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Remember, Remember the 5th of November! | Guy Fawkes · Beheaded

0:05
SPEAKER_01: Hello and welcome to Beheaded.
0:07
SPEAKER_01: This is season two, episode 12.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm Megan Moore and I'm Elizabeth Black.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's almost Easter.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: This weekend.
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SPEAKER_00: This weekend.
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SPEAKER_00: I had a proposition for an Easter-esque execution.
0:23
SPEAKER_01: We had all of our things planned in advance, and today she comes to me and she goes, I have a great idea for Easter.
0:29
SPEAKER_01: I was like, Oh, I get yeah, we can switch up the order.
0:32
SPEAKER_01: What do you what do you think?
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SPEAKER_01: She goes, Jesus Christ.
0:36
SPEAKER_01: Literally, Jesus Christ.
0:37
SPEAKER_01: I was like, an execution.
0:39
SPEAKER_01: Ah, Megan.
0:40
SPEAKER_01: I was like, It's an execution.
0:42
SPEAKER_01: It is.
0:43
SPEAKER_01: And it's it's themed.
0:45
SPEAKER_01: It's thematic and it is an execution.
0:48
SPEAKER_01: I don't think we're A, either ready for it or B appropriate enough to do it.
0:54
SPEAKER_01: There was that time.
0:56
SPEAKER_01: We would wreck it real bad.
0:57
SPEAKER_00: There was that time in the Thomas More episode when we we we tried out that um segment on.
1:03
SPEAKER_00: I think that's a great episode.
1:04
SPEAKER_00: Do you want to do the canonize this episode?
1:06
SPEAKER_00: My mother segment.
1:08
SPEAKER_00: My mother did not approve, so she may not have But we still did it.
1:12
SPEAKER_00: So Why I think it would be a good Like he's a real person.
1:17
SPEAKER_01: No, he's real.
1:18
SPEAKER_01: I just think we should get feedback from listeners first before we plunge into an episode of that depth.
1:23
SPEAKER_01: Maybe in season four.
1:25
SPEAKER_01: That's good good target.
1:27
SPEAKER_01: If everyone's like, I want to know the details of the world.
1:30
SPEAKER_01: I just highly doubt there's a lot of people out there.
1:32
SPEAKER_01: They're like, oh my gosh, they have to do Jesus.
1:34
SPEAKER_01: I feel like if they love it that much, they will learn on their own.
1:37
SPEAKER_01: They don't want us to like butcher things.
1:40
SPEAKER_01: We maybe could have even done like other saints.
1:42
SPEAKER_01: Like John the Baptist or something.
1:44
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, it's a great idea.
1:45
SPEAKER_00: Wasn't he John the Baptist was beheaded?
1:48
SPEAKER_00: I believe so.
1:48
SPEAKER_00: I think he was.
1:49
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if he was beheaded, but definitely executed right now.
1:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure he was beheaded and Jesus found out while he was imprisoned.
1:56
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I should know this.
1:57
SPEAKER_00: Or not imprisoned.
1:58
SPEAKER_00: Jesus wasn't imprisoned yet, but like he was good friends with John the Baptist and then found out after the fact that he was already beheaded and he was like super sad about his friend.
2:07
SPEAKER_01: That's pretty good.
2:08
SPEAKER_01: We should fact-check this before we release it.
2:10
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's fact-checked.
2:12
SPEAKER_00: Okay, it's already in Megan's brain.
2:16
SPEAKER_00: Anywho, hi, welcome to Beheaded.
2:18
SPEAKER_00: Oh, hi, it's us again.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, we kind of forget the microphones here and then we start.
2:22
SPEAKER_00: No, no.
2:22
SPEAKER_00: No, no.
2:23
SPEAKER_01: That's a great kickoff, I think.
2:25
SPEAKER_01: I think we should let our listeners decide if they want that in the future.
2:28
SPEAKER_01: And if we do it, it's because you know enough people said they wanted it.
2:31
SPEAKER_01: Or Megan won her argument.
2:33
SPEAKER_01: Buried it deep and we'd never talk about it again.
2:35
SPEAKER_00: Or Megan won.
2:37
SPEAKER_01: How are you doing?
2:39
SPEAKER_01: I'm okay.
2:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm ready for Easter.
2:42
SPEAKER_01: I'm actually going to Denver this weekend again.
2:45
SPEAKER_01: I feel like I've been going to Denver a lot.
2:47
SPEAKER_01: I know.
2:47
SPEAKER_01: I think it's just because my mom in the pandemic is like, you gotta come home for every main holiday.
2:52
SPEAKER_01: So I've been going back a lot.
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SPEAKER_01: And I haven't been back for Easter in like 15 years.
2:57
SPEAKER_01: It's been a long time.
2:58
SPEAKER_01: That's a long time.
2:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I'm really excited.
3:00
SPEAKER_01: Like my mom loves, she's, you know, loves holidays.
3:04
SPEAKER_01: She's just one of those people that just like, no matter what holiday it is, she will go all out and do all the things.
3:09
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure as a 32-year-old woman, I'm still gonna get an Easter basket from the Easter Bunny.
3:13
SPEAKER_00: I haven't had an Easter basket in probably I could say like 22 years.
3:18
SPEAKER_00: Well, the Easter Bunny is alive and well in the world.
3:21
SPEAKER_00: 31 minus 22.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh.
3:24
SPEAKER_00: 11?
3:24
SPEAKER_00: I've been drinking all day.
3:26
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
3:27
SPEAKER_00: Elizabeth had the funnest wine tasting.
3:30
SPEAKER_00: She did.
3:31
SPEAKER_00: Virtual wine tasting with her team.
3:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, through work.
3:34
SPEAKER_01: So jealous.
3:34
SPEAKER_01: Through work.
3:35
SPEAKER_01: We like literally, it was it was such a good time.
3:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, my boss was like, you know, we're gonna do a virtual team bonding, and we're like, okay, that's great.
3:43
SPEAKER_01: She's like, but we're gonna start at like 1:30 p.m.
3:46
SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh my gosh, that's right after lunch.
3:48
SPEAKER_01: So I didn't have lunch today, I just went straight into wine tasting, and I'm pretty excited about it.
3:54
SPEAKER_01: And I got like these cute little, they look like almost essential oil bottles of wine tasters.
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SPEAKER_01: I got like six of them, and then I got some cheese in the mail, and I don't know, what else I got?
4:04
SPEAKER_01: Like I got apricot slices and nuts and dates.
4:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
4:09
SPEAKER_01: I got a basically like my favorite dinner ever.
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SPEAKER_00: A slew of things.
4:13
SPEAKER_00: If I could have a charcuterie board every night for dinner, I'm in heaven.
4:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was wonderful.
4:18
SPEAKER_01: So it's either I've been drinking since 1:30, and it's what time is it right now?
4:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, it's like nine o'clock.
4:23
SPEAKER_01: Nine o'clock at night.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I was just gonna say, if I could choose it'd be one of two like Last Supper meals for me.
4:33
SPEAKER_00: It would either be a fancy chakuterie board as you just described with like good cheeses and I can't eat nuts, I'm allergic.
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SPEAKER_00: Highly allergic, but no nuts.
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SPEAKER_00: Some nuts you can.
4:41
SPEAKER_00: I can eat peanuts because they're not they're not nuts, they're legumes.
4:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh.
4:46
SPEAKER_00: Fun fact.
4:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, fun fact.
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SPEAKER_00: Peanuts are not technically a nut, so I can eat them.
4:50
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
4:50
SPEAKER_00: I'm highly allergic and anaphylactic.
4:52
SPEAKER_00: Actually, sorry, this is a tangent.
4:54
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I keep interrupting myself.
4:57
SPEAKER_00: So this is gonna be the two-year anniversary of when I was working on Easter Sunday and had an anaphylactic attack because who knew that Boston Market put walnuts in their cranberry sauce?
5:09
SPEAKER_01: I mean, to be fair, the packaging I'm pretty sure you showed me said contains walnuts.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but who's gonna read that in cranberry sauce?
5:17
SPEAKER_00: With a highly allergic cranberry sauce reaction.
5:22
SPEAKER_00: I was just really not okay with that.
5:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
5:24
SPEAKER_00: Paramedics came.
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SPEAKER_00: It was an ordeal.
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SPEAKER_00: I was never more embarrassed in my entire life.
5:29
SPEAKER_01: Just to say this, I love you as a friend, and if I was there, I would definitely help you out.
5:33
SPEAKER_01: But I'm very happy I wasn't there that day because I just I don't I'm very uncomfortable in emergencies.
5:39
SPEAKER_01: I can handle them.
5:39
SPEAKER_01: I just did not want the paramedics to be.
5:42
SPEAKER_01: I simply don't respond to those things.
5:44
SPEAKER_01: Like I was not okay.
5:46
SPEAKER_01: I was unwell.
5:47
SPEAKER_01: Logistically, I like those things.
5:49
SPEAKER_01: Emotionally, I don't want to handle it.
5:51
SPEAKER_01: Like I don't know.
5:52
SPEAKER_00: This is the problem.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: Empathy, sympathy.
5:54
SPEAKER_00: I know you're a terrible cold person.
5:56
SPEAKER_01: I am.
5:56
SPEAKER_00: I am anaphylactic, but it wasn't so much that it turned into like a full-on anxiety attack because I was like, This is my death, like my throat's closing up and I can't breathe.
6:07
SPEAKER_00: But then I started hyperventilating because of that and made it worse, and then I passed out.
6:11
SPEAKER_00: And then you should have had no epic.
6:15
SPEAKER_00: I stole one from someone once, but it was expired.
6:17
SPEAKER_00: Five years expired.
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SPEAKER_01: They're expensive.
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SPEAKER_01: I get it, but if you're that allergic, I feel like it just you know, you gotta have one.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: Normally I'm knocking wood.
6:28
SPEAKER_00: I have that was my only time I like unknowingly ate nuts.
6:31
SPEAKER_00: I know, but I'm like scared.
6:32
SPEAKER_01: Like when I'm out with you at like a sports bar watching a game, and I'm caught up in the back.
6:40
SPEAKER_01: Okay, because I'm like I just said, I'm great at that.
6:42
SPEAKER_01: I'm great at me on the back empathy, do the I'm like, I don't know what you're saying.
6:47
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how to handle that.
6:48
SPEAKER_01: Like again, logistically, I would know what to do if someone told me, but in terms of the emotional part, I'd be like, I Megan, deal with it.
6:53
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what to do with you.
6:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
6:55
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I gotta reel it in.
6:56
SPEAKER_00: So I was talking about that, and then from there, I'm working backwards on my tree branch of tangents.
7:00
SPEAKER_00: I was talking about, oh yeah, if it were my like last meal, chakuri board, as you had mentioned, without nuts, or like a disgustingly amazingly delicious pizza appetizer platter, appetizer platter of like wings, nachos, like all the things like cakes, fries, onion rings, all the nice American.
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SPEAKER_01: What would you do?
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SPEAKER_00: Nice charcuterie board or like fried deliciousness of guilt as a last meal?
7:32
SPEAKER_00: Last meal.
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SPEAKER_01: Charcuterie board.
7:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
7:36
SPEAKER_01: I love I love fried food, but there's a time and a place.
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SPEAKER_01: Like I don't always want it.
7:40
SPEAKER_01: Well, we kind of pigged out last weekend.
7:42
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's what I'm saying, because USC was in the Elite Eight of the March Madness tournament, so I had to, right?
7:47
SPEAKER_01: Me too.
7:48
SPEAKER_01: So I was supporting Elizabeth.
7:49
SPEAKER_01: She was supporting me with that green chili burger with tater tots and notches.
7:54
SPEAKER_01: That, like, that's there's a time and a place, but I can't have that every day, but I can have shark creepy.
7:58
SPEAKER_01: I'm still trying to fast from that, you know that, right?
8:00
SPEAKER_01: Like I'm on day four after that scenario, and I'm still trying to clean my yeah.
8:06
SPEAKER_01: It's hard, and maybe some of you uh in other countries can identify this when you go watch like soccer games at pubs or whatever.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: But as an American, when I want to go watch like American football or like in this case, NCAA tournament, I sit there and I feel guilty because I'm watching like a three-hour game, right?
8:24
SPEAKER_01: So I like feel like I have to order something constantly.
8:27
SPEAKER_01: Drinks.
8:28
SPEAKER_01: So they come over and I'm like, oh, one second, to like veer them off course, and then they come back and I'm like, okay, fine, one drink.
8:34
SPEAKER_01: They give me a drink, and then I'm like, okay, an appetizer.
8:36
SPEAKER_01: They give me an appetizer.
8:37
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, okay, we'll split us like the main dish.
8:39
SPEAKER_01: And I just keep going.
8:40
SPEAKER_00: You could have split a salad, to be frank.
8:42
SPEAKER_01: No, that's true.
8:43
SPEAKER_00: But I just but we went for the green chili cheeseburger with tater tots.
8:48
SPEAKER_01: I just feel guilty.
8:49
SPEAKER_01: I feel like I need to order A, something of substance because I'm drinking alcohol, and B, like something that's gonna like fatten her paycheck because I'm like, you're waiting for it.
8:56
SPEAKER_01: Also, that lady was kind of a bitch, let's be honest.
8:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:59
SPEAKER_01: She was nicer later.
9:01
SPEAKER_01: Probably we were just drunker later, and maybe we were nicer to her.
9:04
SPEAKER_01: Maybe we were nicer.
9:06
SPEAKER_00: Maybe it was us.
9:07
SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'm the bitch.
9:08
SPEAKER_01: No, it's not you of the two of us.
9:10
SPEAKER_00: I've had a lot of years in server life, and she was like, we would be in the middle of talking and she would just walk through you.
9:17
SPEAKER_01: I might not be the warmest of person, but I'm very nice to servers.
9:20
SPEAKER_01: I think you are.
9:21
SPEAKER_01: I think I'm very polite and I say the right things, and I was like kind of trying to crack a joke or two with her and being nice, and she's like walked away halfway through the room.
9:29
SPEAKER_01: They're like, what do you know about beheadings?
9:31
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, okay, never mind.
9:34
SPEAKER_01: Tough crowd, tough crowd.
9:35
SPEAKER_01: Tough crowd.
9:36
SPEAKER_01: I was just like asking you about your well whiskey, and you give me this dirty look and walk away.
9:40
SPEAKER_01: Is well whiskey so bad?
9:41
SPEAKER_00: We do try to leave the beheaded business card.
9:45
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes when we drop when they drop the check and we when we sign the receipt, we sometimes it depends on how many drinks we were in.
9:54
SPEAKER_01: If we're between two to three, we'll leave it.
9:56
SPEAKER_01: That's probably the only factor in terms of whether we leave the card or not.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: Actually, our biggest promotion right now is just um us being drunk in bars and leaving our business cards around.
10:07
SPEAKER_01: We should give them some type of promotion.
10:09
SPEAKER_01: Like, if you found this in a bar, here's what you get.
10:11
SPEAKER_00: We should do some marketing research and find out where people have found us.
10:15
SPEAKER_00: Like, did you find us our card in the dirty floor of a bar restroom or probably a sports bar?
10:22
SPEAKER_00: Did you use a hashtag on iTunes like most humans?
10:25
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
10:26
SPEAKER_01: I think bars might be our niche.
10:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm just gonna I'm gonna Regina Georgia and just swing it around all over the place.
10:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just like stick them on lockers in a high school.
10:36
SPEAKER_01: You know, but I was reviewing today because someone asked me during my lovely wine-tasting happy hour.
10:41
SPEAKER_01: They were asking me about like where most of our traffic comes from in terms of cities.
10:44
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh, I was like, well, we have Oh my god, how did you answer that?
10:47
SPEAKER_01: Well, I looked at the stats and I told them honestly.
10:50
SPEAKER_01: I was like, you know, it's funny because we have obviously a lot in Scottsdale, because that's where we're from.
10:54
SPEAKER_01: So like there's big, I don't know, markets.
10:56
SPEAKER_01: All those jamba juices I've been leaving our flowers.
10:59
SPEAKER_01: Maybe all the waiters we've been giving our cards to.
11:01
SPEAKER_01: And then there's a big chunk in Los Angeles, which we don't know that many people in LA, kinda.
11:06
SPEAKER_01: Like I wouldn't.
11:07
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm from California, but not LA.
11:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm from Queens Beach.
11:10
SPEAKER_01: But they don't really know about us.
11:11
SPEAKER_01: Like, I it's not like I've told my college friends about this.
11:13
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, but so it was a big chunk in there, and then it's like really random cities in the US, and then like the fifth biggest city is like right outside of London.
11:20
SPEAKER_01: So all our London folks in the house.
11:24
SPEAKER_00: If you can identify with this, I think like you're embarrassed by how we asked.
11:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
11:28
SPEAKER_01: Sorry, okay, I'll stop.
11:29
SPEAKER_01: They'll be more embarrassed when we go there and we leave our cards at all the posts.
11:33
SPEAKER_01: I'm like these bitches.
11:34
SPEAKER_01: They're here.
11:35
SPEAKER_01: No, but uh, but it just just to give you a heads up.
11:38
SPEAKER_01: We have a huge following in Chicago.
11:40
SPEAKER_01: Chicago got a big base there.
11:41
SPEAKER_01: I don't know anyone in Chicago.
11:43
SPEAKER_01: I know one person in Chicago.
11:45
SPEAKER_01: No, I doubt she's given like a bunch of her friends our cards.
11:49
SPEAKER_01: But we have a big following in Chicago, a pocket.
11:51
SPEAKER_01: Shout out Chicago Texas, like like Austin, I think, is a pretty big hub.
11:54
SPEAKER_01: I don't know anyone in Texas.
11:56
SPEAKER_01: I know one another one person in Texas.
11:58
SPEAKER_01: So I know one person in every city, so maybe you guys are I don't know, the ones pretty much.
12:02
SPEAKER_00: We're doing great.
12:03
SPEAKER_00: We appreciate all of you.
12:04
SPEAKER_00: Speaking of our fans, oh, we've had a few recommendations.
12:09
SPEAKER_00: And we're a lot of recommendations.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: For once, I'm listening to you.
12:13
SPEAKER_00: Normally, people send me things, I'm like, yeah, yeah, we're gonna get to it.
12:16
SPEAKER_00: Like, I know you want Amberlynn.
12:19
SPEAKER_00: I know you want Thomas Cromwell, Jane Gray, but you know what, you gotta be patient.
12:25
SPEAKER_00: And but tonight is your night because we've got a good one.
12:29
SPEAKER_00: Got a great one.
12:30
SPEAKER_00: We've had a couple people recommend Guy Fox.
12:34
SPEAKER_00: Guy Fox.
12:35
SPEAKER_00: Remember, remember the 5th of November.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: Also, Fox is the name of the Phoenix and Harry Potter.
12:41
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: Can we just get into that first?
12:43
SPEAKER_00: Let's in half a second.
12:44
SPEAKER_00: Maybe at the end.
12:45
SPEAKER_00: At the beginning of the end.
12:46
SPEAKER_00: Beginning, now.
12:47
SPEAKER_01: Now right now.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: You should, as the I should.
12:50
SPEAKER_01: You're the resident Harry Potter fan.
12:52
SPEAKER_00: I am too, but you love more so.
12:54
SPEAKER_00: I am heavily immersed in Harry Potter.
12:57
SPEAKER_00: There's three things in my life.
12:58
SPEAKER_00: It is Elizabeth.
13:00
SPEAKER_00: Four things in my life.
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SPEAKER_00: Five things in my life.
13:04
SPEAKER_00: Hold on, I'm thinking of more.
13:05
SPEAKER_00: I should say my husband.
13:06
SPEAKER_00: Am I the fifth?
13:07
SPEAKER_00: My husband.
13:07
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
13:08
SPEAKER_00: I'm not, these are a no priority.
13:10
SPEAKER_00: I cannot rank them right now.
13:11
SPEAKER_01: As she's doing this with her hand where one's up top and one goes further down and then one goes more down.
13:15
SPEAKER_00: I would say Henry VIII slash Amberlynn and everything that has to do with any of that.
13:20
SPEAKER_00: No particular order.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: Harry Potter and Taylor Swift.
13:24
SPEAKER_00: Those are like my passions.
13:25
SPEAKER_00: Oh, and Elizabeth.
13:26
SPEAKER_00: And Elizabeth is number five on this list of five.
13:28
SPEAKER_00: I mean Taylor and I have a relationship.
13:31
SPEAKER_00: I don't, though.
13:33
SPEAKER_00: I feel like if we met each other, we would.
13:36
SPEAKER_01: I don't think you would as strong as you and I.
13:38
SPEAKER_01: You know what I hope?
13:39
SPEAKER_01: I actually hope that you meet Taylor one day and you like have a great time with her and it's like a fun weekend for you.
13:44
SPEAKER_01: And then at the end of the weekend.
13:46
SPEAKER_01: Your Sunday, you're like, I just miss Elizabeth because she gets me more than that.
13:50
SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't want you there with us.
13:52
SPEAKER_00: You can go ahead.
13:53
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, okay, going back to things.
13:55
SPEAKER_00: What were we talking about, Guy Fox?
13:57
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how I'm last priority in your life.
13:59
SPEAKER_00: Harry Potter.
13:59
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, we are all about the tangents.
14:01
SPEAKER_00: I gotta rein it in.
14:02
SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
14:03
SPEAKER_00: I also have not been drinking like Elizabeth has.
14:06
SPEAKER_00: So this is just Megan.
14:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
14:09
SPEAKER_00: This is me after eight hours of drinking.
14:12
SPEAKER_00: If I seem drunk sometimes, it's just me.
14:14
SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
14:15
SPEAKER_00: Um we're with it.
14:17
SPEAKER_00: Harry Potter.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: So for those who are not familiar with Harry Potter, there's a famous Phoenix in the in the books named Fox.
14:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
14:26
SPEAKER_00: Spelled the same exact exact way.
14:28
SPEAKER_00: And to be W-K-E-S.
14:31
SPEAKER_01: Which when I was reading Harry Potter, and obviously, like I'm not as huge of a super fan as Megan, but when I was reading it, I was like, oh, Fockus the Phoenix.
14:39
SPEAKER_01: Fox.
14:39
SPEAKER_01: Fockus the Phoenix.
14:40
SPEAKER_01: And then it wasn't until I guess the movie where they say his name, Fox.
14:45
SPEAKER_01: They're like, oh, Fox.
14:46
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh, Fox.
14:47
SPEAKER_01: I get it.
14:47
SPEAKER_01: Like Gowel.
14:49
SPEAKER_00: Well, as we're gonna get into our story of Guy Fox, there's a lot of fire involved.
14:54
SPEAKER_00: And not that he was burned, but there was some explosions or lack of explosions.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: We'll get into it.
15:01
SPEAKER_00: Right.
15:01
SPEAKER_00: Regardless, the Phoenix is about fire, reborn from the ashes, it explodes, it's a new person or new bird.
15:09
SPEAKER_00: It's a new bird, it's reborn.
15:11
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, long story short, yeah, it was like a little nod to Guy Fox in British history.
15:16
SPEAKER_00: So I really appreciate that little tie-in.
15:19
SPEAKER_00: Also, side note, sorry, there's gonna be a lot of those.
15:24
SPEAKER_00: Another side note, um, if you watch The Sorcerer's Stone, as Ron, Harry, and Hermione are going up the moving staircase, I believe it's right before they're about to go into the third floor corridor during that scene and they meet Fluffy the Dog.
15:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
15:40
SPEAKER_00: If you're looking in the background, I kid you not.
15:43
SPEAKER_00: If you have not looked this up, watch it, Google it, whatever you need to do.
15:47
SPEAKER_00: There is a um portrait, because you know, this moving stairwells is like walls full of portraits all the way up the walls.
15:55
SPEAKER_00: There is a very clear portrait of Anne Boleyn.
15:58
SPEAKER_00: And I pointed that out to my husband Jake, and I have never in my life been so proud of him.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: My heart was afire of warmth.
16:07
SPEAKER_00: He goes, Well, of course, she was a witch in England, wasn't she?
16:12
SPEAKER_00: So of course she would go to Hogwarts.
16:14
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Boom, what?
16:18
SPEAKER_01: Brain exploded.
16:19
SPEAKER_00: I had my brain exploded in that moment.
16:21
SPEAKER_00: So, anyways, you should go back.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: That's the only Harry Potter tangent I will make tonight.
16:24
SPEAKER_00: But you should go for Ample and like Harry Potter stuff.
16:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, occasionally Jake has those really good aha moments that we don't catch because we know the facts and we're like, oh my gosh, like ambulance portrait.
16:34
SPEAKER_01: But he like ties everything together.
16:35
SPEAKER_00: But he's like, Yeah, but of course that makes sense because there were there were rumors that she was a witch and she was part of her sentencing was witchcraft.
16:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:42
SPEAKER_01: And we were both like, oh, whoa.
16:44
SPEAKER_01: Good good job, Jake.
16:45
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, okay, let's tie it back.
16:47
SPEAKER_00: Guy Fox.
16:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so uh yeah, give go you tell us about his early life.
16:52
SPEAKER_00: His early life isn't super exciting, but I'll do it just to give us the full picture.
16:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
16:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, Guy Fox.
17:00
SPEAKER_00: He was born April 13th, 1570.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: Right.
17:06
SPEAKER_00: In the middle of Elizabeth I's reign.
17:09
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
17:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, he was born in York, England, so this is definitely an English execution we're talking about.
17:16
SPEAKER_00: Right.
17:16
SPEAKER_00: One of our favorites.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, he was the second of four children.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: Edward and Edith Fox were his parents.
17:24
SPEAKER_00: Guy was a very uncommon name of that time.
17:27
SPEAKER_00: It sounds really cool right now.
17:28
SPEAKER_00: You know, you got Guy Ferrari, whatever.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: Fieri.
17:32
SPEAKER_00: Fieri.
17:33
SPEAKER_00: Guy was not a very popular name, so that was kind of cool.
17:36
SPEAKER_00: But his actual name is Guido or Guido.
17:41
SPEAKER_01: I think his actual name was Guy, but later he went into the city.
17:44
SPEAKER_01: Oh, but later, sorry.
17:45
SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, I'm already wrong.
17:47
SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
17:47
SPEAKER_01: But that's right.
17:47
SPEAKER_00: We'll get into the Vaughn nickname later.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, his father died when he was eight, and his mother remarried.
17:53
SPEAKER_00: And when she remarried, she married a Catholic, and she the mom was already Catholic, but they were um good old Edward wasn't, so the sign of the times was to be Protestant.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: Right.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: And because Elizabeth I was Protestant.
18:08
SPEAKER_00: And when his mother remarried, they converted to Catholicism, which is kind of a big deal.
18:14
SPEAKER_00: Huge deal.
18:14
SPEAKER_00: We always talk about this.
18:16
SPEAKER_00: If again, if you're ever confused about the root of like English history, normally it comes down to Protestants versus Catholics.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: Right.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: You the way you kind of have to remember it is whoever is on the throne at the time, what is their religion, and that's what the country is.
18:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:31
SPEAKER_01: And Elizabeth was Protestant.
18:33
SPEAKER_01: Right.
18:33
SPEAKER_01: And King Henry VIII, as we remember, kind of went back and forth because he was every wife was different.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: Every wife had a different religion.
18:39
SPEAKER_01: So originally he was a Catholic and then he converted to Protestantism with Anne Boleyn.
18:44
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, so every wife had like a slightly different uh, you know, religious belief.
18:49
SPEAKER_01: Um, people believe that even when he died, he was still a Catholic man.
18:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they think he died as a Catholic.
18:54
SPEAKER_01: Right.
18:55
SPEAKER_01: Actually, they know because he confessed.
18:57
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
18:58
SPEAKER_01: And he did like the Catholic last confessions.
19:01
SPEAKER_01: Um, and so uh Edith and her new husband, they were known to even harbor priests at the time.
19:07
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, priests that were a little bit nervous to be out in public or you know, anything.
19:12
SPEAKER_00: Well, it was illegal at some points, and it was considered heresy if you were Catholic.
19:16
SPEAKER_00: So they were not really shy about protecting their faith.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: And um, at this time, Guy was very involved in Catholicism.
19:27
SPEAKER_00: In fact, he fought in the Eighty Years' War, which was basically Spain versus versus the Dutch Empire fighting for the rights of Catholicism.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: Right.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, he fought in the Netherlands, but he was in the military for 10 years.
19:41
SPEAKER_00: So we're talking about a military dude.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: He's he's not shy, he's a tough dude, he knows how to fight.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: Um he started as a junior officer and then made it to captain, and now we're about 1601.
19:52
SPEAKER_01: Right.
19:53
SPEAKER_01: So at that time he meets um someone named Thomas Wintour, which Wintour is spelled like Anna Wintour, if you know, who's like the uh editor-in-chief of Vogue.
20:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, and uh I I subscribed to Architectural Digest, and she's also like the global content editor for that.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: So I'll hail Anna.
20:09
SPEAKER_01: But uh, so Thomas Winter, I wonder if there's a relation.
20:12
SPEAKER_01: Maybe we'll use that as a follow-up for next time.
20:14
SPEAKER_01: But he meant I need to write that down.
20:15
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say, actually, you know what?
20:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna write it down here.
20:18
SPEAKER_01: Put it in my little scribe here and say follow-up.
20:21
SPEAKER_01: Describe it.
20:22
SPEAKER_01: Do it right.
20:23
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
20:23
SPEAKER_01: We haven't had follow-ups in a while.
20:24
SPEAKER_01: I feel like we've been pretty good about not having any, but this is a good one to see if we can figure it out.
20:29
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, meets Thomas Winter uh upon returning to England after he was in the Netherlands, and uh Thomas Winter introduced him to Robert Catesbury.
20:38
SPEAKER_01: Katesby.
20:42
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, wine tasting, y'all.
20:43
SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
20:45
SPEAKER_00: Um it's been two sentences.
20:49
SPEAKER_01: Um, so so they they all get together and with a few other co-conspirators, um, you know, Thomas and Robert kind of coax him and say, Hey, we're planning this assassination of King James I, who was a Protestant at the time.
21:03
SPEAKER_01: This is after Elizabeth I has died.
21:06
SPEAKER_00: Yes, she died in 1603.
21:08
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
21:09
SPEAKER_00: And then Charles I went on to the throne like shortly after.
21:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
21:13
SPEAKER_00: But by 1604, for sure, he was the King of England.
21:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and if you guys remember from our Mary Queen of Scots episode, James I is Mary Queen of Scots' son.
21:22
SPEAKER_01: Woo! I love it when it all ties together.
21:25
SPEAKER_01: Right.
21:25
SPEAKER_01: And it's funny too, because as we remember from the Mary Queen of Scots episode, Mary is a fierce Catholic but is eventually executed because of her cousin, Elizabeth I.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: Quick plug.
21:37
SPEAKER_00: If you haven't listened to that episode, it's pretty darn good.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: Two parter, and there's a lot of storied information.
21:43
SPEAKER_01: Listen to it.
21:44
SPEAKER_01: Um but James kind of abandons her in her hour of need and eventually becomes king himself, and he's a Protestant king.
21:50
SPEAKER_01: So it's almost like it sucks for Mary Queen of Scots, because here she is, again, very Catholic, dying for her religion, dying for her right to the throne, and James.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: James the first is like, alright, I'm on the throne now and I'm Protestant, like, whatever.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so he ascends to the throne.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: So, so Robert and Thomas Winter, they're the ones that are like, okay, we're gonna execute this guy because we really want to restore Catholicism to the throne.
22:15
SPEAKER_01: They need a Catholic monarch at this point.
22:17
SPEAKER_01: So they when they meet uh Guy, they have a few nice things to say about him.
22:22
SPEAKER_01: They, you know, there's a few people in his circle that say that he was highly skilled in matters of war, that he was a man of action, he was capable of intelligent argument as well as physical endurance.
22:34
SPEAKER_01: So again, like uh Megan had mentioned, he was he was a man of war, a man of action.
22:39
SPEAKER_01: So they really looked up to him and they quickly just let him in the circle.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: I know you had some good description on what he looked like.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: I need that visual.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: Can you come back?
22:47
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so by the time he's a strapping young man and he meets these guys, he's he's tall, he's powerfully built, and he's got a thick reddish-brown big beard and like flowing hair.
22:58
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
23:00
SPEAKER_00: Tell me more flowing mustache.
23:02
SPEAKER_00: Tell me more about that mustache.
23:04
SPEAKER_00: Just kidding.
23:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna get weird.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: So that's long ago.
23:08
SPEAKER_01: You can just imagine that he's this kind of again, strapping military man who's tall, he's broad, he's he's intimidating looking, and he's willing to fight for his religion.
23:18
SPEAKER_01: So appealing in a lot of ways, you know, to men and women.
23:21
SPEAKER_01: Um, but so they eventually convince him, hey, like, get in on this assassination attempt with us.
23:27
SPEAKER_01: So they go about it by a few different ways.
23:29
SPEAKER_01: The first thing that they do, after they've all kind of gathered their conspirators and talk through their their idea of assassination, is they um they rent this room that's near the House of Lords.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: And where do you know exactly where it was?
23:46
SPEAKER_00: No, it's next to the Thames River.
23:47
SPEAKER_01: Right, it's next to the Thames, it's next to the House of Lords.
23:50
SPEAKER_01: It's this room in an inn or something.
23:52
SPEAKER_00: I do have some info on that actually.
23:54
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
23:54
SPEAKER_00: Highlight.
23:56
SPEAKER_00: Thomas Percy, who's one of the conspirators.
23:58
SPEAKER_01: Another conspirator, yeah.
23:59
SPEAKER_00: He's part of their little posse.
24:01
SPEAKER_00: He was promoted, and because he was promoted, he had access to the house of the keeper of the wardrobe of the king.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: So the house belonged to that dude.
24:09
SPEAKER_00: Fox kind of took on this like false name as an alias.
24:14
SPEAKER_00: John Johnson.
24:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he took on the name of John Johnson, real original.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: Can we just like good job, guy?
24:20
SPEAKER_00: That's like me being like hey guy, good job.
24:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:23
SPEAKER_00: I was oh, whatever.
24:24
SPEAKER_00: We'll we'll let you know.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: Megan Megenson.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, he took on a false alias and he took on the fake role of being a servant to Percy, who's actually like his BFF bro in this little posse of conspirators.
24:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, so he's basically in the ha in the household now, and their big plan is let's let's dig a tunnel.
24:44
SPEAKER_00: Dig a tunnel.
24:45
SPEAKER_01: So they think, hey guys, I have a great idea.
24:47
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna dig a tunnel under this area.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: Gonna dig a hole.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: Uh to the House of Lords.
24:53
SPEAKER_01: And so they they begin this tunnel digging.
24:56
SPEAKER_01: If you can think of like, I don't know, Count of Monte Cristo, where it takes them forever to like chip away at this underground tunnel that's gonna lead them to the House of Lords.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: And eventually there's like someone who comes in is like, hey guys, um, there's actually like a chamber underneath the House of Lords, and we can rent that instead.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: How convenient, too, though.
25:16
SPEAKER_00: Like, so their whole plot is to blow up the House of Westminster Abbey slash the House of Lords.
25:23
SPEAKER_01: It's all very much in the same area, like Westminster Abbey, House of Lords, like all together.
25:28
SPEAKER_00: Just conveniently, there's a storage room, so they call it an undercroft.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: Right.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: Which is basically a storage room.
25:34
SPEAKER_00: Right.
25:34
SPEAKER_00: And that's directly underneath, that just was available for lease.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:38
SPEAKER_01: Ding, a light bulb.
25:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so instead of wasting all your time digging away at this giant tunnel, they're like, guys, we can just rent this room that's directly underneath.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: So they're like, okay, great.
25:49
SPEAKER_01: So they rent this room and they start storing a bunch of gunpowder under there because they know that's how they're gonna blow the House of Lords eventually.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: Um, so there was originally like 20 barrels, um, they put in another 16.
26:02
SPEAKER_01: And it's funny too, because if you think about like what this chamber looks like, if you've ever seen the movie Sherlock Holmes with like Robert Downing Jr.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: Jr.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: and uh Jude Law, it's like that like the whole premise of that movie is they're trying to blow up the House of Lords underneath the It's basically Guy Fox.
26:20
SPEAKER_01: It's the same thing, except their version is like a more sophisticated, at least at the time, bomb.
26:25
SPEAKER_01: Whereas this is just a bunch of gunpowder.
26:28
SPEAKER_01: So imagine a bad idea.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it's just those big corridors, so they go in, they start stuffing it, and who's in charge of like keeping watch over the gunpowder?
26:38
SPEAKER_01: Guy.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: So Guy's the one that's like, okay, here's what you're gonna do.
26:42
SPEAKER_01: Like when it comes time, which originally um the House of Lords was supposed to meet in February of I believe it was 1606.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: Four, thank you.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: Five.
26:52
SPEAKER_01: Never mind.
26:53
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, six no, it's 1605.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: Okay, 1605.
26:57
SPEAKER_01: So when they were supposed to meet, there was a big outbreak of the plague.
27:00
SPEAKER_01: So we can all identify with this everywhere in the world because that was delayed.
27:04
SPEAKER_01: They're like, oh sorry.
27:06
SPEAKER_01: So used to that.
27:07
SPEAKER_01: The COVID.
27:08
SPEAKER_01: The COVID delayed everything.
27:09
SPEAKER_01: The COVID delayed everything.
27:10
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna have to push this back to November 5th, is when we're gonna meet.
27:14
SPEAKER_01: So Guy is under there watching 36 barrels of gunpowder, and his whole plan is okay, I'm gonna light this fuse and I'm gonna escape across the Thames River.
27:25
SPEAKER_01: So he's sitting there, um, he was seen kind of leaving the cellar like shortly after midnight the day before.
27:32
SPEAKER_01: So people knew right away, like, there's something sketchy going on.
27:35
SPEAKER_01: Why is this guy going to be able to do that?
27:37
SPEAKER_00: Also, let's like put under perspective.
27:39
SPEAKER_00: Like, let's really hone in on what what they're trying to do.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: Right.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: So they're trying to blow up the House of Lords on opening day of Parliament.
27:46
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
27:47
SPEAKER_00: That's a big deal because everyone and their mom is there.
27:50
SPEAKER_00: It is the king, it is the queen, right?
27:52
SPEAKER_00: It is the bishops, it is the judges, it is basically all of the top political system.
27:58
SPEAKER_00: Every man who has any word in saying how to run England is going to be there on that day.
28:04
SPEAKER_00: Right.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: And their plan is to blow them up into smithereens.
28:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:08
SPEAKER_00: And their goal was to get Princess Elizabeth, don't get confused, not that Elizabeth, because she died.
28:14
SPEAKER_00: Remember, we're after that.
28:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: Young, so this was King James I's daughter.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: She's only conveniently named Elizabeth.
28:22
SPEAKER_00: Nine years old.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: Nine, mind you.
28:24
SPEAKER_00: Nine years old.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: Their plan was blow up everybody, the smithereens, and then get Queen, sorry, not Queen.
28:31
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: Princess Princess Elizabeth onto the throne.
28:34
SPEAKER_00: Right.
28:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, and after they blew everything up, they were gonna cause a revolt in the Midlands and like basically like capture the princess and then make her the you know, it was just kind of as this tradition.
28:46
SPEAKER_00: I think it's funny because like that's what they were trying to do with Mary Queen of Scots, too, is like, let's, you know, let's assassinate the queen and then get her on the throne.
28:53
SPEAKER_00: Right.
28:54
SPEAKER_00: It's the same exact thing.
28:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I mean, right after Henry died, too, it was kind of a series of things that this is always the story.
29:01
SPEAKER_00: When has it worked out?
29:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, when has it worked out?
29:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, learn from this is why we do this podcast.
29:05
SPEAKER_00: You gotta learn from history.
29:07
SPEAKER_00: Don't do that.
29:07
SPEAKER_00: Don't do that.
29:08
SPEAKER_00: Never works.
29:09
SPEAKER_01: So, word to the wise.
29:11
SPEAKER_01: Uh, don't try to blow up all the people who are in charge and put someone else random on the throne because it was always gonna backfire on you.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so there were some soft souls though.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: There were in their in their little circle of people.
29:23
SPEAKER_01: There were.
29:23
SPEAKER_01: So obviously, when they're uh, you know, this whole posse was thinking about blowing the House of Lords, they were thinking, you know, there are some really good Catholic men again uh like um around these House of Lords, so we don't want to blow up everybody.
29:37
SPEAKER_01: Well, like what can we do to make sure the guys we like aren't there?
29:41
SPEAKER_01: So sure enough, one of the weaklings of the group, and we're gonna call him a weakling because that's what he is, um, but Francis Tresham, he decides to write a letter to one of his buddies, Mont Eagle, who's in Parliament, and he says, Hey, you shouldn't show up on this specific day.
29:58
SPEAKER_01: Like when you guys are gonna meet the House of Lords, like just don't show up.
30:02
SPEAKER_01: So he doesn't explicitly tell him there's going to be an explosion.
30:06
SPEAKER_01: It's more of a like a hot tip, just like a hey, maybe just go golfing that day.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: I think the word was like, find reasons for you to be shifted away or something.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: Like they use some like funny verbiage on like find a reason and not be there on Tuesday, November the 5th, 1605.
30:23
SPEAKER_00: Wink, wink, wink.
30:24
SPEAKER_01: Wink, wink, wink.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: If it were meaning, it would have been like, hey, Elizabeth, there's a great charcuterie board at the pub three miles away from the book.
30:32
SPEAKER_00: They're giving away buy one, get one for your charcuterie boards.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: There's tons of wine and charcuterie.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: Speaking of cheese, can I have some of that?
30:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:40
unknown: Thanks.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: This is some brie.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: Leftover from wine tasting.
30:43
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it doesn't look wonderful, though.
30:44
SPEAKER_00: Which one?
30:44
SPEAKER_00: That's the brie?
30:45
SPEAKER_00: Both of them are brie.
30:46
SPEAKER_00: They're both brie.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: That one's cut it in half.
30:48
SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is the same cheese.
30:50
SPEAKER_01: Same exact cheese.
30:51
SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
30:52
SPEAKER_01: Um, it's really good.
30:53
SPEAKER_01: It's very creamy.
30:54
SPEAKER_01: This is the one I like.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it goes really well with like a full-bodied red, according to the lady who led our tasting, which I always thought it was for lighter wines, but she said the more strong the tannins, the brie smoothness is supposed to go with it well.
31:06
SPEAKER_01: Well, I just like cheese and alcohol, so we're fine.
31:10
SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
31:11
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, give me some cheese.
31:13
SPEAKER_01: I will gladly step away from this site at the House of Lords.
31:16
SPEAKER_01: Um, but Montegal like kind of tips people off and he's like, I think I think there's reason to believe something bad's gonna happen.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: So they end up they end up inspecting everywhere in the House of Lords, including the under chamber area.
31:31
SPEAKER_01: So they go there and they literally find Guy hoarding 36 barrels of gunpowder.
31:39
SPEAKER_00: Holding a match.
31:40
SPEAKER_01: Holding a match and like, hi all.
31:44
SPEAKER_01: I'm just don't worry about me and the funny.
31:48
SPEAKER_01: The funny part is like they try to disguise the gunpowder barrels with like logs of wood and like different things to suggest, hey, there's nothing to see here.
31:57
SPEAKER_01: But they found obviously Guy and they found the the 36 barrels of gunpowder.
32:02
SPEAKER_01: So they're like, Yeah, you you can't have this here.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: This is not okay.
32:08
SPEAKER_01: So they end up uh arresting him, taking him in, and they start to interrogate him because they have a sense that he's a part of a broader conspiracy.
32:16
SPEAKER_01: Because why else would someone you know tip off about this whole situation?
32:20
SPEAKER_00: And this is on remember, remember November the 5th.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I said that wrong.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: Remember, I'm gonna have some cheese here too.
32:27
SPEAKER_00: Remember, remember the 5th of November.
32:30
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
32:30
SPEAKER_00: This is the morning, very, very early hours when they arrested him.
32:35
SPEAKER_00: Once they figured out that guy got arrested, like word got out pretty quickly, and all of his conspirators and his little posse, overall, there was 13 men involved in this.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: Right.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: They all try to flee.
32:46
SPEAKER_00: Like, don't blame them.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: All right, brave men do.
32:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, a couple of them did get away, but most of them kind of like hung back and trying to figure out an escape route, but they started guarding the the territories and the borders, figuring out, like, okay, this this isn't just one dude on his own with 36 barrels.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: Like, clearly, there's more people involved.
33:04
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
33:05
SPEAKER_00: So, um, but right now they only have Guy arrested.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: They take him, they arrest him, and they torture him.
33:13
SPEAKER_00: And this is why we listen to this podcast and make this podcast.
33:17
SPEAKER_00: Of course.
33:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, while getting tortured, he only gave them the name of John Johnson.
33:23
SPEAKER_00: He was just like, I'm John Johnson, I'm John Johnson, that's my name.
33:26
SPEAKER_00: Right.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, the king, James First, personally like met him and was like, Why did you want to blow up everyone, including me and my wife?
33:37
SPEAKER_00: And his response was, Blow you Scotch beggars to native mountains.
33:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he said, I want to blow you Scotch beggars back to your native mountains.
33:46
SPEAKER_01: So he was very he was he reminds me a lot of like Joan of Arc in this situation, because when they begin to interrogate him, he's just not willing to cooperate, he's very defiant, just kind of throwing things back in their face, like, oh, because I want to blow you all to hell type of thing.
34:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, so it wasn't a while before he like every prisoner pretty much does, comes around.
34:06
SPEAKER_00: So James I was actually pretty impressed with his stamina because they really started getting to him, and James signed a warrant to allow them to torture him to what they needed to do.
34:17
SPEAKER_00: Right.
34:18
SPEAKER_00: Including the rack.
34:19
SPEAKER_00: Right.
34:19
SPEAKER_00: He told them in so many words.
34:22
SPEAKER_00: There was a pretty good quote I read of what he actually said, but I don't have that.
34:25
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
34:26
SPEAKER_00: Said something along the lines of like, start small, then work your way up, but eventually we're gonna get the truth out of him.
34:32
SPEAKER_00: Right.
34:32
SPEAKER_00: And the rack was illegal to use as a torture mechanism unless the king signed a warrant to allow them to use it.
34:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
34:41
SPEAKER_01: Um is ironic considering all the things we've learned about so far in history in England.
34:45
SPEAKER_01: It's like all the ways they've killed people, and now all of a sudden it's like, but you need a warrant, rack home.
34:49
SPEAKER_00: Well, they're trying to follow some policies.
34:51
SPEAKER_00: They're trying to have some rules.
34:52
SPEAKER_00: Make rules.
34:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, for us little little cute executiones who don't know what a rack is.
34:59
SPEAKER_00: Executionados.
35:00
SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
35:01
SPEAKER_00: Executionatos.
35:02
SPEAKER_00: Am I an executione tonight?
35:04
SPEAKER_00: That was a good one.
35:05
SPEAKER_01: You've been giving me all this wine because it's my last day.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh executionados.
35:10
SPEAKER_00: Being on the rack means that you're pulled limb by limb until your muscles start pulling out, your tails start cracking, your muscles are tearing, and it's an extremely painful situation.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: No one wants to be on the rack.
35:24
SPEAKER_00: No.
35:25
SPEAKER_00: Rack equals bad.
35:26
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
35:27
SPEAKER_00: They started him off in monocles, not a monocle.
35:31
SPEAKER_00: That's the eye piece.
35:32
SPEAKER_00: What did they call it?
35:33
SPEAKER_01: I think it's pronounced monocles, is it not?
35:34
SPEAKER_00: I call them handcuffs.
35:36
SPEAKER_01: They're handcuffs here in Arizona.
35:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but uh maybe in English it's pronounced I don't know.
35:41
SPEAKER_01: Monocle is a thing you have in your eye.
35:44
SPEAKER_00: But maybe.
35:44
SPEAKER_00: They put him in handcuffs and they hang them from the ceiling, which doesn't like at first be like, I could do that, but really no.
35:51
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna start pulling your joints out of your socket, and you can't last very long being hung solely by your arms.
35:58
SPEAKER_00: That's how they start.
35:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:00
SPEAKER_00: And he is sticking to his word.
36:01
SPEAKER_00: I'm John Johnson, I don't know anything.
36:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:04
SPEAKER_01: Also, really quick to the he was so again defiant and firm in his ways that even King James was like, I admire his Roman resolution, you know, his like Catholic belief, like how you know proud he is that he won't even give up his real name or his conspirators' names or any of that.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: We should also mention, out of all of the kings and queens before him, James First, surprisingly, though he was Protestant, was probably the most tolerant to the Catholics.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:31
SPEAKER_00: So like if they really had an issue, like they should have gone up against like Mary I.
36:36
SPEAKER_00: Obviously weren't alive by then.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: Right.
36:38
SPEAKER_00: But anyways, other than Mary I, who was just burning heretics, 300, I think, was her like final tally at the end.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: Um, he had he like they were, yeah, they were ostracized, but they weren't being burned at the stake every day.
36:54
SPEAKER_00: Right.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: And I think that was a little bit of his political ploy too, because he didn't really know where to lean.
36:59
SPEAKER_01: He had seen what happened with King Henry VIII and how flip-floppy he was between Catholicism and Protestantism.
37:05
SPEAKER_01: And then he saw Elizabeth I be very firm in her ways as a Protestant.
37:09
SPEAKER_01: He saw his own mother being very firm in her ways as a Catholic.
37:11
SPEAKER_01: So I think he did it more of as a political motive of like, hey, he was known as the peacemaker.
37:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm Protestant, but I'm cool if you want to be a couple of things.
37:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was like his whole angle is I want to be the peacemaker.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, so they take Guy Fox to the Tower of London.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: The room that he was interrogated in is now called the Guy Fox room.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: Right.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: You can go and you can see it, which is we will do that one day.
37:32
SPEAKER_00: Added to the list.
37:33
SPEAKER_00: Can't wait.
37:34
SPEAKER_00: Um eventually they searched his body, which they should have done on day one, but sure.
37:40
SPEAKER_00: They found it.
37:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, and they find a letter addressed to who but Guy Fox.
37:44
SPEAKER_00: So they're like, Really?
37:45
SPEAKER_00: You told us you weren't this guy, but so you're not John Johnson?
37:49
SPEAKER_00: No.
37:49
SPEAKER_00: And they had a ton of questions for him.
37:51
SPEAKER_00: Even some of the questions that they were interrogating him with were straight from King James.
37:56
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
37:56
SPEAKER_00: Like they were trying to, they were really nitpicking him for days.
38:00
SPEAKER_00: Like, okay, so if you're John Johnson, like where are you from and how did you learn French?
38:04
SPEAKER_00: And then when where were you like blah blah blah?
38:06
SPEAKER_00: Like, where were you exactly when you learned like all these questions?
38:09
SPEAKER_00: Really trying to get him on his feet.
38:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
38:11
SPEAKER_01: And John Johnson didn't think through his backstory that well.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
38:16
SPEAKER_00: On November 7th, he finally kind of like, lack of a better term, broke in.
38:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
38:22
SPEAKER_00: Because he's on the rack.
38:23
SPEAKER_00: And he did, he emit he admitted, I'm I'm Guy Fox, I'm not John Johnson.
38:28
SPEAKER_00: And then he told them, overall, there's five people involved.
38:32
SPEAKER_00: Actually, there's 13.
38:33
SPEAKER_00: So he's doing okay.
38:34
SPEAKER_00: That's okay so far.
38:34
SPEAKER_00: He's just easing into it.
38:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
38:36
SPEAKER_00: By November 8th, he lists all the names.
38:40
SPEAKER_00: Cool.
38:40
SPEAKER_00: He's like, shit, one more day.
38:42
SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's 13 of them.
38:44
SPEAKER_00: We're sure like there was probably they were pulling out thumbnails, they were putting hot matches under his thumbnails, they were pulling things off, pinching him, beating him, hanging things, and cutting and racking and things.
38:57
SPEAKER_00: And throughout this, he's still all those adjective verbs, verbs, all the verbs.
39:01
SPEAKER_00: All the grossness.
39:02
SPEAKER_00: All the verbs.
39:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but throughout this, I mean he still showed a lot of resilience.
39:06
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he prayed to God constantly for the saving of his own soul, for the advancement of the Catholic faith.
39:12
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, it was kind of known throughout all of this that he was still holding very strong for a while.
39:18
SPEAKER_01: So it did take days for him to finally identify the names.
39:21
SPEAKER_01: And they said even at night he slept pretty soundly because he was so resolute that he was just like, no, like, I'm right, we're gonna get out of this, everything's gonna be okay.
39:30
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, but two days later, after all this execution, he was kind of a little bit more given in names.
39:37
SPEAKER_00: Four days later, on November 9th, is the day that he gave up Francis Tresham's name, which now they're like, okay, this makes sense.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: That's the guy who wrote the letter warning the Catholics in the parliament that this was gonna happen.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: So now, like, all the pieces are coming together.
39:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, and they get him to sign a confession.
39:56
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
39:56
SPEAKER_00: This is kind of sad.
39:58
SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna post a picture of this, I think.
40:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh the signature on his confession is so obvious that he was tortured because you can barely read the writing.
40:09
SPEAKER_00: It's like shaky and scribbly, and it can barely say like guy something.
40:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
40:15
SPEAKER_00: But like clearly, he has like a broken hand.
40:17
SPEAKER_00: So, like there's no proof of exactly how he was tortured, but from that evidence alone, historians are like, yeah, he was done pretty bad.
40:29
SPEAKER_01: Right.
40:29
SPEAKER_01: You have to have like a broken hand or severe, like, you know, dehydration mixture with physical torture.
40:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like to the point where you can't even write your own name.
40:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, on January 27th, 1606, eight plotters were brought to trial.
40:47
SPEAKER_00: Like, let me back up for just a second.
40:48
SPEAKER_00: How did we get to eight?
40:50
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
40:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, after he started listing names, they figured out where most of the plotters were hanging out.
40:56
SPEAKER_00: Like, as I said, some of them were trying to get out and some of them were kind of hanging back.
41:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:00
SPEAKER_00: They went into a bit of a showdown, and the military got into a shootout with them trying to arrest the other conspirators.
41:07
SPEAKER_00: Right.
41:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, our main bros, the the leader of the group, what's his name?
41:12
SPEAKER_01: Kate Spee.
41:13
SPEAKER_01: Kate Spee, who we mentioned earlier, uh, along with Percy, one of the other main guys, shot and killed during this altercation.
41:20
SPEAKER_00: I love this.
41:21
SPEAKER_00: Even though they were shot and killed and not like put on trial or executed, they still took their bodies and decapitated them and put their heads on spikes on the tower just to disembowel them.
41:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if they disembowel, but they definitely took their heads off.
41:35
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
41:36
SPEAKER_00: They didn't.
41:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, what's the point of disemboweling if they're already dead?
41:38
SPEAKER_00: But they wanted their heads on the body.
41:40
SPEAKER_00: The birds to eat their inside.
41:42
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they wanted it for medical purposes to study the anatomy of the human body.
41:46
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's a century before.
41:49
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, I'm still in the you got burked mindset everything.
41:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, so of the eight plotters that they arrest, they take them to Westminster all in a barge together.
41:59
SPEAKER_00: Right.
42:00
SPEAKER_00: Ironic, because that's the building they were trying to blow up.
42:03
SPEAKER_00: Yep, go right past it.
42:04
SPEAKER_00: There's already a scaffold on display.
42:06
SPEAKER_00: Right.
42:07
SPEAKER_00: Just all for the theatrics is the trial.
42:09
SPEAKER_00: Like they already know what's happening.
42:10
SPEAKER_00: They're passing by the scaffold.
42:12
SPEAKER_00: They are already building for them.
42:14
SPEAKER_00: Like, talk about innocence, we'll prove them guilty.
42:17
SPEAKER_00: Right.
42:17
SPEAKER_00: But sure.
42:18
SPEAKER_00: We'll go with it.
42:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:19
SPEAKER_01: And Fox, once he gets there, you know, pleads not guilty.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: Not guilty.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: Of course, the jury.
42:26
SPEAKER_01: Even though he confessed already.
42:27
SPEAKER_01: Right.
42:28
SPEAKER_01: The jury finds him guilty for high treason, as we've mentioned, a hot, hot take.
42:34
SPEAKER_01: It's the only term I use now.
42:36
SPEAKER_01: The only term we use to get people in trouble.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: When my husband's in trouble, I'm like, high treason.
42:40
SPEAKER_00: High treason.
42:40
SPEAKER_00: To the wife.
42:41
SPEAKER_01: High treason on all accounts.
42:43
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, so so they decide, okay, here's what your sentence is going to be, you and the eight conspirators.
42:50
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna make sure you guys are drawn on the backs of horses.
42:54
SPEAKER_01: So essentially, you are like latched to a horse and drawn through the streets.
42:58
SPEAKER_01: And the quote that they used was they want to make sure you're halfway between heaven and earth.
43:04
SPEAKER_01: So essentially you're not quite dead and you're not quite alive.
43:07
SPEAKER_01: You're just like dragged to the point where you're in that halfway point.
43:12
SPEAKER_01: Wonderful.
43:14
SPEAKER_00: And we've talked about drawn and quartering before, but it entails being hanged like just a little bit, um, d taking off the genitals, putting it in front of their faces, and then burning it in front of them.
43:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
43:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, opening them up, pulling out their heart, disemboweling them, taking out their their intestines.
43:33
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
43:33
SPEAKER_00: And then quartering them is cutting because we're not done.
43:36
SPEAKER_00: We're not done.
43:37
SPEAKER_00: Quartering is cutting off all their limbs.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: Right.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: And then decapitating them as the final blow.
43:44
SPEAKER_00: And and then they put that head on the spike and they put all the limbs in the four corners of the territories, and that is a drawn in quartering.
43:50
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
43:50
SPEAKER_01: And they said specifically that they want to put the hearts and genitals um on sticks so that they are uh they are prey for the fowl in the air.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: So basically they want all the birds to peck at their insides as well.
44:03
SPEAKER_01: So it's not enough that you just take them out and show them before they die.
44:06
SPEAKER_01: You also have to make sure that the birds eat them after you're dead.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: What's so disgusting is like people show up and they want to see this.
44:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:14
SPEAKER_01: This is a public, exciting thing, like a sporting event.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: And altogether there are five of them who are going to be drawn and quartered on the same day.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: Right.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: So this is like a big sp spectacle.
44:27
SPEAKER_00: And it takes a long time because they're doing each of them individually, which is also the worst for the last person who's watching all of it and like seeing their fate in front of their eyes.
44:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:38
SPEAKER_00: Oh, terrible.
44:40
SPEAKER_01: But Fox has kind of a good plan here.
44:43
SPEAKER_01: So it's not quite sure if it's intentional or not, but we think it is.
44:48
SPEAKER_00: I think it is.
44:49
SPEAKER_01: I think so too.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: He's he's not stupid.
44:51
SPEAKER_00: He's not dumb.
44:52
SPEAKER_00: So I mean he was dumb when he got caught red-handed with a match in his hand.
44:55
SPEAKER_00: That part was a little bit more.
44:56
SPEAKER_01: Besides that, he's not that dumb.
44:57
SPEAKER_01: After that, he smartened up a bit.
44:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, so what he does, uh, you know, um, on this day of execution when he sees everyone else kind of tortured in front of him, is he goes up to the scaffold and purposely falls from the scaffold with a noose around his neck.
45:13
SPEAKER_01: So he breaks his neck intentionally.
45:15
SPEAKER_01: Jumps.
45:15
SPEAKER_01: Jumps off of the scaffold.
45:18
SPEAKER_01: So that way he's avoiding the actual hanging, the drawn and quartering, and he that's how he dies.
45:25
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's how he dies.
45:26
SPEAKER_00: That's how he dies.
45:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:27
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, so when they hang him, they're supposed to hang him gently so that he's just kind of like starting to pass out, but then they wake him up.
45:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, so he breaks his neck by jumping off the ladder.
45:39
SPEAKER_00: Right.
45:39
SPEAKER_00: With the the news.
45:40
SPEAKER_00: So funny thing, Robert Keyes was another one of the conspirators in that group of five.
45:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:46
SPEAKER_00: He tried the same thing.
45:47
SPEAKER_00: Great idea.
45:48
SPEAKER_00: But before.
45:48
SPEAKER_00: No, he did it before a guy.
45:50
SPEAKER_00: He tried it before a guy tried to jump, but it didn't work.
45:54
SPEAKER_00: All it did was break the rope, and then they're like, okay, nice try, buddy.
45:57
SPEAKER_00: And then they they took him to the the quartering station, and then that's when they cut him open.
46:03
SPEAKER_00: Ew.
46:03
SPEAKER_00: Um and I'm sure Guy's on, like, I see what you're doing there, and then he tried it and it worked.
46:07
SPEAKER_00: Right.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of tricky.
46:09
SPEAKER_01: So good for him.
46:10
SPEAKER_01: Guy eventually kind of got got off of this terrible sentence.
46:13
SPEAKER_01: Not that death is ever a great sentence, but at least he did it on his own terms, and he went out just being like, Nope, not doing this drawn and quartering thing.
46:22
SPEAKER_01: Ugh.
46:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
46:23
SPEAKER_01: So so after that, you know, he has this uh this legacy that's kind of born because of you know everything he's w he's gone through, and then he was the one found with the matches and the gunpowder and all of that.
46:34
SPEAKER_01: So he becomes this kind of symbol of the gunpowder plot.
46:37
SPEAKER_01: When you think of the gunpowder plot, you think of Guy Fox.
46:40
SPEAKER_01: You don't remember.
46:40
SPEAKER_00: You never remember the 5th of November.
46:42
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
46:43
SPEAKER_01: You don't remember any of the other co-conspirators.
46:45
SPEAKER_00: You don't know Robert Keyes.
46:47
SPEAKER_00: We barely remember.
46:48
SPEAKER_00: We don't know Thomas Percy.
46:50
SPEAKER_00: Right.
46:50
SPEAKER_00: Guy Fox is our dude.
46:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:52
SPEAKER_01: So um, those of our listeners who are in England, which we do have quite a bit of, uh, they know this as Guy Fox night from here on out.
47:00
SPEAKER_01: So fun.
47:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which we're gonna start this.
47:02
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say, I was like, I think Megan and I are gonna start hosting an annual party uh, you know, on November the 5th.
47:08
SPEAKER_01: Um and they do tons of different things depending on where you are in the country, but uh they do tend to like burn Guy Fox in effigy.
47:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well they do bonfire.
47:18
SPEAKER_01: They do bonfire.
47:19
SPEAKER_00: And let's clarify the purpose of celebrating it isn't necessarily like celebrating like anarchy.
47:25
SPEAKER_00: It's about the escape of King James I, like the escape that the king had from assassination.
47:31
SPEAKER_00: Like the king was like quick-witted and onto them beforehand, and it's like the celebration of like the king in the parliament did not get blown up.
47:39
SPEAKER_00: Right.
47:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's not more of a celebration.
47:42
SPEAKER_00: It's like pro-parliament a bit, yeah.
47:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like pro-king, pro-parliament.
47:46
SPEAKER_00: Right.
47:47
SPEAKER_00: But over time, I feel like Guy Fox became like this action figure of like a cool heroic.
47:53
SPEAKER_01: He's kind of like a vigilante, I guess.
47:56
SPEAKER_01: Like a Batman.
47:57
SPEAKER_00: Let's think of um V for Vendetta, yeah, based on this story.
48:01
SPEAKER_01: Of course.
48:01
SPEAKER_01: So if you've seen V for Vendetta, the whole point is that it's a modern day reenactment of this bombing of parliament.
48:07
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
48:07
SPEAKER_01: You know, and so their whole thing is again, uh I don't know what he does in terms of what explosive he uses, but it's the same concept.
48:15
SPEAKER_01: I couldn't watch it through the pandemic.
48:16
SPEAKER_01: It was skipping me.
48:18
SPEAKER_01: With too much anxiety during the pandemic to watch that movie.
48:21
SPEAKER_01: Um, but but yeah, so I mean it's still it's still a very famous night that exists in in London.
48:26
SPEAKER_01: Or not London, but all of England.
48:28
SPEAKER_01: All of England, UK.
48:30
SPEAKER_01: Um, and we we had a I think um a note from one of our listeners too, who was talking to us about Guy Fox night outside of his pub, which is really cool.
48:40
SPEAKER_00: So fun.
48:40
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna do that.
48:41
SPEAKER_00: No one's gonna have any idea what we're doing.
48:42
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna be down like the Rosa Scotts Hill with like a dummy that's lit on fire and be like, remember, remember the 5th of November.
48:48
SPEAKER_00: And people are gonna be like, I'm sorry, but can someone call the police?
48:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
48:52
SPEAKER_00: Did you tell me where Maya is?
48:54
SPEAKER_00: Oh god.
48:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, why okay?
48:57
SPEAKER_00: So out of almost everything we learned, I think this was my favorite fact.
49:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:01
SPEAKER_00: So the term guy eventually turned into this loose term of like a poorly dressed man because that's how they dressed up their dummy.
49:09
SPEAKER_00: Their guy that they would parade through the streets is just like, you know, a scarecrow, kind of.
49:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:15
SPEAKER_00: Um, which eventually turned into like, oh, you guys, and oh, that guy, that guy.
49:20
SPEAKER_00: I know.
49:22
SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of in modern terminology.
49:24
SPEAKER_00: We say guy all the time.
49:26
SPEAKER_00: Origins.
49:27
SPEAKER_00: The origins of guy came from this legend of Guy Fox.
49:30
SPEAKER_00: That's pretty cool.
49:31
SPEAKER_00: So cool.
49:32
SPEAKER_00: I love things like that.
49:33
SPEAKER_01: I wonder if that term is gonna be okay in the future.
49:36
SPEAKER_01: Can we still use it?
49:37
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
49:38
SPEAKER_01: Is that not okay to say guys anymore?
49:41
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
49:41
SPEAKER_01: What do you say, ladies and gentlemen?
49:43
SPEAKER_01: No, you can't say that.
49:44
SPEAKER_01: You can't identify gender human folks.
49:46
SPEAKER_01: Hi, human folks.
49:47
SPEAKER_01: Humans.
49:48
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
49:49
SPEAKER_00: Um with all of this, we do have a very relevant segment.
49:54
SPEAKER_00: Segment.
49:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:55
SPEAKER_00: We've only done this one once.
49:57
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
49:58
SPEAKER_01: In our first episode of season two, which was um Catherine Howard.
50:02
SPEAKER_01: That bitch, Catherine Howard.
50:04
SPEAKER_01: Basic bitch.
50:05
SPEAKER_00: Basic bitch.
50:06
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna do the Ghost of the Gallows.
50:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh this I don't have a lot of content on this.
50:12
SPEAKER_00: That's okay.
50:12
SPEAKER_00: That's the point of this is just to educate.
50:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm just gonna turn into a little bit of like a travel review site right now.
50:18
SPEAKER_00: Perfect.
50:19
SPEAKER_00: And if you are around York, England, okay, if you ever get the pleasure, you should go visit Guy Fox Inn.
50:26
SPEAKER_01: Ooh, it's an inn.
50:28
SPEAKER_01: It's an inn.
50:29
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's like when we did our William Kidd episode, right?
50:32
SPEAKER_01: And there's the I think it is it called William Kidd Inn?
50:35
SPEAKER_01: The one that's right on the tank.
50:36
SPEAKER_00: That was like two years ago.
50:37
SPEAKER_00: I know that was a long time.
50:38
SPEAKER_00: I don't remember.
50:39
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, back to your story.
50:41
SPEAKER_00: Guy Fox Inn is the birthplace of Guy Fox in York, England.
50:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, in Stonegate, I think is what it's called.
50:48
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
50:48
SPEAKER_01: Really?
50:49
SPEAKER_01: Stonegate, York.
50:50
SPEAKER_01: Cool.
50:50
SPEAKER_01: It's like a suburb, I suppose.
50:52
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's haunted.
50:54
SPEAKER_00: And if you just like look up TripAdvisor Guy Fawkes, everyone's like, loved it, but too many ghosts.
50:59
SPEAKER_01: I loved it except for the ghostly part.
51:02
SPEAKER_00: Which I'm always like, okay, how do we know it's Guy Fox?
51:06
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
51:07
SPEAKER_00: But they say they hear laughter, and there's like stories, you know, all the typical things.
51:13
SPEAKER_01: There's like a jolly guy, right?
51:14
SPEAKER_00: He'd be a guy that's like.
51:15
SPEAKER_00: They said he was fun.
51:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:17
SPEAKER_00: Um, but they're like guests planned for the whole week, but they left in the middle of the night, the very first night.
51:22
SPEAKER_00: Like, there's just lots of stories like that.
51:25
SPEAKER_00: And I actually um didn't get to dive that deeply into some of the videos and comments and reviews and specifics.
51:33
SPEAKER_00: If you have any stories, I would love to hear your story.
51:36
SPEAKER_00: So let us know if you have any Guy Fawkes in stories.
51:40
SPEAKER_01: I would also think, like, me being Catholic, I feel like Catholics just hold a certain amount of guilt to where we do have a certain amount of unfinished business in the afterlife.
51:50
SPEAKER_01: So I think haunt me, aren't you?
51:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
51:52
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've already talked about it.
51:54
SPEAKER_01: And my mother will too.
51:55
SPEAKER_01: So were your mother, oh, your mother's gonna haunt you.
51:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna haunt you.
51:58
SPEAKER_01: She's gonna be a bad ghost.
51:59
SPEAKER_01: She's gonna be a poultry guy.
52:00
SPEAKER_01: Actually, very scary, your mother.
52:03
SPEAKER_01: I love her, but like scary ghost.
52:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, very scary ghost.
52:06
SPEAKER_00: She's gonna like make the bed for me, maybe.
52:09
SPEAKER_01: I think it's a Catholic thing where you just like hold on to so much like guilt and resentment and whatever your whole life.
52:14
SPEAKER_01: So when you're in death, you're like, okay, now's my chance.
52:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna really F with people.
52:19
SPEAKER_01: And uh I kind of look forward to that part, my life, or death rather.
52:25
SPEAKER_00: Elizabeth, your your go self.
52:28
SPEAKER_00: Does your go self have it have any final words?
52:31
SPEAKER_00: Ooh, not today.