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The Shining Ones · HOLOSKY PODCAST

• 0:16
  [UNKNOWN]: You
• 1:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to the Holos Guy podcast.
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're your host.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Stephen and Kyle and it's Monday, Holocole So you know what that means you've chosen us to hang out with you to get you through the work week and for that We appreciate it forever grateful forever thankful If you're new here, me and Kyle like to talk a little bit if you're not into that probably just want to fast forward to like I don't know six minute marks him around there
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: usually when we get into the crux of the show.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to listen to us to talk, feel free to hang out.
• 1:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if you're not new here, welcome back, weirdo.
• 1:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're glad to have you.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Kyle's got a, Kyle's got a banger today.
• 1:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's been excited about it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's been, he's been hyping it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Been hyping it the last few weeks.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm stoked.
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm stoked.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's even better because I mean, it's not better because we're recording from our homes because I've got a bit of a head cold.
• 2:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not trying to give it the Steve, but it does make it better because now he has no fucking clue what what it's about because it can't see the title.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it just makes it just hives the suspense of it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: it's good man.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a lot of fun.
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• 2:43
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  [SPEAKER_02]: which is up there and we would just have that kind of energy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we do, we do have that kind of energy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If I had to choose though,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just a whole thing, it's a good time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Grow the audience, grow the cult, eventually me and Kyle's gonna get to a point to where we're gonna do this all the time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We're manifesting it, I'm manifesting it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We're manifesting it, you're manifesting it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna happen.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then you get much more of us in your daily's.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be a good time.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we need to just set up like a weekly meditation time, so everybody meditates at the same time.
• 4:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we do.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just keep sharing it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Just keep putting it out there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If, oh yeah, keep doing that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Also, you can go to where I'm using a podcast.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Your podcaster, if you will, and leave us a five star rating and review.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And we will gladly, gladly show you out.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This week's five-star rating and review comes to us from our friend, Van Meter Vortex.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Van Meter says, thanks.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey guys, thanks for the awesome intuitive episode.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Referring to the episode where you went to the Appalachian Mountains and the Bigfoot exhibit.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I love two counties away, Dawsonville.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Every haul of sky sticker that I put up someone is stolen.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna have to keep an eye out for the green light that you saw.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll write back if I see anything or get any pictures.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Van Meter, that's all you live, you live in a crazy area down there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The blue ridge foothills, that's a, it's like some weird energy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's hot spot for sure.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The energy down there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But that's cool that you're wrapping us wrapping the cold throw in the stickers up.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I did, I granite, I didn't look for any.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like while I was at the Bigfoot Museum, I'm not saying I know, I know there's one in there, I'm not saying I know who put it there, but if you go in the minns bathroom and you go to the very last stall and you look on the side of the wall,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: There might be all those guys digger there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who put it there, that's a mystery.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It is a mystery.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I would shock to see it there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I was taking a piss.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's weird.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of cool when exciting though.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's weird.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It definitely didn't come out of my wallet and onto the wall.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Just put it out there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Feds wasn't me.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that's that is cool.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You live in a cool area.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If you see the green UFO, try to get a picture of it because it just my mind was done a different different trick at that point.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, thanks.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: the love and the five-star rating.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I hope you're back for me with some weirdness.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And to the people stealing his stickers, like he's out here doing the Lord's work, rep in the show, don't do that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't take him down.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, shame on you.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I won't be part of the negative energy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's all good vibes here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's all positive vibes.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, just stop it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Just stop it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I know
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  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, we are back, just like that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And Kyle's about to send it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna send it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited, which sucks that I have a head cold.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna try to zap my energy, so I'm gonna try to push this shit away.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: stole my identity.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: What a way to start the show.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I appreciate that.
• 7:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to the nerds that stole Kyle's identity.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because I haven't been working hard my whole life or anything.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: It took a turn.
• 7:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just wanted to put that out there and eat their fame on you.
• 7:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fucking do better.
• 7:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: We did it from good vibes to just yeah, violence.
• 8:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think I have it squared way.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: However, I can do better.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a pain with a job.
• 8:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a pain when that happens.
• 8:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: It sucks.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a complete unnecessary situation for myself.
• 8:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, do you know me?
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you don't want my identity.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't want any part of it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not that, because it's not good.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Here we are, like somebody cooler.
• 8:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's easy.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you'd think you'd pick somebody with substantial funds, not someone without.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, who am I?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a straight-up buster, so.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It is what it is.
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: But moving on from that negativity.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We had to get that out of our system.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I had to get that out there.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Feeling better now.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Moving on.
• 8:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really excited about this episode.
• 8:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's supposed to be like a mixed bag episode of just weird park Ranger stories that I have found in a book, I read the first story and it compelled me so much that I was kind of honestly looking at more of a disproving thing, because the story just sounds nuts.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to go over the story first, but it sounds crazy.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I start looking into it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: more information on this entity.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's one of my current kind of favorite topics, because it stumbles back into one of my favorite movies ever, predator.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's not here.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a compelling thing.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll go over this story.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: and see what the things from here for it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this story comes from they live in the woods by Ark Ranger Ron Blade, which is kind of a sick ass name.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It is a sick name.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's probably a vampire.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I hope so.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's kind of funny.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even think about that, but I accept
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  [SPEAKER_02]: has been a park ranger in a part of search and rescue for over 30 years, and over those years, he's witnessed things in the woods, which made him begin to collect stories.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And this, this particular story is from Mickey, a five year park ranger, and this, this happened on July 5th, 2021.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if the story is 100% legit, then it is extremely recent.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I tried finding reports on this, and I couldn't, but it doesn't really mean much if this is true, because if this is true, it's definitely something that would get buried.
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that happened a lot.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you're kind of dealing with the park ranger thing.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I kind of feel like there is some cloak and dagger around that organization.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, look at the big dog man case from the LBL where that family essentially got torn apart by a dog man and trying to find like, it's in the lore like everybody knows that about that case, but you can't find anything.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a great point.
• 11:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a great point.
• 11:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a great point.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even think about that, but that is a great point.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So on this day, bright afternoon, Mickey had just finished patrol on his area.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He decided to take a short break.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So he parks his truck next to the little picnic area where this family was having lunch.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He was sitting in this in this truck kind of taking in the day, he said it was just one of those just perfect fucking days.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Temperature was right.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Sun was just right.
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Please rustling birds chirping, you know, just a little bit of a summer breeze or a slight breeze to add off set the sun's warmth.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: But just one of them perfect days, right?
• 12:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's kind of browsing on his phone when I wrongly enough he notices this glimmer of light kind of catches his eye.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And right away in this story, I feel connected here because I have told Steve before and I know I'm probably from the nightjewt or one of our episodes how.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was a middle winter for me.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was working in this rock quarry on the tree side.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it was lunchtime.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it was cold out.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was in the nice warm truck.
• 12:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, well, tell with it, I'm going to take a little nap.
• 12:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I kicked my chair back.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just happened to notice something out of the corner of my eye.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And it looked like a predator like being
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's head was as tall as my, like, to the bottom of the window, like that's where it's chin would be like if I had the wind of down, I could rest it's chin on on my door.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I would put everything to say that I saw a glamour man essentially in that moment.
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I kind of.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: feel connected to what Mickey had just witnessed, you know?
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Could you like, before we get into Mickey's story, could you like see what shape the body was?
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I saw, I saw was the head.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Was it a human?
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was like, yes, yep.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it had like, like if I were to draw it, so I would draw the rough outline of a head and then imagine the glimmers of light that kind of just keep coming in.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you would take that head outline and then shrink it down, put it in a layer, or shrink it down, put it in the layer, like that's how the light.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it was refracted here.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was going to say like fractals fractals.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of, yeah, because I was curious.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like you hear in the big foot community, sometimes about them possibly having like, cloaking capabilities and stuff.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I was wondering like how big it was compared to a human, but it sounds like it sounds like human size.
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it may have just been shorter.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, because it, it's head was even with the.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it would not bring window.
• 14:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting, but it's like whenever I saw it like halfway out of the corner my and then when I turned a full on look at it at a disappeared it's creepy that it was like Was it like checking you out?
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I felt like like it was here and into the window gross weird.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely weird.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, gross But back to make you hear So after seeing this glimmer of light from the corner of his eye he did what most people would do and kind of Look over at to see what it was
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and a glimmer of like to be anything.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It could be a glint from a bottle, a family cell phone, fucking honey bun wrapper, sitting out in the wood somewhere.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, anything, but it catches his attention again.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So he looks over at it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, it's just like the shimmer, a heat wave style.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But it also pulls and flickered just beyond the family's picnic.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like this little boy was sitting there.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: picnic, just kind of playing with his little toy truck.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: When all of a sudden the Ranger witnessed the boy vanish.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The boy disappears in the thin air.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: He immediately gets out of his truck, reacts to it starts yelling to the parents he's panicking.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The parents who are just dumbstruck, they look around and realize the boy's gone.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They start to freak out.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: the parents kind of thought the boy had wanted away.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So, and the, I would assume, make you the park ranger.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I kind of let it go that direction because he's like, I just witnessed him disappear, but I can't exactly just say I witnessed him disappear.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's an impossibility is what it is.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the things where you're questioning yourself, you're questioning what you saw.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So they kind of, they start searching for the boy in the woods.
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: They retrace the steps.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: They investigate the area, looking for any tracks, signs of anything, clues, can't find anything.
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: It starts to go down, red sets in the air, you know, and make he's just like trying to rationalize the entire situation and convince himself that the boy just wanders off.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Looks like Steve is saying it's it's it's in that situation.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's something we would all do.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: We would all be like, there's no possible way.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just witnessed this boy just vanish like a magic.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Magic trick.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you immediately start to rationalize like, oh, 100% did I did I blink for a split seconds and something something grab him did he run to take a piss in the woods like right.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just going to immediately start trying to rationalize it.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, so naturally as this level of progression would happen, they they call in for extra help, including dog teams to help search for the boy.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's out.
• 17:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's out looking for him.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Night finally fully sets in.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: They halt the search until morning, which I was kind of wondering if that's a common thing in those areas.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or if that's kind of out of normal, because I feel like a lot of people would push through the night.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of actors.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when I was big into missing 401 when I was reading up on SAR, like protocols and stuff and it depends on like the weather.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: the terrain.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: If the terrain is dangerous, if it's like mountainous and cliff-sides and stuff, they'll call off night searches because essentially, you've run the risk of losing another person.
• 18:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Getting another person hurt, trying to navigate all that in the evening.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: So they will call off night searches.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or they will call off searches during the night sometimes.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Also, if there's like local people, because usually when there's a child, everybody bands together, they also try to call it off because they don't want like inexperienced people out there, trudging around at night.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because again, you have a scenario where you might have multiple people missing.
• 18:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then that makes sense.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: That actually makes a lot of sense.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I could see that.
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: So at first light, they take out the search again.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he branched, he kind of breaks off from the group.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Those back to the scene in the crime.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's looking back over the ground for any clue that may help them in this search.
• 19:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: He spins around.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he hears rustling from a bush nearby.
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: He spins around kind of halfway, expecting an animal, but also kind of hoping that it's the kid.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Instead, he sees the shimmering again.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just hovering over the edge of this little bush at the edge of the forest.
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Me said as he sat and watched this thing, it was like he was rooted in place.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Even though all of his instincts commanded him to run, they both just kind of stood there and watched each other.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: acknowledging each other's kind of presence, all of a sudden the silence and the situation is broken by the father of the child kind of finding and making the the ranger and being like, hey, I'd be found anything like what's going on and apparently Mickey starts to explain to the
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Even though he knows this is not a great idea, but he's like, I don't know what else to do.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he starts explaining it and as he's kind of going through this more and more people are kind of showing up in the area.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And most people who overheard the conversation kind of hush it, hush it back, you know, and which kind of puts a little bit of dread on the Mickey, but he
• 20:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, I've heard stories like this in the area.
• 20:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're not dealing, you know, this may be crazy, but I've also heard these stories.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: As the days go on, Mickey's having kind of nightmares about the sanity and he comes to a conclusion.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I hats off to him, but he's like, I've gotta go find this thing again.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fear is not going to dictate eye actions any longer.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he breaks away from the search party again and starts to go on the hunt for this shimmering entity.
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he goes back out into the woods and he's like, I got to do this for the family, for the boy, I need to do this.
• 21:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as he's hiking through the forest, he comes to this clearing
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: However, it's not one.
• 21:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a few of them.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he describes him as humanoid figures, but the features were distorted, kind of translucent and ghostly, rippling like water, and they were all unique in their appearance.
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as he's watching, they begin to dance in the middle of the clearing.
• 22:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, as he does, he steps on a fucking twig, of course.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: It snaps, which mind you is exactly what would happen to Stephen, I, in the situation.
• 22:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: But as it twigs snaps, all the figures stop.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they start looking at Mickey.
• 22:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he's like, OK, fuck this, I'm out of here.
• 22:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he takes off.
• 22:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's fair.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bigger starts chasing.
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, they weren't running.
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: They were kind of like gliding across the ground.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they were gliding at a pretty decent rate of speed.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: He says that, you know, one of them in particular had its arms stretched out and it began to promise, like he could hear it in his head, it began to promise like knowledge and understanding.
• 22:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he felt this overwhelming urge to comply and just be like, okay, yeah, I'll stop and hang out and but he's like deep down.
• 23:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I knew that was wrong.
• 23:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I knew that I can't do this.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is bad.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he picks up speed.
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: He runs as fast as he can.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, even even running as fast as I could and I was gaining ground away from him, I could still hear their whispers in my head.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as soon as he breaks out of the woods, he looks back at the tree line and he expects that these things are still on his frame.
• 23:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: However, they're all gone.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing there anymore.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And at this point, Mickey seems to be in a very interesting place mentally, because he's obviously terrified, but at the same time he feels a duty to keep trying to figure out what is going on for the family on the boy.
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's he like, once again kind of hypes himself up and is like, I'm going to figure this out.
• 24:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll go and confront these things again if I have to, which at that point, kind of feel like it's pointless because you've already ran from them, you don't have any clue what they are, how to fight them.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I don't know how that's a good idea.
• 24:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: They know that you know at this point, they exist.
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: They know that you're afraid of them, which is a big, like you're behind eight ball now.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So the kind of the switch gears here, the parallels to the the last week's episode, the Sam the sand down clown episode are so much like with with the weird shimmery glimmery atmosphere like when Sam came out.
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: and some of the beings that were were the others of Sam also had the weird electric shimmer to him.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, the way that he moves like they said Sam moved in a puppet like manner, which could easily be confused with dancing.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like the other dancing ones, almost like when they get into our
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dimension, I fully feel like Sam is a being from a different dimension.
• 25:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like when they get into our dimension, it takes them a while to, I don't know, like a tune to our gravity or tune to our physics or some shit, you know?
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: So like, they're trying to figure it out, takes a second.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's what, like, the parallels between that episode and this episode is getting weird.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to get weird here.
• 25:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Especially the way like, there's more that I'm going to bring up.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: and I guarantee you're going to be like, oh fuck, that makes a lot of sense.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not only in saying him, but in the broad spectrum.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the way the boy just flashed out of reality is the same way that Fay essentially flashed out of reality when she was with her friend.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like she was with Sam granted it's a little different because she was still there.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Her consciousness was not there.
• 26:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, which I mean, there could there could be many different forms of abduction really, you know, I mean, there could be many different forms of abduction really, you know, I mean, there could be many different forms of abduction really, you know, I mean, there could be many different forms of abduction really, you know, I mean, there could be many different forms of abduction really, you know, I mean, I mean, there could be many different forms of abduction, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: But apparently, he had a camera with him.
• 26:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it's like a GoPro or a camera camera.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was a camera camera because he said he did take pictures of these things.
• 26:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: But unfortunately, on his camera, nothing appeared.
• 26:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: They were, they didn't show up at all on the camera.
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So at that point, he's kind of like, I'm fucked.
• 26:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to do.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: No one's going to believe me.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and the hero syndrome kind of seems to run its course.
• 27:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Any, like I said, no matter what he does, nobody's going to believe him and at that point he kind of just loses hope.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: He thinks about talking to the sheriff, but he knows that the sheriff has most likely not going to believe him.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I could reach out to paranormal investigators in the area, but he's like, But then this is probably just going to turn into some campy ghost or bullshit.
• 27:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so he just kind of loses all hope and as far as the account goes, I'm assuming they never did find the kid because this is that's kind of where the story ends is I'm assuming he went back out and tell they called the search.
• 27:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: it does have big missing four one one vibes oh yes the way they talk about it just being like take missing four one one for for what you will i don't buy into a lot of david plight as a stuff
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of his accounts have been disproven, he's been known to like embellish stories and make them weirder than they really are, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he brought a lot of eyes onto something weird going on in national parks, right?
• 28:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 28:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: If one percent of the stories he put out is unexplained, I should still unexplained.
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you hear a lot of accounts of it.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: They, he essentially calls it like a perfect predator.
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: They can take snatch someone out of the forest and note, no, like it has 100% leafality rate, you know, like they can't, yeah.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you hear accounts where people have come back and it is almost like they are in a different dimension.
• 28:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember the case, but I believe I talked about it on here.
• 28:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: The older brother and sister were out, like mushroom hunting or something.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: and they got separated, and the brother, like they were probably in their 30s or 40s, the brother left, and when she was left out there, she said she saw people and heard people and she was afraid of them, so she hid from them.
• 29:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because at first she would yell she would like yell at them, try to get their attention and they just acted like she didn't even exist like she they did not acknowledge or they didn't hear and that puts let put like this innate fear in her to hide from them like they weren't humans essentially.
• 29:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do remember that.
• 29:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I remember you talk about that.
• 29:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's, there's, I don't know, man.
• 29:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: What's the weird?
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it gets weird or dude.
• 29:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is just like the tip.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just the tip.
• 29:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just the tip, buddy.
• 29:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I kind of talked about it on the night shift.
• 29:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: How, as you read the book, it's a little written in more suspenseful and lengthful for, I believe.
• 29:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, I don't know.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: So like I said,
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: After that, I kind of, I'm thinking, I'm like, all right, this does sound a little bit can't be, it does sound a little bit fishy.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to try to look into it and see if I can't find some more evidence on this story.
• 30:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I didn't find anything on that story, but God lead
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: It does seem that these glimmer man predator-like beings do tend to stick to the woods and forests, right?
• 30:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: It does seem to be a common trope.
• 30:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I've heard a few accounts where they're around like a city area, but it still seems to have trees and stuff like that, yeah, right?
• 30:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we're gonna check mark that, trees and shit like that.
• 30:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: because that's all going to come back around in the hunt for the skin walker calm Keller and George nap have an episode where a near invisible creature chases a man before retreating back into the tree line.
• 31:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there's another tree line.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then I stumble onto something that's pretty interesting and maybe a little bit more sinister way of describing this phenomenon
• 31:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna assume that most of the people in the paranormal world also don't know this because I don't, I have probably in all honesty heard one other person talk about these things and I can still be wrong on that, but I'm pretty sure that he has read these as well.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now we enter, which is gonna be the title of the show.
• 31:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: enter the shining ones.
• 31:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty good, right?
• 31:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, say, understand, man.
• 31:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, close, but I'm here.
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm here.
• 32:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm here for the shining ones.
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.
• 32:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 32:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.
• 32:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: So the shining ones from what I gathered, I'm sure it's older, but from what I was able to gather comes from old Celtic and Scottish tradition all the way back to the 17th century.
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: To author, day, the non from early Irish myth, nailed a race of radiant, then my divine beings, who came to Ireland in a mist, they were described as a beautiful, powerful, and luminous.
• 32:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: After the Malaysians, which were ancestors of the Irish people who had defeated, who had defeated them, they retreated into the hills becoming the Ossai, or fairy folk.
• 32:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So the Malaysians beat these radiant semi-divine beings.
• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: They went to war with them, pushed them back into the hills and the forests.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they became the fey.
• 33:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Essentially yes.
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: So in many writings, they were described as tall, luminous, possessing glamour of radiance that could be willder mortals.
• 33:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was also written that it was believed that these very folk dwelt in a parallel world that overlap to ours, which is kind of what you were talking about a Sam earlier.
• 33:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 33:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: They would abduct humans, especially children and those with second sight into their realm.
• 33:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Many of these abductions took place in the woods or hills.
• 33:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some of the traits around this is unsettling.
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes people were returned from being taken and sometimes not.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: which reminds you once again, and we'll hit on it again later, but the 401, right?
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: So sometimes, there is severe time distortion with these abductions.
• 33:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: A night with the shining ones could be years in our life.
• 33:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: In human life.
• 33:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: An interesting take on this was that shining equal limital light.
• 34:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Their brightness wasn't just visual, it was also a symbol of spiritual power
• 34:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: The shining ones eventually were adapted into the occult realm as well.
• 34:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the 19th century, but it gets twisted a little bit, some believe that they were remnant of an ancient advanced race or beings from another dimension, which still kind of lines into the fay world of you ask me.
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because you, that's essentially like,
• 34:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like fairy rings and shit.
• 34:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 34:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: People equate them to portals.
• 34:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: You step into fairy ring and you disappear, which exactly is it's not that far of a contrast to think that you step into a different dimension.
• 34:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, you're absolutely right.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think it's the same label.
• 34:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can think it's just one of them things were a different group put a different label on it essentially.
• 34:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Neil Pagan and New Age readings reinterpret them as inner-dimensional beings of light that still make contact in forests and wild places.
• 35:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, it's interesting is that some of the sensory anomalies are noted as well, which we've all heard, and me and Steve have talked about it countless fucking times.
• 35:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: sensory anomalies that in silence drains lights loss of directional sense things like that not to mention these these same things pop up and modern cases that like I said me and Steve have talked about also in all the old fairy folklore of people be
• 35:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: which comes, I didn't quite understand what a liminal spot is, so I looked into it.
• 35:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: It comes from the Latin word, lemon meaning threshold.
• 35:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is a place or moment that exists on the boundary between two states.
• 35:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: World or categories.
• 35:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: In these tales, liminal spots are dangerous and powerful thresholds where our world overlaps with another world.
• 36:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some way, okay.
• 36:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: So what are some examples of liminal spots?
• 36:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: The edge of a forest, or trees meet open land.
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Riverbanks, lake shores, caves, ravines, allohills.
• 36:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: You also have constructed boundaries as well.
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: They can even, they can even venture out into times of day.
• 36:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Twilight, midnight, dawn, seasonal traditions.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think of like,
• 36:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like something non-physical being a liminal space, like specific time frames.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, that's crazy.
• 36:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
• 36:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy, but it kind of makes sense as far as like, rituals and shit go.
• 36:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you think about it.
• 36:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like the in-between, like the in-between daylight and darkness is essentially like a thinning of a veil, you know?
• 36:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what the belief system is, is that all these places are thin places,
• 37:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: where the veil is weaker.
• 37:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: So weird.
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: It gives me goosebumps.
• 37:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy to think about.
• 37:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and then Steve kind of already hit on it, but Sam, the sand down cloud connection, you know, there's time, distortion, shimmering creatures, park-and-woods, meetings, and shit like that, liminal spaces.
• 37:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of connections there.
• 37:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's weird.
• 37:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like the sensory, the sensory thing,
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: you hear in a lot of the cases, too, like the playing of flutes out in the forest to lure people in, the crying of a baby, something calling your name, something mimicking someone you know, or someone you love, like your mother calling your name in the forest.
• 37:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's very, that's very like, fay trickster kind of stuff there.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, yep, yep.
• 37:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: it's crazy.
• 37:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was able to find some more stories, some old, some new kind of went all over the board with it.
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And this is cool.
• 38:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is this is a gangster.
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I found a super
• 38:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 38:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sounds creepy.
• 38:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, it's it's crazy.
• 38:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So this is like a old fucking story.
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Which are the I love when you can you can take stuff links back in history that lead up to things occurring now.
• 38:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's 100% what this is.
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So the white procession.
• 38:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's typically seen at twilight or moonlit nights along shorelines.
• 38:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now keep in mind, this is from the old, more prominent near old burial grounds and title inlets.
• 38:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Islanders say beings walk in a single file line, glowing white or silver.
• 38:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was a fisherman named Dom Nall, and he was returning from his boat when he saw a line of tall shining figures moving slowly across the sand toward the sea.
• 39:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: All of these beings were draped and white, almost translucent, like they were cloaked in light.
• 39:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: He felt a great weakness of the knees and irresistible urge to follow them.
• 39:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Almost like he was put into a trance, he actually begins walking towards them.
• 39:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: He got a decent look at their faces, he said.
• 39:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: He describes them as human, but two pale and two perfect, there were no flaws.
• 39:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: He described them like they were carved from pearl.
• 39:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: One of the figures turns to him and speaks inside his mind, calling him to join them.
• 39:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oddly, the thing that saves him was another fisherman stating that he's sold, like this fisherman, because he noticed Dom, Dom, all, whatever the fuck his name was, walking toward the water like he was drunk, so his other fisherman is like, yo dude, like, hey, what are you doing?
• 40:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't wander out into the ocean, idiot, especially while being boozed up.
• 40:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: What ends up, Dom Nau ends up collapsing and stating that he had almost stepped into a doorway under the water.
• 40:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it was said that most people who ended up following the white procession are never seen again.
• 40:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some have been reported to show up, drowned, after following the white procession.
• 40:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: But most people say they're never seeing again, elders say that these are not ghosts.
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: They are host of the Sith or the Shining ones.
• 40:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: These Shining ones are able to walk their path between worlds.
• 40:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now I found another account from broad more seven falls, which is in the Cheyenne Mountain Canyon of South Colorado Springs.
• 41:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: This happens in 2012.
• 41:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is interesting the white procession because it also holds like a lot of similarities to the lore of like sirens and mermaids, you know, calling people out to the water and and essentially them never coming back or them drowning like it's.
• 41:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: We also heard it in that, in the case I did about the woman from Thailand or something where they have, they have essentially the goddess of the water that also calls people in, which is, it's weird how these things just overlap and overlap.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what's crazy is I found accounts modern day accounts of the white procession that aren't by the water.
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: But they are housed in a very specific area.
• 41:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll get to that in a minute.
• 41:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: But, okay, okay.
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: This particular one is another glimmer man-siding.
• 42:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I found the full story, which is pretty good.
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's happened around 2012.
• 42:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: So relatively recent, there was a dude who's contracted to guard, to do guard work at a tourist location called Broadmore Seven Falls.
• 42:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: On several occasions while on the night shift, he would feel like he's going to get attacked by an animal or human because he would hear these strange noises like hissing or groaning sounds.
• 42:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes he would see glowing red or white eyes.
• 42:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: No matter the color though, these eyes were always bigger than any wildlife eyes in the area.
• 42:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: He would always see them behind bushes and tree canopies.
• 42:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: But what really fucked him up was he saw shimmering humanoid shapes.
• 42:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the way he described him was like predator.
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was how he described him.
• 42:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, they look like predator.
• 42:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, even though I had a pistol on me, I still felt helpless when I saw these things.
• 43:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I watched this thing crawl across the asphalt
• 43:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: It stood straight up and extended a long arm towards me and when I shifted my way to get a better look at it, he's like, I saw a glowing reddish eyes.
• 43:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then the entity jumped to a tree that was no less than 20 feet away, which creates a loud crash and that disappears back into the park.
• 43:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, what's fucked up though is for what 10 years later,
• 43:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: being a co-worker are catching up like he's done with this place co-workers don't that place.
• 43:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're kind of rekindling or whatever, you know, meeting up for lunch and they're sitting now and talking and the co-worker is like, hey, uh, did you ever see from us out there?
• 44:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did you ever see the predator beings while you were working there?
• 44:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just bringing it up, you know, like, yeah, yeah, different almost good killed by the predators.
• 44:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he said the coworker told him about his experiences, but unfortunately, they weren't.
• 44:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't elaborate on those, so I don't have those stories.
• 44:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: But there is a connection there between both the workers seeing these shimmering beings in the park.
• 44:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the way he described it, just crawling across the asphalt,
• 44:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just picture in that in my head.
• 44:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's gross.
• 44:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: It gives me the, like, the HBGBs.
• 44:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 44:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what's great, like, it's so stupid.
• 44:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I found, like, that I can't remember the year, the white procession was, but I've found, so I found like, 2022, 2012, I found some old Cherokee legends.
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Speaking about the, they call them the doony high.
• 45:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry if I mispronounce that, but it means to them it meant mortals.
• 45:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, and it seems to be kind of a mixed bag when you look into the doony high.
• 45:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: These mortals were spirit beings that lived under mountains.
• 45:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: We sometimes were visible as human
• 45:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of how the Cherokee looked at him, apparently, right?
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I found a story, how one night the Cherokee people had a night dance.
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes when these night dances took place, the Nudy High would show up and mingle with the people.
• 45:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was reported that they looked relatively normal, men and women attractive and graceful, well dressed.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: They mingled with the people like they were, they were kin.
• 45:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: As Dawn came, the dance ends, and a group of Cherokee women, like everybody's kind of walking, and there was a group of Cherokee women, and the new and high were walking with these women.
• 46:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, as these people, as these women got close to the, uh, whatever was that, the Ford River, I can't remember what, uh,
• 46:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: the river forward, where the water ran shallow enough for people to walk across.
• 46:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: They said, as soon as they cross that threshold, the women disappeared, like they walked into a different dimension, they walked through that liminal space between the water and land.
• 46:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they instantly disappeared, like witnesses who saw it, they saw them.
• 46:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: As soon as they crossed that boundary, they disappeared.
• 46:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: None of the women were ever seen again.
• 46:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: People in the village mourned because they lost loved ones, you know.
• 47:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the Cherokee people said that the women were abducted to go live under the mountains and the invisible towns of the Immortals.
• 47:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Which is crazy because like an old faylor, you hear about them being under the hills.
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the end there's a lot of Native American lore about mountains that open up and take people.
• 47:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's true.
• 47:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's true.
• 47:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're right.
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I forgot about that.
• 47:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
• 47:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Which is wild.
• 47:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
• 47:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, the Cherokee, I guess they do have legends that say sometimes the taken would return, but no matter what they would return looking the exact same as when they left.
• 47:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there's a time distortion right there that we've discussed as of earlier.
• 47:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, like I said, in this case, they never did return.
• 47:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I also read some short reports on people in Eastern Kentucky and West Virginia spotting these beings as well.
• 48:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hunters have seen tall, human-like shapes glowing faintly, standing between ridges and tree lines.
• 48:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes these things are in small groups.
• 48:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: People when they see these things, they experience a trans-like pool, elders in the area
• 48:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't follow him because if you do, you're probably not going to come back.
• 48:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I saw reports from Southern Appalach, Appalachians that described the the white procession, which is what I was telling you, you know, and there's the one for see now you have it in the old mountains of the white procession where people are seeing the white processions through the mountains at night.
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Locals report seeing a line of going people at night walking single file line along old trails, and they make no noise at all.
• 49:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's weird because like somebody that doesn't, that isn't privy to the, to the lore would see that.
• 49:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, what, you would just think it was a ghost, right?
• 49:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: You would think that they were ghosts.
• 49:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: They were spirit when, in actuality, they're very different from ghosts, like, yeah.
• 49:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: which is kind of the way I've been leaning the more I get into like John Kiel and stuff.
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what ghost, I feel like ghosts are very different than what we think.
• 49:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm beginning to see that, I think.
• 49:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: But then again, even if you have the belief that if I pass in my essence comes back,
• 49:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's still, it could fall in either camp essentially, it could be what we call a ghost, but also what we call a ghost might actually be, you know, liminal beings, yeah, whatever these beings are.
• 50:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: The shining ones, yeah, I mean, who just say our essence doesn't turn into the shining one.
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 50:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a clue.
• 50:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 50:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: because it makes you wonder for like our energy passes on to the next realm or whatever.
• 50:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: What's all this residual stuff that's sticking around?
• 50:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like we're supposed to move on and stuff.
• 50:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 50:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's weird.
• 50:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's weird.
• 50:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely weird.
• 50:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: But people in the area of the Appalachians they believe that seeing the white procession, seeing these beings of light is extremely dangerous.
• 50:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: People say that by joining them, you're going to vanish under the hills and never return.
• 50:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then you look at the recent 2000s, glimmer man's sightings where people describe the predator beings.
• 51:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Once again, moving to the trees, but you keep pushing and that evolves into like we've touched on earlier the missing 401 cases, which apparently in some of those have had
• 51:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Witnesses have seen strange lights in the area or people of light in the trees before these vanishings happen.
• 51:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what's interesting is I dig around through all these stories is that we come to kind of a cross road for me.
• 51:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it kind of comes down to a single question because
• 51:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: on the opposite side of a lot of things for kind of a long time, but I've heard people mention the beings of light.
• 52:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, due to my own ignorance admittedly and to the ignorance or feeling narratives of others, I think, and I think Steve would agree.
• 52:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we inherently
• 52:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: beings of light as a positive descriptive phrase, I think that's the way I think it's the way it's been shaped.
• 52:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's exactly what I write.
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I write that we've kind of been programmed to do it like that.
• 52:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, you hear light instead of light and love.
• 52:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, instead of instead of just taking that as what it is, a descriptive phrase.
• 52:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
• 52:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like that kind of dawned on me as I'm writing this like, we always have like a secondary meaning to beings of light.
• 52:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: We look at it like Steve said, love and light, whereas that could just simply be a descriptive, like, I don't have anything.
• 53:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have any other words, then I literally saw a humanoid figure that was glowing.
• 53:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 53:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, so they use being a light and it's immediately, instead of like our illumination, it's like, oh, light, meaning the opposite of dark dark me.
• 53:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, bad light, me.
• 53:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 53:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Good.
• 53:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and I think I think a lot of us I'm I'm I'm to blame as well.
• 53:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of us are at fault of that.
• 53:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't I don't think we look at it like this is just how it's fucking described.
• 53:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
• 53:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I know, and I'm not necessarily trying to throw of them, but like I've listened to Ryan Bletsow talk.
• 53:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I know he's referenced old world might beings like this.
• 53:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: But his is in the context of like, it being love and light and kind of pushing his narrative as family's narrative.
• 53:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I mean, like if you break down the name,
• 54:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: In connotation with like, I don't know if it's translation or not with like the morning star or the bearer of light, yeah, which I mean, it's kind of the opposite of like, is it more of good and bad, you know, yeah, I don't know, yeah, but I just think that I and I know that like Ryan is well read and does his research, I just think that we as people get kind of tied into our own narrative sometimes.
• 54:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because, you know, in the end, the question that I would have are these beings of light, the white procession, the beings of light, the glimmering, the glimmering, the shining ones, are they good or are they bad?
• 54:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And to be honest with you, in the research that I have done, it seems like the shining ones, the shining people, whatever,
• 55:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're indifferent, they don't give a shit.
• 55:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: It seems like they are nothing more than boundary keepers, kind of existing between two world.
• 55:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: In most cases observing them from a distance seems to be okay.
• 55:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: But if you cross their threshold, it can be dangerous.
• 55:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I looked at, you know, the Cherokee people, I looked at
• 55:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Appalachian people, you know, people overseas the only group that has a relatively close connection to the shining ones that says they're cool is the CE five movement.
• 55:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're the only group because some of their their encounters.
• 55:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: uh, mimic, I get really close to the the shining ones and they're the only group that are like, yeah, these are these are good.
• 56:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: These are cool.
• 56:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: These are cool.
• 56:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Other than that, everybody else is in the camp of they're either neutral or they're dangerous.
• 56:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: like they can be both they can be both they can be neutral or dangerous.
• 56:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: It just kind of depends on the circumstance and maybe it should mean well, maybe that's true.
• 56:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they are boundary keepers.
• 56:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe if you cross their lines, you're fucked.
• 56:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 56:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: The only argument I have against that is them, them luring people places, you know, like also true and into the water, luring them into like the hollow hills and stuff like that.
• 56:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's nefarious.
• 56:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: It isn't the fairies, but I think we're that okay, so the counter that.
• 56:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that is a really fucking fair point.
• 56:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think the counter at though is that most people are going to look at that equation and say, but do they do that every time.
• 57:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right, I think I don't think they do.
• 57:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that.
• 57:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: there are going to be states where you see the shining ones or the the white procession and you just see them.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's that.
• 57:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that there will be times where what you just said happens makes me wonder like I guess we'll never know because the people essentially the people to get switched over don't come back.
• 57:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I wonder like what
• 57:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: what differentiates the two what what just seeing it and like what the difference is and just being able to view it or or it seeking you out and like pulling you in.
• 57:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I was thinking about like the first Mickey's encounter where he was like it was talking to me telepathically because I mean Sam did that right Sam you can telepathically.
• 57:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I was also thinking of like how easy it is to get lost in that moment like when I saw the light there and like the.
• 58:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: The Blue Ridge Mountains are essentially the foothills of Apple actually right you're right in the middle of it right when I saw that light like that it was weird It was weird like they used the term alien apathy and that's the kind of what I felt like like I was just kind of locked in like oh shit And it wasn't anything crazy it was just a light in the mountains but I was just like just completely locked in
• 58:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I feel like if I if there wasn't some if if I would have been by myself.
• 58:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: What I've been able to snap myself out of it, you know, it's a good question because I was so locked in so curious so like interest is crazy when you when you were like that because they remind you of the white procession story.
• 58:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: where the dudes locked in and the only thing that knocked him out of it was the other fish.
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's fucking, that's a good point because I was so in a like it had a hundred percent of my attention like what would have stopped me from you know going up the other side of the mountain to see like the other side of the hill to see see what it was the only reason I snapped out of it because I
• 59:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because Mel was there and I'm like, can you see this?
• 59:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that was the only thing that's not me out of it was trying to get some sort of confirmation that what I was seeing was real.
• 59:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then it's almost like a, like I said in the, on the night shift, as soon as she looked at it, it was like as soon as it was acknowledged by another person, it blipped out.
• 59:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is weird.
• 59:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because it does make it feel like I could be disappeared right now.
• 59:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was there for you.
• 59:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: come over there like who's to say when they got closer and then because I kind of coach you to go take a ride because I I thought like I immediately thought UFO but not here in this lights in the woods and shit like that I'm like oh man maybe some maybe it's not off this planet maybe something well within this planet could be or at least the but dimension close stars it could be it's weird it's definitely
• 1:00:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, it's because you just you hear the phrases a lot, you know, beings of light on and so forth.
• 1:00:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I do, I do have this like kind of love interest for the faith anymore.
• 1:00:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do find them super interesting.
• 1:00:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not saying that these are direct like direct fade, but they're pretty fucking close to all the descriptions.
• 1:00:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, the more the more that we dig in, read cases, learn about things, like I know the
• 1:00:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the more we dig into this, I feel like the failure, the umbrella that is the thing is way bigger than we, then, well, I'll speak for myself that I ever thought it was.
• 1:01:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it's beyond degree, little forest creatures, you know, I think there's a lot under that umbrella that has, has over time kind of fell into that other worldly trickster, kind of, uh,
• 1:01:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: entity that exists.
• 1:01:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like it's kind of like the overall like the word parent normal because the parent normal house is so much inside it.
• 1:01:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, I kind of feel like Fay is a is another word for parent normal at this point.
• 1:01:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is interesting because you're right.
• 1:01:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: There is there's a fuckload that falls underneath that umbrella that's kind of not fair to all the things that are underneath it, but
• 1:01:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And just seem to be in a kind of, and to be fair, and like it kind of does a disservice to a lot of it because a lot of people in modern world think fair and they just think fairie like this tinkerbell.
• 1:01:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was one of them.
• 1:01:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, same absolute absolutely.
• 1:01:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: But they all just think like a, you know, a tinkerbell or friendly no.
• 1:02:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's couldn't be further from the truth.
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Tinkerbell's such weird like soft disclosure, if you like look at the actual character, doesn't she gain power the more people believe in her?
• 1:02:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Probably.
• 1:02:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't quite remember, but like that's real like energy manifestation, like on the Disney level there.
• 1:02:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which is crazy for sure, for sure.
• 1:02:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's weird.
• 1:02:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's a I guess that is pretty high opening and it was such a left turn like I didn't expect it I guess I was supposed to just be a mixed bag episode of just weird shit in the woods.
• 1:02:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just got curious and I started digging around and I'm like, Holy shit, like this goes back to Cherokee, 17th century Scottish people.
• 1:02:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what was the, what was the name they called him?
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: The, the beings that the Malaysian people ran off, you, you set a name for them.
• 1:03:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a weird one.
• 1:03:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not, I'm doing it so you have to read it again.
• 1:03:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was just curious that like it legitimately had, legitimately had a name.
• 1:03:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:03:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that the law is that they were pushed off into the woods to become the fae, like I never heard that ship before, no.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the way that it layers in with like the missing 401 and like if anybody that knows me knows that like missing people just baffling me the fact that a whole ass human can just vanish from existence is just mind blowing to me right go and if you have this lower behind whatever these entities are
• 1:03:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Interdimensional Fay, whatever you want to call it, they have the ability to just pluck people into the neather, pluck them into a different realm, a different dimension, is terrifying.
• 1:04:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: So they call them the AOS base SI.
• 1:04:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how to pronounce it.
• 1:04:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: which train, I guess, trains late to very full.
• 1:04:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Irish name for supernatural race and gaelic folklore, similar to health.
• 1:04:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
• 1:04:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Said to descend from the twatha date and non, or the gods of Irish mythology, descendants of the gods.
• 1:04:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and that twatha date and non is exactly what I have written down.
• 1:04:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:04:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: which is weird.
• 1:04:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's so awesome.
• 1:04:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can say it's cool that it goes back that far.
• 1:04:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then jumps like I can jump that to 2022.
• 1:05:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And find, find gaps.
• 1:05:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: What's, I mean, it's just, it's, it's, it's barley.
• 1:05:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:05:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think like what's crazy is like people and there, there were always rumors about.
• 1:05:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Predator being based on like a real encounter and like the Vietnam Somewhere in that neck of the in the world like there was a real and I've always tried find that freaking story again and I can't find it but there are rumors that That was based on a like a real encounter Oh, it's so like I'm looking up
• 1:05:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: the AOC or however you pronounce it, if we look into the book, this is from Reddit, someone was asking questions about Iris Mythology and these things.
• 1:06:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: and someone said, uh, we can have a look at the book of invasions.
• 1:06:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: In that text, one of the unfortunately few sources of Irish mythology, the twatha day, do indeed go through hills and become the AOC, people of the mounds, and a fairy or fay is just a weird blanket term that was placed on them.
• 1:06:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anything supernatural and Celtic mythos gets termed fairy.
• 1:06:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't matter if it's good, doesn't matter if it's bad.
• 1:06:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: What it does, where it lives, it's pretty much always just
• 1:06:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's so interesting.
• 1:06:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Which is kind of like, what we've always said is that sometimes things get lumped in a shit.
• 1:06:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or different cultures have different names but they're the same thing, you know, it's just, I think that's one of the things that we have to watch out for in the paranormal is labels.
• 1:06:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think labels do a lot more disservice than we acknowledge them.
• 1:06:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
• 1:06:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everything gets, everything gets thrown under a, like a specific blanket, when this, while I feel like it's good to, to study it as a whole, like to see how the things interweave with one another kind of like we were doing today.
• 1:07:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they, like, they respectfully deserve their own lane.
• 1:07:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
• 1:07:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
• 1:07:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
• 1:07:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why like,
• 1:07:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: like that's, you know, one of the reasons like when people are like angels and demons are the Sarah or aliens and demons are the same thing.
• 1:07:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like the are they though.
• 1:07:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:07:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
• 1:07:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I think we're trying to lump too much together.
• 1:07:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:07:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Until further and tell further research, I think that you're kind of right.
• 1:07:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that it's smarter.
• 1:07:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's smart, you kind of hit it not in the detail that I'm about to say, but I think it's smarter to be like, okay, so there's demons and then there's aliens.
• 1:07:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: two different camps, two different mythos.
• 1:08:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: There they are, but he it's almost like making those stupid fucking overlapping bubbles.
• 1:08:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, you know, and then well, here's some commonalities between them.
• 1:08:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's strange.
• 1:08:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't mean they're the same, but there's some commonalities may we should explore this more, but to keep it separate and to keep it like.
• 1:08:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: where we can categorize it if you can, whether that be in your brain or on paper, keep them separate and then mark the obviously mark these overlaps and maybe we as a group or individual begin to dissect those overlaps.
• 1:08:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's how you're good.
• 1:08:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's I think that that and itself and that's kind of the way Kiel was going.
• 1:08:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the way you figure out what the phenomenon is.
• 1:08:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you investigate everything individually, like a bunch of different shoes all in the same path, you know, investigate them individually, then you start marking the similarities between all these things and then you break it down again, mark the similarities between you ghosts and the similarities between, you know, fairies and then the similarities between aliens and demons and demons and fairies and then.
• 1:09:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: like it just once you and then get to the crux of those and then what like ironically enough if you think about it on a conspiratorial level that's never going to happen because every camp is so ingrained in their camp like we we always talk about building like a legit community
• 1:09:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: of people coming together and sharing information.
• 1:09:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because that's the only way it can be done.
• 1:09:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you and me can only be proficient and so much.
• 1:09:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, even if we dedicated our lives to a gray aliens, that's all we can do.
• 1:09:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: We don't have the time to look into the Fay or the red caps or the dog men, you know what I mean?
• 1:10:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's impossible.
• 1:10:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you have to have people
• 1:10:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: from every background come together and and communicate on these levels.
• 1:10:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And not be so fucking judgemental about it.
• 1:10:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's why Kiel was such a polarizing figure that he he thought all of this stemmed from one singular phenomena people people do not like that.
• 1:10:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't like that, but I will acknowledge the possibility of.
• 1:10:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm at least open-minded enough to explore that, you know, because it can be fucking absolutely right.
• 1:10:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:10:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're all like offshoot, not necessarily the same thing, but they all come from like one source or one area or one veil or some shit.
• 1:10:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I guess for a different way of considering it to be like almost the the evolution of humans.
• 1:10:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it'll be weird way.
• 1:10:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of fall out and break down.
• 1:10:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, how we have we have different offshoots of essentially us throughout time.
• 1:10:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we're I didn't know anything like.
• 1:11:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I'd heard of the shimmer beings of the glimmer man and stuff.
• 1:11:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just solely as a current day, a current day phenomena.
• 1:11:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:11:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that it was tied back into history and let alone multiple different cultures.
• 1:11:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Me either.
• 1:11:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Which is why.
• 1:11:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Me either, man.
• 1:11:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was, that's why I like, I got so excited about it because it was such a left hook.
• 1:11:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to round and kind of just me being curious about it and
• 1:11:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then you stumble across that name, the shining ones.
• 1:11:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, what the fuck is there it is that it is as soon as I heard that name, I'm like, I'm sold.
• 1:11:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in.
• 1:11:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in.
• 1:11:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is way too good.
• 1:11:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Way too good.
• 1:11:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like, it's almost a feeling of enlightenment when you're stuttering, when you're stuttering, when you're studying a modern day phenomena, and you're locked into like modern cases from within the last like 50 years.
• 1:11:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then you start getting to be before that.
• 1:12:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: like before media, before newspaper, before like before any of this stuff could have spread around and you're looking at, you're like, oh, this happened in Ireland.
• 1:12:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this happened in Taiwan.
• 1:12:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this happened in America and where you know that these cultures are not mixing and like people traveling from from these places at the time that this is going on.
• 1:12:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like this phenomenon
• 1:12:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: just because.
• 1:12:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which is.
• 1:12:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like what's cool is when you can take that modern day case and like you said hit on a 17th century case, you're like, oh, shit.
• 1:12:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there's similarities in the case.
• 1:12:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:12:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like dead on similarities.
• 1:12:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you know, there's no possible, like, because you think about what, what would be the odds of someone in
• 1:13:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: and knowing about the white procession.
• 1:13:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: none.
• 1:13:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's very simply, you know, exactly.
• 1:13:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel like no fucking way.
• 1:13:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: That has its own, that has its own lore in Appalachia has its own lore that exists there.
• 1:13:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're not looking, like, I don't feel like they're looking to, to link it to anything else.
• 1:13:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you see that in the mountains.
• 1:13:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: You say the fuck away from it.
• 1:13:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
• 1:13:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 1:13:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: They may as if, if, like, the fisherman, if you see that near the water, you stay the fuck away from it.
• 1:13:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:13:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that was, that was overseas.
• 1:13:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like,
• 1:13:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that was all, I wish I would have wrote the timing down because it was old school, if I remember correctly.
• 1:13:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so the fact that like across the planet, there's two different cultures seeing the same shit.
• 1:13:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that it's tied in to like, like, look at the, look at the similarities it has to the encounters with Sam.
• 1:14:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
• 1:14:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's why I was so dumbstruck when you were talking about Sam and I'm like, old, the fucking phone, but this is crazy.
• 1:14:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Down to the way they moved and they described, because they described Sam as dancing.
• 1:14:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they described him as dancing, or the other beings as dancing.
• 1:14:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I never would have thought about either that, because she described him as like this
• 1:14:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you're absolutely right that somebody could see that from afar and be like these things were dancing around.
• 1:14:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: She even used the term dancing.
• 1:14:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, the time that she saw him when he warned her about her boyfriend.
• 1:14:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: She said he wasn't doing his normal dancing movement.
• 1:14:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's such a bonkers off the wall specific term for it to be for it to be used to describe the way these these things being or these these beings move in in other different things is like that that it's such a specific
• 1:15:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: verbiage that it's almost too specific for people to have picked up on this and like, oh, I'm going to weave it into this story just because, you know?
• 1:15:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
• 1:15:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I, I still like, like, it even goes back to like your, you know, entry statement of, um, then when they cross over
• 1:15:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that could 100% explain those puppet like movements, and then like I said, like, from afar, or even from close, like someone might perceive that as dance, yeah, because you Something I never would have considered.
• 1:15:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because you are moving in a very bizarre like dancing way.
• 1:16:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I feel like us as humans, we are very naive that everything exists under our physics, under the way we experience and understand physics.
• 1:16:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: But our physics could be very, very wrong from like other dimensions physics.
• 1:16:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: So when beings pass over to this, they might take a little like, we'll get used to it.
• 1:16:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: What the fuck makes you wonder what happens
• 1:16:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, price sucks.
• 1:16:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably sucks, but it is a good point.
• 1:16:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a good, like, really good observation, man.
• 1:16:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we like to be fair, like us as humans only have so many ways to describe things too.
• 1:16:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we have, you know, that kind of limits us as well.
• 1:16:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we can only understand like what our senses let us understand.
• 1:16:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right, yeah.
• 1:16:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we can't fathom anything outside of that.
• 1:17:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and that's why it's so important to be like the have a sense of humility like you and I do and have to be as open as we possibly can because I don't think I don't think that there are many people out there.
• 1:17:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: That would have had this thought that up like a puppet like movement.
• 1:17:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: like correlating that with possibly a description of dancing.
• 1:17:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:17:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I think people would like, people like to isolate and double down.
• 1:17:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, no, it was definitely like a symbolic dance and you're like, but could it be this?
• 1:17:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Could it be this?
• 1:17:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's important.
• 1:17:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think those two cases are I think Sam's case and these in particular, there's so many similarities that you like you do yourself a disservice, not not to entertain the idea that maybe Sam whatever he was is in the same vein of whatever these beings are, the white processions, the shining ones and shit.
• 1:18:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: It very well
• 1:18:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: It very well could be especially the way that the way that the air shimmer they use the term fucking shimmer in it, you know, I know like And the fact that the being shimmered and the doorway she said some of the doorway shimmered I don't know it's weird.
• 1:18:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's weird.
• 1:18:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's weird.
• 1:18:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's still I still kind of go back to like our angels are aliens and demons.
• 1:18:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I still want to keep Sam and his own pocket because he does have some strange anomalies
• 1:18:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, these these finding people, but there are there are a lot of fucking similarities where it's that inter bubble where you're kind of like this is strange.
• 1:18:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're overlapping somehow.
• 1:18:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why the fuck he's a clown.
• 1:18:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: But why he has a wand that he can do chalk drawings on and in right here.
• 1:18:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's up with that, but there are this inter bubble here where there's a lot of crossover in strange.
• 1:19:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was a bad stretch.
• 1:19:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got to tell you it was my wheels turn and it was it was crazy man and then I love that it was just like a stumble on had no plan for at all.
• 1:19:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was just one of these random things that I found I got a book on old apple actually folklore in mythology.
• 1:19:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I need to look through see if I can find better shit in there.
• 1:19:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I bet there is hell.
• 1:19:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I bet there is I was a ripper.
• 1:19:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's what I could it it's one of my favorite
• 1:19:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: new like upcoming topics are like the the predator shimmer glamour man encounters yeah that's awesome that was a huge fan of predator you know yeah and so it's definitely one of them the topics that and like like you kind of said earlier it it what we thought is a new hot topic coming up like we there's a lot of newness to it
• 1:19:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you're coming to find out.
• 1:19:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's also that old.
• 1:19:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's forever.
• 1:19:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:19:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:19:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's even more exciting.
• 1:20:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: It leans into like maybe the predator was soft disclosure about these things.
• 1:20:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:20:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there's there's been I know I've talked about a countless times how there were rumors that predator was based off a true situation.
• 1:20:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And of course, maybe the the hunting aspect of it wasn't necessary in the case.
• 1:20:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: But if you look at it,
• 1:20:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: people go out of the woods.
• 1:20:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: They see a shimmering person.
• 1:20:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: They don't come back and and you know it don't it doesn't matter if you have an entire race of beings that that are inherently good.
• 1:20:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: You have some bad apples.
• 1:20:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
• 1:20:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: You only need one bad apple to go out and just start murdering people and pull them into other realms to.
• 1:20:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and with the with the abilities like that, it would be like us against ants.
• 1:20:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:20:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:20:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: We saw how well that worked out like 90% of the predator movie.
• 1:20:52
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 1:20:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:20:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
• 1:20:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:20:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: He marked everyone except Arnold.
• 1:20:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's Arnold.
• 1:20:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: So as our ones fighting chances, 1990s era Arnold's works are bigger.
• 1:21:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I put money on him.
• 1:21:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:21:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:21:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was a bang.
• 1:21:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious to see what the Holocaust has to say about it.
• 1:21:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hope they love it as much as I did.
• 1:21:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: We want to know where we're, where you're out with these shining beings, where we're, where we stand with them.
• 1:21:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about them, Holocaust?
• 1:21:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: You think, you think they're, they're benevolent?
• 1:21:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: You think they're malevolent?
• 1:21:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where are they?
• 1:21:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would like to know.
• 1:21:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like the idea that they are, but they don't give a shit.
• 1:21:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Which is almost as bad as being bad, you know?
• 1:21:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: 100% agree.
• 1:21:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: 100% agree.
• 1:21:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like they're just indifferent.
• 1:21:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, you know, if you come near us, I'm going to pull you into this another realm.
• 1:21:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, that's your problem now.
• 1:21:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's where I'm at.
• 1:21:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I might like promise you, arcane knowledge of everything you want.
• 1:21:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: But if it works and you come over here, nobody's going to see you again.
• 1:21:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: It makes, and another thing, and another thing, makes me wonder why the little boy was pulled.
• 1:22:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, if they're in the liminal area, you would think his family would be in the liminal area too.
• 1:22:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, remember what they forgot to mention the earlier, too, ledge, brought it up.
• 1:22:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: They like to fuck with people with second sight, which is essentially a sensitivity to the paranormal in a very long way of footing it.
• 1:22:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like they know specific people know.
• 1:22:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:22:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's weird.
• 1:22:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's weird.
• 1:22:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bangor.
• 1:22:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, yeah, give us your thoughts on this Holocaust comment.
• 1:22:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Leave us comments on socials when this posts up on YouTube Jihadist down on the YouTube what you think about what do you think these things are?
• 1:22:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that'll wrap it up.
• 1:22:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for kicking it with us on this fine Monday morning.
• 1:22:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: We'll be everybody as a good work week.
• 1:22:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: And on that note, stay safe, stay weird.
• 1:22:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if you see the white procession in the middle of the mountains or near a river, just stay away, just stay away.