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Jaguars Happy Hour | Offseason Wrap, Trevor Lawrence's Progress & 2026 Training Camp Preview · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, June eighteenth. This is Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Hour and now A Guy.
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Who Believes Disclosure Day is a movie about the transfer
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  Speaker 1: portal Jay Check.
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  Speaker 3: It is Jaguars Happy Hour from the Hyundai Studios Test
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  Speaker 3: Drivenue Hunday today only at your local Hyundai dealer. We're
• 0:28
  Speaker 3: at the Miller Electric Center. Here's what's coming up. It
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  Speaker 3: is June eighteenth, Logoman and Lane for the final time.
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  Speaker 3: The off season program is coming to a close, or
• 0:40
  Speaker 3: it's already come to a close. This building is empty.
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  Speaker 3: It's like tumbleweeds going through the hallway here after it
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  Speaker 3: ended yesterday. NFL and Jaguars legends attending practices and meetings.
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  Speaker 3: This week we'll get into some of that and the
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  Speaker 3: reasoning behind some of the changes from head coach Liam
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  Speaker 3: Cohen the last two weeks of the off season program
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  Speaker 3: and now the focus after a few weeks off is
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  Speaker 3: toward training camp at the end of July. We're on
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  Speaker 3: ten next lam Jaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube for the
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  Speaker 3: final time until training camp. It's JP Shadwick with Jeff
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  Speaker 3: Logman and Austin Lane. Gents, good afternoon, How are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: How are we doing? Good? Man, Welcome, Welcome in, Welcome back.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a few weeks Austin.
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  Speaker 4: It's been a little bit. Yeah, I've been all about. Well,
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  Speaker 4: it's got back from the World Cup in Boston. Took
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  Speaker 4: part in that, so that was a good time. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: saw Norway.
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  Speaker 5: How would you how would you compare the atmosphere at
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  Speaker 5: a World Cup game to an NFL.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean obviously the in stadium atmosphere
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  Speaker 4: it was. It was insane because Norway. So it was
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  Speaker 4: Norway and Iraq and Norway it's their first time in
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  Speaker 4: twenty six years making the World Cup and I'm half Norwegian,
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  Speaker 4: so I had to go, you know, you know, celebrate
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  Speaker 4: and represent and everything, and they were They're out there
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  Speaker 4: in full effect. Iraq was also out there in full effect.
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  Speaker 4: Norway win sported one. Like. The atmosphere obviously was crazy
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  Speaker 4: because it was half Norway, half Iraq and then there's
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  Speaker 4: some casuals sprinkled in as well, just wanting to see
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  Speaker 4: a good game. But what really like caught my attention
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  Speaker 4: was after I had to wait two hours for the
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  Speaker 4: train and everybody from Iraq and nor were we getting
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  Speaker 4: together singing songs like just you know, talking shooting the
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  Speaker 4: you know what, like it was that to me is
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  Speaker 4: what like made it so special was all these cultures
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  Speaker 4: coming together and just sharing stories and sharing songs and everything.
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  Speaker 4: Because like in football, you know, if the Jag would
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  Speaker 4: be the Titans, and you know at the field here,
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  Speaker 4: you're not gonna like put your around to a Titans
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  Speaker 4: fan after and sing songs, right, that's probably you probably
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  Speaker 4: had to come to blows. Yeah, it could definitely happen.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody's sober as a judge, Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 6: So well, to be fair, there's a lot of basic,
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  Speaker 6: basic beverages.
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  Speaker 4: Being tossed around us at this game as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but it's just it's a different experience.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 4: It's so cool that when it was over, everyone kind
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  Speaker 4: of got together and was just you know, trying to
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  Speaker 4: drink and be merry, I guess you would say. And
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  Speaker 4: it makes you wonder like if you had this super
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  Speaker 4: Bowl every four years, maybe the stands and be like
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  Speaker 4: that crazy and wild. But obviously with football here, I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I do it year round. So so who what so
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  Speaker 4: normally ended up winning four to one for yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so yeah, I mean that's like the equipment somewhat like
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  Speaker 4: a sixty five nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. Yeah, hey, looking forward to that.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, the next month or so World kept going on,
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  Speaker 3: which was fun to see the summer now that all
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  Speaker 3: these other sports have wound down high. Are you a
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  Speaker 3: World Cup fan? It's on, it's something on, team watching it.
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  Speaker 5: I like watching it, watching everything, you know what. I'm
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  Speaker 5: a casual fan, sure, you know. I mean when it's on,
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  Speaker 5: I actually watch it. Cool, but uh no, I mean
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  Speaker 5: I just can't get into football as much as I
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  Speaker 5: can American football. It's just you know, when I was
• 3:47
  Speaker 5: in grade school, I actually, uh we had a pe period.
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  Speaker 5: I'll never forget it. It was the worst grade I
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  Speaker 5: ever had in school. And I mean, how in the
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  Speaker 5: world is an athlete get it? I actually got an
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  Speaker 5: F in that grading period was what was e It
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  Speaker 5: was during the soccer. It was soccer during that particular
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  Speaker 5: grading period, and there was a test that I completely
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  Speaker 5: forgot about, and so I didn't study. I had no
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  Speaker 5: knowledge of soccer, having never played it, you know, Whereas
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  Speaker 5: if I played soccer, I would have known the rules
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  Speaker 5: and the whole setup.
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  Speaker 2: But but I didn't.
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  Speaker 5: And uh yeah, but I was very sneaky because you know,
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  Speaker 5: I somehow that report card never made it home.
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  Speaker 2: There we go. And you know, back then there were
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  Speaker 2: the report cards.
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  Speaker 5: If the pe one went missing, would you ever even
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  Speaker 5: question your son, who's an athlete, that what happened to?
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  Speaker 2: No, of course, it just you know, no big deal.
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  Speaker 2: He lost it.
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  Speaker 5: Well, the next grading period, all of a sudden, the
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  Speaker 5: carbon copy the previous grading period. I laid the current
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  Speaker 5: one over top of that one and made that fob.
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  Speaker 5: So my parents never knew that I had an f
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  Speaker 5: and until now told them a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 4: But here's what you said that I figured, like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: you're playing soccer and you're too rough with everybody.
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  Speaker 2: You're getting red cards and that's why I got that.
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  Speaker 2: But you're taking tests we have. They actually had fizz ed.
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  Speaker 5: So now we played physical soccer. We actually played a
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  Speaker 5: ton of soccer in the backyard of my buddy Ed's
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  Speaker 5: house because he had chain leak fence dividing the backyards
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  Speaker 5: and from this pole to this pole, that's the goal.
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  Speaker 2: But you had to hit the fence.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know the problem is is that if it
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  Speaker 5: went over the fence, it's out of mount well. And
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  Speaker 5: it was like, what was the name of that movie
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  Speaker 5: with the kids that played baseball and.
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  Speaker 2: The ball remember the dog. I got bit by the
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  Speaker 2: dog over the fence for a soccer ball.
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  Speaker 5: So seriously, I jump over the fence and go get
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  Speaker 5: the soccer ball, throw it and I'm running. I jump
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  Speaker 5: over the fence and oh he got me in the back.
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  Speaker 5: And I had to do like I don't know how
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  Speaker 5: many is like fifteen of those shots beacause of rabies.
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  Speaker 2: The dog getting has raby shot. And you still don't
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  Speaker 2: know what offside is? And I do. Did you have
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  Speaker 2: written tests and fired? I don't remember that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean literally, here's a dodgeball throwing at somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had great We had tests.
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  Speaker 5: I mean football, baseball, soccer, I mean all the international sports.
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  Speaker 5: We had tests on it so that you would understand
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  Speaker 5: the rules.
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  Speaker 2: Huh.
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  Speaker 4: Here, just go right around in this dirt pile for
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  Speaker 4: an hour. Of course, the next period, don't hurt anybody.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody got hurt today. Yeah, it's an A plus three. Don't
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  Speaker 4: drown in the creek. Yeah that's basically fits in our place. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: that's what it was.
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  Speaker 3: Uh hey, there's a whole lot more to that here
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  Speaker 3: at the Jaguars, certainly and this time in your off
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  Speaker 3: season program. Final week of organized team activities this week,
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  Speaker 3: and we talked about it. Liam Cohen kind of switched
• 6:45
  Speaker 3: up the off season program at the end. He moved
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  Speaker 3: the mandatory mini camp a week earlier, and then the
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  Speaker 3: final OTAs of the off season were this week. Usually
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  Speaker 3: the mini camp wraps everything up, and they were thinking
• 6:57
  Speaker 3: about it in the off season. We don't what could
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: kind of mix things up keep guys engage the final
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  Speaker 3: couple weeks. Here's Liam Cohen on the strategy.
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  Speaker 7: I hadn't really it was something that kind of came
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  Speaker 7: up organically over the winter time. I believe just when
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  Speaker 7: we made the decision to swap mini camp dates, that
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  Speaker 7: was kind of when the wheel started churning as to
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  Speaker 7: what what can we do creatively for the last few
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  Speaker 7: days of off season program to where maybe these guys
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  Speaker 7: are going to get somebody else's voice, you know, listening
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  Speaker 7: to and just being around other guys. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 7: once we DeMarcus Werrell be here later, I mean Hall
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  Speaker 7: of Fame pass Rusher. We're trying to improve in areas
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  Speaker 7: in which hopefully that can help provide some of that.
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  Speaker 3: He mentioned one of the names there There's a long
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  Speaker 3: list of names that were here helping the coaching staff
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  Speaker 3: and players this week.
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  Speaker 2: The mccordy twins Devin and Jason were here.
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  Speaker 3: DeMarcus Ware, Hall of Fame pass rusher, AJ Green, Fred Taylor,
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  Speaker 3: Maurice Jones, Drew Mike Waffle, a long time defensive line
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  Speaker 3: coach in the NFL. Alejandro Villanueva, former member of the
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  Speaker 3: US Army and then played tackle for the Steelers. The
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  Speaker 3: Pouncy Twins Marquise and Mike, Corey Lensley formerly of the Packers,
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  Speaker 3: Jimmy Smith, paulp is Leslie, Mercedes Lewis, Benjamin Watson. That's
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  Speaker 3: a long list of guys who've had all kinds of
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  Speaker 3: different levels of success in the NFL.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah that.
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  Speaker 5: I know that if I was a young player and
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  Speaker 5: I had an opportunity to get tutored by DeMarcus Ware,
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  Speaker 5: are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I mean I'd take that any day of the week.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you're talking to Hall of Fame player right there,
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  Speaker 5: who was like one one of the best technicians that
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  Speaker 5: there was as far as pass rush. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: way cool, way cool idea by Liam Cuhen.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this beats the heck out of it going bowling
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  Speaker 4: orly go and play paintball for a team.
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  Speaker 2: About both cool.
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  Speaker 5: I mean they're both cool, but let's do them both buttball.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, end of the day, like become a home much
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  Speaker 6: you get And you bring up a great point like
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  Speaker 6: if I had de Marcus where, you know, at practice
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  Speaker 6: records asking whatever I wanted, I would take full advantage
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  Speaker 6: of that and listen like and I'm sure you have
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  Speaker 6: this too, Jeff, Like you know, they're bringing motivational speakers
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  Speaker 6: to come talk to your team, you know, team bonding
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  Speaker 6: and things like that.
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  Speaker 4: I remember we had we had this free solo guy
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  Speaker 4: in Chicago, the guy that like climbs without any ropes
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  Speaker 4: or anything. He just climbed, uh someplace in China or something,
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  Speaker 4: and he was talking to us like, you know, he's
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  Speaker 4: trying to relate free climbing to football, and it's just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like I get it, you know, put the
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  Speaker 4: work in and everything and have a clean, calm mind.
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  Speaker 4: But like, dude, I'm not going to jump on top
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  Speaker 4: of a building and climb up it without a rope.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to do it regardless, So like, how
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  Speaker 4: can I relate to you? And sometimes you bring in
• 9:42
  Speaker 4: like these you know, Fortune five hundred CEOs talk to
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  Speaker 4: about business like, yeah, it's great man and everything.
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  Speaker 2: But I didn't go to Harvard, right, so like I
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  Speaker 2: can't relate to you either.
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  Speaker 4: But you bring into Marcus where you bringing Rye Jones,
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  Speaker 4: Drew and everything, and they can share their personal experiences
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  Speaker 4: but also teaching that your craft at the same time.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it's a genius.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 5: I was thrilled to see some of the former Jacks's
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  Speaker 5: cool yeah, yeah, which you know, Marcedes Lewis is an
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  Speaker 5: all time Jack sure, I mean all time Jaguar. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: just because he's just one of the best guys that
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  Speaker 5: ever has graced his presence in the buildings here in
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  Speaker 5: Jacksonville with this uniform. He's a tremendous guy. Same thing
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  Speaker 5: with Maurice and fred I mean two great dudes, and
• 10:21
  Speaker 5: and uh and Freddie by the way, I mean Freddy's
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  Speaker 5: in Freddy's tight I mean the new fred Taylor. I
• 10:27
  Speaker 5: haven't seen Freddie in about a about almost a year.
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  Speaker 5: I mean the guys like lost weight, he's been working out,
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  Speaker 5: he's been crushing it. I was like, Freddie, what you've
• 10:37
  Speaker 5: been doing?
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  Speaker 2: Been working out looks good and.
• 10:39
  Speaker 5: Give you a few reps and filling away vote dude
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  Speaker 5: one of the and and from what I understand, one
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  Speaker 5: of the all time good dudes to talk to. And
• 10:48
  Speaker 5: he's got they say, his personality is just effvisent and
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  Speaker 5: uh so a great great person to bring in there,
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  Speaker 5: because it's not like he's a Hall of Famer, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he was just a really good player and came from
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: an army background and because of his personality, that's one
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  Speaker 5: of the reasons why they brought him in. And so,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, what a treat for some of these young
• 11:09
  Speaker 5: players to be able to meet some of these great
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  Speaker 5: former players that all have legitimate reasons for coming in.
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  Speaker 3: I caught up with all the former Jaguars who are in.
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  Speaker 3: We'll here from Mercedes Lewis coming up in just a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. He's part of the Microsoft co pilot, all right,
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  Speaker 3: So we'll get to that a little bit later.
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  Speaker 5: I know, hold on, he's still We'll get to that
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  Speaker 5: maybe just a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But let's hear from Maurice Jones.
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  Speaker 3: Drew Yes back in the building helping out with the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Impressions of this new.
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  Speaker 9: Group, I thought the Jags and Liam and Tony and
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  Speaker 9: everyone did an awesome job of just reaching out to
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  Speaker 9: us to get us back. Uh, you know, give you
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  Speaker 9: a reason to come back. And then the coach and
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  Speaker 9: and do all things and kind of be a part
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  Speaker 9: of it. And it's the energy is awesome. The tinton
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  Speaker 9: of detail is great. I've been with the running backs obviously,
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  Speaker 9: so I'm with coach Morten's. He's done a great job,
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  Speaker 9: really good coach, really focusing.
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  Speaker 7: On the detail.
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  Speaker 9: Hill's challenging the guys to be better and just trying
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  Speaker 9: to give input where I can. But it's it's fun,
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  Speaker 9: you know. I don't I don't know if it's fun
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  Speaker 9: waking up at like six am East Coast time when
• 12:12
  Speaker 9: I'm a West Coast guy, But you know, for the Jags,
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  Speaker 9: I'll do it. So come out here, be in the heat,
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  Speaker 9: enjoy it. Being meetings, you know, brings back some memories
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  Speaker 9: and they see a bunch of old guys too that
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  Speaker 9: I played with or guys that I've known or played against.
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  Speaker 2: Has been awesome as well.
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  Speaker 3: O NFL network works still out on the West coast, Austin,
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  Speaker 3: your teammate of race, So what type of leadership motivation,
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  Speaker 3: what kind of conversation would you expect.
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  Speaker 2: From him if you're a player right now? Coming back?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I mean obviously, when I got to the
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: league in twenty ten, I know who Maurice Jones Drew was.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I played fantasy football and everything. But you know, with.
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  Speaker 4: Maurice, it's he's he's so even keeled and laid back
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  Speaker 4: off the field, right, He's just he's one of the guys.
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  Speaker 4: And then you watch him on the field of how
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  Speaker 4: hard he runs and how hard he plays, and and
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  Speaker 4: that's the eye opening thing, right. And I assume every
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  Speaker 4: guy on that field and that Jaguar's helmet knew exactly
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: wh Maurice Jones Drew was. Then they know what he
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  Speaker 4: brought to the table. And when you talk about just what,
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  Speaker 4: you know what He's probably gonna say to them, it's,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's it's how to be a veteran. It's
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  Speaker 4: it's how to be a veteran. It's how to be
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  Speaker 4: a professional. It's how to carry yourself not only on
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  Speaker 4: the field, but off the field as well, taking care
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  Speaker 4: of yourself.
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: And Reese Jones Jews dependity of that the.
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  Speaker 5: Rolling ball of Butcher, not so the description that he
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  Speaker 5: was given when he was playing, and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he's one of my favorites because Maurice when he was
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  Speaker 5: a player, he was a co host with television shows
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  Speaker 5: that we were doing the very time, and so me
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  Speaker 5: and Maurice worked together for many years, and he asked
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  Speaker 5: a lot of questions and uh, and and it was
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  Speaker 5: great to kind of see him progress to where he's
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  Speaker 5: at today. And had a conversation with him multiple different
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  Speaker 5: times and again the other day and he was saying, Hey, look,
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  Speaker 5: you know I give a lot of credit for where
• 13:52
  Speaker 5: I am to you, he said, because you know, you
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  Speaker 5: were willing to work with me and give me pointers
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  Speaker 5: and and I was like, look, I just love people
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  Speaker 5: that ask questions, you know, and that want to get
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  Speaker 5: better in a lot of different ways. And I think
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: fred And and Mojo were two perfect example of guys
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  Speaker 5: that asked questions, that wanted to get better and took
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  Speaker 5: advantage of opportunities, you know, much like this opportunity that
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  Speaker 5: these guys had this week to be able to have
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  Speaker 5: a mentor come in and to learn from them.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was It's perfect.
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  Speaker 5: And give Liam Con a lot of credit, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: because you know, there's a lot of coaches that have
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  Speaker 5: it would have an insecurity about doing something like this,
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  Speaker 5: and position coaches would have a lot of insecurity for
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: something like this. But Liam's right now, it's like a
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  Speaker 5: parent talking to a kid. I mean sometimes when the
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: parent is in the ear, it's like it sounds like
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  Speaker 5: the teacher and peanuts.
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  Speaker 2: Wah wah wah wah wah wah wah yah.
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  Speaker 5: But then all of a sudden, when a former NFL
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  Speaker 5: player who's one of the great players of all time
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  Speaker 5: says it, all of a sudden, when he starts talking,
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  Speaker 5: it's crystal clear.
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  Speaker 10: You know.
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  Speaker 5: So it was a great, great thing for Liam to
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  Speaker 5: do this, and a great way to really change it
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  Speaker 5: up and to make that last week exciting on top
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  Speaker 5: of crowning the champion of the Iron Jeh.
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  Speaker 2: That's Rueah. They did that too, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And then when it's ten years from now, you'd hope
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  Speaker 4: that you get a much more Jaguars places. They take
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: an all Jaguars thing, right, because then it almost kind
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: of has that that college feel a little bit where
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: all the college veterans come back to their alma maters
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: and they kind of, you know, coach up the young
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: guys on the team and everything, but I think it
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: speaks volumes. We have guys like you know, DeMarcus Ware
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: and AJ Green, I mean AJ Green. I'm sure they
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: loved having Cincinnati, you know, trying to teach their wide
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: receivers and we know they're pretty good already. And the
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: fact that they came here with Liam Cohen, I think
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: that I think that speaks volumes. And I think Liam
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: Cohen and I'm not sure how many teams actually take
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: part in this kind of thing, but I feel like
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: Cohen's kind of at the forefront now. I expect to
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: see more teams start to do this now because it's
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: a copycat league and how could you not benefit from this.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: I think AJ Green had his head on a swivel
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: for Jalen Raandy. Yeah where is this guy? I'm gonna
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: get him again?
• 15:51
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: We're back in a moment, and it's about six weeks
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: until the start of training camp. What is Trevor Lawrence's
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: mindset about being ready for season number six in the
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: National Football League. We'll hear from the quarterback coming up
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: a little later in Mercedes Lewis as well former Jaguars
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: tight end. We're on ten ten Xlam Jaguars dot Com
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: on Jaguars YouTube, it is Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 16:18
  Speaker 10: Continue to build off of what we started here. I
• 16:20
  Speaker 10: know we're gonna be separate and guys are gonna be
• 16:22
  Speaker 10: all over the place, and I think it's an important time. Obviously,
• 16:26
  Speaker 10: it's such a short break, you can't really take time off,
• 16:30
  Speaker 10: in my opinion, you might take a little bit of
• 16:31
  Speaker 10: time off throw in just to kind of reset a
• 16:33
  Speaker 10: little bit, but gonna be back to work pretty much
• 16:36
  Speaker 10: right away. But it's separate, so I think we have
• 16:38
  Speaker 10: more time to work on individual things that we need
• 16:40
  Speaker 10: to work on. For me, footwork, strength, getting in shape,
• 16:43
  Speaker 10: all those things, staying in shape and coming back ready
• 16:46
  Speaker 10: to go in training camp so we can pick back
• 16:48
  Speaker 10: up right where we left off. I think that's the
• 16:50
  Speaker 10: biggest thing is not having to feel like you take
• 16:52
  Speaker 10: a little bit of a step back from OTA's to
• 16:54
  Speaker 10: training camp. You want to hit the ground running, and
• 16:56
  Speaker 10: I'm confident we have a really mature team and guys
• 16:58
  Speaker 10: are gonna be ready.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: As quarterback Trevor Lawrence earlier this week, welcome back, It
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: is Jaguars Happy Hours. AP Shadwick Jeff Logam in Austin
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Lane from the Hondai Studios, Middle of Electric Center, ten
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Tex Lam Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. The quarterback stays
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: ready so he doesn't have to get ready.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Guys. That's how it goes.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Now, this day at age in the NFL, not the
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: day of Maurice Jones Drew where he would come in
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: and then take the first week with sweat suit on
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: to be ready to go. Right, those days are long gone, Right,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: those days are long gone. You gotta be ready when
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: they walk in the building. And July thirty, July twenty
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: ninth is the first practice day.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just think remember Terrence knighton pot
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Roast and Joe Calling going back and forth overweight in
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: the off season as well.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Man, those were those are legendary battles right there. Oh God,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: pot Roast.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And to think that he was a running back
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: back in the day, you know, it's it's kind of crazy.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: But you know, look, I this is a big year
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: for Trevor and you know, you go back to the
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: first half of twenty two and he wasn't having a
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: very good start to the season, and then the second
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: half of twenty two it was an outstanding finish and
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: then last year, didn't have a great first half of
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: the season, and then finished last year arguably as a
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: top five passer in the National Football League. But the
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: challenge for Trevor is is the consistency part. You know,
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: can he find that level that he finished last year
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: at and make it that all the time, you know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: to where that's him, you know, instead of, hey, look
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: there's moments. You know, you can't be a moment guy.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: You got to be a guy that's always where you're
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: going to be at. And so I think that's the
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: challenge for him, and I think that he knows that,
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: and I think he's taking that challenge and what he's
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: talking about there about the challenge of coming back, you know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: at a certain level so that you can even go
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: further from there. So I think it's a great mindset
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: that he has.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: He's got another year in this offense now, so I
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: don't have to worry about like learning a whole thing
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: from scratch again. That gives him a head start there.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: He's healthy, the shoulder, everything's everything. This is a full
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: off season for him for the first time in a while.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: It's the full offseason, you know, and like listen, I'm
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: sure if you ask Trevor Lawrence, he wants to have
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: the Patrick Mahomes effect right to go out there and
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: win every single game with his arm. But I think
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: in this Liam McAllen offense, he doesn't have to do that.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: And if you look at quarterbacks who won the MVP Award,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: you look at Josh Allen a couple of years ago.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: He won it because they had James Kkho run the football.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: If you look at last year, Matthew Stafford, yeah, he
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: had great numbers. They also had Blake Carames and Williams
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: who was two pretty good running backs having his back
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: as well. The second half of the season won Trevor
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: had all his success. They weren't really running the football
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: that much, you know, I mean it was it was
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: the short pass game D ten, which was kind of
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: an extension off that run game, but they weren't necessarily
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: the most physical team running the football. If you can,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: you know, have a matrimony of it running the football
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: and Trevor Lawrence's talent.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Like now you're talking MVP possibly, I like the name
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: matrimony malony.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, passing a running game, the matrimony of it all.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Let me let me add this to that matrimony. Okay,
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: There's a reason why the Seattle Seahawks won the Super Bowl, okay,
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: and that was defense and a really good defense, and
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: so can this defense take that next step as well?
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: So there's there's plenty of challenges I think with his
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: football team, and and I get the coaching staff a
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: lot of credit. You know, when they start talking about
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: find your edge, you know, that's also about finding ways
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: to challenge the players on this roster for them to
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: find another level of performance. And I think that's a
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: really good thing to happen.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: About ten minutes, we'll get into the defensive side, especially
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: how Travis Hunter could fit into that equation.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Coming back here.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Deon' chi get into that in about ten minutes. D
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: chimes in on everything a lot of things, Yes he does.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Let's continue that on the offensive side though. And a
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: player that's been talked about a lot this offseason program, guys,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: it's Brian Thomas Junior because of the performances, especially in
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: the open practices for media. He always seems to make
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: a couple of plays in this offseason program. Assistant coaches
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: were made available to media this week, including wide receivers
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: coach Edgar Bennett one of the great athletes in Jacksonville history.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: All the time, he had a lot to say about BTJ.
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: He's healthy, That's the number one thing. He's healthy, He's
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: ready to go. I'm excited. He's excited. Trevor is excited.
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: You know, they're making plays on pushing the ball down
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: the field, and he's making the most of every opportunity.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: From a from a mental standpoint, a physical standpoint, we
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: love where.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: He's a ed you're Bennett, but at this for a
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: long long time. And yeah, he should be happy with
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: his group. He's got a lot of guys who are
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: playing really good football, and the sky I think is
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: the limit for this group.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: Like you know, look, I don't know all of the story,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: but I think Brian went through multiple trials last year,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: you know, I think off the field and then also
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: the physical part of getting hurt and a little different
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: for him. And he didn't have chemistry with Trevor because
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Trevor was hurt the year before and so it didn't
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: seem to to really kind of blossom. But if you
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: watch the first two days snapshot of mini camp and said,
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: is this where he's gonna be out this year? You'd
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: be excited. I mean, I'm talking. There were some plays
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: that he made in the first two days of that
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: mini camp that were just spectacular. And it's not so
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: much the plays that made me excited. It was the
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: body language and Austin, we'll appreciate this because when guys
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: got swagger, then that means they're in a good place,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: in a good mental space. And that's what excites me
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: about Brian because you know, when we saw him as
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: a rookie, we saw a swagger and we were like, damn,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: look at this rookie with the swagger right out of
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: the gate against Jalen Ramsey and it didn't stop, you know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: and then last year it was like who is this guy?
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: Where'd the guy with the swagger go? But saw that
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: swagger in Mini camp and that's what excites me the most.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I saw you know that the first
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: OTA practice. You know, Trevor had a little miss, a
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: bit of misthrow and here after Brian Thomas junior right
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: away to kind of pick his brain a little bit
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: and ask Brian what he saw and everything. And you
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: love to see that because we bring it up. Jeff,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: like Brian Thomas, his first year, there wasn't much of
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: a rapport whichever lawrence. It was all mac Jones. And
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: then you go into the second year, everyone thinks, Okay,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: well it's gonna be fine. He's the best wide receiver
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: on the team, YadA, YadA, YadA, And it doesn't go
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: that way. Now you enter this year, and you know,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: I think some of the pressure is gonna be off
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Jr. Because you have Parker Washington, you have
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Jacoby Myers, and he's kind of like the veteran, the
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: savvy guy that you can learn from and listen, all
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: the fantasy nerds out there are gonna be like, well,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: what which wide receiver do you take? Take Brian Thomas Junior,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Parker who knows? You know, it could be different every
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: single game, But the fact of the matter is with
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Junior, what sets him apart from everybody else
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: and why usually the best cornerback on that defense is
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: gonna follow Brian Thomas Junior is because of the speed.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: And as long as you have that and as long
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: as he can showcase that and he can keep running
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: what he's running, yeah, hopefully you can catch upon everything.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: But like that's gonna be the difference maker right there.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: It's his game breaking ability. And Parker Washington's great, a
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: great route runner, and obviously Myer is a sure handed catcher.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: But the game changer is Brian Thomas Junior.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Al Davis is still alive and well in the
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: National Football League, and then he's alive and well with
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Brian Brian Thomas Junior. And you know the reality is
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: is that if you think about how those big chunk
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: plays happen, they exist if you have play action, and
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: play action exists if you run the football.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what Liam Cohn wants to do.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: He wants to run the football extremely well, and then
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: that's going to play into the deep ball possibilities with
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Brian Thomas.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: J And that's just one piece of the offense you
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: can't really see in the offseason program truly is the
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: running game because there's no pads on and there's no
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: nine on seven work, and you can't We'll get an
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: idea of if they can run it or not in
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: about August. Actually, first, you know a couple of weeks
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: in September. Week one is when you really find out.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: But training can't practice, This is when that really starts
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: to show up.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's any doubt that they're going to
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: run the football and run the foot ball well. I
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: think this offensive line, especially in the inside, as we
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: talked a little bit about last week, is as competitive
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: as this group has been in a long period of time.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Now that the tackles not quite as competitive, but on
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: the inside, I think that there's gonna be three legitimate
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: position battles going on for the for all three interior
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: spots in training camp. Now, look, I think there's some
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: guys that might have a leg up, Like Robert Hainsey's
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: got a leg up at center. I think he does
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: a little bit just from an experienced standpoint. Ezra Cleveland's
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: got a little bit of a leg up. I think
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: the right guard spot is wide open, and I think
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: Ezra's gonna have to play well to hold on. I
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: think Haines he's gonna have to play well to hold
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: on because Joonah Mannheim is as a good football player,
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: and lookt Milem is gonna be I think competing hard
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: for that right guard spot. And so I'm excited about
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: those battles.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: You know, And it's fun to be optimistic too, because
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: You've seen tooting without any pads on, and you see
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: the speeds there, right, I mean if he can diagnose
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: the whole hit it at a fast rate and get out,
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: I mean he might be gone every single time. That
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: The fact is, though, is I think on this team
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: right now, they're probably the most unproven position.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: You lose Travis etn too New Orleans and E ten
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: was obviously a huge part of that offensive last year.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: You have a guy now like Tuton who's probably gonna
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: fill into some sort of role, Chris Rodriguez who we
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: haven't really seen a bunch of just because of the
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: injury and everything. And then you have LeQuinn Allen. I mean,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: those are probably gonna be the three guys right now
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: where it stands. And two of those guys that are
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: a little unproven don't have a lot of reps to
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: go off of. So I get they want to run
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: the football, and they have to run the football I
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: feel like to be completely successful. It's just it makes
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: you a little leadery because we haven't seen a lot
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: from these running backs.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope that Basil Tutin and Maurice Jones Drew
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: spent a lot of time together. I mean, you look
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: at those two body type whys. I mean, to me,
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: they're similar, you know. And then I think the running
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: styles are a little similar because Maurice was a power
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: downhill guy. But Maurice also had legitimate four to four speed,
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: which people didn't even realize.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I think when when he.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Came out and Bachel Toutons got he's got the speed
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: to go too, you know. So the Quinn Allen is
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: I think what we saw last year, I think is
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: what he's gonna be.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: You know. I think he's a third down back.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: I think you could probably give him a few carries
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: here and there on first and second down, but that's
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: not his gonna that's not gonna be his gravy, and
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: his gravy is gonna be third down. And as a now,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: I think they can do more with him in the
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: passing game. And he's one of my top five favorite
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: players on his football team because I want that guy.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: He's not afraid to throw it down. I want that
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: guy with me anywhere I go. Yeah, anywhere I go.
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  Speaker 12: Anytime you get a chance to coach a great person
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• 28:34
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• 28:37
  Speaker 12: really fun. He's been outstanding so far. He goes above them,
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  Speaker 12: beyond and prepare himself. So I can't wait.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Matthew Arujo is the defensive pass game coordinator entering his
• 28:48
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• 29:02
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• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Our final show until June June thirtieth, thirtieth. I think
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: July thirtieth. July thirtieth, God, June thirty is like two
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: weeks away. We need more than that. July thirtieth, Yeah,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: some camp opens. I think like the twenty ninety ninth day,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Wednesday, Yeah, which is a little later. I mean, the
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: season starts a little bit later than it used to do.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: They're trying to push that kind of whole Super Bowl
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: thing in the February, you know, so I like the
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: later start. You know, it's for the longest time I'm
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: the NFL I re member started. We would start typically
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: right around the middle of July. You know, I had
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: a birthday in the middle of July, and I was like,
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: you know, I have my birthday in training camp.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Who wants to do that?
• 29:50
  Speaker 10: Not me?
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Ope, Nope.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Travis Hunter the topic of that SoundBite from Arugoh, and
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: he's from all accounts, on track to be back and
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: ready for training camp in the regular season, both sides
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: of the football.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: We'll see the balance of that.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: That'll be a storyline until it's not a storyline, it's
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: just how his career is gonna go.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: I'm excited to see what he's gonna be able to
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: do in year two, just because I mean year one
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: and look, Austin, you'll remember this. I mean, the first
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: year was a whirlwind. I mean from you know, prepping
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: for testing and traveling and you're doing everything but preparing
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: to play football basically because you were doing all the
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: stuff leading up to the draft. And in year two
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: you're really dialing in and getting ready for a football season.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: And I think that's gonna be extremely beneficial to a
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: guy that's potentially gonna be one of the rarest of
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: the rare, which is a true two way player. So
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: I think he's gonna he's gonna reap the rewards of
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: having a full off season, even though it's you know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: partial as you know, the rehab, et cetera. Even though
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: he has that, I still think it's gonna pay him
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: big dividends.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's one of the most
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: cliche things in football is that you make your your
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: biggest strides from year one to year two. But I
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: think it's also the truth. And Quincy Williams, former Jacksonville
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Jaguars linebacker former Murray Statulum had one of my favorite
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: quotes when we talked to him about his rookie year.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: He's like, I'm gonna be honest, my head's in a
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: bee hive right now. That's how he described being a
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: rookie and trying to, you know, pick up the system
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: and everything. So you imagine then you know he's on defense,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: and Jeff, you can probably attest to this like us
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: as defense, like defensive lineman, Like we had to learn
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: some stuff, but it wasn't like the offensive playbook of
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: all the emotions and stuff like we had. It made
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: a little more Well, you look at Travis Hunter, he
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: had to learn the entire defense and then I'll also
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: hear learn all these motions as well with Liam Cohens,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: you know, offensive scheme. So it was definitely a lot
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: on Travis Hunter's plate and probably a lot more than
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: he was accustomed to at Colorado. So now that he's
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: got a yearner his belt a little bit, not only
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: mentally but physically.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you expect big things from him.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that the defining of the role
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: for him him, I think is going to be much
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: more clear in year two. From a coaching standpoint as.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, I think just had to figure out what
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: he could do well.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: And that's a big part of it, you know, because
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: you know, the first year of the coaching staff, they're
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: getting to know him. Okay, what can he do? What
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: type of teaching does he get the best or does.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: He thrive in? What environment does he thrive in?
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: How do he end up preparing him well, you know,
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: because you've got to spend time with him and see
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: how he reacts and see how his body responds. So
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of learning on both sides
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: of that street, you know, in that first year. And now, okay,
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: we've got an idea. So I'm speaking like from a
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: coaching staff perspective. Okay, now we have an idea of
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: what he needs to do to prepare for the season.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: This percentage of snaps on offense, to get ready to
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: have the playbook down, this percent on defense, and hey,
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: look let's define his role on defense so that he's
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: dialed in there. And then offensively is obviously the more
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: challenging side of the ball, I mean, is not exactly
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: Rocks I mean, and they had success on offense without him, Yeah,
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: I mean after he left the lineup, and I mean,
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: so if he's back and if Brian Thomas is back
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: at the high level they expect him to be, and
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: you can find role for Travis Hunter in that, then
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: sky's the limma.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Well, and it's like I said, you know, last year,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: like how many times did we in the second half
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: of the season. How many times do we say, man,
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: I wish we had Tefvis Hunter on offense right now?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: And then how many times do we say, man, I
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: wish on defense right now? Especially that Bill's game, right
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: he could have been the difference right there. So yeah,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I mean I think you like him better on defense,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: But I think the Jaguars the most important thing now
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: with Liam Cohen and company is you have to define
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: his role, right because when he was drafted here, you
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: typed him up, right, you said he's going to change
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: the game and everything and and and the young player
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: like that. He hears that. Well, then now expectations have
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: been put forth for him, right. I'm not saying the
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: media needs to know, you know, is he going to
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: play sixty percent on defense?
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Whatever? Like the met doesn't have to know that. I understand.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Trying to maybe keep it, you know, close to the
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: chest and everything, because it's gonna be part of the
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: game plan. But he has to know because the last
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: thing that you want to see from Travis Hunter is
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: him expecting to go in on offense, not being able
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: to play, and then getting frustrated like that's that's the
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: only way this thing goes bad. There's not a define
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: percentage of what he's going to be playing.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: I think if you looked at it just from you
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: look at the Jaguars roster and Austin you tell me
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: if you think differently, But if you look at like
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: the wide receiver room, say okay, here's what they have,
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: here's what they have waiting in the wings with some
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: young guys, and here's what they have on defense, I
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: think it's pretty clear that the need for his talent
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: I think primarily is on defense, just because you don't
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: have an elite corner on defense and.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: He's just corner of this team, right oh yeah yeah,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah yeah.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: And because I don't I don't consider Jordan Lewis a corner.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: I consider him a nickel sure, And and so you
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: we need to have that elite guy if you want
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: to be able to like we talked about earlier. You know,
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: Seattle wins with defense. Okay, well where's your stars on defense? Well,
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: I think he's got to be one of those guys
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: on defense, and then I think you can have him
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: involved in packages all offense, because look, the addition of
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Jacoby Myers last year was an absolute monster for this offense,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: and I think it took it takes a lot of
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: pressure off of Travis to be needed on that side
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: of the ball full time.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, well and listen if you ask I
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: mean you asked him US coach Camp. I'm a defensive guy.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: I want to see Travis Hunter on defense, right because
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I know what he can do at the cornerback position.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: We saw a man up Travis Kelcey last year. You know,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: like there's not a lot of cornerbacks that can take
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: on a tight end man to man and do your
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: job against them.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Travis Hunter Kent.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: But at the same point, I understand it's entertainment business, right,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: and I can name five top wide.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Receivers off the top of my head.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: I'm actually I can name top like the top five
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: corners right now, right because score touchdowns. You know these
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: say in high school scoring touchdowns. It gets your name
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: in the paper, right, it gets you all the glory.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: And I think with Chevis Hunter, I think there is
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: some of that that appeases him right that he wants
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: to do. He wants to get the cover of Madden.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: He wants to score touchdowns and do a celebration and everything.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: So I think you had to find that proper balance from.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: All accounts, though he also wants to see the winning scoreboard.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I think that's that's a big piece of from what
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: I understand, people who've dealt with him like it's cool
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: as long as we win games, Like if that's the
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: number one mindset, then all the rest of this is
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: just talk and fine, and there will be talk like
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: we're talking about it right now. There's talk from his
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: old head coach like there's gonna be noise around Travis Hunter.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: It's just how it's gonna go. But I think there's
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: a piece of him and it's like, you know what,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: whatever it takes for us to win the football game, that's.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: All he cares. That's all he cares about it.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: I think there was a moment last year then I
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: think there was a conversation going on about you know,
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: his role or something like that, and coach was talking
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: to Travis about it, and Travis said, the only thing
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: that matters is winning, and we won, and so he
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: was like telling them, don't worry about it. We won,
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: That's all that matters. And so, you know, and a
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: lot of people that don't know Travis Hunter and I
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: don't know him great, but I just hear you know
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: from the inside that he is one of the premiere
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: ultimate competitors on this planet. But that's not ahead of
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: team first. He is, from what I understand from everything
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: that I hear, he is a team first guy. And
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: that's why they ended up trading the capital that they
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: did to get him, is because he has that type
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: of DNA and it's not average Joe DNA. It's one
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: of those elite competitor DNA that's team first and he
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: believes that he's got the assets to be able to
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: help football team get there.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you guys this, say it's eleven personnel, right,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: and Travis Hunter is going in.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: One tight end, one back, three wide receivers.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you man, thank you. Thank who's the
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: first privacy that's coming out? Then if Travis Hunter is
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: going in what Parker, Jacobi or Brian. Yeah, it's a
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: great question. It's a great question.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Well if well, what are we going, what are you
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: lining up against? Where on the field are what do
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: we do? There's all the depends against. Is it a
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: good slot corner? Is this team or not? So what
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: did you think it's gonna be? More of obviously a
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: scheme and who they're playing. I think it's the situation.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like way be in defense JP fantastic. It depends
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: on the week. I think it depends on the situation.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I think it depends on the weather. Well, if if
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: you look.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: At last year's performance, you're taking Brian Thomas Junior.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Off right, Well, how many yards do we need?
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean I know, if it's third and seventeen,
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: I want to have seven on the field, you go
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: get it. But if you looked at the performance last year,
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: you would say that Brian would come out okay.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: If it's okay, if all it's first and ten and
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: it's opponent X, there's it doesn't matter who's out there
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: on the other side, and probably yeah, sure I think
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: it's Brian, But hey, Brian would line up right, would not?
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: They had all those I get it. I get, so
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: do you want to get out of a snap? But
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to live in last year.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: That's what you're right now. I'm just saying that if
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: you had that based it on performance. Let's say, let's
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: say you start the year out and the performances are
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: like what they were last year, then you would make
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: that call. Okay, But I think this year, I think
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: that's going to be a hard call. How is everybody performing?
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: And I think that that's I think, well, you know,
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: when you talk about like a running back room, okay,
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: going with a hot hand. Sure you do the same
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: thing at the wide receiver position. But here's the here's
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: the problem. Is Travis Hunter one of those guys that
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: can play all positions? That's a great question too, Okay,
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: and and and I don't know the answer to that,
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: but if I had to guess, I would say no,
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: because if you're if you've got a guy that's trying
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: to play on both sides of the ball, does he
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: have time to learn all three of the wide receiver positions?
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: No? I mean you think there's gonna be packages especially
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: for him?
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: Or just let him focus in on the one position
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: on the offensive side of the ball, and then the
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: one position on the defensive side of the ball so
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: that you can just get him ready physically without wearing
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: them out taking a ton of reps on both sides
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: of the ball.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: All right, so answer the question to get answered at all,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: you're you're the west Coat. We're talking to Prisco. He took.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: He said, it's like de Loorean going back in time.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: No one's answering the question. It's all good. I'll answer
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: it a question answer.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: I think it's Parker Washington simply because I think if
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: you're gonna run the gadgets in the packages, I think
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: him in the slot and him giving a little more
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: space to get open and getting the ball in space,
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: it could be really beneficial.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: It's not a knock on Parker Washington.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: I just think he's he's the casualty because in the
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: slot that that could be Travis Hunter's game.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: All right, So who are you taking out?
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: I'm probably taking out, probably taking out Travis, because I
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: like Parker in there because of those certain things. He
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: has that different ability. And I'm putting Brian over the
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: time and Jacoby's gonna catch the ball.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: And it's interesting that not one of us, not anybody.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: Nobody mentioned Jacoby True, Jacoby staying in hands of gold.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: He's in hands got paid to man you got and it
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: ain't about getting paid. It's the hand. It is true
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: true those hands I mean, because you know what, you
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: just trust them.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean those are the trustworthy hands.
• 41:37
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• 41:39
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• 41:43
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• 41:56
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• 42:01
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• 42:03
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• 42:05
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• 42:07
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• 42:10
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• 42:12
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• 42:15
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• 42:18
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• 42:22
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• 42:25
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• 42:29
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• 42:33
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• 43:17
  Speaker 3: games played all time excluding kickers and punters. Well, there's
• 43:22
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• 43:25
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• 43:27
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• 43:33
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• 43:37
  Speaker 3: thirty five games, Jerry Rice wide receiver three hundred three games,
• 43:41
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• 43:45
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• 43:49
  Speaker 3: five games. Mercedes Lewis two hundred and ninety games as
• 43:52
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• 43:56
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• 44:00
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• 44:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's anybody that can do what he's done for
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: the period of time that he's done. I mean he's
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: I mean Bruce Matthews, Jackie Slater, Darryl Green, I mean
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: that's I mean, those are the guys that are, you know,
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: hall of famers, And I don't know if Marcedes is
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: ever going to reach the Hall of Fame. But I
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: mean when you talk about longevity and be able to
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: do it for that long, I mean you've got to
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: have a lot of good fortune and somebody's got to
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: be smiling down on you from above to be able
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: to have the physical gift to be able to play
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: that long. But there also is a lot of dedication
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: and personal sacrifice that goes into that Marcedes been willing
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: to give him of himself every year to be able
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: to play, and he's he's a and his mentality has
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: always been special, and that's I think one of the
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: reasons why he's been able to do it.
• 44:50
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, well, uh, we all have those lucome in
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: the NFL moments, right. Well, I really had a welcome
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: the NFL year going against Marcedes Lewi because when I
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: got to Jackson, like I knew of him, I didn't
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: really know what he was all about, right, I mean,
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: it was the Ruice Jones Jews show.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't really know Marsides Lewis too well.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: And I remember like our first padded practice and like
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: I try to take pride and being very physical, you know,
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: being great in the run game and everything not on
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: gonna be pushed me around, and like I'm accustom taking
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: on double teams, you know, playing in the six or
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: the seven, right, and then obviously a tackle and tight
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: end come at you. Well, my first practice with pads,
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: it was just Marcedes Lewis, you know, and that was it.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: And you know, I like they call it getting sunned,
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: what you wanna call it? But like he helped me pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 4: And then I remember thinking, like after that practice my locker, like,
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  Speaker 4: is every single tight end like this in the NFL?
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  Speaker 4: Because if that's the case, then hey, I'm not sure if.
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  Speaker 2: The NFL is for me.
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  Speaker 4: And then obviously that that first preseason game comes around,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, okay, it's where we're gonna be. Okay,
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Marsides Lewis is he's a freak. You know, he's one
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  Speaker 4: of the the one percenters, if you will, in terms
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: of run blocking.
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  Speaker 8: Man.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that that guy is what I mean. I
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: got nothing but respect for him.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Man. The way that he plays the game, he's he's
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: one of the last dying breed when it comes to
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: being in the physical type of linebacker.
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  Speaker 5: I would be willing to put it out there that
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  Speaker 5: he might be the best blocking tight end of all time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's He was that good.
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  Speaker 5: And uh, you know, which is crazy because you know,
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: when he came out, he was the Mackie Award winner,
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: which is for tight ends to catch the ball. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you know, it's not like he was everybody thought he
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: was going to be this great blocking tight end. In fact,
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: when he came in, his catching ability was just kind
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: of ah. But then when he would block, we were like, god,
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: I mean you kidd mean he was long, strong as
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: an ox, and just control, had great control, never over extended.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: And I'll never forget the moments in Indianapolis and against Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 5: He's the only guy that I could see ever blocking
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: Dwight Freenie one on one on a consistent basis. I mean,
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: just nobody blocked Freenie. His get off was too strong.
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: And if and I said this to you guys earlier,
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: if Marceides was an offensive lineman, he could have been
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: a Pro Bowl Hall of Famer at offensive line. Yeah,
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: and he was. He was that good of a blocker.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: And many people actually even talked about when he slowed down,
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: maybe we'll move him to tackle put On about twenty
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: pounds thirty pounds. Twenty years later, he's still playing it well.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: And that's right.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the thing to Jeff right, because if we're
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: always taught, like if it's a pass and a tight
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: end blocks you one on one, that's a sign of
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: disrespect for you, right, Like, if you're getting blocked by
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: a tight end, you might want to hang him up.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: Usually it's a double team or like a chip, but
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: a Titans should never block you one on one. Marceides
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: Lewis was the exception. Like if you're a defensive vent
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: and he's blocking one on one, it's like, all right,
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: well man, that's Marcedes.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: It is what it is. It's the other day.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: Name me another tight ends that block goodes Marcedes loose
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: in NFL history, and I think this will be as
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: this will be a great I think discussion with you know,
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Bill Belichick or Tom Coffin or some of the great
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: historians of the league, because you know, blocking tight ends
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: just don't they don't get a lot of fanfare.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so I'll say this hasn't played against Gronk.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Gronk had that strength, but Marcedes the body, control, the footwork,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: the athleticism.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: He's one of one.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Like you can see Gronk driving some people back and
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: putting them on their back as a defensive end. But
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: he's big, He's so big and just strong, right, But
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: like Marcedes, it was the complete package. It was the athleticism,
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: the like I don't say finesse, but just like the
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: fluid movement.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: He was always in control, you know, Marceides was always
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: in control. I mean, I don't know if he had
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: these great pancake blocks, you mean, because Gronk always kind
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: of wanted to make a little bit.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Of a show of it sometimes.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't know if Marcedes necessarily was looking
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: to do that. He just dominated guys and it was
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: it was an effortless domination, which I think made it
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: even more special to watch.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: By the way, noteworthy first time Mercedes has been back
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: in the building since he left because he's been playing.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Clearly he's been on other teams. So he's a free agent.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Now we'll see what the twenty twenty six holes.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: There's possibilities maybe for him down the line in the NFL,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: where there's possibilities for us down the line in the
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: NFL as well in this coming year twenty twenty six, July,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: late July, we'll be back July thirtieth, where the next
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Jaguars happy, our little summer hiatus, And.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Here we are.
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: We've reached the dead zone in the heat zone. Yes,
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: today there's been u pretty warm.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: That's what it is.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: Gotta have this time to refresh and get ready. Though
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: Austin absolutely thought it doubt man. Yeah, I mean I'm heading. Well,
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: I don't put my son's on watching when we're going
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: to the World Cup next week as well. So yeah, yeah,
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: so what we'll be in New York City for that. Well,
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's watched. I think we're all good.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: You don't think so. I don't think so.
• 49:41
  Speaker 12: Huh.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: He has his iPad, but like, I don't think he's
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: gonna add to the viewer count of this show. I
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: think he's playing some kind of roadblocks game or something. Well,
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: we're about to find out in two seconds. So you're
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: junior off time too. Training camp logs saved to you.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Give us that buy for a Happy Hour some more?
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  Speaker 4: Are you used in the booth now doing the Oh No,
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: I'll be coming.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: To Okay, Cool Cool, Austin Lane, Jeff Flogging and JP
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Shatter here thanks to Joe Fortunado Brent Reaver.
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  Speaker 2: Have a great summer and we'll see at Trading Camp
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