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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Can The USMNT Win the World Cup? · Mac & Bone Podcast

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, Owen's Mack and Bow on your radio. Baby.
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Speaker 2: Bone, what's up the fun?
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Speaker 1: I can't go to work without listening to Mack and
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Speaker 4: Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ eight o'clocker is welcome
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Speaker 4: aboard for better or worse. We're only halfway done, baby,
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Speaker 4: we got two more hours of this thing to go.
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Speaker 4: There will be more talk about the US men's national team.
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Speaker 5: What a win?
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Speaker 4: What a night Country Road's blaring after the game. They're
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Speaker 4: through to the round of sixteen? Can they win it though?
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Speaker 4: Without flow Balligan? Can they win it without him after
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Speaker 4: the red card? And how far can they go? And
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Speaker 4: Bony do I have to change my mind? We have
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Speaker 4: my stance. As much as I love this team, we
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Speaker 4: have zero percent chance to win it all. I am
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Speaker 4: being uh. I have am being told that it's time
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Speaker 4: to not be gutless and to change that stance.
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Speaker 2: I do think though, and we'll talk about it later.
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Speaker 2: Before we got to get a day in here. But
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Speaker 2: there are three major problems in the way though that
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Speaker 2: we need to focus on.
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Speaker 5: Why they could be in trouble here eventually.
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Speaker 4: No oh Bone, Okay, So now are you gonna be
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Speaker 4: the gutless negative guy today.
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Speaker 2: It's not impossible. It's a tournament, but there are some
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Speaker 2: things in the path here that I just don't know.
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Speaker 2: If you don't, you don't.
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Speaker 4: So we can't just play Bosny, Australia and Paraguay all tournament.
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Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about the other form of football though. Man,
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Speaker 4: we are counting down the days to college football Saturdays,
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Speaker 4: and our next guest lives for him too. He is
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Speaker 4: Dan Rubinstein of the Solid Verbal Podcast, Great College Football Podcast,
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Speaker 4: and he joins us here on the mac Inbone Show.
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Speaker 4: Hey Dan, what's going on, man? How you doing?
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Speaker 3: I'm ready to talk US national team if you guys.
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Speaker 3: I felt more like a college football fan in the
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Speaker 3: offseason when Malik Tillman hit that free kick and I
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Speaker 3: jumped off my couch and what I yelled. It's not
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Speaker 3: only appropriate for the not appropriate for the radio. I
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Speaker 3: don't think it's appropriate for anybody in play company. Because
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Speaker 3: it's after the red card and you know you're you're
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Speaker 3: sort of feeling it about the referee. You're just like
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Speaker 3: something guttural came the demons came flying out.
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Speaker 5: It was it was huge.
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Speaker 2: I thought to myself that I can't wait to hear
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Speaker 2: the Fine Bomb Show on Monday after that.
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Speaker 5: Oh that's right, different sport, there you go.
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Speaker 4: Even even Peter Burns hosting Fine Bomb yesterday gave a
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Speaker 4: Belgium Senegal update. Even a Fine Bomb audience has soccer fever, baby,
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Speaker 4: all right, so let's talk about it. We definitely are
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Speaker 4: having fun with the World Cup as we wait for
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Speaker 4: college football. But we still can't wait for college football.
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Speaker 4: So let's let's talk about it here, and we want
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Speaker 4: to I want to discuss the very top of Like
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Speaker 4: if you were to do preseason rankings, where would you
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Speaker 4: go at the very top. It feels, I don't know,
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Speaker 4: feels like it's going to be competitive as all hell
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Speaker 4: at the top again, like it's been here in the
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Speaker 4: nil era. Do you have a definitive top team going
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Speaker 4: into it or no?
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Speaker 1: No, I don't think I do.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's certain teams you're gonna give the benefit
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Speaker 3: of the doubt based on what they return at quarterback
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Speaker 3: and where their depths is. Obviously in the Portal era
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Speaker 3: and in the nil era, it's just hard to build depth.
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Speaker 3: So you got to give benefit of the doubt more
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Speaker 3: than anything. So yeah, I have you know, Ohio State,
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Speaker 3: I have Texas, I have Oregon. Notre Dame obviously has
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Speaker 3: built up like a crazy defense these past couple of seasons,
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Speaker 3: and Texas obviously at the same time, you know they
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Speaker 3: have questions and you want to see the high level pop,
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Speaker 3: especially at offense with some of those new players, with
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Speaker 3: cam Coleman and those two new running backs, and if
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Speaker 3: they can figure out offensive line. But no, I don't
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Speaker 3: have an ability just because only anybody has the ability
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Speaker 3: to be super confident when so many players are moving
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Speaker 3: around so often. But yeah, that top grouping I think
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Speaker 3: is pretty locked in for me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dan, we have so many local teams to talk
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Speaker 2: about it. In most of them around here, it's not
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Speaker 2: trending in the right direction. That includes Clemson the last
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Speaker 2: couple of years. Do you think this year that that
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Speaker 2: continues of Clemson's trek down more or do you think
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Speaker 2: they stabilize themselves. What's your expectation for what we may
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Speaker 2: see from the Clemson Tigers here at twenty six.
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Speaker 3: I think they should be better consistently than where they
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Speaker 3: were last year.
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Speaker 1: Obviously with close losses.
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Speaker 3: The problem with Clemson is just you don't get the
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Speaker 3: sense that they're doing anything dramatic to grow and improve
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Speaker 3: and come into the modern era. And not even talking
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Speaker 3: about the portal stuff. You look at their offense and
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Speaker 3: it just kind of feels like a slower version of
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Speaker 3: where their offense was in the late twenty teams. And
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Speaker 3: so there's always going to be high talent as long
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Speaker 3: as Davo's there, but you don't get the sense with
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Speaker 3: some of the coaching hires, and they just sort of
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Speaker 3: hire former Clemson players, and after Brent Venables left, just
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Speaker 3: looking inward and hiring a defensive coordinator that had experience
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Speaker 3: only really within Clemson as a sort of graduate assistant.
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Speaker 3: I think they're going to be good this year. I
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Speaker 3: just think we're settling into Clemson as an eight and four,
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Speaker 3: nine and three type program. And it's hard to imagine,
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Speaker 3: especially on offense right now, that the running game has
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Speaker 3: sort of stagnated, that even with NFL level guys up
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Speaker 3: front on defense, that they're not just able to get
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Speaker 3: off the field often enough. And so I just think
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Speaker 3: that's where we are with Clemson in the ACC and
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Speaker 3: in this era. For better or worse. You kind of
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Speaker 3: have to be ruthless with how you build your roster,
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Speaker 3: and I just don't think Clemson has that in their DNA,
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Speaker 3: at least anymore happy to be proven wrong. But it
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Speaker 3: does seem like they're going to be in the conversation
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Speaker 3: maybe in early November, but they don't really have that
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Speaker 3: that ultimate next year.
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Speaker 4: Dan Rubinstein is with us from the Solid Verbal podcast,
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Speaker 4: Great College Football Podcast. At North Carolina. This is another
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Speaker 4: coach obviously no secret here that has a bit in
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Speaker 4: battle right in Bill Belichick. Do you have do you
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Speaker 4: feel like, because I like to be optimistic for our
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Speaker 4: teams here in the Carolina as if I can, I'm
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Speaker 4: just having a hard time Dan conjuring up any optimism
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Speaker 4: for North Carolina under Belichick. Do you feel like, hey,
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Speaker 4: give them time he and Lombardi can figure this college
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Speaker 4: football thing out or or do you not have any
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Speaker 4: of those feelings?
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Speaker 1: I want to have those, honest, if that makes any sense.
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Speaker 3: There's just there's so much in terms of roster construction
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Speaker 3: and staying ahead and knowing you know what your plan is,
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Speaker 3: what your vision is for both recruiting and portal, and
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Speaker 3: the stories coming out that they were always sort of
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Speaker 3: behind or going after kids that weren't necessarily of the
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Speaker 3: UNC level. And then you couple that with a schedule
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Speaker 3: that includes Notre Dame and TCU and Miami, and you know,
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Speaker 3: Virginia was in the championship game last season. There's you know,
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Speaker 3: a pitt generally has a pretty high floor. And you
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Speaker 3: look at North Carolina the way the roster is constructed,
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Speaker 3: you said yourself, Okay, what are they going to do well?
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Speaker 3: Obviously the defense came through more often than not second
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Speaker 3: half of the season last year, but they lose a
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Speaker 3: bunch on defense. I still think there's reason to be
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Speaker 3: optimistic that they can figure out who they are defensively
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Speaker 3: by you know, late September early October. But at that
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Speaker 3: same time that you need to score points. Billy Edwards
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Speaker 3: has above me and Bobby Patrino does nothing but put
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Speaker 3: together really interesting offenses. But you need players, You need players,
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Speaker 3: and it's just it's hard, Like I like Jordan's Ship,
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Speaker 3: but do you see Jordan's ship being putting like the
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Speaker 3: fear of Life into the Miami secondary or what Virginia
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Speaker 3: should be able to do on defense this year, especially
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Speaker 3: with inconsistent passing, a line that we have no idea
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Speaker 3: about and so I think there's a there's a possibility
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Speaker 3: that North Carolina can win games in weird and interesting
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Speaker 3: ways on defense next year. But nine games ten like that,
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Speaker 3: I think he's just asking a little bit too much
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Speaker 3: with the schedule and figuring out where the points are
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Speaker 3: coming from.
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Speaker 2: Dan no doubt huge year for Shane Beemer and his
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Speaker 2: future in Colombia. I love Shane. By the pressures on
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Speaker 2: what kind of year are you expecting from the game
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Speaker 2: cont it feels like opinions are all over the place
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Speaker 2: on what this team may look like.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I expect them to be fun. I expect them
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Speaker 3: to be competitive. Right when you're starting with the offensive
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Speaker 3: line questions that they have, you know, you know what
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Speaker 3: Leonora Sellers can be on offense. You know that he
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Speaker 3: can be a game changer. We you know, jokingly but
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Speaker 3: not that jokingly, call him the creator because out of
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Speaker 3: sin air he's able to make things happen. But with
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Speaker 3: what they now lose in the portal, what they lose
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Speaker 3: injury up front, I think they're going to be interesting
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Speaker 3: and good. The schedule is not horrible early right Kent
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Speaker 3: State Towson, Mississippi State at home. You know, Bama's at
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Speaker 3: a new quarterback, Kentucky's gotten new everything, Florida's gotten new everything,
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Speaker 3: Tennessee is dealing with a lot new There's a lot
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Speaker 3: of questions on this schedule in terms of their opponents,
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Speaker 3: But I at the same time have those same questions
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Speaker 3: right now with South Carolina, like how much can you
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Speaker 3: do with that offensive line? Can you get to thirty
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Speaker 3: points as often as you need to? And I just
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Speaker 3: I don't see the obvious answers right now. When I
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Speaker 3: mentioned some of those teams. The Alabama defense should be good,
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Speaker 3: the Oklahoma defense should be excellent, Texas A and M
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Speaker 3: should be very good, and Georgia and Clemson to finish
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Speaker 3: out the year. It's not ideal. So I think they're
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Speaker 3: going to be competitive. I think they're going to be fun,
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Speaker 3: but I sort of think asking for eight nine wins
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Speaker 3: is probably the absolute ceiling for a team like this.
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Speaker 4: Do you feel Dan like the ACC, is it Miami
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Speaker 4: or Bus as far as far as national title chances go?
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Speaker 4: I mean you and do you view them? I think
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Speaker 4: you view them as a serious title contender? But is
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Speaker 4: there anybody else joining them?
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Speaker 3: They're the only team built like them in the ACC
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Speaker 3: right now, and that's the issue when you talk about
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Speaker 3: national title.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're going undefeated.
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Speaker 3: They have obviously Notre Dame on their schedule, who's only
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Speaker 3: just sort of vaguely ACC. But otherwise, when you look
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Speaker 3: at the teams that have interesting quarterbacks or an interesting defense,
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Speaker 3: they generally don't have both. And SMU has an interesting quarterback.
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Speaker 3: But there's a lot new on this defense and the
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Speaker 3: replacment both full time coordinators. I like elements of a
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Speaker 3: lot of these teams. I like them to the point
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Speaker 3: where maybe they can pull an upset over Miami. But
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Speaker 3: if you're asking me to go through playoff games and
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Speaker 3: neutral sites against teams built like Ohio State, Oregon, Texas,
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Speaker 3: take your pick, then I'm positive ACC.
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Speaker 1: Is Miami or bust. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And I just hope as someone, as someone rooting for
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Speaker 4: the conference, I'm hoping it's not that for the foreseeable future.
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Speaker 4: I do fear that maybe it will be, although I
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Speaker 4: do the one thing, the one team I point to
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Speaker 4: is Virginia Tech under James Franklin. Am I how do
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Speaker 4: you feel about that? His ability over the next few years,
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Speaker 4: his recruiting ability, the passion that's been generated, the money
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Speaker 4: that's been generated down there since he's been hired. Could
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Speaker 4: you see him have them in the title mix or
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Speaker 4: is that a little too much?
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Speaker 1: Absolutely? Could?
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Speaker 3: I think it takes time. It takes less time than
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Speaker 3: ever right now. But Virginia Tech is investing. James Franklin
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Speaker 3: has been a Final four College Football Playoffs head coach.
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Speaker 1: He's been in huge games.
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Speaker 3: I know he has a reputation for not necessarily coming
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Speaker 3: through all the time in those games. But when you
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Speaker 3: can build a roster like he was able to do
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Speaker 3: at Penn State, and but I think Virginia Tech is
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Speaker 3: in the middle of putting together it's like clear best
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Speaker 3: recruiting class ever. And so in the portal era, in
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Speaker 3: the nil era, never say never with literally anyone after
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Speaker 3: an Indiana National championship, but especially anyone with a proven
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Speaker 3: coach and somebody who can recruit and build that roster.
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Speaker 3: Virginia Tech has the home field advantage. Virginia Tech has
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Speaker 3: the opportunity because there is, like we've been talking about,
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Speaker 3: there's a vacuum in the conference that Miami is the
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Speaker 3: only team that has built a roster comparable to Miami's
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Speaker 3: and so what Virginia Tech can do, given where it is,
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Speaker 3: given the coaches connections along the Eastern Seaboard, they can
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Speaker 3: build an ACC championship roster.
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Speaker 1: Can it be? Can it compete with the best of
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Speaker 1: the nation.
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Speaker 3: It's college football. Weird stuff happens. I'll never say never.
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Speaker 3: I think they have the best, like three to five
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Speaker 3: year plan to get to a place that. Yeah, don't
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Speaker 3: I don't you know when you look around the conference,
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Speaker 3: the coaches, the track record of roster building, I think
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Speaker 3: they could stand in rare air in the conference.
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Speaker 5: Thank you, Dan. We appreciate you.
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Speaker 4: That's a lot of that is I will say he
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Speaker 4: brought up Patrina. We when we talk heels fit dog,
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Speaker 4: we do have to start talking about Bobby Patrino. I
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Speaker 4: do think if you're looking for things to be hopeful
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Speaker 4: for that Belichick and company can have that defense. Belichick
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Speaker 4: and Little Belichick can have the defense maybe playing like
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Speaker 4: they did at the end of the year last year
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Speaker 4: or close to it. And Bobby Patrino, I do think
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Speaker 4: is very special offensively. But then the question comes back
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Speaker 4: to their personnel fitty the quarterback too, like is there
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Speaker 4: a quarterback you believe in?
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Speaker 6: That's that's gonna be the thing, right because I think
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Speaker 6: they've got enough pieces in the backfield, in that wide
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Speaker 6: receiver room where if you get better quarterback play than
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Speaker 6: g Lopez, and that's that's a very low bar because
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Speaker 6: of how bad he was. I think they can be
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Speaker 6: one more fun to watch and two more competitive in
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Speaker 6: some of these ACC games. I still don't know if
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Speaker 6: they can get to a bowl game, and I should
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Speaker 6: not feel that way as a UNC fan that has
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Speaker 6: Bill Belichick as his head coach.
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Speaker 5: Well, that's how I feel entering near two.
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Speaker 6: But if if Petrino is what he's always but you
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Speaker 6: know that, you know that offense more than likely will
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Speaker 6: put up points and yards weekend weekend.
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Speaker 4: He's gonna rev up the offense and the motorcycle baby
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Speaker 4: in Chapel Hill. Oh line too fitty, I would I
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Speaker 4: would ask about to you know, how good will the
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Speaker 4: old live be? But man, we got a ton of
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Speaker 4: college football start talking about here?
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Speaker 2: Man, interesting note here while he brought up Virginia in there,
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Speaker 2: we know that that opening game had Did they ever
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Speaker 2: change the date of that game? By the way, Virginia
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Speaker 2: State or that's still on week zero?
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Speaker 5: Do we know that?
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Speaker 3: Remember?
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Speaker 5: I think it's what they're talking about me. Are they gonna?
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Speaker 4: I had heard one way or the other, But I
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Speaker 4: think maybe that means it's staying.
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Speaker 2: Do you know that because it moved to Charlottesville, Virginia?
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Speaker 2: From what I read? Anyway, now five and a half
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Speaker 2: point favorites to open the game.
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Speaker 4: I I, uh, what do you think about Zach and Miami?
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Speaker 4: The NC State fan who has guaranteed that they will
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Speaker 4: go unbeaten this season.
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Speaker 2: That's why I looked up the first game against Virginia
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Speaker 2: and their underdogs.
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Speaker 5: They they're gonna Virginia was good last year.
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Speaker 2: They could We don't talk a lot about Virginia, but
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Speaker 2: you know, he might have that thing going in the
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Speaker 2: right direction. Now, Yeah, they lost Pig got both. They
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Speaker 2: got Perbuel now as our quarterback.
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Speaker 4: Right yeah, I'm not in love with Berbuel as a
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Speaker 4: starting quarterback, you know what I mean? But they've got
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Speaker 4: I think multiple quarterback options there. Elliott did a great
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Speaker 4: job last year, but they lost a lot. But then again, Bone,
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Speaker 4: everybody lost. It's not you Is it even worth saying
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Speaker 4: that so and so lost alive? It's about what did
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Speaker 4: you bring in to replace or what did you have
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Speaker 4: there in addition to what you lost.
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Speaker 2: They know your guy Holstein from Pittsburgh who actually, yes,
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Speaker 2: is he He might be the cool I don't know
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Speaker 2: a lot better than Pribua. I would probably favor him
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Speaker 2: in the quarterback battle.
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Speaker 5: But that can be good. Could that could be a
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Speaker 5: good summer camp battle right there.
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Speaker 2: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone
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Speaker 2: radio program on this Thursday.
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Speaker 5: What are we doing next? All right, Usa, baby, on
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Speaker 5: the wrong time, and I got her.
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, we're gonna talk about about who
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Speaker 2: should be the goalie in Goalie Wars, But that was
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Speaker 2: the last segment.
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Speaker 5: We come back.
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Speaker 2: The US advanced again in the World Cup, but it
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Speaker 2: came at a cost. Can we beat Belgium now without
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Speaker 2: one of our best players? And will negative Mac finally
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Speaker 2: acknowledge this team can win at all? Zi on Sports
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Speaker 2: Radio ninety two seven WFNZ Almost Heaven, West Virginia, Blue
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Speaker 2: Ridge Mountains, Channon, the river.
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Speaker 5: Life is old, older.
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Speaker 4: Than the trees, younger than the mountains, grow in lack breeze.
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Speaker 5: Country Roads. Take me home.
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Speaker 6: To the place, hobby Line, West Virginia, Mountain, Mama.
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Speaker 3: Take me.
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Speaker 5: Country Road?
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Speaker 1: White?
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Speaker 4: Nosse alright, white, nosse alright? What I thought it's gonna
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Speaker 4: sound better? They did, all right, But that country road
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Speaker 4: sounds beautiful, Baby, that sounds beautiful. And that's Potchettino with
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Speaker 4: his with his mantra for this team. Why not us?
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Speaker 4: Why can't we win the whole damn thing. I'm not
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Speaker 4: gonna lie to you, Bone, I got goosebumps just here
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Speaker 4: in Country Roads. What that song has become for this
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Speaker 4: team and its fan base, the way it blairs after
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Speaker 4: matches and the players are singing along with the fans.
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Speaker 4: Pochettino himself from Oh Yeah, mister Argentina. But now is
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Speaker 4: being Americanized so much? To the man is belting out
18:30
Speaker 4: Country Roads after every game. It was beautiful scenes in
18:34
Speaker 4: the Bay Area last night after the US wins to nil.
18:37
Speaker 4: I'll say it for fitty this time to nil to
18:39
Speaker 4: advance to the round of six nis.
18:42
Speaker 5: It's such a great song.
18:43
Speaker 2: It makes people want to go to West Virginia until
18:45
Speaker 2: they get to West Virgio and they say, oh, maybe, uh,
18:48
Speaker 2: maybe the song is better than the actual Tremont Country Roads.
18:50
Speaker 2: Oh my lord, bone, I've got ties there, my dad way,
18:55
Speaker 2: my dad went to college there. It's all a part
18:58
Speaker 2: of the family, all right.
18:59
Speaker 5: Are we supposed to together in America?
19:01
Speaker 2: You get to the state's one team, you're gonna go
19:03
Speaker 2: to West Virginia anytime soon, taking those country roads.
19:05
Speaker 5: I like the country roads through West Virginia.
19:07
Speaker 2: I've turvened through there a lot to get up to
19:09
Speaker 2: you going there next year when you're sadly gone for
19:12
Speaker 2: a week.
19:13
Speaker 4: Huh, I'll be in the Caribbean, sir. I'll be in
19:14
Speaker 4: the Bahamas. I can't wait. By the way, Monday night,
19:20
Speaker 4: I'll be watching the Belgium US game bone on the
19:24
Speaker 4: cruise ship. I assume a bunch of people rooting for
19:27
Speaker 4: the US. I've seen kind of what the cruise ships.
19:30
Speaker 4: I got a buddy who who's on a cruise this week.
19:32
Speaker 4: They're setting up big screen TVs for the World Cup matches,
19:35
Speaker 4: especially the US matches, and I am begging that that
19:38
Speaker 4: is the setup for this cruise ship. I can't wait.
19:42
Speaker 4: That is going to be an environment. Man.
19:44
Speaker 5: If they set that up big screen on the deck, dude,
19:46
Speaker 5: until until until the TVs go out and you can't
19:49
Speaker 5: see it. We're not rooting for that by any means.
19:51
Speaker 5: By the way, oh, that would be hard.
19:53
Speaker 4: I would throw myself overboard and swim back to land
19:57
Speaker 4: and find a TV. I would because this is the
20:00
Speaker 4: US men's team.
20:02
Speaker 5: Ever.
20:02
Speaker 4: I understand some people are saying it's a low bar Mac,
20:04
Speaker 4: but it is. And I can't wait to see what
20:08
Speaker 4: they do against Belgium. And you said it, man. Belgium
20:10
Speaker 4: has this great reputation in fairness. They did beat US
20:13
Speaker 4: five to one in a friendly in March. But you
20:18
Speaker 4: look at how shaky and gettable they are. They're lucky
20:21
Speaker 4: to still be in this tournament. Bone after yesterday, I'm
20:24
Speaker 4: down two goals to Senegal with five minutes left in regulation.
20:28
Speaker 4: To their credit, they had pulled off one of the
20:30
Speaker 4: most ridiculous World Cup rallies ever. But to act like
20:33
Speaker 4: the way the US is playing, I mean, the flow
20:36
Speaker 4: baligin thing, the student, the damn annoying red card it
20:38
Speaker 4: shouldn't have been and the fact that he will miss
20:40
Speaker 4: this match is part of this, right, But you've said it.
20:45
Speaker 4: It's so obvious this Belgium team, like, we have played
20:47
Speaker 4: better soccer than them. I know they have the reputation,
20:51
Speaker 4: the players, but you were talking during to break about
20:54
Speaker 4: how these guys, their core was playing when they beat
20:57
Speaker 4: us in twenty fourteen in the knockout round in the
21:00
Speaker 4: World Cup. They're aging. It feels like They're golden generation
21:04
Speaker 4: is about done and our golden generation is just entering
21:07
Speaker 4: their primes.
21:07
Speaker 5: Man.
21:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, the two goal scorers and the keeper the same
21:11
Speaker 2: guy through twelve years ago, so you can tell that
21:13
Speaker 2: this is their their last run. Have not been impressed
21:17
Speaker 2: with them. I think the US can advance back. People
21:20
Speaker 2: are all worked up on the text line right now, Matt,
21:23
Speaker 2: Why what's happening? They're trying to tell me that Country
21:25
Speaker 2: Roads is about Western Virginia and not Western that's a.
21:29
Speaker 4: Big KB thing. I think that might be the case.
21:32
Speaker 4: KB brings this up all the time. I did some
21:34
Speaker 4: dig in here.
21:35
Speaker 5: Is it true?
21:36
Speaker 2: John Denver's take Me Home? Country Roads is officially about
21:39
Speaker 2: the state of West Virginia. Oh, but its creation was
21:42
Speaker 2: actually inspired by a drive through the rural landscapes of
21:45
Speaker 2: Western Virginia. But it's about West Virginia. So both all right?
21:50
Speaker 4: I guess yes, yeah, don't get if you want to
21:53
Speaker 4: make KB mad Bone, tell him that song's not about
21:56
Speaker 4: his his beloved state, and you'll have a problem.
21:59
Speaker 5: So I'll let you. You can, you can handle that.
22:01
Speaker 4: But anyway, it's I like what it has come to
22:04
Speaker 4: represent with this US team.
22:06
Speaker 2: It's the official state song of West Virginia, West Virginia,
22:10
Speaker 2: the state West Virginia, West.
22:12
Speaker 4: Virgin Okay, let Bailey Bailey take this up with Bone
22:15
Speaker 4: school Bone on it. I don't know the exact thing
22:17
Speaker 4: that that that that that his thing. I guess he's
22:21
Speaker 4: just saying what the Texters are saying. I gotta be honest,
22:23
Speaker 4: I really don't care which one of y'all the songs about.
22:25
Speaker 4: I like the fact that it's become the theme song
22:27
Speaker 4: along with the techno version of free Bird that they
22:30
Speaker 4: play after goals. Those are the two theme songs for
22:32
Speaker 4: this US team that I love.
22:34
Speaker 5: Bone.
22:35
Speaker 4: Is there any doubt in your mind that they are
22:37
Speaker 4: going to beat Belgium even though they don't have their
22:41
Speaker 4: goal scorer in Balligan up front? Like Pepe has some
22:45
Speaker 4: positives hold up play and stuff like that, But I
22:48
Speaker 4: don't think anybody can deny it feels like a substantial
22:50
Speaker 4: drop off from Balligan at striker to Pepe.
22:53
Speaker 5: It's striker.
22:54
Speaker 2: No, that's the that's the the pause of the matter,
22:57
Speaker 2: right is US is the better team in full? By
23:01
Speaker 2: the way, I did say two scores the war yesterday,
23:03
Speaker 2: and I just want to point out that the US
23:06
Speaker 2: one by team, even a man down every for thirty
23:09
Speaker 2: six minutes, I think they still figure out a way
23:13
Speaker 2: to get by Belgium. But then after that, I think
23:17
Speaker 2: is when the real problems start. It's the road the
23:20
Speaker 2: rest of the way, country roads back the rest of
23:23
Speaker 2: the way, get awfully tough with the games after Belgium.
23:27
Speaker 2: That's my kidside Belgium, they'll win, and then in terms
23:30
Speaker 2: of winning and winning the whole thing, there becomes a
23:33
Speaker 2: trio of problems back named Spain, France and Argentina that
23:37
Speaker 2: come up after that.
23:38
Speaker 4: Listen, I've said it since to be since before the
23:40
Speaker 4: World Cup, I've said I think they can go to
23:42
Speaker 4: the quarterfinals. They've only done it one time before, and
23:46
Speaker 4: since nineteen thirty or fifty fifty, I'm sorry, and I
23:51
Speaker 4: believe bone that they can do it.
23:54
Speaker 5: Or is it thirty? Is it nineteen thirty? What was
23:55
Speaker 5: the year we were good and we're in the semi finals?
23:57
Speaker 2: Nineteen thirty thr right, okay, yeah, Pat said that's the year.
24:01
Speaker 2: She remember she dated the striker on that nineteen thirty
24:06
Speaker 2: US World Cup teams, Burt Something.
24:09
Speaker 4: She was the big goal scorer. She was the team nurse,
24:11
Speaker 4: all right, So anyway, the team nurse. So I have
24:16
Speaker 4: targeted the quarterfinals all along. We have been talking about
24:20
Speaker 4: a potential game against Belgium in around the sixteen the
24:23
Speaker 4: whole time, although I had, she said whole time, because
24:25
Speaker 4: we thought that a while there Egypt was gonna win
24:27
Speaker 4: their group and to be them despite the four goal
24:31
Speaker 4: loss in the friendly, I think this is a completely
24:33
Speaker 4: different team that they were in March. I think Belgium
24:36
Speaker 4: is not their best self right now too, and I
24:39
Speaker 4: think even without flow balgain, I think they're gonna find
24:41
Speaker 4: a way to win this game.
24:42
Speaker 5: Then the question you pull forward Burt Patua something?
24:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, Patu nod because he's the guy that has all
24:49
Speaker 4: the goal scoring records that flows trying to beat. Yeah,
24:52
Speaker 4: like he's the all time goal scorer goal scoring correct, Yeah,
24:56
Speaker 4: Burt something.
24:57
Speaker 5: I don't know how l Burch Ran Arthur patuinod? That
25:00
Speaker 5: was great? What I'll pull by the Mac Diesel Right, that's.
25:02
Speaker 4: Granny's man right there, all right? Anyway, the whole World Cup,
25:10
Speaker 4: I made a comment bone that people don't like this.
25:12
Speaker 4: Dude says Mac is un American when he says a
25:15
Speaker 4: group of Americans can't do something. To say there's a
25:18
Speaker 4: zero percent chance of winning this World Cup is an
25:21
Speaker 4: American and annoying.
25:23
Speaker 5: Mac.
25:24
Speaker 4: You said they have a chance to win it all,
25:26
Speaker 4: and I said, sorry, I love this team, but what
25:30
Speaker 4: they will have to do is they will have to
25:32
Speaker 4: beat elite teams repetitively to win this thing.
25:37
Speaker 5: Are you now?
25:39
Speaker 4: Instead of me getting more positive and saying we have
25:42
Speaker 4: we have a chance to win it.
25:43
Speaker 5: Are you now going to zero percent? Bone?
25:46
Speaker 2: I think it would. I think it a little bit of
25:48
Speaker 2: it back it was a little bit. Yeah, you were correct,
25:51
Speaker 2: but I was. I was in the moment also way,
25:54
Speaker 2: I wasn't fully necessarily thinking about the end of the
25:58
Speaker 2: like the very very end and what k why you
26:00
Speaker 2: were saying it, but I was. I was thinking more
26:02
Speaker 2: about getting there. Could they beat Spain, That's not I
26:07
Speaker 2: don't think that's like completely insane. The one that gets
26:10
Speaker 2: me though, is it's not just Spain then it's France.
26:13
Speaker 2: And I don't know who in their right mind is
26:16
Speaker 2: being they are favorite max by so much to win
26:18
Speaker 2: this whole thing. I just don't know what team in
26:21
Speaker 2: this tournament's beating France at this point. Could that's if France.
26:24
Speaker 2: If somehow a team beat France and took them out,
26:27
Speaker 2: I don't think it's good. Then of course it's different.
26:29
Speaker 2: I just don't know how anyone's beating France right now.
26:31
Speaker 2: They're too good Man and.
26:32
Speaker 4: France they play Paraguay, then they probably play Morocco. All
26:35
Speaker 4: apologies to Canada, but as far as Spain goes, if
26:39
Speaker 4: Spain wins today against Austria. It's probably Portugal for them.
26:43
Speaker 4: They definitely gonna win that. So there are upsets. It's
26:46
Speaker 4: like the NCAA tournament. You often don't end up having
26:48
Speaker 4: to beat all the top seeds along the way, right,
26:51
Speaker 4: so you have that aspect of it.
26:53
Speaker 5: I don't know.
26:54
Speaker 4: I hate this topic and I know bone that I
26:56
Speaker 4: put this topic on the sheet.
26:59
Speaker 5: I bet your own top. I hate the.
27:00
Speaker 4: Top because I don't want to be negative about this team.
27:03
Speaker 4: Like do I think we're gonna win the World Cup? No?
27:06
Speaker 1: Do?
27:07
Speaker 5: I will say this.
27:09
Speaker 4: Do most of the analysts on Fox's Laton Dempsey, Landon
27:14
Speaker 4: Donovan do they think there's a chance. Yeah, it does
27:18
Speaker 4: sound like it. So maybe me saying zero percent, maybe
27:22
Speaker 4: that's lane that I like, Maybe I should go two
27:24
Speaker 4: percent or something like that.
27:25
Speaker 5: It just doesn't feel like we're ready for that yet.
27:28
Speaker 4: If they got all the fact we're even talking about
27:31
Speaker 4: this is an amazing accomplishment. Man.
27:33
Speaker 2: If they got all the way to France and they
27:37
Speaker 2: lost to France, that would still be an on real
27:41
Speaker 2: run if they got knocked out by them, so because
27:43
Speaker 2: that would mean they they'd beat Belgium on the path,
27:46
Speaker 2: then they beat one of the two teams Spain or
27:48
Speaker 2: probably Portugal, depending but if they got to France and
27:51
Speaker 2: lost to them, there's no that would be that would
27:54
Speaker 2: almost be like we won the thing.
27:55
Speaker 5: Right, dude.
27:56
Speaker 4: I think if they beat the I think Belgium is
27:58
Speaker 4: the game that will decide. I think the World Cup
28:02
Speaker 4: is going to be viewed in a positive light here
28:05
Speaker 4: in America, record crowds, record ratings, the feel good vibes
28:10
Speaker 4: of this team, the aesthetics of this team. Like I
28:13
Speaker 4: know in the second half bone they had to dig
28:14
Speaker 4: in and defend and they had to show we can
28:16
Speaker 4: win with grit, but some of the moments of just
28:19
Speaker 4: skill right this attack when it gets going. Like I
28:23
Speaker 4: think overall, the World Cup is going to be a success,
28:26
Speaker 4: But I think the Belgium game is important because I
28:29
Speaker 4: do think we'll feel like if we don't win that, yeah,
28:32
Speaker 4: we didn't have flow, So I think that'll be part
28:34
Speaker 4: of it. Will be pissed off at the damn refs
28:36
Speaker 4: and VR over it. But I think if they beat
28:39
Speaker 4: if they lose to Belgium, I think we'll have a
28:41
Speaker 4: feeling of damn that we're better than that team.
28:44
Speaker 2: If they get to the right the Golden State Warriors
28:47
Speaker 2: of this soccer operation.
28:48
Speaker 5: But I got the.
28:49
Speaker 4: All the younks together, man I. But if we beat
28:52
Speaker 4: Belgium and make it to the quartals court quarters, it's
28:56
Speaker 4: all gravy, dude, It's all gravy from there. And like
29:00
Speaker 4: you said, if they were to beat a Spain or
29:02
Speaker 4: a Portugal. Now the problem is bone Bosnia last night
29:06
Speaker 4: was the first win against the European team in thirteen games.
29:10
Speaker 4: It's I don't know if it's a mental thing with us. So,
29:13
Speaker 4: but if we were to beat Belgium and then, like
29:15
Speaker 4: you said, Spain, man, I don't care if France would
29:18
Speaker 4: beat us six nothing, that would be amazing. Imagine what
29:21
Speaker 4: that's gonna do for soccer in this country, which excites me.
29:24
Speaker 5: Man Oh.
29:24
Speaker 2: No, I did not realize mac until they because you know,
29:27
Speaker 2: I'm following the qualifying is a little bit, uh because
29:32
Speaker 2: a lot that goes into qualifying for the World Cup, right,
29:34
Speaker 2: it takes a while. I did not realize till that's
29:36
Speaker 2: in the broadcast that Bosnia was the reason that Italy
29:38
Speaker 2: is not involved.
29:39
Speaker 1: In this thing.
29:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did not know that.
29:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, definitely remember Italy, Matt, They used to be
29:44
Speaker 2: a soccer power and it's all remember that they got
29:48
Speaker 2: tons of talent, slightly tougher bone to qualify in Europe. Though,
29:52
Speaker 2: I will say, then some other than some other continents federations.
29:58
Speaker 2: Let's see what do we have going on here? Squirrel
30:00
Speaker 2: meat Henderson says, Mac, You're right, a bunch of Americans
30:04
Speaker 2: can't get nothing done. Look at the government this I
30:07
Speaker 2: feel like I feel like the US men's national team
30:09
Speaker 2: functions better than the government. Not always in the past,
30:13
Speaker 2: but I feel like this version does. QC Buckeye. Nobody's
30:16
Speaker 2: beating France. Ronnie says, I gotta be honest. I have
30:20
Speaker 2: no problem with Max saying we have a zero percent
30:22
Speaker 2: chance to win. I believe everybody but France has a
30:25
Speaker 2: zero percent chance to win. They look dominant, I said
30:29
Speaker 2: the other day, I take them over the field. I
30:30
Speaker 2: don't know if I would give Messi a zero percent
30:32
Speaker 2: chance to win, you know what I mean? Yeah, but
30:35
Speaker 2: like they do look on another freaking level.
30:38
Speaker 1: Man.
30:38
Speaker 4: I just like, I just love this conversation. We would
30:40
Speaker 4: never even have this conversation ever in the past.
30:43
Speaker 2: Way to describe France, it was like they're playing at
30:46
Speaker 2: different sports on time everybody else's They just they just
30:48
Speaker 2: move different.
30:49
Speaker 5: I don't know how to explain. He said yesterday they
30:51
Speaker 5: glide and they do. I can't argue with that. The
30:53
Speaker 5: ball just said like pinball. That's filthy talent on France.
30:59
Speaker 3: Man.
30:59
Speaker 5: And they're back ups.
31:00
Speaker 4: By the way, what did west he say their backups
31:02
Speaker 4: would be in the World Cup final? I mean that
31:06
Speaker 4: might be a little rich, but their backups in the
31:08
Speaker 4: final four or something like that.
31:09
Speaker 5: They are at least they are so good. And you
31:12
Speaker 5: know some guys Mac have.
31:13
Speaker 2: To work like really hard for their goals, Like you
31:16
Speaker 2: see Harry Kane like in the box bag. He it
31:19
Speaker 2: feels like he's got to really earn a lot of those.
31:21
Speaker 2: And Bope, I feel like Mack he's so smooth and
31:24
Speaker 2: they have so much talent around him. I feel like
31:26
Speaker 2: the ball just kind of naturally finds him bobbe and
31:28
Speaker 2: places to score goals. Remember that one a couple of
31:30
Speaker 2: games ago when here was a misplay by the goalie
31:32
Speaker 2: and they bought and it he gets passed right to him.
31:35
Speaker 2: I feel like if Bope is always in the spot
31:38
Speaker 2: where he makes them look so easy man when.
31:40
Speaker 4: He scores, they make it. Yeah, he does. They make
31:42
Speaker 4: it look easy as a team too, man, they really do?
31:45
Speaker 4: All right, are we going to fit? We have time
31:47
Speaker 4: for fit or no break? Break even fits? Do you
31:51
Speaker 4: know what that means?
31:51
Speaker 1: Both?
31:51
Speaker 5: It's tired of himself. He had nothing? Oh does he
31:54
Speaker 5: ever get tired of himself?
31:55
Speaker 3: No?
31:56
Speaker 2: When we come back Jake Fischer audio, Say, Jake Fischer audio,
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Speaker 2: I'm reading Gordon forred to getting back.
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Speaker 5: What's on the sheet here?
32:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna hear from Jerick urg Since the start
32:06
Speaker 2: of free agency, Jeff Peterson has been in chill mode.
32:10
Speaker 2: Should Hornets fans be annoyed? And guess what you're gonna
32:13
Speaker 2: hear from? Jake Fisher also Sports Radio ninety seven w
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Speaker 2: f n Z.
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Speaker 7: What are the Hornets plans? I mean, Charlotte has already
32:43
Speaker 7: been super active, trading Lamla lah blah, trading Miles Bridges.
32:48
Speaker 2: I don't know.
32:48
Speaker 5: I don't know how much more you want from Charlotte.
32:50
Speaker 7: I really think that the Hornets with their flexibility, uh
32:55
Speaker 7: under the tax with you know, not exactly so many
32:59
Speaker 7: pieces you know, nailed down in the furniture there. Obviously
33:03
Speaker 7: this is a conkerin Nipple Brandon Miller operation. They're very
33:06
Speaker 7: excited to have nase red in the mix. I don't
33:09
Speaker 7: necessarily think they are absolutely convinced that hein Stembach is
33:15
Speaker 7: going to be their starting center forever. But I du
33:18
Speaker 7: believe between him and Ron Kalkbrenner, the Hornets weren't exactly
33:22
Speaker 7: looking for a Mitchell Robinson type for a veteran center
33:26
Speaker 7: to come in there right now. So I still think
33:28
Speaker 7: Charlotte's open to do some type of trade business, depending
33:32
Speaker 7: on what opportunities exist for them to be compensated. You know,
33:36
Speaker 7: like if Houston's calling them about Dorian Phinney Smith, for example,
33:39
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised, But I don't really have Charlotte
33:43
Speaker 7: as like up to anything else at this juncture.
33:46
Speaker 4: My god, Jake Fisher's really got us fired up for
33:49
Speaker 4: the rest of the offseason. Yeah, maybe you'll make a
33:51
Speaker 4: Dorian Finney Smith trade.
33:53
Speaker 5: Maybe you want.
33:55
Speaker 2: I don't want doan fy Or Smith, although I yes
34:00
Speaker 2: he does got he is kind of all right.
34:01
Speaker 5: I'm just messing him.
34:02
Speaker 4: But I looked up his contract. It's like three more
34:06
Speaker 4: years than thirteen million per for is he that?
34:09
Speaker 1: Al right?
34:10
Speaker 4: Like we're trying to watch our cap room and keep
34:13
Speaker 4: our flexibility, Like why would we want that he's getting.
34:15
Speaker 5: Don't get it.
34:16
Speaker 2: He's getting paid like multiple guys. If this whole thing
34:19
Speaker 2: mac ends up here with Dorian Finney Smith, that's not
34:23
Speaker 2: that's not really what I anticipated.
34:25
Speaker 4: And the Mitchell Robinson thing that he said in there,
34:27
Speaker 4: it's Jake Fisher from Leacher Report. Mitchell Robinson had been
34:31
Speaker 4: one of the big man apple of our eyes. He's
34:33
Speaker 4: gone to Boston three year, forty seven million dollar deal.
34:37
Speaker 4: It's it's early a free agency. So I don't want
34:40
Speaker 4: to do the thing that we do at times now
34:44
Speaker 4: lately with.
34:45
Speaker 2: Like when people get mad at Dan Morgan they did
34:47
Speaker 2: sign someone in five minutes in the free agency.
34:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say with Dan less because Dan's pretty
34:51
Speaker 4: aggressive right away in free agency.
34:52
Speaker 5: Although I think you're right.
34:53
Speaker 4: I think it took him like a few hours.
34:58
Speaker 5: Is a napping whe Morgan? Where's that?
35:02
Speaker 1: So?
35:02
Speaker 4: I don't want to act like that. I don't want
35:03
Speaker 4: to bring that energy here bone right. But a lot
35:06
Speaker 4: of Hornets fans are looking around saying, we get rid
35:09
Speaker 4: of our best player. You do add assets, you do
35:13
Speaker 4: re sign Kobe. I like nas reed, but are you
35:16
Speaker 4: going to try to add to this team at all?
35:18
Speaker 4: Or are you like cool with this being the team,
35:20
Speaker 4: are you, like, are yours?
35:22
Speaker 2: There going to be a trade deadline day? But that's
35:24
Speaker 2: so that's such an unknown though of like what teams
35:27
Speaker 2: may do. I kind of wanted someone to establish when
35:31
Speaker 2: we got into the season because the other thing too back,
35:35
Speaker 2: is this the trade deadline with that ship they have
35:38
Speaker 2: to use within the next year, right if they're not,
35:43
Speaker 2: if they're if they take a step back in any way,
35:45
Speaker 2: are they are they still buying? Are they buy or
35:48
Speaker 2: is it the deadline to use that or would they
35:50
Speaker 2: are they trying?
35:51
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm very confused right now. Some things
35:53
Speaker 5: go on.
35:53
Speaker 4: I go back to what with the trade exception, Like
35:55
Speaker 4: we're all excited about it. Who's to say it's not
35:58
Speaker 4: what James plow Right, No one Patterson said last week
36:01
Speaker 4: that they don't use it at some point to take
36:03
Speaker 4: on a bad contract and just get more draft assets.
36:07
Speaker 2: Someone to Paul George might be the guy they took
36:09
Speaker 2: on just to get it, and then.
36:11
Speaker 4: Instead Boston did that for a freaking m VP candidate.
36:14
Speaker 4: I don't know what the hell that was. I don't
36:15
Speaker 4: know what the hell kind of deal that they're about.
36:17
Speaker 4: Is they're more miserable in Boston than we are Bone
36:20
Speaker 4: over the Lamellow trade over that Jalen Brown trade. Both
36:24
Speaker 4: Bone sees donuts outside and he is fully distracted right now.
36:27
Speaker 5: It's the Knights. They have donuts city.
36:31
Speaker 2: Well you went to home run right there, Fitty boy,
36:33
Speaker 2: come here, boy, we got donuts outside.
36:34
Speaker 5: Boy go How is Fitty not moved for the donuts?
36:39
Speaker 4: Man? Oh god? Uh yeah, Charlotte Knights. We've always loved.
36:43
Speaker 4: We love the Charlotte Knights. But I believe the love
36:45
Speaker 4: is going up now. I believe the love is going up. Anyway,
36:48
Speaker 4: we'll keep talking. Pitty is not moving for.
36:52
Speaker 5: Can you pick up these donuts at the door if
36:54
Speaker 5: you don't mind? He's Oh my god, he's mad.
36:59
Speaker 2: It's this is I never this is the most exercise
37:01
Speaker 2: he's gotten in daze.
37:02
Speaker 4: Who would have ever thought it would be this hard
37:05
Speaker 4: to get over? Dude, Flounder would have sprinted there like
37:09
Speaker 4: he's you saying Bolton.
37:11
Speaker 2: The people are at the door saying can we please
37:13
Speaker 2: drop these off?
37:13
Speaker 5: Fiddy's upset. I want to give you a free donuts.
37:15
Speaker 5: Fitty's like if I have so? All right?
37:17
Speaker 4: Anyway, so let me just say this, like I guess
37:21
Speaker 4: what say thank you Finny. I guess what we're looking
37:25
Speaker 4: for is a vibe check of Hornets fans. Like a
37:28
Speaker 4: lot happened last week, it appears right now, not a
37:31
Speaker 4: lot's happening. It appears Jeff Peterson not in a hurry.
37:33
Speaker 4: It don't mean he's not going to do anything else,
37:36
Speaker 4: but what are the vibes out there? I'm going to
37:39
Speaker 4: tell you how I'm starting to feel as a Hornets fan.
37:42
Speaker 4: I'm starting to feel a little sad as a Hornets fan.
37:46
Speaker 4: I understand what Jeff Peterson is doing. I think there's
37:49
Speaker 4: a very good chance Bone that it pays off big
37:51
Speaker 4: time down the road. But I am being hit right
37:54
Speaker 4: now with a real dose of reality that what happened
37:57
Speaker 4: in the second half of the year last year, that
37:59
Speaker 4: was so much much fun, that that basically meant nothing
38:03
Speaker 4: to our front office, and that all that is going
38:06
Speaker 4: to serve as Bone in the short term is just
38:09
Speaker 4: a giant tease that made us think with that fun,
38:13
Speaker 4: things were coming. And I don't think anything fund's coming.
38:17
Speaker 4: I think the East is loaded this year, and I
38:20
Speaker 4: honestly don't. I have a hard time believing we're going
38:23
Speaker 4: to be better than playing this year. And again, maybe
38:26
Speaker 4: the way Jeff Peterson is doing this will prove to
38:28
Speaker 4: be best for the long term, and that's the most important, right, Yes,
38:33
Speaker 4: But I don't know how you feel. But I kind
38:36
Speaker 4: of had this bounce about my will did had this
38:39
Speaker 4: bounce in my hornet step for the first time in
38:42
Speaker 4: a long time, and it has been snatched away, like
38:46
Speaker 4: for the time being. Yeah, but I mean it's still
38:49
Speaker 4: not anywhere near as bad as it used to be.
38:51
Speaker 4: Trust me, it's this is not going back into the darkness.
38:55
Speaker 4: It may not be quite what it was last year,
38:57
Speaker 4: like forty wins like does that? Like that doesn't that's
39:00
Speaker 4: not a buzzkill for you after last year?
39:02
Speaker 2: From where from where we've been before, though, I still
39:05
Speaker 2: trust that this team is still moving in the right direction.
39:08
Speaker 2: I think there's too much talent there. There's too many
39:10
Speaker 2: smart people involved now. So is it a little disconcerting
39:15
Speaker 2: about what's going on? Of course it is, But I
39:17
Speaker 2: still think there's a lot to be excited about with
39:19
Speaker 2: this team. I mean, just the nucleus of con and
39:23
Speaker 2: Miller and then I've always looked I said it when
39:26
Speaker 2: he got drafted, or excuse me, when he got dell. Here,
39:29
Speaker 2: I still believe this I am a huge fan of
39:32
Speaker 2: Kobe White. I still think there's another level that he
39:34
Speaker 2: can get to. He's not mellow in terms of maybe
39:38
Speaker 2: the entertainment value in the full statue, but I believe
39:41
Speaker 2: in that dude as the lead guard maybe more than
39:45
Speaker 2: some do. So I still think Kobe White it's going
39:47
Speaker 2: to be a major, major, major pizza this puzzle.
39:50
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm sitting here telling you bone the people that
39:53
Speaker 4: say we're gonna win twenty twenty five games, I think
39:55
Speaker 4: you're crazy. I don't think they're like, I don't think
39:57
Speaker 4: it's near that bad. But like, if you don't feel
40:00
Speaker 4: any of this as a Hornets fan, what I'm saying
40:02
Speaker 4: right now, like I'm acknowledging everything you're saying, I am
40:06
Speaker 4: saying it too. Jeff Peterson could end up being the
40:09
Speaker 4: shrewdest dude we've ever had here. But if you don't
40:12
Speaker 4: feel any bit of a letdown, Like, shoot, we just
40:17
Speaker 4: had this amazing second half where we perfect. No, we
40:19
Speaker 4: got beat up by Orlando, but I think all of
40:23
Speaker 4: us thought they were going to try to build off that,
40:26
Speaker 4: and it appears that they are willing to take a
40:28
Speaker 4: step back in order to take steps forward. I just
40:33
Speaker 4: if every Hornets fan doesn't feel a little bit of
40:36
Speaker 4: what I'm describing right now, I don't understand how because
40:42
Speaker 4: the patience is a hard thing to sell to Hornets fans,
40:45
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Even if it's the right
40:48
Speaker 4: thing to do, it's not going to sit completely well
40:51
Speaker 4: with Hornets fans because we've been asked for patients bone
40:54
Speaker 4: for you know, over a decade. I don't think what
40:58
Speaker 4: doesn't help in this time period is it's league rules
41:01
Speaker 4: where those involved can't talk. Not that Peterson's going to
41:05
Speaker 4: lay out the entire plan, but fans and media likes
41:09
Speaker 4: to hear reactions and reasons why that they give. So
41:14
Speaker 4: the fact that he makes these moves Mack and then
41:16
Speaker 4: people in the league can't talk till July sixth, next week,
41:19
Speaker 4: there's now, you know, a week or two between the moves,
41:23
Speaker 4: and people want answers. They want to know what is
41:26
Speaker 4: the vision.
41:26
Speaker 2: And when these guys can't talk for a long period
41:28
Speaker 2: of time, it's like on draft nights, MAC like NFL draft,
41:32
Speaker 2: we then Morgan in the draft pick talk like within
41:35
Speaker 2: like two minutes after they're taken, and you kind of
41:38
Speaker 2: figure out what When these things go on in this league,
41:42
Speaker 2: You get no answers for weeks and it just leads
41:44
Speaker 2: to more angst and stuff. Well, definitely trying to figure
41:46
Speaker 2: out what's going on here this let's see here, this
41:49
Speaker 2: Texter says it. Who is Jeff's plan all along?
41:51
Speaker 4: Why not trade pieces away at the deadline last year
41:54
Speaker 4: instead of making a push and then get higher odds
41:57
Speaker 4: in this past year's draft lottery. We brought this up earlier.
41:59
Speaker 4: A lot of people are asking this now there's no
42:02
Speaker 4: doubt about it. I what would LaMelo's value have Bennett
42:05
Speaker 4: to trade deadline bone because he played some of his
42:08
Speaker 4: best basketball ever after that proved he can stay healthy
42:11
Speaker 4: for the full season, So it would have been the
42:13
Speaker 4: same value. Jeff Peterson's answer last year the trade deadline
42:17
Speaker 4: was this group earned the right to finish this out
42:20
Speaker 4: and see this through. But it is a legitimate Texter.
42:23
Speaker 4: Bebop says, I have been patient for thirty eight years.
42:26
Speaker 4: I can be patient for a couple more. Bebop, though,
42:29
Speaker 4: is anything butt patient bone when it comes to the
42:31
Speaker 4: Panthers and Bryce Young's development. I just want to point
42:34
Speaker 4: that out. Yes, very good, but patient. So anyway, long term,
42:40
Speaker 4: I think everything still is there for this to work
42:42
Speaker 4: out short term buzzkill pun intended is the way I
42:47
Speaker 4: would describe it. But also the off season's far from
42:50
Speaker 4: over to you know, so we'll see what ends up haping.
42:52
Speaker 2: There's a couple of theories on the text line that
42:54
Speaker 2: have come up with the last couple of days that
42:56
Speaker 2: Jeff Peterson's on the take that he's held with other
42:58
Speaker 2: teams out could.
42:59
Speaker 5: Be being paid off.
43:00
Speaker 2: But a truth theory MAC is that the Hornet simply
43:05
Speaker 2: didn't believe in Mellow's body holding up, so they had
43:07
Speaker 2: to They had to try to act as quickly as
43:09
Speaker 2: possible that if they waited on it, they may not
43:12
Speaker 2: get anything from Mello if he got hurt, So that
43:15
Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll have to figure out what exactly
43:17
Speaker 2: this plan is we come back. Brian Dunzath of Apple
43:21
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43:24
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