 points, shot 7 for 18 and had
35:17
a -. 29 rating. Shy had another big game with 34
35:22
points and eight assists. Shy had over 30 points and eight
35:25
assists. In all four of the Thunders wins
35:28
in this series, the Thunder, who won 68 games during the regular
35:33
season, become the winniest team to advance to an NBA Finals
35:37
since the 2015 2016 Warriors. Among those six teams who have
35:44
advanced with the that high of a win total, every team besides
35:49
the Warriors team has won an NBA title.
35:52
I don't know why you put that there, because who cares?
35:54
The fact is I don't. I don't look at what players and
35:57
teams have done in the past. That doesn't matter to me.
36:00
I don't care of the, you know, what kind of player Anthony
36:04
Edwards was in this series and how much he cried after the
36:07
games when he didn't show up. Here's the facts.
36:10
Shia Alexander outplayed Anthony Edwards and that's why the OK C
36:16
Thunder is moving on to the finals.
36:18
That's the facts. Anthony Edwards that speaks so
36:21
highly of himself or doesn't want to take responsibility or
36:25
doesn't want to be the face of United States basketball or
36:29
thinks that he is the truth when he's not, or has said things
36:33
where he has put his team and his organization in positions
36:39
where you just shake your head. Anthony Edwards needs to take a
36:44
couple of weeks off from the NBA.
36:46
You get away from the video games, go on vacation and wake
36:50
the hell up. Wake the hell up.
36:52
Because if you're going to continuously keep doing this
36:56
over and over and over again, when you go to the playoffs and
36:59
want to point fingers and you don't want to take
37:01
responsibility or just can't handle the pressure, well, then
37:06
you either are going to be another Kevin Durant or you're
37:09
going to be another Karl Malone or even Charles Barkley.
37:13
Who can't win on his own? It has to go somewhere else.
37:16
By the way, I mentioned quite a few players that never won.
37:19
Charles Barkley went to Phoenix, played with Johnson, never won,
37:23
brought him to the Finals, won an MVP.
37:25
Who did he have to face? He had to face Michael Jordan.
37:27
Good luck on that. And and we could go on and on
37:30
and on with players that were so very good.
37:33
And then they go on to another team in another organization,
37:36
either come, you know, fall short or they win a championship
37:41
and they win a championship where he is not the leader, he
37:45
is not the best player or he's not considered the best player
37:48
even though he is. I, I just think that Anthony
37:51
Edwards has been a really big problem for the Timberwolves
37:54
growth. If you look at the players that
37:56
they have there. I got to give Julius Randle a
37:58
lot of credit. I, I can't really take shots at
38:01
him this year. He's going to make himself a lot
38:03
of money in the offseason. He has a free agent.
38:05
I could see him going to the Lakers.
38:07
Maybe now the Lakers don't have the money.
38:09
But if LeBron James decides, hey, I'm making, I'm going to
38:13
make $53 million this year. Maybe I'll take a pay cut or
38:16
I'll, you know, we'll figure out something to get Julius Randall
38:19
here. Remember, LeBron James is the
38:21
reason why actually Kobe Bryant was the reason why Julius
38:26
Randall transition his game. Anybody that knows Kobe Bryant,
38:30
when Julius Randall was drafted by the Lakers, Kobe Bryant was
38:34
there. And Kobe Bryant said that Julius
38:37
Randall's toughness is going to help him grow as an NBA
38:40
superstar. It didn't work with the Lakers
38:43
and it didn't work with the Pelicans.
38:46
But when he went to the New York Knicks the first year, he
38:49
figured it out and then he got that extension and then it
38:52
didn't work. He couldn't win the big game in
38:54
the playoffs. He was the bricklayer.
38:56
No Nick fan really like Julius Randle because he always thought
39:00
that he was bigger than the team.
39:01
Well, he went to another team after that where he was traded
39:06
to a team that has a player just like him.
39:09
And I think now you see Julius Randle became more of a team
39:13
player and understood his game and what how his game fit with
39:18
the Timberwolves and made it work in the playoffs.
39:21
It didn't work all those years with the Knicks.
39:24
And that's why you got to give Julius Randall a lot of credit
39:26
because of the hard work and the dedication he put, you know, in
39:30
the playoffs and throughout the playoffs.
39:33
And Shia Alexander, we all know what he is.
39:35
He's 26 years old. The guy is is the MVP is his.
39:39
He won his first MVP. He's got a bright smile.
39:43
He just had his first kid recently, he's married and he's
39:48
finally getting his recognition now.
39:51
He has always been a great player in the NBA.
39:53
He was a leader of Team Canada. But what he was missing was
39:57
getting that opportunity to prove himself on center stage in
40:03
front of millions and millions of people.
40:06
And now he's got his chance. He's going to be playing in the
40:09
NBA Finals. With this young talented OKC
40:13
Thunder team that has a ton of first round talent coming to
40:16
them in the next few years, they got a tremendous amount of
40:19
talent coming off their bench first round draft picks.
40:22
And they just, they, they have something that we haven't seen a
40:27
young team have in a very, very long time.
40:30
Dedication to playing two-dimensional basketball and
40:33
doing it so well on both sides of the ball.
40:36
And nobody is bigger than the team.
40:39
Even Shy Alexander after the game and they interviewed him
40:43
and he was the MVP of the Western Conference finals.
40:47
He came out and after he won and he got that trophy, he said my
40:51
team is what made me become the player that I became.
40:57
I wasn't the player I was before I came to the NBA and I
41:02
transitioned as a team player. I built my opportunities as a
41:07
player to become who I am today. And it wouldn't be because it's
41:10
it's because of my coaching staff.
41:12
It's because of the players that I play around and we are a
41:15
family. Do you ever hear Anthony Edwards
41:17
say that? Did you ever hear Anthony
41:20
Edwards say, hey, my family, this is this?
41:22
It's not that. No, you got a chance to watch
41:25
him on TikTok dancing with his sister in his living room.
41:29
I don't know what the hell he's doing.
41:30
I wearing these like uggs slippers and and looking like a
41:34
fool. OK, you never see him, you know,
41:37
enjoy himself on a basketball court unless he scores 40 and
41:41
he's and his team is winning. And that's why Luka Dodgick and
41:45
Kyrie Irving beat him in the Western Conference finals last
41:49
year. As bad as they did in the in the
41:51
Western Conference. I don't think the Timberwolves
41:53
are ever going to get over the hump.
41:55
They're never going to get over the hump because I don't think
41:58
Anthony Edwards is going to take him there.
42:00
And maybe Alex Rodriguez is going to figure that out.
42:02
Maybe he won't. But I the kind of person Alex
42:05
Rodriguez is, you know, Alex in the offseason is going to be
42:09
sitting down and talking to a guy like Anthony Edwards and
42:12
telling him like, like you're the leader.
42:14
You're you got to go out there. You got to be you got to show
42:16
yourself as a leader and don't go over there and point your
42:19
fingers at people. I don't think, and I'll say this
42:21
again, as much as people don't like Alex Rodriguez, and a lot
42:26
of people don't, have you ever heard any of his teammates
42:30
besides Derek Jeter? OK.
42:32
And that that not in front of the the press, but you've heard
42:36
it through stories and books that have been written.
42:39
Have you ever heard guys like Robertson Canal, Jabba
42:43
Chamberlain, Melchi Cabrera, anybody come out and say that
42:48
Alex Rodriguez wasn't a good teammate, wasn't a good leader,
42:52
wasn't a person that you can look up to and go to his locker
42:55
room, the locker and talk to him after the game and give him some
42:58
tips? Every single, by the way, when
43:00
Sanchez, when Gary Sanchez was not playing well with the
43:04
Yankees, who did he go and talk to during the All Star break?
43:10
Who did he talk to? He went to sit down with Alex
43:12
Rodriguez and Jlo. Does anybody remember that?
43:15
Why would Gary Sanchez, who by the way, Alex Rodriguez was not
43:19
a part of the organization, he was retired.
43:21
Why would Gary Sanchez go to sit down with Alex Rodriguez?
43:25
Because he respected him and Alex Rodriguez understands how
43:28
to be great and how to push the right buttons.
43:32
Maybe he does that with Anthony Edwards.
43:34
But for right now, I don't know if anybody is excited in the
43:38
offseason, who do they have to trade?
43:40
They gave up a lot to get what's his name in the big man?
43:44
Gobert They gave up. Four first round.
43:46
Four first round draft picks, they set their team back.
43:49
They thought, hey, Gobert, Karl Anthony Towns and a guy like
43:54
Anthony Edwards, you're going to be an outstanding team.
43:57
And by the way, if you think about it, Karl Anthony Towns is
44:00
playing with the Knicks. Gobert is just like Mitchell
44:03
Robertson, is he not? And Carl Anthony Towns is
44:06
playing probably. And Jalen Brunson is kind of
44:09
like Anthony Edwards. He's an offensive player and not
44:12
as good a defensive player as Anthony Edwards.
44:14
But nevertheless, Anthony Edwards, Anthony Edwards didn't
44:17
play stick of defense in that series either.
44:20
So I I mean, I'm going, I'm rambling because I just it's not
44:25
the fact I'm not giving a lot of people saying you're not giving
44:27
OKCA lot of credit. Maybe so.
44:31
I think OK C is a very talented team and everybody expects OK C
44:35
to be there probably for the next five years in the the
44:38
Western Conference Finals. They're that talented.
44:41
They have a tremendous amount of money that they can spend in the
44:43
offseason if they want Giannis and they fall short against the
44:46
Knicks or the Pacers. If that ever happens, they could
44:49
go after Giannis, enter the enter the Coupa, whatever his
44:52
name. Hey, look at that.
44:54
They could go after whoever they want because they got the money
44:57
to go out there and spend it because they all these guys are
45:01
under their rookie contract. Practically all of them except
45:03
Shy and and maybe Jalen. I think Jalen Williams paid and
45:08
that was and that was it. That's it.
45:10
Even the veterans Hartenstein got AI guess a semi decent deal
45:13
but even his. Deal is not sad.
45:14
I mean, it's it to me. This is going to be a team
45:16
that's going to be very good for many, many years.
45:18
I didn't think this was their year.
45:19
I thought next year and, and moving forward, I think it was
45:22
going to be at least another year, but I was he's wrong.
45:25
And I, I'll, I'll give Keith a lot of credit.
45:27
He's at OK C going to the finals and winning the championship.
45:30
So maybe he's right. Maybe OK C this will be their
45:33
first championship. But it, it's a pretty
45:36
unbelievable story. And, and to me, it's, it's not
45:40
the fact that OK C won and they're moving on because a lot
45:43
of people would probably a lot of the experts would have said
45:45
that OK C, even though I thought the Timberwolves were going to
45:48
win because they've had the experience.
45:50
What really stood out is the no show of Anthony Edwards in this
45:54
series. There was no show.
45:56
He had one good game in this whole series.
46:00
And that is the problem. It's not the fact that, and I'm
46:03
again, OK C congratulations to the OK C Thunder.
46:07
It's an amazing story. It's an amazing organization
46:10
that has had a lot of great talent there for years and never
46:13
got over the hump and never won a championship.
46:15
You're going to see the OK C Thunder here a lot.
46:18
This is not going to be the last.
46:20
It won't be the first. Well, it is the first for a long
46:22
time. It's, it hasn't been the first,
46:24
but you know what I mean. It's since 2012.
46:26
This won't be the last time you're going to see this team go
46:29
out for another championship. This is the best team in a
46:31
Western Conference. This will be the best team in
46:34
the Western Conference for the next 5 to 6 years because of the
46:36
young talent they have there. But it this story goes really
46:40
deeper into the Timberwolves problem and Anthony Edwards.
46:44
I'll start. I think it's the Minnesota
46:45
problem. They haven't had anybody of the
46:47
four major sports for 34 years, since 91.
46:51
Right, the difference is Java like.
46:53
I think there are some good like well run franchises when it
46:56
comes to those sports. Seems like the Vikings I think
46:58
have the 7th or 6th best winning percentage in NFL history.
47:00
Like they're just bad in the playoffs.
47:02
The other three teams have been kind of stuck in mediocrity and
47:04
the Timberwolves have started to find a model for that kind of
47:06
thing too. But you're they're still missing
47:07
particular things. And Errol brought up the Rudy
47:09
Gobert trade. At the time when they traded for
47:11
Gobert, they were one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA
47:14
and they kind of made a panic move at that point.
47:16
And since then, since then, they haven't been able to build in
47:18
other areas that they wanted to build in.
47:19
They made some good trades, obviously bringing in Mike
47:21
Conley for the veteran leadership.
47:23
Obviously they drafted some good defensive role players off the
47:25
bench, but their wing scoring has been horrible in this.
47:27
They've been a top five defense all season long.
47:30
And then they go into this series and they're letting the
47:32
OKC Thunder score 130, a 120. Absolutely embarrassing.
47:37
Absolutely embarrassing. And that goes for leadership.
47:40
Anthony Edwards. You, you want to be the leader.
47:43
You want to be the the IT factor, the truth.
47:46
Well, guess what? Paul Pierce will tell you when
47:48
the Celtics weren't winning and they couldn't get over the hump
47:51
with Antoine Walker. Remember that What did what?
47:54
Who who they're going to after the game.
47:56
They weren't going to Antoine Walker.
47:57
They were going to the young Paul Pierce because he called
48:00
himself the truth. So guess what?
48:04
If you want to be called the truth, you're going to take it
48:07
and take the truth. And the truth is, you absolutely
48:10
sucked in the playoffs. And that's the other thing too,
48:13
like with a team that's much more defensive driven, you can't
48:15
have those types of offensive liabilities.
48:17
Shout out to Julius Randall, he actually was very consistent in
48:19
that series. They didn't get anything else
48:21
consistency wise from anyone else in that starting lineup or
48:24
even off the bat. They don't really have great
48:25
wing shooters. I think that's something that
48:27
Minnesota's going to have to address in the offseason.
48:29
That's where something like Alex Rodriguez could come in,
48:31
something like Anthony Edwards could come in.
48:33
If he wants to mature a little bit and get players to want to
48:35
play with him, that's where you can get those missing pieces.
48:38
You saw that the Celtics do that when they won their
48:40
championship. They were missing a couple
48:41
things and they brought it in. Obviously the size of Porzingis.
48:44
They won a championship last year and the Timberwolves, they
48:46
want to feel like they're right at that cost, but they're kind
48:48
of stuck in that. I guess you would call it an in
48:51
between. Like you want to think that they
48:52
can make a leap, but they're still missing a lot of key
48:54
things. And Anthony Edwards, it looked
48:56
like for a while was going to be that next rising scorer type
49:00
player. And then all of a sudden he's
49:01
saying all these things and he's disappearing after.
49:03
He's like being cocky with LeBron, being cocky with Kevin
49:05
Durant. And all of a sudden they can't
49:07
do it against a better team like this in OK C But at the same
49:09
time, OK C is a model that you want to live by.
49:12
My pinky is bigger than yours. I've always said the Celtics as
49:15
the model, as one of the models you want to live by, and OK C is
49:17
the other one. And OK, C is obviously taking
49:19
the Paul George trade and turning and all those players
49:21
and they don't have a defensive liability in that lineup too.
49:23
And that's what. Makes Java takes it up the S.
49:25
Very tough. I've always said the model too.
49:27
In today's game, we're deviating away from big threes.
49:30
Now we're going on two stars. Is that your cucumber or are you
49:33
happy to see me? And good depth 3 through 8 and I
49:36
think OKC has that plus the versatility.
49:38
Any of a superstar player like Shy who's not selfish either.
49:41
You're talking about his post game interview, Errol crediting
49:43
his teammates. We saw that with Jokic.
49:44
We've seen that with Giannis. Those are what these modern
49:46
superstars are doing. Not like Anthony Edwards who's
49:50
throwing blame on all of his team mates when he took thirteen
49:53
shots and saying it was their fault he didn't do that.
49:55
Shy wasn't doing that kind of thing and you really just see
49:57
the culture go into effect in OK C.
49:59
How does anyone with a lot of players that were home grown and
50:01
played together? The problem right now with the
50:04
Timberwolves lies on Anthony Edwards.
50:06
And if Anthony I. Disagree.
50:07
Know what the problem was last night and the last couple of
50:10
games? Anthony Edwards?
50:12
Nope, it was Nick's Julius Randall showing up for the
50:17
Timberwolves. We've seen this one over and
50:20
over and over again, guys. The empty points with the sieve
50:24
defense and the turnovers. Speedy, He may have led the team
50:28
in points, but he was a -, 20. He was and he was, should have
50:35
been on the bench. He was that bad in the game.
50:37
But he was the only one scoring, so they had to keep him out
50:40
there. He was terrible.
50:42
And they had a team that was his, his absolute kryptonite.
50:45
And they were saying that his rating the last few games, it
50:48
was like -62 So if you take a look at how he played the last
50:53
few games, what a nightmare. And what he does that you know
50:57
how it affects the rest of the team.
50:58
We've seen it for years. And I think that Anthony Edwards
51:02
realized that good Julius Randall a lot of fun to play
51:06
with like he had earlier in the playoffs when Julius Randall had
51:09
that 24 point triple double. This Julius Randall is the one
51:12
that loses. I disagree that's.
51:14
What happened? When you're what was this?
51:16
What what was Anthony Edwards in the Game 7 for 16/7 for 18.
51:22
If you're 7 for 18, you're going to have to give the ball to the
51:25
guy that is not being defended or double teamed.
51:28
And if Anthony Edwards is such a superstar, he has to find a way
51:32
to move on the perimeter, get open and make his shots.
51:36
He had many chances to find a way of find a lane and he
51:40
couldn't handle the pressure that the OKC Thunder was giving
51:44
them. And by the way, Shy Alexander
51:45
was absolutely extraordinary when he was defending Anthony
51:49
Edwards. He pressed on him.
51:50
He made Anthony Edwards take tough shots and that's what you
51:54
want to see from your superstar player.
51:56
Play 2 dimensional basketball. Now, I don't want to hear from
51:58
Keith. Tell me that Shy Alexander is
52:00
Michael Jordan. He is not Michael Jordan.
52:03
No, he said that. Well, he said that Shy Alexander
52:06
is like the Michael Jordan of this day.
52:07
He's not. He's not Michael Jordan.
52:10
Michael Jordan was a completely different talent.
52:13
And and yeah, Shy Alexander's a better shooter than Michael
52:15
Jordan, but Michael Jordan didn't have to be a shooter in
52:18
those days. All Michael Jordan needed to do
52:20
was, you know, draw the double teams, play that that triangle
52:24
offense and make sure that when he was getting his lanes, he was
52:28
finding the lanes and soaring to the hoop.
52:31
That's what Michael Jordan did. And that's why Michael Jordan
52:33
was one of the greatest. It was the greatest basketball
52:36
player of all time because he had, what do they call it, water
52:40
in his veins, ice in his veins, or whatever the hell they call
52:43
it. But he was special.
52:45
Anthony Edwards doesn't have ice in his veins.
52:48
Anthony Edwards has sheep in his veins.
52:51
If he can have sheep blood in your veins, well, that's what he
52:54
has. He's a sheep.
52:56
He's a goat, that's what he is. And he's far from a goat.
53:01
I mean, whatever. If you need to get blood, if you
53:04
lose your blood, Jabba, he's got a goat.
53:06
He's got a goat. He's got, he's got.
53:08
Goat. He's got goat blood, but goat
53:09
means he's not of all time. No, I didn't say he was.
53:12
Yeah. But he also could be a
53:13
scapegoat. He.
53:13
Is a goat, that doesn't mean he's.
53:16
Got like that? By the way, I never got.
53:18
I never. Here's the thing.
53:19
Greatest of all time. I understand that.
53:21
But if you look at a goat, is that animal the greatest thing
53:24
to look at of all time? Come on, that's one of the
53:26
ugliest animals to look at, so how is that the?
53:29
Fainting. The feigning goats are are top
53:31
notch. Though Oh yeah, probably by
53:33
eating them, that's about it. Or looking at them, you.
53:35
Scare them and they just, they just faint.
53:37
It's awesome. It's pretty funny, you should
53:39
look it. Up No, I don't want to look at a
53:41
goat into fainting. Java going back to Anthony
53:43
Edwards blood though, he this is what I was referring to with the
53:46
stars though he might be considered the black sheep of
53:48
NBA superstars though, because like he's being one that is
53:51
throwing responsive, throwing blame on everyone else too.
53:53
And that's where his blood comes in, where all these other modern
53:56
younger superstars, I would say not the not the LeBron era type
53:58
ones, but all these outside of Joel Embiid, I would say like
54:01
there's not really any like modern era from the 2017 draft
54:05
on superstars that are like somebody like Anthony Haywards
54:08
is outspoken as cocky as he is. And that's the other extreme
54:10
you're seeing with Shy, Like he's not really being like that.
54:13
Why is Josh Hart shooting 3 pointers?
54:15
I I mean this is exactly what the New York Knicks was not
54:18
supposed to do. They had a 50 at one point they
54:21
had a 12 point lead and now it's cut down to 5.
54:24
Game of Run. It's a great it's a game.
54:26
Well, guess what? What?
54:27
That's not how they're going to win this game.
54:29
It can't be a game. That's why I told they got to
54:30
slow it down. But you know, like.
54:32
No, you said you had to pay. You want to.
54:34
You want them to play the Pacers game.
54:36
That's what you said. I'm pretty sure said no, I
54:39
didn't. No, I didn't.
54:40
I. Said I want you to slow it down.
54:41
How are the Knicks? They can't play the Pacers game.
54:43
The Pacers game is to go faster than anyone in NBA is.
54:46
You just said it. I said that.
54:47
The Knicks. I said slow it down.
54:49
That's the opposite of what the Pacers do.
54:51
I, I don't know, I'm pretty sure you said the opposite thing, but
54:55
I, I'm pretty. Sure.
54:56
No, he said. We have the videotape.
54:58
It down. I said it like that.
55:00
You're like. You can't do it well.
55:03
Well, I'll say, Anthony, look, it's not that I support.
55:06
Anyone. Anthony Edwards is the most
55:10
immature star in the league. It's just a fact.
55:13
Next to John Morant, I guess. There's a lot of.
55:15
Immature right of a case. So there's a lot of immature.
55:18
There's a lot. Joel Embiid, I think he gets a
55:21
bad rap, I think. James Harden is immature.
55:24
He's been armed. W Russell Westbrook has been
55:27
immature. Over the years, Westbrook got
55:28
into some trouble yelling at like Ramona.
55:30
Kyrie Irving, Are you kidding me?
55:33
Kyrie Irving's very immature. I mean, I could go on and on.
55:36
Draymond Green is. Draymond Green really a star
55:40
though. He is a.
55:41
Star He. Is a star.
55:43
He's a great example. Let's talk about that for a
55:45
second. Draymond Green may be immature
55:47
in his actions, but the man has also won a bunch of
55:50
championships and he's been up the defensive anchor and he's
55:54
made all NBA teams. You could say what you want
55:57
about him, but those things are true.
55:58
He's not a great shooter. He's not, you know, he's not a
56:00
great offensive player, but he does.
56:03
Either was Dennis Rodman. Right.
56:05
Yeah, similar vein, right. So he may be immature, but not
56:10
in the way that it hurts the team.
56:12
Anthony Edwards is immature in the way that it hurts the team.
56:15
And that's the problem. He doesn't realize that he has
56:18
to lead by example. And when he doesn't show up or
56:21
he gets bottled up and he starts venting like he's Jay Cutler
56:24
yelling at his players. Because that's what it looks
56:27
like to. Me.
56:29
That's not going to work, man, and that's why I don't know what
56:33
the end is going to be. He's going to either have to
56:34
mature or he's going to have to be second banana to somebody
56:38
that is mature. But I also think too like when
56:41
you start, I guess perceiving other stuff and pushing on other
56:45
people, now guys start doing stuff that they're not supposed
56:48
to be doing and then they start pressing because they like to
56:51
pick up slack. When it's like, hey, you'd be
56:54
like, hey, we're in this as a team, whatever.
56:56
If somebody doesn't pick somebody up, then it's not like,
56:58
oh, I have to do it. It's just like he's going to get
57:00
me the ball and we can do it. I just like we've talked about
57:03
playing. I just don't know, like really
57:04
where in what headspace is he in?
57:06
Does he want to be the best? Does he not want to be the best?
57:08
Like you don't have to score 35 every night, but if you go get
57:11
18 and drop 15 Dimes like and play good defense, like just
57:16
that's just as good. Just think that roster, I'm
57:19
sorry, Errol, that roster construction.
57:21
If Randall's not having a good game and he's he's not like
57:24
facilitating the ball and Anthony Edwards is in the tank,
57:27
who's creating offense? Who do they have?
57:30
Jaden McDaniels, not a creator of offense.
57:33
He's God bless him. He's worked on his shot to be a
57:35
competent and NBA player and starter, but no one's going to
57:38
say he has an average, let alone above.
57:40
Average. Just think of this and I'll say
57:43
it again, they had Karl Anthony Towns, they drafted him.
57:46
He was the number one pick in the draft.
57:48
OK #1 Anthony Edwards was the number one pick in a draft.
57:53
So they have had a lot of luck in the NBA draft and usually
57:58
when you get you get a chance to draft game changing players like
58:02
Karl Anthony Towns and Anthony Edwards and you have them on the
58:05
same roster. It means you have a very good
58:08
chance if you develop them to win championships.
58:10
Now you look at obviously OK C Thunder, practically they're
58:14
starting five besides Hornstein, our first round talents, just
58:18
think about it, every one of them have been first round picks
58:23
and and look how they developed them.
58:24
They developed them. It took a little while.
58:26
Shia Alexander's been in the league for like 5 years.
58:29
He's never played in the finals, never.
58:32
And now he's got a chance to play in the Finals.
58:35
Same thing with all the young players that they have on that
58:37
roster. Haunstein's never been there.
58:39
He played for the Knicks and he hasn't He's been a journeyman.
58:42
I said that over and over again. Tom Thibodeau really changed his
58:45
outlook to the game of basketball.
58:47
He's become an all around good basketball player because he had
58:51
his chance to play with the Knicks.
58:53
Now I go back to the the whole Anthony Edwards thing and the
58:56
and the Timberwolves thing. You sit here today and you're
58:59
the owner of this organization. You're Alex Rodriguez, and you
59:02
say, OK, what do we have or what do we need to do in the
59:06
offseason that's going to make this team better?
59:09
And you look at Julius Randle. Do you sign Julius Randle and
59:13
give him an extension? I don't know.
59:17
Or do you trade? You sign and trade Julius
59:20
Randle, you trade Dante Divicenzo and you look in the
59:24
offseason where hey, maybe we can move Anthony Edwards, shock
59:28
the world, move Anthony Edwards to an organization that's going
59:32
to give us a slew of picks and one superstar that's going to
59:35
help us still compete for the playoffs.
59:39
And if I was Alex Rodriguez from all those different things that
59:42
I view out, I keep Julius Randall because you can still
59:46
work and and use Julius Randall to get you into the playoffs.
59:50
I would trade Anthony Edwards. I would move Anthony Edwards
59:54
because Anthony Edwards is not a winning player.
59:57
He's not a winning teammate and he's not a leader and you're not
1:00:00
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