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Teamsters President Sean O_Brien _ This Past Weekend w_ Theo Von _536(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: slash T-O-U-R and thank you for your support. Today's guest
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  Speaker 1: is the president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. He's
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  Speaker 1: a fourth generation Teamster himself and he's from Boston. I'm
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  Speaker 1: really excited about spending time today with Mr. Sean O'Brien.
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  Speaker 1: I never been in a union, I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: What about SAG-AFTRA? You did some acting there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's right. I had to get in SAG-AFTRA
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  Speaker 1: one time. Right, yeah. Yeah. So I guess I was
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  Speaker 1: in that union. We try to, I used to work
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  Speaker 1: at a pizza joint and, uh, one guy was getting
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  Speaker 1: fired and we're like, you can't fire. If you fire him,
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  Speaker 1: you got to fire all of us.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it's all about.
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  Speaker 1: And the guy, he just fired all of us. And
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  Speaker 1: he was right. Actually, Mr. Wayne, he was the owner
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  Speaker 1: and he was right there. We were horrible workers. We
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  Speaker 1: was drinking and just deep frying everything in there.
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  Speaker 2: Um, That shouldn't be a terminable offense.
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  Speaker 1: We needed you. Sean O'Brien, you're president of the Teamsters Union, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the term?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: It's International Brotherhood of Teamsters.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. And what is a Teamster?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Teamsters started out traditional trucking, truck drivers. They were
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  Speaker 2: horse and buggies back in the day and then evolved
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  Speaker 2: into trucking. And then we've evolved into, we represent everybody
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  Speaker 2: from Airline pilots to zookeepers and everybody in between, so
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  Speaker 2: it's not just a trucking union. Our largest employer is
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  Speaker 2: United Parcel Service, representing 340,000 teams nationwide.
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  Speaker 1: United Parcel Service?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, UPS. Okay, UPS. We provide all the transportation needs
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  Speaker 2: for motion pictures, trade shows, public sector. We're pretty diverse
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  Speaker 2: in large union, 1.3 million members nationwide and in Canada.
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  Speaker 1: In the Teamsters Union.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: And so they got, so it was a team of horses.
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  Speaker 1: That's why the name is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Horse and buggies. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. They had teams pulling horses and buggies. We've
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  Speaker 2: been around since 1903.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So you can see how transportation and has changed over
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  Speaker 2: the years, but you know, it's, it's a great organization
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  Speaker 2: for John fourth generation Teamster. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so you're, and are you the first president of
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  Speaker 1: your family that was ever in?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. All my family members just rank and file members
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  Speaker 2: went to work every day. I started out in a
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  Speaker 2: construction yard in Boston, a rigging company hauling cranes around,
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  Speaker 2: and I just moved up the ladder, became a shop steward,
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  Speaker 2: then became a business agent for Local 25 in Boston
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  Speaker 2: and just kept moving along. Nice, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And a union is what?
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  Speaker 2: A union is, you know, we represent working people. We
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  Speaker 2: collectively bargain for our members. We make certain that we
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  Speaker 2: protect them in the workplace. process all their grievances, but
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  Speaker 2: more importantly, organize workers throughout the country that want to
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  Speaker 2: be unionized. And we've been very successful doing that. And
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  Speaker 2: we just want to represent working people. We know 1.3
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  Speaker 2: million right now. Hopefully, we'll be 2 million in the
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  Speaker 2: near future.
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  Speaker 1: Amen. And yeah, because I know unions are responsible for
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  Speaker 1: the work week, right?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So unions- The 40-hour week. 40-hour work week. Look, the
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  Speaker 2: unions have set the bar. Even non-union people benefit when
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  Speaker 2: you organize. And we've organized in every industry, but we're
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  Speaker 2: responsible for overtime. We're responsible for the 40-hour work week.
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  Speaker 2: We're responsible for the weekend. A lot of people don't
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  Speaker 2: know that.
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  Speaker 1: God, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: But if we do have to work the weekend, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to get double time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and now didn't they just make a law that
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be overtime? It won't get taxed?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's a campaign promise from President Trump, I believe.
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  Speaker 2: So as you know, promises sometimes don't come to fruition.
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  Speaker 2: But it is recorded, so we'll use it against whoever
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  Speaker 2: said it.
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  Speaker 1: How pivotal is our unions in the American industry?
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  Speaker 2: Look, we built the middle class. We built America. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: as you know, once big business gets involved, private equity
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  Speaker 2: of the world, or there's big money to be made,
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  Speaker 2: everybody forgets. They get amnesia on who actually is responsible.
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  Speaker 2: And there was such a decline in the 80s because
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  Speaker 2: politicians put in some bad regulation. I mean, I can
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  Speaker 2: speak for the teams as they passed trucking deregulation. And
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  Speaker 2: if I could put the numbers to it, we had 400,000
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  Speaker 2: members alone just in the freight industry. And when they
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  Speaker 2: passed trucking deregulation, we lost 400,000 members. companies went bankrupt, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and pension funds took a hit.
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  Speaker 1: So what happened though? Like when they say deregulation, what
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  Speaker 1: do you mean by it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, the whole industry was regulated. So every
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  Speaker 2: company had rates that they had to adhere to.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I had to follow a certain set of rules.
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  Speaker 2: And then once deregulation passed, it was a race to
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  Speaker 2: the bottom. And, you know, unfortunately that, that hurt us
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  Speaker 2: over three or four decades. And now there's such a, uh,
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  Speaker 2: there's such a opportunity because there's so much corporate greed
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  Speaker 2: out there where these white collar crime syndicates known as
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  Speaker 2: corporate America, just all they care about is the bottom
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  Speaker 2: line of their balance sheet. And, you know, we've been
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  Speaker 2: fighting hard for the last four or five years to
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  Speaker 2: expose how greedy these CEOs, these corporations are, but also
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  Speaker 2: how corruptible the political system is. You know, it's funny,
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  Speaker 2: you know, before you always had Democrats fighting for working
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  Speaker 2: people and, you know, Republicans. Now we kind of see
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  Speaker 2: a switch where Working people feel like, number one, they've
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  Speaker 2: been left behind by the Democratic Party. Two, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Republicans say they want to be working class, represent
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  Speaker 2: the working class. They have an opportunity to do it. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think we've got a huge opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: organize and we've been exposing them and we've been fighting. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, our biggest opponent right now is Amazon and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to crush them.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, because Amazon– my mom drives– is an Amazon worker.
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  Speaker 2: Is she?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So she's an independent contractor. She drives to them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. She delivers stuff for Amazon. So I'll tell.
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  Speaker 2: You the difference, right? Okay. You look at our UPS drivers.
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  Speaker 2: We just negotiated the largest collective bargaining agreement. UPS is
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  Speaker 2: the largest teamster contract in the country, and they're a
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  Speaker 2: very difficult company to deal with. However, our drivers are
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  Speaker 2: direct employees. Our members are direct employees of UPS. And
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  Speaker 2: once you're through a four-year progression as a driver, you're
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  Speaker 2: making almost $ 50 an hour, full medical, and a pension
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  Speaker 2: that you can actually retire off of. And Amazon hides
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  Speaker 2: behind an independent contractor model where they pay their drivers
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  Speaker 2: about $ 19. 50 to $ 20 per hour. That's the difference.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. My mom's asking me for allowance.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, as she should.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 2: She brought your ass into this world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to pay the tariff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't want to piss your mother off.
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  Speaker 2: Believe me, I got a strong Irish Catholic mother who
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  Speaker 2: brought up her three younger brothers in a housing project
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  Speaker 2: in Boston. And she had three just like me. And
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  Speaker 2: she's the toughest one I know. And that's the only
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  Speaker 2: person I'm afraid of, really, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: Really? In Boston?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, some of the women in Boston, dude.
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  Speaker 2: But my mother's like petting a python. Any given moment,
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  Speaker 2: she's going to squeeze the life out of you. But
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  Speaker 2: I love and respect her.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: She's the best.
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  Speaker 1: And if a mouse goes missing around her?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you get the head nod.
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  Speaker 2: The problem, you get the head nod from my mother.
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  Speaker 2: It's like she'll go, oh, nice. Head nod. Done. You're done.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. You're done.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's like someone put a hit on you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: My mother, yeah, she delivers for Amazon. Yeah. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how many hours a week she works, but she
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  Speaker 1: delivers for Amazon. How hard is it to get a
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  Speaker 1: group of workers to unionize like at a company that's
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  Speaker 1: already like preexisting like that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're doing it right now. Like, so Amazon hides
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  Speaker 2: behind this bullshit independent contractor model. So they'll third party
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  Speaker 2: leasing arrangement with a company. Probably what your mom's working for.
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  Speaker 2: And they try and say that they're not employees. We
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  Speaker 2: just won a big case in California where it's called
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  Speaker 2: joint employer, where it's a masquerade, where Amazon controls the
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  Speaker 2: other company. Amazon dictates the rules. Amazon dictates where you
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  Speaker 2: buy your vehicles and everything else. But they don't take
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  Speaker 2: any responsibility when the shit hits the fan. So we
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  Speaker 2: actually won that case recently. And we're organizing all over
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  Speaker 2: the place. But what we're doing is we're striking for recognition.
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  Speaker 2: We're going in there, getting the majority of authorization cards
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  Speaker 2: signed by folks like your mom. And then we just
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  Speaker 2: strike them and hold them out. And it's working. Because
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  Speaker 2: of that victory we had with exposing Amazon with the
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  Speaker 2: independent contract to scam, we get the potential to organize
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  Speaker 2: your mom and 300,000 other people.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: So we've allocated tremendous funding to do this. And look, Amazon,
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  Speaker 2: the one thing about the Teamsters Union and us, we're
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  Speaker 2: not good looking, clearly, right? Yeah, well. But we don't
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  Speaker 2: have the deep- In some cultures. We don't have the
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  Speaker 2: deep pockets, but we've got fight, we've got intestinal fortitude,
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  Speaker 2: and we're not afraid. We're not afraid to lose because
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  Speaker 2: we're supposed to lose anyways, right? When you're not afraid
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  Speaker 2: to lose- Yeah, you got nothing to lose, nothing to
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  Speaker 2: lose yeah and it's important because we set these industry
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  Speaker 2: standards negotiating these contracts so people like your mother people
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  Speaker 2: that aren't organized will see the value of becoming a
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  Speaker 2: union member and look there's always people that have something
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  Speaker 2: to say no matter what you know you know you're
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  Speaker 2: doing great you have a great show you've made tremendous
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  Speaker 2: success there's going to be someone that is jealous and doesn't,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just wants to attack you. And we're trying
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  Speaker 2: to change that philosophy. We're trying to change that image.
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  Speaker 2: And look, we're out there just want to help people.
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  Speaker 2: We want to take on schoolyard bullies and we want
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  Speaker 2: to put them on their knees, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I hope you take the kneecaps off some of
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  Speaker 1: these perverts, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's how I really feel. And also a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these, like a lot of the tech industry
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  Speaker 1: came along and just because they're an app or they're
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  Speaker 1: a website, They act like they're not an employer, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's the biggest scam in the world. You've got Uber.
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  Speaker 1: You've got Lyft.
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  Speaker 2: You've got Google. You've got all these tech companies. And
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  Speaker 2: the sad part is these politicians that claim to be
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  Speaker 2: out there fighting for work and people are bought and
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  Speaker 2: fucking sold by these companies.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It's disgusting. I love it because my job is– and again,
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  Speaker 2: I'm wearing the shirt, right? Because we are fucking fighting
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  Speaker 2: with everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And we have to because– you know, these, we have
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  Speaker 2: to be someone's conscience and that's, we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: their conscience. These big, big tech companies.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. How does the Teamsters afford attorneys and stuff to
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  Speaker 1: be able to fight those battles?
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  Speaker 2: Like, well, we, you know, we have members pay dues. Okay. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the dues, the dues money, obviously, uh, uh, finance,
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  Speaker 2: it's a whole operation and, you know, we are financially secure.
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  Speaker 2: We have $ 400 million in a strike and defense fund, uh,
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  Speaker 2: which means that we can strike and, you know, we can,
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  Speaker 2: support a long-term strike but also defend against any threat
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  Speaker 2: to the organization that all comes from uh dues money
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  Speaker 2: um hell yeah and and you know that's how we
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  Speaker 2: afford it it's like.
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  Speaker 1: Newsies you ever seen newsies yeah don't tell anybody don't
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  Speaker 1: tell anybody we saw it but we saw it yeah
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  Speaker 1: but it was about a strike i just i just
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  Speaker 1: don't want to admit it yeah i feel yeah yeah
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  Speaker 1: it's like a.
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  Speaker 2: Couple it's like a couple of those you know abc
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  Speaker 2: after school specials yeah you watch but you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to admit you watched and liked.
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  Speaker 1: Them yeah yeah Yeah. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We're supposed to have a big, tough attitude as teamsters.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure, dude. Speaking of strikes and stuff recently,
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  Speaker 1: they have, so right now they are all the longshoremen
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  Speaker 1: are striking, right?
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  Speaker 2: They are on the, from the top of Maine, I
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  Speaker 2: think to, uh, uh, the foothold in Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. And what is that about?
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  Speaker 2: It's about, you know, it's like anything else, you know,
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  Speaker 2: longshoremen provide goods and services. So, uh, imports and exports
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  Speaker 2: coming in, they work in the, they work on the dock.
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  Speaker 2: They work in the ports and the docks.
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  Speaker 1: Like James J. Braddock like that.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And, um, Their contract expired the other night, but
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  Speaker 2: their last contract was settled in October of 2018. So
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  Speaker 2: they worked through the pandemic. There's longshoremen that lost their lives.
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  Speaker 2: There's longshoremen that can never go back to work because
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  Speaker 2: of the ill effects of COVID. But they were out
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  Speaker 2: there in the trenches providing goods and service when supply
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  Speaker 2: chain was basically almost coming to a stop. And all
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  Speaker 2: these shipping lines, all these big corporations.
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  Speaker 1: Benefited all them being there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, let's, let's reward the people
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  Speaker 2: that made us a success. Let's reward the people that
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  Speaker 2: provided goods and services country. Let's reward the people that
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  Speaker 2: risk their lives and the safety of their families to
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  Speaker 2: go to work so that we all have everything. And
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  Speaker 2: now it's their time, their contract expired. These shipping lines
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  Speaker 2: are making, you know, gazillions of dollars and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they want what's due to them. And, you know, it's funny,
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  Speaker 2: you see this criticism online and, you know, social media
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  Speaker 2: is great, but it's all, it's just, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: fake shits on there. I'm reading it this morning and
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  Speaker 2: looking at it this morning, and they're attacking the Longshoremen
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  Speaker 2: for striking. People are saying, well, they're gonna drive up inflation.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna cause all the supply chain problems. They are,
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  Speaker 2: but do you want these greedy corporations to keep making
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  Speaker 2: millions upon millions of dollars? But the biggest threat right
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  Speaker 2: now is artificial intelligence to the Longshoremen. If you look
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  Speaker 2: what they're doing in the ports in China, Everything's automated.
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  Speaker 2: There's no jobs.
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  Speaker 1: Or semi-automated at least.
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  Speaker 2: These are legacy industries that provide, they're a 130-year industry
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  Speaker 2: where they provide middle-class jobs to people and they're getting
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  Speaker 2: attacked because people are getting a little inconvenienced. Well, you
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  Speaker 2: know what? A little inconvenienced, maybe it'll give some support
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  Speaker 2: to these workers and hold the people accountable that caused
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  Speaker 2: the strike. Everybody says, oh, the ILA's striking. No, the
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  Speaker 2: shipping lines that don't want to, protect the jobs that
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  Speaker 2: don't want to reward these people that made them a
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  Speaker 2: success chose to strike themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right. They chose it.
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  Speaker 1: Right. They could have made a, yeah. Everybody says they're
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  Speaker 1: the one striking. No, it's this other group that's not
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  Speaker 1: choosing to pay, not choosing to come to the table,
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  Speaker 1: not choosing to share. Um, like the, like, yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: you said, not choosing to share with the people that
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  Speaker 1: have made, made it happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, they're making billions upon billions of dollars,
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  Speaker 2: you know? So, I mean, it's like, you know, there's not,
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  Speaker 2: not a whole lot of sympathy from us. Yeah. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: as far as corporations and these shipping lines go.
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  Speaker 1: And so is that a lot of what the ILA
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  Speaker 1: strike is over? It's obviously the fears of automation, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Fears of automation is everywhere. I mean, that's a huge,
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  Speaker 2: huge threat to the ILA. But also, I mean, look,
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  Speaker 2: you know, everybody's saying, you know, there's people, criticisms online and, oh,
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  Speaker 2: Longshore will make $ 140, 000 a year. That might be true.
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  Speaker 2: But when you start out, you're starting out at $ 20
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  Speaker 2: per hour, right? And you look at $ 20 an hour
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  Speaker 2: and today would that get you?
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  Speaker 1: That's nothing.
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  Speaker 2: And then, you know, if they're making $ 140, 000, they're working 70,
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  Speaker 2: 80 hours per week. So, you know, there's not a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot of, you know, quality time at home with
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  Speaker 2: your family. They have to work. And $ 140, 000 is a
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  Speaker 2: great income, but you put two kids, you get college,
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  Speaker 2: you've got a mortgage, it doesn't go a long way. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's time that, you know, we close that
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  Speaker 2: gap between, you know, the CEO's pay and in this case,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: the longshoreman's pay.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think cause what I don't understand is at
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: what point is tech value valuable to us as a society?
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: It's like, do you want, like, I don't want to
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: be a society that there's 11 people watching some robots
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: do stuff. That's what it feels like we're headed towards.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: It feels like at a certain point you would stop
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: some technology because it doesn't, it kills your society. It
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: kills like the part of you that goes to work,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: the part of you that comes back, that support your family, that, um,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: gives inspiration to your kids because they see their parents working.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's almost crazy to me sometimes how we
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: keep pushing our, our society towards advancement. If it's not,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: if we'll no longer be a society, then does that
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: make any sense?
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: It's, it's a society of convenience. That's the problem, you know,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: and people don't realize the consequences of technology at sometimes,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, look to your point, you know,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: your product, your environment, if you have a hardworking mom
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: and dad that get up every day and go to
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: do a, middle-class job. That's what you want to do.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: That's what you want to aspire to do. This technology,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: although we know technology is coming, we know technology is
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: relevant in certain arenas, but there's still a lot of
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: value to the best computer in the world. That's a
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: human's brain and your instinct. There's got to be an opportunity,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: even if technology comes in to a certain extent, to
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: create jobs as a result of technology. Those 11 people
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: you referenced watching robots, well, at some point in time,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: the technology will get so good that those 11 people
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: will be out of a job as well. So it's like,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: come on, let's slow this thing down. Let's figure out
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: an opportunity to keep these jobs and give people an
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: opportunity that may not have an opportunity to go to college,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: that may not have the ability to be proficient in technology,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: but have a great work ethic and got a moral
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: compass that wants to go in and give a hard
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: day's work for a fair day's pay. So, you know,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: that's the stuff we've got to look at. And, you know,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: as a country, we're so short-sighted on the damage of technology.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you talk about autonomous vehicles, do you
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: want a commercial vehicle, 80,000 pounds going down the street
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: next to your family of four with no human driver present?
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some guy's just, yeah, an indie or something. He
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: has a– A joystick. iPad or something. Yeah. He has
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: like an Xbox controller or something.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a catastrophic accident. I mean, you know,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: and then you check the guy's browser. You know, you
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: really don't want to look at that.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got some other windows open, you know.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: He's got VR goggles on over there.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Looking at past P. Diddy Potties and stuff like that.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? He's over there smoking out
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: of his own nut sack over there. A lot of
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: perverts over there in India and all over the globe.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to single them out. I'm perverted. But
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: what was something I was going to ask you about? Oh,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: so recently we had Bernie Sanders on, and he talked
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: about a shorter work week and about giving proceeds from
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: automation to the workers because they're the ones who have
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: gotten us to that point as well.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, there's a– There's a, Bernie's the best.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I love Bernie. I think he's a little mad at
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: me right now. He's yelled at me in a couple
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: of Senate hearings, like flared up. But, you know, he
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: is truly committed to working class people. There's no doubt
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: about it. You know, we're, as a team sort of organization,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: you know, we negotiate contracts based on 40 hours per week.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: But there are some, you know, industries that would like
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: a 32 hour work week paid 40 hours. which, you know, that's, that's,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: that's going to be a, that's going to be a
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: tough fight moving forward. You know, my thing is we've
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: got to protect, preserve and improve what we already have
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: And right.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Cause once you start giving away some hours, you never
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: get it back.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: You never get it back right here. It says Senator
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, chairman of the Senate committee on uh, health, education, labor,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: and pensions announced that this Thursday he will introduce legislation
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: to establish a standard 32 hour work week. Uh, Sanders
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: said moving to a 32 hour work week with no
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: loss of pay is not a radical idea today. American
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: workers are over 400% more productive than they were in
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: the 1940s. And he means that the output is because
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: also of automation, but automation is taking the people's jobs.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: So then it's like, it only makes fair sense to
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: compensate the people whose jobs are being taken.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: And that's obviously a great justification for it. But the
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: reality of it is most of our members have to
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: work 50 or 60 hours a week and have to
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: have overtime. So that's an issue that I think we'll
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: be dealing with down the road, but there is no
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: doubt that we should be fighting to create jobs as
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: a result of technology being implemented, not destroy them. Yeah.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Bernie's the best. I mean, he is hilarious.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: He's very, he's very entertaining, man. He's very entertaining. I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: know you had an issue, uh, with, um, Mac, Mac, Malachowski.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: What was that guy's name?
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Mark Wayne Mullen.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Mark Wayne Mullen. We'll get to it in a second.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: And we'll definitely, we'll put up a, um, we'll put
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: up a link if people want to watch you guys
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: fight where people can lease it. But, um, And we'll
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: give the money, we'll give the proceeds to you guys too.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need that. I'll do that one for nothing.
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  Speaker 1: the Longshoremen strike that we should know, do you feel like?
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's important to know that it's not
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: the Longshoremen's fault that they're on strike. It's the shipping
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: company's fault. And the media is so out of whack
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: at times in creating these scenarios saying that this is
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: a political stunt versus one party versus the other. Their
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: contract expired two days ago. It just so happens it's
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: in an election year. And look, this strike could end
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: real quick. If these greedy shipping lines just give the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: members what they deserve and what they demand and it'll
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: be over.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: We also, if you think about it, it's like you
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: always hear like the term, the shipping heiress or the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: shipping air. You don't hear like the teamsters heiress, you know,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: what even fucking side are people on? Like to, to
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: be on the side of just these, just people that
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: have so much, you know, and at a point it's
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: just obvious greed. Yeah, I don't think it's unbelievable, man.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: And it's unbelievable that our country starts to feel like
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that's that's the side it's on. Yeah. I mean, it
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: really feels like even just as a regular person, like
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: nobody is support. It's it's all a sham. A lot
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: of times it feels like I mean, everybody knows that
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: like these the lobbies are so big now that that
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: they control so much. But it's like at some point
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: you would think there would be a break for the
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: common man, you know?
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what we're trying to do. I mean, that's
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: why we've been working so hard. If you see what
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: we're doing. all over the country with the UPS agreement, Anheuser-Busch,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: record agreements, negotiating strong contracts. We're trying to close that disparity.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Right now we've got a big battle going on with
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: United Airlines, right? Which, you know, we're telling all these politicians,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw my statement the other day,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: stay the fuck out of our business. Let us do
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: our thing. And I always say to people, the neighborhood
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I grew up in, which had a lot of conflict
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: in it, if there were two people fighting in the
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: middle of the street and you had nothing to do
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: with it, Keep walking. It's going to end at some
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: point one way or the other. And that's the struggle.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: But our whole focus on what we've been doing as
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: a union, and look, I'm a fourth-generation team, so I
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: love this fucking union. It's given me everything in my
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: entire life. But the one thing that we need to
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: do is advocate for working people. And you know what?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: People say, why should I join a union? Why should
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: you join a union? Because we're going to get you
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: better wages. We're going to get you the best benefits.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: But more importantly, we're going to demand respect in the workplace,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: and we're going to fight for you day in and
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: day out. And look, the ILA right now, that's all
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: they're doing. That is all they're doing. They want respect.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: And to your point, there's no Harris, however you say it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, princess or something.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Princess, yeah.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Just take a look at us, whether it's LA or Teamsters,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: We're not royalty, man. Yeah, I've been to Boston. They
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: got some definitely, you'll see a broad out there wearing
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: a Euclid's jersey, you know what I'm saying?
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a lot of us from Boston have
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: fucking faces for radio.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Oh, you see a lot of, yeah, yeah.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: A lot of, yeah, a lot of fucking women that
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: are just fucking vaping and just. giving hand jobs or whatever,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: but it's okay.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Don't forget the tube top with the C-section.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude, that's the new Teamsters logo. No, God forbid.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: No, we've got, listen, the Teamsters union, we got some
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: of the finest, hottest working women and they're the strongest.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: No, I'm joking.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: And look, let them fucking play baseball again, dude. You
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I would love to see if the union had a league.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, it'd be nice, wouldn't it?
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Do you guys have a team?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: A baseball team?
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Well, it's called the Red Sox, but I don't know
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: if they're any good right now.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: They didn't even make the playoffs, did they?
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: No, they didn't.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: No.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: But actually, screw you guys. You guys have had so
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: much luck, dude. I can't believe you make that much
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: money selling cheese and stuff. What all do they have
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: over there, Kraft? Bring it up, Kraft Goods.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: No, Kraft actually started. It's a unionized paper company.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, it is?
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's out of Boston or Worcester, which is
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: probably 45 miles west of Boston. The Krafts are actually
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: very good in the community in Boston, but that's- That's
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: not the same family.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, it isn't?
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: No.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, damn. Every time I've– that's crazy because every time
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I'm cheering against the Pats, I'm always yelling like, fuck
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Lunchables and shit. And I didn't even realize that.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Crustables? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I thought it was the same guy.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: It's not?
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no. They're very good. They're
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: very good in the community.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know. I got to– yeah.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I filled out some comment cards on some of these
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: websites too. I got to go back and take back.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Clean it up.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Especially when they had Randy Moss. Yeah, I was really
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: heavy on the keys back then.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: How funny was he?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's great, dude. Dude, I went to a fishing
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: tournament one time and– I'm not supposed to tell this story,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: but I will. And so I went to a fishing
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: tournament one time. Randy Moss put on a fishing tournament.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: This is when he was with the Vikings. And you
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: got put– with like some fishermen and stuff. And you
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: would go out, it was in Minnetonka, Minnesota on the lake.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: And I stayed up all night drinking.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And so I get out there and I, I'm like,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to be there for 30 minutes
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, like I'm fishing with my grandparents
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: or something. And they're like, yeah, it's a six hour thing.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh dude. And I had like the whore,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: like I had to go to the bathroom so bad,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: you know? And, um, and so I, at some point
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: They're like, well, just pee off the side of the boat,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: but I don't have to pee. You know, I had
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: to fucking do a union job, you know? And so
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: at some point, dude, I just had to literally have
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: them troll a little and just hang myself off the
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: side of the boat and just.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Did you have any dude wipes, man?
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, no. They didn't even have dude wipes then.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: That must have been awful.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I just had to kind of hold my legs open
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: and let the water go through fast, you know?
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: It was like a redneck bidet.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, God.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: But thank God, dude. And we didn't catch anything. I
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: couldn't even pull a fish without having to go to
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the back. Like, the second something would tug on there,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, I had damn 40 in the live well,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Do you think it had anything to do with what
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: you were drinking the night before?
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: 100%. What were you drinking? Jägermeister.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Oof.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: It was– and it was disgusting and it was– God,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I just– I still can't– I can't believe that whoever,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: whatever company sentenced Jägermeister on humanity.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, terrible.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: That's terrorism. We don't want to say it out loud,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: but it's terrorism. The dock worker– who's their leader over there?
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Harold Daggett. Yeah, that guy's a freaking– that guy's awesome, dude.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: He's taking some heat. Oh, yeah. He's taking some heat.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Good. Let him take some heat, dude. Yeah. That guy
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: is fucking awesome. Play this video real quick. Sorry to
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: interrupt you, Sean. I just want to hear the Daggett.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Daggett's stand, dude. This guy's a gangster.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: It's changing into the future. They're not making millions no more.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: They're making billions. And they're spending it fast as they
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: make it. I want a piece of that for my men.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Because when they made their most money was during COVID.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: When my men had to go to work on those
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: piers every single day when everybody stayed home and went
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: to work. Not my men. They died out there with
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: the virus. We all got sick with the virus. We
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: kept them going. From Canada to Maine to Texas, Great Lakes,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Puerto Rico, now the Bahamas, everybody went to work during COVID.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Nobody stayed home.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I want to be compensated for that.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Amen.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not asking for the world. They know what I want.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: They know what I want.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: And if they don't, well, Then I have to go
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: into the street and we have to fight for what
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: we rightfully deserve.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Fuck yeah.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: These people today don't know what a strike is.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: When my men hit the streets from Maine to Texas,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: every single port, a lockdown.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: You know what's going to happen? That's good.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: And what, so yeah, when, when they, and when he
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: says a lockdown, what, what's, that would affect everything, right?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The ports are just shut down. There's nothing coming
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: in or out. And, You know, we represent a lot
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: of members that, you know, we haul off the ports.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: The ports deliver to warehouses where it's separated, load on trucks,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: we deliver it. So it's going to have an impact.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: But you know what? It's a short-term pain for long-term
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: gain for these guys. And he's 100% accurate. I mean, look,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: we get paid to fight. We get paid to fight
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: for our members. and that's what he's doing. Look, he's
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: a character.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Have you spoken to him?
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: So I haven't, but I deal with the leadership around
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the country. That's the only general president I haven't met
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: that we deal with. I know all the other general
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: presidents around the country from all the other respective unions,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: and I haven't met him. I mean, the good news
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: is he's so public right now. It's keeping the shit
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: away from me to be honest with you.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I've been taking a lot of it lately, but I'm
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: good either way, you know, I'm good. But, uh, no,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: he's look, he's, he's got a right, he's got the
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: right fight. Yeah.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: It sounds like, it sounds like they got the right
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: guy doing it, you.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Know, cast the characters. He's, you know, straight out of
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: the Sopranos, you know?
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I fucking hope they find some bodies in
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: his yard.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Hopefully they don't.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You're right. And I shouldn't say that. Sorry, Harold.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what he's into. You
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? But yeah, yeah. That's what I'm
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: saying is dude, they got to, it's just, it's a,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: That's one of the things that starts to happen is
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it's like if you don't think that automation, there's no
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: effect to it, right? Then it's just there's a human
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: cost to that. There's a human cost to it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Look when you go into a grocery store now, right?
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Everybody's running to these self-checkouts. I refuse to do it.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: And I was actually in a local grocery store probably
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: about a year ago, and it was like late at night, and,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: you know, my– I was– I forget why I was
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: going in there, just got off a flight and I
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: got something real quick and there was an older lady
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: standing there at the register and I go to go
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: to her. She's like, go over there, go to the automation,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: go over that one, self-checkout.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: And she was working.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I go, listen, if I go on a self-checkout, you're
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: going to lose your job. She's like, I don't give
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: a shit. I don't like this fucking job anyway. So
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: it was probably something she's doing. I'm like, listen, lady,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I know you might not like it, but let's think
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: about the fucking 30 other people that need a job
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: that come. If I go there, then I'm putting you
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: out of work. I don't give a shit. I'm like,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: the problem is it's like, Some people.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: She's like, I'm on OnlyFans. You're like, you're not on OnlyFans.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. Elderly version. What is it? The Golden Bachelorette? Oh, yeah.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I haven't watched it, but I have a little. I'll
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: confess I haven't either.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: And I probably won't.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, but no, it's just people.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. You don't think about it.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: No, you don't. And people, you know, disgruntled or like
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: that lady might have been having a bad night. you know,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: whatever it was.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, she might have been out of Zins, too, dude.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she might have been, yeah.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're working that late shift, dude, you got
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: to put anything in your jaw to get you through
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: the night.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: But the problem is, like, she was in her late 70s,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: and it just goes to show you, like, hey, if
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: you got in a union, you got a job, you
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: got a pension, you wouldn't fucking be working at 70
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: years old. Yeah, that's a great point. And it's like,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: you know, you're pointing at, you're pointing for me to
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: go to a self-checkout, and I'm like, you're putting people
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: out of work. I don't give a shit.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Fuck that.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, she ran out of Paul Malls.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck that. Go Raiders. She starts fucking yelling. Yeah,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: she probably spends all her money on fucking tattoos, you know?
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Marlboros and fucking scratch tickets and shit, you know?
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, remember they used to have those miles you would
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: get with the Marlboros? Remember that?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. You'd smoke 400,000 packs of cigarettes to
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: get a Camel Joe jacket. Yeah.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: That you got to wear to your funeral.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: They put you in that thing.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get like a blender that said keep smoking
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: on the side of it.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, I remember growing up in my neighborhood,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Pepsi did this thing. And remember that story that was
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: on fucking Netflix? The kid won a space shuttle or something.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the kid won a space shuttle.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Right, so I remember there was a kid in my
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: neighborhood that, you know, he was so, his kid's name
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: was Mike Lazaro. And he was like crazy. Like, you know,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: you'd peel the cap off and you'd be a prize.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I swear the kid had dentures by the time he
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: was 15. He was drinking so much. pepsi just slurping
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: them on yeah oh it's crazy.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah dude this oh yeah what yeah what prizes could
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you get with the marlboro miles bring up the prizes
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: dude we never look at this kind of stuff and
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: i think this is important just to know back in
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: the day you had to smoke your way.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Did they have like marlboro running sneakers.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: That unbelievable there's no way they had that.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Like a gift to like a lung transplant.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Swiss army knife, neck brace. Who the fuck wants a
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Marlboro neck brace? Like, at that, like, unbelievable hat, shirt.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Marlboro ventilator.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that Marlboro thing like this. We're doing good,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Spark up another. Those commercials are awful.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Bring up the guy smoking through the hole in his throat, huh?
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: And this guy's obviously from, yeah, this guy's obviously from Medford.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Bring him up. And there he is. And that used
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: to be a man. That's how bad smoking can get, guys.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I think that was my English teacher in high school.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. A-E-I-O-U.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Sometimes white.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Dude, I didn't ever... I remember there was this kid.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I used to tell this story, but there's this kid
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: who lived down the street from us. His fellow Mario
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: was his name. And he was Italian, I think, or semi-Italian,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you know? And he used to.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: My brother, something happened. My brother had to go away
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: for the summer. So suddenly I was his friend. Like
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I was, but I was younger than my brother. I
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: don't know if he went to jail, but he went
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: to a place where he couldn't come back for about
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: four months. And so I got, so suddenly I'm friends
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: with Mary. It's like the, the, the, I would tag
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: around with them, but I wasn't right there. So now
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I'm friends with this dude and he, uh, I don't
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: know if this is like a union thing or not,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: but he would like, he used to defecate in his
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: yard and make me bury it.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Make me put it in the ground for him.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Subcontracted the workout.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: That's why I wish I'd have known at the time
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: because yeah, I did over probably, I did at least
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: 112 burials for this dude, right? Over about, over that stint,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: over that third of the year. And, and then actually
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: years later he died. He drove a boat into an
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: embankment and, uh, I wanted to be a pallbearer at
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: his funeral. And I even wrote a letter to his mom,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and I was like, I'd love to put him in
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: the ground one more time, you know?
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: And they wouldn't let me, dude. But if I was
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: in a union. Yeah.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, you could probably go after him for retro
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: pay and shit.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: All the time, you know?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude, definitely. And the rose bushes in his yard?
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: What are we even talking about? Prize winning, brother.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, Jesus Christ.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: They won yard of the month fucking.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: You definitely needed a union back then.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Bro, they won yard of the month in a leap year, dude.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: And that's big work. And that was me doing that.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Listen, you contributed to that. You should be proud.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: But it is true. It's gotten to the point where
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: people don't even think about the people that are doing
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the jobs behind the scenes, you know? And people that
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: are going in and clocking in day to day, you know?
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: You look at like, so we represent UPS, which is,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: you know, a Fortune 500 company. 340,000 employees, very successful company,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: difficult company to deal with. And 53 or 54% of
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: those workers are part-timers. They work four in the morning
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: till eight or noon till four or whatever the case
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: may be. And they load and unload these trucks. And
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: prior to us, you know, completing successful negotiation, they were
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: making $ 15 per hour nationwide.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: You had single mothers, you know, going to work there,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: you know, risking their lives during COVID. They were the
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: unsung heroes of keeping supply chain moving. And, you know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: it was a very, very credible argument that we had
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: publicly that, but the company recognized it. And during negotiations,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say, how embarrassing is it that you're
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: making a hundred million, a hundred billion dollars with a
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: B and you have people that are on subsidized housing,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: you have people that are on welfare that work for you. And,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: and I'll be honest with you, like we push real
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: hard and part-timers start out at $ 21 an hour. The
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: long-term part-timers are being rewarded. Um, they get full medical,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: full pensions. So, you know, they recognized, you know, um,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: that they need to take care of these folks. And
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of pushing and prodding from us, but at
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, they did the right thing
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: by these part-timers.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: And who are the major groups that are pushing back
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: against you guys? Is it lobbies? Is it politicians? Is
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: it just big business?
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: It's, I'll tell you, it's a combination of corporate America,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: and I refer to them all the time as fucking
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: white-collar criminals. Yeah. Right, that all they do is care
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: about the bottom line, the balance sheet.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Money, that's what I say, dude.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Right. Right. Right.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: And so, you know, just so you know that nobody, yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: So then, yeah, I mean, fucking prostitutes.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: And then you have, you know, these politicians, both sides,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Democrats and Republicans. And I'll be honest with you. I'm
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: a Democrat, but they have fucked us over for the
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: last 40 years. And for once, and not all of them,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: but for once we're standing up as a union, probably
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: the only one right now saying, what the fuck have
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: you done for us?
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: And I'm getting attacked from the left. You know, and
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: we've given, since I've been in office two and a
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: half years, we've given the Democratic machine $ 15. 7 million. We've
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: given Republicans about $ 340, 000, truth be told. So it's like,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: you know, people say the Democratic Party is the party
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: of the working people. They're bought and paid for by
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: big tech, those big tech companies.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tech is the new fossil fuel, man. That's what
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I say.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: And you've got the Republicans who are now saying, hey,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: we want to be the working class party, right? And okay,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: you've got a great opportunity right now to do that.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: And the Democrats, if 60% of our members aren't supporting you,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: the fucking system's broken. They needed to fix it. Stop
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: pointing fingers at Sean O'Brien. Stop pointing fingers at the
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Teamsters Union. Look in the mirror. I mean, I had
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: a heated debate with, heated discussion two weeks ago with
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer. And it got fucking ugly.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer is a piece of shit.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: And it got ugly because, you know, these politicians, you know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: the one thing I've learned, They fucking walk in and
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: they tell you, I did this for you.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, great.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you what you haven't fucking done for
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: us or our members. And we got into it pretty heavy.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, you had no problem taking $ 550, 000 from
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: me three weeks prior to me going on the Republican
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: National Convention. And then you want to be a fucking
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: tough guy on Twitter or X or whatever it is
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: and throw shit out there about me? Like, whatever.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: To support the party, support the campaign. The Teamsters Union
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: has historically endorsed– A candidate, right? A presidential candidate. And
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: this is one of the first times.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Two times we haven't. 1976, we didn't endorse. In 1996,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: we didn't endorse.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, so the first time in 30 years now that
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you guys haven't done it.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: And again, the reason why we didn't endorse in 1996, Clinton,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: because we endorsed him in 92. And look, he created NAFTA.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: And it fucked a lot of our members over. And
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: we lost jobs as a result of it. So we
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: couldn't endorse.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Why would he do it, though? Why?
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Because who are they beholden to? Even though they say,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: we're beholden to working people, we're beholden to middle class,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: we're beholden to American worker, they're beholden to, look, all
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: this money and the next opportunity, right? Because you're not
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: there a long time, right? And the next opportunity, it's like,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: what's his name? The guy that looks like fucking Bradley Cooper,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: the governor of California, Newsom. That guy is bought and
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: paid for by big tech. He had the opportunity to
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: protect the general public and his constituents from AI, from
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: autonomous vehicles, from all this bullshit that we talked about earlier.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: And we, the union men and women, actually got him
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: to stay in office as a result of that recall.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: We went out and worked hard for him. And what's
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: he do? He fucking vetoes all these protections against artificial intelligence,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: against Uber, against Lyft, all these all this bullshit, and
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: these are the people that we were supporting. Are you
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: shitting me? Seriously.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: So they're turning their back on you.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: They're turning their back on us. So listen, I can't
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: speak for any other unions, but I'm going to speak
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: for the Teamsters Union. I represent 1.3 million members, and
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: we've said all along, we took over, we want a
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: return on our investment. We want to be like big business.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: We make an investment, we want a return. And that return,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: what these politicians are, supporting our issues, that's going to
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: protect jobs and promote unionization throughout the whole country. And
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: They've let us down. They've let us down. And you
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: know what? I'm a person. I think it's probably to
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: my own fault. My mother keeps saying, you keep fighting
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: with all these fucking politicians. You're going to get us
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: all audited. Well, that's okay, right?
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Audit? I thought kill, but that's how they do it first.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: They better get up early. Can't kill the willing. You
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. I'll take my own life.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Now what?
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: I showed you.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: And I'll do it on the clock.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I'll still be on the clock. You bet, dude.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: You don't think I'm clocking out for you, dude.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I'll be on double time.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: We'll let nothing run, brother. Absolutely.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, it's just people got to step up.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: California Governor Gavin Newsom vetoed a Teamsters-backed bill that would
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: have effectively banned autonomous trucks in the state.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know how many people there are in California?
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: But what does it say? Assembly Bill 2286 would have
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: prohibited the operation of autonomous vehicles weighing 10,000 pounds or
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: more on public roads for testing, transporting goods, or carrying passengers.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: without a human safety operator physically present in the vehicle.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: There should be somebody in the vehicle anyway. Because that
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: thing's also going to get hijacked, dude. You think MS-13
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: is going to want a bunch of carrots or whatever's
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: passing through? They're going to fucking shoot, dude. They sent
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: one of those little gypsy cruises with the... It's like
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: a Datsun B210 loaded up. It was a little R2D2,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: but it was kind of aftermarket slightly, you know? And
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: they had one of those rolling through the hood one
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: time with some ice creams in it or something you
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: could buy out of it. And 11 brothers beat the
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: shit out of that thing. So there's no, what are
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: they even talking about, dude? This shit will get hijacked
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: so quick. But then you're going to have to put
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: a gunner on the top of the, you know what
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? Like, it's just getting weird. Bring that back up, please, Trevin.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you, bud. It's important to note that 35 jurisdictions,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: including Arizona, Nevada, Texas, Washington, and the District of Columbia,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: have already authorized the testing of heavy-duty autonomous vehicles. Wow,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: that's what Newsom said. California remains the only state to
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: actively prohibit these vehicles. But it's also a huge state
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: where there's so much agriculture and stuff. And there's a
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: huge port over there as well, right?
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, LA Port, Long Beach. You've got some
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: big ports over there. So they're not on strike. They're
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: under a different union. They're the ILWU. But same issues.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll be fighting the same battle down the road.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: But yeah, this is the stuff that we're fighting against.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: And look, these politicians, you know, they gotta realize that
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: the constituents don't work for them, they work for the constituents.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: And that's what they have to be reminded of. And
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of good ones that do a lot
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: of great work. Like, you know, we've got a great relationship.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: And our goal is to try and work bipartisan. Because
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: that's the only way we're gonna get shit done, right? And,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: you know, there's been a line drawn in the sand.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: And our focus has been as a union, and mine
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: as a leader, is like, look, we can fucking agree
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: to disagree on a lot of shit, and we're gonna,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: but let's agree on the stuff that we can. and
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: get some stuff done in this country. Get some real,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: real progressive legislation that we can work together on. But
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: the focus has been lost, and the whole system's a
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: fucking disgrace, to be honest with you.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. And it's time to shake these pedophiles down, dude.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: That's how I feel. What else does it say on here?
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: The Teamsters Union issued a statement criticizing Newsom's veto. The
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: vast majority of Californians oppose unregulated, unaccountable driverless cars and
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: trucks on the road, dude. Yes. There's already so many Yeah,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: it's like, because then if somebody hits you, what do
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: you just, you can't even sue anybody? You're just what?
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: You're like, that guy hit me and the cop's like, who?
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: And you're like, ah, fucking nobody.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Why do they need cops? What do you need cops for?
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: You can't write anybody up. I mean, that's another thing,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: public safety. It's crazy and it's like.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: It's going to get bad.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to get ugly and we're going to
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: be a world of robots if people like us don't
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: step up and hold these politicians accountable.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Look, I'll eat beans, man. I'll do what I got
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: to do for as long as it takes, brother. If
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: there's no, yeah. As long as I got, I guess, candles,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: I guess. What else do I? Yeah, we'd have to
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: have candles, water.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Dude wipes.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Dude wipes for sure, you know, unless you're not eating,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: you know, unless it gets that bad. You're not wiping,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Save money on both ends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, yeah,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: we're going to have to get some stuff.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. That's why we got these shirts made up,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: you know? Yeah. Yeah.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I'd love to get one of those, man.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: You're going to have one by the time I leave
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: here today.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Amen, dude. You see that?
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: See, we deliver. Results, not excuses.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they deliver results, not excuses. Take me through some
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: of the decision and what it was like behind the
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: scenes to make the choice not to endorse a candidate.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Well, look, the one thing that we pride ourselves on
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: when we took over as leaders was transparency and inclusiveness, right?
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: So when you have 1.3 million members, it's important to
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: make certain you understand their perspective because that's who our
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: employer is. That's who we work for. That's who gives
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: me the opportunity and privilege to represent them. And we
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: went through, for the first time ever, we brought every
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: single candidate in from the beginning. And we invited every
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: one of them from Dr. Cornel West all the way,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: former President Donald Trump, former President Biden, and then VP Harris,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: and everybody in between. RFK, who, I love that guy.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I love that guy, too.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: That guy's awesome, man. He's the best. And we brought
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: them all in in a roundtable, first time ever. with
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: rank and file members, you know, eight to 10 of
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: them from various parts of the country, various political affiliations.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: And we asked them specific questions that were important to us. And,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: you know, at the end of the day, we did,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: we did, we did the meetings there. Then we did polling,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: straw polling, you know, in the union halls. And then
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: we did a electronic polling, 1.3 million of our members
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: QR code where we had over 40,000 members participate, which
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: is huge. And then we did, scientific-based polling using the
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Democratic pollster that the Biden-Harris campaign used. And the only
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: poll that was favorable was the poll we did, the
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: straw poll in the union halls, which was polling 44%
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Biden and 38% Trump. So the other polls were 60,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: 62% Republican.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: And so- In favor of Trump?
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: In favor of Trump, yes. Even, we sent the electronic
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: polling after um, you know, president Biden dropped out of, uh,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: out of the race. And look, Biden's been, Biden's been
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: great for unions, working people. Um, but you know, the
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: reality of it is, you know, he's gone, he's gone,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: he's gone. And, you know, again, it's, it's like, you know,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: we've got to, we've got to take into consideration our members, uh, opinions.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: And I don't have the beauty of leaning one way
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: or the other. I have to represent both democratic members
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: and also Republican members. And quite frankly, when I spoke
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: at the RNC, that's when the attack started happening from
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: the Democratic left and the Republican right.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Wait, so just to back up, just so I'm clear, Sean,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: and so a straw poll means?
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: It means you go to the union halls. We have
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: 319 union halls nationwide.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: So you actually have an in-person meeting town hall where
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: you get to actually control the meeting, right? You control
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: the narrative, but our members get to vote in a
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: secret ballot And, you know, when you have meetings like
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: that straw poll, usually you can put your thumb on
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: the scale and flip it either way. We thought we
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: were going to come out of there with, you know,
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: a Joe Biden at 80% and the rest, because, you know, there,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: y'all people coming in there for the most part that
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: show up there, y'all people that work on your staff.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: And when it only pulls 44%, you know, something's wrong,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: something's broken. So that's why we started doing extensive polling.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Which is usually the unions are extremely democratic.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: You're saying, okay, I see what you're saying now.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Um, The Teamsters polling data shows members backed Biden 44%
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: to Trump's 36.3%. So that's more lopsided than usual.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Well, we were thinking that it was going to be
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: 80% Biden because, you know, the people that show up
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: at union halls for union meetings and any type of
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: meetings are usually your supporters, are usually the people that
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: are going to vote or follow your recommendations or whatever.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, their children dress up like plumbers and stuff
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: for– Halloween and everything.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Well, we do check their membership cards, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Well,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: some of them get in when they're 11 teen. I'm
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: only kidding.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Um, okay. So at that point you realize, okay, so
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: things are a little bit more, there's people have different opinions.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: There's a divide. There's a, there's a divide. So then
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: at that point, did you make the decision to not
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: support a candidate or?
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: No, we, we, we took all the data and, you know,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: historically the team says union is never, ever endorsed a
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: presidential candidate until after both respective conventions are concluded. So
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: we asked to speak at the Republican and Democratic. Obviously,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: we spoke at the Republican. And then we didn't get
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: invited to the Democratic National Convention.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Did they get back to you? So you asked to
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: speak at both?
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they never got back to us. They never got
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: back to us.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: And you email them or text them?
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, we called them. We sent the invitation. We sent
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: the request to speak at both conventions at the same time.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: And we heard from the Republican National Convention right away. Now, look,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: going in there was like, it wasn't easy. It was
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: like going into an ex-girlfriend's house whose family hates you
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: because of a bad breakup on Thanksgiving and saying, how
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: are you all doing? Oh, wow. It wasn't a comfortable feeling.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: But like I said to everybody else, when we get
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: the opportunity to highlight American workers and or Teamsters.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: You have to do it.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: We're going to do it on any and all platforms
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: there are, whether we're welcome or we're not. And we
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: wanted to do the same at the Democratic National Convention.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: We didn't get that opportunity. So to get back to
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: your point was after we did all the scientific polling,
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: after the conventions, we have a general executive board, which
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: are 24 leaders from all around the country, vice presidents
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: and presidents. Teams of leaders?
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: They make up the general executive board. So we presented
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: all the polling data. We had, you know, spirited debate
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: and dialogue, very respectful. And at the end of the day,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: you know, there were three people that voted to endorse
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: the Harris-Waltz campaign. And the majority of the rest of
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: the executive board voted to not endorse and allow local
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: unions and area joint councils to go out and, you know,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: endorse whoever they wanted. And, you know, again, you get
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: criticized no matter what you do. So But it was
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: the right decision because both candidates, Harris and former President Trump,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: didn't answer specific questions of what was important to us.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Like for example, so which ones?
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: So it's like our right to strike. Like right now,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: you see the ILA on strike. We had the railroad
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: workers when we first took over two years ago. They're
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: under what they call Railway Labor Act where Congress can–
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: make a recommendation to implement the contract under the process.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: And they did it. And our members weren't happy. They
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: did it under the Biden administration. And one of our
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: biggest goals moving forward, because we've got this campaign with
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: United Airlines where they're under the same process. We want
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: the right to strike and we can get the right
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: to strike once we conclude the process. But a lot
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: of times the government will intervene and they'll obviously implement
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: a contract. So That was very important to us. Look,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: if we're in the middle of an RLA negotiation and
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: we want the right to strike, are you going to
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: support us? Are you going to stop us? It wasn't
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: a commitment from both sides on that.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: On either side, Republican or Democrat?
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: On either side on that.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Not even supporting your right to strike. That's crazy.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: That's in certain arenas under the Railway Labor Act. Airlines
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: are under the Railway Labor Act. Railroads are under the
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Railway Labor Act. Trucking industry isn't. Most private sector that
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: we represent isn't. So we still have the right to
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: strike in other arenas. But these are important. industries for us.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: So we didn't get commitments on that. One candidate may
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: have been stronger on a PRO Act, obviously supporting the
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: right to organize, supporting collective bargaining agreements. We didn't get
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: a strong commitment from the Republican side on vetoing national
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: right to work. And again, when you're face-to-face with people
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: and you're asking questions, and look, we give the questions
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: to all the candidates prior. So it's like, fucking prepare.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Lie to us. Tell us what we want to hear, right?
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: And when they can't answer the question, well, they try
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: and go around you. Look, we're pretty sophisticated now. We're
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: not as dumb as we look. And our members are
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: certainly not dumb.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some of them are on break or whatever a lot,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: but still.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some of them might be on break.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Look, that's fine, brother.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Third coffee break of the day.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: They earned it.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Thank God for the unions. Yeah, yeah. But they didn't
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: answer the question. So it's like put the polling numbers together.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: put the in-person interviews, you know, we did the right thing.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: We did the right thing by our members, no matter what.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: And I'll defend that all day long. But you know,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: the problem is it's like the good news about this
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: whole situation is you see how treacherous the far left
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: can be and the far right. And I think it's
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: fucking hilarious because, you know, don't threaten us with a
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: good time. You want to fight? Let's do it.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: You know, and you know, we'll, we'll cut their money off. We'll,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: we'll do whatever, whatever it takes. They're going to have
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: to earn it moving forward. They've done a lot of
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: personal attacks. They've done a lot of attacks on our members. And,
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: you know, we're ready to go. Whoever wins, either way,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: They're going to have to deal with you.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: They're going to have to deal with us. We control
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: commerce in this country.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, dude.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: And we're powerful. And we're not afraid to fight. We'd
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: rather just fight corporate America instead of dealing with this
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: other bullshit, which is a distraction. You know, we've had politicians, right,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: that oh, we support you. We support you. When we're
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: doing the UPS negotiations, there were some high profile people
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: and senators that claim to be the working people, the
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Schumers of the world and some others. We're pro-union. We
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: want to support unions. They wouldn't sign off on a
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: support letter for UPS workers prior to going to these negotiations.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: They wouldn't sign off of support letters while we're striking
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: these DSPs where your mom works at Amazon. So it's like,
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: What does that tell you? It means they're afraid they're
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: going to get their campaign contribution taken away from Amazon
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: and big tech. Well, don't say one thing and do another.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Be consistent. If you want to be in bed with
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: big tech, just tell us. Be transparent. You'll always hear
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: me say, the one thing I do, and this is me,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: probably to a fault, I always state my fucking intentions clearly.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: I'm going to come after you. We're going to get X, Y,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: and Z for our members. And if you don't, You're
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: choosing to strike yourself, so accept the consequences. If you're
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: going to screw us over, don't fucking hide behind false promises.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Screw us over. Tell us you're going to screw us.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: I'm happy. We'll figure out how we deal with it
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: moving forward.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck me in the face. Don't fuck me in
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: the rear or whatever, how some people do it. I
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: don't do it like that. No, no.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: No baby oil here.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. Yeah, if only Diddy would have unionized, man.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: He would have definitely violated every human– Resource, policy, and procedure.
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  Speaker 1: slash Theo. Yeah, that whole thing's crazy. I think that they,
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  Speaker 1: I think the government, Or somebody, the CIA, whoever is
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: busting him, they're going to use that as leverage to
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  Speaker 1: get people to speak out for political– speak out in
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: favor of politicians in lieu of getting exposed. I don't
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: know if that's true or not, but I just wouldn't
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: put anything past any of these organizations now. So that
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: was why you guys didn't endorse a candidate. Is there
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: still the possibility for you guys to endorse a candidate?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: No, we're not going to endorse it. We've made a
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: decision that we're going to stay out of it. and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing would change that?
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  Speaker 2: No, nothing at all. Nothing at all. Look, if we
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: change our position either way, you know, we look weak.
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  Speaker 2: We're strong.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And we're strong in our position. You know, and there's
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: people that don't agree with it. And that's fine. That's great.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: And the problem is, is like, remember one thing. Everybody's
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: opinion matters, right? Especially our membership. And I'll tell you,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: I'm so disgusted on you know the with the behavior
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: of people like attacking each other personally it's like we're
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: the we're the best country in the world which we're
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: provided the greatest freedoms in the world where we can
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  Speaker 2: say and do whatever we want within reason not breaking
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: the law and not be retaliated or retributed or any
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: retribution against us in this whole process that's complete opposite
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: of what we stand for and it's a fucking disgrace
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: people are laughing at us around the world.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: They're laughing at us because we're not taking care of
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  Speaker 1: our workers.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Workers or the communities. I mean, we're getting involved
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: in stupid shit, attacking people personally.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, you mean union members are?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: No, it's just the whole political bullshit.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: It's disgraceful.
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  Speaker 1: That they would then want to make you guys look bad.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: For workers not to get paid. But then you do
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: have people that say, well, these guys make so much
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: money and this and that. But a lot of that
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: you're saying is just bullshit. That's not the starting out salary.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: No, it's not the starting out salary. And you know,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: majority of our members are working 50 to 60 hours
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: per week. You know, life family balance doesn't exist in
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: certain industries. And we've been fighting hard to make sure
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: that we negotiate contracts that, you know, limit overtime or
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: limit people being forced to work. And, you know, people
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: might think, you know, everything is great in this country.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: There's still a lot of workers out there that are hurting.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: There's still a lot of people that are hurting, that
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: are living week to week, paycheck to paycheck. And it's
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: a disgrace. And we're giving money out left and right
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: that You know, let's take care of our workers. Let's
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: take care of the people that make it.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: If your worker's last name was Israel, you'd have all
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: the cash you needed, you know. That's for damn sure.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: But it is unfortunate. Yeah, my mom's out there. She's
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: driving a fucking catalytic converter 30 miles out into the
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: desert to drop it off, you know, deliver an auto
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: part sometimes. And, you know, and it's like she's not
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: even getting paid per mile or whatever. Just you got
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: to think about all those things, you know.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: And who's making the money? Who's doing all the work
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: and who's making the money? It's easy.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Be a big muffler or whoever. Yeah, whoever it is, dude.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: New York Amazon delivery drivers join the Teamsters in surge
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: of momentum. That's exciting. Hundreds of Amazon drivers at a
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: delivery station in Queens, New York, marched on their bosses
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: today to announce they're joining the Teamsters. I think striking
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: is fun. Do you have somebody out there with a
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: drum or something?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, we got it all. I mean, we've got strikes
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: are awesome. I mean, the one thing about strikes are
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: two things. When you strike for recognition, it sends a
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: strong message to the employer that, You know, our members
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: are united. Our members are strong and they want to
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: fight for a contract. And if you don't, we're going
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: to withhold our labor. I mean, there's a lot to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: be said about disruption and the positive effect on it.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: And look, it is what it is. And, you know,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: it's not easy at times, but you got to fight,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: you got to stand up. And it's a great litmus
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: test for us because we know how strong the group
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: is or isn't. And these Amazon workers, I got to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: tell you, they have courage and conviction like I've never
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: seen in You know, two, two and a half years ago,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: you know, we put this as a priority. We've got
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: to organize Amazon workers. And we have been working, you know,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: tirelessly around the country. And this is going to be
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: a reality. This is definitely going to be a reality.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: You know why? Because once you shut, you know, companies
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: like Amazon down or you shut a DHL down or
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: any company, you shut the ports down, it sends a
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: strong fucking message on, look, this is important. And these
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: corporations need to realize who's actually in charge. And it's
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: not them.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree, man. I long for the day that we,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: that like everybody just like all of these, like, um,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Facebook headquarters and different, um, Verizon, whatever. I don't care
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: if my cell phone doesn't work, dude.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: I don't want a cell phone anymore.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. It ruins everything.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: It's awful. It's awful.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: It's like, we've ruined kind of, it's like we let
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: technology take away so many things that were valuable to us.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: And then you see the effects of it on, on
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: children and they don't know the difference.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Um, But then you see some countries like Poland who
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: are standing up for whatever their beliefs are as a
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: country and their moral fortitude. And it's interesting. Sometimes I
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: wish that we did more stuff like that. We started
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: to realize like, hey, just because this is a technological
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: advancement or because it makes things easier, is it good
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: for us as humans?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: No, we've dummied down society.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, think about this. We talk about phones.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: I used to be able to memorize 10 of 15
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: phone numbers.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Because I'd go to a pay phone and I'd call
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: someone and I didn't have the number written down. I'd
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: have to memorize it.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Right now, I can't even tell you. I'm lucky I
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: know my own phone number because all you do is
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: just speak into a microphone in your phone and call Theo.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: I can call you. I don't even have to know
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: your number. Yeah.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: Call my bookie or whoever.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: I want a beeper. Let's get a beeper back.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Let's put pay phones back in the corner.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: Pay phones.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Be a home run.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: The best part about fade phones was when you were
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: on one and some guy, like a homeless guy or whatever, like.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: Well, someone trying to rob you, you can just hit
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: them with the receiver.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, dude. But it was never long enough.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: It would get so, it would get an inch from
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: their skull. It'd be like, oh.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Shit, now he's going to hit me.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to put in 40 more cents. and
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: you'll get like three extra inches of cord, you know?
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: And you could beat the guy, you know?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Crank calls were the best from pay phones, huh?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: Pay phones were the best also because, well, first of all,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: you used to be able to hide from people. You
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: could be like, I can't be there. Nobody could know
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: where you were. They couldn't get in touch with you
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: at all times.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Did you share your location?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: You'd have to– oh, no, I don't share my location, dude.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: I don't either. Yeah.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not sharing my location, dude. That's crazy. I don't
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: even know who would– yeah, but yeah, that's crazy. You're
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: not going to see me coming, motherfucker.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Imagine your parents tracking you like 25 years ago on
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: social media.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: No. I would have tied my phone to a cat's
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: back or whatever.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Let that bitch hit the streets.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Duct tape it to like the German Shepherd's collar and
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: run around. Oh, it would be awful. I'm 53 years old,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: and we ran wild back in the day.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: And I couldn't imagine. My mother, we ran her hard.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: We ran her hard, but I can't imagine. These fucking
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: idiots put everything on social media now, and it's like, really?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: We used to be able to lie.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: They rat themselves out.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: People rat that. They tell their boss they can't come
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: into work and then they're partying or something. Buffalo wild
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: wings or whatever. Dude, yeah. You used to be able
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: to lie to somebody and they didn't know you were lying.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: What about that beautiful piece of America that we lost?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: You're able to lie and not get caught?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. You could tell a woman you were a
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: lawyer or whatever. And she's like, you're 11. And I'm like,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: who cares? The defense rests, you know? But those were
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: the days, man. You could go into another city. And yeah,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: you could just make up stuff. You didn't have to
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: be a criminal forever if you were online or something.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: So much of the fun is gone because a lot
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: of the mystery is gone. But the last thing we can,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: if we lose the like, man, it's just so crazy
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: because so much of the fabric of our society has
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: started to dissolve. It's like, you know, it's not as
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: much of a Christian nation anymore. It's not, we haven't
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: stood up for even, and even if it's, if it
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a religious nation, it should be
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: a moral nation, right? And we don't protect like– we
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: don't stand for things morally like business has just taken over.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: It's– yeah, like greed. It's just– it's gotten– it's crazy.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: How about people? How about people? Everybody talks about all
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: this righteous bullshit, right? And a lot of it's– some
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: of it's good. Some of it's bad. But recently I
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: work in Washington, D.C. and there were people actively desecrating
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: monuments– and lighting the American flag on fire. Now, regardless
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: of what your position is on anything going on in
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: the world, like growing up, one value that we add
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: is you respect that flag and you defend it with
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: everything you got. And I posted a picture of an
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: American flag on social media. And I'm not really allowed
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: to touch my social media because guys like Will and Brian,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: my good people that are around me, chief of staff,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: They protect me from myself because there's certain things that
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: just drives me nuts. But I post the American flag
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: and I wrote, I will defend and honor this till
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: the day I die and everybody else should. We're in
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: the greatest country in the world. I got attack like
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: on these private DMs saying, well, Supreme Court said it's
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: legal to burn a flag. Okay, so it's legal to
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: burn a flag because the Supreme Court says it's morally
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: right to desecrate something so sacred. So that's where like,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: I think we got to get back to basics and say, look,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: I agree. Let's fucking cut this bullshit out. We're in
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: the greatest place in.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: The world, but we don't even, but now it's almost,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: if you say America, you say USA, you're suddenly a right.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: You're far right. You know, it's like if you put
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: an American, like some people think the American flag, it's like,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: it's been positioned by the media that it's not even
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: that it's not our unifying flag anymore, you know? that
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: it's for one party. And they did that on purpose.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: And it's unbelievable. It's sick. And we took the Pledge
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: of Allegiance out of schools. Little things that I think
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: have an effect on yourself and your psyche in a
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: positive way to make you feel like you're part of
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: a group. And when you don't feel like you're part
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: of a group anymore, you don't feel like you're part
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: of the fabric of America, that it's not a real thing,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: then you start to only look out for yourself. And
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: that's when I think things get really scary.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Well, if it were so bad, wouldn't people be leaving
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: here left and right? Oh, yeah.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: All those people that said they were gonna leave or
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: whatever and they're leaving, dude. I wish they would leave, dude.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: I love this country. Look, do we have our flaws
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: as a nation? We all do. We have our flaws
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: as human beings, every one of us.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look at the Jets.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I know, I know, Jesus. But, you know,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: it's a great country. It's something that people should be
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: proud to live here and they should respect it. And
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: the fight isn't amongst ourselves. For us, guys like me
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: and our union members, it's like we were afforded freedoms
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: because of that flag, because of the country we live in,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: where the enemy is not ourselves. The enemy is corporate
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: American crooked politicians. It's fucking easy.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: It's weird when the enemy now is in your country, though.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: That's the thing that's gotten different. It used to be
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: that your enemy was other countries or the countries you
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: had conflict with, and now it's gotten to be– That
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: the enemies are running our country or they are in
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: debt to people who are running our country. Or our
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: leaders are in debt to our enemies. That's what's gotten weird.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Our leaders are in debt to people who don't care
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: about the morals of this country and who don't have any.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: No, and there's got to be a solution to the
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: problem though.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: That's what I hope, brother. I fucking hope, dude. I
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: will fucking chew the tires off somebody's asshole, brother. I
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: fucking hope that we can change things, dude. And I
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of guys out there who can.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: So that phrase you just said, chew the tires off
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: someone's asshole. So if I had to interpret that in
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: a Boston interpretation, what do you think that would be?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: Like just give them a swift kick in the nuts?
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: No, I think it would be– no, I'd put a
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: cannoli in there somewhere.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, North End? Yeah. In the Italian section.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: What's that one place that's so good?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: Strega?
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: It's open all night.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, the Bova's.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you go in there and they got Mike back
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: in the back and he doesn't have, he has, he
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: may still have a couple teeth.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: There's an update you can get online. I haven't checked it.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: With nice tooth?
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And they're like, tell him, Mike. And he'll
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: be like, yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: I think that's Bova's Baker.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, bro. God, that place is good, dude.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not gay, but I'll suck off one of those cannolis, brother.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. You know what I'm saying, dude? BLM, dude.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Those things are good. And, bro, you go in there,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: you can meet a lady. They got some people in there, dude.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: And the guy that works in there works with his
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: ex-wife in there. They're in there running it all night.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they got the guy in the back who's
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: still got, he's got a, you know, he's got a
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: couple of horsemen left in the stable back there. And
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: every now and then.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, there's some thoroughbreds back there.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, every now and then he'll sound off, you know.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Every now and then somebody will.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: You know what's good about that place?
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: Every now and then, yeah, they put him in a
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Vince Wilford jersey back there and he'll fucking start rattling around.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Back in the day, that place used to be great
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: because you'd come out of the bars in Faneuil Hall
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: or North Station and that was the only place open and,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: you know. after drinking 35 beers, it's a good idea
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: to fucking eat a couple of cannolis and a little tiramisu.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Then you'd end up in the corner and you'd end
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: up fucking getting in a fight argument. It was like
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: WWE after eating cannolis and Italian pastry.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: It was WWE Claire's, dude. Oh, man. WWE Claire's.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: Two guys beating.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: The shit out of each other with fucking frost on
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: their cheeks.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, it was crazy.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: One guy's got a fucking apple crella just slammed into
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: his throat.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: It's funny. I live right now there and it's still open.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: It's so good, bro.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, last time I was there, we went in there. Yeah,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: it's so good, dude. God, that place is good.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: A solid battery with a cannoli. Yes.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, bro, they got the best stuff in there. Bring
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: it up. Bring up their website. What's it called? Yeah,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: see what they got on there. Let me see some
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: of the items over there.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, you got to go with the whoopie pie.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, they got them?
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: They got them right there.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some of those things. Oh, they got those little–
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's... Trim brulees, brother.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: Now, my son that you met today, he's a type
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: 1 diabetic.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Is he?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: And he always tells this joke, right? But, like, see
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: that stuff right there on the website? It's pretty sad
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: when that can save his life.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: Forget CPR. That'll save his life.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Put a little Cruella in him, huh? Put a fucking
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: little bit of Boston cream in his snout.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Bring him back to life, brother. That fucking sugar.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: Narcan, homie. That poor kid has diabetes. He's a politician.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: He's a politician.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Have fucking liabilities. That's a good point, dude. Oh, I
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: hope you almost, it's almost weird. Cause you're almost like, well,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: some country come and rescue us, but it's our own country.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like, that's the part that.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: We got to rescue ourselves from ourselves.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: We do, we do, but it's, it's definitely greed is
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest things. Um, so with the, with
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: the country kind of divided in, even with the union
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: having different views in politics, how do you keep the
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: union unified? Like how is it tough to do?
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: Or is it, No, I mean the one thing that's
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: important is the inclusiveness of the union. We're not a dictatorship.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: Our leadership is something that's never been done where we
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: are out there, myself and my general secretary, Trevor. my
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: partner and all this, Fred Zuckerman, we are actually out three,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: four days per week in work sites all around the country.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: We're not talking to leaders. We are talking to rank
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: and file members in every industry we represent. And look,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: this political shit that's going on right now, the presidential race,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: it's important. But what we do is represent workers. That's
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: the most important thing. So what do we do to
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: keep them unified? Negotiate the best contracts. Be out there.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: Be visible. Be transparent. Be inclusive. But more importantly, be
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: honest with.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: Them.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Part of the issue with a lot of situations we've
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: been through over the last two and a half years
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: is– and the success we've had is because we've been
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: honest with our members and we've empowered them. We've empowered
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: them where they know we have their backs. They know
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: that if they want to take on a fight, okay,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: we're ready to go. There's no ifs, ands, or buts
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: And should every worker be part of a union, do
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: you think?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: I think every worker should be part of a union.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, think about it. We set the tone
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: nationwide on industry standards. And look, everybody should have healthcare
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: they don't have to pay for that an employer is
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: paying for. Everybody should have a pension that they can
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: retire on and actually maintain their quality of life while
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: they're retired. So yeah, everybody should have that. That's the
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: American dream.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And unions, it would feel like are especially disadvantaged
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: because their healthcare costs go up year over year and
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: those costs get levied out to the members. The members
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: have to Even if their salary is going up, the
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: cost of the health care is going up the same
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: or is similar. So it all washes out, you know.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Like I was reading the other day about there was
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: a union, 32BJ, I think it is, 32BJ.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: SEIU, yes.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: Which has workers paying 37% of their compensation of their
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: earnings to health care.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: The members spent, what you're saying is the members spent
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: $ 37 million towards the cost of some of their premiums.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: that they pay in the health insurance.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: See with us, we- No, that 37% of their compensation
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: goes towards healthcare.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're paying a cost, part of their compensation
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: towards their healthcare. We go into every single negotiation, the
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: majority of our members in the big industries do not
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: pay anything towards the premium. The employers, we demand that
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: they pay the full. Now, there are some industries that
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: pay you know, certain percentage towards it, like public sector,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: but we get the ability to negotiate that. You know,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: we get the ability to negotiate free healthcare and stuff
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: like that. And that's important this day and age because, again,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: you get back to big business. You know, we're out
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: there fighting for the best benefits for our members, healthcare.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: We want zero to low cost. And who's making all
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: the money? These fucking providers, like, you know, the Blue Cross, yeah,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: the insurance company, Blue Cross, Blue Shields of the world,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: you know, the Kaiser's of the world. And they act
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: like they're providing us all these great benefits. We're fighting
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: for them. And they're actually a vendor to us. So
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: in some instances, we're investing in our own demise in
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: certain situations, right? So we've tried to change that narrative
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: as well. But yeah, it's a disgrace. That's a disgrace.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: And I read an article that In New Jersey, police, fire,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: and teachers unions are expecting a 20% increase in their
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: healthcare premiums for 2025. I mean, you know.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: So you take a wage increase that's, you know, you
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: get a 5% wage increase, right? But your health insurance
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: goes up 20%.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: You just lost money.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: And why? You shouldn't be losing money.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: No, it's all part of the same scam. It's like, yeah, okay,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: we'll give you an increase, but this is going to
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: be even higher than that. So we know we're going
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: to get the money back.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: So think about this. You get a teacher that is
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: responsible for cultivating the next generation and educating that next generation.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: You get a firefighter that's running into a burning building
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: to save your children.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: And you're in health care.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: And you have a police officer that's risking his life
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: every single day with zero support. from communities now.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, except a Marlboro neck brace.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right? Yeah, right, exactly, right? And you want them
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: to pay more for their health insurance? Are you out
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: of your fucking minds?
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: It's literally going to get to the point, Sean, where
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: you're literally going to have to smoke for medical care.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: It's going to be like, all right, if you want
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: an IV, it's 20,000 Marlboro points.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You want a Tylenol, you're
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: going to smoke a fucking cotton of cigarettes, break them off. Yeah,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: it's crazy. But imagine those people.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: You'll see somebody in a full body, like just a
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: full body Winston cast, you know? Yeah. Just a full-body
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Parliament cast. You know, this cost $ 30, 000.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: Tarrington 100s? Miles and yards. Oh, God.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: That must have been a Boston.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: Thing, huh?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: My grandmother used to smoke Tarrington 100s, right? And she
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: had like a three-inch ash. And you'd be sitting there.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, all right, when's this going to light
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: the couch on fire? Hold on. When is it going
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: to light the dive van on fire? I didn't know
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: what a fucking dive van. Yeah, I didn't know what
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: it was. She called it a dive van? A dive van, yeah.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, my grandmother called it a dove van.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever it was, yeah.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they both had it wrong.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Smoking butts. They all smoked through pregnancy, right? Oh, yeah, brother.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, you'd see a kid be born, he'd be, you know,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: four ounces, bro. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: She'd put him in. My grandmother put my brother in
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: a curio cabinet for a little bit.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Kid was craving, like, fucking tab, tab cola.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: Dude, they had a, fuck, what was I going to say?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: My brain's not working good today, man. Some days it's on,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: some days it's off. You know, it's union. You know
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, brother? Yeah.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: Might be on an off shift.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: But hey, bro, it's part of the union, dude.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: Hey, FMLA.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: Hey, it knows no matter what that it's going to
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: be rewarded.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: FMLA, Friday, Monday leave act.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What else was I going to ask you? Yeah,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: why do every– did we already ask this? Why does
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: every worker need a contract with their employer?
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: Well, because look, if you don't have a contract, right?
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: And I tell this to people all the time when
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: we're organizing work is because, you know, we have these
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: meetings with groups that want to organize. And you always
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: get people that don't want to organize, right? They want
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: to be friends with the boss or they think that
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: they're being taken care of. And I always tell them, look,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: take a piece of paper, write down all your demands,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: write down your guarantees like I, Sean O'Brien, demand from
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: my boss and my boss will provide for me. 7%
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: wage increase every year, free health care, job security, respect
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: in the workplace. And if you give that to your boss,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: that you're not organized, you think he's going to sign that?
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. There's no guarantees, right? Well, the union contract,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: you're guaranteed. You're guaranteed yearly wage increases. You're guaranteed medical.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: You're guaranteed retirement. You're guaranteed holidays. You're guaranteed vacations. It's simple.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: It's easy.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: And that's the litmus test. Hey, you don't believe us?
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Then everything that you want, write it down as a contract.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: You individually go give it to your employer. And I
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: guarantee you one or two things are going to happen.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: He's going to laugh at you and then he's going
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: to fire you.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: And now in smaller businesses, it might be different. Yeah.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: This, I mean, look, there's a lot of smaller businesses
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: that actually take care of their employees that, you know,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: we've had instances where, you know, you've had a small business,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: you know, a couple of people come to you and,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, and when you get into the weeds,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: deep down in the weeds, you see that, you know, these,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: you know, this, this might not be a great opportunity
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: for a union and or an employer that is actually
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: doing the right thing by the members. That's the one
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: thing that people lose sight of is what we do
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: as a whole holds other people accountable. So what we
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: get as a union may encourage these small employers to
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: do the right thing selfishly to keep us out, right?
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: So we do set that bar pretty high. But there's
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of family-owned businesses that, you know, that I
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: know of, especially in my area where I grew up, where,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: you know, they take care of their employers. You know,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: I have a friend of mine, Paul Nazaro, who started
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: his own business and he sold it for a lot
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: of money that he'd probably never got to work again.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: But he's an example where he always took care of,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: it was a small like tech company. And when he left,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: he had an employee that worked for him for 35
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: years on a forklift. He gave him a $ 500, 000 check.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: Just stuff like that. So there are good stories out there.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: But the majority of people– and again, I'll stand by it.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: I think everybody should have the ability to join a
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: union without retaliation or retribution. And again, but there are
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of good employers, small businesses, family run that
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: have done well and have rewarded the people. So it's
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: not every employer is bad because they're non-union.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man. Speaking of forklifts, I used to work over.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: I used to work at this place. We was galvanizing
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: clevis clamps or something, some bullshit. I don't know. I
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: got really bad summer in doing it because we had
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: to do it outdoors or whatever because we weren't unionized
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But, yeah, we'd be out there galvanizing shit
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: in the sun. Oh, at lunch sometimes we would get
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: real high and we would put each other on a pallet,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: on a forklift. and then put it all the way
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: to the top and get the highest dude and just
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: put him way up there and leave him up there
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: while we went and ate.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: You guys definitely needed a union. Yeah. Was it the
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: junior guy or the senior guy you put up there?
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: No, it was a low on the totem pole guy.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: It was me.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: Did they drug test at that company? Uh-uh. Did they
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: drug test at that company?
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: Fuck no, but you knew people. were on drugs. Yeah.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: So you didn't have to test.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, just you already knew it.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just kind of baked in.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: Was it like a prerequisite?
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was or not, but it
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: was baked in.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one thing that we do when we
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: stand by. Everybody's got to get drug tested? For the
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: most part, most of our members do, which is a
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: good thing.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: You don't want to. Do you guys use USADA? Who
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: do you guys use?
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: I don't even know.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, you don't?
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: No. USADA?
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: No. They're a big drug testing company. Oh, one of
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: America's greatest mysteries is the Hoffa mystery, right? So we
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: got to ask about that. And what happened to him, right?
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: Because he was the Teamsters president.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: He was. Well, there was the father and then Junior.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: The father was an icon. I mean, he put the
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: Teamsters on the map.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: Did you ever meet the father?
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: I didn't, no. I was born in 1972. He disappeared
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: in 75. No, but my– I know a lot of
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: people that did out of my local and everything else.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: And he was an icon. He really was. Greatest labor
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: leader ever. And he put the team's hand-organized labor on
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: the map.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: And then he went missing, right?
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: Do you think he's still alive or not?
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: I mean he'd be 105 or something like that. So
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Probably not.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: He's getting overtime if he is.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's probably on the clock still. Probably
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: on the clock.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: Or yeah, do you think he's still on the clock?
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: That's probably the appropriate term. Dude, once you become president,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: do they tell you what happened to him because he
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: went missing?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: No one knows what happens to him. I mean, that's
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: the biggest mystery. There's all these theories that, you know,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: he got killed by the mob. There's all these theories that,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: you know, he's buried under a giant stadium. No one knows.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, all the theories. But the one
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: thing that is like, look, he's gone, but the work
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: that he did should never be forgotten. I mean, that guy.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: uh, yeah, he's buried under a Dunkin Donuts out.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Probably South Medford or something, but.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's always, you're like, we're not digging up. Yeah.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: We got munchkins to make. Uh, but, uh, no, I mean,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: it's unfortunate what happened, but, um, you know, back then,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the team says it was, it
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: was a, a very controversial, very influential organization, which I
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: think today we're not as controversial, but we're just as, as,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: as much influential. And, No, I don't. I get asked
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: this question all the time.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. We had to ask.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you one thing. Fascinating thing in my office.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: I'm in the same office that he had and then
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: his son.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: His son, Jimmy? Junior.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: James P.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: Hoffman. James P.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: Hoffman.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: James P.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: Hoffman.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Definitely not his father. You know, was born on
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: third base and actually thinks he hit a triple to
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: get there.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: You know, great name recognition, right? But in my office... Um,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: you have, it was, it's been all done over, but
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: the one thing is, there's a little closet in my
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: office that, you know, they kept part of the history
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: and you open the closet door, there's a little closet
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: door on the hallway and there's actually a two rail, uh,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: tape recorder that's still there. So he used to tape
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: record all his conversations in his office and listen to him.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: You weren't, you didn't even know you were getting taped.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: So it's actually still there. It doesn't function. Um, but. Um,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: you know, it's funny, uh, Bobby Kennedy tells a great
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: story and it is true. Um, you know, there's no,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: there's no, uh, love loss between, uh, Jimmy Hoffa senior
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: and Bobby Kennedy's father. Actually, this is the, if you
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: see this, that's president Hoffa at a Senate hearing flipping
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: them off, flipping off, uh, Robert Kennedy. Right. But, uh,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: Robert Kennedy jr. Tells a story how driving past our headquarters.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: And with his father, he was probably 14 years old.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: He was probably 14 years old. And he's driving past his,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: past our building. And his father, his father had like
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: a vendetta against Hoffa. And he saw that he was
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: in there like nine o'clock at night working. The lights
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: was on. So he dropped Bobby off and said, I
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: got to go back to work. If he's working this late,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: he's preparing. I got to prepare. So it was funny,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: the story. But, you know, he was definitely an icon.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: And he made the team. This is what it is today.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: You know, I had a falling out with his son who, Um,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: you know, as far as I'm concerned, you know, uh, he, he,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: he didn't do what was right towards the end of
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: the union. And, um, that's the great thing about having
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: a democratic union.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: And does everybody's you vote in the union count for
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: the same?
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: All our rank and file members vote.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: We're one of the only unions where, uh, one voice,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: one vote, each, each one of our rank and file
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: members gets the opportunity to vote on their leadership. Hmm.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: And so now every union member can vote also for
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: any president that they want or any election?
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: Whoever's running, whoever's declared candidate, they can vote for whoever
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: they want. So most of the time we run in slates.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: So you'll have like the Sean O'Brien slate, like I
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: think we had. It's the Oz, the O'Brien-Zuckerman slate. And
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: we had our opponents last time were a membership slate
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: or something like that. And you run as a slate,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: a team of 24.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: How often do you have to run?
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: Every five years. Every five years, yep. So we ran
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: in– our election was in November of 2021 and we
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: take over March of 2022. So we'll have another election
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: in November of 26 and take– obviously get sworn in
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: for another term hopefully in March of 2027.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: And do you have a campaign slogan or did you
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: have like a campaign slogan?
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: No, but I think– yeah, well, we did. Yeah, bigger, faster, stronger.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: And I say it all the time, you know, we've
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: got to be bigger, we've got to be faster, we've
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: got to be stronger. And we definitely have. We definitely
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: have done that.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Is the union growing?
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: It's growing. We've organized, just the teams alone in two
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: and a half years, organized 50,000 new members. And we're
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: organizing in traditional industries. But I know for a fact
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: you've probably never done this. You've probably never smoked weed.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: But we are organizing in the cannabis industry where there's 425,000
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: W2 employees nationwide.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: Bud slaves, they call them. A lot of people are
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: calling them. Yeah, because they're not unionized.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: No, and we have organized. I think we've got 2,000.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: We're sleeping in hammocks.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: We've got 2,000 of them organized, I think, throughout the
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: whole country. So they're into cultivation. There's workers that are
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: in warehousing, and then they're going to be in distribution.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: So all in our warehouse are what we do, and
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: there's 425,000 of them.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: Is that one of your largest growing sectors? Well, yeah.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: Is sector the term or what is it?
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: It's divisions.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: Is that one of the largest growing divisions?
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: Well, hopefully it will. I mean, we're doing a lot
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: of things differently where, you know, once this is legalized nationwide,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: which I think both candidates are supportive of legalizing it,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: you're going to see in the safe banking laws of
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: change where, again, these companies can put money into actual banks,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: you're going to see private equity come out and try
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: and buy up all these smaller companies where what we're
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: doing is we're working with a private equity fund utilizing
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: contributions from our pension funds and investments in our pension funds.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: To be the buyer of them?
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: To be the buyer of them. Let's go. And obviously,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: you know, organized within this industry. So there's 425,000.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: Is it a conflict of interest though to be an owner?
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: No, we're not an owner. We'll be the private equity
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: firm that we invest in. So it's not uncommon. We
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: do it all the time in other industries.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: Would you still make the best deal for your caterers?
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, we're going to make the best deal because think
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: about it. A lot of times in pension funds and
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: health and welfare funds, we make investments off contributions because
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: that's what you're supposed to do, right? And it's usually
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: a pretty dynamic asset allocation. You invest in real estate.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: You invest in private equity. You invest in stocks. You
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: invest in bonds and stuff like that. So, or infrastructure.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: So think about investing in a lot of times, especially
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: with private equity, you know, you're investing in competitors, non-union
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: competitors that could potentially put good companies out of business.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: So we're taking a different look at it now and
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: approach and say, look, why don't we invest in the
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: industries that we actually represent? And instead of investing in
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: our demise, We invest in areas where we can help.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: So for instance, 30% of this portfolio will be dedicated
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: towards a cannabis investment. And the other 70% will be
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: in all kinds of other investments. We're hoping to raise
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: a billion dollars by January or February of 2025. And
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: that gives us the opportunity as well. If there's a
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: distressed company out there, like a small business that's unionized,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: Or even a big business like Yellow Freight who went
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: out of business because they couldn't get financing because it
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: was a greedy private equity firm known as Apollo. If
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: we had this fund up and running a couple of
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: years ago, we could have bought Apollo's position out at
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: $ 600 million, restructure the company, and actually keep 22,000 jobs.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: So we're doing creative, innovative stuff like that as well.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: You have to. Oh, you have to because, like I said,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: we're a lot more sophisticated, and our members deserve the
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: investments we're going to make on their behalf. You look
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: at the cannabis industry, for instance, right? If it doesn't
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: get organized, what future do people have going to work there?
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: So we organize them. We negotiate contracts that have health care,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: that have retirement benefits. We're not just creating a job.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: We're creating careers for people.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: Cultivation, warehousing, distribution. I mean, that's what we should be doing.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really interesting. Yeah, and I can't believe that's
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest growing, that's one of the largest growing.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: So they're saturated heavily.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: It's like one of the largest growing sectors for these divisions.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're saturated heavily with licenses nationwide.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: And that's a good thing, but they're capital poor right now.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: So they're waiting for this legalization federally And the safe
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: banking laws have changed. And you're going to see a grab.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: And if we're not controlling that grab, the best interests
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: of these workers are not going to be at hand.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: So we want to make sure, first and foremost, that's
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: what we're doing. We're not really concerned with doing double-digit
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: return on investments. We're concerned on taking care of these
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: workers that work in this industry and making certain that
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: they have the ability to have a career if they choose.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: But how crazy that it's even come to that also,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: that now in order to ensure that the workers are
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: going to be safe, you, that the company, that the
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: organization making them safe also wants to be a vested
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: interest in the, like, you.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying?
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: It makes sense, but it's crazy that you would, that
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: people wouldn't just think, yes, we need to take care
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: of the workers.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, so again, you get back to corporate greed.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: You know, you get back to a bottom line of
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: a balance sheet before people.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unreal, man. And then there won't be any
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: more people. It'll just be a robot and some, you know, some,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: I don't even know, just who knows, you know, some
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: Israeli lizard licking a Bitcoin somewhere, jerking off in a
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: bank vault. One of your most viral moments was you
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: had a confrontation with a fella, from Oklahoma. Was he
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: a senator?
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, U.S.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: Senator Mark Wayne Mullen.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: Mark Wayne Mullen. And did you guys ever patch that up?
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: Because you guys almost did a charity fundraiser fight right
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: there in the.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: Senate. Yeah, we had two run-ins. I'm not sure.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: People know, I don't know.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: We had two run-ins. I was testifying at a Senate
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: hearing at the request of Senator Bernie Sanders, who I
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: got a lot of respect for and I'm a huge
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: fan of. Um, and this guy like attacked me first.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: What was he upset about?
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: Well, so when you go into these hearings and again,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: like you, we have to submit like a 15 page brief, right?
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: So you give that 24 hours prior, and then you've
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: got to condense that in your testimony to about two
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: and a half to three minutes. So I'm reading my
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: testimony and, you know, usually have witnesses pro and con
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: on each side. That's a, and you have, you know,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: the Republicans, on the help committee and the Democrats on
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: the help committee. And I didn't, I didn't know this
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: guy from a hole in the wall. And he had
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: an issue with a different union. He owned a business
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: of plumbing, a pipe fitting company in Oklahoma. And I
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: guess they, you know, they picketed his house. He had
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: 300 employees or something. So he took it very personal, which,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: you know, Hey, someone shows up at your house that
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: is personal. But the reality of it has nothing to
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: do with me. So he started like attacking me on
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: all this stuff. And of course, being from Boston in
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: the neighborhood, I'm like, fuck you, dude. Like, whatever. Like,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: you're a clown. I just started shitting on him. He
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: started shitting on me back, right? And poor Bernie, like,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: I thought he popped a nitro. He was like, enough, enough, enough.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: And so that was, yeah, it was like, you know
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: what it was like? It was like, you know, you're
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: sneaking into your grandmother's house in high school because you're
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: drinking and your grandfather's up screaming at you. But I
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: felt bad for him. And then, so that was it.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then he bums a sip of liquor off before
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: he goes to bed. You're like, this is awful. This
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: is definitely got a Marlboro. Yeah.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: I'm two points shy.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: Right. So this is insider trade.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: So we get into this big exchange and then I
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: didn't know who he was. It was, it was actually comical.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: That was the first time. And then, so after that,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: of course I start attacking him on social media and
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: he starts attacking me back and we're going back and forth.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: So then I have to testify another hearing and he
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: come in and he, I can, he was all fired up,
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: you know, cause it clearly I hit a few nerves.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: And he's like, stand your butt up. And I'm like,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: you stand your butt up. I am fucking– he goes,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: you want to do this? We'll do it right now.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, let's do it.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: And they didn't let you all fight though, huh?
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: It was like– you know what it was like? I
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: played a little bit of hockey. I don't even think
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: I could jump over the boards anymore. But if I
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: got over there and he got over, I mean, it's on.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: But poor Bernie. He's yelling and everything else.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: I saw that clip.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, he was– he called me the next day.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: He goes– did you have fun? I go, I had
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: a fucking blast to be honest with you. Right. And
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: so then as time went on, um, you know, Mullen's
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: people and my people were bumping into each other up
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: at Capitol Hill and they all determined it would be
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: in the best interest if, you know, we sat down and,
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: you know, try to air our differences if we couldn't
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: air our differences, whatever. But You know, he challenged me
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: to a fight, like a charity fight. He's supposed to
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: be an MMA fighter. And I'm like, dude, I walk
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: to work. I'll just meet you at a park, you know,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens. But thankfully it didn't get
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: to that, both sides. You know, no, I'll be honest
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: with you. Like I met with him. We agree to
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: disagree on a lot of things. But, you know, he's
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: a sitting U.S. Senator. One of a hundred should be
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: well-respected people. I get the privilege to represent 1.3 million
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: working people. You know, we both probably could have done
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: things differently that day, but it was fucking fun as hell.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: It was fun. Yeah, it was good. And it was
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: great because, you know.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: And you need some of that shit because C-SPAN or
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: whatever that channel is, is fucking boring.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like, rah, rah, rah.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: I'm lying to you.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: And you don't even know what's going on on there,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: you know. Every now and then.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: C-SPAN's awful. It's like watching old people, you know, hump.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: And they're all, yeah. I mean, yeah, if you've done it.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: No, I have never done that.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: Never watched that stuff.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: As long as you're not watching.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: But maybe I'll watch the Golden Bachelorette now or something,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: As long as you're not watching it on the clock.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: No, no, definitely not. Be in the break room.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: In the break room.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: Dude, the break room is always so much fucking fun, dude.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, and I've definitely stolen from my employers.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: I used to work at the grocery right, and I
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: was a checkout guy, right? We did stocking and checking that,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: and then I got moved up to checker and bagger too, dude.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: And I got a– and when I'd go to the
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: break room– What's more important.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: Checker or bagger? Bagger is– Bagger sounds a little deviant.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bagger is definitely– well, I used to– if it
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: was rich people, I would ring their items up a
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: couple times. And then when poor people came through, I
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: wouldn't ring their items up. But I'd remember like, okay,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: I got three boxes of cereal.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: So you were like a modern-day Robin Hood at Publix?
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it wasn't anything big. It was just
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: some fucking cinnamon toast crunch or whatever, but I definitely
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: helped out here and there. Did what you could. Because
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: some families, they didn't notice it. It's still stealing. But
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: what we used to do is when we'd go to
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: a break, we would walk down whatever aisle had our
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: favorite food, and we'd just steal some shit right off
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: the shelves. So I feel sorry about that. I don't
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: want to apologize. That place is called Del Champs, I think.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: Went out of business. Do you think it.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: Went out of business because of the employee pilfering?
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't take much. I usually took—
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: Swedish fish and shit? No, I'd do like a banana
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: and maybe a little bag of Funyuns or something. Not
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: one of the big bags. But yeah, it was just— everybody
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: did it. But see, that's not a bad— that' s not a
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: fair thing. Everybody does it.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: It just implicated all your coworkers.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude, definitely all of them. Chad, Giddy, all those dudes.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: This one dude used to come, clock in, go home.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: He worked for us for four months.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: That's funny.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: Like, who is he? People would come to work and
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: they're like, where is he? They came at a piece
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: of picture of him one day. Where is he? This
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: kid named Chuckie or whatever. And we're like, who is he?
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: And like your employee, you're going to rat him out.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even fucking, we never seen that guy.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: We don't know him to rat him out.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. But yeah, working at a grocery store was fun.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: Do you see more, do you see the union growing now? Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, we can joke about like the breaks and
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: all that stuff.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: But unions have proved they're the hottest work and most
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: productive thing. workers in the country. And I think this
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: new generation that have an appetite to fight and they
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: want to take on the boss and they're very in
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: tune with social media. And I think there's a great opportunity.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you see places like Starbucks and Chipotle
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: and all these industries that have never been unionized, where
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: the young workers that are 18, 19, 20 years old,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: demanding recognition, demanding representation in the workplace. I think the
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: sky's the limit, and I think, again, it sets the
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: tone for, you know, the next 10 or 15 years
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: in the labor movement. We definitely have seen growth in
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: the Teamsters and a lot of those industries that have
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: never been represented. You know, it's exciting times.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, it definitely seems like it. Well, we're just,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing as more big businesses and things get become
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: conglomerates and stuff like that.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: The last thing you have is, um, is it almost
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: seems like it's the last choice, you know, and it's
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: the best choice. You know, you have to have somebody
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: fight against these groups for you. Uh, this article says
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: this summer alone, 10,000 workers organized with the teamsters for
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: the first time at a wide range of employers and
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: traditional teamsters industries like transportation and delivery. Including DHL. Oh,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: we were already talking about that. Um, yeah. So you,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: do you think that, uh, oh, it says also including Amazon,
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: the American Red Cross, Costco, and cannabis, dispensary nationwide. So
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: it's everywhere.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we are. We're hitting every single opportunity. We don't solicit.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: We have targets like Amazon because they're such a bad employer.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: But DHL, like we represent DHL around the country. Some
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: places– or unionized, some weren't. So what we did is
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: we just started striking them for recognition. And we shut
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: them down at CVG, which is the airport in Cincinnati
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: last December, right during the busiest time for them. And
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: what we did there, there was 2,300 workers. We got
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: a first-time contract there for 1,300 workers. In the remaining 1,100,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: we got card check neutrality, which they didn't want to
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: give us. But we said, look, no problem. Next December,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: we're going to do the same thing to you. We'll
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: shut you down and The good thing for us, once
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: you have a union contract, for the most part, whether
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: it's DHL, UPS, UNFI, Cisco, any of those, we have
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: what they call picket line protection. So we get to
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: honor picket lines all over the place. So we can
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: extend picket lines at different locations and shut down industries nationwide.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: And again, that's a choice that an employer makes that
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: they shouldn't make. And we've been successful doing that. So
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: as a result of that, DHL is funny. I think
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: they are owned by the Deutsch Post Office, I believe.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I remember when they showed up with those yellow trucks.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're awful. They're Kansas City Chiefs.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: What's going on? Yeah.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: So, you know, we organize and we have, you know,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: but they're, again, you know, they're a European company. And
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: I met with the CEO after we struck them. And
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: I said, he's like, we want to reestablish our relationship.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, give us card check neutrality.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: What is card check neutrality?
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: It means they just agree to, once we get the
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: majority of the employees to sign cards, we give them
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: to a third party arbitrator who decides the, the validity
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: of the cards. And then if we have the majority,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: they sit down and negotiate a contract with us. There's no,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: there's nothing else.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: What do you mean validity of the cards? What do
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: you mean?
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: Like they just, they, the arbitrate will determine if we
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: do have the majority or not. And we don't usually
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: submit these cards to an arbitrate unless we have 80%
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: of the cards.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: And so the cards mean people saying.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: People signed up, I want to join the union.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: Got it. Okay.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: So, you know, they'll determine that and then they sit
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: down and negotiate a contract. So we had a meeting
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: in Washington. They sent these three The CEO, the lawyer,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: and the CFO. And I went with our attorney, Fred Zuckerman.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: I'm a general secretary treasurer. We sat down and they're like,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: we want to reestablish the relationship. One guy had an
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: English accent and really fucking aggravating. Oh, yeah. You know,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: it was like.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: Good day. We'll see about it.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All that bullshit. And well, we
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: want to have a relationship. I go, well, the only
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: way we're going to have a relationship, you give us
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: card check neutrality. And he said, yeah, we don't believe
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: in that. I'm like, okay, great. Meeting's over. I'm not
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: going to beg for this. Go fuck yourself. See you later.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: And then like two days later, our attorney's on the
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: phone and their attorney's like, we rethought this because we
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: told them, we'll just shut you down every chance we got.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: And you don't want to be like that, but when
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: they come in and especially, you know, they're not an
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: American company.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: You know, they could give two shits less about us, but,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: you know, we've reestablished that relationship where you know, we've
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: made them realize how important their work is and how
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: important the relationship is with the Teamsters. So, you know,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: we've been successful there and, you know, look, we'll work
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: with anybody, but.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: How, say in the weed organization, right? Say the people
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: that work in, for weed companies, how do they become
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: part of the union? How does someone who's working somewhere
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: who feels like, okay, I'm not supported or, maybe I'm
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: at a place that should be supported. How do they, um,
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: approach you guys to be hopefully potentially be part of
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: the union?
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: They'll go to a local, they'll go to a local union,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: like a team says local and they'll, you know.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: Initially started a local level.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: They'll go to a local level, talk to the local union,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: a local union will either send in their organizer. We'll
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: provide an organizer for them. They'll go out, talk to
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: the workers, establish a relationship, establish trust. Um, And have
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: them sign authorization cards, meaning they want to join the union.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: And especially in the cannabis industry, I think we've gotten
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: more card check recognition because I think two things. They
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: know that we can strike them for recognition. And two,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: they know that we have this ability to make investments
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: in their businesses as time goes on once this fund
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: is created. And it's good. It's good for the industry
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: because think about it. We're going to regulate that industry.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: So if we don't organize them, you know, the mom
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: and pop that are charging X amount, and I've never
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: done drugs in my life. I don't even know. I've
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: never smoked weed or anything else.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: But I've done them.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: They're all right. I mean, I didn't do them because
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: I probably would have fucking loved them. But, um, you know,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but you know, you don't want to
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: undercut each other in this industry where it's a race
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: to the bottom. So there, there are a lot of, uh, uh,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: employers out there that have welcomed us in because of
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: that reason. Like we don't want to sell a gummy for,
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: you know, 25 cents cheaper than the guy down the street. So,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: you know, we've actually regulated this industry to a certain point,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: but the other thing too, which is very important in
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: this industry is continuity of employees, employees, right? So if
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: you are providing employees with a union contract, good wages,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: good benefits, you know, there's not going to be a
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: turnover ratio, right? You know, when we first started this
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: organizing campaign, we were seeing, you know, 20, 21 year
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: old kids that, you know, they weren't, They weren't stealing
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: a banana. They were sampling the product, right?
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: And they'd get fired or they'd leave. So we've actually
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: instilled some stability in this industry just because they know
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: there's an opportunity and they're organized as a contract and
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: there's a future.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Then you feel like you're part of something. Absolutely.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: Which is the same thing like in– which goes back
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: to our conversation about America, it's just like feeling like
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: you're a part of something, feeling like, you know, I
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: think it used to feel like your country was unionized,
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: you know, it definitely felt like that when I was
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: a kid. And, um, and we haven't catered to that,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: you know, and our leaders haven't catered to that and
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: our decision makers haven't catered to that. Um, one last question, uh, wait,
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: so do, do the, does the union also work with
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: the employer to do certain things? Yeah.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's times where we, we have to work
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: with each other on, you know, legislation that benefits, you know,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: both our members, uh, um, and the company. There's, there's
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of common, uh, fights that we have to
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: work together on. It's not, it's not always a lot
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: long line drawn in the sand. Um, and the good
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: thing is it's like, you know, a lot of political, uh,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: issues we have coming up, like, you know, certain issues
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: with reauthorization act and, um, you know, a lot of
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: federal legislation we'll work with a lot of our larger employers, uh,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: especially if it's more beneficial for our members. So yeah,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: we do work. We do work a lot with employers.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: Some employers, you know, you'll never be able to work with.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: They just, you know, they just dig in and they
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: want to fight all the time. But, you know, we're
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: ready for it either way, but we'll work with anybody.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: Do you think you'll be able to unionize Amazon workers?
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, without a doubt, we're going to be able to
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: organize them.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: Without a doubt. It's going to be, you know, it's
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: going to be a battle. It's going to be a fight.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: But that's where, you know, we're going to call on,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: you know, The Dems and the Republicans and everybody involved
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: that say they are passionate and supportive of these workers,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: we're going to call them out. We're going to expose
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: them and we're going to put them to the test.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: And that's what needs to happen. We're going to be
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: their conscience. I want to represent your mother. Yeah. Absolutely.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: I think that would be awesome. She likes to work hard.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: That's one thing my mom has always been is a worker.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: She likes to work. It's probably her favorite thing to do.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. So, so what did you get your work ethic from?
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: Probably from her, I guess, you know, it's funny. It's like, yeah,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: there's so many things that, but I do, I do
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: thank her for that actually a lot of times. It
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: was like she was always working, but I'm, yeah, I
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: do have a strong work ethic because of her.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a, well, you're a product of your environment.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: You know, if you, if your parents sat on the couch,
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: smoked butts and drank beers and chances are that's probably
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: what you're going to do. You know, I had the
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: ability growing up where I grew up. My father worked
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: two or three jobs and hustled his whole life. My mother,
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: the same thing. So, you know, we try and instill
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: that work ethic in my two kids and my nephews
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: as well, you know, which is important. And that's, I
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: think we've got to get back to basics in this country. And,
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: you know, I think we have the ability to do
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: it over the next several years.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: Well, and a worker should be able to know if
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: they're going to lock in with a company and they're
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: going to be like, I'm going to be here, that
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: I'm going to, know that when I get home from
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: work every day, I'm not going to also wonder, do
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: I need to go back out to another job to
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: pay for insurance this month for my wife and for
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: my children? And, and then they're not home to be
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: home with their children. And so then the children grew
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: up without their parents around. And so then they run
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: into all types of things. So then they're in therapy
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: and they're out using drugs or, or they don't, and
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: there's no sense of a family and it just, everything
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: starts to, um, dissolve, you know, and it's just, And
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: it definitely is. There's a part of it is greed
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: at the top. And a part of it is that
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: in a first world country like this, in a country
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: that has the highest GDP in the world, you would
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: think that we would also want the workers to be
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: happy and worrying about what's next always isn't that you
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: can't stress alone, you know, can cause so much damage
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  Speaker 1: to someone.
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  Speaker 2: Think about, think about your personal life, my personal life.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: When you're happy in your personal life, You're productive. You're driven.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: Same should hold true with people that go to work
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  Speaker 2: every single day. The employer should realize that if you
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: have a happy employee that you embrace and you respect,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: they're going to work that much harder for you, right?
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: And you reward, more importantly.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, reward, I think, for sure. Sometimes it's tough to
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: be the certain type of employer to everybody, but that
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: they should be rewarded for sure.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt. I mean, you talk about therapy when
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: you're a kid. I just look back and my therapy
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: was a wooden spoon over the head if we acted up,
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Oh, my mother.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: That was a good old days, wasn't it?
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude. My mother would hit us like Teddy Bruschi, dude.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: She would just fucking.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: My mother had more hits on us than Justin Bieber.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Oh, my mother would put on a Pedroia
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: jersey and just fucking tear into us, dude. Just hitting
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: triples right off of my brother.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's good stuff. Did you laugh when your brother
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: was getting beat?
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: Every now and then I chimed in, dude. I'd shatter
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: a wooden chair over that fricking mixed breed.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: Remember how, like growing up, I don't know how you
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: grew up in your house, but we'd be eating dinner.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: My father would work two or three jobs and you'd
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: be sitting there eating dinner. We grew up in a
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: pretty modest house. Very simple. And God forbid, you know,
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: you couldn't poke the bear. God forbid someone spilled something
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: at the table. be Jesus fucking Christ. And you'd start,
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: you'd be firing your fork and be have sparks on
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: it because you're wanting to get out of that table.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: Cause you don't want to feel the wrath. You know
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: what I mean? It was awful, but those are the
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: best times.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: It was so much fun. And part of what you're
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: talking about is a family being able to sit and
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: have dinner together.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: And part of that was because like, um, yeah, because
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: people are being compensated fairly and a mom was able
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: to be at home sometimes. And sometimes they weren't, but Yeah,
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: and now we've gotten to this point where it's like
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: both parents have to work and nobody– and people aren't
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: even building a family unit anymore. And it's– and I
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: don't mean that in a negative way. Some people still are.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: But people should be able to afford to do that
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: in a country that brings in this much, that produces
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: this much. It's got to start to change.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 2: There should be a work-family balance. And look, I'm guilty
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: as charged. I went out to work and I wanted
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: to work 80, 90 hours a week. I still do.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: And I always did it with the, you know, objective
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 2: of taking care of my family, taking care of, you know,
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 2: my kids. And thankfully my kids didn't end up fucked
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: up over. Well, I mean, you know, maybe not completely, but.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: Sean looks like he's.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 2: Sean's all right. Sean's good.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. Jerry's still out. But no, you went
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: to work to provide for your family. And now it's like,
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: you know, you made that choice. Now you don't have
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: a choice, you know, because it's just so hard to
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: make it. Yeah.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can definitely do better. And it starts with
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: the individual people. And sometimes the individual people can't do
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: it by themselves anymore because they don't have the lawyers
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: to back them up. They don't have the voice they need.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: So the individual people have to get together and they
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: have to unionize. And that's where you guys come in.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't survive as an American worker not represented
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: now that the deck is stacked against you. And the
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 2: average person, look, you want to go to work, do
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: your job, let us fight for you. Let us take
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: on the grievances at work. you know, don't bring them home.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: You know, that's the beauty of a union. You know,
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 2: you don't have to, you, you have the, you know,
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 2: you have the backing of a union. You don't have
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: to fight with your employee and make a call and say, Hey,
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: you know, to your business agent, you work for me.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: This is my issue. This is my grievance. I have faith.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: You're going to fix it.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: You don't have to be, take on all that stress.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: What do they lose by being a part of a union?
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: What does a worker, not a thing, not a thing,
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 2: not a thing, not a fucking thing.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: Um, Before you go, Sean, and thanks so much for
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: your time. I appreciate you, sir. Thanks for representing people
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: and supporting people and being a voice for people and
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: sharing things so clearly with us today. I think that
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: we've learned a lot. Is there like a movie or
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: a song? Is there something from the Dropkick Murphys or
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: something from a movie that really you feel like has
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: a union fucking feel to it for you ever?
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, one of my favorite movies of all time.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: I knew I wanted to be a Teamster truck driver
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: my whole life. was convoy that poor guy just died
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: this past week chris christopherson but oh the dropkick murphy's
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: the best kenny casey's a buddy of mine.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: Um chris christopherson right there he just passed away just
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: passed away people love him.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah road scholar too i guess.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: Was he really smart guy yeah wow and and he
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: drove truck too well i.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: Don't know if he drove it's just for the movie
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 2: maybe there was probably a team so i'm sure teams
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 2: that was driving it back in the day That was
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 2: filmed in Mexico.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine if nobody's driving. You don't even have anybody
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: to flip off if they go by.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 2: I know. Robot's going to give it a finger?
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: What fucking fun is that? Yeah, how are you going
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: to do that?
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 2: I know. It's crazy.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: That's the last piece of America we have.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, blow the air horn?
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: And if you can't be a six-year-old flipping off a trucker, dude.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: I know. Well, like picking your nose and stuff like that.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: What is this country coming to where you can't even
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: flip off.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 2: A fucking human? Dropkick Murph is the best. Kenny Case,
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: he's awesome.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 2: He's my guy. He is my guy. He's a good friend. Very...
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 2: Very active in the Soba community as well.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, is he?
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: Kenny Casey. I'm going to have to learn more about him.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is awesome. He's a character too.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 3: He is?
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: Absolutely hilarious cartoon character. But very, very committed to sobriety,
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: very committed to working people, working class guy. He loves unions.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: Real good friend.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: Wow, I'm going to have to tap in with him.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: I'll have to send him a DM or something.
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hook you guys up.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be cool. Absolutely. Yeah, people love them from
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: up there. That's definitely, I mean, people get married to
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: their music and buried to it.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 2: Coming up to Boston, shipping up to Boston. I was
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: in The Departed.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: You were in it?
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: That was in it?
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 2: The song was in it, yeah.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, the music.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I'm a Boston Bruins fan, dude.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: Are we going to sign that goalie or what?
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 2: Are we going to sign that goalie or what?
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, Rattler?
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 2: No, who is it? No, Swayman.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. Not that big of a fan.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: He's in a big... contract fight right now. He is?
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: Public, too. Cam Naley.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: Jeremy Swayman. There he is. Yeah, fucking sign him, dude.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: Is he unionized?
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Marty Walsh is representing him, right? Former Secretary of Labor.
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 2: He's the head of the National Hockey Players Association.
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 1: I love their coach, man.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. He's good. Well, my friends, their assistant coach,
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: Joe Sacco.
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah?
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: Guy's the best. We all grew up together.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: Family, best friends. Joe's the best.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool, dude.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: Right there, there he is.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Monty's the best, dude. Joe Sacco, that's cool. Monty's
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: just a fucking, Monty's hilarious, too.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: So where I grew up, we had about four or
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: five guys make the NHL. One on my street, Keith Kachuk,
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: his two sons play in the league.
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: TCA?
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: They call him the rat or no?
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: That's the brother?
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: No, so the father was my age. We grew up
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: on the same street. And he's got two sons that
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 2: are in the NHL right now, Brady and Matthew. Matthew
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 2: just won this, Keith right there.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: Matthew just won, right?
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: What's Matthew's nickname?
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. They call Keith Big Walt. Oh,
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: they do? Yeah, me and him went to a UFC
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 2: fight not too long ago with Brian. We went with
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: Dana White. It was hilarious.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: Dude, I was going to say, because you kind of
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: look like Dana White.
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dana's a good man.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 2: Dana's the best.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: But, oh, that's him. That's the guy. They call him
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: the Rat something, right? What's his nickname? Matthew... That kid
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: is hilarious.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: So the mother's a longshoreman.
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they call him the Rat King, dude. We'll fucking
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: see about that.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 2: So Keith's mother is a longshoreman, and she's on strike.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 2: I was with the sister yesterday on the picket line.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: She's a longshoreman as well. And Keith's father, their grandfather,
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 2: just retired a few years ago, Boston Fire Department. Great family.
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: The Kachuks? No, the Kachuk?
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 2: Kachuk.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: Kachuk. They're definitely, look, I'm not saying they're, They're using
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: extra letters, sir.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to snitch or nothing like that, you know?
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: So it is.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 2: What it is. You got to fill the back of
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 2: that jersey up.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: Hey, also in Boston, fucking who knows how to spell anything?
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 2: Listen, we have a rule in Boston. If it's any
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 2: more than three claps as a word, you don't use it.
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying. Three syllables you mean?
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 2: Three claps. You know? You got to sound it out.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: That's a nice rule. Yeah, yeah, dude. Wow, Sean, I
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: appreciate it so much, man. Yeah, thank you so much
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: for your time, brother.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, sir. Thank you.
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: Really appreciate it. It was informative. And anything else that
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: you think you need to share?
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 2: I'm an Aries and I like long walks in the park,
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 2: my friend.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: All right, dude. Look, long as you're back in an hour. Absolutely.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: All right, man.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 3: Cornerstone oh but
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: When I reach that ground I'll share this peace of
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: mind I found I can feel it in my bones