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Patriots Unfiltered 6/4: OTA Takeaways, Mandatory Minicamp Preview, NFL News · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriet's Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get and here's Evan.
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  Speaker 4: Hi?
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  Speaker 1: Evan, what time?
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  Speaker 3: This is the two thirty show?
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  Speaker 5: I was at a J. Brown's press comp.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so were they. But anyway Justin Hill was put
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  Speaker 3: on the Jols Julian or Julian Hill would ever be
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  Speaker 3: just good news.
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  Speaker 6: I do think that they kind of painted themselves in
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  Speaker 6: the corner where they really needed this player.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean, because I think they need him
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  Speaker 1: for the offense.
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  Speaker 6: I think that how they have the number one ups
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  Speaker 6: on the corner if they didn't get a J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown. Oh, you don't have to fight me. I just
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  Speaker 1: want to.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to understand what Paul sorry for, you know,
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  Speaker 3: bunting your balls the other day about the tweet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was.
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  Speaker 6: Upset about it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in the vending machine upstairs when you were, actually,
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  Speaker 3: which I go often, by the way, Hell, that vending
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  Speaker 3: machine owes me a lot of money. I got a
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  Speaker 3: bag of kettle corn and I tweeted it out. I
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  Speaker 3: got this big punk of I don't know what I
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  Speaker 3: was gonna bring it down, but I left it on
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  Speaker 3: my desk last night. The cleaning people said we got
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  Speaker 3: to get rid of this, and they threw it out
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  Speaker 3: noon tomorrow. Tomorrow, you got to make sure he keeps
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  Speaker 3: his pants on. I'm gonna make sure he put it.
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  Speaker 1: Back on, no promise. Willem is in film.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, William? Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Come on, William, you gotta be happy.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we did now Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 3: at ji Lette Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: Boston Stadium, I think Boston Stadium.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we allowed to say this BEFA monitoring this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Boston.
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  Speaker 5: It actually said in Google Maps and now calls it Boston.
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  Speaker 1: Right. They have a lot of clout, yeah, affecting Google.
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  Speaker 6: Question to get to the stadium this morning?
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  Speaker 5: I like to put it in just to know your
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  Speaker 5: traffic and you know how long it's going to take
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  Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff, and.
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  Speaker 1: Will you just to put the GPS on to get
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  Speaker 1: to work?
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  Speaker 5: I I I it's in my favorite, so obviously, so
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  Speaker 5: I hate to Lette Stadium and then it pops up
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  Speaker 5: and now it's changes to Boston Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, there you go, I just says, work. Can I
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  Speaker 1: ask a doult not supposed to do that? Dumb question?
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  Speaker 1: Of course?
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  Speaker 6: Why does FIFA demand the change the name? Is it
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  Speaker 6: just because Jellette is not a FIFA probably?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: So are there some that didn't have to change their names?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if they're affiliated with FIFA.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know New York City. Maybe it wasn't as
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  Speaker 1: dumb a question as I thought.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question, but I know that overall, yes,
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  Speaker 3: anything that is not paying FIFA money is gone, you know, clinging.
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  Speaker 6: Your access to the bathroom next door, which might be
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  Speaker 6: a problem, but sorry, see how it goes.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, but we are now tenants in our own building.
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  Speaker 3: Literally yep, we have uh, we have credentials that we
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  Speaker 3: have to wear, that says tenant.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, that's enough of that.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if they know who you are, you
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  Speaker 6: know who I am, But I think that's I watched
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  Speaker 6: the revolution.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's rather disrespectful.
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  Speaker 8: Every American stadium that FIFA is using has to change
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  Speaker 8: their name.
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  Speaker 1: Every one of them.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, wow, okay, all right whatever. Yeah, the first game
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  Speaker 3: is June thirteenth.
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  Speaker 1: Here it's coming out Scotland and Haiti. Is that what
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  Speaker 1: it is?
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  Speaker 5: I believe that is correct.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, scott I'm root in Scotland, I think I are
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  Speaker 6: you my ancestry. I'm more Scottish, mostly Scotland, you know,
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  Speaker 6: William the Conqueror, that's my is.
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  Speaker 1: Uh Is Scotland any good?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. So if they were good, then Fred
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  Speaker 1: would so.
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  Speaker 5: I think one of the one of the issues that
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  Speaker 5: I have with this World Cups. They expanded the field
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  Speaker 5: so there's now forty eight teams in the World Cup.
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  Speaker 5: Italy still didn't and Italy still didn't qualify. So on
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  Speaker 5: top of the fact that there's now it's not as
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  Speaker 5: hard to make the World Cup, that has watered down
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  Speaker 5: all the groups as well because there's more teams. So
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  Speaker 5: now getting out of the group doesn't really feel as
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  Speaker 5: difficult as it did before either. So I'm not a
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  Speaker 5: fan of I heard.
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  Speaker 3: Four Italian people went into the portal.
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  Speaker 1: They want to go to it.
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  Speaker 6: So I will just tell you anecdotally from my week
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  Speaker 6: in Rome, people would not have they were not app It's.
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  Speaker 1: A scuttle but on the street, the pulse of Italy.
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  Speaker 5: Is not a talent issue. That is seems to that
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  Speaker 5: is a coaching, organizational structure issue. I mean, Italy is
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  Speaker 5: not deprived of soccer talent.
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  Speaker 6: I amn't talked to one gentleman from Germany who was
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  Speaker 6: talking about how ridiculous he felt it was that Italy.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy, kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's like Italy it's.
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  Speaker 3: Like, you know, Switzerland not having a skier in the Olympics,
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  Speaker 3: like Canada. Right, all right, anyway, enough of that. I
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  Speaker 3: was thinking, you know, kind of a pictures related thing.
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  Speaker 3: I was watching the Red Sox last night. Peyton totally
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  Speaker 3: He's Gronk. If Gronk was a picture.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good good comp.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, like Peyton totally maybe you know, one of the
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  Speaker 6: very very few reasons to watch that team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, not just because of his talent.
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  Speaker 6: I actually think Early is a better pitcher, but totally
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  Speaker 6: is like Gronk, perfect comp He's the whole package. He's
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  Speaker 6: entertainment and.
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  Speaker 3: He enjoys it being out there.
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  Speaker 1: He's kind of a you know, like great stash. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, some hope anyway, good Win by the Socks Red Sox.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so what do we got? We were a
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  Speaker 3: day out, two days out from having access.
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  Speaker 6: Uh yeah, yeah, I'm thinking a little bit about gay
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  Speaker 6: Bacchus and why they have that has really been a
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  Speaker 6: point of questioning with Rabes.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what's what's up with him?
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  Speaker 6: We haven't seen him? I mean he was there rookie
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  Speaker 6: mini camp watching. He wasn't in any uniform, but where
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  Speaker 6: is he?
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  Speaker 1: What's up? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Normally even when rookies, you know, drafted rookies aren't signed,
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  Speaker 3: they still show up.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and he's the one that that we
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  Speaker 6: haven't we haven't seen participate.
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  Speaker 1: He's the only one left.
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  Speaker 6: So I assume we'll get that question talked to Rabel Tuesday, Wednesday,
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  Speaker 6: Thursday next week. I'm sure it'll it'll sneak its way
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  Speaker 6: into one of those press conferences. So I'm just curious.
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  Speaker 5: I might have to take matters to my own. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not sure, because I figured it would get asked both
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  Speaker 5: of the last times out. You know, we talked to him,
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  Speaker 5: and it hasn't been not I think that there's you know,
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  Speaker 5: the Gonzales situation, AJ Brown gets traded, there's other things
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  Speaker 5: that maybe are bigger, but they're not a lot bigger
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  Speaker 5: than the second round pick who at a position of
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  Speaker 5: need where you don't really have a ton of other options.
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  Speaker 6: I go back to I think what Paul said, which
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  Speaker 6: was that he was the only guy you're really expecting
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  Speaker 6: something from this year of that draft class, that you
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  Speaker 6: really need something, and it's magnified without Landry being out
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  Speaker 6: there of practice as well. Where will Landry be when
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  Speaker 6: he gets back from rehab. Maybe he'll be fine, but
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  Speaker 6: you know, I just I think ak is important. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: you might have to bump rear it in up a
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  Speaker 6: little bit with the Julian Hill injury because he's probably
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  Speaker 6: number two now. Yeah, so that role might be bigger,
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  Speaker 6: but you have to be careful. I think you might
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  Speaker 6: talked about this, you and Evan on Tuesday, just you know,
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  Speaker 6: second year tight end. If he's not ready for it,
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  Speaker 6: it's not necessarily in his best interest to give him
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  Speaker 6: a bigger role than he's ready for. But I would
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  Speaker 6: expect to have him to have a bigger role than
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  Speaker 6: I would have anticipated because of that injury.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, No, I think Acus right now is probably
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  Speaker 5: the number one question other than Gonzales with the team
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  Speaker 5: is is it injury related? Which is what Mike Reesa
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  Speaker 5: I think alluded to somewhere I don't know, on the
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  Speaker 5: Twitter sphere, I saw that. And obviously the Gonzales thing
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  Speaker 5: is holding over everything. But this Acus thing, I think
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  Speaker 5: is a number two on the storylines list right now
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  Speaker 5: is what's going on with him?
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  Speaker 6: So with Gonzales too, and I know a lot of people,
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  Speaker 6: myself included, feel like, you know, generally, as you get
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  Speaker 6: toward Mini camp and then maybe that dead period between
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  Speaker 6: mini camp and training camp, you start to see a
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  Speaker 6: lot of these things happening, right, You're starting to see
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  Speaker 6: a lot of these things happening now. This week, I
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  Speaker 6: think there were four hundred million dollar contracts you agreed
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  Speaker 6: to in the NFL Christian Watson today.
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  Speaker 1: I think in her big for Pittsburgh was one of them.
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  Speaker 6: So there's been a couple of big money and the
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  Speaker 6: one you know, and it happened during the show on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 6: I was sort of like, I know, people don't like
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  Speaker 6: when we have our little side conversations, but Evan.
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  Speaker 1: And I was showing him.
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  Speaker 6: Patrick Sartin, you know, agreed to a little slight adjustment
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  Speaker 6: to his contract that added to his total, which for
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  Speaker 6: Gonzalez is good news for the Patriots, is probably not
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  Speaker 6: great news because I think that's probably good to try
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  Speaker 6: to his you know, I think Sertan is in that class,
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  Speaker 6: you know, you know, at the top of their cornerback chart,
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  Speaker 6: and he wanted a little bit more money knowing that
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  Speaker 6: these guys have started to sign since he signed, so
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  Speaker 6: he had a little bit of an adjustment. I think
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  Speaker 6: that's going to add to the the bottom line to
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  Speaker 6: Gonzales ultimately when he signs. Yeah, yeah, well we'll see.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, is he going to be here next week?
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  Speaker 6: Is it going to be a hold in? It's going
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  Speaker 6: to be watching you know, maybe that would be my
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  Speaker 6: pick would be he'll be here. He won't get himself fined,
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  Speaker 6: although the fines for mini camp aren't huge. But I
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  Speaker 6: think he'll be here and I'm not sure how much
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  Speaker 6: he'll do.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, we really haven't seen that secondary hole
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  Speaker 5: at all. The Sprinkers. Carlton Davis hasn't been here either,
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  Speaker 5: and then Marcus Jones wasn't at the last practice that
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  Speaker 5: we were at, so we haven't really seen that Those
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  Speaker 5: top three guys, not that they need a ton of
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  Speaker 5: time working together after working together all last season. But
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  Speaker 5: it'd be interesting to see if any of them are
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  Speaker 5: back doing what they're doing all that stuff.
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  Speaker 6: And then Chucky Trees Charles Woods for those who don't know,
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  Speaker 6: was watching without there, without a helmet. But giving some
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  Speaker 6: of those younger guys opportunities. Now, maybe that jump starts
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  Speaker 6: some of them. Maybe a guy like you know, Prunty
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  Speaker 6: getting snaps that he wouldn't have gotten. Maybe it maybe
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  Speaker 6: it helps accelerate his you know, his development.
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  Speaker 1: Ville Door is more of a veteran.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, you see, I think it's a good
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  Speaker 6: point with the young guys sometimes, like I always go
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  Speaker 6: back to OTAs it's Malcolm Butler time. You know, this
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  Speaker 6: is where he sort of got on the radar. It's
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  Speaker 6: kind of the flip side of Akis where you know,
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  Speaker 6: you just you love him. I mean we talk about
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  Speaker 6: it all the time with rookies, like you get behind
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  Speaker 6: the eight ball, there's a weird random injury your first summer,
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  Speaker 6: and it's usually a fight to catch up, you know.
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  Speaker 6: I don't I think like that position, maybe not as
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  Speaker 6: much as like you know, the Nick Hill Harry where
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  Speaker 6: he's you know, receivers missing camp and those reps and
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  Speaker 6: the timing and everything so important. But you know, one hand,
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  Speaker 6: oh yeah, well, you're giving other guys opportunities like Elijah
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  Speaker 6: Ponder and you know, maybe Braden Swinton when he came back.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, you just.
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  Speaker 6: Love to have that guy who you need probably to
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  Speaker 6: contribute this year right from the get go.
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  Speaker 5: And you just kind of need to know, I think,
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  Speaker 5: do you need to make another move at that spot?
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  Speaker 5: You know, not that you would get that out of
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  Speaker 5: the spring necessarily, That's probably something you'd find out more
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  Speaker 5: in camp. But if Landry is not in a great
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  Speaker 5: place and Accus is you know, behind the eight ball
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  Speaker 5: and isn't quite ready for the start of the season,
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  Speaker 5: then do you make a call to the Giants for
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  Speaker 5: Cavon Thibodeau? Do you look around the veteran market for
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  Speaker 5: Josh Sweat with the Cardinals Thibodeau at the Giants, Like
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  Speaker 5: do you make one of those moves because you kind
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  Speaker 5: of went out, you know, the A. J. Brown trade,
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  Speaker 5: Like you're all in, like you're you're you're all in
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  Speaker 5: and you're mortgaging you know, assets into the future to
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  Speaker 5: for the here and the now, And you'd hate to
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  Speaker 5: be one edge Rusher short when it all said and
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  Speaker 5: done well.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, our our friend Scott Zolac on his show was
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  Speaker 3: texting somebody and Bertrand was was grilling him who you're texting?
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  Speaker 3: Who you're texting? And he wouldn't say it. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he had this smile like he's onto something and uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Uh, Bertrand's like, is this is it what
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  Speaker 3: we talked about?
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  Speaker 1: Is it something you know?
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  Speaker 3: And he wouldn't say, because, well, if it's it's what
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  Speaker 3: we talked about, then Patriots fans are going to really
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  Speaker 3: like it. And you know, if you're worried about depth,
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  Speaker 3: this will take care of it. That's what Bertrand said,
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  Speaker 3: was this today, might it might have been yesterday, might
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  Speaker 3: have been yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: I know yesterday I was getting texts from other people
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  Speaker 6: that were asking me my thoughts because they felt like
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  Speaker 6: Zoe was sort of alluding to the fact that Diggs
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  Speaker 6: could return.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I was picking up to.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I don't know if this is the same
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  Speaker 6: conversation or not.
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  Speaker 5: Or depth.
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  Speaker 6: This would this would be more than depth, this would
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  Speaker 6: be I mean maybe that's the case. I don't see it.
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  Speaker 6: I don't see it. I think you got what you
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  Speaker 6: needed out of Digs last year. I don't think you
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  Speaker 6: need to have him now in a logjam with Dobbs
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  Speaker 6: and with Brown, I don't know. I think that ship
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  Speaker 6: is sailed, but I mean I'm wrong, But I don't
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  Speaker 6: know what the depth means. I mean, we're already trying
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  Speaker 6: to figure out what you're going to do with Kayshawan Boody.
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  Speaker 6: Now we're talking about what we're doing. Bob Douglas, what
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  Speaker 6: are you gonna do well?
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  Speaker 1: Depth?
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  Speaker 3: In a sarcastic way, you know, if you're worried about depth,
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  Speaker 3: this will certainly take care of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Fancy football to me, Yeah, I don't know what they
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  Speaker 6: were talking about. That's to me, that would be what
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  Speaker 6: people are clamoring for, is a fantasy lineup. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 6: I I always say I don't rule anything out because
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  Speaker 6: there's been too many times over the years that I
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  Speaker 6: was like, there's no way that's going to happen, and
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  Speaker 6: it happens. You know, there's no way that Dolphins are
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  Speaker 6: going to just release Tua because that's too it. No,
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  Speaker 6: these things happen every time you think it's not. Russell
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  Speaker 6: Wilson was able to get get out of Denver. You know,
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  Speaker 6: somehow they traded Deshaun Watson. Like, you know, there's a
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  Speaker 6: million different examples of it. So I'm not going to
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  Speaker 6: say it's not going to happen. I would be so prized.
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  Speaker 6: I just don't know how it works with three guys,
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  Speaker 6: you know, arguably garnering one hundred plus targets wanting anyway,
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  Speaker 6: they've added over two hundred targets from last year. Interesting,
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  Speaker 6: and they subtracted just really as of right now, counting
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  Speaker 6: Booty in just Digs his hundred that so you've added
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  Speaker 6: one hundred plus targets from last year.
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  Speaker 1: I know you think I'm just a pretty face. All
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden you bring stats out.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, that's a really good one though. Okay, so
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  Speaker 5: it sounds so surprised.
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  Speaker 1: So you must have been talking about.
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  Speaker 6: Usually he teas it up and he's like, I just
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  Speaker 6: want you know, I did a little research today. I've
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  Speaker 6: got a statte I'm back.
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  Speaker 5: So I get made fun of for looking at charge.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So last year Digs had one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: two targets.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, so you lost one hundred and two targets, but
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  Speaker 6: you've added one hundred and twenty one from aj Brown
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  Speaker 6: in eighty five from Romeo Dogs. So you've added two
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  Speaker 6: hundred targets from last year and you subtracted one hundred
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  Speaker 6: just round numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this I kind.
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  Speaker 6: Of started this with with Booty in mind, because Booty
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  Speaker 6: had forty six targets last year.
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  Speaker 1: Where does he get his targets?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 6: How does how does that number rise? How do we
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: get him his money? How do we pay the man
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: his money? Right, it's going to be hard when you're
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: adding targets, right, and when he didn't get targets last
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: year with far less targets, right, So that's where and
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: so now if you're gonna you know again, Mike Giardi
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: reached out to me, is like, what are you hearing
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: about Diggs? I hear z Oh talking a lot about Digs.
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: Are you hearing anything? And I was like, no, I'm not.
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: But so now you're going to put those hundred targets
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: back in there with Brown's going to get a hundred targets, Okay,
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: I'd be very surprised if if Dobbs doesn't at least
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: match the eighty five that he had last year. Where
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: are all these targets going to come from. You want
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: to run the ball more, so you're not going to
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: throw it as much as you did last year.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, what if.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: You know, what if the number of play offensive plays
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: the team has increases because they're just a better offense
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: and they're matriculating the ball down the field and possessing
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: the ball longer, I don't know, Like that doesn't make
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: up for all no more offensive play.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: It's a mitigating factor for sure. You know, maybe they're better.
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: I think they were really good last year offensively, and
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: to you know, yeah, oh they were good.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I just don't see.
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: Like this started again with with Booty and we were
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: making the point that we could understand. And by the way,
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: I think Adam Schefter is the first one to actually
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: report that Booty wants a trade. He said that on
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: one of his various podcasts in the last couple of days.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: I can understand if that's what he feels, if Booty's feeling.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: I had forty six targets last year, and I don't
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: see a road where I'm going to increase that number significantly.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: And I need to show everybody that I'm capable of
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: catching more than thirty three passes, and I think he
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: looks at it as New England's not going to be
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: that place for me because I don't have a road
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: to get the targets.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just wonder what Digs, you know, last year,
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: who's only a fifty five percent snap right guy And
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: we all kind of chalk that up to him coming
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: off the knee injury and then managing him throughout the season.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: But in theory, that's a third receiver's workload. And so
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: if you assume that Dobbs and AJ Brown are your
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: base receivers or your two top guys, is Digs a
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: okay with just being the third fiddle snap count wise again,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: and you get everybody on the field. Now this is
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: a question of personalities and all that kind of stuff.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: They're the open guy, you know, and if Digs is
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: the open guy on that play, then he gets the ball.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: If AJ Brown is the open guy, now, is that
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: gonna spread the targets around enough that everybody is satisfied
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: and everybody's happy. I don't know, but you know, from
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: a football standpoint, it does work. Like you you have
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: an outside receiver with AJ Brown, you have more of
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: the flanker with Romeo Dobbs and your slot receiver is Digs,
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: and so like, it's not like it doesn't work from
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: an exus no standpoint.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: A really good player likes Digs had a good season
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: for them last year.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I do think that he tailed off badly. I have
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: numbers on that too. We'll get to that later.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Second, he came from Armed today like.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: Well, because like you get like a game thrown in
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: your face, like, oh, I guess that was wrong. Yeah,
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: I mean I didn't watch the playoffs. I guess, you know,
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: but I think I would say though, it is just
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: you know, Evan, you made the point on Tuesday's show
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: of that not the fastest lineup, and if you're putting
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: Digs into that and you're pulling back on Douglas and Williams,
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: you're now pushing more of the speed down the depth
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: chartle you know that's part of it too. And you know,
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: I just and I want to make sure that Romeo
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: Dobbs signed a four year deal. I want to make
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: sure that he gets on the same page as Drake
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: May and that he becomes that guy that Diggs was.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: And if you're always kind of playing half in, half
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: out with that, does that relationship have a chance to
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: develop and throw.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: I think that's the biggest question. It's not necessarily does
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: the pieces fit together, because I think that they can
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: easily fit to do that. And it's not like a
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: redundancy issue either, Like I think that those three guys
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: could play off of each other. But you're putting Stefan
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: Diggs and AJ Brown into the same locker room, and
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: can you handle that? And is that what's best for
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: the football team. I don't know Aj Brown. I haven't
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: been around AJ Brown. We were around Digs all of
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: last year. It's he's a personality, like he just it
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: is what it is. Like he's a star receiver in
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: the NFL, and from what we hear that's kind of
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: AJ Brown is also an alpha, So like now you
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: have two alphas in the wide receiver room, and is
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: that what's best versus you know, having AJ Brown as
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: the top dog and Romeo Dobbs the number two and
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: everybody's roles are kind of defined and makes sense and
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: everybody's happy and all that kind of stuff. I wouldn't
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: worry about it. From anoking I don't think so. I
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: have one email that says, with Dig's coming back.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I will.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I just want to make sure we're not saying he's
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: coming back.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: No, we're not saying that. I do we think Zoe
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: thinks that may.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Wait, No, we're not even saying that. We're not even
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: saying that.
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: No.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: So just yeah, well.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: That is the thing right now under the you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: everybody's probably wondering, I mean, probably other spots that makes sense.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: I will say, though, I think it makes probably more
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: sense to me, at least from all this stuff, to
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: have digs rather than booty, you know what I mean,
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: Like like inserting digs with Brown and Dobbs seems to
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: be a little bit football wise, digs is a better
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: fit for the reasons have been said.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I would agree with that.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just all it comes down to is whether
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: or not you think that they can play nice in
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: the sandbox and is there enough targets to go around
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: and you can you keep everybody happy and all that
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: different type of stuff is a is a big question
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: that I don't think, you know, we can really answer.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: Like you know, the coaching staff has been around A. J.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Brown a lot more than we have.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: It's definitely would be a good problem to have football wise.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: But like you said, they brought in Gilliam. You know
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: they want They've said they want to run the ball
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: more consistently and more and just more. Uh So again, yeah,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: where are those targets going to come from?
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: I mean that those are all football questions and and
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: they're you know, they're they're significant. My bigger concern would be,
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: I think you got everything you could have possibly hoped
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: for out of Diggs last year. And I think Diggs
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: is a great player. I used to argue with Mike
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: that Mike was unfair to Diggs's ability, you know, back
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: when he wasn't a Patriot, you know, then when he
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: became Patriot then you know, Mike was on the bullet
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: Mike was with us then. But I just think this
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: is his pattern, Like he works in small, you know,
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: short doses.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: He's not the player. Like I think that you.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: Put up with him in Buffalo for years because he's
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: fifteen hundred yard guy. When he becomes a thousand yard guy, yep,
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: you move on because he's just like all the other
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: guys now. So that to me would be my biggest
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: concern is. Aj Brown is not only an alpha, but
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: he's unabashed in speaking his mind right, I don't think
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: that's a great mix with you know, even if aj
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Brown wasn't here, I wouldn't necessarily want Digs back. I
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: think you were rolling the dice with him last year,
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: and I think you got out at the perfect time.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Here's a question I have about Digs in the locker room.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Was he the alpha in Houston and in Buffalo? Because
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: what I'm trying to get at is did he see
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: a need for that here because of the youth of
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: the wide receiver room? And did he step up and
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: take that role? Did he have that role in Houston?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: In Buffalo?
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: He was a captain in Houston. One year in Houston
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: and he wore the sea, So he was a captain
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: in Houston. And you know, I guess in Buffalo towards
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: the end, it sounds like that started to materialize and
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: he started to try to be more of a vocal
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: leader and stuff like that as that process were on.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: But I guess, you know, I think point about kind
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: of getting out of the Diggs business before it blows
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: up on you is like, maybe you know where I'm
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: kind of at with it. Where you got what you
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: needed out of Diggs last year? It was a good
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: season out of him. It was a good season for
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: the team. Uh, but do you want to take that
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: chance again that it's gonna work out, that he's gonna be.
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and then if like it's one of those risk
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: reward things like again, if I'm going to get the
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: one hundred and ten catch, fifteen hundred yard you know,
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: nine touchdown, guy, that's worth the risk. What's the what's
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: the ceiling? Like if Evans, let's say Evans whole offense unfolds,
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: So you've convinced Diggs he you know, he's going to
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: be okay being third banana and everything works great, So
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: he's going to be the third option get maybe you know,
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: seventy catches. You know, maybe he approaches a thousand yards
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: and that looks great, that that'd be great. All of
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: a sudden, your offense is like damn near unstoppable. That's
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: the upside. But to me, the downside is so much
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: more damaging than what he would what that would provide,
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like, I think you could
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: have a lesser slot guy, but have much better chances
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: of everything, you know, sort of coexisting. Like what what
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: of Mac Hollins, Like Mac Collins is a guy that
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: was in that mix with the targets last year, he
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: had about sixty five targets last year. Is he just
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: a nothing now? So like I think those kinds of
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: things should be part of the equation here, Like, how
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: is this going to impact the roster? It's not You're
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: going to make fun of me right now when you
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: deserve to make fun of me, because I'm going to
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: be hypocritical.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: It's not about the best fifty.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Three collecting talent? Is that what you're saying this case,
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: when you have talent.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: In this case is not a question of talent. It's
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: a question of what kind.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: Of Yeah well, I mean reality, Yeah well, I mean,
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: is there's something we said just would worry about the
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: year removed from the A C. L That you know,
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: maybe you didn't even have the digs that you might
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: have this year, And that he loved it here and
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: he realized what a special place this was, and.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: He really love a lot. I want to side now.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: I mean, now that is here, I don't have to
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: you know, speak from my from my locker every Tuesday.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: You know, I can take a little bit of a
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: step back. The pressure isn't quite as on me.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: The same way. I love Drake, I.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Don't know what I honestly don't know what you do.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: If they have a J. Brown on one side, they
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: have Romeo Dobs and Stefon Diggs on the other side,
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: they have a running game, they have Drake May at quarterback. Like,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know how you stop it. Good luck, Like
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: that's that's a thirty points per game off.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: If your offensive line sucks, that's how you stop it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Well, if the offensive line stinks, I don't know how
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: you start.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: Agree with Evan football wise, I don't know how you
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: stop it, but I'll tell you how it gets stopped.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: If it does, it's by them.
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: It gets stopped internally, right Yeah, And that's and I
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: think that's a very legitimate worry.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: And right now, you know, from what we know of
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: AJ Brown, we we we've heard that he's in Alpha.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: We don't know, we don't haven't been around him enough.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: And Romeo Dobbs seems like kind of like a quiet
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: guy mix, and so like right now, everybody kind of
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: has a role, They understand their role, they have a
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: hierarchy that makes sense. This would throw a wrench in
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff, Like Romeo Dobbs knows who
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: he is. AJ Brown knows who he is, Matt Collins
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: knows what he's supposed to do, Kyle Williams knows what
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: his role is like. And then yeah, I think Kyle
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Williams knows I figured out.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: I just loved that we're we literally signed AJ Brown
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: three days ago and we're already back to.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Like do we need another?
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think the only signed A Brown and that
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: was done. It was we were onto Thiboda.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: I think, well, he's unsigned, and this is a guy
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: that at a thousand yards but that doesn't have an Okay.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: What's this is always shiny thing?
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: Does anybody have any pause in the fact that he's unsigned?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Am I the only one that I thought.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: As soon as his legal case was settled in court,
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: I thought that he would be signed pretty quickly. Now
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: that the AJ Brown trade has happened, and he's still
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: not like getting immediately signed as surprising, like just for example,
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: like I have no idea why the Kansas City chiefs
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: aren't Why is he not already a Kansas City chief
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: like that? That to me makes no sense to me
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: whatsoever looking at their wide receiver room. What's going on
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: with Rashid Rice, Like this seems like an automatic thing
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: for them, and yet they don't seem too eager, So like,
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: what's going on is you know Barth brought up the
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: point yesterday. Does he just not want to do this
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: part of the offseason because he's a veteran player and
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: that tends to happen. You know, the Patriots signed Zeke
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Elliott like two weeks into training camp because he didn't
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: want to do training camp, So like, is there a
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: chance that he's saying, yeah, I'll sign, but like, I'm
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: not going to sign until the preseason because I don't
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: want to do the dog days of training camp? Like
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: that is that possible? I guess maybe? But like it
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: it is weird, so.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Interesting, But again, these lines before we got any further, Matt,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: do you have next week's schedule? Because off the top
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: of my head, I know I'll get it wrong, so
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: I just want to make sure we get that out
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: there a couple times during this show so people know.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I have it.
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: Let me just pull the exact email.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Okay, because I want to get that out Have you
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: made a definitive decision?
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: No? Do you want me to read them to you? Yeah?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Right right now? What is it?
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: Tuesday Patriots Unfiltered eleven am to one pm.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, so eleven to one on Tuesday.
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: Wednesday catch twenty two four pm to six pm.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: After practice, okay, Thursday.
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: Patriots Unfiltered eleven am to one pm or three to
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: five pm.
• 28:46
  Speaker 10: You haven't decided, y.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, So we're talking about that, and maybe we can
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: let the fans way in. If we go eleven to
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: one on Thursday, we can only talk about Tuesday and
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Wednesdays practices, which isn't the worst thing. If we go
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: three to five on Thursday, we'll have be coming from
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: the last practice of mini camp, right.
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: Yea, And we also will be doing I think Mike,
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: Evan and I will get together following all three.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Days or just the third.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: We're going to do the two days Tuesday and Thursday.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: Following Tuesdays and Thursday's practice, We're going to do what
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: we would normally do for our Trading Camp podcast.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Yea. That's a fact.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: If we good at eleven to one on Thursday, it
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: wouldn't mean that you wouldn't hear from us, or at
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: least from Paul and Mike what happened in practice on Thursday,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: they would still do something afterwards, So factor that into
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: your decision.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe keep a poll, Paul, you know, get that
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: going a lot.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Of polls over there from you today of.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: A little poll going over here, I think, uh no,
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: I we might do like just a little on field
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: thing on Wednesday, because I'm not Wednesday's practice might be
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: a little a little dialed back and.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: That that I didn't know if we wanted to bring
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: that up. But that was why Thursday morning, like, I
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: don't know how much Wednesday's practice, how active Wednesday's practice
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: is going to be, And so then we're really kind
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: of talking about too.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: And if you're wondering, you know, in the past, whether
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: it was Belichick or d Mayo, whoever, sometimes the third
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: day of these mini camps they either cut it short
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: or cut it out completely. I doubt they'll do that
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: this year since they've lost a week. They've moved up
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: mini camp from two weeks from now until next week
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: because of the World Cup. They're not going to be here
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: after next week, so essentially they've lost you knowing week,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: so they probably won't cancel that third day.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: That I did it was I did I see San
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: Francisco canceled there.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: There are many camp A lot of teams have canceled
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: many camps.
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: Because it's real football, right, Paul.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Rams are doing theirs in Hawaii. I can't
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: imagine that. That's like really a work way, you.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Know, Fred, you gotta get on.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: Why are we going to.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Twelve hours away? Why are they doing that? We all
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: have I mean I can see it for fun. Yeah,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of money.
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: I don't know why they're doing it, but it's it's awesome.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: I would love it.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: There must be some sponsorship involved. I don't I don't
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: know that the particulars. Oh yeah, Hawaii game, same thing.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Do it at the d Y Football Stadium.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: High school. Yeah, I don't know what why they're doing that,
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: but I heard that they are. I think that's confirmed.
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: They teamed up with Hawaiian Tourism Authority to boost island
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: tourism and engage with.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Local There you go, always money and medical community.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Fifty can we can.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: They're going to do a Boston.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I went to an I'm in roast Okay, good stuff,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: We got a lot of emails coming in, a lot
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: of everybody's excited. It's a Thursday in the off season.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: But the news keeps coming out of Foxborough.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: The news keeps coming out of the whole league, and
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: this is like the NFL is just active week. What
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: a juggernaut.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: I like it.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: Drake London's extension. I was talking about those hundred million
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: dollar extension. Darnel Washington's not one hundred million. Yeah, this
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: was a smaller contract. But there's been five or six
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: guys that were extended in the last two days.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: I mean this June first deadline that it beat's like
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: another mini trade deadline, Like you have a j Brown
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: and Miles Garrett get traded on a day like that. Yeah,
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: so another news cycle.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: There's always in the now.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Five five past five hundred is the Hotline podcast at
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Patriots dot Com. It's the email address. Let's go to
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: the phones. Anthony's in Seattle. What's up, Anthony? Hey Frey?
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: What's up my people?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: How you guys are doing okay? Doing great?
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Hey?
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: I was I was prompted to call in to day.
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: I gotta tell you so, du we're continuing to have fun.
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: You were on this first Man Tuesday's episode. There was
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: an excitement and like, I know, you guys are professionals,
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: but you're also human, and I could hear like the
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: excitement and it was it was just like you guys
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: were like borderline giddy. And I just thought like, there's
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: been a growing excitement ever since Brabel has come and
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: he started to make moves and everything, but I felt
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: like it all kind of was encapsul encapsulated on Tuesday's
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: show and then like hearing from Eldred and then hearing
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: from Willem, Willem.
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: Was outright giddy.
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: I mean, the guy, I'm like laughing them listen, I'm like,
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: this guy is giddy. So this is this is awesome.
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: One thing that I started kind of thinking about, and
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: I'm curious if you guys feel the same, is uh,
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: we've you know, basically since Rabel has come and they've
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: started to kind of rebuild that we've all kind of
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: alluded to it in some way or another, looking at
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: like if this team can continue to build for have
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: a couple of good off seasons that ideally we were
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: looking at kind of the twenty twenty seven Patriots as
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: that kind of quote unquote true contender. We all felt like,
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: you know, last year was was a you know, Cinderella
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: run was a head of schedule, even like, you know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: though they got to the Super Bowl, you still felt
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: they were you know, that was a little bit kind.
• 34:12
  Speaker 11: Of quote unquote fools goals.
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: But I'm looking at it now and I'm having to
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: adjust my thinking with like the addition of buyer it.
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: Even if that's a one year deal, that's a huge upgrade.
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: You got the offensive line on paper. You know, Drake
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: May year two under Josh McDaniel's first time having back
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: to back offensive coordinators, all these things, and I'm looking
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: at it now and I'm thinking, you know what, I
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: think I need to look at the twenty six Patriots
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: as that I think the window is open now and
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: that quote unquote true contender. And I mean maybe they'll
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: be even better in twenty seven. But I think I'm
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: looking at the twenty sixth Patriots that way now that
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: I was looking at that hypothetical twenty twenty seventeen.
• 34:48
  Speaker 11: Curious to know how you guys are feeling. That's all
• 34:49
  Speaker 11: I got thinks.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: All right, thanks?
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean what Evan did you say you think
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: he's the best roster in the AFC.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I know the Ravens and the Bills
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: right now are the two favorites ahead of the Patriots
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: from the betting odds from the Vegas folks, and then
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: the Chargers in the Patriots are like neck and neck.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: As for the third spot, which I find interesting, Like
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: I guess that's maybe just about their the quarterbacks and
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: MVPs and whatever. But yeah, it's it's right up there.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, we were talking about it yesterday, and you know,
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: I think Denver deserves to see that that table too.
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: Probably Denver is way less respected than even the Patriots are,
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: And I would actually, for one of the few times,
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: would actually agree with Patriots fans right now feeling a
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: little bit slighted because of the sum of the stuff
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: that Evan said. But like, I don't know, if you
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: saw the whole FPI thing that ESPN does, the Football
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: Power Index.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not going to lose my mind over it.
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: But fourteenth, right, fourteenth, like Dallas is ahead of them, Bills.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Were number two.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So like, I don't this is not a Buffalo thing.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: I think Buffalo's talent has dropped and people haven't really
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: necessarily come to grips with that.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: But fourteen to me seems, you know.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: You want to put Buffalo ahead of New Engo in fine,
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: but there's twelve spots difference between, right that those two
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: teams they hate. I would say, if you're feeling a
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: little slighted as a Patriot fan based on some of
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: that stuff, I could understand it. How do you guys
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: approach the Ravens and the Bills changing coaches? I mean,
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: and I you know, it's and I'm trying to think
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: of another example of you know, maybe John Elway, where
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: you know, a star quarterback kind of changes regimes in
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: the middle of their career. How much uncharted territory are
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: we in with the Bills and Ravens. Is this, you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: a minor bump in the road. And I just the
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: Ravens had such a personality under Harbaugh, you knew exactly
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: kind and they had their ups and downs, but you know,
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: they certainly have been have been a really good team,
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: at least in the regular season for the past few years.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: And you know, the Bills talent dropping a little bit.
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: But I just I just feel like there's such a
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: large element of unknown. And maybe it's not a big
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: element of unknown, but with the coaches changing, I just
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: don't know if the.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: Whole five it is they changed, but they're they're from
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: the tree. You know, jesse Minter was.
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: In and then you're thinking exactly on scheme right now
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: and I'm just talking general person personality, the coach trickles down.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: But it's all this, but they're all from the same tree.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: So like they're all like, I don't like the John.
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: Harbaugh stands up and says the message patricious from.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: I'm saying like I'm saying that, I think.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Generally, I think you just you know, thank you.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing fresh I'm talking about
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: when he went to Detroit.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: I I just didn't like, I don't Maybe with Joe
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: Brady it's a little bit different, but I don't really
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: look at Jesse Minter and John Harbaugh is very different,
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: like in terms of their demeanors and their personalities. If
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: we want to do that whole thing. Well, but if
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: you're a.
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: Player and I Harbaugh who has had success and won
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: Super Bowls and now I'm looking at the defensive coordinator
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: from the Chargers that you know, it's just I know
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: what you're saying.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: With I'm.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: Completely out of the out of the family as boy,
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: where like they're totally reinventing their programs, Like Jesse Minter
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: is just kind of a younger, more innovative version of
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: John Harbaugh, and Joe Brady is just like an offensive mind,
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: but he was with Sean McDermott and under Sean McDermott,
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: and so like, if they went completely outside of the
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: family and we're sort of trying to redo the whole thing,
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: then I would be like, Okay, that's different. But the
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: GMS are the same people. They're both of the coaches
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: had coached underneath the previous coach, So like it's not
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: like it's like a complete departure from the Baltimore Way
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: or the Buffalo Way or something like that where they
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: hired a completely different type of guy.
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the GM part of that is relevant
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: because I do think both teams have sort of stayed
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: true to their identities that they've had for good, you know,
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: better or worse. But I like the phrase that you
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: used about like there's an element of unknown there.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Like absolutely there is.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now I don't know exactly does.
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: It goal like it did for Chicago and New England
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: last year, right, or does it go like it did
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: for one of the teams that hired a new coach
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: and for the Patriots, you know Aaron Glenn, Yeah, like
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: does it go away way fit for the Jets, Like
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: there is an element of unknown because there's no way
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: to know for sure how a team is gonna you
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: know how, I agree with with Evan that Jesse Mintor
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: in particular, I think is kind of cut from a
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: similar cloth of John Harbaugh, you know, had the Michigan
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: ties from his brother. I think that they probably are
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: like minded. He's never been a head coach. Sometimes it
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: just doesn't work. Sometimes those guys get in front of
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: the team and they don't really command the room the way.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: They did as as That's what I saw this. There
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: is an element I.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: Saw, you know, behind the scenes miked up of him
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: talking to the team, mint Or talking to the Ravens,
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: you know, for the first time, and that's exactly you
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: know what I thought. It's just this is a huge
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: opportunity for me, and you know, talking about being excited
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: and all that, and you just you realize how different
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: it is from this guy's Now what was Harbaugh? They're
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: like seventeen eighteen, I mean almost twenty years right, Like
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: walking in with that presence of this guy's been here,
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: he knows what you know. He has a way that
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: as a speci teams guy, I guess, But how does
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: he talk to the offense? Does how does minter oversee
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: the offense?
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Is that different? Does he have input? Does he not
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: have input?
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: Always dangerous from organized Yeah, like to make these you know,
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: you're just you're watching from afar and you're making these
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: sweeping generalizations.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I would say.
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: I'd be surprised if this is not a positive move
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: for Baltimore specifically because based on the stuff that was
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: coming out of Baltimore last year, there was a lot
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: of unrest with John Harwall. I think he had sort
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: of sort of run its course.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: I think he's probably a good move for the Giants
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: because I think he gets to sort of reset and
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: refresh that message. But I think he had grown stale
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: in Baltimore and there were a lot of there was
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: a lot of stuff that was coming out about players
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: not being happy with the way he was doing things.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Oh listen, the way he handled the game we played
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: against him by not using Henry at the I mean,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: thank you.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: One thing that Anthony from Seattle said that I totally
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: agree with Is on Tuesday.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were a little giddy.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: And the last time I think we were that giddy
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: about an off season transaction was probably when they signed
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Cam Newton. Remember that, And I like, I know it
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: didn't work out.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I don't even know him anymore, but you remember that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I totally we.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Were all like, oh my god.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: We just like, do you remember when we told Eric.
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: H Yeah, I mean, and I'd say not specific, but
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: in twenty one, the overall volume of guys that brought it,
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: we had to have a special podcast for that. I
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: kind of made a special point of making sure I
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: voiced my excitement because I feel like my instinct sometimes
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: to play it down the middle and you know, not
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: get to.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: But that's like Pabab makes fun of me about A J.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Brown, Like, A J.
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: Brown has been one of my favorite, if not my
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: favorite receiver in the league since he came in.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I just it's my kind of guy. And that's why
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I make AJ Brown.
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: Well, no, you know, now, you know like that I
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: always talk about not wanting the number one receiver and stuff, Well,
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: A J.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Brown is my favorite one.
• 41:49
  Speaker 12: You know, a guy, he's your favorite one one, He's
• 41:52
  Speaker 12: my favorite number one and so to get him even
• 41:55
  Speaker 12: at this you know point where maybe it's not the
• 41:57
  Speaker 12: pinnacle just right now, but I just, you know, I
• 41:59
  Speaker 12: go back to what Josh said because it was kind.
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: Of the same feeling I had. He's just such a
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: physical presence out there. He's just he's going to bring
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: a vibe to this team that I think they already
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: kind of had a little bit, but he's going to
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: continue to put that forwardre like they're going to be
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: tough to play against. I mean, it's just every time
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: I pull up old AJ Brown clips, it's like, you know,
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: some guy trying to just like give him the old
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: two hand and push him out of bounds. Like Nope,
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: he's going like you cannot take any plays off with
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: that guy. So it's and I I went out of
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: my way to make sure like voice my excitement because
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: I do think this is a really exciting move.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go to Christian in LA.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: What's up Christian.
• 42:39
  Speaker 11: Guys. Hey you guys, Hey, you guys. So my message
• 42:42
  Speaker 11: today is not for you guys. It's put Mike brab
• 42:45
  Speaker 11: and Elliott Wolf. Get back on the phone. Elliott, get
• 42:48
  Speaker 11: back on the phone.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, why do you think he's not on the phone.
• 42:52
  Speaker 11: Listen to me. There's there's Javon Thibodau's out there. Don't
• 42:55
  Speaker 11: get him, dangling him. Yle Pitts is out there. Don't
• 42:58
  Speaker 11: get him. They're dangling him. I mean, let's I get it.
• 43:01
  Speaker 11: When you make a big trade, everybody gets giddy and happy.
• 43:05
  Speaker 11: You know it's a big success. Take my company waits me.
• 43:08
  Speaker 11: The personal assistant app just put a huge, huge billboard
• 43:11
  Speaker 11: on forty third and third times square. We're not satisfied.
• 43:15
  Speaker 11: We're not stopping. So I get the giddiness of getting
• 43:19
  Speaker 11: a j Brown, But what I don't get is stopping
• 43:22
  Speaker 11: the push to make us the best team possible.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Who says they stop? Yeah?
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Why are you sure? You're you're upset about something that
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: hasn't happened yet.
• 43:33
  Speaker 11: We are not in talks to Kavon Tibola. We're not
• 43:35
  Speaker 11: in talks to Arizona about my.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: How do you know? Yes?
• 43:40
  Speaker 11: But I'm reading aesc in this morning and they're talking
• 43:42
  Speaker 11: about other teams being in talks and in contact about
• 43:46
  Speaker 11: Kyle Pitts, Montete Sweats and Kveon Thibodeaux. Why are we
• 43:50
  Speaker 11: not in those talks? Why did they mention New England.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: So you're saying that ESPN has it one hundred percent right.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: There isn't a chance that we haven't picked.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Up the phone.
• 43:59
  Speaker 11: I think when they report certain teams talking to certain
• 44:02
  Speaker 11: teams about certain players, they probably had some insight.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: So did you So did they know they? Did they
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: know that Miles Garrett was going to the Rams?
• 44:12
  Speaker 11: I think that was a blockbuster surprise trade, right, of course,
• 44:15
  Speaker 11: I don't see a blockbuster surprise trade. But Kavon, well,
• 44:17
  Speaker 11: it wouldn't be.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: A block But my point is they don't know everything.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Sometimes teams key with things under wraps. So you know, listen,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: if if if they weren't picking up the phone and
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: lifting every rock, you'd have a right to be upset.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: But we don't know that they're not doing that, and
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I think they are.
• 44:35
  Speaker 11: I think I think they Why didn't we report Why
• 44:38
  Speaker 11: didn't we report that the that the the the Falcons
• 44:41
  Speaker 11: or dangling Kyle Pitt. Why isn't that part of Patriots News,
• 44:45
  Speaker 11: Like Okay, we're going out to these guys, We're going
• 44:47
  Speaker 11: out to that guys, or that they keep everything on
• 44:49
  Speaker 11: the hat until the last minute.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think you're you know, I
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: think you're getting upset about things that we don't know
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: for sure?
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Is a fact? Do you think Kyle Christ never mind?
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Sorry, you had to come up with something to be
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: upset about and bring it to the show, That's fine.
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: I don't need pits anymore. I mean I would have
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: probably taken a look at him early.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Now do you think he's a fit?
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: Like you have a pass catching tight end, You're going
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: to bring another pass catching tight end. Now, I'm not
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: going to say that he's maybe not more dynamic than
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: Hunter Henry.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Of course he is.
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: But is that what you need or do you need
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: a guy that's a little bit more physical at the
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: point of attack would be.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: My choice, like Cole Comet, Right, if you want to
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: get mad about Larison running back, he's physical at the
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: point of attack.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Fred Fred's gonna gaslight me all summer, I can tell.
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: But like if you wanted to, if you wanted a
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: tight end when like a guy like Cole Comett would
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: be more you know what they're looking for there? You know,
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: I think Chicago is going to keep all three of
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: those guys in.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: But I don't know.
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: If you saw Kyle Caleb Williams talking about the tight
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: end Yeah, got our we talked about all the time
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: of ye you know, made me think about that matchup
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: of you know what Patriot's gonna do with some of
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: these teams, I mean, specifically Chicago that are going to
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: run multi tight end sets. Do we have you know,
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: they don't really have multiple safeties they could play. The
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: linebacker depth is looking pretty thin right now with you know,
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: kJ Britt, I think too is a little bit of
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: like an underrated guy who's out right now and it's like,
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: you know, Spling goes down. You felt okay about Gibbons
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: last year, but you know, it's just it's like one
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: of those things where we started to play like this
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: and that. But I think that's gonna be an interesting
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: thing this year with Chicago, They're gonna be They're gonna
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: be tough to stop.
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: I mean all the teams are. Everybody's loading up on
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: tight ends and try to do the RAMS thing and
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: played two plus three plus tight ends at once. And
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: I sometimes those things happen and it sounds great in theory,
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: and then you get into the season and other some
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: teams are more equipped to do it than others, and
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: then you realize that this isn't really what we thought
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: it was going to be. We'll see how much it
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: really holds. But I mean, the draft alone tells you
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: that there was what eight or nine of them drafted
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: in the top one hundred and earlier than expected with
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: some of the those guys.
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: So they also wonder how much the combination of Sean
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: mcvay's system, in the presence of Puka and Devant Adams,
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: you know, you know, with the MVP throwing it to him,
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: helps those three tight ends, which are all kind of average. Yeah,
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: they're all good players. They're all you know, Parkinson, you
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: know that they're good players. I'm not saying they're stiffs.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: They're not.
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: Someone made me laugh on Twitter. They sent me a
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: picture of the Sonny's car wash.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Did you see that? Great? They're not Sonny's car Wash
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: all Stars. There are all three.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: Good, solid players, but they're not you know. It's it's
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: it's it's not like George Kittle and Travis Kelcey in
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: his prime. I think Stafford the system and the presence
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: of those guys on the outside makes it a little
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: easy for those three tight ends.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: All right, Sabas in North Carolina. What's up Sabbah, Hey there, gentlemen.
• 47:52
  Speaker 13: As usual, it's a pleasure to listen to you guys.
• 47:54
  Speaker 13: And I get ready to go to Italy and so.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: I'll joy Yeah.
• 48:00
  Speaker 13: Yeah, we send our kids a head five five days.
• 48:02
  Speaker 13: All they're doing is arguing stuff I said that will
• 48:04
  Speaker 13: never happen again. You know, one wants to do one thing,
• 48:06
  Speaker 13: the other wants to do a thing. I'm like, listen,
• 48:09
  Speaker 13: you're not even paying for it. Just enjoy it anyhow.
• 48:12
  Speaker 13: So okay, first thing is all this talk about the
• 48:16
  Speaker 13: wide receivers and all this giddiness is great, but if
• 48:20
  Speaker 13: we don't protect Drake May, it doesn't matter. And I
• 48:23
  Speaker 13: think the left side of the line, I don't know
• 48:25
  Speaker 13: if it's fixed, but it doesn't look like it's fixed to me.
• 48:27
  Speaker 13: And I think the defense is going to be like, hey, guys,
• 48:30
  Speaker 13: let's just disrupt that left side of the line like
• 48:33
  Speaker 13: blitz from the right. So Drake will do the protections
• 48:36
  Speaker 13: to the right and then we'll just have one on
• 48:38
  Speaker 13: one of the left against the left tackle and left
• 48:39
  Speaker 13: guard that aren't good, and then there goes to play.
• 48:42
  Speaker 13: So I'm worried about that. And my second question is
• 48:46
  Speaker 13: you guys got rid of Chase On. I know you
• 48:48
  Speaker 13: have that big defensive tackle guy, and you have obviously Gonzales,
• 48:53
  Speaker 13: But who is the defensive like headache causer on the
• 48:58
  Speaker 13: Patriots that go on this going to disrupt other people's
• 49:02
  Speaker 13: offense because I'm worried about who that person is going
• 49:05
  Speaker 13: to be.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, thank you again.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, thank you.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: I'm ninety seven in your program.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have to you have to game
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: plan for him.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, I think they've uh not last year,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: but they've done had years where you know, sacked by
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: committee or pressure by committee and it was spread out
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: and they did fairly well, you know with that scheme,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: and I think it's looking to be like that right now. Yeah,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: they don't have that one guy on the edge that
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: you have to game plan for right now.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: No.
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: I mean, Draymond Jones is a solid player. I don't
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: know if he's quite that guy. I think the big
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: question with pressure is, you know, in the playoffs their
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: Blitzer rate increased exponentially compared to the regular season, So
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: is that sustainable? Was that of product or the offenses
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: they were playing, you know, shorthanded offensive lines, younger quarterbacks
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: like things like that, or whether you know, can they
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: can they do that for seventeen games or is that
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: not really sustainable or not really the best method possible.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: But it seemed like to me last year when they
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: had to ramp up the pressure, they could send more
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: guys because they have the corners on the outside that
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: can cover, so when you need it, you know that
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: that's there for you. I mean, they signed Vera Tucker
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: on the left side of the offensive line, and you
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: hope he's better. So to that point, I think they
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: did try to get the offensive line better. Now, is
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: he going to stay healthy?
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Wide receiver improvement helps the offensive line?
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but you know it's not the same left
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: side as it was in the playoffs last year.
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: Is you know, you move Wilson in and you replace
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: them with a you know, by all accounts, an elite
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: guard in Vera Tucker, so you should be better.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but this is why we're talking about Akis and
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: Thibodeau and all all you know, these guys and Accus. Hopefully,
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: I don't know if he's going to be the true
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: game plan changing edge rusher in the pass rush, but
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: even if he's just another guy on the other side
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: of Draymond Jones that can you know, get double digit
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: sacks in a season, then at least you have bookends
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: that are solid that you can rely on. But that's
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: the one thing that seems to be the finishing piece
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: now that they have aj Brown would be a true
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: sack guy off the edge.
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: But I still have an eye on the twenty seven
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: first rounder because I feel like this year, hopefully you
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: get Gonzalez squared away. Next year you got May squared away.
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: You know, you have those pieces if it works out,
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: You've got your left and right tackle squared away. It's
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: and the receivers. You know, obviously that's ongoing. But I
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: just look at that last edge spot and I think, sabamis,
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: you know, a good point. You have good interior rushers,
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: but you know, do you have real edge threats right now?
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: And we hope that acuses but it's it's hard not
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: to look at the roster right now and be like,
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: all right, well they canna have any juice on the
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: edge or are they just going to let, you know,
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: let their offensive tackles handle the edges and be like,
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: you know, we got to make sure we get the
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: guys in the middle block don't worry about you know,
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: their edge rushers. So it's a spot for sure.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I think to focus on.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Justin Wright Sen Christian in La talk with mister Kraft
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: one time, and now he suddenly knows who the Patriots
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: are and aren't on the phone with Christian post up
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: another billboard in Times Square and let Elliott cook. What
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: does that mean? The Billboard and Times Square?
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: I don't know. Was that his companies they're not content? Yeah,
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: they're not not satisfied. He had the whole rants when
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: you were yelling at.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Him, Oh, Billboard and Times I.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Kind of liked as you played the role of Paul
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: in that call. All right, that's good.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Uh, Matt and Wichita, you talked about the last time
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: the PU crew was this excited about a signing earlier
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: in the show. I know this is impossible to quantify,
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: but do you remember someone being as excited as it
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: seems Aj Brown is to be a Patriot. I think
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: the Patriots are going to get the best version possible
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: out of a twenty nine year old AJ Brown. Well,
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: the last time a guy came here that in expressed
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: true excitement about being a Patriot, I could.
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: Count on one hand, the guys that didn't express that
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: kind of excitement when they signed.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Oh seriously, I just never.
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: Remember a guy with receipts of himself and like a
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: Patriots jersey as a little kid.
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, he was a Patriot.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I never even hear players to talk about.
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: His older cousin loved the Patriots. The Patriots were the
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: best team in football. And then he got a Tom
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: Brady shirt. Like no kidding, he was a Patriot fan
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: like that, that sort of form it formed his like childhood.
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: His childhood identity was I root for the best kid.
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: He was kind of like Fred, I root for the
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: best team there is in sports. It doesn't matter that
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: I don't live there.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I had that type of like I know, it
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: excites people, moves people like Milan Williams came in and said,
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: I hate I hated the Patriots. He's one of their
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: best players all last year. Like, I don't really know
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: how much that really, it's just as.
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: Count of two to here guys who were like I
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: didn't really watch it all that much, Like I didn't
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: really have a favorite team, you know. That was like
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: Matt Matt Light would be an example of that. He
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: didn't really watch football.
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Or I remember Judan got asked when he
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: got signed in twenty twenty one why he.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Would be on a small handful of guy. Yeah, he said.
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: The question was this is why do you pick the Patriots?
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: They paid me the most, They paid me.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: The most money.
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: He was one of the few guys that didn't expect
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: usually when we bring that parade of free agency and oh,
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: you know, you know Drake May You know, I was
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: so excited to play with him. Oh and then you
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: know the Patriots in the organization the way they do think, Oh,
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: Josh McDaniels has had so much success with it.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of excitement.
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: Do you think that that's real that the Patriots have
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: been to? How many Super Bowls?
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: Twelve, thirteen, eleven, eleventh last track of how many? You know,
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: most in the league. I mean, there certainly is a
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: special eleven place. This place is special in terms of
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: the NFL. But do you think players.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Are real when it?
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: Does it still have that kind of special place when
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: new players come in here?
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Or is it you know what I mean?
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Especially this generation of players now, they grew up as kids,
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: you know, watching the Patriots.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: You know, so I.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: Either goes one way or the other though, either hate
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: them or you love them. Yeah, you know, and a
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: lot of guys that grew up in this year or
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: hated the Patriots because they were always in the super
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: Bowl and they were always winning, and so it was
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: the other side of it. But I don't know. I mean,
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: Grenk was from Buffalo, Like he's literally from Buffalo. He
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: was at a Sabers game, like banging the drum in
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: the playoff run, like you know, these types of things.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I've been better if the Bills picked him. It was
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: his child.
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: I know, it's fun. I know it's a cool like
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: little like story and connection here with AJ Brown.
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: But I just love the pictures of like little Antonio Brown,
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, sorry A J.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Brown. I'm imagining him. I'm just imagining him.
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: Like in Pop Warner, you know, like this is the
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: kid that's just tearing the field apart with this big
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: smile on his face.
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: They probably would have been better than some of the
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: receivers they had, and.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Brad writes in a little bit of a Debbie down here,
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: with the addition of AJ Brown, the Patriots wide receiver
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: room is undoubtedly better, But where exactly does the value
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: come from. Most There's no doubt that A. J. Brown
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: is an upgrade from Stefan Diggs.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: But with Diggs.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Already being a one thousand yard receiver and AJ Brown
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: only expected to get a couple hundred yards more than that,
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: is it really that much of an upgrade or would
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: you say that there is more value in the number
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: two receiver upgrade from Booty to Dobbs.
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: If he gets a couple one hundred more than that,
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: that's a significant upgrade like that, that's a big difference.
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: Twelve hundred to one thousand, that's a big difference. I
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: don't think that's a significant upgrade. By the way, Brown
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: over Diggs last year. I think they're completely different players,
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: and I think he the reason I'm excited about Brown
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: is because of what Mike and Ever have been talking
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: about for two shows now. It's like having such a
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: different kind of player who I think really fits well
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: with what Drake may does. Mike talks about the physicality
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: after the catch. Those are things that Diggs didn't provide.
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: But in terms of just flat out players, Diggs has
• 56:40
  Speaker 6: had a better career. Diggs is a better player, and
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: last year they had almost identical numbers.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: I think that from a x's a nose standpoint, it's
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: harder to defend the true X than it is.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I think it makes more sense to have Brown than Diggs. Well, yeah,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: totally agree.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: When you talk about the addition, it's like Brown's over here,
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: He's an addition you're really looking at. Is there a
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: drop off from Dobbs to Digs?
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: That's how I would look at it.
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And what I would worry about is what Mike
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: gray Bowl has talked about a couple of times this offseason.
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: It's not the numbers per se, it's the efficiency. And
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: there was a remarkable efficiency when they threw the ball
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: to Stefan Diggs last year.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I think it was like, did you get eighty five
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: catch up? It was eighty five eighty five for one
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: oh two.
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: I think I want to say it was like eighty
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: three percent eighty three percent of his.
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's a remarkable efficiency that is going to
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: be awfully difficult to duplicate for anybody, let alone someone's
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: coming in New h That's that's.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey and Canada rights in for veteran players.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Is there any actual value in OTA's in mini camp
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: it kind of seems like a waste of time for them.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: I think our cornerbacks will be exactly the same this
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: season if they do or don't go to mini caamp
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: rookies maybe new to the team players, but even that
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: seems like a stretch. Kevin Byard knows how to play football.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Is a mini camp really making any difference in his season?
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: My theory is the OTAs in mini camps really is
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: just another source of content for the NFL, which insists
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: on trying to be relevant twelve months a year, and
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: of course we as fans come running to the feeding trough.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I disagree.
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: I couldn't disagree more.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I disagree.
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean from a communications standpoint, like Kevin Byard
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: has never played with Craig Woodson, He's never played with
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: Christian Gonzales, Carlon Davis, Marcus Jones, Robert Spellane. Like maybe
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: these guys overlapped, maybe briefly.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: Here's the evidence of whether it's value. We've seen the
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: guys that come in late or for miss it because
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: of injury, whatever, they get behind, and even in training
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: camp they're clearly behind because they weren't here in the spring.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so passing games standpointed offensively to timing with the quarterback,
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: like yeah, you know, understanding with the quarterback. Like I
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: think we've seen a little bit of growing pains with
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: Drake Man Remeo Dobbs already, where like there's just little
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: little ball placement things and like I want the ball
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: here instead of you know, on this shoulder, put it,
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: you know, on me, or instead of in front of me,
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: put it behind me a little bit here or whatever.
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: But like really the communication on defense of we're getting
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: this motion or this check or this bunch or this look,
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: and how are we answering it, Like what's what's our check,
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: what's our alert, what's our you know indicator here all
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: these different types of things. Is that they build that
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: menu this time of year so that when they get
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: into training camp they can compete and they can get
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: ready for the season.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: The power of friendship time here.
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: Two, I think the coaches put value in that of
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: you know, the little activities they do. And then we
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: posted a video today of them, you know, rescuing pat patriot.
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: But I think that's this is a time when you're
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: not under the gun of the NFL season. It's not
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: that relentless schedule that you experience, you get to know
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: your teammates a little bit as well. Off the field,
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: you do some fun stuff together, you know, you start
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: to get to know these guys that you're going to
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: be playing with and going through tough times. I don't
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: know how important or not it is, but I would
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: just say that the consensus around the league from people
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: watch and follow the league is that the level of
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: play at the beginning of the regular season is often down.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: And the reason for that, a lot of people say
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: is because of the lack of practice time, lack of
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: hitting and training camp, lack of these you know, these OTAs.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: And he goes back to twenty eleven when they had
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: the changes in the offseason rules with the new CBA
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: that people started to complain about. Say, as an example,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: there's no offensive lineman in the league because there's no
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: way to simulate offensive line play without pads, and they
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: don't get enough work. And so I don't think you
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: can say all those things about well, September is really
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: just an extension of the preseason because no one's really
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: ready to play, and at the same time say, well,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: it's not really anything to begetting now do does a
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: ten year veteran need to be at OTAs. No, now
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: does it help Kevin Byerd for the reasons that Evan
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: said as the first time you with with of course,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: But I understand the guy's point about it's you know,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: like I don't necessarily think Christian Gonzales, as an example,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: was losing a whole lot not being out.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: There every day. But isn't it better to be there
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: than not?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that they're losing anything from a
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: like Gonzalez is not gonna have a bad season because
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: he wasn't at OTAs. But I think that a lot
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: of the communication things is important. Like we were out
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: there on Tuesday and you know, they hit Pop on
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: a coverage bus over on the left sideline and he
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: came into like a little bit of a motion. It
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: formed a stack. The two corners were on different pages.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: They both covered the same guy. You know, let's let
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: that happen now so that in the AFC Championship game
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: it doesn't happen, right, Like, those are the types of things.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: And then you come together and you have talks, and
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: you go back into the film room after practice and
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: you go through the plays of practice and you talk
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: about you know, what did you see? What did you see?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: What do we want to do here? Like, that's what
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: this time of year is about. It's mental. It's not physical.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: It's not like Zales is not going to be good
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: enough because he didn't play in OTAs. It's the mental stuff.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 6: Is this your birthday, Paul, Happy birthday, Happy birthday.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: Thord Or has the same birthday, so he's wishing you
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: a happy birthday and happy birthday.
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  Speaker 1: To you as well.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: Thank you, really really happy about the aj Brown trade.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: But do you feel like we need to upgrade the defense?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: And would you swap a twenty twenty seven first round
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: pick and a twenty twenty eight second round pick for
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Max Crosby.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: I would not have them picks.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: Me and deuced would have nothing to do with that.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Now you don't have more drafts for two straight years.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: We have a big board that starts in the third round.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: I probably wouldn't because I don't. Yeah, I probably wouldn't.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 6: I'd be a little worried about now you have two
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: major acquisitions with knee issues.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: And older Yeah.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'd like to just hope Backus can develop
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: into something okay, building.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: I know, I feel like I'd feel a lot better
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: about this if Accus had been practicing this whole time
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: and like looked the part and was, you know, wearing
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: the suit correctly. But because we don't know that such
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: a major unknown, like whatever you get out of Harold Landry,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: I feel like is kind of a bonus this year.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: I'm not really expecting much. Yes, like if Acus is
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: not what we all think he is, especially Deuce and I,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: then you know, I don't.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: Know, Uh David is in Florida.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, David?
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  Speaker 11: Hey guys, what's going good?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 14: So, first, I didn't know it was your birthday, Paul,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 14: Happy birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Put that on your phone.
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  Speaker 14: So I just had two things. The first thing is
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 14: a quick one. There's I guess there's a lot of
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 14: rumors about uh Diggs maybe coming back. I don't personally
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 14: carefully bring him back, but I was just wondering if
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 14: you think there's any smoke to that, and if there is,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 14: do you think that that's like how does that fit schematically?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 14: Like is it realistic?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I guess you missed the hour of the show. Yeah,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I would listen to Evan.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna mention that a.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: Very very well, earlier in the show about you know,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: the roles, just solidifying Brown on the outside. Dobbs is
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: sort of like a flanker, and then Diggs is a
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: pure slot and I think it's three very different kind
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: of things.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we broke it down.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: Go back and listen to the beginning, because Evan did
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: it a lot more in depth than that.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 14: I'll listen to that. But my other thing was, it
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 14: seems to be like a four gone conclusion to everybody
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 14: that we're going to regrets this year. There's gonna be
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 14: some form of regression. And I believe that with the
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 14: record maybe, but I was wondering if you still believe
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 14: that with Drake may because you know, do you guys
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 14: think it's not likely that he passes five thousand passing
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 14: yards or doesn't throw for forty touchdowns? Like what does
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 14: that look like? And do you think he could have a.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: Better Nobody threw for five thousand year, So yeah, that's
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: a high number.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: Don't go by the numbers this year. For me, it's
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: really how is he in critical situations? How is he
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: against the better defenses? That's what you're looking at. What
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: you're looking I agree, Yeah, Yeah, it's funny. I think
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: it was you, Paul, What was it, Evan? I don't
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: know one of you guys, I was talking to you.
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  Speaker 6: I think it was a was about we're saying, like,
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  Speaker 6: you know, now that we've got more of a sample
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: sized Drake, it was Devin.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're saying you kind of know when he's
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: feeling it.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's kind of obvious when Drake's feeling He's
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 6: a rhythm player, you know, so that's like, how do
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: you get him into that rhythm consistently and keep them
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 6: there and avoid those games where you know it felt
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 6: like it was a little bit all right.
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  Speaker 4: housekeeping items here? Hold on, Karen, So Doug Maroon is
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  Speaker 4: going to get his knee cleaned up? Okay, we work
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  Speaker 4: our coaches pretty hard here, just like our players, and
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  Speaker 4: so I think it's best is to have that done
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  Speaker 4: now so that Doug will be ready to go for
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  Speaker 4: We have moved, after some deliberation, the mandatory mini camp
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  Speaker 4: to next week June ninth, tenth, and eleventh. That'll give
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  Speaker 4: us you know, Monday to clean up a couple of
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  Speaker 4: physicals on some guys that weren't here previously, and then
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  Speaker 4: three days of really good work there and then that
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  Speaker 4: will conclude, you know, the veteran offseason program. Will have
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  Speaker 4: the rookies for a little bit of time after that,
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  Speaker 4: and joint practices so as well as those worked out
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  Speaker 4: last year, certainly the one day with the commanders here
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  Speaker 4: and then traveling to Minnesota. We'll have Indianapolis on the
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  Speaker 4: eleventh on August eleventh, which will be you know, this
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  Speaker 4: very good team to go against. This a very good
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  Speaker 4: offensive football team, Shane's excellent offensive coach and excellent head coach,
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  Speaker 4: but very good offensive line versatility on their defense, so
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  Speaker 4: that'll be an important day for us. And then Philadelphia
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  Speaker 4: will come here for the eighteenth and nineteenth excuse me,
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  Speaker 4: nineteenth and twentieth of August, so that allow us to
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  Speaker 4: work against an accomplished football team that's used to winning
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  Speaker 4: and has a very good football team and great great
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  Speaker 4: players and well coached the last item or yeah, Julia, Hi, Julia, congratulations.
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  Speaker 4: So Julia just decided to dabble in a marathon in
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  Speaker 4: Oregon and ran it in two hours and fifty minutes
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  Speaker 4: in two seconds. Yeah, I know, and and one, So
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  Speaker 4: congratulations Julie. I don't keep those things a secret. So
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  Speaker 4: she went and dabbled in a marathon and won. What
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  Speaker 17: Given your relationship with aj Brown, knowing him as a
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 17: personal player, how important uh was it.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: For you to make that deal happen?
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 9: Well?
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: Not important? I mean again, I think that just trying
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: to improve our football team every possible way, you know,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: give our offense multiple weapons to build on what we
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: did last year. And I think having you know, experience
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: with the person you know to be able to add
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: an accomplished NFL football player, receiver, premium player at his position.
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  Speaker 4: But somebody that that we also don't feel strongly about
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  Speaker 4: as as a person and a competitor as a teammate.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I appreciate Elliott for for being able to
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  Speaker 4: work and get that done.
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  Speaker 6: Knowing did Jim more like what makes him such a
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: special wide receiver.
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  Speaker 4: I think he loves football. I think that he has
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: a physical skill set. I think he's got great body control.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's strong at the catch point. But I
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  Speaker 4: also think he as he's grown as as a as
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  Speaker 4: a player and as a receiver, just the nuances of
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  Speaker 4: you know, releases versus press or playing verse bracketed coverages
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: or zone coverages, plays physical with the football and you know,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: again has has been productive and a consistent player.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: You coached him?
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  Speaker 6: Did did a j ever tell you that he was
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 6: a Patriots fan?
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: But I think that that was known in a long time,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: you know. I mean I think I knew that, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I think he showed me pictures when he
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: was a little kid wearing my jersey and stuff like
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: that that that he didn't wear. Yeah, I mean I
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: think I knew that just from the time that he
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: you know, like when I think when we drafted him,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: he was like, I wish the Patriots drafted me, and
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: I said, well that's that didn't happen. You know, we
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: the Titans drafted. So you know, I think that you know,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: there's a you know, the success that this team had
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: and in those years when you know, a lot of
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: our players were growing up. You know, it would be
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: easy to to root for a lot of players that
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: played for this team in the you know, early two thousands.
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  Speaker 18: He had a multuous time in Gohadelphia production and success
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 18: they had.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: Why that won't uh well, I mean again, whatever happens
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: or comes up, I think that I can't say that
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: there's not going to be things that come up with
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: with aj with you know, any single player, right. I
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: think that this is a competitive game. Highly competitive players
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: want to win. Players want to do everything that they
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: can to help their team. They want to make sure
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: that people are on the right page. So I don't
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: I don't get into a lot of that. I think
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  Speaker 4: what's the most important is that you know, those things
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  Speaker 4: don't carry into the to the locker room, that they
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: get handled, and you see that all the time. On
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  Speaker 4: the sidelines. We want to have conversations in a meeting room,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: we want to have conversations at practice, and you know,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: some sign those conversations are animated, but it's all in
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: the sake of trying to get on the same page
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: and get right. So, you know, again, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: what happened. I'm not I'm not trying to figure out
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: what happened in Philadelphia. I'm trying to focus on what's
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: going to happen here UH and trying to get him
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: acclimated to to what we do and how we do it.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 18: Like there's a lot of reporting about having a degenerative
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 18: n condition. You're obviously comfortable enough to make the trade
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 18: for him, but is that something because of your past
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 18: history you gained a little more comfort and you have
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 18: to manage this player though going forward.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: When you get to talk about ninety guys or ninety
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: one guys, there's going to be a different plan for
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: for every single guy. And again, I think that looking
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: at the body of work and the availability that he's
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: been able to have and whether we have to manage
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: him or anybody else. It's a long season, so you know,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: there'll be things that we'll have to deal with and
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: we'll try to do that accordingly. But you know, just
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: based on looking at you know, his his availability in
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: the games that he's been able to play in UH
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: and be there for his team, I think that hopefully,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: you know, leads to to future availability. You know about
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: a j that you hope we and his teammates learn
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: about him, that he that he loves football, that he
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: cares about his team. I think he is uh, you know, knowledgeable,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: and you know again, I think that he doesn't have
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: have to prove anything to anybody. Nobody does. They have
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: to go out there and practice, They have to know
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: what to do, they have to play to a certain identity,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: uh and and do their job and and focus on that.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: Nobody needs to to do anything that's you know, outside
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: of what we've ever asked any of our players to do.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: And I'm confident that he'll do that. And you know,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: he's humble, you know that these are I'm excited to
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: have him get to know our players, and our players
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: get to know him and everybody else as we work
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: through the last couple of weeks here.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: To play under the contract that he had with the Egos.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: I mean been here a day, so, I mean the
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: plan is for him to practice and try to get acclimated.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't I don't see anything that would
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: preclude him from doing that. I mean, right now, I'm again,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: I just excited to add the player and know the
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: football team is looking forward to having them and practice
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: and get acclimated and whatever that looks like today. So
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: you know, by all accounts, you know he's ready to go.
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  Speaker 16: As as he gave up a first round you gave
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 16: up a first round pick to get him.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: Do you view this as a win now? Move? We
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: have to We have to win. That's our job is
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: to win, you know, that's the job and responsibility and
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: the expectations in the National Football League. It's not to
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: go four and thirteen two years in a row, if
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: that's what you mean. Chilian won't be able to play
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: the season playing, so devastating all I really enjoyed the
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: person and I want to have him around here as
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: much as we possibly can, but uh did just because
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: he wouldn't be able to play this season. So you know,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: that's just disappointing because of just the impact that he
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: made in a short amount of time with his teammates
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: and then just the person that he is, the way
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: that he practiced, and you know, so again we'll we
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: want joining to be a part of us as much
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: as possiblely, just not going to do that on the
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: field this year.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: That's something happened to practice.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: That was something that happened in practice.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 17: Yes, already, take his physical that he passes, so and
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 17: what do you expect from his practice?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: It's uh, just patients today.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: Yep. AJ passed the physical and well we'll be out
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: there in some capacity. We'll have to monitor it, you know,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: just because he hasn't been with us, and so I
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: think it's important that that we do that, but also
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: important that he'd be out there and kind of see
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: how we do things. There's I'm sure there's thirty two
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: different stretching routines and thirty two different individuals and you
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: know kind of where everything goes. And I think that's
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: important process too. And hopefully he can, you know, no
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: enough to line up and and take some snaps in
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: some of the team periods as well. I believe it
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: was last year with the Eagles.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: You mentioned the intelligence.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: Do you see him as more of an ex in
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: your system or more of a chess piece of you
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: like I mean, I think all the guys right now
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: are going to learn a lot of the different positions.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: I think that the ones that have been here. That's
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: how Todd's tried to install the offense, is to know
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: what each player has on each concept and learn it
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: that way. And I would imagine that Aj would would
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: do the same and give the give guys the ability
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: to line inside Kyle or line outside and you use
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: you know, Romeo inside. So I think to try to
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: just right now, he's going to have to learn one
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: position and I would imagine that's going to be outside,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: But as that grows, I know that that will be
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: you know, across the board, and I think that that's
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: hopefully something that he's looking forward to do. But you
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: have to learn one before you can learn them all.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 17: With the event with Drake the other day, what was
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 17: it like to just see the team come together in
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 17: that way and show support and also kind of have
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 17: that low competitiveness but also just the camaraderie.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 9: Of the team.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think it just speaks volumes to
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: to Drake and and Michael just the people that they
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: are to to organize something like that for the fans
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: and you know where it was and the amount of
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: the families that were out there, that's ten thousand people
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: and I would say most of them were families.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 11: Uh.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: The support that he got from from the players, and
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: I could imagine when they saw that it may rain
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: and guys could have could have bailed on them, and
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: I think it was just an amazing night, a fun night,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: a little bit of competitive. Some guys that I thought
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: were better at Marcus Jones played a hell of a
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: second base and you know, I was pretty impressed, and
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: I think the guys had a good time and it
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: was for a great cause.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 17: Christian, at one point, did your competitiveness.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 7: Come out a little bit?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: No, I was not. I was trying to coach. And
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: you know, we the umpires were not interested in any
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: of our replays that that we thought. You know, at
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: that point in time it was seven to nothing. I
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: was like, you have to try to keep this thing close,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: and they they didn't want to try to do that.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: So just having fun and it was you know, it
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: was great to see Gonzo and everybody else that came
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: to support Drake and a Michael and.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: Now great moments in.
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  Speaker 2: History and quick movie trivia.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: What famous movie director produced a nineteen seventy one film
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: with up and coming with an up and coming movie director?
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: But what you don't know who that is anyway, The
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: answer is Francis Ford Coppola, but he.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: Did a TV show.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: What famous movie director produced a nineteen seventy one film
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: with an up and coming movie director?
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: But like that could be anyone who's the up and
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: coming movie director.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: He said, Francis Ford Coppola.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: No in that. Yeah, it sounds like there's two different guys, right, yeah,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: two different I don't know.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: Scorsese and Coppola clarified. Did they do?
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: The movie was American Graffiti and George Lucas was the director.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta keep reading. That's another great moment. All right.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: Back here on Patriots Unfiltered, Ay five to five Pass
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: five hundred is the Hotline podcast at Patriots dot com
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: is the email address. All right, we've been talking about
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: the depth of the wide receiver room and rumors and
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: all that stuff and and everything else. Will the defense
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: be better? What do they need?
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: You know, we're excited.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: We're excited.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, excited.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: I mean I'm excited for the schedule. You know, I'm
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: just excited to watch some good games, you know, like
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 6: the kind of opponents that get your blood going.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: It's like last year it was like all right, I
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: mean it was totally different frame of mind. I think
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: that's part of like why people are excited. It's like
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: I remember a certain point, maybe it was around when
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 6: they were getting like Moss and it just felt like
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: every year the Patriots were in it to win it,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 6: and they were getting players, and I remember sitting there
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: being like, to the other teams want to win the
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: Super Bowl? Like why is the why are the Patriots
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 6: the only team going out? And you know, getting Randy Moss.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: Anybody could have had Randy Moss. He sits there for
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 6: you know whatever. It was fifth round pick. And now
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 6: it feels like you're getting back to that point and
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 6: you want to watch good games.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: You want to go against the teams. I don't want
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: to hear about the schedule next year. I want you know, they're.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 6: Gonna lose a tough game to a good team.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: All right, that's what it is.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: But I'd much rather watch that than you know, see
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 6: them beat up on some crappy team and then everyone.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: I don't mind that, but.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: It'll be something you the easiest schedule was last year.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: This year will be something else, like the quarterbacks will
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: all get hurt and they'll face a running back up
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: quarterbacks or something like. It's always something that.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: It's always gona happen in the Rams this year, like
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford is going to just go down.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: And they got this Super team, but then.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: They listen, knock out the Simpson. It can happen any team.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: That's the one the worst part of the NFL, of
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: the injuries. It really, it's very frustrating. All right, back
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: here on the phone, eight five to five past five hundred,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: Eldred running calling in.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: What's up? Eldred in the truck?
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 19: All right, yeah, beg beg of my natural element. Yeah,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 19: question any of y'all worry about guns old deal might
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 19: not get done. You might do afterwards.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit, but you know, there's so many
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: other things right now to talk about and think about that.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: I'll let that take care of it.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: But you know, let's see if we get into late
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: training camp and it's still not done and there's signs
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: that he's not happy.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 6: We're not worried yet, but until it's done, you know,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 6: it's yeah, it's a concern.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a little word.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 19: It ain't gonna lie to you. Yeah, I'm a little worried. Yeah,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 19: because all the additions and everything we getting, and because
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 19: I don't like it. Like I said the other other time,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 19: they got to face nice to win.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 11: The super Bowl if we get there and a lot.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 19: Of skips is not going it will shoot you a bone, buddy. Hey,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 19: I got so many panther friends over here, you know,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 19: and if you read to what ch Kyle Rathers are
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 19: getting high praises all over and they said we got
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 19: one and two. But like I tell him, you ain't
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 19: got to you got to shoot to throw it to him.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 19: You ain't got a cannon.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 11: I wish we had the cannon. So there's all I have.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 19: And y'all have a good one.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: All right. Thanks. Thinking always brings it.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: I always love to hear that the spring O t
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: a standout guys, like the best shape of his life.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: Watch out for this guy. I love it.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: But hey, the phone calls seemed sound really good today,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: Like did we do anything like crystal clear? Everyone seems
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: to have a job on it, Like there's no bad connections.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: Simply I did it.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: You simply take credit. Do not shake your head.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, you simply take credit.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: I noticed the last couple of shows, a couple of
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 6: things bred. I thought that might be the solution. I
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: didn't want to mention it, but yeah, you're welcome.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, you're welcome.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: There was something else I wanted to say, but I
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: forgot anyway, I'll go to this email from Kakar in Jacksonville.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: I completely understand why the Patriots need to move on
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: from Booty, but I have a feeling that he will
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: be the first wide receiver to be successful on another team,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: specifically the Chiefs or Bills. Paul.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, you were saying the.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: Whole Yeah, I'm not going to narrative of people when
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: players leave here, they none of them do well?
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Is not true. No, there's plenty of guys.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, yeah, let's talk about wide.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: It was a long time ago anymore.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: It's a famous one.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of guys that have commun you know,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: that was largely true for a small section of like
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: O one, O two oh three.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: They would like, let some guys go.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 6: You know, Tyla led the league in interceptions, and somehow
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: everybody said, like nobody whoever leaves here ever does anything.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: You know, Adam Van Terry left here and you know
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: he's in the Hall of Fame now, Like, it's just
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 6: not true.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 5: Chandler Jones is always the big one for me. Yeah,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: Chanler Jones had like an eight year career after he
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 5: left the Patriots, was one of the best pass rushers
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: in the league.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: I just don't know if you have one where it
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: was somebody like in Nikhil Harry, somebody was a high
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 6: round pick that you're really counting on that just couldn't
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: do anything here and then went like your example, veteran guy.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Deon Branch was fine in Seattle. Yeah, I mean.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 6: Part way is not a big deal with you know,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 6: those are the ones that like Taekwon and White in
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: the butt, Yeah, Taekwon and the you.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: Know, those are the ones.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 6: I would say Jacoby Myers is probably the best example
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: of a guy who did well away from here, you know,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: But I think that speaks more to the guys don't
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: do anything when they leave here at that position because
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 6: you've had a hard time drafting that position.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 5: And they trade a first round pick for one and
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: everybody thinks it's too much.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, BB and NH.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Paulie says, I'm a fellow Gemini.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 6: The twins dated at Gemini once. I'm not we should
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 6: have Alex here. She's on So I have no idea.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: So Bb is celebrating his birthday by skydiving tomorrow. Would
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: you do that? Paul skydive? No, no, no, No, I'm
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: a scared I don't think I would do it.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 6: I would, I'd be scared it once you would, I
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 6: could definitely see you doing that.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe not now would.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 6: You have to be strapped to somebody though, No, I
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: would want to do that now.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: Watched I'm an individual sport guy on your back.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 5: It's gonna be like the ones that you do where
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 5: you sign the waiver and stuff like. I don't think
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: they do let you go solo anymore. No, they don't,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: not that i've seen. I would do it, but you
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: would do it.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: You're adventurous type.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to know you now.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 6: I don't really have a desire to you anymore. It's
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 6: em going to space. I don't really have a desire
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: to go to space anymore.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: I don't even like roller coasters, let alone.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: I would love to go to space.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: Speaking of space, I watched that movie A Project tail Mary.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: What do you think It wasn't what I thought it
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: was going to really, Yeah, but it was good, you know,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: thought provoking. Not as much as Interstellar, but I thought
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: it was a good movie. Almost good ride, a little
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: quirky at times, It's fun.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 6: Ryan Grossling's great I mean he's just he brings so
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 6: talented and funny.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna Star Wars.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Smolder.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: Couldn't you just say he was good looking. You had
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: to say he was sexy. You had to make it weird.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: Good looking is one thing for he's a liability and coverage.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: I also went to the theater and I saw Mandalorian
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: and brogog Right.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: We talked about that.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: I liked that movie. A lot of the Star Wars
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: people were like, you know, they didn't really need you know,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: it wasn't that good a movie.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: There was no point to it.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: It was it was really what that show is like,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: Now do you have to make a movie? No, you
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: could have made that into the season and and made
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: that one.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: Of the plots.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 6: But it was a good, fun movie. That's what I
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 6: said to my son. I was trying to like, you know,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 6: challenge him a little bit, and I was like, what
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 6: would you say the difference was the plot of that movie?
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: What was the story though, because there's definitely a plot. Yeah,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 6: it's not really a story, Like you don't really go
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 6: anywhere with the man, Lauria. I mean, he's just kind
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 6: of he's the Mandalaurian. He's you know, there's no like
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 6: advancement of his character now, but it was we saw
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: it in three D. It's a summer movie, two hours.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 6: I wasn't like I got a out of here, it's
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 6: too long.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: Well, the whole thing with Mandalorian and Grogu is all
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: this stuff is happening in the background of the last
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: three movies that came out, you know. So this stuff
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: was happening like five years after New Hope, and so
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: in the meantime there's this still struggle between the Rebel
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: they aren't the rebels anymore left, the Alliance and the
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: old Empire that are trying to cobble it back together again.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: Mandalorian is just like a little side story.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, now it's it was fine, It was fine. I
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 6: need Grogu though, to advance a little bit. I'm like
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: that he's cute and he doesn't know what he's doing,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 6: like he's getting played out. I want to see, like,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 6: but he's not going to live like a thousand years,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: But that's just.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 6: That's just accelerated a little bit. Like I didn't want
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 6: to see like, you know, like tween Grogu who you know,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: he's a little irresponsible, you know he's but he's not
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 6: like trying to can't figure anything out, like you can't
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 6: figure anything out.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: We played that beat out right.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, my algorithm has now picked up, like people are
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: sharing their biggest nitpicks with Star Wars, like the whole
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: the whole thing, like it can be anything from anywhere,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: you know, like I guess in a Phantom Menace in
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: the scroll at the beginning, it says two Jedi Knights
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 5: are like going to the trade negotiations and Obi Wan's
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: not a Jedi Knight. Yeah, yeah, like little things like
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: but it's like little things like not like major plot
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: holes like I would just say.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 6: My thing with it is that I have no idea
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 6: if they knew that. I don't think they thought Darth
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 6: Vader was the father in Star Wars, and they definitely
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 6: didn't think Leo was the sister.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: And the second one when Luke's like she's kissing Luke like.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: Five, I was gonna say they kiss that was all
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: like this Thrones.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 6: Then you know, you need like a big, a big
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 6: thing for the movie, and you're like, what if I'm
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: not one hundred percent sure on Darth Vader, though. I
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 6: think they like that because that makes too much sense.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 6: But I don't think he had it. I think he
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 6: I was like, you know, what'll be cool. It's like
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 6: he's his father and then that's the big reveal.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I mean they made out.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: In nh also says what is the p U crew's
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: favorite part of the off season, whether football or later
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: or not, and what does the crew think is the
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: most important or pivotal part of the offseason for the
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: team's development and success.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 5: My answer for that question is the same the draft.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: In the draft, he loved the draft.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: Well, to me, it's it's May's development in the O
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: line improvement. Yeah, I mean that's that's it. Everything else is.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: You know, like you May May's development.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean if he continues to rise, the team
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 6: wills as well.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: Let's see. Matthew writes, and he's from Saskatoon. I think
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: s a s K sure, Saskatchewan could Saskatchewan could be Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: He says he has a concern for Mike to requests
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: in a football question.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: Happy that Mike's procedure went well and he's back at work,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: but I concerned that the doctors might have missed something
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: when diagnosing him. I've noticed that Drake May has cut
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: back on his oh shoots in his press conferences, but
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: now Mike seems to give.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: At least one oh shoot every podcast.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: That North Carolina twang is known to be highly contagious,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: and I hope Mike can get the help he needs.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: That's fair.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 5: We do, we do.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 6: I do slip in a Drake modes sometimes just throw yeah,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 6: you know you just somebody.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: Maybe it's not conscious, but it does feel like he's
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: cut down on the years.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: I think he's gotten a little training.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe Jerry Maddello, Yeah.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's getting some media his job. I don't know
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: if it's media savvy or just him becoming more confident
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 6: in himself and more used to talking to these people
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 6: and he recognizes all the faces.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 5: And because he loves it so much.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, right.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: Two requests are one, can you start using Evans return
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: from Practice song again? As it is easily the best
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: and catches theme song from the p U crew.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 5: Oh I have to return? Well, it's true, but I
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: have to return from practice.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 6: Right, we'll figure it out.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: And too, I don't know about.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: That to Paul, can I get in Elijah vera tucka
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: one time? The first time you said it, I couldn't
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: control my laughter because of how naturally it's slipped out.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 6: It's a tough name for me, and it definitely elicits
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 6: the Boston.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: Can you get more and accent the more beverages you consume,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: because that's.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, that really yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: get loose.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all of a sudden, all of a sudden.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, from like a towny like put
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 5: a couple of what happens.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: Have we ever seen Evan with a little bit uh
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: under you know under.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: The mean yes, morell has he's nodding, yeah, I mean
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 6: not as much as the uper Germany the travel party
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: that was. I'm sure they've seen other sides of it.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 6: I heard stories about Evan in Germany, but I don't
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: I don't know how.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 5: Much those stories are dead and gone. We don't need
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: to repeat the off scooter.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: I think I don't know a lot.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 5: Card I prove it.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, did you fall off the scooter because you had
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: been drinking?
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 8: Probably he was on the school because of the driver
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 8: had been drinking.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: He wasn't the driver now.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 5: At first, but I got on that I think I
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 5: don't even remember thought it was. All I know is
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: is that what is that? Yadic drinking some sort of
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: German hard alcohol that none of us had any idea
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: what it was or what it was called, and like
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: he could, we were all just like what is this?
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 5: And he was like, just trust me, just trust me.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: Twenty minutes hour, I'm on a scooter going through Frankfurt
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, how did I get here?
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: Who? Now? To end with a serious question, Since we've
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: given up on a twenty twenty eight first to acquire
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: A J. Brown, there's been talk about recouping that pick
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: in the trade. What player could you see, guys see
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: that might realistically be traded to get twenty twenty eight
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: first return? Well, Gonzo, but he says, so no Gonzales.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if anybody else. I mean, because
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: if you traded like Milton Williams or something, maybe, I.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 6: Mean, the the things that you could trade to get
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 6: a first round pick, you don't want to trade, Drake.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: Probably get it. I would probably get a first round.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: I want to trade Drake for three first round.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: Adam in New.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: York City says, I love hearing Paul site stats. Now, Evan,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: will you please give a take a two based on
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: your gut that has no statistical evidence.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: There you go. Wow.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 6: So Evan would argue that I was not actually spouting
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 6: stats because I was doing actual numbers that everybody, everybody
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 6: is well versed in, whereas you know, we have like
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 6: a dot and you.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: Know, E p A.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: But it's a good way to sum up there's only
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 6: one ball and you've got receivers, and you know there's
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 6: everybody's got.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: To get it. I would do it, you know, with
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: target share target share because that takes how many past
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: attempts Fred's thing past, how many times they attempt to pass,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: and divides it by how many targets because each team
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: attempts a different amount of passes, so it's to make
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 5: it all equal.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: Boom.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 6: But I was just sort of going apples to apples
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: and just talking about you know, and again I was
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 6: looking at this in relation to Keisha on Booty because
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 6: I had one listener on Tuesday sort of was making
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 6: the point like, well, why can't Boody do what Alec
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 6: Pierce did, and you know he only had forty seven
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: catches and he signed one hundred plus million dollar contract
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 6: and I was like, he also had a thousand yards, right,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 6: Like it was twenty more catches but for five hundred
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 6: more yards. Like that's a huge difference between Booty's year
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 6: last year and Pierce's. And yeah, you could make an
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 6: argument that Pierce was third or fourth on the hierarchy
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 6: for the Colts.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: In terms of targets.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 6: But look at the production and I would say that
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 6: if Kaishan Boody somehow in twenty twenty five is able
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 6: twenty six rather is able to get one thousand yards,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 6: he's going to put himself in line for a big payday.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 6: He will because people will look at that and say
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 6: all he needed was more opportunity. And then when he
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 6: got it, he showed you that it was not a
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 6: fluke that he's making those big plays. He was capable
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 6: of making more of them if he gave him the opportunity.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 6: I just don't think he gets those opportunities in New England,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 6: and I think he thinks the same way. And that's
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 6: why Adam Schefter had that comment about him, He's seeking
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 6: a trade.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: Yep Zach from Cincy. Zach's from Zincy. I know the
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: Giants have been active at wide receivers, so I'm not
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: sure how much they could use someone like Booty.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: But if Thibodeaux is available.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: Is there any world where there could be a trade
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: involving those players and maybe Day three picks. Seems like
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: all the recent Super Bowl champions.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: Have had good depth at edge.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah. We did a little bit this yesterday on Catch
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 5: I right now, at least if you believe what the reporting,
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 5: it sounds like the expectation would be that Thibadeau would
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: move for like a fourth round pick, maybe even a
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: third round pick if you want to win the bid.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 5: You know, Jalen Phillips went for a third round pick
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: at the deadline last year, so somewhere in that range.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: I don't think Kijon Booty's value is anything close to
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: a third round pick. Maybe you know, so I think you're.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: Going Booty and a Day three pick.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: Good boot Could Booty and a fourth or Booty and
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: a fifth be better than just a third.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 6: And the Giant we're looking for a Day two pick,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 6: not a Day three pick. But if you add Booty,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 6: maybe they take a Day three pick.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they signed guys off the street like
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: they signed Odell, they signed Juju Smith Schuster in the
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: year twenty twenty six. Like I I don't know that
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 5: that's going to deter them if they think Kishon Booty
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 5: is a contributing player. Signing Odell Beckham in twenty twenty six,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to make them say we
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 5: don't need Kayshaun Bouti anymore. You know, they sound like
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: they're worried about neighbors Is knee, and based off the
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 5: softball game that he played in the other week for
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: the same kind of deal as Drake May had with
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 5: the Patriots, he wasn't moving too well. So I think
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: that they're a little bit concerned about not only his
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 5: knee long term, but also like when he's going to
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: be back this season, you know, with that injury.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: So maybe they would be Yeah, Dan and Virginia in
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: Michigan on Tuesday, Fred asked for a sponsor for the
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 3: segment what Caught My Eye, at which point Paul noted
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: that Mike had been watching one certain player all through practice.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: Given Mike's infamous reaction to a large running back that
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: caught his eye, perhaps the segment sponsor could be viagra
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: or farmer Henry's.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 5: Eggplants are the same thing.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: If Christian in La is so determined to be mad
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: about the Patriots not broadcasting their trade moves, here are
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: some other things.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: He could be mad about.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: The stadium groundskeepers not looking for a four leaf clover,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: the equipment guys not exploring the use of pastels for
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: the Patriots uniform to let, stadium security not hunting down Bigfoot,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: and that sloth from the Goonies who stole Christian's catchphrase
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: forty one years ago.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: So I was thinking, it's Evan last night.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 6: You know that Pastel's by that Pastel's comment, you know,
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 6: and you're kind of resonated watching the Knicks Spurs NBA
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 6: playoff game.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: I could just imagine how mad Evan was watching. Did happen?
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: You didn't see it?
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 6: Now, well, I look at him like ball they had
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 6: every other section was in a different sort of pastel
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 6: T shirt into different kind of look.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 5: Oh God, I trust me. I have already complained about
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 5: it off the air, got on the air, but apparently
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: there's some sort of It's it's like a festival that's
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 5: down in San Antonio around this around this time of year.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: By Southwest. I know what it's as.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know what it is called, but it's a
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 5: apparently what the wide shirts are, the colors that they
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 5: are are. Really it's like a connection to the festival
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 5: that goes on. It's kind of like the Red Sox
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 5: like marathon jerseys, you know, like where there's a connection.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 5: So I I, you know, people are getting finger wagged
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 5: for not understanding the culture of San Antonio. Okay, but
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 5: the one thing that I was a little bit disappointed
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 5: with with San Antonio last night was like you could
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 5: audibly hear the Knicks fans cheering for the Knicks down
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 5: the stretch last night of that game, and I was like,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 5: this is supposed to be like a small market, you know,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: this is like our team, our city type of team, right,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 5: and they there was at least twenty five percent Knicks
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 5: fans there, and I was pretty surprised by that. Interesting
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 5: in New York, they're making a lot a lot of
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: money to spend and it wasn't just Ben Stellar and
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 5: Timothy Shallomey like there was.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: There was fans some San Antonio fans probably made a
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: lot of money selling their tickets.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: Disappointing, Yeah, it was Nick in North Dakota. Happy Birthday.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: Paul my son's birthday is tomorrow and he shares it
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: with mister Kraft.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: Mister crafts uh birthday is tomorrow.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: I wasn't invited to the party, No welcome to the party.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: My question is in regards to the Patriots heading back
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: to Germany this season to play the Lions. With all
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: the international games added the past few seasons, where would
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: everyone's dream destination be for the Patriots to play?
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: And you can't answer Foxboro at one pm. I'm allay,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: that's a good one. Actually be on the road at
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: one point.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: Where would your dream place to play for the page?
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: I mean Hawaii.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 3: We were talking about Hawaii earlier, as long as I
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: can stay a week, Like you don't want to just
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: go in and leave.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: I like to play a game in Hawaii. That's a
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: good one.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 5: I honestly don't have one because like, sorry, but Foxborough
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 5: or at one pm is what we want. I don't
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 5: really like, you know, the long trips too much. Yeah,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 5: so it's hard to say for us, like right, yeah,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: we're not fans going to the game and enjoy.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: What would make it worth the long trip?
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 5: I now that they now that they're going to Spain.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 5: I think it's like Barcelona sounds really cool.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that does sound cool.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: Spain.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: I would do Spain.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to think of a place that
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: I hadn't been.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 6: I didn't even dare think of Australia because I know
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 6: you would yell at me for that.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: They got nothing for us.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 8: Unfiltered Tokyo would be amazing.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: Oh god, too far. But I don't have a huge
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: desire to.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 5: There's just a lot of you know, it's not it's
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 5: not a vacation, and then it's in the middle of
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 5: the season. Then we have to come back and then
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 5: you know, turn around and do it again, and it
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 5: sounds like me.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: Then you got to click on it.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 6: Click on that Mexico City game, you know whatever it
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 6: was ten years ago.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: It was interesting. I did not make that. You know,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: we've stayed.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: Mexico City is a dangerous place, but we stayed in
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: what would be they're considered they're like Beverly Hills Roadale
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: Drive area, you know. So it was nice within that air,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: but the minute you go out, you have to be
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: you know, escorted by guys with machine guns and trucks
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: and helicopters. I'm not kidding you. So in that way,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: it was kind of weird. It's a good experience overall, Yeah.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 6: You know, I think, I mean, I've never been to
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 6: an international game. I would just it would be interesting
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 6: to me how the fan vibe is different, you know,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 6: from the pregame to just how they react to things.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: You know, it was.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: Interesting because like, the Jaguars played so much in London
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 5: that they they do have maybe some adopted fans over
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 5: there at this point that uh, you know, that felt
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 5: more like a a Jaguars home game then let's say
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: the Patriots game in Frankfurt felt like a Patriots home
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 5: game because of just the sort of the way the
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 5: stadium set up and all the Jaguars stuff and all that.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 5: The Frankfurt game I felt felt more like this is
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 5: we're truly in a neutral site here, whereas the London
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 5: game they may be a little bit more used to
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 5: having the Jaguars over there. I would say on the
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 5: list now of places that they have like Barcelona and
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 5: Spain would be I would I guess Madrid this year, right,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 5: not Barcelona, But either way.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: You know what would be kind of cool is going
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: like to Dubai and playing there, because like that place
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: is wild. Like they have like seven star hotels, you know,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: and if you could stay in one of those, and
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: they'd probably build like a stadium just for this and everything,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: you know, the outrageous money they have there, it might.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: Be cool to like check that place out.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, last year's well, now it would.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 5: Schedule was perfect all basically Eastern time zone short flights
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 5: this year. That's what let's stick to that.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 3: Let's see Cameron or no Tristan from Alabama? Is there
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: any chance we can get both Deuce and Evans practice
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: tracks on vinyl along with some bonus blooper clips, maybe
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: yl to get the B side.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 5: Track I don't get it your song?
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, I got to release it EP, you know.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: Bradley says I just saw Fitzy this morning tweet that
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: number eight may be occupied very soon. Is there any
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 3: reporting of interest you've seen in digs after they signed
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: Brown or is he being a weirdo FITSI I don't know,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think Fitzy's being a weirdo. I think
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 6: there's been a little bit of a ground swell the
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 6: last couple of days. I don't know if it's rooted
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 6: in anything real, but people have talked about it a
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 6: little bit locally.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Nixon, Connecticut on the marks in Connecticut.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: What's up?
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: Mark?
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: Oh? Mark?
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  Speaker 20: Hey guys, how you doing.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: Goodday, Bud, Thank you.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 11: You're welcome.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 4: An.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 20: I meant to give you a jingle yeah today because
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 20: I wanted to ask you about the tight end position
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 20: right now with Julian Hill going down for the season.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 20: This kid Tanner looks like a big muscular kid that
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 20: can move some people around. Was he undrafted?
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 20: Do you think he's got a shot to take over
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 20: that that role?
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 7: Does he got the size to do it?
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 5: He definitely has the size. Yeah, But he to me
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 5: is he's like a sixth offensive lineman like Julian Hill.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 5: I think was a little bit more athletic and could
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 5: you a little bit more blocking on the move and
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 5: in space, whereas Tanner Arkin is a true like in
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 5: line hand in the dirt, like almost like a who
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 5: Man type.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 6: You know where sixty two?
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So different different skill sets, like they get it
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: done in a different way. But if you were looking
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 5: for that other tight end, that third guy to be
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: like a true blocker, then he would be my favorite
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 5: right now out of that group. You know him to
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 5: pre Westover. But he's a like I said, he's he's
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 5: a different kind of cat than Julian.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 20: Yeah, he can move people.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Jillian Hill is more you know, he's more of
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 5: like a move piece, like the guy that could get
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 5: out in space. And I was really excited about what
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 5: Julian Hill was going to bring to the table. That
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: injury is kind of a bummer.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks Mark.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 6: It's kind of like losing the fullback last year. I mean,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 6: not that he was that player, but yeah, I mean
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 6: luckily they still have Gilliam.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: But yeah, David in South Carolina rights. In an alternate universe,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 3: where could you change? Where would you change the outcomes
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: of past Patriots Super Bowls? Would you lose two thousand
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: and four against the Eagles if it meant you won
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: twenty seventeen against the Eagles, which back to back would
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: be more important? Lose twenty sixteen against the Falcons if
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: it meant you won two thousand and seven against the Giants,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: greatest comeback first the greatest season. Or lose twenty fourteen
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: against the Seahawks if it meant you won twenty twenty
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: five against the Seahawks. No, I think so, okay, so
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: the first one lose oh four and win seventeen.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 6: No, so if you win seventeen, that gives you three
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 6: in a row sixteen, seventeen, eighteen.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd take that. I don't. But then you don't
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: have a dynasty. Yeah, it really screws up the early dynas.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: No one's ever done three in a row.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: No, that's true, but you'd have to wait all that
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: time to get there.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, that's a good one.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: Lose sixteen against the Falcons, which, of course.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: Is I do that huge? I definitely if it.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: Meant you get the perfect season, I would take any
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: of them for a perfect season.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: And then lose fourteen against the Seahawks, but you beat
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: them last year.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: No, I don't.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 6: The fourteen is one of my favorites, so I don't.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 6: I don't think I could treat it.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 5: You don't have the Malcolm Butler interception, you know, like.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's worth a discussion. But I think I agree
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 6: with the first, the first Seattle one, because yeah, I
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 6: don't want to get into it, but I think people
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 6: would still say lucky to get there, you know, bow
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 6: Nick's got hurt and the easy schedule like people would mocket, yeah,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 6: you know, and the other one, what are you going
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 6: to say? It's two of the best teams in football
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 6: went toe to toe and maybe.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 5: Two of the best teams in football history like that.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 5: The talent on the field in that twenty fourteen Super
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 5: Bowl is.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: Tough to be about that, But yeah, the good teams.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 6: I think those two I think, like Bizarro Fred and
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 6: this show, we had to point out all the things
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 6: that aren't as good as you think they are.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 21: Multiple teams in football history easily, like easily, Yeah, I
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 21: think the thirteen Seahawks that won the Super Bowl and
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 21: then came back with basically the same team in fourteen,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 21: and then the Patriots and that.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 3: I think that's your youth talking. But anyway, it was
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: fifteen years ago.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 5: It wasn't like it was like dismissed your youth talking
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 5: over a decade.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: Child speaking of youth, But dar your guy, my guy
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: was we're talking about Gonzo and you know, getting his
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: deal done. But Darn's like, I'm not so sure I
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: want to do that. He thinks that his performance in
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl was overrated, and he's not so sure
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 3: he wants to sign him to make money. That's what
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 3: he said.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: Is he just being a contrarian or the people that
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: have talked.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 5: About I think that's his youth showing.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 6: Oh I like the shot. I would just fall back
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 6: in the argument I made tuesday. I think if you
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 6: want to be a draft and developed team, you drafted
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 6: this guy, You've developed into one of you know, at
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 6: worst five best players at his position. I think it's
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 6: an important position. I think I've heard a lot of
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 6: stuff coming out now that well, corners on is important.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 6: The further away from the ball you are, the less
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 6: of I don't buy any of that. I think the
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 6: value of a shutdown corner to me, it only comes
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 6: down to whether or not you think he is that good,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 6: and if you do, then you have to resign him.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 6: If you don't, then let him go.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 5: See, I feel like this is a good philosophical discussion
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 5: of draft and developed and what does that exactly mean?
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 5: Because you could make the argument that drafting and developing
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 5: means once that player hits that second contract, you're extending
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 5: those players and keeping those players. Or you could make
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 5: the argument that you go back into the draft and
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 5: you just draft a new Christian Gonzales and you don't
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 5: have to pay this Christian Zalees.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: That's what Belichick would do. But which one's drafting, which one?
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: Which one is draft and development?
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 6: I would say draft and developed, as you you you
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 6: you keep your retain Yeah, that's my I totally understand
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 6: what is distraction develop and because I.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: Feel constantly cycle through them.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 5: Right because like I've seen, you're not going to hit
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 5: when we're talking about a receiver with Kaishan Boody, like
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 5: they drafted Kyle Williams. So a draft developed team probably
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 5: wouldn't over extend to keep kaish On Booty. It would
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 5: rely on it's drafting and it's scouting and its ability
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 5: to evaluate talent and keep Kyle Williams.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: I understand that.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 6: I just think that's an imperfect comparison because Kaishon Booty
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 6: is not Christian Gonzales.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 5: Wide receivers, sure, but like for example, just to be
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: more apples to apples.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 6: Like Marcella's dial, I don't need to retain him. That's
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 6: the Kishn Booty comparison. Like a late round pick at
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 6: that position.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 5: So the Vikings traded Stefan Diggs and drafted Justin Jefferson.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: So they drafted Stefan Diggs, they developed Stefan Diggs, they
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 5: traded him for a first round pick, earned that first
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: round pick in Stefant into Justin Jefferson. Is that Are
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 5: they a draft and developed team or did they not
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 5: do the op you know what I mean?
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 6: I would say that that's the opposite of draft and develop,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 6: And I say that they made the best of a
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 6: you know, an imperfect situation. You had a guy that
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 6: was really good for you and you decided you didn't
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 6: want to continue, and just so happened that you got
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 6: a guy that was even better in Jefferson.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: Man, that's good drafting.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 6: I just don't want to hear the guys that tell
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 6: me how hard it is to draft and then say
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 6: that that's my philosophy. Is that, like, I don't care
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 6: how good Stefan Diggs is, I'm just gonna let him
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 6: go because I'm just going to draft the next guy
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 6: because you tell me how hard it is every year.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 6: It's an imperfect science and no one gets them right
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 6: all the time. So if if that's your plan, then
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 6: you're gonna lose. Yeah, I think it might be positions
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 6: specific a little bit too, like you know what I mean,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 6: I because I I think you have to make choices
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 6: of what positions you really want to value. And you know,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 6: even if you develop everybody, you can't keep everybody. And
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 6: maybe there are times like.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: An elite player like Christian tell everybody. I get that, it's.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 6: Great, but if you have you know, you drafted and
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 6: developed a very solid just let's say a guard, you know,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 6: and I couldn't. I can't fault the team for saying,
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 6: you know what, we're going to reallocate those resources. And yeah,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 6: it's a little iffy trying to get a guard in
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 6: the draft, but not like trying to go back and
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 6: get another elite one. To me, Mike, and when you
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 6: getting retained made sense, Like you drafted him, you know,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 6: a Day three pick. He turned out to be a
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 6: good player for you, You retained him and you got
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 6: three more Well, this will be the third more additional
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 6: season that you got from him. I think that's a
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 6: good example of draft and developing. But that doesn't mean
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 6: I want to just maintain every guy because I drafted him.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 6: I have to keep every one of these guys like
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 6: Kayshaun Booty is a good case study that have and
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 6: brought up.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: He's been good for you.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 6: That's you've certainly gotten good value out of a sixth
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 6: round pick. I would say to Mario Douglas as well
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 6: now as sixth round picks, though that's good value. I
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 6: don't need to retain both of those guys. I don't
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 6: need to retain either one of them if I feel
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 6: like I have better guys. Yeah, but you acknowledge that
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 6: as an organization, like organization, we haven't drafted this position. Well,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 6: we've had a bad track record, but we've had a
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 6: good track record with this Does that come to influence
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: What I mean?
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 6: Because I still feel like it's kind of a crapshoot,
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 6: Like just because you haven't hit on the wide receiver forever,
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 6: it's like it's still you still might. But I never
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 6: operate under under the premise that I'm not going to
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 6: get a good one at that position. Because I haven't
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 6: gotten a good one at that position, I have to
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 6: think that one's going.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: To be the same.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 5: Regime changes and everything I just did. My bigger thing
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 5: with Gonzalez is not that they're gonna not retain Gonzales,
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 5: but at some point and Elliott Wolf talked about this
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 5: with Jory Epsky and Yahoo's Sports. So like Drake May's
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 5: contracts coming, Christian Gonzalez's contracts coming, Like there's gonna be
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 5: guys that you can't keep them all and you can't
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 5: pay everybody. So I'm not worried about them moving on
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 5: from Gonzales, but if they're going to pay Gonzalez and
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 5: they're going to have aj Brown on the team, and
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 5: then Drake May's extensions coming, like where's the money going out?
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 5: Because the money is right now, the money looks like
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 5: it's only going one way and it's in. At some point,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 5: there's going to have to be some money out, and
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 5: who are those guys that eventually the money's going out?
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 6: That person, by the way, you were saying how everybody
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 6: thinks that they overpaid, Yeah, I couldn't believe that that's
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 6: all that the Eagles got for him, So not everybody
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 6: thinks that they overpaid.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 3: A few emails I want to just get to that
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 3: caught my eye as we get to the end of
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: the show, Rhet writes, And we were talking earlier about
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 3: how all these wide receivers, especially if they did bring
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 3: back digs, would affect.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: The running game.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: Rhett says, I think Vrabel said run the ball more effectively,
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: not run more.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: With all the wide receiving QB. Yeah, that is correct that.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: With all the wide receiver and QB talent, they should
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: not be running the ball more than throwing unless they're
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 3: playing with a big lead.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: I never said they would they wanted to run the ball.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: I was not saying it did. He's not saying, but just.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 6: Saying, I think that they want to run the ball more.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 6: He's right the quote I might have said it. The
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 6: quote that Rabel had was he wants to run more.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 6: I might I think if you do run it more consistently,
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 6: it's going to lead to more attempts.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: I might have said.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: They got very conservative in the players, and they don't
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: need to play scared.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: They've got the talent. Now let it rip. They weren't
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: conservative in the playoffs. Disagree with the whole premise.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 3: Eddie in La, I know, I didn't know Timothy Shallome
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 3: was at the game. All I saw was young Freddie
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: about that. Now he's too skinny. I wasn't skinny.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: I know this is all just talk.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 3: But with trading, either Thibodeaux or Sweat ruined the Akus project.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 3: They feel that trade right now would mean he'll be
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 3: sitting this year, so let's worry about that if it happened.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 5: I think all these teams, the good ones, are rotating
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 5: these guys a lot like Seattle did.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: I couldn't even tell you the names of the guys.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: Yea in l on Star Wars. I believe that George
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 3: Lucas has said that the original plans for the sequels seven,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 3: eight to nine we're going to center around Luke searching
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: for his sister. So Mike is certainly correct there. Vader,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 3: on the other hand, I think was always Luke's father.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: It's possible. It's possible.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 3: Well, there were books written in Star Wars.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 5: There's a yeah everything, so yeah.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 6: I do think when Obi Wan explains it to Luke
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 6: in the original Star Wars, he does seem like he's
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  Speaker 6: kind of lying to him a little bit, like there
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  Speaker 6: does seem some pauses, like he's delicately crafting this story.
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  Speaker 6: So I do think that speaks to maybe it was
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  Speaker 6: already in there.
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  Speaker 3: But I think in every one of these serials you
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  Speaker 3: have to have some no, you have to have some
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  Speaker 3: mechanism where somebody is somebody's.
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  Speaker 5: Parents, you know, Ray's grandfather is Palpatine.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever, three hours where John Snow finally was and remember yeah,
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  Speaker 3: all right, that's gonna be it for this week's Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: I've made the decision. Next Thursday will be three to five.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, decision made. Emails of come in.
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  Speaker 3: It's a unanimous so all right, so let's one more
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  Speaker 3: time schedule for next week.
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  Speaker 1: Matt Morell.
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  Speaker 3: The floor is yours Tuesday, Patriots, and you gotta.
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  Speaker 1: Turn your mic on, turn mic onf Brad.
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  Speaker 8: Oh this my MIC's on. Your speakers were down?
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 8: Patriots Unfiltered on Tuesday, eleven to one, Catch twenty two
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  Speaker 8: on Wednesday four to six. Patriots Unfiltered on Thursday three
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  Speaker 8: to five.
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  Speaker 3: All right, we'll see you next Tuesday.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks a lot