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- 0:00In this episode, we dive into the essentials of building a successful freelancing business
- 0:03on Fiverr. We'll cover how to master time management, customer service, and pricing as well as
- 0:08the strategies to scale from a solo freelancer to running your own business. Whether you're just
- 0:14starting out or looking to grow, this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you succeed.
- 0:30When you're starting to sell a service or a product, do you think that it makes more sense to use
- 0:35a marketplace like a Fiverr or even like an upwork or any top towel or any other, or is it
- 0:40more, it makes more sense to figure out a website, market yourself?
- 0:46I think in the beginning a freelancing platform like a Fiverr is definitely the best way to go
- 0:52because they handle so much of it for you, right? Like you don't need to set up a website,
- 0:56you don't need to do your own marketing, you don't need to worry about client disputes,
- 1:01they'll handle all of it. I think starting out if you try and just be your own independent
- 1:06freelancer with your own website and everything right out of the gates, you're going to be so
- 1:09overwhelmed. I think it's going to be too much. I think a freelancing platform's ideal
- 1:14in people's first few years because you get to learn time management, you have to start to
- 1:19understand discipline, not procrastinating, customer service. That's a lot to learn. You've got
- 1:24to give yourself a couple of years for that. Once you feel like you totally got that unlock,
- 1:29you know how to sell people and all that stuff, then I think taking it off of there,
- 1:33where you own 100% of your business is obviously the end goal. That's how you get the agency,
- 1:38go that's how you hire help, you start growing it into something huge, you can make
- 1:42you have seven figures if you want, but I think a freelancing platform is perfectly fine in the
- 1:46meantime because you can make six figures on a freelancing platform which is like crazy and you
- 1:52can do it by yourself. And how much time did you actually have to put in to to hit that to hit
- 1:58and any any significant amount of revenue that would replace your your PR job? Was it
- 2:03months 80 hours a week? Yeah. Oh, oh, oh. Yeah, so like in only two months, I knew it was going to work.
- 2:09Yeah, I mean, I was working a lot in the beginning like I was working 50, 60 hour weeks, never 80
- 2:14hour weeks. I've never been someone who's like not going to sleep at night for I've always thought
- 2:20that's like stupid in college and people are like, I'm pulling it all night or I'm like, well,
- 2:23that's dumb because you're going to be exhausted tomorrow. Like I've never like gotten that,
- 2:27but I would hover around the like 50, 60 hour mark no days off. And I say to people, you don't have
- 2:34to do it that way. Like I'm just being honest about what I did. I'm not saying you have to do it that
- 2:38way, but I think yeah, did working 60 hours a week in the beginning get me the six figures faster
- 2:44probably. If six figures is at your goal, then don't work 60 hours a week. Don't worry about it.
- 2:50Very cool. Okay. And then just I'm curious as to because you mentioned a few other things like
- 2:54when you jump into entrepreneurship, there's other stuff that crops up. There's customer success.
- 2:59There's, um, you mentioned a few things. Actually, I'm liking on some of the other stuff, but
- 3:04what are some of those? What are some of those things that you don't think about when you're
- 3:09starting? Because you have you have your skill that you want to sell to the world. One of the other
- 3:13things that you have to be aware of that you generally don't realize until you're in it. Yeah,
- 3:18oh man, so many things. Um, you market and not marketing sales, right? Like when you're messaging
- 3:25customers, how do you get them to book more with you? Um, customer service like customer satisfaction.
- 3:31They need to leave you five service. You have to offer revisions. You have to be professional
- 3:36in your communication with them. If they lash out at you, you have to still be professional
- 3:40back to them time management. If somebody places eight orders with you one day, you cannot procrastinate.
- 3:46That's the, you know, because if you were already procrastinating another huge order due tomorrow,
- 3:51you now have a situation. So, you know, very like, what is that? Soft skills are like real,
- 3:56common sense stuff is a huge part of this that, you know, you didn't need to have to do well in
- 4:02college or anything or you sometimes don't even really need to do well in a nine to five because
- 4:07your boss, your manager, we can care of it for you. So it's like all those things. You
- 4:11give yourself time to learn those things, but those things, once you learn them, I think you're
- 4:15infallible. Um, I think once you, you know, conquer procrastination, you know how to sell things to
- 4:20people, you know, how to take criticism and not take it personally, I think you can go do anything
- 4:25then. It doesn't have to be freelancing like I think you're set for life when you like get it
- 4:29through that 100%. Um, now this, this is something I'm curious about. Do you think that?
- 4:35Because I, I always preach that you shouldn't jump right in, but I think there could be a benefit
- 4:40because when you jump right into entrepreneurship, you force yourself to ramp like there's like no
- 4:44looking back like you, you could have a little bit of a nest egg, but I mean, chances are you have
- 4:49to, you have to make rent in a couple months and that's going to be an issue if you don't make money.
- 4:53So do you think that by maybe not jumping into, if you jump into a side hustle just part time,
- 4:59do you think maybe the drive isn't there? And that may give a false, a false response to whether or
- 5:04not you could be successful versus if you jump right in and you're like forced, you're like
- 5:10sink or swim. Yeah. Um, I think being forced into it ensures success more and that you're going
- 5:20to make it work. Um, but I have seen a lot of people segue into it half and half where they
- 5:25start at part time while they're at their nine to five. And if they hate their nine to five
- 5:30enough, they make it work part time. So it's almost, I just see it always works. If you are so miserable
- 5:38at whatever it is you're doing, like that's when it works because if you like kind of like your nine
- 5:42to five still, I don't think you're going to make it work. So it takes a lot of work. But for the
- 5:46people I know who are just like, make it stop. I hate this with every fiber of my being. I cannot
- 5:52go on another day. Um, I see them make it work. So it's really like a will thing. Yeah.
- 5:58Um, and okay. So now it was a now you're in it. You're doing it. And, and the one thing that I
- 6:04always was curious about with someone who offers a service in a freelancing environment where the
- 6:10customers are always different industries, different niches. How do you stay? How do you
- 6:18be effective across so many different niches because of course copyrighting is you definitely
- 6:24have to. But I think there's other things like if you are doing any sort of product specific work,
- 6:30you have to find a way to execute whatever service it is that you offer against that product
- 6:34in like record time at a very high caliber. So what's the is it just research? Is it mindset? Is it
- 6:41is there a strategy to find the best information in the short period of time, even though you've never
- 6:46learned about that thing before in your life? Um, yeah, that's that's why the questionnaires are so
- 6:53important in freelancing because if you have a proper questionnaire set up, the client will essentially
- 6:59give you everything you already need. So you'll say, you know, what pages do you want done? What's
- 7:03the topic? Do you have a title in mind? Do you have a blog that you really like that you want this
- 7:08to sound like? And by the time they're done with your questionnaire, they've kind of given you
- 7:11like everything you need to then just write it for me at that. Okay. So this is like the this is
- 7:16like the customer onboarding piece like this is like what this is when you're first bringing them on
- 7:20like that is like integral to being successful. Yeah, basically. Yeah. And the questionnaire is
- 7:26everything. It could it also minimizes miscommunications because like in the beginning, my questionnaires
- 7:31would have like two questions in them and the client would I wouldn't know what the client wanted
- 7:35and the client would get pissed at me and I'd get pissed at the client and all this stuff.
- 7:39Then when you have the 10 questions by the end when they answer all 10 questions like they can't
- 7:43get mad at you because you literally followed like everything they told you. So it's like they
- 7:48don't have a kinks against you at that point because you very smart. Yeah, because like I mean
- 7:53occasionally you get a crazy person who you will follow everything they ask of you and they're
- 7:58like bipolar or something and they'll they'll say like that's not what I want. And I'm like.
- 8:02Okay, or they could or they could be they could be they could be you know doing that on purpose
- 8:08because they want or they think they know the game right they think if they if they complain
- 8:12it's like the person who like like after they ate the meal at the restaurant they're like this
- 8:17was shit like they think like they're going to get a free free something out of you if they just
- 8:21complain enough. Exactly. And if you you know have your questionnaire set up like that Fiverr
- 8:26will see that and be like okay we see this buyers an asshole. This person is trying to get
- 8:33free work basically. All right. Okay, cool. All right. So you so now you are growing your business
- 8:40on Fiverr. The next the next step in entrepreneurship or solo partnership is pricing and and making
- 8:50your business more viable of course. So what are some of the because this is something that I've been
- 8:55in consulting before not copywriting but it's something that I struggled with personally. I know
- 8:59a lot of people struggle with pricing their stuff. How do you price your stuff and how do you know
- 9:04when to increase the price on on your stuff. So on a Fiverr it's really easy because everyone's
- 9:09prices are public. So you just go find your competitors and just copy it. That's what I did.
- 9:15Two times I raised my prices on Fiverr when you advance a level, raise your prices. When you
- 9:20have more work thing you can humanly do in a 10 hour work day, raise your prices. It's all very
- 9:25like we're you know just fluid like just pay attention type of stuff. But you raise your prices
- 9:31even more than those two triggers probably. I always tend to operate on the lower end of the
- 9:36pricing spectrum. That's a me problem. But I say to people you know those are the two instances.
- 9:42Don't be shy. Okay very good. So walk me through the like the current version of your business.
- 9:50So obviously started on Fiverr you grew some additional product. I just want to get at like a
- 9:53holistic and maybe I'll think of some questions to go into or some strengths to go into. But then
- 9:57I want to just keep going down your story and CNBC and some of the things that have come out of that
- 10:02as well. So what's the current iteration of your business all the product services that you're
- 10:08doing right now? Yeah so my business has now officially made the jump from just being on Fiverr
- 10:13to being its own agency essentially. So I have a person below me my best friend who's actually the
- 10:19manager now of three different writers. So I am no longer the girl alone on Fiverr writing every day.
- 10:25I've always been transparent about that which all the trolls are like she isn't telling the truth.
- 10:29I'm like you guys what like I'm always I don't understand why my business can't grow.
- 10:34Like how is that a sin? Like we'll talk about they'll talk about some of that stuff in a second too.
- 10:40Well so I've done this for seven years. I would be an idiot at this point if I didn't have people
- 10:45helping me like why would I just keep doing this alone. So I have my best friend for the last two
- 10:52months now. It's very it's very new is building out an agency essentially below me. So I'm helping
- 10:58with the hiring of people. I'm looking over their work before it's still ever making sure it's
- 11:02up to par and she's basically doing the rest because I'm looking to now you know move more into
- 11:08almost a coaching like informational realm with this. My my season of my podcast is starting next
- 11:15week. I want to get more into almost freelance reporting. No one else is doing that. I want to
- 11:21feature different people's stories talk to other people and freelancing. I'm really like create
- 11:26this community of it that is just so lacking online today. That's where I'm heading with it
- 11:31right now. So I am the most removed from it. I have ever been but I think I deserve that.
- 11:36It's been seven years like I was going to say congratulations because the only goal of a business
- 11:41owner is to make themselves redundant. If you are a thing you're not you don't have a business you
- 11:45just have a job that you've created for yourself. Thanks for tuning in. If you found this valuable
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