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Welcome! Lets Talk $hit and Eat Chips! · Talk $hit & Eat Chips

• Carolyn: Hello, welcome to our brand new podcast. This is called Talk Shit and Eat Chips because we really love to do that. I am one of your hosts, Carolyn, Rebecca: Yeah. Carolyn: and my lovely co-host is Rebecca. I am here in Toronto. She's in New York. So we decided because we're good friends, we're gonna start this because our countries are, you know, at work Rebecca: Lore. Carolyn: ish. We're least really pissed off at each other. But also, we met through work and fun fact, we both work in the pleasure product industry, right? Which Rebecca: Yeah. Carolyn: in layman's terms is like we sell sex toys and lube, right? So we got shit like that to talk about, we got shit like Canada US stuff to talk about and really anything else that comes to mind. So Rebecca, you want to introduce yourself? Rebecca: Hi, I'm Rebecca, and I'm Carolyn's friend, first and foremost, and then a mom and then a wife. No, I'm joking. hi, welcome to the show. I'm Rebecca, and I'm super pleased to do this with Carolyn. We both agreed that we had to do our part for world peace, and also that we couldn't keep the brilliance of our little weekly fun phone calls to ourselves as we talked shit about our industry, about politics. And about the world in general. so let's get into it. Carolyn: We might throw in some menopause shit too, 'cause you know, that's just how we are. Cause if we're suffering, you gotta listen to it. So we're going there. Rebecca: Full on well, and I know we're not alone. Ladies, I see you. Yeah, Carolyn: No, we are not alone. Rebecca: we we are absolutely not alone. So there'll be a few menopause tips thrown in and not just get yourself a fan, but other things about everything, top to bottom, bowels, the whole shebang. So we have fun. Unfortunately, we have no chips today, which is a little bit unfortunate. Carolyn has chips. What are you eating today, Carolyn? Carolyn: Okay, so in honor of Dolly Parton, I have World of Flavors Nashville. So, like, she's from Tennessee, right? I hope, because then that would be really awkward. She is. So I have Nashville Hot Rebecca: She is no, yes, she is from Memphis. Carolyn: Wing chips, apparently. So I will try them for you and let you know. Chips are getting a little off the hook right now. Like, I think we picked a good time to do this because the flavors out there are just Honestly, a bit ridiculous, so do I have to try it now? Rebecca: Yeah. I just came back I was in France for for this summer and there was like French the French have just gone nuts with chips. I couldn't believe it. So many flavors. Like Carolyn: no. We're like Okay. Rebecca: goat cheese and and red pepper. Carolyn: But see, like that's very European, right? What we're getting Rebecca: Yeah. Carolyn: actually it's really funny because Toronto is so multicultural, right? And so like this is PC brand, which is like our major like grocery store, and they do all their own stuff. So it's like Nashville hot sauce, masala, jerk chicken. So we've got like the Rebecca: Ooh. Carolyn: international, you know, flavors of the world represented in our chips. So Rebecca: That's awesome. in the States when we do international, it's either Mexican or Italian. That's about Carolyn: Yes. Rebecca: all we get. Carolyn: They smell like barbecue. Rebecca: Like, yeah, Italians International. I saw Parmesan. Carolyn: You guys have barbecue chips, right? Rebecca: We have barbecue. We are very good at barbecue. We have a lot of different barbecue flavors and they're all pretty decent. Barbecue is one of the Carolyn: These smell barbecue. Rebecca: it's a for sure clout crowd freezer. We also have, and this is more controversial, ranch. Ranch dressing. Yeah. Carolyn: Understand you guys in your ranch dressing. Like we have it, but Rebecca: Well 'cause see, now I grew up in Texas, okay? So let me tell you, Carolyn: okay. Rebecca: don't come at my ranch. When ranch dressing is good, it's like you saw God. It's the best dressing you've ever had. Unfortunately, there is a lot of crappy ranch dressing out there. And Carolyn: I mean, I guess I've only had craft. Rebecca: yeah, hm. You poor thing. See that's Carolyn: I don't even know what it's made of. It's one of those things that just comes fully formed. Rebecca: Yeah, exactly. I think they have a machine and they push a button and ranch dressing comes out. That's it. Carolyn: That's it. Okay. Do we want a chip report? Rebecca: Yeah, so what do you think? Crunchiness on a level of one to ten. Mm-hmm. Carolyn: Crunchy is good. I do like a ripple. Rebecca: I love a ripple. Mm. Carolyn: I'm a spice wimp. So it's a little bit, it is like a barbecue, but with spice. And Rebecca: Mm-hmm. Carolyn: it has a little bit of like a, yeah, you know, like a like of that hot sauce, hot sauce bit of vinegary tinge to it. Rebecca: I'm not a huge fan of like the Tabasco kind of vinegar. Yeah. Well, so it's like a buffalo wing. Carolyn: Definitely, yeah. It's definitely giving me that. I can see people who would really like these. Rebecca: Mm. Carolyn: Bit smoky. Rebecca: I do like a smokey. That would be the Nashville, Carolyn: I mean Rebecca: I guess. Carolyn: I don't know yeah. I don't know. Sweet southern kick. yeah, there's the kick. Rebecca: Get that girl a glass of water. Carolyn: Yeah, it's got that like in the in the back of your throat, you're just like, yeah, there it is. Rebecca: See, this this kind of chip would make a girl like you appreciate a ranch chip. Carolyn: Okay, it's not untrue. I'm gonna send Rebecca: Ha ha ha. Carolyn: you some of the bizarre chips that we have because this summer it was just we also had a line of Canadian chips. So I'm gonna send you some of those because we had protein and what else do we Rebecca: Mm. Carolyn: have? Donaire, which Rebecca: like Donner kebab? yeah. Carolyn: Yeah, which I've never had, I hate to say, 'cause like I'm in Toronto and that's a very East Coast thing, but isn't it like a swarma but with a sweet sauce? Rebecca: No, I don't know about the sauce, but Donner Carolyn: Yeah. Rebecca: kebab is the world over the thing you get when you're going home and you've had too much to drink. It's amazing. I mean and Carolyn: But out out east. Rebecca: strangely enough, considering it's a Muslim thing that everybody drinks when they're drunk. Everybody goes for it when they're drunk. But yeah, Donner kebab is I mean, I love a Donner kebab. That's awesome. Carolyn: See, I don't know. Like I think we're talking swarma because here a donair, Rebecca: Mm-hmm. Carolyn: like we say, is I'm pretty sure it has something sweet going on, which a swarma does not. So I don't know. Rebecca: Hmm. Well, I mean, you know how it is is you we take these foods from other lands and we make them our own. This is how we we move forward. I mean well, yeah. I mean, look at this. Look at look at American Chinese. I mean, you know what I'm saying? American Mexican. Carolyn: Okay, fair. American Mexican. You guys did some wrong stuff to Mexican. Rebecca: Totally. But in Texas, we did it right. Tex Mex is freaking amazing and it's its own thing. Yeah, that's the big truth. Carolyn: Well, you're on the border. And the further inland you get, the worse it gets. Rebecca: Yeah, full on. I mean, I was really disappointed here in New York. You can get a tac taco absolutely anywhere. There's tacos coming out of our ears. But Carolyn: Yeah. Rebecca: they're no good. They're just no good. Carolyn: see Rebecca: well, the number one taco stand has just opened here and everyone's talking about I haven't checked it out yet. But the bar's so low. You know. Carolyn: I mean, we have like a huge wave of Mexican places. So I live in Greek town, which Rebecca: Mm-hmm. Carolyn: ironically only has about two Greek restaurants left. But now there's about five, there's about five Mexican restaurants, but my good friend is Mexican, so she can give me the lowdown on what is actually good and what's not. And I've been there like Rebecca: Right. Carolyn: a bunch of times too. So, you know, which ones actually have the good shit. Cause I think we have huge. huge waves of Mexican immigration coming here too now. So we have the authentic Rebecca: yeah. Carolyn: stuff. Rebecca: That's really good. No, I mean, yeah. I mean the the the only people who can really make Mexican food are Mexicans. actually to be honest, Mexicans are probably making most of the food you get, no matter where it's coming supposedly coming from these days. I mean in New York Carolyn: Actually. Rebecca: there are there are a lot of Mexicans in the kitchen 'cause those people know how to cook. You know what I mean? Carolyn: You know what though? The really interesting thing is I notice that whenever I'm in the States, and I do for Rebecca: Mm. Carolyn: listeners, I go there a lot, right? And I'm Rebecca: In Carolyn: in LA a lot and Vegas and haven't been to New York in a hot minute, but Rebecca: Yeah, well you know my my h my home is always open to you. Come. Carolyn: Yes. And you can always come here until they close the borders. Who knows, right? Like. my. Yeah. And hey, Rebecca: I'll use my French passport. Major Sweetie Francaise. Carolyn: maybe I can get an EU passport. Right? Like in we were veering from Rebecca: Do it. Go for it. I think you should. Then we can both Carolyn: like chips to food to politics, but like, my God. It's been a really Rebecca: Well, let's talk about let's go with the flow. Carolyn: interesting few weeks. Holy crap. Rebecca: Well, this is it. I can't believe it. Like, so basically Canada is gonna join the EU. Amazing. Carolyn: As an associate member, which doesn't exist, so we kind of get to make it up as we go along, which is kind of cool. Rebecca: No, but I love I love they're like this is like they were like, We're gonna figure something out. Let's make something up. They were like, Yeah, Carolyn: We like you. Let's do this. Rebecca: let's do this. But like, do you realize what this opens the door for? So Ukraine could become an associate member. Carolyn: Mm. Yeah. Rebecca: Because they're they're not a part of the European Union, but now they're an associate member. So this is a loophole. I feel like this Carolyn: Mm. Rebecca: is a precedent that they're setting, not just because they like Canada, though I do think that that was a part of it. And it's also a big like to America and Trump more than anything Carolyn: Yep. Yeah. Rebecca: else. So this so France has just set up a huge trade agreement with Mexico. And now the European Union is setting up An associate an association of some sort with Canada, man, they are cutting us right out of the pie. It's brilliant. Carolyn: You know what? I betcha Australia will be next. 'Cause why not? Everyone loves an Australian. Rebecca: for sure. Why not? Completely. And Australia is like, please, we need somebody. China is right there and they're our only trading partner. So I mean, like, yeah, full on. I mean, honestly, Carolyn: Yeah? Yeah. Rebecca: why not? I think it's it's a brilliant move on the part of the Europeans. I mean, like, honestly, they are throwing shade over there so hard. I I suspect that this is coming from more than anything, this is coming from the Scandinavian countries. who are furious still over Greenland and Carolyn: Yeah. Rebecca: felt very threatened. So, Carolyn: Of course. Well, and then, you know, like I was in the States when Trump started his making Canada the 51st state stuff. And we've never been threatened before. And Rebecca: Yeah. Carolyn: you know, like we are the nicest people on earth, but have you ever met a Canada goose, right? Like we're Rebecca: But don't fuck with you. Carolyn: kind of like that, where we're we're just we will. Rebecca: We'll come at you, we will bite your ankles, we will fit and then we will shit all over your lawn. This is like Full On. Carolyn: Exactly. Exactly. And we hold a grudge. We like there there are cities and whole provinces that hold grudges against the states for like pulling a factory out in the 1940s. That's real shit. Rebecca: I can believe it. Well, what about that? God, where was it? It was somewhere around the Great Lakes. What about that bridge deal? Do you remember this? my god. Carolyn: yeah. I went over that bridge. Rebecca: That was some real low-level BS, man. I cannot believe it. I mean, like, it's gotten petty f on a level Carolyn: Howdy. Rebecca: that is insane. So, to provide a little context, there was an old bridge. And in between Michigan, was it Michigan and Canada, right? And Carolyn: Yeah. Detroit. Rebecca: so there was an old bridge that was like rickety and falling down, but it belongs to a millionaire in the United States. And a new bridge had been negotiated between Michigan and Canada years and years and years, years and years of construction. It's finally ready to open. And Trump refuses to let it open because guess who has donated to his campaign? This guy who owns the old bridge. Carolyn: Yeah. Yeah. Rebecca: And he refuses to let it open. Canada goes apeshit. He's so pissed off. And so does Michigan, who who spent a ton of money on this. But Canada Carolyn: Yeah. Rebecca: paid for 70% of the bridge. Carolyn: Yeah. Rebecca: It should be noted. So yeah, that whole thing was like, so this kind of stuff, I can understand why Canada's got their their their their panties in a twist. I got you. Yeah. Carolyn: I mean, like, for forget the bridge. You threaten us, like seriously? What the hell? And also, I think a big thing with Canadians, I mean, you know, like I'm fourth generation, British ancestry. You're very typical, like waspy Canadian, right? And when things don't make sense, it just pisses us off. We're very sensible people. And you know, when you're like, Rebecca: Yes, this is true. This is true. Carolyn: what, what? I just what? I I don't understand why how, you know, and then you guys have to have that leading your country. And we're just sitting here going, What? Rebecca: Listen, you no to be honest, you're not the only ones. I mean, we also, I well personally, personally do not understand. I mean I do. I do understand. It's it's all red herrings, it's all look at this hand, well this hand's shoving money in my pocket, you know, it's a lot of that kind of stuff. But in terms of like logic on the grand scheme of world politics. It's none. I mean, I feel like you know, and and also I'm gonna say it, not always popular. It's all these fucking white men in politics, these old white dudes. I'm like, they're senile. Carolyn: right? Rebecca: We need to get them out. They have to go away. They're they're senile. Carolyn: Yeah. like literally senile though. Literally. Rebecca: Literally senile. Carolyn: People wheeling into vote and being told when to raise their hand and I'm like, what? What is going on? People going missing for weeks on end, still getting paid, like Rebecca: Yes. And still not there. They're still not there. I, you know, we have become a punchline. So it's it's a little bit depressing. Unfortunately, Carolyn: Yeah. Rebecca: we're a punchline with a humongous neutr nuclear arsenal. Carolyn: Yeah. Rebecca: So it's it's yeah, crazy times. Crazy times. But I think that I don't know, midterm elections are coming up in November. Carolyn: Yeah. Rebecca: I don't know. We'll have to see what Carolyn: I Rebecca: happens. Carolyn: you know what? I was so sure that he wasn't gonna get in a second time, so I am just and you know what? I really Rebecca: I wasn't. I knew it. Carolyn: resent as a Canadian that I have to know all this shit. Why am I have to know that your midterms are coming up? I don't wanna know that. Why do I care? I don't wanna care. Rebecca: what? I follow Canadian politics. I follow your ex-Prime Minister is is dating Katy Perry. I follow that. Carolyn: You know, I think his kids are probably like teenagers now. I wonder if they're just mortified, like, Dad, my God. Katie Perry, like she's so lame. And you're like going a coachella and my God. Rebecca: Hey, you can shit on Katie Perry all you want, but she has been to space. Carolyn: my god. my god. Rebecca: No, I mean I'm s I'm like, hey, let them live, let them do their thing. Two Canadians, let them get on. Carolyn: I j I think it's actually it's hilarious and kind of weird that we could we've never had a prime minister who was young enough to come out of office Rebecca: Yeah. Carolyn: and like get divorced, date a pop star, Rebecca: Have a romantic. Carolyn: like go to Coachella, right? Cause usually when they're done, they're like ready for retirement and they're off playing golf somewhere. He's like living his best life. But so is his ex, I have to say. She is awesome. Rebecca: Yeah, no, we good for her. Good for her. I'm like, Carolyn: And she is living her best life. Yeah. Rebecca: yeah, do it. Well, maybe this divorce was exactly what they both needed. You know what I'm saying? I've been good to it. Well, yeah, Carolyn: Sure. Rebecca: we we don't have that. All we have is George Bush Jr. who he was fairly young when he got out of office. And then in Obamas, the Obamas have been having, but they just they're very low key. Carolyn: Yeah. Yeah. I know. Rebecca: I have to say honestly, they're a pretty classy couple. But they built that beautiful library out in Chicago, absolutely gorgeous. Carolyn: Yeah, I saw that. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Rebecca: And you know, they're basically they're writing books, they're they're doing speeches and hopefully relaxing because I felt like they were exhausted when they left office. Yeah. Carolyn: Right. my god. Can you even and can you imagine like aren't there kids around the same age as our kids? Can you can you imagine doing that? Rebecca: Yeah. They're both both in their twenties now. I mean, look it must be it must be super weird being the child of a president or a prime minister and then going on with your life. Look at Chelsea Clinton. Like she was I don't I mean, how do you like it's hard to escape that nepotism. You know what I mean? Or anything you a you do, people are like, Yeah, but you know, your dad was president, so Carolyn: it's the same with anybody who's a celebrity, which reminds me, I saw this interview with Katherine Zeta Jones, and she was trying to say that her kids didn't benefit from nepotism that you know it's it's actually it's Rebecca: Really, Catherine. Carolyn: actually harder on her kids and like kids like hers because like they got the double whammy they got it on both sides. Like her husband is Rebecca: I know. Carolyn: royalty. Rebecca: He is. Carolyn: And yeah, it's actually they don't benefit from it. It's actually harder because people expect more from them. And you're like, really? Really? Rebecca: Yeah, no. I'm sorry. No, that is such BS. That is such BS. I'm like, girl, stop. Stop. Carolyn: Yeah, you have well, you have no idea how the real like, can you imagine, you know, like if one of your kids was, you know, you know, I want to be an actor. It's the thing I want most in the world. I've taken all these classes and, you know, but they still don't have access to the best directors in Hollywood who are coming over for dinner. Like Rebecca: I exactly. And also just like, I mean, like for crying out loud, it now in the world of social media and all those shit, you cannot get away. Sometimes it's like there are actors who made it just because they had the same last name as another actor and people thought that they were related. I mean, Carolyn: my god, that's funny. Rebecca: for crying out loud, you know? Hey, listen, you know, your kid's a good actor and they get in there. It's such a crapshoot anyway. you know, just just acknowledge nepotism. Just acknowledge it. There's no shame in the game. You know what I mean? If you suck if you suck really hard and you still get the job, well then you know, Carolyn: I mean Rebecca: then I think it's shameful, but Carolyn: Do the same for our kids, you know. Like if if Rebecca: Yeah. Carolyn: I thought that my kid was gonna be really good at selling dildos and that was what he wanted more than anything else in the world, I would hire him. Unfortunately, nobody Rebecca: You'd you'd give him a leg up, full on Carolyn: wants to do that in my house, which I guess you know what? Maybe we should actually tell people what we do for a living. Rebecca: yeah. so parentheses parentheses, let's get back. Carolyn: By the way Rebecca: We had we had a whole plan for this podcast. We we set it all up and we are not following our plan at all. So Carolyn: We are not. So we were supposed to tell you who we actually were, which I you kinda did So I run an online, I own an online sex toy store. Now I own two and I'm a sex educator. Okay, blah, blah, blah. So I do this though, I work from home. And so for like a few years, I'm basically sitting at my home office here and you know, I'm just doing my thing online, whatever, selling the dildos. And then I get this email and it's from this expiz company saying, Hey, there's a show in Miami. Rebecca: expats. Carolyn: We're gonna bring you there so that you can look at stuff. And I'm like, What? I'd never heard of this before. And I remember saying to my partner Rebecca: Ha ha ha Carolyn: Paul, I'm like, I think I just got invited to Miami to go to what trade show? I don't know what's going on. And so sure enough, it was legit. So they bring me to Miami. And you know, I've never been to Florida before. It's very hot. So I I get there. And at that time the show was in the same hotel as all the porn stuff. So like our remember, our industry Rebecca: shoot, yes. Mm-hmm. Carolyn: is actually like porn and sex toys don't always go together. Like they can be they're very separate in a lot of ways. So I Rebecca: And this wasn't just porn, this was the cam show. So Carolyn: Yes. Rebecca: it was like everything under the sun. It's like if you can do it on camera and people can jack off to it, you were there at this show. I think Carolyn: Yeah. It was ch it's chatterbait or something, isn't it? Is that what it is? Rebecca: it was Chatterbait was the this is the big sponsor. But it was so when you would you're in the hotel and it was like every surface of the hotel had a naked butt on it and somebody filming it. It was ridiculous. Ridiculous. The swimming pool? You didn't want to go in the swimming pool. I Carolyn: Well, I did, and it was like a bathtub. It was so hot because it's one of those pools that's just made to look nice and it's like really shallow. So I get there, pasty ass me, and Rebecca: And it's Miami, it's hot as hell. Yeah. Carolyn: it's May, so my body has not seen sun in like multiple months. And so bring my pasty ass down to the pool. And I'm just kind of like, Okay, well, I'm here, I'll go in the water. And so I kind of go in, and then off in the other side of the pool, there's like these giant inflatable beach balls and Nobody was naked or to even topless, but there was scantily cladness going on. I'm like, where am I? What is going on? So then they give you the schedule and you have to go from suite to suite where the meetings are. And so each suite Rebecca: Ha ha ha. Carolyn: is like a different manufacturer of a different product. And so you, you know, you're basically in the hotel going up and down in the elevator, and the elevators kept breaking down. Rebecca: it was the worst. The elevators Carolyn: yeah. Rebecca: breaking down was the worst. And here's the thing you get into the elevator, you're not alone. Because there's only two elevators, and there's a ton of floors, and the third elevator was broken. So you get into the elevator, you're not alone. Every single time, consistently, you are with some theme of chat. The 4-0 chat woman. One time I got on and it was two girls dressed up. Like two different versions of Princess Leia. And I was like, Well, what do you do? And they're like, We have sex with each other. Carolyn: But yet then they're like, what do you do? And I'm like, I sell sex toys. And so they kept wanting to follow me to my meetings because Rebecca: They're Carolyn: they really want free stuff, right? And I mean, so Rebecca: Ha ha ha. Carolyn: I just remember I it was one of my you might have been my very first meeting or one of my very first meetings. And you know, you knock on Rebecca: I don't know. She was like a haven of normalcy in in the morass of total chaos, sexual chaos that was this hotel. Carolyn: Sexual chaos. Rebecca: Here comes this woman. I was like, I like your glasses. Carolyn: You don't know what to expect, knock on the door. So you open the door and it's like, come in and your sweet smelled lovely because you have lovely smelling products and you know, you Rebecca: That's true. Carolyn: had this beautiful little setup with these lovely things that look like cosmetics and nobody was naked Rebecca: Ha ha ha. Carolyn: and like, you know, and then we just started chatting and it turned out that Rebecca: Yet Carolyn: like our kids were the same age and we had all this Rebecca: Mm-hmm. Carolyn: stuff in common and that was it. Rebecca: It was very nice. And so then basically we were inseparable for the rest of the show. And but this this was not my first rodeo. I have to say this. And and later they separated the two shows because it it got it got too crazy. The chatterbait, you had all of the buyers for the cause you know, well Carolyn and I, we work in the in the sexual wellness industry. That's the euphemism that everybody uses. You know, I sell personal lubricants and warming massage oils and things like this. And Carolyn sells vibrators and dildos and all kinds of, you know, sexual paraphernalia. But the truth of the matter is, is it's a real business. But when you associate it with basically all of the the the the the cam people in the the you know in the porn people. Then it gets completely crazy because they're there to party and so and and do business during social occasions, which go very late and usually there's a live sex show. So I they are they hustle full on. Yeah. No, it's real business for Carolyn: Yeah. And like they're hustling. Like those kids are hustling, right? I mean, like they're all looking to get discovered. Rebecca: them too. Yeah, it's it's real business for them too, but it's a completely different vibe. And and and it's fun to to watch, but I had buyers coming in on day three. I had buyers coming in still reeking of alcohol and drugs from the night before and so out of their heads that they fall Carolyn: Yeah. Yeah. Rebecca: asleep during our meetings, which is ridiculous. I was like Carolyn: I don't understand. There are people who like, you know, who are on the buying side of the toy side who still really love to do that whole party thing. And there's fewer Rebecca: Well Carolyn: and fewer of them, but like Rebecca: Our our industry, the n the birth of our industry in the United States came from the mafia and from porn. So Carolyn: Yep. Yeah. Rebecca: the truth of the matter is, especially a lot of those old school guys, we won't say their names, on the show, those old school guys, they they would always like the business was always done at the strip club. The business was always done at the whorehouse, literally, you know, Carolyn: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Rebecca: and things like this. And And not that I have anything against trippers or hoes. Absolutely not. Sex work is real work. But it was a real male dominated field. And basically, you know, that's that's how they would do business. And they continue there is a continuation of that kind of thing. But Carolyn: yeah. Rebecca: to be quite honest, I mean, back in the day, you missed out on AVN, back in the day was the only show. Going down. So we're talking like 20 years ago. And it was so it was at the same time a sex, like you had all the sex toys in one area. And then you had a huge floor of porn stars with their booths, signing papers, taking pictures with people, taking money so that somebody can grab their tits. Yeah. That's a it has evolved. Yeah. Carolyn: And I still go to that show. Yeah. but it has evolved. Like those girls have security, like private security. If they're at a booth, there's like a giant Rebecca: Yeah. Carolyn: security guard standing next to them. And yeah. Rebecca: There should be because people cause it's it there's a public side to that show and people just come and they think, you know, here's this woman that I've jacked off to for you know, how b how many times is over the years and I can just grab her. That's like literally there are a lot of people who can skip I I mean, and it used to happen at the same time as CES, which was wild. Carolyn: It still does a lot. Rebecca: Really? 'Cause they stopped for a while. Cause that was the weirdest cause I'm walking around, I've got my AVM badge on. And all these CES guys are like, What porn is she in? Consumer electronics show. Yeah. Carolyn: Yeah. So that's the consumer electronics, what is it? Consum consumer electronics show, right? Where there's like all of these tech nerds and Rebecca: Yeah. Carolyn: like guys who are and it's very male and it's very and it's massive, right? Rebecca: Mm-hmm. So like on one side you've got like the newest, hottest porn star who is getting, you know, anal sh anal scene of the year. And on the other side, they're launching the brand new app iPhone. So you this is what you have. Carolyn: It's true. Yeah, because I remember being there when I was on that monorail thing or whatever you call it, right? And seeing all the CES badges. And I was like, I wonder how Rebecca: Yes. Carolyn: many of them try and come over and see what's going on. And I get in the taxi from the airport. Rebecca: I would. I mean Carolyn: And I love this. You get in the taxi from the airport and they're like, are you here for CES? And I'll be like, No, I'm here for AVN. And they're like, okay. And like they're so cool about it, but it's Rebecca: They're always like, Carolyn: like, Rebecca: they are s they well, it's Vegas. I mean, like, you know, come on. Small potatoes. Like, but I mean, yeah, it's a Carolyn: The the public is funny. Rebecca: it the public is funny. One time, I mean, AVN funny AVN stories is it was at the Venetian and to get to the Expo Center was like this long, long, long hallway with really deep pile carpet in it. And you'd have to walk it all the way. It was like almost, I would say it was like a half a mile almost. It was ridiculous. And I would see I'm walking and I see women coming, two women coming in wheelchairs. And I'm like, wow. So it's like, you know, alternative porn for people with disabilities. And like this girl's coming and she's wearing literally a bikini that's like It's basically like sparkly tape that just basically covers her nipples and and and little strip down the front, right? And these really, really high heels. And as she gets closer, I realize no, she is not disabled. She just can't walk in those shoes because her heels were like this tall. And with Carolyn: Yep. Rebecca: the pile carpeting. So they're wheeling her down in a wheelchair. And behind her is another woman also being wheeled down in a wheelchair. I was like, Carolyn: Yeah. Yeah. Rebecca: my God. Carolyn: I just I the hotel security, I feel Rebecca: Your spike heels are too high for Vegas. Carolyn: so bad for them because you know, like a lot of those performers, you get really just, you know, immune to nudity. And now it's in Rebecca: full on. Full on. Carolyn: the virgin, I wanna say. And so like other people can be in that hotel, right? And so Rebecca: Right. Carolyn: security has to try and contain the porn rooms because The girls want to come out and just go to their rooms or whatever, but they don't even think like s put on a rope. Rebecca: They don't even realize they got like a nipple out and they're like, Who cares? You know, everybody's seen my nipples. Carolyn: Yeah. And so security's after them all the time, like making them go back in the room and cover up before they can leave, right? And like my favorite Rebecca: Hehehehe Carolyn: thing to do at AVN is the toys are in like a whole other room, a whole other area, and Rebecca: Yeah. Carolyn: the public's not allowed in there. And so that is Rebecca: That's good. Carolyn: just for us. And but there are some brave manufacturers who set up shop in the porn room because they have like app. controlled toys or whatever, or like like cam girls use them, right? Rebecca: Yeah. Carolyn: And so we have set meetings. And when I go to these, Rebecca: jeez. Carolyn: I'm often with my sister who is like my business partner for the sites. And we're both like, you know, ladies of a certain age, whatever, doo-dee-doo. And we have to go to meetings in the porn room sometimes. But to get there, you walk down this big long hallway of all the public who are waiting to get in and of Paid an arm and a leg too for those tickets often to get in and probably paid to get autographs and that. And then here's these Rebecca: my god. Yeah. Carolyn: like two old ladies, like walking down the hallway, and everyone's like, Who the hell are you and where are you going? You know. We are though. We have Rebecca: We're VIPs Carolyn: all access. I have all access passes to AVN. It's just ridiculous. And meanwhile, you walk in the room, you're like, it's so loud. my god, the lights, like I just Rebecca: It's so loud. Well, this is I have to say honestly, Avian is nothing compared to did you ever go to Eurofame when it was in Berlin? my god. Carolyn: No. Berlin. Rebecca: Berlin at the Venus show. Venus was so it was like these huge beer halls. And it's like this huge expo center. So it's like beer hall after beer hall. And these are these huge, like, you know, basically a humongous barn. And you had to go through like five beer halls before you would get to the the one where it was just business, B2B area. And they're full of live sex acts and topless dancers. And I gotta tell you, it just like after day like, and it's a long show. After day five, you just can't take it anymore. It's just too much. And it's not, it's like you don't even see the sex shows because they are surrounded by people with their phones like this filming and everything. Carolyn: Yeah. Yeah. Rebecca: But I just like, I don't know. It was just like there was something so wrong about the energy in there. I'm all for sex positivity. I have friends who do porn. I have absolutely no problem with this. But it was just like it was so, I don't know, not joyful, I guess is the word. Carolyn: Yeah, I think that's there is there's so much hustle and you know, like the a lot of the people are there to try and get a face for themselves, maybe to get picked up to get to that next level or whatever. And so you see a lot of like not just women, young people of all, you know, genders in there, not anymore. Like it was more, but now, you know, they're all I mean, anybody can cam, Rebecca: Yeah. It's not just women. Very important to say this. No. No. Mm. Carolyn: but how popular are you and how many views are you getting and all that kind of stuff, right? So they all want to try and be bigger and have Rebecca: Yeah. Carolyn: more whatever. And so, you know, that's why like they're walking around in their best little skimpy outfit and the makeup and the hair and everything. But you know, like when you see them up close sometimes, you're like, God, you're 21 and you can see the acne under the makeup or you're just like you're a baby, you know? Rebecca: I know and s I mean we're both moms and somehow I feel like I'm like, are you absolutely certain this is the way you want to go with your life? Because the it remains very exploitive. Porn. It remains very Carolyn: Yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing, right? Rebecca: exploitive. I you know, I'll I'll just throw out some figures. The rate of suicide amongst porn stars is incredibly high. And it's not it's not because they don't like having sex and they don't like their job. It's because outside view on the porn industry is so negative that it's really hard for them to l to exist in this this world and doing the thing, sometimes the Carolyn: And they're not always safe. Rebecca: thing that they love. And they are also really not safe. There's a very good point. I mean there's we I mean we get the I get press releases all the time from the free speech coalition and things like this that keep us a little bit up to date on, you know, this porn star who was up and coming and was doing this was just killed by her boyfriend. Or this porn star was doing this, you know, was just killed by some weird stroker. You know what I mean? and and this this crosses over. It's not just the girls, it's the guys too. You know what I mean? Carolyn: Yeah. Yeah. Rebecca: and and and other, you should say, and and and the Carolyn: Yeah. Rebecca: non-binaries. the the truth of the matter is is that it it remains an industry that is rife with dangers and dangers either from exploitation or violence or drug problems and things like this. And it's not it's not because there are not people within the industry that are really trying to make it good. It's really I think because it remains something that is completely not accepted by society. And that's it's hard. Carolyn: And it's it's hard to change, you know. We we should have Rebecca: It is very hard. Carolyn: like I think when we get to the point where we're having guests, I mean, we know people who cam in that. We should have them on to like talk about that, right? What it's like to actually try Rebecca: yeah. I would love it. Full on, full on. Carolyn: and make it in that industry. Cause some of those people who are pretty much strictly cam, God, they have hustle. And they're doing like a million different things on top of, you know, just being on camera, but it Rebecca: yeah. Well, lot of them have s I mean have a side hustle, of course. It's not or Carolyn: Or two or three. Rebecca: or two or three, or sometimes camming is their side hustle because, you know, they Carolyn: Yeah. Rebecca: got kids or they have to do their thing or whatever it is. I kinda like camming a little bit more because I feel like there is more of an opening for creativity in some respects. Carolyn: Yeah. It's true. Rebecca: I mean, like the two girls that were both dressed up like Princess Leia that go at each I was like, wow. You had to think of that. And they were like, we have a ton of followers. I was like, I bet you do. I was like, go for it. Or how about I had a guy, he would hire women, there was no sex involved. It's very important. He would fire hire two women, dress them up in business attire, and they would just tear each other's clothes off and he would film them. He was like, We get a ton of fans. Really, Carolyn: Yeah, I mean Rebecca: I mean, it wasn't even Carolyn: There's a Rebecca: violent. It was just they t were tearing each other's clothes off. It was completely wack. Carolyn: All this stuff with food and, you know, there's there's something out there for everyone, you know. Rebecca: There's a girl on Instagram. I love her. She makes beautiful cakes and then she sits on them. I'm like, go. I gotta be honest. Carolyn: you have to send me that link. I wanna see that. Rebecca: from an ASMR level, it's fantastic. I gotta say it. And she's got a great behind. I mean, it's beautiful. She just sits and she crushes that cake. I mean, and like Carolyn: Nice. Rebecca: people send her, they're like, please do this kind of cake. And can you wear this kind of underwear? And she's like, You got it Carolyn: I really want to see you do a red velvet. Rebecca: Totally wearing red velvet. I mean like woo! Carolyn: Oooooem. Rebecca: Yeah, I'm gonna find that link for you. She's she's cute. Carolyn: God. Rebecca: She's really nice. She clearly loves to bake. I mean, it's Carolyn: Okay. Rebecca: a very fun so there's a lot of cool things going on out there. I have to I have to admit, the the internet has both been really difficult for porn and really amazing for porn in a lot of different ways. So, let's get see some cool stuff. Carolyn: Well, and I mean like social media for well, for what we do anyway, that's a whole other show. But you know, at the same time that like internet porn is growing exponentially, you can't say the word clitoris on Instagram, you know? It's just it's so ridiculous. Rebecca: It's a body part. God damn it. I mean, for crying out loud, if you could say earlobe, you should be able to say clitoris. god. I I'm Carolyn: You'd think. Yeah, it's Rebecca: this stuff, I swear to God, that's a whole nother episode. Into yeah. yeah. Mm. Carolyn: I know. TikTok is even worse. Like the entire thing is just so frustrating. Cause like I do online education. I do videos on social media all the time. And actually I just got an email yesterday from my marketing person saying, You've been slipping and you've been using the real words, you know, maybe we need to roll that back because I'll say P for penis and V for vagina or like inside and outside or C for Rebecca: U Carolyn: clitoris. Like I'm always doing some kind of like hand signals, right? To try and Rebecca: Why C E Carolyn: Y C A Rebecca: All right, so good talk. This is fun. Carolyn: This was nice. I think I think we got something here. It it's almost like we know each other really well. I don't know. Rebecca: I don't know. So strange. Well, this is a as a first episode, I think we should we could put this out there. I hope everybody else enjoys our musings. So we did say that we would no. We definitely, Carolyn: We've barely scratched the surface, too. I gotta say, like, we we got the stories on this industry. Rebecca: definitely have hours of content. Same time. so we did say that we would talk about the so this is This is what I'm doing lately, because I'm I'm going through menopause. Carolyn's going through menopause. We're both we're both fully in it. So my thing of the moment that I really am doing and is helping out amazingly is in the mornings I make myself chia seeds and flax seed. And I have that for breakfast with some soy milk and a little bit of agave, some blueberries, and that has radically changed my life. Honestly. Yeah. Carolyn: Yeah, so f it's funny. So speaking of breakfast, like mine is I do a smoothie and there's a protein powder that I really like. It's Rebecca: Hmm. Carolyn: Canadian, it's called Good Protein, and they have all these like funky flavors. But it's I'm not vegan, but it's a vegan protein. But I've been putting kefir in it. Kafir, kef how do you say it? Kefir, kefir? I've heard both. Rebecca: Kef I think it's kefir 'cause I think so. Mm-hmm. It is. It's great stuff. And it tastes good too. Mm-hmm. Carolyn: And it's like it's really good for your digestion. Right? You get all that lactobacilli or whatever going on. And so like putting that in a smoothie, but also getting like a massive hit of protein. I put a little bit of coconut Rebecca: Protein. Carolyn: water and then water to get like massive hydration, protein, and like good gut bacteria going on first thing in the morning. It rocks. It is. Rebecca: That sounds delicious. When you send me the chips, would you please send me some protein powder? I will I'll wire you Carolyn: Yeah, just Rebecca: some money. Carolyn: just tell me what flavor you want. I'll send you the website again Rebecca: I'll go on the site and I'll check it up. Carolyn: you can see 'cause now they have pina colada and all kinds of stuff. Let's do this again sometime. Rebecca: That was a lot of fun. We really had a lot to say and I think that you know, it's still an untapped fountain of of content. 'Cause I s Carolyn: You know, all we have to do is find our menopausal vibrator loving political moms who like chips. And I think we're golden, right? Rebecca: Completely. Exactly. And you want to hear a little bit about porn and a little bit about sex toys and a little bit about Canada, a little bit about America. I mean, yes, I think that definitely and who like junk food. I mean, we can we we got our people out there. I know we do. If there are people out there Carolyn: That is Rebecca: to see two Princess Leyas going at it, there are people for us. So I let's let's finish up. We wanted to talk about somebody that we would like to nominate for sainthood. Just, you know, those everyday saints, but also those people who are just amazing. And since today in New York City, it is officially Dolly Day in honor of Dolly Parton. Carolyn: It's nine two five, right? That's the yeah. Rebecca: Nine two five exactly. since this is Dolly Day, I would like to nominate Dolly Parton for Saint Hood. I was so sad that she died. What woman. What a woman. Carolyn: actually at a trade show when we heard and then everybody started texting me and I had the unfortunate you know I told somebody that I just found out that I was at a booth with and they started crying. Rebecca: listen, I have to be honest. I fully teared up. I fully teared up. She is Carolyn: Yep. Yeah, I know. Rebecca: very important. remains important, will always be important. So I would like to nominate Dolly Parton for Saint Hood. Saint Dolly. Carolyn: Saint Dolly, for sure. Agreed. Rebecca: Yep. Saint Dolly of the many colored coat. Do you know that song? It's such a good song. Carolyn: Yeah. Rebecca: I don't know. I always loved her because I was we were really poor when I was growing up and and she never ever tried to hide the fact that she was really poor growing up. And Carolyn: Yeah. Rebecca: I and as a child that really like touched me. You know what I mean? Yeah. Carolyn: Yeah. And you know, like my parents listened to a lot of country music. Country music was huge Rebecca: Mm-hmm. Carolyn: in the seventies, it seemed, and it was just kind of it was always th her music and all these other like Johnny Cash and people like that. Like that's what I grew up with. Rebecca: Love Johnny Cash. Love Willie Nelson. Love I mean the Linda Ronstadt. I mean, honestly, you don't have to be I mean, I am from Texas, okay? But you don't have to be a Texan to go back. It there's a lot there to appreciate. You Carolyn: Yeah. Rebecca: just gotta go find it. I mean, yeah, of course there's a lot of crap too, but there's a lot of crap in every genre. I mean, like honestly, but just Johnny Cash, if you wanna just start with Johnny Cash, there's stuff there. His lyrics are like Carolyn: Amazing. Rebecca: Please the Man was a gangster. I mean like goddamn So anyway and Willie Nelson, he's another saint. I love Willie Nelson. Carolyn: Take that out of your mouth because we're doing that for the dearly departed. So don't Rebecca: Sorry. Don't don't die, Willie! Don't die. Carolyn: Hang on! Rebecca: Hang on. my god. Grab him by his little braids and keep him in the in the living world. All right. Well, I guess this is where we sign off. This is the show. Carolyn: There we go. We're gonna say goodbye. We'll be back. And if you have anything that you'd like to know about or tackle, have us tackle or we'll just or Rebecca: yeah. Carolyn: if not, we will just keep talking shit and you get to listen to us. Rebecca: Completely. So get yourself a bag of chips and join us for next time on talk shit and eat chips with Rebecca Carolyn: There you go. Rebecca: and Caroline. Bye. You've been listening to Talk Shit and Eat Chips with Carolyn Eagle and Rebecca Pennett. Edited and produced by the amazing Julia Boo. Music by The Mercy Ray. Please like and follow or leave us a review wherever it is you get your podcasts.