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The Kenny Report | 6 May · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny.
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  Speaker 2: Report tonight on the Kenny Report, our lying Prime Minister?
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  Speaker 1: Can people ever trust Albo again?
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you the form guide for isis women on
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  Speaker 2: their way with their children for touchdown in Australia tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Why didn't the government stop them? And how many will
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  Speaker 2: be arrested? Pauline Hansen joins me live. Will she run
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  Speaker 2: for a lower House seat or leave Barnaby Joyce to
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  Speaker 2: run that show? Also some biffo on the campaign trial today,
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  Speaker 2: new signals about peace in the Middle East as Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump pauses to work on a deal with the run.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Switzer will unpack that for US.
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  Speaker 2: Plus Esther Kraker in the UK Danika and justin wrangling
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  Speaker 2: about the budget.
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  Speaker 1: Here, let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: I know political lies are so common, the term is
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  Speaker 2: almost a tautology, but there are degrees of political lying.
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  Speaker 2: We all know that to successfully lead a nation there
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  Speaker 2: must be an element of trust between the leaders and
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  Speaker 2: the population. There has to be some connection between words
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  Speaker 2: and actions. And I want to demonstrate why Anthony Albanezi
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  Speaker 2: has a real problem. We know he is weak on
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  Speaker 2: the economy, on security, on calling out Islamists, extremism. He
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  Speaker 2: is always weak, but surely most of the country now
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  Speaker 2: also realizes they can't rely on his word. I mean
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  Speaker 2: it was bad enough all those years ago when as
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  Speaker 2: a minister he pilfered lines from Hollywood.
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  Speaker 3: In Australia, we have serious challenges to solve and we
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  Speaker 3: need serious people to solve them. Unfortunately, Tony Abbott is
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  Speaker 3: not the least bit interested in fixing anything.
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  Speaker 4: We have serious problems to solve and we need serious
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  Speaker 4: people to solve them. And whatever your particular problem is,
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  Speaker 4: I promise you Bob Rumson is not the least bit
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  Speaker 4: in resident solving it.
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  Speaker 3: He's only interested in two things, making a strains afraid
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  Speaker 3: of it and telling them who's to blame for it.
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  Speaker 4: He is interested in two things and two things only,
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  Speaker 4: making you afraid of it and telling you who's a
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  Speaker 4: blame for it.
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  Speaker 2: How does a bloke become Prime Minister? After that embarrassment,
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  Speaker 2: Albot actually admitted that plagiaralism.
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  Speaker 1: He laughed it off as a mistaken Things only got worse.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, Remember he said this stuff to get elected
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  Speaker 2: as Prime minister.
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  Speaker 3: Reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars
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  Speaker 3: falling by two hundred and seventy five dollars per household
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  Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy five dollars a year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, power prices have only gone up and up
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  Speaker 2: and up. Instead of going down two hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 2: five dollars, they've gone up nearly four times that amount.
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  Speaker 2: But Albanize, he didn't admit his lie or broken promise.
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  Speaker 2: He disowned the promise.
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  Speaker 1: To reputexas modeling.
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  Speaker 3: It's reputexas modeling. It's reputexas modeling from that time. It's
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  Speaker 3: reputexas modeling based upon the circumstances at that time.
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  Speaker 2: Since then, the hits have kept coming. Alberanze turned up
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  Speaker 2: at a rally for women against Domestic Violence and he
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  Speaker 2: was called out for lying live on stage.
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  Speaker 3: To be clear, we get asked to speak myself and
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  Speaker 3: Katie and we're told that that was impossible, and that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: I respect the organizers right to do that.
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  Speaker 1: That's a fool out life.
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  Speaker 2: Despite Albanese's protestations, the organizer dug in our.
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  Speaker 5: Prime minister just flood out lied on a national scale
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  Speaker 5: in front of the whole country.
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  Speaker 1: Awkward stuff, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Then there's lots of silly stuff where Albanezi has dared
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  Speaker 2: to deny what all of us have plainly seen and
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  Speaker 2: heard with our own eyes and ears.
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  Speaker 1: Like when he fell off a stage photos with everyone
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  Speaker 1: okay in the middle.
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  Speaker 3: I stepped back one step. I didn't fall off the stage,
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  Speaker 3: just one leg went down, But I was sweet.
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  Speaker 1: Or when he called Grace Tame difficult. Grace Tame difficult.
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  Speaker 3: She has had a difficult life, and that was what
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  Speaker 3: I was referring to.
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  Speaker 2: Alvin Easy seems to have a problem with reality. He
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  Speaker 2: can't handle the truth. He pretends it away and makes
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  Speaker 2: up stories about his imagined reality, like when he turned
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  Speaker 2: up at Lukember Mosque earlier this year.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Heckler's have booed the Prime Minister Anthony Alberizi and
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  Speaker 6: Minister for Home Affairs Tony Burke during an ad celebrate
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  Speaker 6: in Sydney's Southwest.
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  Speaker 7: Out of Here Australia.
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  Speaker 8: About the issues affecting our community.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty nasty stuff, but not in Elbows world.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I've seen some of those reports and they're just
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  Speaker 3: simply not accurate. There were thirty thousand people plus at
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  Speaker 3: Lakember this morning. Overwhelmingly the reception was incredibly positive. I
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  Speaker 3: walked through the crowd to the mosque and not a
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  Speaker 3: single person heckl There were a couple of Heckler's inside.
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  Speaker 3: They were dealt with.
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  Speaker 2: These tool stories are more than just amusing for us all.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about dangerous delusion on major national issues. In
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  Speaker 2: the wake of the country's worst ever terror attack at
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  Speaker 2: a Jewish festival on Bombai Beach last December, the Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister repeatedly rejected growing calls for a royal commission.
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  Speaker 3: The Richardson Review will do that and we'll feed into
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  Speaker 3: the new South Wales Royal Commission. There was no royal
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  Speaker 3: commission called by the Howard government after Port Arthur, there
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  Speaker 3: was no royal commission called by the Abbott government after
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  Speaker 3: the Linked siege, and as the Minister has just said,
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  Speaker 3: the issue there is that royal commissions can be good
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  Speaker 3: at deciding facts. What the Richardson Review will do is
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  Speaker 3: decide facts. Where royal commissions are not as good is
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  Speaker 3: to consider things that are not agreed, where people have
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  Speaker 3: differences of views.
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  Speaker 2: Calls for a royal commission continued from Jewish leaders, political opponents,
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  Speaker 2: sporting legends, but even into January, the PM kept rejecting them.
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  Speaker 8: If a Richardson reviewed Royal commission green current national security
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  Speaker 8: experts through a flyting you recommend a Commonwealth royal commission,
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  Speaker 8: will you change your mind?
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  Speaker 1: Why are you ruling one out together?
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  Speaker 3: Well, we've made our position clear, and I just went
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  Speaker 3: through the four stages, the four elements that we are doing.
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  Speaker 2: Then, on January the eighth, when Albaneze finally caved in
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  Speaker 2: and called a royal commission, he pretended he'd been working
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  Speaker 2: on it all along.
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  Speaker 3: We've also been working through These are recommendations, and the
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  Speaker 3: terms of reference weren't done this morning. They were done
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  Speaker 3: over a long period of time, including with proper consultation
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  Speaker 3: with the community to make sure that we got it right.
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  Speaker 9: So you've been working on the terms of reference for
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  Speaker 9: this federal or commission, just to clarify for some weeks now,
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  Speaker 9: Why not make that clear to people earlier in the process.
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  Speaker 1: Well, for some time?
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  Speaker 3: Well, Michael, in today's twenty four hour media cycle, you
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  Speaker 3: can either allow it to run you or it can
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  Speaker 3: be an orderly considered government.
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  Speaker 1: Just extraordinary, isn't it? Does he really take us all
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  Speaker 1: for fools?
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  Speaker 2: Then? Were there were his promises to get elected and
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  Speaker 2: then get re elected about not restricting negative gearing or
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  Speaker 2: capital gains tax discounts.
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  Speaker 1: The Liberal Party has mashed a few of these together.
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  Speaker 10: I want you to say tonight, categorically negative gearing is
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  Speaker 10: off the table.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's off the table.
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  Speaker 11: Will you guarantee that you won't touch negative gearing and
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  Speaker 11: capital gains tax concessions?
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  Speaker 3: We have no plans to touch it or change negative gearing.
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  Speaker 9: So do you rule out changes to negative hearing if elected?
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  Speaker 1: Yes or not?
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  Speaker 3: I told people we wouldn't make changes. The proofs in
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  Speaker 3: the pudding Andrew. If we're going to make changes, then
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  Speaker 3: why haven't we? So people can see what we've done
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  Speaker 3: right now?
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  Speaker 1: Is negative gearing? Are you going to touch it or not?
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  Speaker 1: Is it changing? We have no plans. Okay, pretty clear,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: And then there was this beauty from last year's election
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  Speaker 2: campaign with The Daily Telegraph's James Doherty. But can you
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  Speaker 2: just be really clear, can you rule out any changes
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  Speaker 2: to negative gearing and capital gains tax?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? How hard is it? For the fiftieth time? So straightforward?
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  Speaker 2: And now with rampant speculation about negative gearing and capital
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  Speaker 2: gains tax changes in next week's budget, speculation the government
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  Speaker 2: has pointedly not denied. Doherty fronted Albanezi again today.
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  Speaker 12: Ago you ruled negative hearing tax or what you said
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  Speaker 12: was the fiftieth time.
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  Speaker 1: Does that mean that you.
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  Speaker 12: Lie fifty times the voters and can at least be
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  Speaker 12: honest to the Australian people that you're going back on
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  Speaker 12: a promise that you may considering that even now you're saying, well,
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  Speaker 12: you're not confirming that these changes will be in the budget.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the budget will be on Tuesday and you'll have
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  Speaker 3: every opportunity. You'll have every opportunity. Your publication has done
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  Speaker 3: things like before and made those comments, and I've seen
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  Speaker 3: similar things. You know, people will have the opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: examine the budget going forward with all of it there,
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  Speaker 3: I can confirm that I maintained the position that the
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  Speaker 3: key to housing policy is supply.
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  Speaker 1: So the key to housing policy is supply. Does that
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  Speaker 1: sound the same as ruling out changes to negative gearing
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  Speaker 1: and capital gains tax?
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  Speaker 2: Just a bizarre diversion, A bit like this side step
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  Speaker 2: that I showed you on Monday.
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  Speaker 10: Comes about integrity, doesn't it? I mean, why would people
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  Speaker 10: believe a promise given on an election campaign?
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  Speaker 3: What you'll see in the budget is a range of
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  Speaker 3: measures that are consistent with the values so that we
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  Speaker 3: took to the election.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's right, the values. Albo didn't take promises to
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  Speaker 2: the election. He took values. Silly us. He makes promises
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  Speaker 2: before the election and changes them to values after the election.
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  Speaker 1: And what kind of values are they?
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  Speaker 2: Your values, my values, Australian values, national values.
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  Speaker 1: No such luck.
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  Speaker 3: It will be a responsible budget that will be consistent
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  Speaker 3: with labor valuers, full of labor values, consistent with labor values,
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  Speaker 3: consistent with labor valuers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, some of us value the truth, Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 2: but that does not The truth does not seem to
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  Speaker 2: be a value that you hold dear, and it certainly
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  Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be a labor value. Last night I
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  Speaker 2: again shared my despair at the Albanese labor government's failure
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  Speaker 2: to tackle anti Semitism and Islamist extremism. But it seems
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  Speaker 2: every day something happens to show that the situation is
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  Speaker 2: even worse than we thought. First up, there's confirmation from
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  Speaker 2: the government today that women who left this country to
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  Speaker 2: support an Islamist caliphate, a bloodthirsty caliphate and ideology that
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  Speaker 2: despises Jews Christians, all non Muslims, despises democracy, a quality
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  Speaker 2: for women, a caliphate and ideology opposed to the very
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  Speaker 2: idea of our country. Well, four of those women are
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  Speaker 2: returning to this free and democratic country with their children.
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  Speaker 8: The government is not repatriating and will not repatriate. The
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  Speaker 8: government is not assisting and will not assist these individuals.
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  Speaker 8: They made an appalling, disgraceful decision. If any of these
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  Speaker 8: individuals find their way back to Australia, if they have
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  Speaker 8: committed crimes, they can expect to face the full force
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  Speaker 8: of the law without exception.
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  Speaker 2: Terrific he the government continues to wipe its hands of
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  Speaker 2: this deeply worrying episode.
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  Speaker 3: We have not provided any assistance, nor will we involved
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  Speaker 3: in those actions of the Syrian government. Were provided no
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  Speaker 3: assistance for these people, were not repatriating them.
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  Speaker 1: Is that another elbow wappa?
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  Speaker 2: I mean the Australian government must have provided passports or
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  Speaker 2: travel documents for these people, otherwise they couldn't return.
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  Speaker 9: And how is it that the government can stand hardly
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  Speaker 9: by while third parties like Tony Burke's good friend Dr
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  Speaker 9: Jamal Riffi and non government organizations go and organize for
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  Speaker 9: the repatriation of these people who have gone to support
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  Speaker 9: the ARSIS terrorist group to come back to Australia.
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  Speaker 2: The arrivals are expected to occur in Sydney and Melbourne tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: arriving into a country reeling at the impact of Islamist
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  Speaker 2: extremism and the violent and deadly targeting of Australian Jews.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, that hateful social media influencer we
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  Speaker 2: highlighted last night Sneako Will after letting him in despite
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  Speaker 2: his anti Semitic rantings, the government has now deported him.
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  Speaker 2: They only seem to act when media calls them to account.
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  Speaker 2: And while this was playing, the Royal Commission into the
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  Speaker 2: Bondai Islamist terror attack was hearing from victims of due
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  Speaker 2: hatred and one man decided to dial up the anti
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  Speaker 2: Semitism on our streets.
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  Speaker 11: Can I not enjoy a latte on a Sydney street?
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  Speaker 1: I have business in town and I wear this all
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  Speaker 1: the time. Do you know that it's illegal to wear
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  Speaker 1: a swastika?
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  Speaker 10: Sorry, it's a legal sticker, clearly a swastika astier.
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  Speaker 1: This explains to when social media what is it? What
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  Speaker 1: is it if it's not.
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  Speaker 11: A swastika, A protest that I can do.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think that is?
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  Speaker 11: Oh, we're talking about the genocide in Gaza, the six
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  Speaker 11: wars that Israel has has performed around the world. I
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  Speaker 11: can't sit by and what's watch this happen?
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  Speaker 7: What does that have to do with a Royal commission
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  Speaker 7: after a Bondie terror attack.
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  Speaker 11: I'm sorry, I'm just I'm enjoying a cup of coffee
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  Speaker 11: in the streets of Sydney. Why I'm being assailed in
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  Speaker 11: such fashion? I have been asked to move on on
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  Speaker 11: a public street. Such is the state of protest in
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  Speaker 11: New South Wales.
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  Speaker 2: After moving on, the sixty eight year old police said
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  Speaker 2: they were inquiring into alleged offensive conduct. He's now been
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  Speaker 2: taken into custody and inquiries continue. When he gets out,
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps he could swap stories with the ISIS brides. Let's
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  Speaker 2: go live now to One Nation founder and leader Pauline
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  Speaker 2: Hanson in Queensland.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Pauline.
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  Speaker 2: Surely allowing people who have voluntarily joined the Islamic Caliphate
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  Speaker 2: under ISIS back into this country poses a security risk.
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  Speaker 13: Of course it does. Chris, I'm really angry, disgusted. I
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  Speaker 13: don't have the words to explain how I feel about this,
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  Speaker 13: and I don't think I think any differently to millions
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  Speaker 13: of other Australians out there, how they feel about this.
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  Speaker 13: I tell people, I am really concerned about their ideology,
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  Speaker 13: their belief. Why they went over there and we've allowed
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  Speaker 13: them back in and it cost about two million dollars
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  Speaker 13: per person to actually look after them for their security,
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  Speaker 13: national security for the rest of life. I got to
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  Speaker 13: tell you the won't beginning jobs and then they're own children.
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  Speaker 1: On top of it.
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  Speaker 13: We are fools, absolutely fools. I wouldn't have them anywhere
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  Speaker 13: near this place. The government had to give passports to them.
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  Speaker 13: You know, why didn't they not give them passports? They
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  Speaker 13: say you can't displace them if they're Australian citizens. I
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  Speaker 13: haven't even been told. Have they got dual citizenship? Could
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  Speaker 13: be you know, are they only Australian citizens. It is
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  Speaker 13: disgusting what's happening. And I can't stand the ideology, their belief.
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  Speaker 13: They hate Jews, they hate Christians, they hate our Western
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  Speaker 13: culture and this is going to be packed on us
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  Speaker 13: in generations come and I'll tell you nothing too. This
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  Speaker 13: is a win for these radicals in this country to
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  Speaker 13: have these women brought back into Australia. It is a
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  Speaker 13: win for them and it's a loss for Australia.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to disagree with any of that, because when
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  Speaker 2: you listen to the Australian Federal Police, clearly there are
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  Speaker 2: security concerns.
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  Speaker 7: Some individuals will be arrested and charged, some will face
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  Speaker 7: continued investigations when they arrive in Australia, and children who
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  Speaker 7: return in the cohort will be asked to undergo community
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  Speaker 7: integration programs.
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  Speaker 2: So some charged, some are watched by authorities. All this
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  Speaker 2: of course costing tax money. Tax pays a lot of money,
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  Speaker 2: the charges obviously relating to security concerns.
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  Speaker 1: The children who are the victims, and all this.
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  Speaker 2: Innocent victims, we understand that. But of course all of
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  Speaker 2: their care and integration and perhaps even deradicalization will be
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  Speaker 2: at the burden of Australian exposed too.
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  Speaker 13: Of course it will be Chris and they've actually been
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  Speaker 13: working on the silver Water detention center or prison there
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  Speaker 13: to actually house them in that space. Even one of
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  Speaker 13: the fathers of one of these women said, don't bring
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  Speaker 13: it back to Australia. He didn't want his own daughter
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  Speaker 13: back in Australia. He understands not only these kids have
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  Speaker 13: been these radicalized in these camps as well. You will
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  Speaker 13: never be able to trust these people. I don't care
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  Speaker 13: how many do goods are out there think they can
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  Speaker 13: change them and bring them back into society. You will
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  Speaker 13: never be able to do that with these people because
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  Speaker 13: you will always be fearful of them. And I think
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  Speaker 13: that main strands out there, if they're put in the
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  Speaker 13: educational system, will they ever trust them, will believe them?
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  Speaker 13: Until we root out the evil of this Islamic ideology
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  Speaker 13: in this country, we're going to end up like Britain, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany,
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  Speaker 13: you name it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is what worries me so greatly about this
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  Speaker 2: because we're all concerned about humanitarian issues people who are now.
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  Speaker 1: Stateless in Syria and the rest of it. But our
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  Speaker 1: greatest security threat in this country is Islamist extremism.
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  Speaker 2: We've had fifteen Australians shot dead on Bondai Beach just
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  Speaker 2: in December. We need governments to tackle the extremists, and
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  Speaker 2: they're letting in four adults who were part of ISIS now.
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  Speaker 2: If you listen to asioh they're trying to assuage or
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  Speaker 2: reassure the public. But it just points to how concerning
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  Speaker 2: this is. Is the ASIO director general, so.
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  Speaker 14: Our job is to identify and understand the risks that
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  Speaker 14: returning individuals. We have done that, We provided it to
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  Speaker 14: our mates in the police force, and the government understands
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  Speaker 14: our assessed risk. I'm not concerned immediately by their return,
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  Speaker 14: but they will get our attention as you'd expect.
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  Speaker 2: They've assessed the risk, they've made assessments, they've passed it on.
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  Speaker 1: The police are arresting some people.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, ASIO also assessed the two men, one who
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  Speaker 2: was dead and one who is allegedly a government at
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  Speaker 2: Bondai assessed them and didn't follow up on them as well.
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  Speaker 1: We're all supposed to be relaxed and comfortable about this.
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  Speaker 13: Now you're eighteen thousand people on AZURE watch lists and
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  Speaker 13: I don't know who those people are or for what
• 21:09
  Speaker 13: reason they're on the watch list. The fact is we
• 21:11
  Speaker 13: don't know who these people are, and actually they're under
• 21:14
  Speaker 13: resourced AZIA to actually track and keep an eye on
• 21:17
  Speaker 13: these people.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: We've seen this.
• 21:18
  Speaker 13: Happen around the world. What happens now We're at four
• 21:20
  Speaker 13: percent of Muslims in the country, about a million people.
• 21:23
  Speaker 13: I'm not saying all Muslims the radicals by no means,
• 21:26
  Speaker 13: and please don't take me the wrong way, but we
• 21:29
  Speaker 13: actually have to be mindful of where we bring these
• 21:31
  Speaker 13: people in from and which countries. And we've seen this
• 21:35
  Speaker 13: happen constantly all the time around the world. So once
• 21:38
  Speaker 13: they get numbers here, then they empower themselves into local,
• 21:42
  Speaker 13: state and federal governments. They take over suburbs. We have
• 21:45
  Speaker 13: been inundated now with those ones that are breeding in
• 21:48
  Speaker 13: the country. We're paying for them to have their kids here.
• 21:51
  Speaker 13: We're actually got Sharia law. It's happening, building of mosques.
• 21:54
  Speaker 13: It just constantly goes on and on, and Australian to
• 21:57
  Speaker 13: sit back and say, oh, well, what's your problem. There
• 22:01
  Speaker 13: is a big problem. And if you don't open up
• 22:03
  Speaker 13: your eyes to see what the hell is happening in
• 22:05
  Speaker 13: our country and learn from other countries and the mistakes
• 22:09
  Speaker 13: that they've made and welcoming these people, you're going to
• 22:12
  Speaker 13: suffer the consequences in time to come. And that's what
• 22:14
  Speaker 13: I've got to say about the matter.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Chris Well.
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  Speaker 2: People will say you're too harsh, people will say you're
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: too strong on this stuff. But my biggest problem is
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: the government won't even talk about it. This is a
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: real issue. It requires real attention. We have a government
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: who will do nothing about it. They won't even mouth
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: the words Islamist extremism. They're letting in hate preachers into
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: this country until the media flags them and then they
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: deport them.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: And now they're letting.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: In the isis of women, and Lord knows what sort
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: of beliefs they're bringing back into this country. We'll stay
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: on it, Pauline, but I do need to move on
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: to other things. I want to get onto the pharaoh
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: by election. And I want to show you some footage
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: from liberal Senator James Patterson when he was campaigning in
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Aubury today.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: You might not have seen this, but he got into.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: A bit of argie bargie with the One Nation campaign
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: staff a lot.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: That's how a lady. I don't think it's I think
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: it's all he's a ship skied. Let it go around.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Absolutely scared.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Are you getting a video mate? Video me without my body?
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Your name, by the way, what's your name?
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: Man?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: You know what my name is? Say what's your name?
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Walk away? That's the sault. You're justlar you. I had
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: never solved anyone. Did you describe grab.
• 23:36
  Speaker 14: Your phone because you don't have permission a video.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: It's a public place. You're aligned, that's an assault, mate.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: You're aligned to seek for men and you're utilizing as
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: a definition.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: You're responsible for your conduct, mate, conduct. Yeah, what you've
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: done is you've done yourself. That's good job mine. Okay,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I should just correct myself.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I think I said one Nation campaign staff and more
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: likely I don't know, but more likely campaign volunteer.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I would have thought. But your response to that behavior, he.
• 24:08
  Speaker 13: Was we've actually spoken directly to David Farley with regards
• 24:13
  Speaker 13: to this. He's actually he phoned up James Patterson to
• 24:17
  Speaker 13: make sure he was okay.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Yes he was.
• 24:19
  Speaker 13: He wasn't engine in anyway. But we apologize too for
• 24:24
  Speaker 13: what happened, and we've assisted said we'll make every assistance
• 24:28
  Speaker 13: possible if you want to undertaken and police investigation. That
• 24:31
  Speaker 13: will encourage our volunteers who witness it to make their statements.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a statement here from David Farley. He's
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: the one Nation Pharah can did it. He says that
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: he's referred to the incident involving his volunteer with the
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Liberal Senator. He reaffirms his commitment to respectful behavior and
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: inclusive participation in democratic processes. He condemns in the strongest
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: terms this aggression on the campaign trail, and he won't
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: hesit take to act when.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Made aware of bad behavior.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: And yes, we'll cooperate fully if there's a police investigation.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: But the point is the volunteer is readily identifiable, Pauline Hanson.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Has he been expelled from the party or chastised in
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: any way, Chris.
• 25:16
  Speaker 13: It's only just been brought to my attention, only ten
• 25:18
  Speaker 13: minutes from coming on to your program, So that's when
• 25:20
  Speaker 13: I was made aware of it. He was dismissed and
• 25:23
  Speaker 13: sent him straight away immediately. That's all I know of
• 25:26
  Speaker 13: the circumstances at the moment. So anyway, I don't know
• 25:29
  Speaker 13: even if he is a member of the party, he's
• 25:31
  Speaker 13: a volunteer that's working there on the booth. We don't
• 25:34
  Speaker 13: condone this sort of behavior by no means. And you know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 13: people should be able to move freely about without any violence.
• 25:41
  Speaker 13: And anyone you know of that behavior, you know, no
• 25:45
  Speaker 13: one likes it. It happens across all political parties, Chris.
• 25:49
  Speaker 13: We've seen this before and palling these and so we
• 25:52
  Speaker 13: don't condone that sort of behavior.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: All right, just quickly, I've got to get you on
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: this potential shift to the lower House.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: And of course, if your polling holds up, it's just
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: taking a bit of a tick backwards in the last.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Poll, but it's still very high.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: If you were to get a clutch of Lower House seats,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: you'd want to be there where the action is rather
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: than have that run by Barnaby Joyce while you're stuck
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: up in the Senate.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: But it's a big risk for you.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: So you're not going to clear your hand, are you too, Chris,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: so much closer to the time.
• 26:22
  Speaker 13: Chris, Actually, I only just spoke to James Ashby the
• 26:26
  Speaker 13: day that he said it on Sky that night, which
• 26:29
  Speaker 13: I wasn't terribly impressed about. Anyway, I said, I'll make
• 26:32
  Speaker 13: the decision when I finally give it further thought and
• 26:35
  Speaker 13: closer to the election. So anyway, I'm not going to
• 26:38
  Speaker 13: give you an exclusive where which seat I might decide
• 26:41
  Speaker 13: to stand in what my movements are, but it is
• 26:44
  Speaker 13: in the mix. It is consideration, and yes, if we
• 26:48
  Speaker 13: do happen to be in with the coalition, and government
• 26:52
  Speaker 13: or giving them supply and confidence. I'd like to be
• 26:54
  Speaker 13: a part of it because it does happen in the
• 26:56
  Speaker 13: Lower House, and if Barnaby's there right beside me he
• 26:59
  Speaker 13: does contesta seat of New England again, we'd make a
• 27:03
  Speaker 13: great team in the Lower House.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: It's going to be one to watch.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Paul an you feel free to drop the exclusive on
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: here anytime you like, rather than just exclusive Arji. Barji
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: will have an exclusive story at some stage.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Paul Enhanson. They're live from Queensland.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: We're going to get to a break after the break
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: news signs of peace in the Middle East. Donald Trump
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: pausing military operations to work on a deal with Iran.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Tom Switzer will join me. Well, there are fresh hopes
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: of a peace deal between the US and Iran. Let's
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: been tentative about all that, but Donald Trump has been
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: pausing Project Freedom, the operation to escort ships through the
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Hulmas Strait. Writing on Truth Social the President says, based
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: on the request of Pakistan and other countries, we have
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: mutually agreed that while the blockade will remain in four
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: force and effect, Project Freedom will be paused for a
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: short period to see whether or not the agreement can
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: be finalized and signed.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Let's bring in.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Tom Switzer columnists with the Australian joining me in the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: studio again, Tom se we go through the roundabout with
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: this story every week, peace deals breaking out of hostilities.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: The last few days have been hot again in the parlance,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: haven't they.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: So this is a welcome deal.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: They're stepping back from military operations, so to speak, and
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: getting back to the talking.
• 28:32
  Speaker 15: My senses is that President Trump is very frustrated. You know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 15: he believes, not unreasonably, that the US has made some
• 28:41
  Speaker 15: successful gains in smashing the Iranian military power. But the
• 28:47
  Speaker 15: coldhart reality is that the Iranians effectively control the straight
• 28:51
  Speaker 15: of full moves and there's no evidence that Tehran will
• 28:54
  Speaker 15: relinquish that control. And moreover, there's no real evidence that
• 28:59
  Speaker 15: we can tell that the Iranians are prepared to make
• 29:01
  Speaker 15: the necessary concessions on uranium enrichment that will satisfy President
• 29:06
  Speaker 15: Trump's demands for a piece deal.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: You can't help but think, when you look at the
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: way Trump runs this operation, that he doesn't understand Iran.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: And to understand Iran, you really have to comprehend that
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: you can't understand it. I mean, he looks he's looking
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: for them to make rational decisions. You know, if you
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: want your economy and your society and to get to
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: get back together again, to get on a prosperous path,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: and you want trade again.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Then you would take this deal, right.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: But he doesn't understand that they don't really care so
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: much about that. There are other aims that they are
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: committed to, well beyond the prosperity of their people.
• 29:44
  Speaker 15: From Tehran's perspective, they genuinely feel they face an existential
• 29:48
  Speaker 15: threat from not just the United States but Israel, and
• 29:51
  Speaker 15: the regime will go to great links to fight for
• 29:53
  Speaker 15: its survival. So they don't want to make those kind
• 29:56
  Speaker 15: of compromises, particularly given that from their perspective, again, they've
• 30:00
  Speaker 15: been bombed not just once but twice during negotiations. So
• 30:04
  Speaker 15: they see this as an existential threat and that's why
• 30:06
  Speaker 15: the Iranians will play hardble.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's have a listen to something that Donald Trump's
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: had to say about all this.
• 30:13
  Speaker 16: Maybe you want to see a weight flag, but essentially
• 30:16
  Speaker 16: that's already what they're they need. They should wave the
• 30:20
  Speaker 16: weight the flag, the weight flag of surrender.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he wants to surrender essentially that it's
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the nuclear deal. It's the nuclear deal that he's hanging
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: out for, isn't it?
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: It is?
• 30:34
  Speaker 15: And he is threatening to escalate if they don't conform
• 30:37
  Speaker 15: to his expectations. But he's done this on a couple
• 30:40
  Speaker 15: of occasions during the course of the last few weeks.
• 30:44
  Speaker 15: And he even went so far as to say that
• 30:46
  Speaker 15: he would bomb civilian infrastructure and the power plants, but
• 30:50
  Speaker 15: he walks them back. I think he's extremely frustrated. I
• 30:54
  Speaker 15: know analogy is a tricky and the circumstances are different,
• 30:57
  Speaker 15: but it reminds me a bit of LBJ. Lyndon Johnson
• 31:00
  Speaker 15: in nineteen sixty eight, when the Americans kept winning battles
• 31:05
  Speaker 15: against the North Vietnamese communists, but he was still trapped.
• 31:09
  Speaker 15: He couldn't find a way of ending the Vietnam War
• 31:13
  Speaker 15: in a peace that was to America's advantage. And I
• 31:15
  Speaker 15: think Trump's going through that now.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's have a listener to Secretary of War Pete Hegseth.
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: We hope South Korea would step up, just like we
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: hope Japan.
• 31:24
  Speaker 16: Would step up, just like we hope Australia would step up,
• 31:27
  Speaker 16: just like we help Europe steps.
• 31:28
  Speaker 12: Up, but we're not weeding for them to do so,
• 31:30
  Speaker 12: we're looking to set the conditions to hand to them.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: It's on once again, this reference to all these allies,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: including Australia, not having stepped up. But there's no record
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: of any request, there's no public request.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: What are they wanting the allies to do?
• 31:44
  Speaker 15: The United States Navy is by far the most powerful
• 31:48
  Speaker 15: navy in the world, more powerful than the Chinese Communist
• 31:52
  Speaker 15: Parties navy, no question about it. And if the US
• 31:55
  Speaker 15: Navy can't liberate the straight offor moves from Iran's group,
• 32:00
  Speaker 15: you like, how on earth will Britain and France and
• 32:03
  Speaker 15: Australia and South Korea and Japan do so?
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: It would help him to internationalize the conflict they expect.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: But you've got to ask no good complaining about a
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: lack of assistance when there's no request.
• 32:15
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I think that's right. And he's been flummixed by
• 32:18
  Speaker 15: this because if the naval blockade was working as he
• 32:21
  Speaker 15: says it will, why is he now also leaving options
• 32:25
  Speaker 15: open to escalate Now? The sad reality is that the
• 32:29
  Speaker 15: Iranians have the willingness and the capability to retaliate in
• 32:34
  Speaker 15: ways that could impose costs on America's allies like the
• 32:37
  Speaker 15: Sunni Gulf States, but also disrupt crucial waterways, not just
• 32:42
  Speaker 15: through the Straight of hor Moves but also the Red
• 32:45
  Speaker 15: Sea where the Saudi's oil travels.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Just quickly though with the gas prizes as they call
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: them in the US going up, it's all about half
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: the cost of ours, but double what they were paying.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Unpopularity polls showing a Trump disapproval rating at sixty two
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: percent the midterms less than six months away. Domestic politics
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: is playing a big role in his impatience.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Surely all true.
• 33:09
  Speaker 15: But he's betting that the Iran economy, which is reeling
• 33:13
  Speaker 15: from hyperinflation and very you know, they're in a recession,
• 33:17
  Speaker 15: a deep recession, high rock skyrocketing debt. He's hoping that
• 33:22
  Speaker 15: the Muellers will toe the line. But it's a big bet.
• 33:26
  Speaker 15: And in politics, all politics is local.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Right, sure is thanks for joining us again.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Tom somem switched that you can read his stuff in
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the Australia the piece intomorrows and now I think I
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: think he's in the paper tomorrow coming up. I across
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: to Esther Crakerho in the UK is the opposition leader
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: their issues are called to ban pro Palestine marches. As
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I told you yesterday, it was good to see the
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: UK opposition leader, Conservative leader Kemi Badnock showing some moral
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: clarity and spine calling out the vile, false equivalence from
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: the left when it comes to anti Semitism. He's a
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: little bit of that exchange.
• 34:06
  Speaker 17: People who've died and who've been killed were Jewish people
• 34:08
  Speaker 17: in synagogues.
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: Let's stop pretending that something else is happening.
• 34:11
  Speaker 17: What I'm doing is supporting No, no, no, what I'm
• 34:14
  Speaker 17: doing is support your Jewish people from the sort of
• 34:16
  Speaker 17: ignorance people like you put out there. And I will
• 34:18
  Speaker 17: never be intimidated by it.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Now bad Knock hasn't backed the way, She's gone harder
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: and she says it's time to ban pro Palestine marches.
• 34:28
  Speaker 17: Ever, listen, people are using these marches as they cover
• 34:32
  Speaker 17: for anti Semitism, chanting these sorts of slogans, ripping up
• 34:37
  Speaker 17: do you know remember that we're ripping up pictures of
• 34:39
  Speaker 17: baby hostages. Yes, this was all about Jewish hatred, and
• 34:44
  Speaker 17: I think the time has come for us to put
• 34:46
  Speaker 17: a moratorium on it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the UK and bring in writer and
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: broadcaster Esther Cracker.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Good to talk to you again, Esther.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Look, I got to say, it's been fantastic to hear
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: what Canny bad Knock has been saying the last few days.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Is she coming to this light.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Is she ramping up this rhetoric and these arguments just
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: recently or she been strung on this all along.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, she's been fairly consistent that these most of
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: the pro Palestinian marches that we've been seeing following the
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: October seventh massacres have basically just been a cover of
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: finty semis, and you've had Jewish groups around the country saying, listen,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: these are some of our busiest commercial days on Saturdays
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: in particular, and we had to close our shops because
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: we had these protesters basically intimidating, bullying, and in many cases,
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: you know, ripping these posters of hostage children and chanting
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: things that are clearly anti Semitic and meant to intimidate.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: I think the problem that she has now is calling
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: Finn outright ban after we've seen more than two years
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: of this is coming a bit late to the party.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: But it's interesting to see that her finally take a
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: stand on this. I think one thing that's important to
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: remember is freedom of speech is not a very good
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: place in the UK. So while I completely agree that
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: a lot of these marches have just been hate marches,
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: I don't think we've even solved the problem of police
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: turning up to your house because they didn't like a
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: Facebook post you put up. I don't think it's right
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: to have further restrictions on free speech. I think we
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: have to go further than that which is and I
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: think this is pretty basic. Don't import people into your
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: country that come from anti Semitic cultures, that come from
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: cultures where due hatred is normalized. Don't tolerate people that
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: are happy to prisonly say such hateful things on the
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: streets in Britain. Someone count hatefully put the N word
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: up on a post in front of my house. I
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: don't see why British Jews have to tolerate the same
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: level of vile treatment. And I think that's what we're
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: going to get further.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, spot on me, and in many respects, some of
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: these issues are ones that reform have led the charge
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: on in recent years, and so the Conservatives do.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Need to catch up.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: But it's getting back to fundamental conservative values anyway. And
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: I've heard Kemmy Bannarock also, for instance, saying that we
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: have to be robust about saying that not all cultures
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: are equal, that our culture is better than a culture
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: that all stone women to death.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, and I mean we're talking about we've just recently
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: talked about seriously about banning a cousin marriage, not because
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: cousin marriage is something that's normal in British culture, but
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: because there are certain cultures that have been imported into
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: Britain that are marrying their first cousins at such a
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: rate that you're seeing such high levels of infant deformities
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: and congenital illnesses amongst these families that, unfortunately, because the
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: UK has a socialized healthcare system in the form of
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: the NHS, we have to pay for. It's an alien
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: culture that's coming to us, but we are bearing the consequences.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: And just to just to kind of annotate how poorly
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: our current labor government has handled a lot of these situations,
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: the Shimada Muhmood said told the protest is to take
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: a day off. After the stabbing of two Jews and
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: a synagogue in Manchester a few months ago, because she
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: wanted to show that these people can somehow show solidarity.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: Taking a day off when Jews are being targeted is
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: not the same thing as not tolerating hatred towards Jews.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: That's pathetic and tone dea. This is supposed to be
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: our Home Secretary, which just goes to show how out
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: of depth our government is on this issue. It goes
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: way beyond just showing kind of really very basic levels
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: of decency and targeting the hatred.
• 38:14
  Speaker 12: At its route.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we the same problems here. We need to watch
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: and learn from the UK, that's for sure. Now as
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: a bloke, very difficult for me to talk about the
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: impact of women on politics.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I'd be condemned widely. But I don't want to be
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: too binary.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: But you seem to be a woman to me, So
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: talk to me about some of this research that's looking
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: at the impact of women on UK politics.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: So a recent HUGO of polling has shown that if
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: women ages fifteen, eighteen to fifty were to vote explicitly
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: exclusively in the British elections, that the Green Party, which
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: you would be forgiven for mistaking them for a party
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: that actually cared about the environment. And we're just kind
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: of a middle class obsession of yesteryear, no more today
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: they would for the election. And it just shows the
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: extent to which young women in particular have moved further,
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: much further left in their political opinion than men. We
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: always talk about sort of the battle of the sexes
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: and how men are becoming radicalized by the likes of
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Andrew Tate and the far right. Actually research is showing
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: that it's mainly young women that are being pushed much
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: further right, much more quickly. And we've seen this consistently
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: from the New Statesman, publishing researching on this, publishing research
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: on this.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fascinating because again, the same trend is evident here.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're showing here the Greens will dominate.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: We've had the Till movement here, which is effectively a
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: movement pitched at female voters wanted to go from the
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: right to the left, and they've changed politics in some ways.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: And so I don't know, I want to talk more
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: about this, just why this is happening with women while
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: while more men.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Stick with the right side of politics. So thanks for
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: joining us there, sir. I appreciate it's the.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Correctly they're live in London. It is fascinating, isn't that?
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: So many parallels between the trends in British politics and
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: what's that thing here? I hope we learned from their mistakes.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: No sign of it get though.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: After the break, Deneka and Justin will wrangle about the
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: budget and taxes and all the rest of it.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Let's get into the Wednesday wrangle with a late.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Debate co host Deneka de Georgia.
• 40:17
  Speaker 18: Did I call you Danika at the top of this
• 40:19
  Speaker 18: it was I can't believe, I'm sure.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: And Justine Smith in Melbourne. No, Justin Smith joins us
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: again in Melbourne. Now, lots of issues you get onto today,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: But first up, I just want to ask you, Denica,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: whether I was too hard on our about the top
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: of the show. But his lies the just mounting up,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: aren't they?
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I know?
• 40:39
  Speaker 18: You know, if he was Pinocchio, his nose would be
• 40:41
  Speaker 18: down the hallway, you know. And you were so spot
• 40:44
  Speaker 18: on your editorial earlier. And it also reminded me of
• 40:47
  Speaker 18: when he fell off the stage and then the next
• 40:49
  Speaker 18: day he said no, I didn't fall or it was
• 40:51
  Speaker 18: like when he said to us, well, I've been in
• 40:53
  Speaker 18: the car. In the car was on a plane. Does
• 40:56
  Speaker 18: he really think we're that stupid?
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Does that's the problem? Yeah?
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: The days one was in there, he said, I didn't
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: fall off, I just did have got a half a leg.
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: Go.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Honestly, we saw it, mate, we saw it. We thought
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: you've got to tell the truth at some stays.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Now, justin give us your thoughts on the return of
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: ISIS sympathizers from the Middle East.
• 41:17
  Speaker 19: Look, I think there's a couple of things I want
• 41:19
  Speaker 19: to say on this. I think one of the key
• 41:21
  Speaker 19: things here is transparency. If they are going to come
• 41:25
  Speaker 19: back into the country, which indeed they are, and we
• 41:29
  Speaker 19: have the government saying, well, look we're going to make
• 41:32
  Speaker 19: sure that if they've committed any crimes that they are
• 41:35
  Speaker 19: going to get charged. Well, look that's okay, But I
• 41:38
  Speaker 19: think we need incredible transparency here. We need to know
• 41:42
  Speaker 19: how they're being checked out, what agencies are looking into it,
• 41:45
  Speaker 19: and if they're not actually getting charged, why aren't they
• 41:47
  Speaker 19: getting charged, like we sort of need for a situation
• 41:51
  Speaker 19: like this, Maybe we can't stop them coming back into
• 41:54
  Speaker 19: the country, but I think we also need to get
• 41:55
  Speaker 19: full transparency about why if they're not being charged, why not.
• 42:00
  Speaker 19: But I will say this as well. On the flip
• 42:02
  Speaker 19: side of that, there's also a lot of crap that
• 42:05
  Speaker 19: has been flying around about the Isis brides as well,
• 42:10
  Speaker 19: and some of it may be wrong and some of
• 42:12
  Speaker 19: it may be right. But I was listening to Pauline
• 42:14
  Speaker 19: Hanson about half an hour ago on your show talking
• 42:17
  Speaker 19: hard about the Isis brides. Well, I might point out
• 42:20
  Speaker 19: as well that one nation allowed a rapist into the party,
• 42:24
  Speaker 19: and when they were questioned about it, the party said, oh,
• 42:27
  Speaker 19: everyone deserves a second chance here. They've done their time
• 42:31
  Speaker 19: trying to cut you a little bit of crap here.
• 42:33
  Speaker 19: She's an hypocrisy, if But.
• 42:35
  Speaker 18: What is wrong with what she said? Because I listened
• 42:37
  Speaker 18: to that entire interview justin and I was saying to
• 42:39
  Speaker 18: myself out loud, she is absolutely she is spot on
• 42:43
  Speaker 18: in what she says. So what I'm just curious as
• 42:46
  Speaker 18: to what part of that interview that you didn't like?
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: What what part of it?
• 42:51
  Speaker 19: Well, I just said, the hypocrisy is something that concerns me.
• 42:57
  Speaker 19: How much about each one of these brides? What detail
• 43:02
  Speaker 19: does she have on these brides? Just how much does
• 43:05
  Speaker 19: she know?
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Questions?
• 43:07
  Speaker 19: Is she asking about it? Because she's a person, She's
• 43:10
  Speaker 19: a person who says she's a person who comes in
• 43:12
  Speaker 19: and says that someone's done their time and everyone deserves
• 43:15
  Speaker 19: a second chance.
• 43:16
  Speaker 18: Justin These are women who have left this country, this
• 43:19
  Speaker 18: wonderful country, to go overseas and join the death cult.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Does what questions need to be asked? Another story?
• 43:26
  Speaker 18: There's no questions asked. Every single one of these women
• 43:29
  Speaker 18: should be arrested and charged upon arrival because they betrayed us.
• 43:34
  Speaker 18: So again, I'm just not sure what you're saying here,
• 43:37
  Speaker 18: and I don't think that your argument, well, there was
• 43:41
  Speaker 18: listening a rapist, that there was a rapist that was high,
• 43:43
  Speaker 18: what's that got to do with it. We're talking about women.
• 43:45
  Speaker 19: That are not listing. You've been intellectually lazy. You're being
• 43:50
  Speaker 19: intellectually lazy. I'd already said that there needs to be
• 43:54
  Speaker 19: full transparency when they come in. We need to know
• 43:57
  Speaker 19: who has been checking them out, what crimes? You said that, Justine,
• 44:02
  Speaker 19: And if they're not being you said that, then why
• 44:06
  Speaker 19: not you said that, Justine?
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Just let me point what you're trying to say then,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: is criticize Pauline handsOn for saying this because of a
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: bloke who used to work in her office. She's dealt
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: with that. I've argued with her on that program. It's
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: a totally separate issue. It's not related. These people chose
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: to go and fight, and it's a part of a
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: caliphate that was opposed to Australia, that was opposed to
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: everything we stand for.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: And I can't understand. I'm pleased that some are being arrested.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: We don't know how many, but I would be staggered
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: if all four of the adults at least taken into
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: custody for questioning on the basis of what we know already.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: The children different issue.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: We all know that these children are terrible victims, but
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: lord knows they might bring problems of their own. But
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: the adults should be questioned in custody in my view.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Let's get into victims as well. We need to check.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: And they're women. We're not victims.
• 44:54
  Speaker 18: They willingly left this country, Justine. They are not innocent
• 44:57
  Speaker 18: victims in this. They are not. I know they sally left.
• 45:02
  Speaker 18: I know, and you know what. And as for the
• 45:04
  Speaker 18: can I just make a point about the children as well.
• 45:05
  Speaker 18: I'm sorry, I've got no sympathy for them because we
• 45:08
  Speaker 18: don't know what atrocities they have seen. Chris, and we
• 45:11
  Speaker 18: cannot possibly, no, we can't. We cannot have we cannot
• 45:15
  Speaker 18: have another generation of kids who've probably been radicalized over there.
• 45:18
  Speaker 18: I do not think that we can risk it. Our
• 45:20
  Speaker 18: social fiber has already.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: The very issues and be careful.
• 45:27
  Speaker 18: They weren't born there.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: But we've got to get to the budget while we've
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: still got time. Justin we've heard up here and down
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Dale for so long that Labor would not touch negative
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: gearing or capital tax discount arrangements. If they do that
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: in the budget, Just how big a breach of faith
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: is that.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Enormous?
• 45:51
  Speaker 19: And looks it's so stupid, it's politically stupid as well
• 45:54
  Speaker 19: as well as being a lie. It's politically stupid because
• 45:57
  Speaker 19: Albaneze should now excuse me, the Prime Minister should never
• 46:01
  Speaker 19: have gone into that debate and said that he's taking
• 46:03
  Speaker 19: it off the table, because clearly it wasn't taken off
• 46:06
  Speaker 19: the table. And if he has changed his mind and
• 46:09
  Speaker 19: they said, look, which has happened before, John Howard changed
• 46:12
  Speaker 19: his mind on GST, but he took that to an election.
• 46:15
  Speaker 19: So if he has changed his mind about negative gearing,
• 46:18
  Speaker 19: he should wait and take that to an election and
• 46:20
  Speaker 19: say look this is the platform we're going on. You
• 46:22
  Speaker 19: can't go into an election with something as crucial as
• 46:25
  Speaker 19: that and then change your mind down the tracks modom
• 46:28
  Speaker 19: and then not expect to pay on.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: John Howard was the model on this.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: You change your mind, Yeah, but you do it before
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: an election and you give people the choice out the election.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: It doesn't happen unless they put you back in.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: But Janika, the other aspect of this that really rankles
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: me because it deals with your demographic, the younger Australians
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: that Albo was trying to get to vote for him
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: or keep on side. He's suggesting this is a plan
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: to help younger Australians. Pushing rents up and reducing investment
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: in housing will only hurt younger Australians, not to mention
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: all the debt he's leaving them.
• 46:59
  Speaker 18: You know, Chris, the number one thing that I can say,
• 47:01
  Speaker 18: my friends and I talk about is how we're going
• 47:02
  Speaker 18: to enter the housing market. It is such a topical
• 47:05
  Speaker 18: conversation we all want to be able to and the
• 47:08
  Speaker 18: market is so tight, and what people have to understand
• 47:11
  Speaker 18: is with these changes it will actually put rents up.
• 47:14
  Speaker 18: It'll make the housing market even worse than what it is,
• 47:17
  Speaker 18: it'll make investment properties unattractive, and you know what, it's
• 47:20
  Speaker 18: not going to build one single home and we need
• 47:23
  Speaker 18: supply and that is the difference right now. So it's
• 47:27
  Speaker 18: almost like he's pitting boomers against gen y. My generation
• 47:31
  Speaker 18: is hitting us against each other. But we're all going
• 47:34
  Speaker 18: to lose out because he's after retirees and it's not
• 47:37
  Speaker 18: going to help my generation at all.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: What he needs to do is get govern out of
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: the way instead of pretending that government can fix it.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Let's go to social media and have a look at
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: the Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney. She has had a
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: hit out, a lash out at the deep fakes that
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: get around the place now because somebody put this one
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: up on social media suggesting it was her.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: And she's none too impressed.
• 48:03
  Speaker 18: Well, I mean, look, a classy woman, a classy Italian.
• 48:06
  Speaker 18: May I just say, like George and Maloney wouldn't be
• 48:08
  Speaker 18: posing in her lingerie, Let's be honest. She's actually copped
• 48:11
  Speaker 18: a lot of criticism for doing that because people are saying, well,
• 48:14
  Speaker 18: you're drawing attention to it.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: You should never have closed to tell people it's a fake. Exactly.
• 48:18
  Speaker 18: Well, I think that she should tell people that it
• 48:20
  Speaker 18: is a fake. But I'd like to think people would
• 48:22
  Speaker 18: be able to make up their minds. As I said,
• 48:24
  Speaker 18: like a classy Italian woman, she wouldn't do that, would she.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think so, and I'm glad she caught it
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: out because a lot of people thought that might have
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: been her.
• 48:31
  Speaker 18: Well, what if they posted a photo of you, Chris
• 48:33
  Speaker 18: like that? I think that's that's that people could think
• 48:36
  Speaker 18: that's true.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I carefully manage all photos of me in Lingerie.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Don't you worry about that.
• 48:42
  Speaker 19: I'm very pro lingerie, very pro lingerie.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Pro lingerie.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: I didn't think we'd finished the show on Lingerie, but
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: we are just about out of time, So thanks for
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: wringling over Lingerie this week. Janika did Georgio and Justin
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Smith will see you next week. I think we're right
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: out of time. We are, indeed, thanks for joining me.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I'll see to Night for our final pre budget show,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: and Peter Creblin's up next.