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Full Show Podcast: 09 July 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
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  Speaker 1: early edition with ex pole insulation, keeping Kimi Holmes warm
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  Speaker 1: and try this winter News Talks there'd be well.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Thank you so much for choosing
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  Speaker 2: the program. I'm Andrew Dickens coming up over the next
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  Speaker 2: sixty minutes. An early edition. The government decides to hoe
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  Speaker 2: into AI. Now are they too late? What can they do?
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  Speaker 2: And should we just let the private economy run it.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Business New Zealand in about
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  Speaker 2: five minutes time. The French rugby side give the gallic
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  Speaker 2: shrug to Hamilton. They want to stay in orcan so?
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  Speaker 2: Howurs Hamilton's mayor Feitling about that the extinct giant flightless
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  Speaker 2: more might have another chance to roam the range. And
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  Speaker 2: Sharon Zola from the A and Z talks to me
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  Speaker 2: about the cash right. We'll have correspondence from around the
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  Speaker 2: world and around New Zealand. Use as it brakes and
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  Speaker 2: at News Talks here b co dot Z it's eight
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  Speaker 2: minutes oter five.
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  Speaker 1: The agenda.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's Wednesday, the ninth of July, and King Charles
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  Speaker 2: has welcomed French President Emmanuel Macron for the UK's first
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  Speaker 2: state visit by European leader since Brexit. The Macrons were
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  Speaker 2: greeted run off the plane by Prince William and Princess Kate,
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  Speaker 2: and there was all the pomp and pageantry Britain could
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  Speaker 2: put on and looked amazing. The President then headed to
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  Speaker 2: the Palace of Westminster, where he talked to MPs.
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  Speaker 3: And it is a very great honor to speak before
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  Speaker 3: the two houses of the British Parliament, a place composed
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  Speaker 3: of both the High Chamber and the Lord Chamber, a
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  Speaker 3: place of history by bone and the historians, making the
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  Speaker 3: place where modern democracy emerged and the principles of democratic
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  Speaker 3: representation and consint were born.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he is charming. Macron has described Francis relationship with
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  Speaker 2: the UK as a brotherhood of arms, which had always
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  Speaker 2: has been, except when they were at war with each other. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: and staying in Europe is heart so storing temperatures continue to
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  Speaker 2: grip the continent. The city of Athens or shut at
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  Speaker 2: Citadel from one till five local time in the afternoon,
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  Speaker 2: as highs of forty two degrees celsius forecasts and a
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  Speaker 2: category for wildfire warning is in place.
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  Speaker 4: The health concerns are very serious, as temperatures in several
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  Speaker 4: parts of Greece exceed forty degrees celsius in those hours
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  Speaker 4: where the sun is the strongest, So it's very important
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  Speaker 4: that people avoid being outside when it's not absolutely necessary.
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  Speaker 2: Authority set the closures for the safety of workers and
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  Speaker 2: visitors alike. And in the United States, an impostor pretending
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  Speaker 2: to be the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, used AI
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  Speaker 2: to call high level officials. They contacted foreign ministers, they
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  Speaker 2: contacted a governor, they contacted members of Congress. They used
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  Speaker 2: voice and text messages that mimicked Rubio's speaking style.
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  Speaker 5: When asked about the cable by The Washington Post, the
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  Speaker 5: State Department responded that it would quote carry out a
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  Speaker 5: thorough investigation and continue to implement safeguards to prevent this
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  Speaker 5: from happening in the future.
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  Speaker 2: At this stage, we don't know who's behind the scam,
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  Speaker 2: and that is the threat by the way of AI,
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  Speaker 2: and we're talking about AI very shortly. It's ten after
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  Speaker 2: five news Talk Zidby on behalf of Aucland. I'd like
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  Speaker 2: to apologize for the ongoing soap opera which is the
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  Speaker 2: debate about the city's stadiums. It's been going on forever,
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  Speaker 2: but as a symptom of New Zealand's general ad hoc
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  Speaker 2: stands when it comes to the development of anything, we
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  Speaker 2: wing it. We stumble forward building stuff or not building
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  Speaker 2: stuff based on the problems of the past, but not
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  Speaker 2: the opportunities of the future. The backers of AUCLANDFC have
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  Speaker 2: pulled out of this sporting precinct development they dreamed up
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  Speaker 2: for Western Springs. They cite the problems of dealing with
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  Speaker 2: public land, which is understandable. Anyone who puts three hundred
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  Speaker 2: million dollars worth of capital improvements on land they don't
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  Speaker 2: own would be getting the wobbles. Plus, after a season
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  Speaker 2: where they sold out a twenty five thousand seaters stadium
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  Speaker 2: week after week after week, the idea of building something
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  Speaker 2: that holds half that I always thought was interesting. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if you have a long memory, you may remember the
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  Speaker 2: council first thought that the Springs would make a great
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  Speaker 2: crickets venue, which it would, but somehow they've lost that
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  Speaker 2: nerve on that. I mean, have you heard any mention
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  Speaker 2: about cricket there No, And while this bumbles on Mount
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  Speaker 2: Smart or Go Media Stadium. When z accolades last year,
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  Speaker 2: it was the ward for being the best large venue
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  Speaker 2: of the year based on its success with AUK, the FC,
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  Speaker 2: the Warriors and rock concerts. And yet Mount Smart is
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  Speaker 2: a broken down wreck with a temporary stand made of
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  Speaker 2: scaffolding which they built for an edge shearing concert which
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  Speaker 2: then just stayed and stayed and stayed, no roof and
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  Speaker 2: at wobbles. So where are we. Let's do something. Let's
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  Speaker 2: just fix up eating park for a big test. And
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  Speaker 2: since it's owned by a trust, not the city, then
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  Speaker 2: maybe they should be finding a bit more private money
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  Speaker 2: for it. Let ORC and the f C take over,
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  Speaker 2: say North Harbor Stadium. They trained the it's the right size.
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  Speaker 2: Let pons, rugby and concert promoters take over Western Springs.
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  Speaker 2: All bring back cricket and we'll see how that works.
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  Speaker 2: But for God's sake, show some love for Mount Smart.
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  Speaker 2: It's done the hard yards and it proved that it works.
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  Speaker 2: Sort of.
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  Speaker 1: News talk, said B.
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  Speaker 2: So you heard about the AI impersonating Marco Rubio. You've
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  Speaker 2: seen THEAI everywhere. I'm using it more and more instead
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  Speaker 2: of using Google, but the government's not really had a
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  Speaker 2: strategy about it. Yesterday Shane Retti came up with a
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  Speaker 2: strategy and so we're starting to move forward. Are we
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  Speaker 2: too late? We're going to talk to Business New Zealand
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  Speaker 2: and Katherine Beard next about AI on News Talk ZBB.
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  Speaker 1: Dickins and ex Pole installation Keeping Kiwi Holmes Warm and
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  Speaker 1: Dry this winter News Talk Sat B.
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  Speaker 2: So this week we've seen debate about whether Desindra A.
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  Speaker 2: Durn should turn up in front of the Commission of
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  Speaker 2: Inquiry into COVID. Yesterday that moved on to chris Hip
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  Speaker 2: Dans who was noncommittal about turning up. He's going to
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  Speaker 2: do some written responses, but he was very noncommittal about
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  Speaker 2: actually turning up for a decent cross examination. Should Chrishipkins
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  Speaker 2: be turning up, you can text me ninety two ninety two. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: the release of the government's first AI strategy outlines how
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  Speaker 2: the technology can be used to boost productivity. Science, Innovation
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  Speaker 2: and Technology Minister Doctor Shane Letty says private industries that
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  Speaker 2: adoption of AI could boost New Zealand's GDP by seventy
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  Speaker 2: six billion dollars. So Katherin Baird is Business new Zealand's
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  Speaker 2: advocacy director and joins me right now, good morning to you, Katherine,
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  Speaker 2: Good morning. So what do you reckon the government's thinking
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  Speaker 2: about AI.
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  Speaker 6: Look, I think it's really great to have a strategy released.
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  Speaker 6: You know, business wants to know how the government is
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  Speaker 6: going to treat it in terms of legislation, and when
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  Speaker 6: they get some clarity around that, that sort of gives
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  Speaker 6: them more confidence to invest in the team.
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  Speaker 7: Really, So yeah, we think.
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  Speaker 8: It's a good approach.
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  Speaker 6: It's a reasonably light handed approach, and it's you know,
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  Speaker 6: based on current legislation that we already have things like
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  Speaker 6: the Privacy Act, Consumer Rights and Human Rights so they
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  Speaker 6: will all continue to be in place, and they are
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  Speaker 6: technology neutral, so they'll be sort of the guidelines.
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  Speaker 2: So it's important to have our regulatory ducks in a
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  Speaker 2: row before we plunge in. But some might be saying
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  Speaker 2: a hands off approach might be the best way to
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  Speaker 2: just let private industry do it. I mean some of
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  Speaker 2: them are already started.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Look, absolutely, there's a lot of businesses using AI currently
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  Speaker 6: but I think business also wants to be doing it
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  Speaker 6: responsibly because you know, to successfully use the technology, you
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  Speaker 6: need to have consumer trust and we need to be
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  Speaker 6: looking after people's data and their privacy. So business will
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  Speaker 6: be completely up for that. But yeah, look, the productivity
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  Speaker 6: potential is fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: So who are already using AI? I understand large businesses
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  Speaker 2: have hoed in, but small businesses are a bit more reluctant.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that looks to be the case. So the material
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  Speaker 6: that they've released shows that our small businesses have a
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  Speaker 6: lower uptake than say Australian small business So that is
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  Speaker 6: a bit of a concern because we don't want to
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  Speaker 6: get left behind and we are a country of small
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  Speaker 6: businesses and so to boost their productivity we do need
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  Speaker 6: them to really embrace it. So I think in the
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  Speaker 6: strategy there's some plans to you know, support small business
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  Speaker 6: on that kind of digital journey and we certainly welcome that.
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  Speaker 2: Is this seventy six billion dollar GDP hit? Was it
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  Speaker 2: an exaggeration or is that true?
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  Speaker 7: Look?
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  Speaker 6: I think people are being quite blown away about the potential.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, one of the one of the companies
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  Speaker 6: in the material as an example is Halter, which is
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  Speaker 6: that fantastic new company that's doing you know cows. Yeah, yes, absolutely,
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  Speaker 6: So that's that's a really great example. You know, they
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  Speaker 6: use AI and that technology, they you know, getting rid
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  Speaker 6: of electric fences and apparently that's a billion dollar company
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  Speaker 6: already in its valuation, and it's I think it's only
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  Speaker 6: really been around for about five years. So you know,
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  Speaker 6: if New Zealand can like have the creativity and innovation
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  Speaker 6: and use the technology to do that kind of business,
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  Speaker 6: then you know, a great a great future.
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  Speaker 2: True. Absolutely, Now we could get a GDP boost, but
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  Speaker 2: what might it mean for employment numbers? Might we be
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  Speaker 2: making loads of money but have very few jobs.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, people are concerned about the job market. I think
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  Speaker 6: if we look at history and the introduction of new technology,
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  Speaker 6: there will be jobs destroyed, but there will also be
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  Speaker 6: jobs created. And we you know, often the jobs that
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  Speaker 6: are taken out of of you know, with this new
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  Speaker 6: technolo jia that sort of repetitive, dull, boring and sometimes
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  Speaker 6: dangerous jobs. So yeah, we think people will be able
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  Speaker 6: to use it. People should embrace the technology, know how
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  Speaker 6: to use it and make it part of their you
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  Speaker 6: know why they're a great employee because they know how
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  Speaker 6: to use it and they can increase their productivity.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Catherine, here comes the future. Brace yourself. It's inevitable,
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  Speaker 2: as Thanos said, and I thank you for your time today,
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  Speaker 2: Catherine Beard, who's Business New Zealand's advocacy director. It is
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  Speaker 2: nineteen minutes after five. So Hamilton gets a test first
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  Speaker 2: time in three years, and it's the all backs versus France.
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  Speaker 2: But then France turns around and says, made, no, we
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  Speaker 2: do not want to stay in Hamilton. We want to
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  Speaker 2: stay in the nice hotels up in Auckland with the
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  Speaker 2: good restaurants. So how is the mayor of Hamilton feeling
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  Speaker 2: about that attitude? Well, Paula Southgate is with.
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  Speaker 1: Me next on your radio and online on iHeartRadio early
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  Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and ex full Insulation Keeping Keeley
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  Speaker 1: homes warm and dry. This winter news talk se'd be it's.
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  Speaker 2: Five twenty one, Colin writes Andrew Shirley. All these main
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  Speaker 2: players in the COVID response should have received summons to
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  Speaker 2: appear weeks ago. Yeah, Colin, but it's not like a
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  Speaker 2: legal thing. It's a Royal Commission of Inquiry. They get
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  Speaker 2: invited so they can actually decide whether they're turning up
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  Speaker 2: or not. More on this in a moment, and Kate
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  Speaker 2: from the Wilder Upper says, read chippy. Of course the
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  Speaker 2: main party should all be there. It's a royal inquiry.
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  Speaker 2: If the tables were turned and the tone of the
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  Speaker 2: fightings weren't so grim, you can bet your bottom dollar
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  Speaker 2: that will be there taking the credit. That coward's shame
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  Speaker 2: on them, Thank you, Kate.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: The French rugby team has snubbed staying in Hamilton ahead
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  Speaker 2: of the showdown of their tour with the All Blacks
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  Speaker 2: the third Test. The squad will stay in Auckland until
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  Speaker 2: just two days before the final match due to the
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  Speaker 2: world class facilities and the accommodation available in the city
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  Speaker 2: of Sales. Nevertheless, le Bleau will take on the national
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  Speaker 2: squad at a sold out game at FMG Stadium on
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  Speaker 2: Saturday the nineteenth. And I'm sure she's going to be there.
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  Speaker 2: The mayor of Hamilton is Paula Southgate and she joins me, Now,
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  Speaker 2: how the Paula.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning, and I absolutely am going to be there.
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  Speaker 2: Now your response to the French rugby team, can you
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  Speaker 2: swear in French?
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  Speaker 7: I know I can't, can't well, and I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: Good on you. You had more classes than they. What
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  Speaker 2: would you like to say to them?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, look, I'm not too bothered about it, to be
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  Speaker 7: quite honest. We've got a fully sold out stadium, so
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  Speaker 7: we've got people coming into town to have a good time.
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  Speaker 7: They're going to spill out into our businesses and support
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  Speaker 7: our hospitality in retail. I know we've got fantastic accommodation offer,
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  Speaker 7: and I know we've got a fantastic stadium, so I
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  Speaker 7: think it's a little bit more of their lost for hours.
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  Speaker 2: If this becomes a bit of a trend though, if
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  Speaker 2: the word gets out to international teams around the world,
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  Speaker 2: does it hurt the city's ability to host big games
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  Speaker 2: going forward? After all, this is the first test you've
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  Speaker 2: had for three years now.
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  Speaker 7: I don't believe it does. Look, we had FIFA in
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  Speaker 7: last year. We hosted FIFA at Women's World Cup. They
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  Speaker 7: said to me directly that are hosting was some of
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  Speaker 7: the best they had in the whole time they were away.
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  Speaker 7: They were very, very pleased with the facilities at our stadium,
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  Speaker 7: with the changing facilities, with the training facilities around town,
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  Speaker 7: and had no issues staying in Hamilton either. Look, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I know, we're a great city with lots to offer.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's a French's loss and our game.
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  Speaker 2: What have they lost? I mean, what are they missing
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  Speaker 2: out on by not staying in Hamilton? Obviously a trip
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  Speaker 2: to the gardens.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, obviously a trip to gardens number one Trip Advisor
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  Speaker 7: traveler attraction in New Zealand. So that's that's something that
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  Speaker 7: they should have come down to see for sure. But look,
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  Speaker 7: you know, Hamilton's an easygoing city. We've got all that
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  Speaker 7: you need here. We've got great hotels, we've got a
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  Speaker 7: great stadium. As I say, we haven't got the traffic congestion.
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  Speaker 7: It's easy to move around. It's nice and quiet, and
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  Speaker 7: you know, I think they would have had a very
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  Speaker 7: relaxing time and being they were a good form for
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  Speaker 7: the game.
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  Speaker 2: They should have gone for a run around the lake.
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  Speaker 2: We never go to Hamilton go for a walk around
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  Speaker 2: the lake. It's very, very pretty now you say that,
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  Speaker 2: you sit pretty.
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  Speaker 7: And the river Park Riverway as well.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, there's a lovely parade down the river and
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  Speaker 2: you go past us spit fire and it's all good. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: are you still the fastest growing city in the country?
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  Speaker 2: Or has christ it's taken over that mantle.
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  Speaker 7: No, as far as I know, we're still the fastest
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  Speaker 7: between the fastest for the last two years, and the
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  Speaker 7: demographers that I speak to, all these population experts, as
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  Speaker 7: far as they can tell us that we probably will
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  Speaker 7: be for another two to five years. It's all happening
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  Speaker 7: here in Hamilton. And actually, you know, I think sometimes
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  Speaker 7: people forget that we're a city that's come of age
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  Speaker 7: and we've got a lot of really great things going
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  Speaker 7: on here and as I say, easy living, easy to
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  Speaker 7: get around, friendly people. But at the end of the
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  Speaker 7: day with the French, it doesn't matter because we're going
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  Speaker 7: to beat them on the pitch.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Paul, great, I probably should have charged you for that,
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  Speaker 2: and but there we go. Poor the south Gate Mayor
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  Speaker 2: of Hamilton. He's to talk to five twenty.
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  Speaker 2: So Chris Hipkins was on Kerry Woodhams Show yesterday, also
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  Speaker 2: with Ryan Bridges on a streaming show on the Herald
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  Speaker 2: dot co dot in z and he talked about the
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  Speaker 2: COVID inquiry and he insinuated that the inquiry had been
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  Speaker 2: slanted against Labor because New Zealand First is now part
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  Speaker 2: of a national government and had drawn up the scope
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  Speaker 2: of the inquiry to benefit them. It also came out
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  Speaker 2: that he has drafted written responses to the questions the
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  Speaker 2: Commission might ask of him, but he is noncommittal about
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  Speaker 2: fronting up for a verbal grilling, a good cross examination.
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  Speaker 2: Now also on the table is Justindre a Durn who
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  Speaker 2: doesn't look like showing despite the wish of many for
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  Speaker 2: her to be held to account. But the thing about
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  Speaker 2: this commission is that it is not a trial. It's
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  Speaker 2: an inquiry. It's a show trial. Really, it's a political thing,
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  Speaker 2: and Chris Hipkins is still in the political game, unlike
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  Speaker 2: to Sindra Adern, so he needs to handle this thing well.
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  Speaker 2: He was the Minister of Health during the pandemic. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: he was the minister of just about everything because he
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  Speaker 2: would the most competent in his party. So if he
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  Speaker 2: wants to be the leader of this party going into
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  Speaker 2: the next election, he really must turn up and face
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  Speaker 2: that cross examination of what he was part of. But
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  Speaker 2: we know what he did, it's already there in black
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  Speaker 2: and white. But what we don't know is the thought
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  Speaker 2: processes that drove his actions and we haven't had the
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  Speaker 2: chance to question him. And what we don't know is
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  Speaker 2: his thoughts with hindsight as to what he might have
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  Speaker 2: done better. So if he's honest about learning lessons about
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  Speaker 2: the pandemic management, because there's going to be another pandemic
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  Speaker 2: in the future, then he really must turn up and
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  Speaker 2: face the heat. It'll be good for him, it'll be
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  Speaker 2: good for us. If he doesn't, the conspiracy theorists that
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  Speaker 2: he mentioned yesterday will bring all their bias to bear
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  Speaker 2: against him next election. So Chris Hipkins has choices face
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  Speaker 2: up and tell the truth, stand apart and let speculation
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  Speaker 2: of what he calls or buy what he calls conspiracy
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  Speaker 2: theorists run wild, or just quit, quit his aspiration to
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  Speaker 2: become prime Minister one more time, and enjoy a retirement
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  Speaker 2: from public life. S in your Courts news Talk said
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  Speaker 2: b five twenty nine. Les Miserabla, that's Les Blue. They
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  Speaker 2: send their seed team to beat our AB's and then
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  Speaker 2: they snub Hamilton. They're lucky they are not playing in
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  Speaker 2: Parmesan nor Today's Bonker's idea is Sir Peter Jackson and
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  Speaker 2: some guys in America wanting to resurrect the mar I'll
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  Speaker 2: give you some details on that in a few moments time.
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  Speaker 2: The big news today is what will the Reserve Bank
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  Speaker 2: do and with the official cash rate? And how is
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: our economy? Some thoughts about that a bit later on
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  Speaker 2: as well. You've got early edition. I'm Andrew Dickinson for
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  Speaker 2: Rian Bridge. This is news Talk set b ad on
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  Speaker 2: a cardoies not to celebrate.
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  Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's
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  Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens at expol Insulation keeping Kiwi
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  Speaker 1: Holmes warm and dry. This winter news talk said by.
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  Speaker 9: Me, don't you win the body?
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  Speaker 10: I can do this all to be done to dul
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  Speaker 10: Good morning on the baby BOSTEO.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome to your Wednesday. I'm Andrew Dickinson for
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge. Now, as you heard with Neva, today's bonkers
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  Speaker 2: story is that Sir Peter Jackson and Ita who have
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  Speaker 2: joined forces to genetically engineer a return of the more
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  Speaker 2: that big flightless bird that went extinct six hundred years
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  Speaker 2: ago as Mary hunted them into extinction. And they teamed
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  Speaker 2: up with the American company humbly called Colossal Biosciences, and
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  Speaker 2: they reckon they've got enough DNA from caves to be
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: able to resurrect the bird within a decade, and Peter
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  Speaker 2: Jackson has so far put in ten million dollars Currently,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: COLSS of Biosciences are well. They brought back the dire
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: wolf you heard that with Neva, but they're also working
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: to bring back the wooly mammoth, while also working towards
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the resurrection of the Tasmanian tiger and of course the Dodo.
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  Speaker 2: So this month, that company is based in Techno, Texas,
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  Speaker 2: announced it had genetically engineered some wooly mice. Now, boys,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: mouse is a long way from an elephant, but fair
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  Speaker 2: play to here. Now what could possibly go wrong? Hey?
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  Speaker 2: Is Jurassic Park becoming true the way Terminator is coming
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  Speaker 2: true with the rise of AI. Scientists have already been
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  Speaker 2: warning of the unintended consequences of this whole project. They
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: did that back in March. For instance, if the more
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  Speaker 2: ever got out of the wild, I mean, who wants
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  Speaker 2: to bump into an angry ten foot high bird while
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: on a tramp? What would they eat? Where would they go?
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  Speaker 2: Could they run through our cities? The scientists have also
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: warned about resurrecting the hasted eagle because with a tongue
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: in cheek fair to say, they say that children could
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: be plucked away by the giant extinct eagle. It's all
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  Speaker 2: the glorious waste of money by people who have too
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  Speaker 2: much money and too much time. For God's sake, Peter,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: just make a film. But of course there's one question
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: we're all asking about the more. What do they taste like?
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: And how do you cook them? Because I think you'll
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: find the more is too big for my oven. Heather's
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: talking about this at seven to fifty this morning. It's
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: twenty one to six News Talk said, be around the country.
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  Speaker 2: We go Callen Proctor in Dunedin.
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  Speaker 11: Hello, Wading Andrew.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: So there's a bit of a reorganization of Southend councils
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: that's being investigated.
• 20:15
  Speaker 11: It's been looked at by the Local Government Commission. This
• 20:18
  Speaker 11: follows South and Mere's proposal last August to reorganize local
• 20:22
  Speaker 11: government into two unitary authorities here one rural base and
• 20:26
  Speaker 11: one for Invercargol City. The Commissions agreed to investigate this
• 20:30
  Speaker 11: initiative after consulting with the authorities affected by the reorganization.
• 20:34
  Speaker 11: South and Mere. Rob Scott's welcoming this news. He says
• 20:37
  Speaker 11: there is need for change in their local government south
• 20:40
  Speaker 11: and does deserve relevant representation. He says that's connected to
• 20:43
  Speaker 11: their communities more efficient and also more affordable.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: And how is Otago's weather.
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: It's cloudy and windy, fresh nor easterly today morning drizzle.
• 20:52
  Speaker 11: The highth of Duneda is ten today.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: And I thank you Claire Sherwood from Christian's joins a
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: good morning, good morning. How many of the current Christiach
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: City council is a seeking reelection?
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  Speaker 12: Well news talks s head Beacon today reveal all of
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  Speaker 12: the current sixteen christ City councilor is a seeking re
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  Speaker 12: election next year, well this year rather.
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  Speaker 13: In some form now.
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  Speaker 12: The majority of the city councilors want to retain their seat.
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  Speaker 12: There is Heathkit Counselor Sarah Templeton, though she's giving up
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  Speaker 12: her council seat and throwing everything at a mayoralty bid
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  Speaker 12: up against the incumbent mayor film Major. The central ward
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  Speaker 12: is also heating up. That's where we've got former city
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  Speaker 12: councilor and the Opportunities Party leader Rath Mangi making a
• 21:30
  Speaker 12: bid to unseat the incumbent Jake McClellan in Innis. We've
• 21:34
  Speaker 12: got Allie Jones looking to topple Paulnecotter. That will be
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  Speaker 12: one to watch because Alie only missed out by eight
• 21:40
  Speaker 12: votes in twenty twenty two for that seat. We've also
• 21:43
  Speaker 12: got vocal housing density opponent Tony Simon's going up against
• 21:47
  Speaker 12: Tyler Harrison Hunt and Ricketton and of course Newstalks s
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: head B's a former broadcaster, James Daniels is eyeing a
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: seat Mackett Council in the coastal Ward. That's four years
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: after he sparked a sixty five thousand dollars by election
• 21:59
  Speaker 12: when he resigned.
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  Speaker 2: So how to Canterbury's weather cloudy.
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  Speaker 12: Again today a few showers expected, northeasterly, strong and exposed
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  Speaker 12: places and high of teen.
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  Speaker 2: We're joined by Max Toll from Wellington. HELLIMEX, good morning, gee,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: this has just going This story is so slow. New
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: details of Kirie Ellen's crash, which happened sometime in the past,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: have just been revealed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Well look, our newsroom has been trying to get this
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: released for more than a year and police have finally
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: relented amid intervention by the Ombudsman. I should say and
• 22:29
  Speaker 9: police now except it is in the public's interest to
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: know more about what happened that night in Wellington events
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  Speaker 9: that led to Kirie Allen's resignation. Of course, amid Labour's
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: election campaign. We already knew she blew over the limit
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: after crashing her car around Oriental Bay. We now know
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: via police that she spoke to officers and said she
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: was not the driver, said she wanted to speak to
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: her lawyer, refused to accompany officers for testing and was
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: hence handcuffed. Alan also was verbally abusive, according to police,
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: grabbed onto shrubbery, a tree or a bush at one
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  Speaker 9: point to avoid being moved to the police car. At
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  Speaker 9: the station. She was then handed a court summons, but
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: refused to accept it and then refused to leave the
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: station until the court summons disappeared. She also accused police
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: of charging her as a political stunt at that time.
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: Media have contacted Allan for comments. She was eventually fined
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: for careless driving, order to pay reparation and convicted and
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  Speaker 9: discharged on a charge of refusing to accompany.
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  Speaker 2: How's Wellington's weather cloudy with.
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: A few showers twelve the high Central and.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Neva ritten man who joins me from Auklandella and Neva
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: good morning. So apparently there's some dropkeecks who think her
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: fun Friday night is wrecking in historic cemetery.
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  Speaker 14: I know this is just an outrage, isn't it?
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: So?
• 23:46
  Speaker 14: Yes, the vandalism. This is of historic graves at Auckland,
• 23:49
  Speaker 14: Saint Stephen's Chapel and Parnell. Now the very Reverend Ann
• 23:52
  Speaker 14: Mills says that there's about a dozen headstones and are
• 23:55
  Speaker 14: made of marble and sandstone. They were pushed over, shattered.
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  Speaker 14: Auckland Council says this is just disgraceful and anyone with
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  Speaker 14: information to contact police, and Mills says, for years, you know,
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  Speaker 14: these graves have been maintained by volunteers and of course
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  Speaker 14: the Auckland's early settlers is buried at the chapel. Mills
• 24:15
  Speaker 14: says that they'll be distress that people can just obliterate
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  Speaker 14: historic significance with no respect respect.
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  Speaker 2: Why, what's what's the outcome of that? Exactly?
• 24:24
  Speaker 14: Nothing better us today?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know my sister in law got married in
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: that chapel. It is the most beautiful, loveliest, the most
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: beautiful little church in Aukland.
• 24:31
  Speaker 14: How is Orchand's weather Well as cloudy, chance of a
• 24:33
  Speaker 14: shower scattered round developing from the afternoon a little bit warmer.
• 24:37
  Speaker 14: Sixteen the high.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: And I thank you now. The question that we're all wondering,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: like what does more taste like? And the Texas says,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: tastes like chicken. Everything tastes like chicken. It depends on
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the source. Clive says, morning Andrew, what a drumstick? Wow, Yes,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: that's true. And Jason writes the statement that mildly killed
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: all the mare is technically true. But as you say,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the past eagle will be a threat today. I put
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  Speaker 2: it to you that the eagle was the reason the
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  Speaker 2: man he killed all the more as it was the
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: only way to get rid of the eagle and make
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: it safe for their children to visit the riverside again.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: All right, it is sixteen to six or the pomp
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: and ceremony that you could ever hope for happened overnight
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: in England as Emmanuel Macron visited the UK for the
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: very first time since Brexit. Gavin Gray is in the UK.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: He's next international correspondence with Ensit Eye Insurance Peace of
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business, Good Oney two.
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  Speaker 2: It is now thirteen to six, We're off to the UK.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Gavin Gray, Hello, Hi, There, aint pomp and ceremony as
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: a manual. Macron comes to the UK for the very
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: first time since two thousand and eight, for the very
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: first time since Brexit.
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  Speaker 13: Yes, a three day state visit. The red carpet being
• 25:51
  Speaker 13: rolled out quite literally. He's just spoken to Parliament saying
• 25:55
  Speaker 13: that the UK and France have a duty to tackle
• 25:57
  Speaker 13: illegal migration with humanity, solidarity and firmness. Some people in
• 26:02
  Speaker 13: this country don't believe France is doing enough to prevent
• 26:05
  Speaker 13: the small boats from leaving their shores, and the tens
• 26:08
  Speaker 13: of millions of New Zealand dollars that the UK has
• 26:11
  Speaker 13: given to France to tackle the problem has simply not
• 26:14
  Speaker 13: been used for that purpose. Nevertheless, there's a state banquet
• 26:18
  Speaker 13: at Windsor Castle this evening and so far a great
• 26:21
  Speaker 13: deal of warmth from all the dignitaries towards Immanuel Macron.
• 26:25
  Speaker 13: Haven't seen any protests either, and of course the UK
• 26:28
  Speaker 13: very very keen to be slightly warmer towards Europe under
• 26:34
  Speaker 13: the new Prime Minister of Sekire Starmership Sirkire Starmer and
• 26:39
  Speaker 13: his premiership rafter the rather tough brexit use. But there's
• 26:43
  Speaker 13: another thing. The French are still very very angry at
• 26:46
  Speaker 13: the ORCA steel the deal between the US, Australia and
• 26:50
  Speaker 13: the UK over its defense, and the canceling at late
• 26:53
  Speaker 13: notice of a submarine contract between Australia and France, which
• 26:58
  Speaker 13: then led to the announcement of ORCAS a short while later.
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  Speaker 13: So a few apologies I think on the way, and
• 27:04
  Speaker 13: well hopefully some better news for him at home as well.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: It's always slightly evolved with Orcus. And here's the thing.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: The Australians went for the deal with America, and then
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: of course in came Donald Trump, who says, I don't
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: really want to worry too much about global global issues
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: in global pex. So maybe it's all bit of a mess.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: We'll see. Now. Three men have been found guilty of
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: an asinatach on a London warehouse and it's got Russian
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: mercenaries involved.
• 27:30
  Speaker 13: Yeah, that's right. So two twenty three year olds and
• 27:32
  Speaker 13: a twenty year old were found guilty today of aggravated
• 27:36
  Speaker 13: arson with intent to endanger life at an industrial unit.
• 27:40
  Speaker 13: The reason it's so important is this particular warehouse the
• 27:43
  Speaker 13: company sent aid and internet satellite equipment to Ukraine.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: So when it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 13: Suddenly burnt down seemingly without cause, a few eyebrows were
• 27:53
  Speaker 13: raised and it was said that they A group had
• 27:57
  Speaker 13: orchestrated this arson attack on behalf of the wagon A
• 28:00
  Speaker 13: group or the bargainer group, which is of course the
• 28:02
  Speaker 13: Russian Mercenary group. The UK government has prescribed this group
• 28:07
  Speaker 13: as a terrorist group, and it was said that roughly
• 28:09
  Speaker 13: two point three million New Zealand dollars worth of damage
• 28:12
  Speaker 13: was caused in the attack at the warehouse. But of
• 28:14
  Speaker 13: course it did mean as well that production also was disrupted,
• 28:18
  Speaker 13: and that, no doubt is what the Russians were after
• 28:21
  Speaker 13: all along, not like in the fact that Ukraine was
• 28:24
  Speaker 13: receiving business and aid from this particular group. It shipped
• 28:28
  Speaker 13: humanitarian aid and goods to Ukraine, including the so called
• 28:32
  Speaker 13: Starlink satellite equipment that's crucial for Ukrainian troops as they
• 28:36
  Speaker 13: work out where the enemy is. And so consequently this
• 28:40
  Speaker 13: was a bit of a setback, it's thought to that
• 28:42
  Speaker 13: and a big warning from the Crown Prosecution Service here
• 28:45
  Speaker 13: that Russia cannot view the UK as some kind of
• 28:49
  Speaker 13: a soft target with which to do its dirty deals.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Kevin Gray, out of the UK I thank you so much.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: It's ten minutes two six now. Well I mentioned the fact,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: by the way, while we're still in the UK, the
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Ringo Star has been looking at the progress of the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: film about him. Remember they're making four films about Ringo
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Star about the Beatles, should I say one about each guys.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: And he's been looking at it and he's been saying
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: it's looking really good. The story will be released in
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. He had a few concerns when he
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: read about scenes that featured his first wife, Maureen, and
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: he still wonders how the films will meet the deadline.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: But here would go Ringo Star happy Now. I forgot
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: to say that Monday was Ringo's eighty fifth birthday and
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: he's looking good. And once again he made his call
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: to the world to go outside at midday and shout
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: to the world peace and love. I don't know how
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: many people on Monday actually went out at midday and
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: said peace and love. But what I do know is
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: that it didn't work.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Does that be.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: All right? The official cast rate has had six cuts
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: in a row. Will this end today? It's wide They
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: expected to hit pause, but a cut is not off
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the cards. ANC chief economist Sharon's on has got up
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: early for us. Hello Sharon, good morning. Two days ago
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I suggested a cut of twenty five basis points to
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: a flat three might give the moribund parts of our
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: economy a bit of a g up for summer. Was
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: that a silly idea?
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: No, not at all. In fact, you know we're on
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: record is saying, actually, we think a cut is justified.
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: Wouldn't be a bad idea. What we've seen in a
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: wide range of data actually is that things have just
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: started to roll over a bit in the last few months.
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: And in fact, the Reserve Bank's own shiny new toy,
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: the DVP now indicator, is progesting a chance that GDP
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: actually i've gone backwards in the last sec three months
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: of this year. So in our mind that kind of
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: more than offsets the fact that GDP in the first
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: three months was stronger than they thought. That we actually
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: think that matters quite a bit. That momentum is play
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: failing a little bit at the moment.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Can we just talk about that. I've been actually watching
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: that Reserve back now cast app which is on their website,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: and it gives a real time indication of GDP, and
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: it's saying the economy fell back into contraction in the June.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Is that app accurate? Do you think it's readings are real?
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Are we falling back into contraction?
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: Well, it's not new and so far as it's just
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: rolling together all the indicators the Reserve Bank looks at anyway,
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: but it is kind of in your face, and so
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: you can't rule out that it might impact the committee
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: just by the fact that it's not their official GDP forecast.
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: They have their own forecasters who will take that into account,
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: but everything else as well. But our own forecast is
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: kind of zero point one positive.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Sorry, So did you say zero point one?
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: That's what we're our current forecast for the second quarter
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: as a positive.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Let's just call the zero amongst freedom, shall we?
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. I think that's some timely reasonable.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: So it does look like the economy more or less
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: went nowhere in the last three months that we've just finished.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: And do you think they will not do anything today?
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: Well, they don't have a GDP target, they don't have
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: an employment target either. They've got an inflation target. And
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: in May there was one member of the committee who
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: felt pretty strongly they shouldn't have cuts back then, and
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: actually they couldn't reach consensus to cut. They had to
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: hold a vote, which is actually quite unusual. They do
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: prefer to all agree a very New Zealand way that
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: they couldn't. So it's particularly tricky one to call because
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: they're trying to guess not just what a committee will think,
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: but ultimately you know, this one holdout. How are they
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: feeling now? There was a mention in the summary record
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: of meeting last time that it was concerned about inflation
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: expectations and inflation generally, that the lingering inflation could come back,
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: that the members could catch fire again. We can see
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: why those concerns exists. There's certainly sticky parts of inflation,
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: but basically in the bigger picture, we think those concerns
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: will be alleviated rather than will intensify.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Well, Sharon, thank you so much for your advice today.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Certainly it feels like inflation is rested in I mean,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: look at your rates bill, eh it is five to
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: six to six.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on early edition with ex bowl insulation, keeping
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Kiwi homes warm and try this winter news talks.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: It'd be while talking about the resurrection of the MA.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I'm very upset that absolutely no one listening has taken
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: offense at my question. The biggest question of all is
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: what does it taste like?
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: Tastes like whale?
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: You reckon everyone. We'll never know everyone, What do you mean?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: We'll never know if they make it. We want to
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: eat it. That's the human nature. You got to eat
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: everything once.
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: Generations before you're allowed to have you eaten whale.
• 33:32
  Speaker 13: No.
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah, but are you sure though, because your face looks
• 33:34
  Speaker 10: like they're lying right now.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: No, I haven't, I have not.
• 33:36
  Speaker 10: Okay, good, Well, it will be generations before you're allowed
• 33:38
  Speaker 10: to try the more so you're not going to be
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: able to and you're not allowed to try the whale,
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: so you'll never know.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: You're talking about this at seven fifty.
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we are going to be talking about this and
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: how realistic it is. Also OCR day today probably going
• 33:48
  Speaker 10: to hold, should cut.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I just said that. I just said that. Sharon
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  Speaker 2: zong I agreed.
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  Speaker 10: Yep, absolutely, but we'll hold, and we'll also talk about AI.
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  Speaker 10: We've got that we're the last country in the developed
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  Speaker 10: will to publish an AI strategy.
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  Speaker 2: Good stuff, great show. Hither and for Mike, I'm Andrew Dickens,
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  Speaker 2: I'll see it tomorrow.
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