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98.2: Maybe Your Braids Are Pulled Too Tight · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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  Speaker 1: Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences
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  Speaker 1: and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 2: It's showtime, folks!
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  Speaker 3: Enjoy the show!
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  Speaker 4: This is Courtney Gaines, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 5: It's time for Sofa Theater.
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  Speaker 3: I thought I'd go out and skate after this.
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  Speaker 5: Very well, dear.
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  Speaker 4: Mighty awful event.
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  Speaker 3: At the Fern School this morning, huh, Miss Penmore? Yes, Leroy,
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  Speaker 3: it was very sad.
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  Speaker 2: They say when they find that little boy... Yes, Miss Penmore.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Rhoda, you're behaving very well, dear, but still it's
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  Speaker 1: a terrible thing to see and remember.
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  Speaker 3: I understand how.
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  Speaker 4: You feel, darling.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. I don't feel
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  Speaker 3: any way at all. Have you been naughty?
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  Speaker 2: Why no, mother.
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  Speaker 3: What will you give me for a basket of kisses?
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  Speaker 6: I'll give you a basket of hugs.
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  Speaker 5: I'm the biggest nightmare.
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  Speaker 4: I'm your sweetest sin.
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  Speaker 7: I'm the fear of losing.
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  Speaker 4: I'm the voice from deep within.
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  Speaker 5: I'm the black sun rising.
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  Speaker 8: Of self-destruction on the better end when the pill you
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  Speaker 8: swallow and.
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  Speaker 5: Your reason to.
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  Speaker 8: Cry are great by war on murder.
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  Speaker 5: On the dead you die.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to Moving Up Down the Sofa Theater. Once again,
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  Speaker 4: I am Brian.
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  Speaker 2: This is Roger Yoon.
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  Speaker 6: I am still Misty.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still Marlena.
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  Speaker 4: And we lost Jay.
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  Speaker 6: The third dimension pulled him back in.
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  Speaker 2: He thought he could escape.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no escape.
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  Speaker 2: It's like opening the Hellraiser box and always falling to you.
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  Speaker 6: He's picking up his parents, so it's kind of the
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  Speaker 6: same thing.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, you said that one. No, I'm joking.
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  Speaker 6: I love his mom.
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  Speaker 4: It's only because she makes you egg rolls.
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  Speaker 6: She makes the best egg rolls in the world.
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  Speaker 3: I love his mom for her egg rolls.
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  Speaker 6: Doesn't she make the best egg rolls?
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  Speaker 3: I haven't eaten her egg rolls since last Halloween.
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  Speaker 6: We have some that are still in our freezer from
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  Speaker 6: his birthday.
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  Speaker 9: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: That was in June.
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  Speaker 2: They keep well, though.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Obviously.
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  Speaker 3: It's deep brown.
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  Speaker 4: All right. This week's Sofa Theater feature is The Bad Seed.
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  Speaker 4: The year is 1956. Director... I'm still trying to figure
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  Speaker 4: this one out. M-E-R-V-Y-N?
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  Speaker 5: Mervyn?
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  Speaker 9: Mervyn?
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  Speaker 4: Is that right? Sounds good to me.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Mervyn.
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  Speaker 4: I can't imagine what else it would be. Mervyn LeRoy. LeRoy?
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  Speaker 4: The plot... LeRoy?
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  Speaker 2: LeRoy or LeRoy?
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  Speaker 3: LeRoy.
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  Speaker 4: Depends on who says it. It's like the jewelers, you know.
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  Speaker 4: If it's high class, it's Leroy. If it's, you know,
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  Speaker 4: down in the ghetto, it's Leroy. The plot, according to IMDb,
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  Speaker 4: is an ideal housewife begins to suspect her loving adolescent
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  Speaker 4: daughter may be a heartless killer. So, spoiler alert, because
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  Speaker 4: we're going to tell you what they told us at
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  Speaker 4: the end that we're not supposed to. At the end
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  Speaker 4: of the movie, they give you a big warning to not...
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  Speaker 4: reveal the special magical ending here and, you know, we're
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  Speaker 4: going to ignore that like we always do. And then
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  Speaker 4: double spoiler alert because we're also going to tell you
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  Speaker 4: how the book ends. So, you know, if you're one of.
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  Speaker 6: All the kinds of differences in the books.
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  Speaker 4: If you're one of them readers, we're going to ruin
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  Speaker 4: that for you too.
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  Speaker 6: I read the book and there weren't even no words
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  Speaker 6: in there. Or the features in there. I don't even know.
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  Speaker 4: That's called a notebook, Misty.
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  Speaker 9: I meant to say there weren't no pictures.
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  Speaker 4: I'm retarded.
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  Speaker 1: What do you want?
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  Speaker 4: You're hanging out in the school supply aisle again. These
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  Speaker 4: books don't have no words.
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  Speaker 2: What the hell?
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  Speaker 4: I wrote the short bus here.
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  Speaker 6: What do you want?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, all right.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, like y'all never said anything that was hard.
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  Speaker 3: I remember once we got to an argument over, like, the...
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  Speaker 3: like collective and elective Indiana versus Kentucky. And your argument was,
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  Speaker 3: what was it?
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  Speaker 9: Kentucky has the lowest readability rate.
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  Speaker 6: And that was what it was. It's still correct.
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  Speaker 4: The sad part is I think that was on the show.
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  Speaker 9: What?
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  Speaker 4: I think we have that documented, don't we?
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  Speaker 3: No, this was a long time ago. I have the
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  Speaker 3: lowest reading ability, Rich.
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  Speaker 6: I couldn't think of the word literacy.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Kentucky's got the lowest reading ability out of all the states.
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  Speaker 6: They do.
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  Speaker 9: I'd rather be able to not say that properly than
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  Speaker 9: to actually be in Kentucky.
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  Speaker 6: And not be able to read or wear shoes.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 6: I'm fucking with you.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Speaking of shoes with metal death plates on them, where
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  Speaker 4: would you like to begin with us?
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  Speaker 6: It gives a pain in the ass.
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  Speaker 3: Start at the beginning.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 3: She reminds me of someone I know named Sam.
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  Speaker 4: Just someone? Yeah. You don't know who, but I'm pretty
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  Speaker 4: sure their name is Sam.
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  Speaker 3: Someone specific I know named Sam.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why.
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  Speaker 6: I can't place it, but yeah.
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  Speaker 3: She reminds me of that girl.
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  Speaker 9: I'm just going to prove my theory that all kids
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  Speaker 9: are just fucking evil and should be sleeping peeled to death.
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  Speaker 3: Civilization would end.
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  Speaker 6: That's all good. We wouldn't be missing much.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes I agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes. Well, it's like the beginning. You could already
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  Speaker 2: tell from just the beginning of the movie that this
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  Speaker 2: kid is bad. I mean, because she's overly sweet, overly saccharine, gorgeous, perfect, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But instantly you're like, well, the movie's called The Bad Seed,
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  Speaker 2: so in the first five seconds you already know what's
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  Speaker 2: going on.
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  Speaker 4: You're like, oh, there she is.
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  Speaker 2: There's no ruining of anything. There's no mystery. There's no
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  Speaker 2: spoiler alert, really, unless you're a complete dullard and you're like, wait,
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  Speaker 2: she is perfect and beautiful. She'd never do something like that.
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  Speaker 4: That could happen.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They're just stringing you along for the first six hours.
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  Speaker 3: Of this movie. Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 2: Which, the movie is six hours.
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  Speaker 3: Shit.
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  Speaker 6: It didn't take me that long to fucking read the book.
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  Speaker 2: Went on forever.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they could have used some editing, in my opinion.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, pacing is definitely an issue. Again, it's still impressive
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  Speaker 4: in what it does, but yeah, pacing. It's wordy. It's
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  Speaker 4: very monologue-driven on occasion, dialogue-driven definitely.
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  Speaker 6: Leroy and his crazy ass rants to himself.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know at all Monica Breedlove.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think nobody knows anything but her.
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  Speaker 3: She ain't got long to go anyway.
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  Speaker 11: Old Heifer's about ready for the canners.
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  Speaker 1: But that young trough fed Ms. Penmark. She might get
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  Speaker 1: kind of lonesome with.
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  Speaker 4: That soldier boy who has gone.
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  Speaker 11: Yes, sir, she might.
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  Speaker 4: That Rhoda's a real smart one.
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  Speaker 1: That's a smart little gal. She's almost as smart as
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  Speaker 1: I am.
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  Speaker 12: She sees through me, and I see through her.
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  Speaker 4: Swallow me a frog, but she's smart, huh? But they're
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  Speaker 4: not to himself. Because, I mean, I don't know, do
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  Speaker 4: you know that much about this? Because it's all, it
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  Speaker 4: definitely plays in when at the very end, you know,
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  Speaker 4: once we've gotten past the crazy spoiler area, we have
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  Speaker 4: the callback of the cast.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it almost seems like they didn't adapt the play
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  Speaker 3: very much.
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  Speaker 4: It basically is the play. The reason the cast is
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  Speaker 4: who they are, that is the actual Broadway cast. They
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  Speaker 4: completely transferred them over and then made it into a movie.
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  Speaker 4: So it really.
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  Speaker 9: Which is why at some points it does seem overdramatic
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  Speaker 9: because that's how plays usually are.
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  Speaker 6: They have that overdramatic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Which is why I don't like plays. The monologues and
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  Speaker 4: things like that. And Leroy's talking to the audience. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He's out there explaining things about the character to the audience.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's like they didn't re-adapt that to a
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  Speaker 4: movie form where you could work it into dialogue. He
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  Speaker 4: just looks like a crazy person because he's out there
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  Speaker 4: rambling to a bush. Seriously.
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  Speaker 9: But yeah, they changed so much stuff from the book.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, in the book, the dad, Bad Seed's dad,
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  Speaker 9: he's not in the book. It's rarely, rarely, until like
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  Speaker 9: the very end. I mean, there's... does have a dad
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  Speaker 9: though yeah the little girl has a dad and i
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  Speaker 9: think all the correspondence you get is just him writing
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  Speaker 9: letters to the mom there's never any interaction with him
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  Speaker 9: and the daughter.
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  Speaker 6: In the movie and it's just that you don't see
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  Speaker 6: his character to the end of.
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  Speaker 4: The book You know, they're most, I mean, yeah, they
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  Speaker 4: ship him off in the first scene, so.
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  Speaker 6: But he's still a little bit more there. They talk
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  Speaker 6: on the phone. There's more interaction. But yeah, in the book,
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  Speaker 6: that's not so much.
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  Speaker 9: It's more of a dad than Christine has in the
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  Speaker 9: book because in the book, he's fucking dead for years.
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  Speaker 6: I think cancer got his ass.
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  Speaker 9: I guess it makes it easier for them to explain
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  Speaker 9: her whole motherhood situation faster because in the book, she
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  Speaker 9: has to go through all this research and reading all
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  Speaker 9: the stories that he wrote.
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  Speaker 4: Was there microfiche involved?
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  Speaker 6: No, I think this was before microfiche. I don't remember.
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  Speaker 4: I was reminiscing about microfiche a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: Microfiche.
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  Speaker 2: What is it?
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  Speaker 4: It's pre-internet.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Pre-computer, the only way to store a lot of it,
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  Speaker 4: the little images on the transfers, I guess. It's some
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  Speaker 4: sort of file.
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  Speaker 6: You see it in movies all the time. Like in
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  Speaker 6: the newspaper thing?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like when people are going through the newspapers?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm familiar with that, but I just didn't know that
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  Speaker 3: it was called microfiche.
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  Speaker 4: Microfiche.
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  Speaker 2: Very timely. interface trying to turn the damn knobs and
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  Speaker 2: like get it to where you.
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  Speaker 14: Want to and then enlarge yeah yeah but in the
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  Speaker 14: book she's gonna do all this research and read and
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  Speaker 14: i guess they just figured they didn't want to go
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  Speaker 14: through all that bullshit so like oh we'll make her
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  Speaker 14: dead mysteriously alive again so whatever it's good for him.
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  Speaker 3: It would have just made the movie a lot longer
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  Speaker 3: yeah do.
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  Speaker 4: You want that do you want montage scenes any longer
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  Speaker 4: would have been just it's already long enough for him
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  Speaker 4: to have like 48 drinks a piece is that one
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  Speaker 4: thing I mean Jesus Christ there's a whole lot of
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  Speaker 4: drinking in this movie especially if I what's.
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  Speaker 9: Her lady the dead kid's mom holy.
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  Speaker 4: Shit yeah I figure we're gonna have to devote a
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  Speaker 4: whole little section to her so okay go to town
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Should we start why she's upset in the first.
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  Speaker 4: Place I guess we.
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  Speaker 9: Should break it down for those that uh or whatever
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  Speaker 9: aren't in the know yeah Well, apparently the school gives
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  Speaker 9: out medals for penmanship, which is just fucking retarded in
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  Speaker 9: the first place. So whichever kid's handwriting improves the best
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  Speaker 9: over the, at least in the book, it was over
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  Speaker 9: a certain amount of time, or it's not, whatever. But anyways,
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  Speaker 9: the little boy wins it, and the little girl, she
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  Speaker 9: has a goddamn fit.
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  Speaker 4: She does.
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  Speaker 9: Screaming, tantrum having, and anyways, she eventually gets her medal.
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  Speaker 6: She didn't win her medal, but she stole it from
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  Speaker 6: the dead kid party.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I probably shouldn't do the description. I don't know what
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  Speaker 6: the hell I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 4: You just watched the movie.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure you know it.
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  Speaker 6: I'm tired and cold. But anyways, the mom's not too happy.
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  Speaker 6: And she's drunk.
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  Speaker 3: Is it time I was drunk?
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  Speaker 6: I might expect to call myself.
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  Speaker 3: Is it time to call out the patrol wagon?
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  Speaker 1: No, no.
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  Speaker 3: You heard what I said. I said only that you
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  Speaker 3: were here. Your husband.
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  Speaker 1: It was at the drugstore at the corner.
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  Speaker 6: I was only going to hold her in my arms
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  Speaker 6: and ask her a few simple questions.
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  Speaker 3: Well, perhaps another time would be better.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, you think because I'm lit?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'm not lit in the slightest degree.
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  Speaker 2: Rhoda knows more than she's told of you.
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  Speaker 4: Don't mind me being presumptuous.
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  Speaker 3: I had a long talk with that guard since I
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  Speaker 3: saw you last.
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  Speaker 6: And it was a long, interesting conversation.
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  Speaker 8: He said he saw Rhoda on the pier just.
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  Speaker 6: Before Claude was found among the pilings.
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  Speaker 4: She knows something, all right. Oh, I know what you're thinking.
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  Speaker 4: You're thinking, how can I get rid of this pest?
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  Speaker 2: It turns into this weird class thing that she's explaining about,
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  Speaker 2: you know. Repeatedly. Repeatedly over and over again. She doesn't
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  Speaker 2: so much get invited into this woman's apartment as just
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  Speaker 2: kind of comes in.
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  Speaker 4: Well, everybody seems to do that. Her landlady, the guy
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  Speaker 4: working in the yard, they all just walk into her
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  Speaker 4: damn house.
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  Speaker 3: The only one who, like, waited for her to open
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  Speaker 3: the door was her father.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, right? It's sad.
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  Speaker 2: But just her storming in, you know, and she's completely belligerent.
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  Speaker 6: As most drunks usually are.
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  Speaker 2: Which is true. She plays a good drunk, but she's annoying, like,
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  Speaker 2: How she would smack her lips after everything she'd say. Oh, God,
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  Speaker 2: it was, like, annoying as shit.
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  Speaker 6: She was the total actress I could ever see.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, she's terrible. Her character reminded me of Carol... Burnett?
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  Speaker 3: Carol Burnett.
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  Speaker 4: She kind of looks like Carol Burnett, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like, when Carol Burnett's being her most annoying character.
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  Speaker 4: The thing is, even at Ridiculous, Carol Burnett, she's still
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  Speaker 4: a massively better actress than this woman. But this is
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  Speaker 4: the really sad part. Now, I realized... I knew... What's
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  Speaker 4: the kid's name?
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  Speaker 6: Patty something patty mccormick.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah patty mccormick the little kid i knew um she
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  Speaker 4: got nominated for an oscar for this role that's that's
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  Speaker 4: really fitting i mean i think the little kid did
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  Speaker 4: a good job the mother also got nominated for lead
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  Speaker 4: actress she got it lead versus the kid the one
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  Speaker 4: that frightens me is that that woman also got nominated
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  Speaker 4: for best supporting actress what the fucking drunk eileen heckard
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  Speaker 4: movies yeah i'm like i understand in 1956 i.
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  Speaker 2: Mean hollywood's all a sham anyways and damn awards yeah
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  Speaker 2: but usually not that bad i mean there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of you know differences in acting style and you know
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  Speaker 2: 1956 versus now.
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  Speaker 4: But still there's a level where bad acting is just
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  Speaker 4: bad acting.
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  Speaker 2: Might have just been it might have been because of
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  Speaker 2: subject matter too maybe you.
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  Speaker 4: Know maybe this is one of the first times they
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  Speaker 4: were like addressing drinking you know maybe it was something
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  Speaker 4: a little more politically based that like This was one
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  Speaker 4: of the first things that really brought it out. I
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  Speaker 4: doubt that. It seems pretty late for that. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the drinking part, it was so badly pieced together.
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  Speaker 14: It was hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was laughable, but it didn't fit in the
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  Speaker 4: rest of this movie because there are no comedy moments
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  Speaker 4: anywhere in this. It seemed... oddly out of place because
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  Speaker 4: you couldn't help but kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Laugh at the fact that she came back the second
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  Speaker 2: time it's like what you again for the same scene
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  Speaker 2: basically the same yeah the exact same to see.
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  Speaker 4: The same bullshit that she went through the last time
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  Speaker 4: which was hard enough for us to get through but
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  Speaker 4: god jiminy.
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  Speaker 9: Well in the book i mean the first the first
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  Speaker 9: two times that they had interaction the christine went and
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  Speaker 9: saw the woman she went to her house yeah So,
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  Speaker 9: I mean, I guess they were, they don't have another
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  Speaker 9: set or something.
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  Speaker 4: Well, again, it does very much feel like a play
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  Speaker 4: because they don't really leave that. I mean, you get
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  Speaker 4: shots of like him in his office or the hospital later,
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: but it's like, for the most part, it all takes
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: place in that apartment or outside the front of that apartment.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: You know, there's the one cutaway to the picnic thing,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: you know, here and there, that kind of stuff. But
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: the majority of it, it very easily got translated over
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: from play to screen and And as far as direction,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: not much difference either. I mean, the director actually did
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: a lot of stuff. Like, he did a ton of
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: really huge, you know, big-budget movies for that time period,
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: all through, like, 40s, 50s. I think even a few
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: years after that, he kept doing stuff. But, I don't know,
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: nothing impressive, as far as I can say. It felt very, like...
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: And again, this was just the dawning age of TV drama,
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: but it felt very TV for that time period. It
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: felt very, you know, the static shots of just the room,
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: and he would just sort of follow them back and forth.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: But it never seemed like it did anything massively visually creative.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, he kept it together, I.
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: Guess, but.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: I was hoping for a little more just direction-wise, visually.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: I was hoping for more editing.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: That too.
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: It just drug on forever. That's my complaint. It was forever.
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: And the mom, I guess because I read the book,
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: I'm just kind of a pissy bitch.
• 17:13
  Speaker 9: She's not what I pictured in the book, so I'm
• 17:15
  Speaker 9: kind of like, I'm not happy with her because in
• 17:18
  Speaker 9: the book she's younger, she's prettier.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: I thought the actress did a good job with it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: The only thing with her is, again, not really an
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: official acting complaint. She's got such a raspy voice. It, like,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: gives out, like, halfway into almost every sentence. It does
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: that weird little thing. Especially when she's screaming. And, yeah,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: by the time she's, like, hysterical towards the end of
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: the movie, she's just, yeah, you're lucky to make out
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: what she's saying. So she just had kind of an
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: odd voice. But, I mean, performance-wise, I thought, you know...
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: She wasn't bad. Again, I didn't read the book, so
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know the difference between characters, but I thought performance...
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: Her and the little girl, and I guess the upstairs
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: neighbor lady, she was annoying, but she played it very realistic.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: In the book, she.
• 18:02
  Speaker 9: Plays the overbearing, always there, getting all on your business
• 18:06
  Speaker 9: kind of lady.
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: She's always there.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: So to me, she should have been the other one nominated,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: not the crazy drunk. No, not at all.
• 18:13
  Speaker 9: I like LeRoy.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: LeRoy is awesome.
• 18:16
  Speaker 9: That's another thing that's different than the book. In the book,
• 18:18
  Speaker 9: he definitely has more of a perverse thing about the
• 18:21
  Speaker 9: whole thing. He's like, Oh, dear, the things I do
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: to her mother, and just dirty and just creepy.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: He kind of said that at first, but then he
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: did it.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: He did the capitalizing, yeah.
• 18:31
  Speaker 9: It gets further, and he has this obsession with it.
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: It gets to the point where it's all he can
• 18:34
  Speaker 9: think about is the kid.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: The kid, see?
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, you get a little vibe, because I remember
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: the first time watching it, I was like, I got
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: a real pervy vibe from him that very first time,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: just where he's running into her in the living room.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: But in the book.
• 18:47
  Speaker 9: It's definitely a scene where he goes back to his
• 18:50
  Speaker 9: family and is talking to his wife, and that's all
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: he can talk about is this kid. Oh, God.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: You know, how he.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I want a divorce.
• 18:57
  Speaker 12: Jesus.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: I want to marry this 10-year-old. Eight-year-old.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Jesus.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: God.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: One always made me think about in the movie, like,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: what Leroy did, if he's like, you know... I'm smart
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: like you're smart and people don't know.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: And I'm like did he do things I always get
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: away with it yeah they're.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Like people buried in like lakes which have a graze
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: because of you or I don't know I mean I
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: got the but that's kind of the charm of Leroy
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: that I liked.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Well I think it's again it's it changes midway through
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: yeah because in the beginning he does come off really
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: creepy and you assume that he's Especially now, because we
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: know how pervy people are. I guess in the 50s,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: maybe they were a little more wide-eyed about it, but
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: I'm just looking at him going, okay, don't let that
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: guy near your dog, is what I'm thinking. But as
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: it goes on, it really does switch, and he becomes
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: sort of like victimized by this little girl And what's
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: really funny, especially for his character, is in the middle there,
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: that mid portion where in the beginning he just seems creepy.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: And then by the end, it's all transpires. But in
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: the middle, I'm just watching him. I'm like, this is
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: so sad for you, buddy, because you have nothing to
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: do but mess with an eight year old all day long.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Like in the middle, he's just like fucking with her.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I'm like, don't you have anything to do? Mess with
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: a small child?
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: In the book, there's a lot of his daydreams about
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: what he would do to the mother in his little
• 20:16
  Speaker 9: basement room there.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: His little bed, his little makeshift, what would they call it?
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: Excelsior.
• 20:23
  Speaker 12: Excelsior, yeah.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: That's such a strange name for, like, packing stuff.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like, isn't that a superhero's name?
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Somebody say that? Like, Excelsior.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't that a.
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: I kept thinking seltzer water.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: It's one of the Stan Lee guys, because he's always
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: using that one.
• 20:40
  Speaker 9: Oh well yeah he's definitely a pervy man in the
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: book and it carries over a little bit in the
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: movie but not quite as detailed as creepy as he.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Is in the book well there's a little more like
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: the the misker task guy that one little section where
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: he runs into the girl there's a very pervy little
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: moment there where he's just looking at her and he
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: touches her hair just like what what's going on here
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: yeah i don't remember that in the book i'm not
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: sure what they're putting out there like was that just
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: standard operating procedure like did people just get that weird
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: and hands-on with kids i know i was like i'm
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: trying to decide if it's something different in a time
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: or is it something that they were putting in there
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: that these were kind of creepy but but otherwise he
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: wasn't played as a creepy character the rest of his
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: character was a very normal kind of helpful to the
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: plot explaining things kind of character so why did they
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: bother to give him.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: They just wanted to give him that extra layer of
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: creep so this guy is you know Do not trust him.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: He's distrustful. He's a creep. It's like, yeah, we got that.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: We didn't need the extra. It's just something that, I
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: don't know, maybe they just didn't, they wanted to flush
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: him out, but they didn't.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Who knows? Yeah, it makes sense with the B-Roy, Leroy. Leroy.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Leroy.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: It makes sense with him, but yeah, that guy, it's like,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: I don't even know what the point of that like
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: 10 second little snippet of perviness that they put in there.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: And while we're on that, it's again, half the time,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: the parents are not helping the matter any. Much like
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: we said with the Kingdom of the Spiders girl, why
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: don't you get them a dress that covers their ass?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but I'm like, he would pick her up,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, for God's sakes, put her down.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: We don't need that.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: Or she was putting her roller skates on.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, Jesus, yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Or he sprays her with the hose, and she jumps
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: in the air. I'm like, no, stop, please, for God's sakes.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Grown-up women can wear trashy clothes. We're fine with that,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: but don't put 10-year-olds in trashy clothes.
• 22:26
  Speaker 9: Eight.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: You keep wanting to age her a little.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: I guess I do.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: Does it make it better that she's 10?
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: No, not really, no.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Like in Lolita, how they made her 16, and in
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: the book she's really like 12.
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, seriously.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, well, 16, that's fine.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: It's like an age of consent in some states.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: No, it's terrible.
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: I mean, like 14 in Kentucky.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: I think so.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Give it even more leeway. I don't know.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: I'd check the law books, but I ain't got no
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: reading ability.
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: Shut up.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Ding dang words.
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: And then books got no words.
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: Got troubles. Diagrams, pictures.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, Lord. But I guess for the most part I
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: enjoyed the movie. You seemed miserable the whole time.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: You were sitting there cursing the movie.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, just for obvious reasons that I curse
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: things anyways. But for an older movie I liked it.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: The subject matter I thought was always because I do
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: agree that children are for the most part can be
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: as evil if not more evil than grown-ups because they're
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: innocent and don't have you know especially when their brains
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: are broken when they're born yeah and they don't have
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: a sense of.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Right and wrong like at all they don't understand boundaries.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: There's like something really creepy about that like you know
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the kids in general they can do anything and they
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: don't have you know they don't have this concept of
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Like Lord of the Flies. Yeah, exactly. That's really creepy
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: They haven't understood any level of penalty involved. They really
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: are just free to do whatever they want, and what's
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: going to happen to you?
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: But your mother didn't help in this situation. I thought
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: when she found out the truth that she would kind
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: of be more like... shit like okay no she's like
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: no really what are we gonna do to cover this
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: up like burn the shoes like oh come.
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: On like what would you do if your child was
• 24:15
  Speaker 9: evil would you turn them over.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: If it was your child.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: If it was my child i'd definitely have that parental
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: you know that internal struggle of doing the right thing
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: number one and being completely devastated because this is my
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: child this is my seed and it is bad like
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: i'd feel shitty for myself i'd feel like it was
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: my fault definitely And especially at that point, it's kind
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: of like, I don't.
• 24:36
  Speaker 12: Know who I am.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: Is it really your fault?
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: No, it's not really your fault, especially when it's genetics,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: but you have no choice but to feel like it is.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: As a parent, definitely. I'm not a parent, so I
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: can only, you know, conjecture. I don't know what I
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: would feel, but I think I would like to feel
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: like this.
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: That's why I don't have kids. They would be evil,
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: and I'd have to poison them.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: See, I would like to avoid that whole thing.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: That would be good.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Well, it's good. See, I would take my crazy child
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: and then train them with a set of rules to
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: kill other people that I think are fitting to die.
• 25:11
  Speaker 13: We're going to do it upright.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Like, no joke, I was sitting there thinking, I was like,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: this really has a lot of similarities to what Dexter
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: took from, because they really do have this, like, this
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: decision of what do you do when you realize your
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: child is a murderer, like is insane. And like, that's this,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: this version is like the bad version of just ignore it.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: It'll go away. Help them cover it up. But you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: you've got, you've got the other one where you've got,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: you know, dad's going, okay, there, there is no good
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: side to this. You know, it's already bad. The best,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: the easiest way out is to kill the child now,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: but I don't want to do that because I still
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: love this kid. So what, what's the only way that
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I could, harness this evil and use.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: It for good yeah into something useful.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah so it that i thought it was kind of
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: interesting between the two and i wonder how much you
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: know they actually like drew from this initially because it's
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: at least the basic concept and it also brings in
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: the very much the genetics versus environment level of you.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Know they covered that on an episode of nip tuck
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: okay Well, I mean, it's an interesting concept. Like, one
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: of the doctors on the show, there was, like, a
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: serial killer around, and he was suspected to be the
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: serial killer. And he was adopted, and come to find out,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: he was, like, his birth mother was, like, raped by, like,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: a serial killer, like, rapist. And he was, like, the
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: child from that. So that was their argument. He wasn't
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: the serial killer, but, you know, that was their argument.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: You know, like, this is your.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Your heritage?
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's, I mean, but I don't know.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know that much about genetics. Is it kind
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: of like cancer, like on a genetic level?
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: It's pretty likely you're going to be a homicidal maniac.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: You're predestined to have homicidal maniacal tendencies.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Maniacisms.
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: Maniacisms.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think for the most part, people are
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: a product of their environment, but I've seen like, I
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: have friends with adopted children who are just totally their
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: own personality. I mean, that's any kid, like you watch
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: any kid, you know, they say funny things and they
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: do weird things. You're like, where the fuck did that
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: come from? Like, why do you do that? Like, where
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: do you get that from?
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't know. I mean, I would be more
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: likely at least in, in your normal everyday way of
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: thinking that it would be more environment based and that
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: isn't easier. So to me, it's almost like a, an
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: easy out and especially in this story when they it's
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: not just that she Has bad wiring and goes crazy
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: like I almost believe that story a little more as
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: if like she really did grow up in this perfect
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: little home With that actually being you know her mother
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: and that actually being her grandfather and they come from
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: a perfect little life And then one day she just
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: snaps and starts killing people. I think that's like a
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: still realistic version I think that that's probably still going
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: on out there, too. I I think it's almost an
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: easy out for them to be like, oh, you were adopted. Oh,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: and guess what? Your mother killed people.
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: And so.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, but again, maybe that's all based in fact,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: because that's once again, I was thinking that was tied
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: to the Dexter thing, too. That's also the same thing.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: That's not really his father. He found them in the
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: middle of a murder scene like they did in this
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: story and then took him. But I mean, it's then
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: drawing on that, you know, if your parents, yeah, if
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: your parents are crazy, you know, you've got this crazy
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: little kid. So, yeah. What do you find a kid
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: and what do you do with it?
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: Why did it skip Christine then? Skip generation. The crazy
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: is just every other generation.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Because she was a product of
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: that exact same environment. She grew up well-to-do, and she
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: had a successful father, and a mother, I'm assuming. She
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: didn't kill people. And she grew up almost perfect. She's
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: like the June Cleaver in this story. I mean, everything
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: is freaking perfect in her little life. So... Yeah, it makes,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: it almost makes no sense when you put those two together.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: If both of them were exposed to the exact same environment,
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: and they have the same genetics, then it doesn't even
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: follow suit in this point.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, and she's not like this now, but,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, like, I was terrified of this child when
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: I was, I mean, not when she was, like, first born, but, like,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: my cousins had a baby, and they're perfectly fine parents,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: you know, they have a lot of money, and, you know,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: they have four kids, and they're fine, but, like, Their
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: second daughter, when she was like... And I think, luckily,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: it was just a phase that she went through. She
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: just had no concept of right and wrong.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: No.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: And she was evil. I mean, she was evil. She
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: like would grab the cat by his tail. She would
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: like kick the cat for fun and just laugh. And like,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: she was bad. She's not like that now, but you
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: could just like, see, she had no, you could just
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: watch her. She had no concept of like, She just
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: didn't give a fuck.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I have one of those in my family that just
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: recently were dealing with that situation.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: At one point, it's like, do the parents need to
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: step in and be like, kicking the cat is bad?
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Well, they were, but she just did not matter. And
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: she's grown out of that. Luckily, it was just a phase,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: but it was just weird to watch. I was like,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I don't really, you know, you hurt something, you feel it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, you don't like. physically feel it but you
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: understand that you're hurting and.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Very quickly you should even as a kid when you
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: see something in pain and you realize you just caused
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: that there is some sort of empathy that's like oh
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: god yeah but yeah you could.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Just tell there was no connection yeah but she's grown
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: out of that luckily but We.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Were dealing with that with one of the children in
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: my family. It was an issue with a dog. A
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: lot of unremorseful pain caused? I don't know. So, yeah,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: it's like you just have to wonder what is it
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: that's in your head when you're a kid and how
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: is it? Is it environment that then changes it? And
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: you really, if the parent is there.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's a factor of all that stuff.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, that's kind of what I took from it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: It's like it's a big mesh of everything where it
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: is part environment, it is part genetics, it is part
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: just the way your brain is wired.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Some kids are just born bad. Some people just are
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: born bad, broken, chemical deficient, whatever you want to say.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, some people never learned that. You know, kicking
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: the cat's bad. Causing pain's bad. Some people don't.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: And that's, I think, the only thing that explains this
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: little scenario is that it was a mixture of, okay,
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: she's got bad genetics in her line, but it's just
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: the wiring of the way you come out. Mom came
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: out and was fine. Next one out wasn't quite so fine. So...
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: And I think it is just a mixture of everything.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: And then environment can help, but not always. I mean,
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: there's equally as many, you know, lying, cheating, murdering people
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: in the old well-to-do families as there are in the streets. So,
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: you know, I think that it's sort of a tax bracket. Yeah,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: it's like a crutch, really. It's like what you use
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: when you need an easy answer is, oh, it was
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: their environment. They grew up in that. But I'm like, well,
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: some of that can be that.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, definitely.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: And not in all cases, but, you know, it's just like,
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: if you think about poor people stealing and killing and
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: of course this isn't always true there's ruthless killers no
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: matter how much money you make but like it's almost
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: it's almost always worse like in higher class societies because
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: it's so conniving and like yeah meditating it's very cold
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: like yeah that's what makes it worse i think i
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: mean you know like i mean yeah.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Usually in any other you know, situation. It's like crimes
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: of passion or like, you know, I didn't mean to,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: and you fell on the gun. And, but yeah, when it's,
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: when it's always, when you hear about the stories in
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: the high, you know, super, super tax brackets.
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: It was planned out and they could give a rat's
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: ass after they're gone. It's, It's very detached families where
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: I think maybe that comes with the society. Maybe, you know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: you end up being closer to people that, you know,
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: that's all you have is your family. You live in
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: this little apartment and that's all you have versus, you know,
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: you never see each other at the other wing of
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: the house.
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: So that may be.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Part of it.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know nothing about no rich people.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: Join the club. I paid with lunch at a pocket
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: change today.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love doing that.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: But, you know, I mean, like... I have an ex-boyfriend
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: who was adopted, and his parents were really cold. They
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: treated him like he was a bad seed. I think
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: he was a weird child, and they were like, Stay
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: away from this one. He's broken. Basically just treated him
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: like shit his whole life. They were cold, did not
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: give a fuck about him.
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: Kind of weird.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: I just don't think, not specifically rich people, but I
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: just think socially you're different.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah but i think that's not a secret but i
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: think all levels take place you know i think all
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: the behaviors take place on all levels of that you
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: know it's like there's there's equally as messed up things
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: going on on every level it doesn't make it worse
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: in the rich either i mean there's horrible horrible things
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: going on and in the lower ends i mean it
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: it I don't know. In the end, I think environment
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: plays a part, but at the same time, I don't
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: think it's, I don't think it levels anything out. I
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: think you're equally as likely. I think it's more, you know,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: probably on, on your wiring than anything else. Then, then
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: just the way your brain comes out, that genetics ties
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: in and environment ties in. But I think in the end,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: it's just how you came out and some people are
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: just evil. Yeah.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, hopefully that won't be my children. Karma has a
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: bitch of a way of coming back around. God, please, no.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of psychoanalysis talk in this one.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: A lot of babble.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: A whole lot of it. And I think it was
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: just that, I think, is something of the time period.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, definitely.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Because I think it was just, you know, that whole,
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: you know, level of psychoanalyzing stuff had been around for
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: a long time before that. But I think that was just,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: you know, the 50s and 60s was the point when
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: it started to, like, work its way into normal mainstream society. Like, just,
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: you know, snippets of it. Just enough that you could,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: you know, build a movie around it. Because they also,
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: you remember that, like, the last scene in Psycho where
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: they just give this whole little... babble of you know
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: why you know Norman Bates turns out like this and
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: then they throw in a few technical terms and you
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: know that's really all they needed was just enough to
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: cover oh and that's why it was crazy so.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: You know one thing I like about this movie it
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: really felt like a Hitchcock movie almost just the subject
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: matter but it wasn't it was like I.
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: Feel more drawn out than he should be.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: He's a lot tighter.
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: He's got that shit-together type.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: He would have been a tight box.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but still, the subject was just so dark. I mean,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: it was the darkest... movie i can recall especially because.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: It's so shiny and bright yeah you know that just
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: like emphasized how dark it was yeah.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: I'm always amazed at how much you know again we
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: always think back to that time period and even before
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: as being pretty happy at least a society that sort
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: of duped themselves into thinking everything's pretty well you know
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: well-rounded and.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Happy they wanted everything to look new and.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Everything was sort of you know let's have a happy
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: little life but but still so much of the entertainment
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: was based like that i mean you look at like
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: these kind of movies and even like you know alfred
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: hitchcock presents was on tv every week and like there's
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: some grim stories on there and a lot of the
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: other like shows that were popular at that time it's
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: like people especially at that time i think just found
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: this weird fascination with you know i guess murder mystery
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: novels have always been around.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: But i guess people always have people.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Just kind of like that but it is weird that
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: like as twisted as this story becomes, I mean, it's
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: creepy enough having a child that murders people. But again,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: if we're going to get into the end here in
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: a minute, by the time your mother is killing the
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: daughter and shooting herself, damn, that's a dark ending.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: And probably where, especially when it wasn't probably where it
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: should have been.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: And we'll get back to that in a minute.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I also felt that, uh, it was what twilight zone
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: was it with a kid, uh, It was a monster
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: that could do anything it wanted. Yeah, that's kind of
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: what I felt also, was that there was a little
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: bit of that in there also.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: I was kind of thinking Twilight Zone. There's a lot
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: of creepy Twilight Zones that sort of cross over into
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: the scary murders.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when it dealt with children.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: And that is i mean it is convincing on that
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: level like there's by the time mom starts to realize
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: that and you realize she's like scared that that kid's
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: gonna walk in the room and i'm like she's eight
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: years old and you're like frightened to death of this
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: little girl that's kind of i mean that is you
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: know impressive for them to make it that convincing that
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: she's scared she's gonna walk in the room and see
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: her and it's over.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Here what she was planning or whatever you.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Know And again, I think most of that's the performance.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: I think it's Patty McCormick. I think she does a
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: good job because hers is almost layered more than I
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: would give most actors credit. Because I think when you
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: first start watching it, you're like, man, this kid is
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: a cheesy actor.
• 38:00
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: And then you realize it's, but not even that. It's like,
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: it's almost like layered to the point of she's overdoing
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: it to the point where she knows she's overdoing it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: And she's like overcompensating because then you see her with
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: like Leroy. She's not like that. She's an entirely different
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: person when she's around him and she doesn't have to
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: put that bullshit act on.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Don't want to talk to nobody smart, huh?
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Like to talk to people she can fool like a
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: mama and Mrs. Breedlove and Mr.
• 38:26
  Speaker 14: Emery.
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: There's some Excelsior for you.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: You talk silly all the time.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: I know what you do with the Excelsior.
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: You made a bed of Excelsior down the basement behind
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: that old furnace.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: And you sleep there where nobody can see you.
• 38:45
  Speaker 11: I've been way behind at times here too far. But
• 38:49
  Speaker 11: now I got your number, miss.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I've been hearing things about you that ain't nice.
• 38:55
  Speaker 11: I've been hearing you beat up that poor little Claude
• 38:57
  Speaker 11: Daigle boy in the woods, and it took all three
• 38:58
  Speaker 11: of the Fern sisters to put you off him.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: I heard you run him off the wharf.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: He was that scared.
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: If you tell lies like that, you won't go to
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: heaven when you die.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: I heard plenty.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: I listen when people talk.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Not like you, gab, gab, gabbling all the time, wondering
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: nobody get a word in edgewise.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: That's why I know what people are saying, and you don't.
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: People tell lies all the time, but I think you
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: tell them more than anybody else.
• 39:22
  Speaker 11: I know what you've done to that little boy when
• 39:24
  Speaker 11: he got him out of that wharf. You better listen
• 39:26
  Speaker 11: to me if you want to stay out.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Of bad trouble.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: What did I do?
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: Do if he knows so much?
• 39:31
  Speaker 11: You pick up a stick and you hit him with it.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: You hit him with it because he wouldn't give you
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: that medal like.
• 39:37
  Speaker 14: You told him to.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: I give that, I mean, most adults couldn't pull that off.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: That kid really sort of comprehended the whole like levels
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: of what she was doing and just how much she
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: was like snowing people and i think the most interesting
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: is the way she would use like affection to try
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: to get her out of uncomfortable situations yeah and it
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: became very apparent like by the end of it but
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: even like that very first time like she she started
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: questioning her about the the metal or the the incident
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: down at the water and like all of a sudden
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: she like snapped and was just like switch gears yeah
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: she immediately i love you Not even that. It was like, oh,
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: it was the stupid, you know, if I give you
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: a basket of like, and most people would be duped
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: into that, you know, in the beginning. And most people were,
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: you know, but it's funny just how much she sort
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: of used that to her advantage, being the devious little
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Mayan that she was, that she would continually, anytime she
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: got into a situation that was uncomfortable, they would always
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: make her go for that little, my mommy's so pretty.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: And yeah.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: I think I like the best about her. I'm sorry.
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: I just jumped right in.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: It was just like, as soon as she had got
• 40:42
  Speaker 9: her way, just that smirk.
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: She would have, that look in her eye. It was
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: just like, oh, that evil, comedic little brat. Oh, my God,
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: this is why I hate kids.
• 40:51
  Speaker 9: But, you know, that was the most impressive part to
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: me of her performance, was that she could pull off
• 40:55
  Speaker 9: that overdramatic, cheesy bullshit, and then you could see that
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: little evil smirk.
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: Like, oh, I got what I wanted.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: And I won, you know.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: And it was all about such petty bullshit. Like, not
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: even just, I mean, the medal was almost more of, like,
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: a stature thing or, like, you know, I earned that.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: She felt like she was robbed of it. But all
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: the other things she killed people over were such stupid.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: No, because, I mean, what's, I don't think it was.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think initially it was, but in the
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: end she just wanted the medal, you know? Having the
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: metal doesn't mean you have the best penmanship. It's just
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: having the metal.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: But I'm talking about the other, like the... The lady
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: with the bulb. The backstory with that little... Glass ball
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: with the fish in it. Yeah, the fish globe thing
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: that she... This stupid little trinket that she wanted. She
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: killed that old lady for. And then they're already setting up.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: She's going to kill the landlady for her bird.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Birds are fucking horrible pets. Why would you kill her
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: for a bird?
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: That wasn't in the book.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: No. I like that, though, because it shows, like, at
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: that point, it's kind of like, maybe you could imagine that,
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: and especially if this was a really sappy movie, it
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: could have been like, okay, mom lives, she got rid
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: of the only other guy who ever knew she killed anybody,
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: she's got it out of her system, she's going to
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: be okay from here on out, and mom's going to live,
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: and they're all going to have a happy little life.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: A lot of movies could have played it that way,
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: especially at that time period.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: But I think this one, I give it credit because...
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: even after you know the situation you know summed itself
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: up the guy was out of the picture nobody was
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: going to know she did it they were already setting
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: it up it's like it's not out of her system
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: she's evil she's already planning the next murder she is evil.
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: Next hit as long as somebody has something she wants
• 42:30
  Speaker 9: they're going to be in danger because there's even in
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: the in the book there's a line where because there's
• 42:33
  Speaker 9: another neighbor in the book that there's not in the
• 42:35
  Speaker 9: movie at all that she spends a lot of time
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: with i guess it's like her new older best friend
• 42:38
  Speaker 9: or whatever they hang out and have dinner a lot
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: of the times And after her mom kind of realizes, hey,
• 42:43
  Speaker 9: what's going on?
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: She kind of like warns the kid. I'm like, she's like,
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: you're not going to do anything. I can send you.
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: You'll be okay, right? She's like. oh, don't worry, she
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: doesn't have anything I want.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:54
  Speaker 9: So that lady is safe, and it's because she has
• 42:57
  Speaker 9: nothing that the little kid wants aside from, you know,
• 42:59
  Speaker 9: worshipping the little kid and telling her how good she
• 43:01
  Speaker 9: is all the time.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: See, that's even more, like, detestable. Like, at least, like,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: killing him was to cover up, you know, it was
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: protecting herself. It's just, that's basic self-preservation that we're all
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: kind of born with. But by the time she was
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: killing over trinkets and birds and bullshit, I'm just like, oh,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: this kid needs to die.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Life needs to end.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I think it's funny how influential this movie is. I mean,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: I remember seeing John Waters a few years ago, and
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: he said this shaped his childhood. I mean, it's a
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: movie that I don't think a lot of people have watched.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's pretty well known, but... I think it influences,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: you know, like we were talking Dexter, like probably influenced
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Dexter on a certain level. And I just don't think,
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I think so many people are familiar with this story
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: and this idea, but don't really know where it came from.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: I think it's like the reference thing. It's like everybody
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: gets the reference, the bad scene.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: But it's like the good son.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: But it's one of those.
• 43:55
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, as much of a geek as I am,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: this was the first time I'd watched this, which surprised me.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: I kept thinking, I was like, I've seen this at
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: some point, right? And then I started watching it, and
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: I was like, no, I've not seen any of this.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: I was really obsessed with it in high school for
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: some reason, and I watched it in high school, but
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think I got to the end.
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: You didn't get to the end of the movie.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: The hell are you saying?
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: I fell asleep.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Hell no.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, to be fair, that night, I think, this
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: was before DVDs were popular. And I lived next to
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: a Hollywood video. I rented Metropolis.
• 44:25
  Speaker 11: Nice.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: And The Bad Seed and watched Metropolis and fell asleep
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: during The Bad Seed. So, oh, my God.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: You made it through Metropolis.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: That was very impressive. Because Metropolis is, you know, you
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: don't even have dialogue to suck you in on that.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, I was like 16.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: I mean. It's visually amazing. But, yeah, it's not like
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: the most action packed, especially, you know.
• 44:43
  Speaker 9: I wasn't saying anything bad. I'm just saying that's how
• 44:45
  Speaker 9: most of your geek week activities end.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: I didn't even go into all the movies that I
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: fell asleep during, like UHF and The Birbs and Rachel
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Getting Married and several other movies that I can't remember
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: because I fell asleep the minute I turned them off.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised there hasn't been a direct remake of this.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Actually, because I said that last week I was checking,
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: I was like, I thought at some point they had,
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: and then I looked it up and there wasn't. I
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: was like, oh, no, there wasn't. Then this week I double-checked,
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: there is a TV remake.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: There was a 1985 version that was, let's see, it
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: had Blair Brown and Lynn Redgrave, David Carradine. So, yeah,
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: I'm assuming.
• 45:24
  Speaker 9: But aside from remakes in general, how many movies have
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: been just like this where they have the kid being
• 45:28
  Speaker 9: the evil, either from... Being possessed by a demon or
• 45:31
  Speaker 9: the spawn of demons.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, even the omen.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Remember the orphan?
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: The omen, the orphan, I mean.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: The good son.
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: The good son. I mean, just in general, how many
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: movies have banked on kids being evil?
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: It's a popular thing.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: But, you know, it's kind of funny because if you
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: think about, when was this book written?
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: I don't remember.
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: I mean, I would assume before the 50s.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the movie's 56. I don't know.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: I didn't read all the details.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: It's a ways back.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, I just wonder if it was written
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: at the same time that, like, Lord of the Flies was.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Because if so, then that was just, like, a weird
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: popular theme, you know, like.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Kids going crazy.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like, kids having, like, an innate sense of evil and, like, wrongdoing. Just.
• 46:10
  Speaker 9: And not being able to know the difference, you know,
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: without right and wrong, because it's not in their brain
• 46:14
  Speaker 9: that way.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I mean. Her thing, she was almost
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: like seemingly unaware of her evil. Like when she would
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: just be like, oh, well, he's the one that died,
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: not me.
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I wouldn't even have thought to her.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Or at the end when she was like, you know,
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: why would I want to tell and get killed? Like
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: she realizes all of the consequences. It's like her brain
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: has developed enough that she knows everything that's going on.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: But there really is no like concept of... right and
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: wrong to it it's just she's very intelligent but there's
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: no like wisdom that has come along with it she
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: doesn't understand consequences or guilt or anything it's i don't
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: know and then her little coping with it it's like
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: she almost all those things are pre-programmed her little sweetness
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: bullshit it's like she snaps into it when she needs
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: it yeah it's i don't know i mean again i
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: think she does she is the reason to watch this
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: i think her performance really and and i mean it
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: screwed up her career basically From that point on, yeah,
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: she got very typecast and had a hard time finding
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: screen roles. I don't know, maybe on the stage, maybe
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: it was different. But yeah, I'd heard it kind of
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: messed up her career as a movie actress.
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: Messed up her career, but never messed up those braids, I'll.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: Tell you that right now. I like that we were
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: deciding maybe that was part of the problem. Her braids
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: were pulled too tight. She just made her fucking crazy.
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: It'll happen, dude.
• 47:30
  Speaker 9: My grandma used to braid my hair pretty fucking tight,
• 47:32
  Speaker 9: and that was really bitchy those days.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Mom, can I take my hair? Shut up.
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: You can't yank that shit. What are you talking about?
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: I'm going to kill you. Those days. Yeah, those days.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: I'm serious.
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: You're going to see me then. I'm nice now.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: Fuck.
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: I'm all sugar and sweet shit.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: That's very convincing.
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: Sugar and spice and all.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: Puppy dog tails.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: One thing I don't know, was this based on a
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: true story of some sorts? I know, obviously, Nick Cave
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: and the Bad Seeds was influenced by this movie, and
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: they have that song, Curse of Millhaven, and it's almost like,
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: it's not exactly the same, but it's very similar.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: It's like if she went unchecked, basically, because it starts
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: off as seemingly slow as this one, but yeah, if
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: you let her run rampant, this is what would happen
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: if that was your town.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: But I mean, it could have... It could have been
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: the same girl, pretty much. I mean, the song was
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: basically about her.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: Well, that's, yeah, if you listen to the song, she's
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: a little older. So this is basically, this is the
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: infancy of her craziness, and then, yeah, you give her
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: a couple years, and this is what happens.
• 48:46
  Speaker 9: In the book, it goes more into her grandma's details,
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: and you see how she went along her path, and
• 48:51
  Speaker 9: all the people she went through, and how she didn't
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: get caught for so long. So it's just kind of
• 48:54
  Speaker 9: like leading up to, is she going to have the
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: same run? And then her mom, when she starts learning
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: all this, she's like, Is my daughter going to be
• 49:01
  Speaker 9: on the run like my mother was? And that's why
• 49:03
  Speaker 9: she eventually does what she does. But in the book,
• 49:07
  Speaker 9: her mom gets the electric chairs.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: It must have been a pink one.
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: Yes, the pink one.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: Girls get pink electric chairs.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just wasn't sure if it was based
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: on a true story because, you know, like in that song, there's...
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: so many events and there's a town and, you know,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: all this stuff about it. So I didn't know if
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: it was like a true story.
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: I don't know. It didn't make any reference to it
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: being true in the book.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: I'm sure somewhere in history something like this has happened somewhere.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Probably even worse in reality.
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: I mean, there have been many cases in the real world.
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: I've not heard of that many of that young that
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: do it, but you hear of teenagers all the time
• 49:44
  Speaker 9: snapping and killing people over stupid shit like video games. Yeah.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it's based on some terrible story that he
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: heard and went, how about if I just make a
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: whole book out of this?
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: I think the music is kind of cool. I think
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: that tied in a lot with the Hitchcock references, too.
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: I don't think there was enough music.
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: There was a lot of scenes where I was like,
• 50:03
  Speaker 9: just give me some kind of music here, and maybe
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: it won't be so drawn-out feeling.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Well, there were some orchestrated, like, a little slower music
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: for their little happy family scenes, but the few key moments,
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: it worked in more tense, you know, Bernard Herrmann-esque kind
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: of stuff when she started to piece together the really
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: scary parts of this little kid, but... The piano is
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: a lot. It's almost overwhelming by the time they work
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: in the piano craziness that starts, like, assaulting the mother.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: And then I do like them working it back in
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: towards the end of the movie.
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: I thought the.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: Again, probably could have used more, but the times when
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: it was, like, tense music I thought was kind of cool.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: One thing I was confused about, so she tried to
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: kill her daughter and shot herself. Are they just going
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: to let her out of the hospital and, like, go
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: back to live with her daughter?
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: Like.
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: Sure.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Would that really, like, happen?
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: Again, in the 50s, probably.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right?
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: I'm sure they just covered that kind of showed up
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: all the time and were like, well, you work for
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: the military, right? Oh, you're fine then. You got him.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: You take him from here. You make sure this doesn't
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: happen again now.
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: Maybe.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, if you, like, slap your kid nowadays,
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: they're like, you'll never see this child again.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm sure today this would be a very different story. But, yeah, 56,
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: they would have been like, you stay out of here.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: Don't you try to kill that kid again.
• 51:16
  Speaker 9: How fast did she get, you know, if you're going to...
• 51:19
  Speaker 9: Go to that big of an ordeal to kill your
• 51:21
  Speaker 9: kid and then kill yourself. Shouldn't you make sure your
• 51:23
  Speaker 9: kid's actually dead first? I mean, don't half-ass that shit.
• 51:26
  Speaker 9: Make sure the kid's, I mean, I'm not trying to
• 51:27
  Speaker 9: advocate it.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: No.
• 51:29
  Speaker 9: I'm just saying if it was a situation and you
• 51:33
  Speaker 9: were that worried about your kid growing up to be
• 51:35
  Speaker 9: that evil and to continue on doing what they're doing
• 51:37
  Speaker 9: and you're that set on what you're.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Going to do.
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: I can do it right.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: That's the thing. I mean, among the two there, you know,
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: the evil one is the kid. The kid needs to
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: be the one she makes sure is dead. She should
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: have shot the kid and taken some sleeping pills or something.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, like if she was really worried about protecting
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: the world from this evil.
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: At least just make sure the kid's dead before she
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: shoots herself. Oh, she's, she's halfway going.
• 52:01
  Speaker 9: She's, almost maybe asleep i'll go ahead and you know
• 52:04
  Speaker 9: off myself or.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: If they had enough if they just both would have
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: taken the pills yeah then i mean the only reason
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: the kid lives is because she uses the gun and
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: alerts the people in the building that she just shot
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: herself so they come save the kid so yeah if
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: she would have quietly offed herself.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Everyone just would have went to sleep and never woken up.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: She could have just slashed her wrist or something. Don't
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: anybody think that I'm advocating?
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: The movie would have been about not 10 minutes short.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: Not saying it's cool to kill yourself. I'm just saying,
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: if you've got a strategy, think it out.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: I saw Wrist Cutters. It's totally cool.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Actually, the movie was not.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: As good as it should have been. But we won't
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: go into that.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: We will on a different episode.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: In the book, she does give her kid the pills,
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: but in the book, she fucking offs herself okay. The
• 52:46
  Speaker 9: kid's all right.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: See, that's, yeah, do we want to go ahead and
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: get to the end? I think that's about where I
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: have it for the rest of the movie. So, yeah,
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: the end offers a lot of different things to go into.
• 52:57
  Speaker 9: In the book, like I said, she shoots herself, they run,
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: they save the kid, she's fucking dead, so whatever for her.
• 53:04
  Speaker 9: But then they're in the hospital, and that's the end.
• 53:06
  Speaker 9: They're getting the kid out of the hospital, the end, da-da-da-da-da.
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: Kid, evil, whatever. And that's it.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: The EOC goes on.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: But do you know why it's different? I figured they
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: would make some sort of changes, because for some reason,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: I think they always changed the book.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Too much of a down note?
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: No, see, that's the thing. I mean, to me, it
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: almost should have ended that way. Well, I mean, if
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: it would have ended the way that the mom planned it,
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: it would have been a really creepy, dark movie, but
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: it would have been okay, and it wouldn't have screwed
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: things up. Maybe it's because, because in the book, the kid,
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: they bring the kid back in the book, right?
• 53:38
  Speaker 12: Mm-hmm.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: The kid's alive. The kid's fine. Okay, that's where the
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: problem comes in, because this is 1956, the Hays Code.
• 53:43
  Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: The Hays Code won't let you show someone... It won't
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: allow crime to pay. So basically, the person.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: You can't be unpunished for your crime.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the person doing bad things can't get away with it.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: And the kid living means she gets away with it.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: But what about the mom?
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: She tried to kill the kid. Is she not going
• 54:01
  Speaker 6: to get punished? Is she going to be able to
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: go along.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: With her life? I guess taking a bullet in the
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: head is her punishment. I don't know. She didn't do
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: it very well, but whatever. oh i don't know but
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: yeah that that became the reason that they had to
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: add this whole last 10-15 minutes on and have the
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: kid you know survive and then try to go get
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: the medal and then we can get to the very.
• 54:20
  Speaker 9: It's awesome i don't think i laughed so hard i
• 54:23
  Speaker 9: think the special effects for this were amazing.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah but of all things i mean there the.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Wrath of god is yeah awesome coming at.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: The end it's an act of god that takes her
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: out I'm like, there's a lot of ways they could
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: have written that out somewhat normally, I guess.
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: Should we not exactly spoil the exact thing? It says
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: to not talk about it. I didn't know if you
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: wanted to actually.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Don't divulge.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a stern warning at the end of
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: this movie that we weren't supposed to tell you guys about.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, finger-shakin'.
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: There was a lot of finger-shakin' in this movie.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: There was finger-shakin'.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: That was the drunk lady.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: She did a lot of pointin' and finger-shakin'. Even the
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: little girl did some finger-shakin'. Yeah, there's a lot of
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: finger-shakin' in this movie.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: That's how you know it's serious.
• 55:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, to me... It would have
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: made more sense. I mean, even if they just wanted
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: to change it for the sake of, okay, we have
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: to appease the code, to just end it there. And, like,
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: actually have her have killed the kid. Maybe that screws
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: up the whole... I don't know. But, I mean, either way,
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: now she's dead. So it's like.
• 55:17
  Speaker 9: You have a mother killing her child. You don't want
• 55:19
  Speaker 9: to pass that image along. So.
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: But for that time.
• 55:23
  Speaker 11: I guess.
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: I'm like.
• 55:24
  Speaker 9: 56, you don't want that... Oh, you think your kid's evil?
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: Hey, you know what?
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see because of the time, there's no
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: way it could have ended like that.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: I guess.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: But nowadays, because of.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: For me.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it would not be nowadays. I think
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: that would have been a good ending.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: For me, it's more of a poetic ending of, you know,
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: like she sees the evil... She takes the ultimate step of, like,
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: sparing the world of this evil.
• 55:47
  Speaker 9: Sparing not only the world, but her kid from the
• 55:48
  Speaker 9: life she's going to have to live trying to, you know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 9: get away with this shit and trying to hide from
• 55:53
  Speaker 9: people and still getting away with it because she knows
• 55:55
  Speaker 9: there's no way that the kid's going to stop.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: No.
• 55:58
  Speaker 9: The kid's not going to form a conscious magically overnight.
• 56:00
  Speaker 9: The kid's going to be evil forever.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: You've seen her within the span of this week or
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: whenever this takes place that, yeah, she, like... already is
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: finished one covering up another one taking somebody out to
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: protect herself you know I mean this is just within
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: one little incident so it's like yeah she's going to
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: get worse and worse so it It definitely is, you know,
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: I think it's almost would have been, it would have
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: been a very dark, creepy ending, but I think to
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: me it should have just stopped there and that would
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: have been a really cool, sad ending.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: No, especially that's kind of like the flow of the movie.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: It felt like that was the end. And then it
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: just kept going and you're like, wait, what?
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: Well, and just the mood, the whole mood of it
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: is kind of creepy and sad. So for me, it
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: ending that way wasn't any worse. It was just the outcome,
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: the inevitable outcome of what was going to happen. But
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, they had to find a... loophole through
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: all of these things it's like we want a slightly
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: happier ending but we also need to punish her because
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: she's evil and she needs to be destroyed.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: It's just nature bouncing itself out.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: I guess i mean that's really the only thing you
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: can take from it is that you know she was
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: so evil that the powers that be decided that she
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: needed to be taken out.
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: Do we want to divulge that information we already said.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: It was act of god i mean how much else
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: is there.
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: I don't know it could be a flood it could
• 57:17
  Speaker 9: be a fucking an earthquake gonna fucking come up and
• 57:20
  Speaker 9: swallow our little evil ass.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: I But that's not what happened.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: Well then, triple spoiler alert. Okay, go ahead.
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: Fucking lightning bolt.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: It was awesome. Blew her up in the pier or whatever.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: It was tight as shit.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Exploded the whole area.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Out of nowhere.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: And especially when you just don't see it coming. It's like,
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: she walks down there and she's getting.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: I thought she was going to fall into the pier.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: I thought she was going to collapse. Like it's rickety.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: That's kind of what it felt like was going to happen.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: She was going to fall in. And I was just like,
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: holy shit, where did that come from? Thank you, God.
• 57:57
  Speaker 9: See, first I thought they were taking her to the
• 57:58
  Speaker 9: hospital to kill her mom. Because she was asking questions.
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: She's like, why did I not.
• 58:03
  Speaker 9: Feel good the night mommy tried to kill herself? I'm like, oh,
• 58:07
  Speaker 9: little brat's going to go kill her own mother.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: And again, I wouldn't put it past her.
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: Me neither.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: Once again... At that point, Mom knew her secret, so
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: that would be her way of protecting herself, and then
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: she could live happily with Daddy forever.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Well, you don't know that the get in the medal
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: wasn't just like a stop on the way to the hospital.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: It very well could have been, yeah.
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: See, I figured she'd kill her mom first and get
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: the medal, because then she really did earn it.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: By that time, she thought she had earned it from
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: the get-go. Crazy little bitch. We never got to see
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: her penmanship either.
• 58:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I know.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Could have been a complete shame.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Could have been horrible.
• 58:37
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's why she was going to the hospital. She
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: just wants to be a doctor. She has terrible penmanship.
• 58:42
  Speaker 9: Because technically, her penmanship... is better in the book, but
• 58:45
  Speaker 9: it was because of improvement of penmanship. The boys' penmanship
• 58:48
  Speaker 9: had improved better.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Went from shitty to good, and hers was just good
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: the whole way.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: That's why she was pissed off.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: You don't get no damn medal. See, now if you're
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: basing it on improvements.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: This ain't the bestest, yeah.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: You didn't improve that much.
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: It was supposed to be a medal for the improvement
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: of penmanship.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: Over the years.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: See, Beth was wrong.
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: Hers just started off good, and it stayed good.
• 59:05
  Speaker 9: The little voice apparently was like fucking chicken scratch. And
• 59:09
  Speaker 9: then by the end, it was legible, so he won
• 59:11
  Speaker 9: the award.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: And really, doesn't that kid deserve a medal? You've seen
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: his mother. I mean, Christ. He deserves several medals for
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: living with her.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Morning to the little boy.
• 59:19
  Speaker 9: She was the prettiest girl ever, and he was going
• 59:21
  Speaker 9: to marry her, which I just think is a whole
• 59:22
  Speaker 9: other level of creepy.
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: She was probably doing the little boy a favor.
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: That is very good.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 59:27
  Speaker 6: Oh, Lord.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: Well, we're about done with this anyway, so what's your
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: final take on it?
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Two thumbs up.
• 59:33
  Speaker 12: I loved it.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: I think mostly for the Patty McCormick girl, I think.
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: Mostly for the lightning.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: You love to hate her. You really love to hate her.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: But, I mean, she's so good at it. It'd be
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: different if she was just a snotty little kid. There's
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of little bad kid actors that I would
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: be like, oh, this kid's terrible in it. But she's
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: got this commanding performance. Especially with the Leroy. When she's
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: yelling at him and putting him in his place, she
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: is vicious. She does not mess around.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: She bars her teeth pretty easily.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: Damn. I'm like, little kids, normally that level of just
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: behavior and attitude, you don't even get to that right away.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: So I give her credit for being impressive.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 9: The scene with her and her mom fighting over the shoes,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 9: it was pretty hardcore.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 10: Crazy time.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: It's crazy.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I liked it.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: Definitely. So hopefully we don't have to watch the Eli
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Roth remake.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: What?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: Again, they had it listed on there. I don't know how.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: It's pretty old.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: Whatever.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: I like Eli Roth.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: I don't care what anybody says.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody wants to ramp up the body count.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: The killings.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: That'd be crazy shit. Is this supposed to be coming out?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: It's going to be like Thanksgiving with a little bridge.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: Because I love that movie.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: That would be awesome.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: Thanksgiving.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: No, what was his? Thanksgiving Day or.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving was awesome. Did you ever watch that?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: It's on Netflix. Thanksgiving Day, I think.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: I think that was his bad thing, which he's now
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: supposedly making, too. Supposedly, Eli Roth wanted to do a
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: remake of this and modernize the hell out of it.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: I kind of like Eli Roth.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: I don't care what anybody says.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: I love Cabin Fever.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: It's not something from the 80s that people remember.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's the thing. I will give them, it's
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: been a long time, if you don't count the Made
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: for TV remake, it's been a long time since this
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: movie came out. You could certainly, it would be due
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: for a modernization.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 9: If you picture it now, they would have Elle Fanning
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: as the bad seed.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: Elle Fanning.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say years ago it would have been Dakota,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: but she's too old for that now. Elle's a pretty
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: good actress, too. I'd be okay with that, actually.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: Girl from let the right one in or um.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: No let me in yeah chloe chloe they better hurry
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: up she's getting too old too yeah but she would
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: she would support the pigtails i can see that so
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: yeah definitely all right well with that we will wrap
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: up the bad seed and come back with the rest
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: of the show.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 12: Abused by my lies, I got a bloody switchblade knife
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 12: I stabbed my lover in the back With.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 8: Eyes just as bad as he, full of lust, distrust
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 8: and greed I.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: Wanna hear your bones crack She came to me with love.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: In her eyes Transmuted my brains of sound I turn
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: my head, she better sit there.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: I'm going straight to hell.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: I know it well. Straight to hell.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: Show starts in four minutes.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: You shiver and shake. Quiver and quake when you see.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 9: Kill, baby, kill.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: A man of science baffled by a kind of life
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: he can't understand. A leech fly. Challenged by a kind
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: of death he can't accept.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: Ah!
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: Ah!
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Threatened by a kind of violence he can't fight.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 9: Monica.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: I can't stand it anymore, Paul.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: They're going to kill us all.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: Stop it, Monica.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Get a hold of yourself.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: But they're going to kill us all. I know it, Paul.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: I know it.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: You'll all be killed if you.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: Don't help each other.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: But everyone is too paralyzed by fear to help. So run, doctor, run. Run, girl, run.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: Before that someone, that something, that kill between kill drives
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: you to self-destruction. Keep your eye on the bouncing ball,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: your ear on the mocking laughter.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: Stop!
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: And try not to shiver and shake, quiver and quake,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: when you see kill, baby, kill.
• 1:04:40
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• 1:04:42
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• 1:04:47
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• 1:04:53
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• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: You betcha.
• 1:04:56
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• 1:04:59
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• 1:05:06
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• 1:05:13
  Speaker 13: your problem you know you haven't seen enough movies all
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 13: of life's riddles are answered.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: In the movies and now on with the show.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 8: You say you love me, baby, I don't care Go
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 8: tell someone else I won't be there I could kill it, darling,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 8: how you feel I guess that way you never had
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: to seem real Cause I'm Betsy, yeah, Betsy I said burr.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: It's cold in here.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: I've been doing that like so many times and jay
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 9: has no idea.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: It's cold and fucking toro action you.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: Must be some clovers in the atmosphere.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: All right so we are back and we've got feedback.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Yes yes no yes good or bad uh good good
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: and um a stern warning oh nice.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 9: Am i being warned it's not even for you yes jesus.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: Okay first we'll get to this one and actually roger
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: you've probably got the best chance of pronouncing this right
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: s-a-n-a-e it's japanese oh i don't know either way yeah
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: we have heard from sunny If we're butchering your name,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: please let us know some sort of phonetic way of
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: doing it right. But either way, thank you. I've actually
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: gotten a hold of her. I know she listens to
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: Comedy Film Nerds, and we had Graham Elwood on the show,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: so I met her through that and talked to her.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 9: Hi.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: Told her he was awesome and ridiculous and hilarious and
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: is she hailing from japan she yeah she is uh
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: she's i believe in tokyo but um yeah she uh
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: had talked to her online and just you know told
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: her that we were talking about the fact that he
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: was on our show and then i told her what
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: the episode was if she wanted to hear him you
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: know being crazy and rambling so she went to check
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: that out and then uh i think that was also
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: the one we did pontypool which i then gave her
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: a warning that you know our usual we spoil that
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: a lot of shit warning So her response was, let's see. Hi, Brian.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: She says, love the show. Very geeky and challenging to
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: follow for a foreigner with English as a second language
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: by myself. I'm like, okay, I apologize because it's hard
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: to follow some of this if English is your first language.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: Especially if you're listening to me.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 6: I'm throwing shit out there that don't make no sense.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: I believe we all do.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 6: My English skills done wandered off.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: But yeah, she goes on to say, still loved it.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: I was just fascinated by your geek talk. So it's
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: good to know around the world being appreciated for our geekiness.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: Once again, she says, I love the chemistry among you
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: guys and the way the show is edited. Artisanship.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 9: Nice.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: Which is awesome.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 9: Nice.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: And bonus points for the big words there.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: Ooh, fancy words.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: She says, horror is no longer a genre for me
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: since my geeky friends scared the hell out of me
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: by making me watch too many Argento slash It sucks
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: that they'll never release it in Japan.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know why.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: I brought that up, yeah, when I was like, I
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: didn't know, you know, we go into that, you know,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: just telling her, she's like, yeah, they.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 10: Haven't put it out. I was like, that sucks.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, granted, we had to scam it from Canada, but,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: you know. Eventually, I think they put it out here.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: It just took them forever.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 6: Mine wasn't from Canada.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Yours was in a day.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was on, like, on demand.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: It's not on DVD.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: Originally, though, I think it was on.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: All the Boys Love Mandy Lane is the one we
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: had to get from Canada.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought, I thought maybe Pontypool got.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 7: Major release. I don't remember.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: I did.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 10: Either way.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: But yeah, she ends it with, once again, Misty, I'm
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: telling you, I don't know what it is about you.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: Her last sentence is, please tell Misty that this is true.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: You've got a listener in Japan. awesome so once again
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: i i don't know what it is but you captivate
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: people around the world misty.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 9: I don't want to go that far she's just calling
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 9: out my disbelief people actually listen yeah.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: But once again it's like they're only one person she
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: named by name and it was you so.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 6: I'm special i used to do your short bus velcro shoes.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah really short bus velcro.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 6: Shoes i have a pair of velcro shoes Makes it
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: a lot easier putting them on.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: I know. I love those. They were platform.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 6: Oh, the sound.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: The sound.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: They were platform Velcro tennis shoes.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 6: Oh, wow. Spice Curl shoes?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: Spice Curl shoes.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: Talking 1997 through probably 2000. Actually, I would dare say 2003. Okay.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: Settle down, Baby Spice.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 6: I haven't seen you wear shoes that actually have laces
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: or Velcro in, like, years now.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 11: I know.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: It's been a while.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: That aside, thank you, Sinead. Assuming that we're saying that right.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: Let us know if we're pronouncing it right.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 6: And if you're saying it wrong, just remember, I'm not
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: the one doing it.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: It's all Misty's fault. So, yeah, it is awesome to
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: know that we're getting out there and getting out there
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: to Japan, for God's sake.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: We reach far and wide.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 6: There are many, many other countries.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: That is awesome. Speaking of awesome, we have another message.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: Is it from Randy?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: It is from Randy.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: Misty was scared and then shared it with Randy and
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: then she felt better.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: Well, you don't have to worry because this one is specifically...
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: For Roger? Very specific advice for Roger.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: I need it.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: You probably do. Actually, in this incident, I think you do.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: At least you did a couple weeks ago.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: Is Roger Randy's favorite now?
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Hey guys, this is Randy.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 11: This is the call you shouldn't air. This is the
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 11: call that if you play, spoiler alert, everybody nice... Fast
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 11: forward two minutes where you're not going to hear this
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 11: horrible thing I'm about to say. Roger, this one's for you.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 11: If another man pisses on your car, you do not
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 11: engage in half-assed tomfoolery. You do not bring your feces
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 11: into the issue. I think of your Roger-like ancestors up
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 11: there in Valhalla looking down at you, seeing you crap
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 11: into a baggie and just shaking their heads with shame. No, sir,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 11: that is unacceptable. The only time a man ever uses
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 11: feces against another man is if you're naked, covered in
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 11: somebody's blood, and you have your feces in your hand
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 11: and you're charging them, preferably while holding the entrails of
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 11: their firstborn son in your other hand. Any other time
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 11: is simply inappropriate. No, you don't want to engage in
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 11: some sort of war of attrition with the douchebags next door.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 11: What is called for here is a level of psychological intimidation.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 11: You need to psyop them off the field of battle. Well,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 11: I'm here to tell you how I think you can
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 11: pull that off. Please, God, anybody nice, fast forward now.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: For this task, Roger, you're going to need a pair
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: of rubber gloves.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 11: A caulk gun for, like, caulking windows, a tube of caulk,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 11: a screwdriver, a fuse, and some roadkill. Said roadkill works
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 11: best if the abdominal cavity is intact. That's pretty much
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 11: crucial to this whole planning.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: Stage, is an intact abdomen.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 11: I am not advocating hurting any animal, just saying if
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 11: you find something, it's a way to help biodegrade something
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 11: a little bit quicker. You take Screwy Squirrel, and you
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 11: flip him on his back, and you use the caulk
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 11: gun to seal off all the... Entrances and exits from
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 11: said torso.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: Then, you get the.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 11: Fuse, and with the screwdriver, you jam it up the backside,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 11: being careful to caulk around the opening to keep it closed. Now,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 11: set it out in the sun. Direct sunlight works best.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 11: When the abdomen swells, you've got some methane. Now, this
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 11: isn't going to guarantee a pyrotechnic show, but you should.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: Get a good.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 11: Place said animal on the front seat, light fuse, leave.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 11: Set action will show the level of commitment you have
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 11: to enforcing your own personal boundaries. Note that this act
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 11: may destroy your soul, but I think I can pretty
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 11: much guarantee you some 20-year-old piece of shit isn't going
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 11: to piss.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: On your car door anymore.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 11: Feel free to contact me if you have any questions
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 11: regarding this or any other similar process.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: I'd be glad to help.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 7: Randy, out.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: That just sounds messy.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Randy, I love you.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: That's awesome.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you. And I haven't, I have yet
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: to give any sort of retort, which I'm not going
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: to do. And I thank you for the advice, but
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know if my dedication goes that far.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: Wait, you don't want to finger a dead squirrel?
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Not today. Not for that reason.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: That's just for fun.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: I'm only on special occasions. Oh, is that unusual?
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 10: Oh, sorry.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: Is that what my neighbor keeps trapping? Squirrels and birds
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: and these little traps he has set all over his yard?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: More than likely, yes.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: That's how the serial killers always start.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Hurting small animals.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: Keep that in mind.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: I do wonder, he does sit outside on his porch swing.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: He's like 88 and he goes by Captain? But he
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: sits outside on his porch swing with a shotgun.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: What's wrong with this?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: I know, he's the coolest fucking guy I've ever met.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: I wish he was my granddad.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: I know, me too. And his wife just recently got
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: out of a mental institution. She's in her 80s as well. Nice.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: And every time he sees me, he'll come to the
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: fence and be like, hello, little lady.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 6: I'm like, hello, Captain.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: Catch any squirrels today?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Captain, my Captain.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 10: Oh, wow.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, once again, can't thank you enough, Randy. And
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: your recording and editing skills are getting pretty damn impressive, I.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 7: Have to say.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: So, nice going.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: I feel my pain, definitely.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 9: Awesome.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: Otherwise let's see um that that is it for the
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: feedback and i've also decided and this comes from there's
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: there's many changes going into effect here but one of
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: which is i'm kind of tired of beating a dead
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: horse here so i'm to the point i'm not really
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: asking for responses anymore i every week we get here
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: and whine about it and complain and probably everybody's just
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: sick of hearing that so If we come in, I'll
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: mention them, I'll read them, I'll play them, but I'm
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: not going to put it out there every week and
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: complain that we didn't get anything. I'm probably not even
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: going to post the... The, hey, this is what movie
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: you're watching, call in with your thought. You know, if
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: we don't get your two cents, then too bad. We're
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: pretty self- You've been working without it. Yeah, we're pretty
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: self-reliant on giving what we think is important. And at
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: this point, obviously, that's all we think is important. So
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: we'll just focus on ourselves then. That's what I always do.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Well, that's what we've come to do.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: It's like it just seemed ridiculous that we would sit
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: here and completely do it ourselves week in and week
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: out and then be like, Don't forget, we want to
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: hear from you guys. And then, you know, nobody wants
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: to play along. So that just seems pointless. So we're
• 1:17:04
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• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: talk about whatever the hell we want to talk about.
• 1:17:07
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• 1:17:10
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• 1:17:11
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• 1:17:15
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• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: bitching about it every week, hey, there you go.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: That's why.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: That's why. I'm tired of bitching about it.
• 1:17:23
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• 1:17:26
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• 1:17:29
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• 1:17:31
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• 1:17:37
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• 1:17:43
  Speaker 6: On by, on by, on by.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: Along the adjustments, I guess we can might only throw
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: it out there. There's several things coming soon. Number one
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: is we're heading up on the massively impressive, in our
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: world anyway, the fact that we made it this far.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: We're coming up on the big 100th episode.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: 100th freaking episode.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: Pretty damned.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: God, I put up with you guys for that long.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Pretty damned amazing.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: God, I remember back in the fifth episode.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I can't remember back that far.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: Seventh episode.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 9: In the fifth episode i was taking a nap it.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: Was also in today's episode that was more like hey.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: We all stayed awake i know every single one of us.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Started sleeping until probably around the 50th episode i think.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: No there's not the 50th because you weren't here.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah that's right i didn't start i didn't join
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: to like what the 60th episode last week so I
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: I feel like I've been doing this forever.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 6: Dude, trust me. Don't get anybody.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: And this is part this is part of of the
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: upcoming adjustment as well number one yeah we're coming up
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: on 100 and that's pretty awesome but at that point
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: we're also i'm leaving it the way it is for
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: now in between here and there to give us a
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: nice round hundred of doing things the same way but
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: at 100 i think we're going to turn a corner
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: Some of which is just because... Yeah, it is a milestone,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: but it also gives us a nice round number to
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: turn things on and take a left turn and... Eh,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: not completely a left turn. Just veer a little bit.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 9: Veer.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: Fork off. Fork off a little bit. Why don't y'all
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: just fork off, all right? So, yeah, basically, I don't know.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: Number one, the schedule of recording slash editing is damn
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: near overwhelming. I think the story I was telling you
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: guys was.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: I can only imagine.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: This was last week, and I was like, I got home,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: I started editing the show, I edited the entire day,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: I finished and saved that week's episode, moved the computer
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: over like six inches and went to sleep, and got
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: up the next day and went to work. That was
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: my entire day. I slept next to the fucking laptop.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: It was really sad when I woke up.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: We love your dedication.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: And it's different from waking up next to the laptop
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: after a night of sordid internet porn. No, this was
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: working on editing, for God's sake. Yeah.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 9: You didn't wake up to a badly photoshopped version of
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 9: Kristen Bell on a naked body.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 10: Not that night.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 6: That's what I did every other night.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, that, to me, from that end, it will
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: be good to sort of adjust the scheduling from here
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: on out. But, I mean, one of the options in
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: this past week, I was going through a lot of
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: them because we had a lot of upheaval and drama
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: along that, too. And I was questioning the entire show.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: One of the options was, well, shit, we can just
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: get rid of, you know, that first half and all
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: the other stuff that we do. And the more I
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: thought about it, I was like, no, you know what?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: I like that. That is what the show is. That's
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: part of what we are.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 9: I volunteered to leave so that my incredibly obscene presence
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 9: would no longer be an issue.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: But once again, people around the world are calling to
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: you by name and telling you you need to be here.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: We're trying to find other ways to adjust and make
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: it good for everybody.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 9: Best way to do that is a ball gag because
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 9: I can't stop myself from talking shit about people.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: Hey, what you do with your ball gag at home
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: is up to you. I'm not saying you need to
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: bring it here, though, because we like hearing your mouth off.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: Apparently not everybody.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: Tough luck. They're not here. I'm running the show, damn it.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: See, my problem is I forget that people listen to this. Like,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: I just think I'm talking in a room full of, like,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: four other people.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes you have to keep in mind it's not
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: just four people.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: I can't do that. I can't see those people.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 9: See, I can't do it either.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: I can't watch what I say. I'm not going to
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: edit my opinions.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: Well, and that's the other thing is I don't plan
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: on doing that either. I mean, we've had a lot
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: of different takes on what we've said over the last
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: few weeks, if not the entire hundred episodes. And in
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: the end, I'm just kind of like, this is who
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: we are. This is what we are.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: I'm an offensive bitch. I'm not going to apologize for it.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: But I came to the conclusion that as long as
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: we're okay with what we say and we're willing to
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: stay in mind, I'm fine with that. So if you
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: guys are listening, and that's one of the downfalls of
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: the message boards, is that it doesn't always make it here.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: So that's what I was going to say to the listeners,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: is if you guys have a problem with something that
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: we've said, With the exception of Misty. I think the
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: rest of us are willing to defend what we say.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 6: I can defend what I said.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: But you'll be upset. That's the thing. So it's harder
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: with Misty. Misty, you're going to have to filter it
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: through me. I have to play big brother on this one,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: but I'll do it because that's what it is. It's
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: like I know how... Some of the stuff bothers you,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: so it's coming through me first if you have it,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: so whatever. Well, seriously. Anybody else, though, I think is
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: willing to at least stand behind what they say and
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: defend what they say.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: I stand behind.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: Oh, you will, but I'm just.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 6: I will stand behind what I say.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 9: I don't like my shit getting taken out of context.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: That's what I don't like.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: I will give it to them to personally address. Misty,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: I'll give you the option if you'd like to personally
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: address it. But I think anybody here otherwise is going to...
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: you know, even if no matter how horrible and ridiculous
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: we say, we probably have a reason or we were
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: kidding or we have a text or a tense that
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: we are using then that maybe you're not picking up
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: on or maybe, or maybe we are just being insensitive.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: And I think if you, well, no, if you bring
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: it up to us, maybe it is something that we
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: just didn't think about. And maybe we'll be like, you
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: know what?
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: Maybe I shouldn't do that. You know, maybe I shouldn't
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: have said that. Maybe it is something that needs to
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: be brought to our attention, but we'll never know that
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: if it's just, a post on a forum that, you know,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: I try to get to as much as I can. But,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: you know, if you want to make sure it makes
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: its way to us, send us an email or send us,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: you know, voicemail.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: Straight up, please.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: That's, yeah, that's all I've been saying in all those responses.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: So we'll leave it at that. But as far as
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: the scheduling, yeah, we're going to adjust things in the
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: upcoming weeks. We may spread out the weekly movie party
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: that we have here and readjust the schedule on that.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: So It's definitely still coming at you, maybe not quite
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: as frequently as it has been, but that also will
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: free things up with the editing for me that there's
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: also a lot of other stuff I'd like to do
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: and other movies that we brought up that not everybody
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: wants to talk about. Me.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 9: Me.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 10: Probably Misty.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: Not always, but probably.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 6: Maybe that'll give everybody a little bit more of a
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 6: break from Misty. They can't handle it. It's just too
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 6: much Misty in a month. It's just too much overload, apparently.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: Again, everybody likes it, so I'm trying to find a
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: way for you to be here and for the Misty
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: fans to get their fix. But then when we're getting
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: tangented every week, you know, maybe.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: That's me.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: Well, and we're going to give you the Marlena moment.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: I know, but now.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: That there's this pressure, I don't have any funny stories.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: And that's okay then. We can make it a week
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: without your crazy stories. But if you have them, we're
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: working them in. That's part of it. Again, that's part
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: of what we are as well. And that's half of
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: not taking the first half out. Those crazy tangent stories
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: are what we are.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you guys were just people that
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: I didn't know outside of here, then it wouldn't be
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: so bad. But, I mean, I only talk to you
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: guys once a week, and I want to tell you
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: these funny stories. That's what I do.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: I fully well enjoy the stories. They make me laugh.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: I think they have their place in our show.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: They're more entertaining than half the shit I say. You
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: have some.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: Pretty funny stories too.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: Not as good as yours.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: I just have funny things happen to me.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: You go out and do stuff. I said at home
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: watch TV or choose your own adventure books.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: I did not do anything this week at all. I
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: don't even remember. What was last night?
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: Saturday?
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 6: Saturday?
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: I believe that was yesterday.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah well i don't i don't think i did anything
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: friday i think i went home and went to.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: Sleep that's the sad part i don't do yeah aside
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: from editing the show so that's why i didn't i
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: mean there was a point where i was like midway
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: into the mess that i was like fuck it why
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: am i even doing this but then i realized there
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: is a reason i mean i really do enjoy the
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: show itself and and what we do every week and
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: i think Part of it is kind of important. Not
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: what we're saying, but the fact that we're here every week.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 6: Oh, I know nothing I say is important.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: But I think in a way, I mean, again, for
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: all the.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: I just thought of something really funny. Oh, Jesus. It's
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: a side story. Okay, so.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: Now it's time for a Marlena moment.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you know how hipsters always wear tight jeans
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: and thick glasses and have their hipster beards and their
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: ironic t-shirts? Sometimes it's like a tie-dyed t-shirt with a
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: wolf on it. Well, I met the inspiration for hipsters everywhere. Uh-oh.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: But he was not joking. It was just this regular
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: guy who was very creepy. And I'm a waitress, so
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: I had to wait on him. We almost kicked him
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: out because he kept staring at everyone's butt and just staring.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: But every time I'd walk by, he'd ask me a question.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: And at one point, he stopped me and said, Excuse me, miss.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: And I was like, Yes. He's like, Do you know
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: where scallops come from? I was like, Sea scallops? And
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: he was like, Yes. He's like, You know those big
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: conch shells? That's where they come from. I'm like, fascinating.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: Did not know that. And every time I'd walk by,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: he would, like, have another random tidbit for me. And
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: I'm just like.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 6: Well, it's useful. I mean, he's just trying to help
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: you out. He was very weird.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: Do you know what his name was?
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: I'm beginning to think... Again, it's been a while since
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: we've done a freak show, but there's a guy that
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: fits the bill already. At least by the minor description,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: it also sort of matches up with one of my freaks.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: So I'll have to check the records here.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, I just like... Could not get over the
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: fact that he looks like every hipster ever, you know,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: with their, like, oh, I'm going to grow my beard out.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: It's going to be so hilarious. I'm going to wear
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: this T-shirt that says Father of the Year. It's so
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: funny because I don't actually have any kids.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: That is hilarious.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was that guy, but he was serious. Like,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: there was no irony in his, like.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: There's no irony in his tight pants.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no irony in his tight pants. There is
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: no irony in those thick glasses or that lumberjack beard.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know several of the people that fit the
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: hipster bill, but they are very hipstery, and I'm fully
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: aware of how aware they are. That's what kills me
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: about hipsters.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: I could find ten guys that look just like that,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: but they are like.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: Kidding.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: They're like, look at what I'm wearing.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: They're like, look at this payback. Isn't it so ironic?
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: That's what kills me about hipsters, because there are several
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: that come in where I work, and I'm just like,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: I can almost hear them thinking, are you looking at me?
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: Look at what I'm wearing.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: Look at this Cosby sweater. Isn't it so deliciously ironic?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: Look at my funny hair. My hair's funny. Look at it.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: It's funny. I'm just like, really?
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 6: This guy was for real.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 12: God.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: It's so ridiculous.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: IRL.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: In real life. Please don't use this.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 6: All right, now we're getting the hate mail from the hipsters.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: Please, hipsters, send me your hate mail.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, please.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: Send us your ironically hateful.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: Hate mail.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: But, you know, if you kind of look like a lumberjack.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: They're massively back. If yet.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: If you kind of look like a lumberjack, I might
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: be into that. So something or another.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: Send pictures tomorrow.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 6: You're into Al Borland?
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: Lumberjack.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: What? I mean, Al was a handsome guy, wasn't he?
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: Didn't everybody feel that?
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: Only a family feud.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: He's no Richard Dawson.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for real. He's still whatever that one guy was.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 6: I liked him.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: The dead one.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: It's sad that he's the dead one.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 6: Isn't his name Ray?
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: Ray something or other.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 6: Oh, poor Ray. So sad.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: End of my random tangent there.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: And that has been another Milena moment. I didn't know
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: if you wanted the little ding.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: You want a little ring?
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 9: Oh, no.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: I do like to say that. I like sound effects.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: Random eye blinking sounds.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: Blink.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: Or, like, if someone smiles really big, I like to
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: say ding.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: So we'll definitely have to look that in as you're speaking.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: Oh, Lord.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, that's one of the many adjustments here is
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: just scheduling. But then in the spreading out of our normal,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: you know, movie parties, it will give us a chance
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: to work in other stuff. There are, you know, those
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: movies that we might not do otherwise, that this will
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: give us a chance to do a more condensed version, perhaps.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 6: It'll give you time to miss me.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: There you go. That, too. If you're one of those people.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: Fonder.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: What is it? How does it go?
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: Absence makes the heart go fonder.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, some bullshit like that.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, bullshit like that. So, we will still otherwise keep
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: things coming at a semi-regular pace. I might spread it
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: out so it's not as much coming at that same pace. But,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: you know, you'll still be getting your weekly fix more
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: or less. So, don't you worry. You can't escape. It's
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: that easy. Anything else to add?
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: I'm good. Oh.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: Alrighty.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 6: Now you gotta do the, what's the next two movies?
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: That's another adjustment.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 6: Are we not doing two movies?
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: But we're still doing... Okay, kids, get out your decoder pins.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: For you members of the Secret Circle.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: Interesting. Interesting. Decoder pin makes it weird.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 6: I didn't get the last.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: So, it is time for the Movie Meltdown Secret Circle
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: reveal of possibly the last time of the next two features.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: Because that was another one of those. I'm like, the
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: only reason we started doing all these extra ones and
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: trying to work it out so far in advance... was
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: to get feedback ahead of time. But we really don't
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: get anything. Put that in one movie. I feel like it's...
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: We'll be daredevils.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 6: We'll fucking tear this shit up. We'll do one fucking movie.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: It's like tying our hands when something new comes in
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: and we want to throw it in. It's like, oh,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: we got to put it three weeks out because we
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: already planned so far ahead. Or we just fuck up
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: the list anyway. It's like we tell you next week
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: and then next week it's not next week. Night of
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: the creeps. Night of the creeps got pushed back like
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: a month and a half. So yeah, there's, it seemed
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: kind of pointless doing that too. So we'll tell you
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: what we're planning for next week. I can even throw
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: out some like generalized ones we're working on. If you want,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: if you want like a heads up and then I'm still,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: you know, once again, if you're not following us on
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: Twitter and or Facebook, I'm probably going to put out,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: you know, Hey, this week we're watching this kind of message.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: If you want to watch it at a time and
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: give you a heads up to watch it for the
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: sake of not spoiling something. But yeah, You know, other
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: than the, hey, we're putting it out there for feedback
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: once again.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 7: Eh, whatever.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: So, that having been said, next week's feature is Mystery Team.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 9: I won't be here until I'm here.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: Real nice.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: My name's Brian. I like to escape it.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: It's going to be awesome and you're missing it.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: I would never do anything without friendship like poop my pants.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: That's why you better be here for it.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if I will be or not.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: I'm going to try. But Dracula.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: Dracula-er.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: Come on.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: Dracula. People try to correct me when I say Dracula,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, don't you judge me. I like to
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: say Dracula.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 6: For one of them Draculas, best be killed. See, mine's
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 6: from Squidbillies.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: I say what I want to say.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: Mine's from Grand Adventures of Billy Mayhem. Dracula, don't want
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: to do that. I know.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 6: I get your reference. Look, if you're wrong.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 9: But mine's specifically from Squidbillies because I love... Squidbillies and
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 9: Butt Trouble is one of the funniest episodes ever.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 6: We have the Draculars. He's one of them Draculars. He
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 6: best be.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: That is one of my favorite ones. The one where
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: they all like spring out of it and are circling.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: God, that one's awesome.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 6: Between that one and the Swayze Crazy. I'm not sure
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 6: which one I like best.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: That one's pretty awesome too. Those are both classic. Do it.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 10: Do it.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 6: What you came here to do. Let's take the damn
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 6: tree one time.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: And the following week will, in fact, be our epic
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: 100th episode. Which also, oddly, well, it oddly ties into
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: our Halloween extravaganza. So, you know, I figured that'll be
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: a fun way. It'll be our big.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 6: Are you sitting there shaking your boobies as if that's enough?
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: They're all like, ooh, anyway.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: No, no, I'm just cold. I thought maybe that's what you're...
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: It's like, are you working it?
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 9: It's a little shimmy.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 6: Roger's averting his eyes.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: Working it.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 12: No!
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: It's okay. It's okay.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: No, I'm just cold. I'm... You think you'd cover him
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: up then?
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm sitting on my hands because my hands
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: are cold.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: You're tying it around you like an ascot. I could
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 6: do that.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: Well, my shirt got really stretched out because.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: You had a baby climbing into you.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: Well, my little niece likes to pull on my shirt
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: and she likes to pull on it and try to
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: put her head down. I don't know why she does it.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 4: You don't know why? She was never breastfed. I don't
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: know why. I think it's inborn in all human beings.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 6: The evilness and the breastfeeding.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: They're just attracted to breasts. That's all there is to it.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: Who isn't?
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah. Guys, girls.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 6: Guys, girls.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 4: Everybody kind of likes boobs.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 9: Come on, man.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: My friend at school, his boyfriend, or his longtime partner.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: Throws up when he sees boobs.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: What? Who doesn't like boobs? Even gay guys think boobs
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: are hot. Come on.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: My sister covers her husband's eyes.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: Well, that's because she's weird. Christian. She's super Christian-y, religious-y.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 9: She covered her one-year-old daughter's eyes when a shirtless guy
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 9: was on a commercial.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 10: Oh, my God.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: She needs help.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: Her one-year-old daughter?
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 6: When my niece was born. Covered her eyes.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: She's weird. I'm telling you.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: This poor kid is going to be so sheltered and.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: Oh no, it's going to be backlash. She's going to
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: be such a mess.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 6: She's the daughter of two pastors.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: She's going to be so messed up.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 6: She's the one who went skinny dipping in the baptismal.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: She's going to be slut.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: I'll be the one she calls from jail.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: That's what Aunt Misty's for. Alright, so yes. In this
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: epic 100th episode, it does fall into our Halloween extravaganza. Candy!
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: We know we can't have a Halloween episode without candy.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: I'll eat it until I get sick again, won't I?
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 11: Yes, you will.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: We all will. It's tradition at this point. So to
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: match that, I was also trying to think of a
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 4: good Halloween-y kind of episode. Nice.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 6: While it was cheesy.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: When are we not cheesy on this show?
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 6: Never cheesy.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, speaking of Halloweenies and cheesy, on UHF, Weird Al
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: takes a Twinkie and cuts it open and puts a
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: hot dog in it and covers it in Cheez Whiz.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, we should watch that movie and
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: then have that as our food.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: I don't have to eat it, do I? I eat
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 4: a lot of crap, but damn, even I'm kind of
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: weirded out by that one. But anyway, trying to come
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: up with a cool Halloween-y movie to watch. And one
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: fit the bill specifically, well, for two reasons. Number one,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: its title is Halloween. And number two, I just talked
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: to Tom Adkins. So we're going to watch Halloween 3.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: And we'll have our little snippet with Mr. Tom Atkins
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: on his making of the movie. And then we'll all
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: watch it since it won't throw things off. And even
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: Joanie can watch it.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 4: Even though it would confuse her if she watched any
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: of the other ones because she's still out of the loop.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: But this one is self-contained.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: It's its own story.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: So it won't ruin the series for her. See, I
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 4: was thinking ahead on that.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: She appreciates it.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we discussed this before. It makes no sense to me.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 4: Especially the first one.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: She just saw Aliens the other day.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 4: I know. She's behind.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: Behind the times.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: We'll make her a list.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: I've never seen any Alien movie.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 9: What?
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: What the hell?
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 6: I'm serious. I did one for the show. I guess
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 6: you weren't here yet.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you were slacking. We did Alien already. Aliens.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 4: So we will wrap it up. And the sad part
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: is I already had this song picked out well before
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: Marlena brought it up. So it's sad that we're both
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: that in tune. I mean, I was originally, you know,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: we've got the fact that the man liked this week's
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: story so much he named his band after it. That
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: was pretty obvious. But I was like, well, I'm not
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 4: just going to play a random song by him because
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: that doesn't tie in. And then I was like, well, hell,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: he's got one that almost exactly fits at least the
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: personality of this character this week. So, of course, we're
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  Speaker 4: talking about Mr. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. And
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  Speaker 4: this is The Curse of Millhaven. About a young girl
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  Speaker 4: who is a heartless killer. And also one of my,
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  Speaker 4: I have to say, if not my favorite, one of
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  Speaker 4: my favorite Nick Cave songs.
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  Speaker 9: All right.
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  Speaker 3: And now I'm going to have this damn Nick Cave
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  Speaker 3: song stuck in my head all day.
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  Speaker 6: I've had the Jimmy Ray song stuck in my head.
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  Speaker 3: Are you Jimmy Ray?
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  Speaker 6: Who wants to know?
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  Speaker 4: Superdork.
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  Speaker 9: I love that song. God, that guy was hot.
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  Speaker 4: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next week.
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  Speaker 4: Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, guys.
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  Speaker 5: Bye.
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  Speaker 2: Bye.
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  Speaker 12: I live in a town called Millhaven And it's small
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  Speaker 12: and it's mean and it's cold But if you come
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  Speaker 12: around just as the sun goes down You can watch
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  Speaker 12: the whole thing turn to gold It's around then that
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  Speaker 12: I used to go roaming La la la la, la
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  Speaker 12: la la la Oh God's children, they all gotta die.
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  Speaker 4: My name is Loretta, but I prefer Lottie.
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  Speaker 2: I'm closing in.
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  Speaker 12: On my fifteenth year If you think that you've seen
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  Speaker 12: a pair of eyes mown green Then you sure haven't
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  Speaker 12: seen them around here Well, my hair is a-yeller and
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  Speaker 12: I'm always a-comin' La-la-la-la, la-la-la-la-la My mama told me that
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  Speaker 12: we all got to die You must have heard about
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  Speaker 12: the curse of Mill Haven How lost Christmas Bill Blakey's
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  Speaker 12: little boy didn't come home They found him the next
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  Speaker 12: week up in One Mile Creek With his head bashed
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  Speaker 12: in and his pockets full of stones Well just imagine
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  Speaker 12: all the wailing and moaning La la la la, la
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  Speaker 12: la la la Even Bill Blakey's boy, he had to
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  Speaker 12: die Then Professor O'Rye from Millhaven High Found Neil to
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  Speaker 12: his door, his prizeman and terrier The next day the
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  Speaker 12: old fool brought little Biko to.
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  Speaker 2: School And we all had to watch.
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  Speaker 4: As he buried her Well, here's the eulogy to.
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  Speaker 2: Biko, had all the tears flowin.
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  Speaker 5: La-la-la-la, la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la.
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  Speaker 4: Our little town fell into a state of shock.
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  Speaker 12: A lot of people were saying things that made little sense.
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  Speaker 12: The next thing you know, the head of Handyman Joe
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  Speaker 12: was found in the fountain of the mayor's residence.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if I'll play, can really.
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  Speaker 12: Get a small town going.
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  Speaker 5: La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la.
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  Speaker 12: Even God's children, they have to die.
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  Speaker 4: Then a cruel twist of fate Oh, Mrs.
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  Speaker 12: Colgate Was stabbed but the job was not complete Well,
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  Speaker 12: the last thing she said Before the cops pronounced her
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  Speaker 12: dead Was my killer is Loretta And she lives across
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  Speaker 12: the street Oh, twenty cops burst through my door Without
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  Speaker 12: even phoning La la la la La la la la The.
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  Speaker 9: Young ones and the old ones They all got to die.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, it is I, lighting the curse of Mill Haven
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  Speaker 12: I've struck horror in the heart of this town Like
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  Speaker 12: my eyes ain't green and my hair ain't yellow It's
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  Speaker 12: more like the other way around I got a pretty
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  Speaker 12: little mouth underneath all the foaming.
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  Speaker 5: La la la la, la la la la.
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  Speaker 12: Sooner or later, we all gotta die Since I was
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  Speaker 12: no bigger than a weeble They've been saying I was
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  Speaker 12: evil That a bed was a boot and I'd fit
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  Speaker 12: it That I'm a wicked young lady But I've been
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  Speaker 12: trying hard lately Oh, fuck it, I'm a monster, I
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  Speaker 12: admit it Well, it makes me so mad That my
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  Speaker 12: blood starts a-goin' La-la-la-la, la-la-la-la-la Mama always told me that
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  Speaker 12: we all gotta die Well, yeah, I drowned the Bailey kid,
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  Speaker 12: stabbed Mrs. Colgate, I admit, did the handyman with his
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  Speaker 12: circular saw in his garden shed. But I never crucified
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  Speaker 12: little Biko, that was through junior.
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  Speaker 2: High school cycles.
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  Speaker 4: Stinky Bohun and his friend with a pumpkin-sized head.
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  Speaker 12: I've singed of a lot, now that you've got me going.
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  Speaker 5: La-la-la-la, la-la-la-la.
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  Speaker 12: Oh, God's children have all got to die. And they're
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  Speaker 12: all of the others, all our sisters and brothers You
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  Speaker 12: assume were accidents best forgotten Recall the children who broke
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  Speaker 12: through the ice on Lake Tahoe Everyone assumed a warning
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  Speaker 12: sign that followed them to the bottom Well, they're underneath
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  Speaker 12: the house where I do quite a bit of.
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  Speaker 5: Stowing La la la, la la la la.
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  Speaker 12: Even twenty little children thought they had to die And
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  Speaker 12: the fire in 91 that raised the Bella Vista slum
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  Speaker 12: That was the biggest shit fight this country's ever seen
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  Speaker 12: Insurance companies ruined, landlords gettin' sued All cause of a
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  Speaker 12: wee little girl with a can of gasoline Those flames
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  Speaker 12: really roared when the wind started blowin.
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  Speaker 5: La la la la, la la la.
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  Speaker 12: La Well a rich man and a poor man, they
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  Speaker 12: all gotta die Well I confessed to all these crimes
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  Speaker 12: and they put me on trial I was laughing when
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  Speaker 12: they took me away After the asylum in an old
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  Speaker 12: black Mariah Well it ain't home but you know it's
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  Speaker 12: better than jail It ain't such a bad old place
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  Speaker 12: to have a home in La la la la, la
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  Speaker 12: la la la They all got children, they all gotta
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  Speaker 12: die Now I got shrinks who will not rest with
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  Speaker 12: their endless Rorschach tests I keep telling them that I
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  Speaker 12: think they're up to get me They ask me if
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  Speaker 12: I feel remorse and I answer why I curse There's
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  Speaker 12: so much more I could've done if they'd let me
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  Speaker 12: So it's Rorschach and Prozac and everything is groovy La
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  Speaker 12: la la la, it's la la la la But all
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  Speaker 12: God's children, they all have to die La la la la.
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  Speaker 7: edited by Brian Renfro. featuring contact music performed by Tamara Deering.
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