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3 Guys Before The Game - Reinforcement Arrives (Episode 513) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Hi, everybody, welcome in. It is time four three guys before the
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  game. You probably knew that when you heard the theme music that's loved by
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  so many, but some don't like it. That's all right. What else
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  is new? Episode five and thirteen title? We struggled on the title.
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  Didn't know which way to go. I mean, I had a bunch of
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  ideas in my head and we're gonna settle on this one. Reinforcement arrives.
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  Reinforcement arrives whole. There's a lot of layers to that. What's that mean?
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  Well, if Kerkkrisa is the only Mountaineer basketball player who becomes eligible,
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  which he is now to play on Saturday, then reinforcement arrives could be singular.
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  If ray kwon Battle, Noah Ferakhon also join, then it's still reinforcement
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  arrives. You don't have to say reinforcements arrive. So I say all of
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  that to say this, we are in full CYA mode because we literally to
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  this moment, we're taping at three o'clock on Thursday afternoon. We don't know
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  because college athletic departments still don't know exactly how the NCAA is going to determine
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  eligibility based on everything that happened, what happened yesterday in the federal court in
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  Wheeling. And by that I mean potentially they could charge a student athlete with
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  using a year of eligibility if they in fact do play in this fourteen day
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  window before the next hearing takes place on the twenty seventh of December. How's
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  that fertise? It sounds as if, via some reporting that the NCAA isn't
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  quite sure what's happening with the tro and should players be eligible, So it's
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  it goes beyond the potential players affected, the potential teams and schools affected.
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  It might rise to the level of the actual organization itself isn't quite clear on
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  what's supposed to happen. Yeah, well, if they want to come and
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  do a strawhole here in West Virginia, they'll help them out with that.
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  They get something. Just go down, go down to Gomart, I guess
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  Just go to a go Mart and say, hey, what do you guys
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  if you have to print the approval letter out that says there'll be no repercussions,
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  and it has to be on official letterhead, right, the blue logo
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  there from the engine has to be on the letterhead. Yeah, come Mexican,
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  handle it. Or or if a federal judge, if a federal judge
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  sends them an email that they need to print and distribute, that says,
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  knock the crap off. I said, there's no punitive damage for the student
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  athlete if they play in the fourteen days. If he needs to send that,
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  you could print that on a cop didn't you, Judge Bailey say that
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  wasn't that clear in the order. Why Why is there confusion by the NCAA.
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  I think Judge Bailey did. His intentions were clear, I thought,
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  and much like Paul Revere, all right, the British are coming. The
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  British are coming. Lou Wendell Marine Cells also a strong advocate of eligibility.
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  They're taking pontoons right now, bringing them down the rivers and byways throughout West
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  Virginia, just just screaming at the top of their collective lungs. Buy an
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  Avalon try tune entertainer boat. It's a three guys special and eligibility for one,
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  eligibility for all right, that's a new tagline. Yeah, they're working
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  on that. Yeah. The lou Wendel Marine Sales not only do they provide
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  the boats for the James Bond series, they also provide all craft, all
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  pontoon boats for all eligibility cases, the official eligibility pontoon of three guys before
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  the game. Visit them, sat All, I'm confirming that. Well,
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  we've got people out there. They're busy right now trying to get this eligibility
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  thing figured out. And three guys also brought to us by the Conley CPE
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  group providing value beyond the numbers. We had lunch with those folks. We
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  know where they stand on this stuff. Had a great lunch. Yeah,
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  probably got too. They brought lunch and dessert. I bet you that gang
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  they go in there right now. If like the NCAA went to them like
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  Mike, Sam, you know everyone, they just would go like, we
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  got this taken care of. Here's how the numbers look on this. They're
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  eligible one one dot two dot three Post five will carry the six YEP.
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  Good to go, Conley Cpieger. We'll tell you later in the program what
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  the arrival of Kirk Careisa means analytically and statistically to a basketball game, specifically
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  to WVU, and we're going to get into the other guys too, might
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  give you what raykwon battle means, just in the event that the NCA shows
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  to its senses and approves everybody without retribution, right exactly, So let's jump
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  on in by now. If you're listening or watching this, I don't need
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  to start from the beginning of the week or yesterday's hearing and wheeling in which
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  Judge Charles Judge John Bailey issued a temporary restraining order that had an instant aftershock
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  throughout the college landscape, to the point where there were some student athletes who
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  did participate last night in games because they felt comfortable enough that there's a fourteen
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  day window here that they can play and there will be no retribution, retribution,
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  retribution, retribution by the nc DOLA. That's what we all thought yesterday
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  when he put that piece in there in regard to their restriction. However,
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  literally, as we record, and this could change seriously in the next sixty
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  minutes. Literally, they're waiting for the final clarification and well, obviously,
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  if it's if we're doing this, we'll say existally but here's you get a
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  feel if you just listen to this bite from earlier today from WVU coach Josh
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  Eiler as to the unknown so far that's facing WVU and other schools. Here's
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  what Josh had to say regarding are these student athletes in the waiver hold pattern
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  eligible to play without damaging their eligibility in the next fourteen days. Concerning yesterday,
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  you know, everyone saw the ruling that came out of the US District
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  Court. Really happy for Ray and the courage that it took for him to
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  pursue his eligibility status and stand up there on on you know, ass and
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  testify. So you heard me say all along that Rake and should be playing
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  basketball, and I truly believe that it's very important to him his mental health,
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  and I think he's met that criteria for immediate eligibility. And like the
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  statement we put out yesterday said, you know, we're consulting with our counsel
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  and an outside council before making a determination on the eligibility status of our you
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  know, student athletes that are affected as part of this decision. So we're
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  trying to get some of those questions answered. But unfortunately, I don't have
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  much to add outside of what we put out as a statement. And I
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  know I saw it last night that there's several schools I played their affected student
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  athletes and some had set them out. So we're still in limbo, and
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  I think there's a lot of schools out there still in limbo trying to figure
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  out what those answers and get those those questions they have answered. So fortunately
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  we don't play till Saturday, and we're hoping to get those answers sooner than
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  later. Just needs some more clarity more than anything, because we get to
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  you know, selfishly, we can sit here and think, you know,
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  they could really both of them could really help us, but we got to
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  think about the student athlete and how it affects their their overall eligibility. You
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  know, ray kwe's got one year of eligibility left. No has got two.
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  And so those conversations have to be had with those student athletes, their
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  families and our department to figure out what's best for them. And as you
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  know, us as a whole as a program, that's mainly the eligibility.
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  I mean, if we you know, even in the fourteen days we play
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  three games, if you know, the decision is overturned and they played during
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  this course of the season and they lose that year of eligibility. That doesn't
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  seem like we made the right decision by the student athlete. And so I
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  want all the facts to be laid out for everybody involved before we make those
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  decisions. I think that's just the right way to handle things and approach things.
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  All right, So there you go, and literally, since we played
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  that, we received this and we're doing this right live to tape. So
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  question of the nc DOUBLEA does the season of competition legislation apply if a student
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  athlete competes during the fourteen day temporary restraining order? The answer from the NCUBLEA,
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  yes, it does apply. The fourteen day tro only enjoined by Law
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  fourteen five point five one and does not change the season of competition legislation.
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  So that would that's a wow. First of all, that's a wow.
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  Yep. So this is literally again we're saying, well, this is three
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  o'clock in the afternoon. I'm wondering out loud if immediately they go back and
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  again, I don't know how this whole thing works. Do you go right
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  back to the court and say, what did you exactly mean, can you
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  just do and you say, like, what were you trying to say?
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  There? Can he? Can he make another I don't know, I don't
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  know. We'll find out. Yeah, far be it for me to speak
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  for Judge Bailey, But it does not seem that that was the intention of
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  intention of him specifically putting that piece into the order, that this would be
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  the result from the NCAA. Nicole Arback of the Athletic continues on some of
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  this reporting and says no schools will be penalized retroactively by vacating wins for playing
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  someone who is later to be deemed ineligible. But red shirt rules still apply,
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  and so here's an important distinction. In football, we know that you
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  can play up to four games and still keep your red shirt. Also another
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  bizarre rule in basketball, that's not the case. If you play at all,
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  the red shirt comes off. And that's what they're saying here. Red
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  shirt rules still apply, and in basketball you burn the red shirt the second
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  you play in a game. And that's the he'son of eligibility piece of legislation
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  that the NCAA claims is still in effect even after this court order. So
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  basically, what that means Tony now the player. It's back to the player
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  having to say, are you willing to risk a year of eligibility to play
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  in one, two or three games over this fourteen day period. That's a
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  really hard decision for a student athlete to have to make that call right now
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  without knowing whether this waiver will continue to exist or if it will get abolished
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  when the hearing comes up on the twenty seven. So that's where you're stuck.
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  You're back to. Maybe some players will say, I'm okay with it,
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  I'll roll the dice, let me play, and if it cost me
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  a year of an eligibility, so be it. But there's certainly going to
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  be others that aren't going to be willing to roll that dice. A.
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  That's an odd decision, isn't it. That seems an odd interpretation of the
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  ruining that came down yesterday. Yeah, it's super odd. All right,
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  So this is, as we say, this is fluid. I'm texting as
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  well some folks that would be involved as well. I want to see if
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  there's any clarification as to whether they can do anything on this. All right,
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  So real quick, one last second, this would seemingly create some pr
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  issues. I would think for the NCAA here, I think this isn't going
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  to be people are just going to say, eh, okay, I think
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  this is going to this. This is going to get loud here over the
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  next few hours. I think, mm hmm. It'll be really interesting to
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  see what happens here. Never born. So we do know this that kerk
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  Carisa will play for WUVU on Saturday against UMass. We'll talk about those numbers
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  and what that all means coming up in just a little bit. We can
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  either do this now, we'll do basketball now and then we'll do football.
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  But a consensus All American status, which is just off the chart thing for
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  WVU cornerback Beanie Bishop, the transfer from Minnesota, who has been racking up
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  All American honors over the last ten days two weeks. Today got another which
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  put him over the top. There is it five five. You got to
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  hit five specific ones to gain a consensus status and he did. And that's
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  that is the tall Tall Cotton. Pretty amazing story, pretty amazing story when
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  you go back and think about it. Here's a kid that hadn't been in
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  the program. He transfers in from Minnesota, let's say I think collectively the
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  back half of that defense really struggled early the Penn State game and the Dukene
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  game. Despite the score in the Dukene game, there were still some like
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  whoa, whoa things, but they fixed it and statistically he had himself a
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  year and he earns that honor. So congratulations to Beanie Bishop, and also
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  congratulations to Mike Montoro. And you might say, like, we who's Mike
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  Montoro? Well, these things don't happen just by people looking at the numbers.
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  You've got to have people out there stating your case for you. Mike
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  Montoro is the sports information director in charge of WVU football and he has had
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  great success through the years of shepherding players to get individual awards. So shout
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  out to Big Mike forgetting another one of these for an SID. This is
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  kind of like a silver bullet in your belt. It's like, that's a
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  big deal. This is the thirteenth consensus all American for Westralians don't have that
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  right in the first since Darius Still's got it. Just a couple of seasons
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  ago, you said it, what a remarkable story for Beanie Bishop and came
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  along at a at a time and at a position of real need. You
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  know, we sat here in August and said, Okay, who are your
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  starting corners going to be this year? What's that defensive backfield look like as
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  it gets rebuilt? And it was rebuilt in part with Beanie Bishop. Malachi
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  Ruffin was really good on the other side as well. But how about Beanie
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  Bishop comes in as a transfer and not only walks into a starting role,
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  which would have been great. That ends up all Big twelve would have been
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  great, ends up as an All American awesome, a consensus All American remarkable
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  at a position of real need this past year. All right, real quick,
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  back over to basketball. So I asked someone in the know, can
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  you go back to the judge now and get a clarification? He said,
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  the season of eligibility is a different by law that could not be attacked in
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  this temporary restraining order. So in other words, it's in if I'm reading
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  that correctly, they can do what they're saying because it wasn't specifically in that
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  temporary restraint. So this is where I would go back to. And we're
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  addressing this in real time here, so bear with me. But that would
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  seem to me the judge specifically issued that order so that there wouldn't be penalties.
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  They now are saying that the NCAA they won't penalize the school and vacate
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  wins, but they'll still go after the player's eligibility. Potentially, that seems
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  to be at odds for what your intent. You're not going to go after
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  the school in terms of a vacated win, but you're still going to affect
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  their eligibility. This would seem to me one of those cases where if you're
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  the NCAA, you might want to just say you know what for fourteen days
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  or not sure, or let me ask you. This does this thumbing of
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  the nose at the court, because if that was Judge Bailey's intent to not
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  to have them be punished, If the NCAA is thumbing their nose at the
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  court right now saying we don't care, they're gonna lose Navy now on the
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  twenty seventh of December, you think that might pertain into the judges ruling.
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  I don't know how that works. I would think it would. I don't
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  know how it couldn't. Or does the NCAA already know they lost? Maybe,
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  but this is another This seems to me to be another example of when
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  the NCAA takes its rules and has to speak to a broader audience about its
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  rules. The court cases of showing people go, what are you talking about?
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  What you can't do? That rule? You can't do that. This
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  would seem to me to be one of those times when you go, what
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  what do you What do you mean? You're still going to try and penalize
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  the kids. We just have an order to said, don't penalize them,
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  let them play. This seems to be this is an unusual that's a nice
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  word, an unusual ruling or clarification from the nca right now. Okay,
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  keep an eye on that. This one stuns me. You know, this
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  would be one thing if this was just regular sports line, because it just
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  kind of gets flushed pretty quick. But this show is going to last for
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  a long time. Like we might come out of this looking really really dumb,
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  maybe like six months from now, when people go back and listen to
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  that mailman down in Southernwest Virginia. He goes back and listens man, were
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  those guys off on it? Very well? Could be? Yeah, very
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  well, could be? All right, So this is what we know Kirk
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  Cariese is playing on Saturday, first time this season. Yes, game number
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  with Kirkriesa, here's what's going to change. No, I thought to do
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  it a couple of ways. First, let's talk Crisa in particular what he
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  brings to this team. Then we can get into a UMass scouting report on
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  what they like to do. So we'll do it kind of in two parts.
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  Ready, Yeah, I'm good. So let's talk Cresas specifically and what
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  West Virginia gets back with him in the lineup. And it's a guy Tony
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  who said this a bunch. He's gonna look to pass. He's a true
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  pass first point guard and really does so effortlessly. It's not a guy that
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  has to think about his passes. And we watched practice the other day.
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  What'd you say when we walked out of there were three or four passes that
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  he made that you just haven't haven't seen. You don't see very often.
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  He's able to find guys cutting, move into the basket, great eye,
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  he's gonna distribute the ball really well. Led the Pac twelve and assist.
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  We know that. We've talked about that a bunch. Here's some deep numbers.
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  He assisted last year at Arizona on twenty six percent of his teammates baskets
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  last season, which is in the upper five or so guys in the Pac
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  twelve. That's a big number. Nearly one third of the possessions he was
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  on the floor ended in an assist. That's in the ninety six percentile.
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  Last year while playing at Arizona, he was nearly two to one assist to
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  turnover ratio for a guy that led Arizona in usage rate. So he was
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  on the floor a lot, he had the ball a ton, and he
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  was still a two to one assist to turnover ratio. So I think instantly,
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  ball movement, ability to find guys that are open, ability to draw
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  defense in kick to open guys. Krisa helps that immediately when he hits the
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  floor. Here's the other part though, for this particular West Virginia team.
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  You're gonna need him to score for you as well. We know Wes Virginia
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  needs scoring help, specifically shooting help. Now he'll take threes. Seventy eight
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  percent of his field goal attempts last year were threes, and he hit a
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  really nice thirty seven percent of those. So he'll shoot the three, and
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  he can make the three. That's gonna help West Virginia and benefit with an
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  additional outside shooter that is mixed into this lineup. Here's another area where Cresa
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  should help. I'm anxious to watch this pick and rolls take on a little
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  different feel. Can I say something? Sure, I've never been more excited
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  or amped up about a pick and roll in my life. I mean,
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  because I've seen a couple of them in practice and it's like, who,
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  it's basketball symphony. It's a different deal. Last year at Arizona, this
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  was Crease's most frequent play type. It was also the most frequent play type
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  when he played for Estonia last year. He likes the pick and roll and
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  it makes a lot of sense. Right, you're gonna get Jesse Edwards,
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  a big, You're gonna bring him up. You're going to take a ball
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  handling pass first point guard in Cresa and let him go to work. Now
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  make the defense make a decision. What are you going to do. You're
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  gonna come off Edwards and try and stop Crisa, allowing Edwards a path to
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  the basket Lob's become available. You're going to stay on Edwards and let Crisa
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  try and get by you. Now add into this play this out. Those
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  are two good options. Either he takes a shot Crisa does or gives Edwards.
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  What's the other option, He goes by you and you have to come
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  help A help defender comes off the wing, kick it. Quinn Slazynski should
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  get some open looks off a kick off a pick and roll. So I
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  think West Virginia, which hasn't done a ton of that this year, just
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  got a new play type put back into its offense because of the skill set
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  of Kerk Creesy here. I think this is big. Yeah, I do
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  too. That's a huge part of the game. Now let's also talk about
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  physical conditioning. I know you have more numbers coming up. Well, we
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  were talking about this, like what is the realistic numberumber of minutes that he
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  could or should be expected to play since he hasn't played well. He has
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  practiced, okay, so he is going up and down the floor, up
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  and down the floor. But there is a significant difference between practice and games.
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  As Allen Iverson was say, I mean, we're talking about practice.
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  What changes your adrenaline changes because it's not you playing against your teammates, it's
• 24:22
  real game competition. There's people in the crowd. Normally there are people in
• 24:27
  the crowd, there's people in the stands, and everything gets amped up,
• 24:32
  including you're adrenaline. So when you're adrenaline starts to get higher and spikes,
• 24:37
  your respiration increases. Everything changes. So that's not to say that he can't
• 24:44
  play. You know, I don't know thirty minutes, but perhaps the first
• 24:48
  time he goes out there, it might be for a shorter period. If
• 24:53
  he starts, I don't know, but early on in the game, I
• 24:56
  would imagine he will be amped and you're probably not going to get the flow
• 25:02
  of regular that you're going to see from him as the seasonal. So maybe
• 25:04
  you have the water bottle ready when that adrenaline kicks and then craters get him
• 25:07
  a little drinking it back, And it's a good point but I think it
• 25:11
  lends that discussion lends itself to the next piece of this is, let's talk
• 25:15
  about what this does for Kobe Johnson, a guy that has gone from not
• 25:18
  used a whole lot to your main guys played the most minutes on the team
• 25:22
  so far, and it's performed pretty well. One of three guys in double
• 25:26
  figures, he himself with a nearly two to one assist to turnover ratio.
• 25:30
  So does this make Kobe Johnson even more effective? Because theoretically you're going to
• 25:36
  lessen his minute load, which should allow him to go even harder in the
• 25:40
  time that he's in there. You heard Josh talk about it the other night
• 25:42
  on the postgame radio show. He talked about maybe this allows Kobe Johnson to
• 25:45
  focus a little more defensively on the other team's best guard because you're not as
• 25:51
  worried about foul trouble, about wearing him out as much because he doesn't have
• 25:55
  to run the offense like he has up to this point. So you'd like
• 25:59
  to think, as much as you've got out of Kobe Johnson so far,
• 26:00
  you're going to continue to use him and add some depth. But does it
• 26:03
  even help Johnson more because he's not required to play thirty nine and a half
• 26:07
  minutes. I truly think it does. How had it not right? I
• 26:11
  truly think that he and again I haven't talked with him. I haven't,
• 26:15
  but I would think he feels that his role now is best better suited for
• 26:23
  him than having to be the guy that's carrying the whole thing on his shoulders.
• 26:29
  I think now he can kind of say, Okay, I know my
• 26:32
  niche, I know what I got to do here. I can be productive.
• 26:33
  And he's gained some confidence. There's no doubt he feels a lot better
• 26:37
  about his game than he may have over the last couple years. All right,
• 26:40
  keep going, play it forward. Seth Wilson's role Now, You've had
• 26:42
  to ask Seth Wilson to handle the ball a bunch over those first nine games,
• 26:45
  which probably isn't ideal for Seth. Now he goes back into a role
• 26:51
  where you can rely on him to hunt shots a little bit more. Run
• 26:53
  some sets for Seth Wilson like you did early in that game when he came
• 26:57
  in, and you get a guy back that can get red hot from the
• 27:00
  outside as a shooter. So maybe because you're not asking Seth Wilson to do
• 27:04
  so many things offensively, and he gets back to more his niche of being
• 27:08
  a shooter. Maybe you're outside shooting increases because of that as well. So
• 27:12
  I think there's some ripple effects to Creasa, not just the obvious depth and
• 27:17
  talent that he brings, but freeing up a couple of other guys that had
• 27:19
  to do a little more than you would normally ask them. They can go
• 27:22
  back to their more natural roles. Yeah, makes sense, makes sense.
• 27:29
  I told you the show's fluid, right, you got more news, Yeah,
• 27:34
  because I've got, as you well know, I've got. I got
• 27:37
  a problem with the tension. Yeah, I'll be honest, I haven't been
• 27:41
  listening to yet. I knew because I wanted to see what I wanted to
• 27:45
  see what was going on out there after this came out from the nc double
• 27:48
  A, and so a couple of people that I follow, obviously Ross Dellinger.
• 27:56
  He writes, the NCAA provides clarity on lingering issue. An athlete who
• 28:00
  competes in a game over the next fourteen days will lose a season of eligibility.
• 28:04
  If the court's ruling is reversed, then it counts, and then he
• 28:10
  goes on to say an important note here, Like any NCAA decision or rule
• 28:18
  around an active court case, the judge will have an interpretation in this matter,
• 28:26
  which is what I was saying, like, I can't do it right.
• 28:27
  I think I stated it less eloquently by saying, can't you go to
• 28:32
  the judge and ask him exactly? And then mit winter of Winter sports law.
• 28:37
  He's a really good follow because he played at William and Mary and he
• 28:40
  is into this space. He said. If this is what he said,
• 28:45
  the NCAA now says a multi time transfer who plays during the fourteen day tro
• 28:49
  uses a year of eligibility if the order is reversed. That's what the NCAA
• 28:52
  is saying. He comes back and says this would essentially be mooted made quiet
• 28:57
  by entry of a preliminary in junct on twenty seven of December, since it
• 29:00
  would likely be in place for months. Then he says, this court probably
• 29:06
  will weigh in here. Yeah, because the court. I think, as
• 29:11
  we were saying, right, isn't the court gonna say hold on here?
• 29:14
  That was not our intention? Yeah, And as we record, Judge Bailey's
• 29:18
  probably in the office now, I mean he might I don't know listening.
• 29:22
  He might be over there at figure out he's getting the late line. She
• 29:23
  could be over there at the Coleman Fish Place getting something over there right,
• 29:27
  maybe down there at the Hold and Run Eric Stake and maybe getting a new
• 29:30
  pair of jogging shoes are up there, but someone he might get a phone
• 29:33
  call says judge, can you come back in here? And they need a
• 29:36
  little clarification on exactly what you meant. So again, it's Thursday afternoon.
• 29:40
  The good news is West Virginia doesn't play tonight, and they don't play tomorrow,
• 29:45
  and the players in question travel regardless. All you have to do is
• 29:48
  Kyle Kessler, the equipment guy. He just needs to make sure that he
• 29:52
  he just brings their uniform I was just gonna say, make sure the uniforms
• 29:55
  packed and your shoes are packed and ready to go. Kyle, Kyle,
• 29:57
  have those in there. Kyle have those in there. He's absolutely Okay,
• 30:02
  go ahead. I'll pay attention. So should I save my ray kwon battle?
• 30:04
  No numbers later? No, you want to talk about what he gives,
• 30:07
  I'll just get how about I just give a couple I'm an optimistic person.
• 30:11
  I'm an optimistic person. I just have a feeling that these seven attorneys
• 30:17
  general are going to go back and go what I tend to agree this This
• 30:22
  will surprise me if they're able to keep the penalty legislation in there. It
• 30:26
  really well. And again, as you said, you may listen to this
• 30:27
  in two days and go, you clowns. Didn't know what you were talking
• 30:30
  about. Okay, fine. You ever watch on odd You ever you ever
• 30:33
  watch on YouTube's those videos that say bully got Bully gets owned? You ever
• 30:40
  watch those like the guy walks up, he's a bully, he's gonna beat
• 30:42
  someone up, Like I just think like he picks the wrong guy. Yeah,
• 30:45
  the NC double A is like Bully gets owned here pretty soon because I
• 30:48
  think they're coming out going like, oh yeah, you're gonna lose your eligibility
• 30:52
  and just go like oh really here, good thanks for having us agree this
• 30:57
  might this will be a thanks for having us. Okay, all right,
• 31:00
  let's do a little raykon battle just in anticipation. If he is available for
• 31:06
  Saturday and does play, you say, would you say you were the more
• 31:08
  excited for a pick and roll than you've ever been? Yeah? I've never
• 31:11
  been more. I now listen I'm a big fan of it. The back
• 31:14
  door cut in the pick and roll. Yeah, those are art and basketball,
• 31:18
  and yeah, I've been hyped up. I've been hyped up to watch
• 31:22
  Kirk Reese and Jesse Edwards pick and roll. You know who's really good as
• 31:26
  a pick and roll ball handler as well? Who that that'd be one?
• 31:30
  Raykwon Battle. He likes it too. He does it too, and he
• 31:33
  brings a little different element. And as I'll get into he's a really good
• 31:37
  mid range two point type of guy. Likes to get to the rim,
• 31:41
  likes to hit the two. Now you put some more stress on the defense
• 31:44
  there as you start to decide are you hedging this screen? What are you
• 31:47
  going to do with this? And he just pulls up from you from the
• 31:48
  elbow and knocks one in. So keep an eye on him. He's also
• 31:52
  very good off of screens, something West Virginia hasn't done a ton of this
• 31:56
  year, but can when Battle gets back in. Here's what's also interesting about
• 31:59
  his game last year. Now, keep last year's stats in check here,
• 32:05
  because he was likely the best player on the floor most of the time,
• 32:07
  so some of this may be bout he is nearly dead even when he drives
• 32:12
  left or right, he can go either way. So how do you want
• 32:15
  to guard him? You want to try and force into one side for whatever,
• 32:16
  I'll go the other way dead even which way he goes. Again,
• 32:20
  very good in the mid range game. Likes to go to the rim,
• 32:22
  can pull up in the paint, and then can hit from all spots.
• 32:25
  Again, it makes sense for a guy that can go left or right every
• 32:29
  spot, every zone you identify inside the three point line, he's good from.
• 32:32
  He's going to give you a really good two point mid range game.
• 32:37
  Here's where I think if you want to push ahead and look at style of
• 32:39
  offense with Kresa and if battle comes back, even if it's for just a
• 32:45
  couple of games, you become such more diverse and difficult to prepare for.
• 32:52
  So not only can you get in and run more sets we just talked about
• 32:54
  off screen pick and roll takes a step up with both these guys. How
• 32:58
  about your late clock shot clock game situations. Here, you get down to
• 33:02
  the final few seconds of a shot clock and you're having trouble. Ray Kwon
• 33:06
  battles the kind of guy Give me the ball and get out of the way.
• 33:07
  I'll get a good shot for you in the final four seconds of the
• 33:09
  clock, So that improves You know why, He's got great elevation, so
• 33:16
  from wherever he is on the floor, he's one of those dudes that he
• 33:20
  can just go straight up, elevate wonderfully and he can get a shot.
• 33:25
  Here's what elsis. Does you know who else this helps if you get both
• 33:29
  of them back and never mind no affairic on. I mean, that's a
• 33:31
  whole other element that we'll talk about later. But you could potentially be with
• 33:36
  three guys that you didn't have that are all very good, not just bodies,
• 33:38
  but very good. You know who else is helped by this? Two
• 33:43
  guys in particular, but one I think stands above the rest. That's really
• 33:45
  helped Jesse Edwards get some people off him in the inside defense has to come
• 33:51
  out and guard these other players. Jesse Edwards should be able to cook inside
• 33:54
  with not so much even posts up one on one, but how about his
• 33:58
  ability to get to the offense glass when defenders are drawn away from the basket.
• 34:01
  So these two are potentially really massive. Here's the last part. If
• 34:07
  you're able to get both of these guys, it now gives you with Cresa
• 34:10
  and if battle becomes eligible scores at all three levels. On the floor you
• 34:15
  add a three point shooter and Kurk Crease and not that Raykwon can't hit him,
• 34:19
  but that's not his main game. Crisa adds another shooter. Ray Kwon
• 34:22
  gives you a deadly mid range pull up game, and I get to the
• 34:24
  basket, drive to the hoop type of guy. And now Jesse Edwards is
• 34:29
  freed up inside to work inside the poster. Right at the rim, all
• 34:32
  three levels you're equipped with a high level big twelve player. Now, yeah,
• 34:37
  pretty good, Yeah, absolutely right. You did a nice job on
• 34:40
  me. Thank you. Very excited about these two being back in as you
• 34:44
  can tell happy here today or uh yeah, is he not over there?
• 34:47
  I didn't notice not here there? It is once again an empty sea on
• 34:52
  assignment. Yeah, all right, you want a couple of quick UMass things
• 34:58
  while we're here. Do we have other breaking news in the last This is
• 35:01
  good, I mean, this is all good stuff. Go ahead, all
• 35:04
  right, let's talk to you Mass specifically for a second. You're gonna get
• 35:07
  a minute Man minute Men team. This is the highest rated Ken Palm team
• 35:13
  that U MASS has played this year, so their best win is against one
• 35:16
  thirty eight and the Ken Palm ratings UMass lowl West Virginia comes in around that
• 35:21
  one twenty eight mark. Watch a good big on big matchup. We've said
• 35:24
  this now a couple of times. Yeah, six' ten Josh Cohen eighteen
• 35:28
  points eight rebounds for UMass going against Jesse Edwards, So that'll be fun to
• 35:31
  watch. This won't surprise you from a Frank Martin team. Twentieth nationally in
• 35:37
  offensive rebounding, so they're gonna get on the offensive glass. But here's what
• 35:42
  you watch for West Virginia. They give those up to the opponent three hundredth
• 35:46
  nationally. On the defensive rebounding side, West Virginia should be able to sneak
• 35:51
  in there get some putback situations. UMass so far very good guarding the two
• 35:55
  twenty fourth nationally and opponent field goal per se. So if battle is eligible
• 36:01
  in plays, watch that particular matchup. Mid range type shots going against their
• 36:07
  defense. Here's a key u MASS should put West Virginia on the line.
• 36:10
  Yes, they're three hundred and thirty fourth nationally in opponent free throw rate.
• 36:16
  So we've talked a bunch over the last few years this year included didn't happen
• 36:21
  against Drexel, but West Virginia has been getting to the free throw line.
• 36:23
  A bunch UMass should put you on the line as well, all right,
• 36:29
  go to some specifics for UMSS. Offensively, they're very good at the pick
• 36:34
  and roll game. You would expect that with a good big right, So
• 36:37
  keep an eye on that. One point four points per possession when they go
• 36:39
  into a pick and roll. That's very good. They score sixty three percent
• 36:44
  of the time when they go to that set. Now they haven't ran at
• 36:46
  a ton, they haven't gone to that a ton, but they're very effective
• 36:50
  when they do it. They'd like to post up and they want to get
• 36:52
  to the rim. Forty percent of their shot attempts are at the rim.
• 36:55
  Fifty percent of their points come in the paint. You would expect that when
• 37:00
  they're leading. Scores are big, so keep an eye on the paint.
• 37:01
  Matchup may determine the winner tomorrow or Saturday. Yeah, good point and throw
• 37:07
  in the fact add this one in here. A cook a cook right,
• 37:10
  playing two hours away from home. It's from New Hampshire. I've never been
• 37:15
  to New Hampshire. It's one of the few states I haven't been to.
• 37:16
  Haven't been to Maine, Vermont or New Hampshire up in that piece. You've
• 37:22
  been to those three? You're light in New England. Yeah, and the
• 37:24
  Dakota is too. Where haven't you been? I've been to both Dakota's.
• 37:27
  Where have you been? Not in New England? Vermont? Haven't no Maine,
• 37:31
  No, No, New Hampshire, No mean either now. And that's
• 37:36
  especially a batter I lived. I lived in New England there for a couple
• 37:37
  years. Didn't get to any of this. Yeah. Anyway, so he's
• 37:40
  two hours away where he's from in New Hampshire, and he's a defensive presence
• 37:45
  obviously, and so that also helps West Virginia where they hadn't been down low
• 37:52
  in the previous games before his return. Yeah, you're right. And two
• 37:54
  different options with their big with umasses good big. You either have a second
• 38:00
  really long, tall defender in a Cook helping out Edwards which makes it really
• 38:05
  difficult on their big or if Edwards has to come out either for a break
• 38:08
  or foul trouble, you can still bring in another guy that can match him
• 38:12
  length and size. Y See, I think we talked about it on Monday.
• 38:15
  A cook gives you a ton, a ton of options, and as
• 38:17
  he continues to play his way into shape, you'll see him get more and
• 38:21
  more minutes I talked to him earlier this week. You know he's got a
• 38:24
  unique name. Right twice it's a cook of cook, and it just makes
• 38:30
  you want to say a cook of cooked. I think I'll always say it
• 38:32
  together. I thought, I always give you a cook of cook. Yeah.
• 38:36
  So I asked him about that, So where did it come from?
• 38:39
  Apparently grandfather he was born in Egypt, came to the United States when he
• 38:44
  was ten months old or in Cairo, and so he's raised here in the
• 38:49
  United States believes it was his grandfather was a cook, a cook. And
• 38:52
  I says, so what do you like? What should I call you here?
• 38:57
  And so it varies and ak ak he responds well to that, and
• 39:06
  also just take the aw off, just call him cook. Josh goes with
• 39:10
  the cook a lot. Josh Eilert gives you a lot of cook, yeah,
• 39:14
  cook. So he's good with either of those. And I said,
• 39:16
  how about if I say, we still continue to say a cook a cook
• 39:20
  though, just because I like saying it, or no, I think I
• 39:22
  will I get caught into that nick you got. Think about it. Really,
• 39:24
  you got a jojo and then a cook of cook you don't find you
• 39:28
  don't come across a double. I that's that's like Siamese twins. And he
• 39:32
  I said, how about if I say a cook, a cook is cooking?
• 39:35
  So I like that. So I said, well cook, and I'll
• 39:37
  let I'll say it cook. If you're a business owner, you ever get
• 39:43
  bummed out when some of your folks that you work for you say, well,
• 39:46
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• 39:51
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  today, Comas Business Systems. That was really good. By the way,
• 40:31
  kind of numbers are numbers just so much variance into what you're doing today.
• 40:35
  I mean, you don't know who's eligible, who's not eligible, who's going
• 40:37
  to play. They're gonna play this year're not gonna play this year. I
• 40:38
  think you can see though, what it does is what you would think,
• 40:42
  right, Sometimes we take these numbers and we're down in the weeds. Now
• 40:44
  let's back up and look at it from up above. It clearly gives you
• 40:47
  just so many more options, especially offensively, never mind the defensive side,
• 40:52
  but just offensively from bodies and substitution, just different types of sets you can
• 40:55
  run. So the hope would be get increase of backs big hopefully you can
• 41:00
  see those other guys play as well, even if it's in a short term
• 41:02
  situation. Why are you wincing? I'm just about to say it'd be nice
• 41:07
  if you could get them both back, and as it's coming out of my
• 41:08
  mouth, you're wincing. Well, it wasn't the wins of malice or displeasure.
• 41:15
  It was as you said, what did you say earlier? You said,
• 41:17
  I think this thing in the next couple of hours is going to get
• 41:20
  juicy. Yeah, yeah, okay, So people are coming out firing now,
• 41:22
  right, yeah, yeh. Patrick Morrissey has come out and he says,
• 41:29
  based on the NCAA's belief that they can kill a kid's eligibility for a
• 41:35
  year if they play in these fourteen days from his formerly known as Twitter account,
• 41:39
  now x, this is ridiculous and completely contrary to the spirit of the
• 41:45
  court's order and let the kids play. How brutal can you be to these
• 41:50
  student athletes? So apparently Judge Bailey where I mean, whether he's at Figs,
• 41:58
  whether he's over at Coleman's, wherever he is. This might be just
• 42:00
  heading home or something. Do you gotta have a call and get him back.
• 42:04
  He might need those running shoes from Eric Stay, come over at hole
• 42:06
  and run to run it down and clarify this thing. Yeah, I'm just
• 42:12
  right. We opened the show with it. This just see, it's one
• 42:15
  of those things. Say it out loud. There's no way that was the
• 42:19
  intention was to further penalize these potential to these student athletes if they play.
• 42:24
  There's no way that was the answer. Well, if we keep going here
• 42:28
  long enough, we'll have we'll come full circle on the whole show. Well,
• 42:30
  the reason I'm hesitant a little bit to say common sense will prevail is
• 42:37
  because I have Yeah, I've got I've got OURSS. Excuse me, I've
• 42:45
  got self diagnosed RSS. It's called replay stress syndrome. Every time in a
• 42:52
  game football or basketball where they go to the replay monitor, I'll look at
• 42:54
  the plane and go, well, there's no question like hey's out of bounds,
• 42:58
  or the ball hit the cylinder and didn't hit the so there's shock line
• 43:00
  like I'm like one for two seventy two on the season, and so that's
• 43:06
  why I'm kind of holding myself back going on like it's common sense. Yeah,
• 43:09
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• 43:13
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  don't think it can be divided up as smoothly as the big giant recy cup.
• 45:27
  Oh no, no way, It's a whole different animal. It's more
• 45:30
  it'd be more and more organic than that. Later in the program, wait,
• 45:35
  you see these reces. I never saw this. We've got a picture
• 45:37
  the way. We are big fans of M and MS too. Oh yeah,
• 45:39
  well documented we're also a favor. We're also fans of Harry and David
• 45:44
  Pears. Rick Cher, thank you brother, he said, we got nine
• 45:49
  more of those, Harry and David Pears. Where where are they? Where
• 45:52
  are you hiding them upstairs? Did you take the gold wrapped one? Oh?
• 45:54
  You know who did? Already got it again? Loman Dan, the
• 46:00
  Emmy Award winner, walked in my office and said, could I have a
• 46:01
  pair? I said, yeah, I have a pair? No problem.
• 46:05
  You think you think which ones? He winning? Right for the Shining Special.
• 46:07
  He took the gold foil the pair. I mean, that's not his
• 46:12
  style normally. It's normally not his style. He's normally back back. We're
• 46:15
  gonna say. Kerchival reappeared for about ten minutes to steal this foil one.
• 46:19
  And see you didn't see that. I was surprised to see. Well kirching
• 46:23
  bomb. All right, so you ready to do some stuff here? What
• 46:25
  do you say we do a little little, little, little little textual healing.
• 46:29
  Yeah, and I'm trying to uh three guys before the game. Textual
• 46:52
  healing brought to us by episode eight hundred dot Com Episode eight hundred dot com
• 46:55
  Christmas quickly approaching. That still that still means you still have opportunity, I
• 47:00
  know on certain things. We said, hey, to make sure one thousand
• 47:02
  percent that by the Christmas time a day that you have your stuff ordered before
• 47:08
  December the tenth. That is true. That is true. However, I
• 47:13
  mean it's not to say that. Now. There's probably a good chance you're
• 47:16
  still going to get stuff before Christmas, but we now we can't guarantee it,
• 47:20
  but there's still a pretty good chance, right, So you still order.
• 47:23
  Dave was here earlier, our guy, and he said, yeah,
• 47:25
  you could still order. They're going to make a Star City delivery of popcorn
• 47:30
  I think like every day this week. Yeah, I think he was on
• 47:32
  his way over when we talked to him. So things are going out today.
• 47:35
  So you can still order stuff, and look, if it doesn't come
• 47:37
  before Christmas, that's cool because like you can just say, hey, I
• 47:40
  bought this for New Year's for you. That works just as well as a
• 47:44
  random nice guess, a random gift. Visit episode eight hundred dot com.
• 47:47
  All of our stuff foods caught boy, the coffee's going well, coffee's going
• 47:52
  on. Fact, had a friend I think Luke's got this picture. Had
• 47:55
  a friend that was over there this morning Thursday. Over the rest of these.
• 47:59
  He had just reached the shelf with the supply of throat. That's a
• 48:01
  really good picture. The corner too, it's well done, really nice.
• 48:06
  So there was some he just he just puts some more out in packaging.
• 48:08
  It's on the shelves there at Mountain Roasting here in Morgantown. I've said this
• 48:12
  once and I'll say it again. Then we'll get into these textual things.
• 48:14
  But I was having a mountaineer I was having our game day grind this morning.
• 48:16
  Hold on, real quick, what's that is that? Like oats?
• 48:20
  Oats on the right? You get that's something you'd eat? Is there like
• 48:22
  oats with fruit in there? Yeah? It does look like yogurt, right
• 48:24
  fruit. Yeah. But I was drinking the coffee this morning and just forgetting
• 48:30
  what I was drinking, just drinking, and I went like, man,
• 48:35
  this is really good. And I went, oh, it's our coffee.
• 48:37
  It's good. Gah me, it's a it's a very just like the beer,
• 48:43
  the Kurze veil. It's very drinkable. Yeah, very good. Yeah,
• 48:45
  that's what my friend pointed out. Has those hints of chocolate and caramel
• 48:50
  in there, just together, just the hints. Well, you mix chocolate
• 48:52
  and caramel together, you can't go wrong exactly. By the way, do
• 48:55
  you need me to read these so you can keep an eye and see if
• 48:58
  Judge Bailey has re n come in. Why don't you do this? You
• 49:01
  start looking at the phone and I'll do these. Hey, three guys question,
• 49:06
  this is Jr And Elkview. Who is exactly the NC double A and
• 49:10
  who gives them the authority over the schools and players? Do the schools ads
• 49:15
  get any say in their rules? Also, with current failures of the NC
• 49:19
  double A, do you see the conferences separating? Thanks for answering, Jr.
• 49:22
  And Oakview. So it's a good fair question. Who exactly is the
• 49:27
  NCUBA the NC DOUBLEA. The members are the schools. They are the schools.
• 49:34
  The people that create the rules are the presidents and yes, the athletic
• 49:38
  directors in concert with their presidents as to what they feel is needed. So
• 49:44
  the members are the schools. Do the schools ads get to say in the
• 49:49
  rules? Yeah? The ads will ads will give their thoughts and opinions to
• 49:52
  their leadership of the schools, and sometimes the ads go into these meetings,
• 49:58
  and sometimes it's the presidents that in these meetings, but ultimately it's the schools
• 50:02
  that make the rules and the schools that vote on the rules. With the
• 50:07
  current failures of the NCAA, do you see the conferences separating? Potentially they
• 50:14
  are trying for that not to happen in a self survival mode. Charlie Baker,
• 50:19
  the head of the NCAA, just last week, issued a letter of
• 50:22
  what the future could look like, in which the big schools from the power
• 50:27
  conferences would have their own separate set of rules and abide by their own rules
• 50:34
  that would pertain and be safer and better for them because there are a lot
• 50:38
  of institutions in these power conferences that have no comparison whatsoever to lower level schools
• 50:44
  that financially can't stay up with them, and as a result, they vote
• 50:47
  against things that the big schools want because the smaller schools don't have the money,
• 50:52
  and so the big schools get upset. And that's why the NCAA is
• 50:58
  saying, okay, you guys breaking away, Let's try this. We'll create
• 51:01
  a whole separate world for you guys, and you can have your own rules.
• 51:07
  Texter. Beautiful views in Burlington, Kaiser, New Creek, Elk Garden
• 51:13
  Fountain, a natural spring right down the hill from Coach Byser's parents' house.
• 51:16
  My grandma was a buyser. I'd love to take you guys back on a
• 51:20
  back road tour. Nancy Hanks Cottage, the Pinnacle, Saddle Mountain, Jennings,
• 51:24
  Randolph Lake, etc. Etc. Yeah, we're in for that.
• 51:28
  We'll have to wait till the winter's over. We don't travel in the cold,
• 51:31
  Texter. Tony's assumption is correct. December eighth the earliest sunset of the
• 51:37
  year, while the daylight time continues to decrease as the sunrise is advanced for
• 51:40
  another two weeks. So. By the way, I cannot remember how many
• 51:45
  longs and shorts were our ring, but I do recall our home phone number
• 51:47
  was Warwood one oh eight m. Our nearest neighbor was Warwood one oh eight
• 51:52
  R. We could ask the number please operated a ring R on the line
• 51:55
  to get a host of them one digit dialing Alan from Amory very nice Ben
• 52:01
  to Amarillo once for basketball with the women's team back in the nineteen eighties,
• 52:06
  saw a guy at a seventy two ounce steak which was really a small roast.
• 52:09
  You eat that roast steak, you get it for free. Dude took
• 52:14
  it down in Amarillo. Hello Texter, Three guys. I'm befuddled as a
• 52:22
  kid that was born in Taulcot, West Virginia nineteen seventy eight, grew up
• 52:24
  there, played basketball baseball for the Talcott Junior High Pirates, which my parents
• 52:30
  still live there. I'm beside myself that two thirds of you could not pronounce
• 52:35
  Talcott correctly. Thank you to the gentleman senator from Iowa who knew how to
• 52:39
  and the lone West Virginia in the room didn't know where Talkott was. Are
• 52:44
  you kidding me? John Henry, the steel driving Man legend took place there,
• 52:49
  Not in Hinton Talcott pronounced Talcut and it's one word, say it fast,
• 52:53
  Tallcut. Home of the Pirates, Greenbrier River, Big Ben Tunnel.
• 53:00
  John Henry Days takes place there every June. Home of the best mountaineer fans
• 53:04
  in southern West Virginia, the most sneezed in and coughed in pocket Hanky's around
• 53:08
  love the show. Thank you for keeping his life long Mountaineer fan in the
• 53:12
  note from Tampa to now Columbia, South Carolina, by the way of Talcott,
• 53:16
  West Virginia. There you go, shout out Talcott. F Yi,
• 53:24
  Tony Stephen, not cal What I was talking about last episode. That's called
• 53:29
  a Harold trumpet. Remember I said we should get one of those guys,
• 53:32
  a man that drops down. That's called a Harold trumpet. Okay, good,
• 53:36
  learn something, thank you. So maybe he'll blow that horn once or
• 53:38
  maybe he'll blow it thrice on Saturday. Texter. I mean, if we
• 53:45
  get this eligibility thing taken care of, I mean I'd like to see Ray
• 53:47
  Coon battle take off on his first fast break, dribbling in one hand and
• 53:52
  playing one of those trumpets. What are they call it a Harold trumpet?
• 53:57
  It makes sense why they would call it a Harold trumpet because your heralding something
• 54:00
  coming, Texter. Please have Quinn Slezinski on the podcast. He's the best
• 54:05
  player interview we've had in many years. Slightly edging out Coach Stevenson. That
• 54:09
  is, yeah, we could probably do that, Texter. Breakfast recommendation for
• 54:17
  the folks going to Charlotte's called snooze. What's not to like? Breakfast and
• 54:23
  booze. Try the sweet potato pancakes. They're the bomb. Got a lot
• 54:28
  of food recommendations for Charlotte. Text from Ryan P. Seven listener your friendly
• 54:36
  neighborhood veterinary or veterinarian originally from We're now in Covington, Kentucky. There you
• 54:43
  go, hey, three guys. I sent an unhappy text after the Oklahoma
• 54:47
  State game when I was frustrated. It seems now that coach Brown has a
• 54:52
  going in the right direction. I'm still holding out hope that he can get
• 54:54
  us ranked in the top twenty five. I'm sorry you. After Brad's hawk
• 55:00
  last week about his roots in Iowa, I wanted to share an anecdote.
• 55:04
  I was in the Army deployed to the Middle East Egypt during the magical twenty
• 55:08
  seven season. Pretty much missed it all. Somehow. I was attached to
• 55:13
  a National Guard unit out of Iowa. There were eight to ten active duty
• 55:17
  medical officers attached to a three hundred and fifty person National Guard unit from Iowa.
• 55:24
  Through many a night of cards, traveling aimlessly through Israel and Inja Egypt,
• 55:30
  meaninglessly, meaninglessly, physical activity competitions, drinking and laughing, I learned
• 55:36
  that West Virginia is still the greatest state in the Union, but Iowa was
• 55:38
  a close second, despite never actually stepping foot in that state. I handed
• 55:44
  out ten WVU T shirts and returned home with three Hawkeye T shirts, and
• 55:47
  Iowa will forever be my second favorite college. They were a fantastic bunch of
• 55:53
  folks, except when they coalesced into their scooter gangs and sped around our fortified
• 55:59
  camp knocking over garbage cans while doing kickflips on their pink motorized scooter designed for
• 56:04
  a nine year old. I will forever value my time with the Iowa guys
• 56:07
  and will forever be amazed at their perpetual ability to create fun and laugh.
• 56:13
  PS shout out to Brad Richardson from Caldwell, oh h Caldwell, Ohio.
• 56:21
  Played baseball at Ohio University, grew up a buck guy, now devoted Mountain
• 56:23
  Air fan. Three gaysman. That's nice. So he liked the people from
• 56:27
  Iowa. Sure, I've said many times, very similar, very similar people.
• 56:31
  You can see it in the fan bases, right sure. Yeah,
• 56:34
  passionate, nascent, very loyal, happy holidays, three guys and all listeners.
• 56:38
  Brad, when you're lawn expert entered the transfer portal. Did he write
• 56:42
  a letter to you about how great you were and your lawn was only to
• 56:45
  end it with with that being said, I'm entering the portal. A lot
• 56:49
  of guys use that at the end of their post when they transfer. I
• 56:51
  think we should call this the with that being said era of college football.
• 56:54
  Love the show Kevin and Princeton. That is the standard line. Yeah,
• 57:00
  Texter, Hey, Alcanatore, would this deliver on the peanut butter to chocolate
• 57:05
  ratio? That's a pound of Reese's goodness, that's Maguel from a NASA's park.
• 57:09
  Oh, good one, that's a big Sama. Yep, I think
• 57:13
  that would work. Wonderfully's wearing a solid ratio there, wonderfre He's wearing those
• 57:16
  recy cup Santa boots very well. Could be probably that's probably where they got
• 57:21
  them. Mm hm, just to capitated him right there. Hey three guys,
• 57:25
  Tyler from Mineral County. I'm a top seven percent Spotify listener, fourth
• 57:30
  time texter, Thank you. I'm watching the Santa's Boot episode. My wife
• 57:34
  and daughter happened to come in as Tony unveiled the boot on TV and they
• 57:37
  looked at each other simultaneously and said, that's not a boots, that's a
• 57:39
  stocking. When Tony realized his mistake, they both lost it. Then they
• 57:44
  sat down and watched the rest of the show. Guys, I have a
• 57:46
  T shirt idea. How about with all due respect, I've included a picture
• 57:52
  of me with a hard to find kerchevel in the original three Guys shirt.
• 57:54
  Thanks for the show is an original? Look at that he does have an
• 57:58
  original I thought, we haven't with all due respect, T shirt? Do
• 58:01
  we not? Probably, you know that logo that probably needs to come back
• 58:08
  the original shirt in some food. I agree it can be a retro shirt
• 58:13
  now. Absolutely, we can have multi logos. That's a great one.
• 58:19
  That's one of the originals. That's more of a you know, having fun
• 58:22
  time Steven and Eleanor. I enjoyed the story about Zack Spiker leaving you hanging
• 58:28
  after dre Bli's interception in the Gator Bowl. Growing up, I used to
• 58:31
  record every West Virginia game. I got so angry after that interception. I
• 58:37
  stopped the recording, ejected the v vhs, went outside, and placed the
• 58:43
  tape on the back porch like it was in time out. I somehow ended
• 58:46
  up being a semi productive member of society. Took the time, drey Bli
• 58:52
  intercepts he takes the tape out so you can't record anyone puts it outside.
• 58:59
  You're a Mountaineers seven. That's awesome. Philip from Philippy, I have another
• 59:04
  shot at home. Victories come back when you can stay longer. Three longs,
• 59:08
  two shorts out. I should give up on this. I love the
• 59:10
  show, thanks guys. Texter was just catching up on episode five ten and
• 59:15
  I caught the old mascot Jonathan's cameo, so I have to share this story.
• 59:21
  My wife and I are in a crowded Philadelphia tavern watching a big Mountaineer
• 59:27
  basketball game. Bartender says, Hey, there's a Mountaineer fin down there on
• 59:30
  the other end watching we waivet him. He joins us for the game,
• 59:35
  tells us he's the Mountaineer mascot in waiting. He was in town with friends
• 59:38
  who attended a concert, and he skipped the show to watch the game.
• 59:42
  Sweet gotta love those unexpected Mountaineer encounters. Dan and Apolis, Maryland via Beckley.
• 59:47
  So that was like he was in the engagement mode before he took over
• 59:52
  as the Mountaineer. Sure, Michael and Clodin. I won't speak of the
• 59:59
  party lines. We had a private line when I was young, but I'll
• 1:00:02
  say this it was a long distance call. If you wanted to talk to
• 1:00:07
  someone who lived twelve miles away. How about that, Pete butterfudge is coming
• 1:00:12
  your way soon, and since Scopes doesn't share well, I'll send three individual
• 1:00:15
  containers as always. Please keep the awesome content coming. Michael, thank you
• 1:00:22
  so much. I hear your fudge is awesome. But let me just say
• 1:00:24
  this, that thing about me sharing is incorrect, inappropriate, and intended with
• 1:00:34
  malice toward me. I told you. What I don't bring back is when
• 1:00:37
  Joe Mock brings me those donut boxes. They're as big as a car hood
• 1:00:42
  and he expects me to carry everything through. I just donuts Goofy's. Never
• 1:00:45
  get those, Texter. I am binge listening in between regular episodes. I
• 1:00:51
  just listened to the JJ Weatherhold episode. He and Garrett Green are cut from
• 1:00:55
  the same cloth. That was a good one, Jacob. Yeah. I
• 1:01:00
  was listening to a Cincinnati Reds podcast recently. Since they now have the second
• 1:01:04
  pick in the upcoming draft, they hosted a draft expert. He said,
• 1:01:07
  at this time next year's draft, there are three at the top than all
• 1:01:13
  the rest. JJ was one of those three. Wow, pretty good.
• 1:01:16
  Key question. Did weather Hold go fishing with Steve Dunlap. I don't know
• 1:01:22
  if they ever did. Don't know that. I don't think so. On
• 1:01:24
  the episode, yeah, on the episode, you also talked about all time
• 1:01:28
  great catches. I was a Mountaineer freshman in nineteen seventy five. Nothing tops
• 1:01:34
  to catch Randy Swinson made to put us in position to kick the game winner
• 1:01:37
  against Pitt. You know that was before I arrived here by nearly a decade.
• 1:01:43
  But people talk about Randy Swinson's catch that set up the field goal like
• 1:01:47
  it happened last night, and that's a good thing. They also talk about
• 1:01:52
  the eighty two Oklahoma win like it happened two weeks ago. Yeah, right,
• 1:01:55
  yeah. But the thing about Randy Swinson's catch is this, think about
• 1:01:59
  this man that's almost fifty years chrise twenty twenty three. That happened in seventy
• 1:02:05
  five. So stop now now you want to make yourself feel really old,
• 1:02:07
  Here we go. Let's just push forward. Now, let's do this thing.
• 1:02:10
  So let's say I got here in eighty four, Okay, which I
• 1:02:14
  did. I got here in eighty four. So if you go back,
• 1:02:20
  if you go back almost fifty years from eighty four, we'd be talking about
• 1:02:24
  a catch in the nineteen thirty six Mountaineer game. Think about how bizarre that
• 1:02:30
  becomes, right, Yes, Like if someone brought up a catch to me
• 1:02:36
  in nineteen eighty four, you should have seen this catch in nineteen thirty six,
• 1:02:39
  I'd say, what the heck was it in black and white? How
• 1:02:43
  would you know? But instead we sit here and talk about these catches,
• 1:02:46
  talk about Major's run, and we'll continue to do. So that's thirty five
• 1:02:52
  years ago ago, and that happens every generation, I know, right,
• 1:02:57
  Younger people now look at us like we're nuts when we talk about this.
• 1:03:00
  That's just like because we thought, like, let's face it, like the
• 1:03:02
  older guys that were here that were talking about that catch, Like even when
• 1:03:09
  in the eighties when they would talk about West Virginia beating Penn State at Penn
• 1:03:13
  State in the fifties, we'd look at him like the guys that were shooting
• 1:03:16
  the game on the sideline, like had the cover over their head and the
• 1:03:20
  thing would explode And to get the picture of the game, right, that's
• 1:03:24
  how we would look at it. Can you believe he's freaking talking about this
• 1:03:28
  game in nineteen fifties? Yeah, the guy's got a big curtain over his
• 1:03:35
  head. That's what it would seem like, right, Like, why is
• 1:03:42
  that guy talking to me about that game? Like people back then they had
• 1:03:45
  like a raccoon coat on. They'd like wave a thing, a pom pom
• 1:03:49
  and the photographer stay right there? What would delight like it? You're right,
• 1:04:00
  listen, you want to take this seriously? You want to take that
• 1:04:02
  call? Walk walk out there? Can you walk out there? Take that
• 1:04:04
  call? Take that call because we might have different information. All right,
• 1:04:11
  We're here for you, folks. We're trying to get you the most fresh
• 1:04:14
  stuff, all right. Texter? Oh ge there no, there, no,
• 1:04:23
  uh, this will be fun. I'm doing textuble healing by myself.
• 1:04:28
  So now finally no one can attack me. Craig from Winfield. Regarding Aubrey
• 1:04:34
  Burks, if he chooses to transfer, as it is currently being rumored reported,
• 1:04:42
  good for him, go collect your money. However, coach Brown should
• 1:04:45
  not allow him to play in the ball game. In my opinion, there
• 1:04:48
  still has to be a point where you draw a line for loyalty to the
• 1:04:51
  team, which is he no longer is loyal to the team. More importantly,
• 1:05:00
  Aubrey lived on the same floor as my daughter their freshman year. He
• 1:05:03
  borrowed some ranch dressing from her, but he never returned it. Now that
• 1:05:10
  he can easily afford it, I think it's time to buy her a new
• 1:05:13
  bottle of ranch dressing. Good luck to him wherever he ends up. I'll
• 1:05:18
  just be left with a sad image of my daughter having salad without addressing.
• 1:05:21
  Thanks for all you do. Very cute. So in regard to that,
• 1:05:29
  there are some players that do and this is not just West Virginia specific,
• 1:05:33
  there are times when a player is going to go into the portal, but
• 1:05:39
  they do play in the ball game, and what qualifies for that well,
• 1:05:45
  I think, and this is all based obviously on what the coach wants to
• 1:05:48
  do, but there are times when a coach understands the player's situation. Let's
• 1:05:55
  say you're a team that's got running backs and you know you're not going to
• 1:06:00
  be in that rotation next year and get the snaps that you want, and
• 1:06:05
  you say, coach, I am going to go into the portal, but
• 1:06:11
  if you want, I'll play in this game, you know, because we
• 1:06:15
  know we have this players out and this players out. If you're willing,
• 1:06:18
  I'm willing. I'm playing. Plus I give myself another opportunity to show myself
• 1:06:23
  to other schools. Then it becomes yeah, okay, I'm willing to do
• 1:06:28
  that. You're willing to do that, Let's do that. Then it kind
• 1:06:30
  of goes Okay, I get it. That makes sense if that's there,
• 1:06:33
  But there are other times where that's not there, and it's just better to
• 1:06:41
  cut bait. Now. Neil's thing is he cuts bait when you have the
• 1:06:46
  two receivers very early in this season, Cortes Brahm and Jeremiah Aaron, you
• 1:06:51
  know, opting out after four games. It was like, see ya,
• 1:06:57
  because sometimes it's not good. When other I'm not saying specifically, does but
• 1:07:02
  you got heat gone go. You don't want him around, don't lift,
• 1:07:06
  You're done, you made your decision, you're out. See you. But
• 1:07:11
  there are times when it does make sense. There are times there, so
• 1:07:14
  I don't think he could say one hundred percent of the time, you're definitely
• 1:07:17
  gone. Sometimes it makes sense for both to stay. Texter. Good evening,
• 1:07:26
  gents, to follow the vernacular Newish listener started at the beginning of football
• 1:07:32
  season. So I'm officially a sophomore now right, I'm a first time Texter.
• 1:07:39
  I've been wondering about a few things on eligibility. The first is about
• 1:07:42
  Zach Fraser. I wonder if NFL teams might question whether he will be ready
• 1:07:47
  next year and whether another year at West Virginia to reprove himself, reprove himself
• 1:07:54
  might benefit him in their eyes. Not to mention the award the Big twelve
• 1:07:58
  title possibilities mentioned earlier, that's an abbreviation of that. So the answer to
• 1:08:03
  that is no. I mean, Zach. We all knew going into this
• 1:08:08
  year that was going to be it for Zach. He's done his time,
• 1:08:13
  He's played a lot of football here. It's time for him to put himself
• 1:08:16
  into that professional ranks, and from what I'm told, he will be ready
• 1:08:19
  to go for the start of an NFL season next year. So now there's
• 1:08:26
  nothing there on that one. The other is the eligibility eligibility question about Rayqwan.
• 1:08:33
  So this is so fresh that it's all going on now do you have
• 1:08:36
  would you care to offer any information on the phone call? Well, I
• 1:08:40
  would say this, I would say what we said at the opening part of
• 1:08:44
  the show when I said that it's going to get really loud and there's going
• 1:08:47
  to be a lot of noise centered around this issue. You did say that
• 1:08:50
  noise is coming, noises coming. There are a bunch of entities people slash
• 1:08:59
  around this that think the NCAA has made a massive pr mistake here and that
• 1:09:04
  this is not at all what was intended with the ruling. People are working
• 1:09:09
  on clarifications of that as we speak, which is what we thought about.
• 1:09:13
  So we kind of thought we didn't screw it up. Now, so we
• 1:09:15
  didn't. We don't know what's going to happen, but certainly what the fallout
• 1:09:19
  was going to be from that clarification from the NSA, I think we hit
• 1:09:24
  that right on the nose. Or are thinking of going back to the judge
• 1:09:27
  and asking for clarification. We were on that that will be coming. That
• 1:09:30
  will be coming. Yes, Okay. He goes on to say, I
• 1:09:34
  understand this is a very long first text, so this doesn't make textual healing.
• 1:09:39
  I understand. I still love to hear your insights on this because I
• 1:09:41
  respect all of your fact based, logical realistic thoughts and insight. Appreciate your
• 1:09:48
  feedback. Not HD in Baltimore. I took care of most of that for
• 1:09:51
  okay, Ben and Chicago rights one, two, three, four, six
• 1:10:00
  six words you talk about timing, gentlemen, that doesn't count as one of
• 1:10:04
  the words. Did WVU just break the NCAA. I don't know yet,
• 1:10:14
  but when you go back and think historically, the answer is maybe Sean Austen's
• 1:10:20
  case was monumental in game changing, and this particular case potentially will be looked
• 1:10:30
  at in the years to come to say that is where the damn let out
• 1:10:35
  and it would just never look back. Yeah, potentially. I don't think
• 1:10:40
  WVU did it now, I mean w no, because WVU is not involved
• 1:10:45
  in this lawsuit. No, but it is remarkable that two landmark decisions were
• 1:10:50
  front facing with two former WV or current former Well, why do you think?
• 1:10:57
  Why do you think that is because there's always a West Virginia connection.
• 1:11:01
  That's a great point. That's a great point. If that doesn't this is
• 1:11:06
  bearing itself out right there. If that doesn't sell more T shirts, we
• 1:11:10
  told you told you always a connection. Last night fight in the Indiana Pacers
• 1:11:15
  game against the Bucks when Jannis got bummed out that he didn't get the ball
• 1:11:20
  after he scored sixty four? Why did the Why did the Pacers want to
• 1:11:26
  keep the ball because Oscar sheeb ways scored his first NBA points. They wanted
• 1:11:30
  to have Oscar to have the ball because there's always a West Virginia connection.
• 1:11:35
  But wait, it goes more. Your lifelong buddy growing up is the general
• 1:11:40
  manager of the Pacers. Correct he is? He was also center involved because
• 1:11:45
  he got involved in that hallway whatever. He took a shot to the ribs.
• 1:11:50
  I mean, I don't even know if he is it broke? Is
• 1:11:53
  he bred? Did you check in with him? I have not talked to
• 1:11:55
  him yet, but I will agere old mellow guy. He's probably just trying
• 1:11:59
  to calm everybody. Okay. I was trying to find the ball. He
• 1:12:02
  caught a stray stupid ball. I mean, what are we doing? What
• 1:12:05
  are we doing? Getting in fights? Grown men getting in fights in the
• 1:12:10
  hallway about a ball? So stupid? It was an odd story, that's
• 1:12:15
  odd. I mean, this guy's ever stop and take a deep breath and
• 1:12:17
  think, right, No, no, they don't even get me started on
• 1:12:25
  Draymond Green. I'd suspend him for like one hundred and one hundred for like
• 1:12:31
  six years, and they'd say he is suspended right now. Yeah, I'd
• 1:12:34
  say what's the suspension. Leaks can come out and say just say two words,
• 1:12:39
  dumb ass. Just what do you mean? Just a dumb ass?
• 1:12:43
  He just continues to be a dumb ass. He's suspended now for six years.
• 1:12:45
  You want to be a dumb ass. He can't be a dumb ass.
• 1:12:47
  Just suspend it for six years. He could have. You know,
• 1:12:51
  dude, he swung at that guy. You hit him in the wrong place.
• 1:12:57
  He had no idea where that was landing, but he wanted to hit
• 1:13:00
  him in the head. Yeah, yeah, of ten to agree. Okay,
• 1:13:01
  so just go back for our younger folks out there, go back in
• 1:13:05
  the nineteen seventies and just put in your YouTube machine. Rudy tom Janovich Kermit
• 1:13:11
  Davis basically a punch that ended Rudy tom Janovich's career, like it can happen
• 1:13:18
  in a second. Oh I didn't mean it. No, you didn't mean
• 1:13:21
  it, but you could. You could do irreparable damage to someone when you
• 1:13:27
  just swing. And it's just it's just chronic with him. JD from the
• 1:13:40
  Southern Coal Fields rights. Dear God, please let the Big twelve and acc
• 1:13:45
  merge. There's absolutely no reason for WVU football to be traveling west of the
• 1:13:49
  Mississippi multiple times a year, and there's no reason for basketball to need to
• 1:13:54
  schedule a two game road trip on Saturday and Monday except for money. When
• 1:14:00
  we've heard snippets from Tony regarding the long travel in the late times getting home,
• 1:14:05
  but I would love to hear a detailed description of what it's really like
• 1:14:10
  to go to West Texas, play an evening game, fly home afterward,
• 1:14:15
  never mind Arizona or Utah. JD from the Southern Coal Fields. JD.
• 1:14:24
  Thanks for listening, Thanks for the question. I differ than others on this
• 1:14:30
  travel thing, and I have been on every single Big twelve road trip with
• 1:14:39
  West Virginia in the last twelve years, with the exception of two games I
• 1:14:44
  missed two COVID and a wedding, and so I know it. I felt
• 1:14:51
  it. I've been there. Here's what I say, Man, it's been
• 1:15:00
  over hyped of how hard it is. It's nine games in the league on
• 1:15:08
  the road, Okay. The league goes out of its way to give you
• 1:15:12
  a couple of these two gamers. So you don't have to go back and
• 1:15:15
  forth all nine times. You end up going back and forth seven times.
• 1:15:19
  Okay, you're with me. It's not like they tell you three days before,
• 1:15:27
  Oh, by the way, you gotta go play Texas Tech at Texas
• 1:15:29
  Tech like it's known mentally, I say, you prepare your team for that,
• 1:15:34
  and you say from day one, Hey, here's what we have in
• 1:15:36
  front of us on this particular week. This is that trip, and this
• 1:15:40
  is how we're going to do this. If you just constantly say how hard
• 1:15:44
  it is, how bad it is, how tough it is, people will
• 1:15:46
  believe you. We fly as nice as you can fly big seats, big
• 1:15:57
  seats, big planes. You get on the plane, go to sleep.
• 1:16:02
  So to me, it's overhyped. If you put it in someone's head that
• 1:16:06
  something's hard, they're going to be in by into it. Like there's so
• 1:16:09
  much stuff that's harder than what you're being asked to do. That's my take.
• 1:16:15
  Now, you have to be smart about it, just leg wise.
• 1:16:19
  So if you do go Wednesday Saturday and you have a Saturday at home,
• 1:16:24
  yeah, you have to be cognizant of it. Is it? Yeah,
• 1:16:27
  But like it's overhyped, ridiculous. Last one. Hey, guys, my
• 1:16:39
  wife and I went to Columbus to do some Christmas shopping this weekend, swung
• 1:16:45
  by the Walmarts and happened upon this. Oh that's not real it No,
• 1:16:53
  that's photoshopped. Nope, I looked it up. No way, Yep,
• 1:16:57
  twenty bucks. These other regular ones, but impressive. Nonetheless, I had
• 1:17:00
  to pick these up for Dad as he is an avid Reces fan. Love
• 1:17:03
  the show. Merry Christmas, Scottie and Milton. Where was he? He's
• 1:17:08
  up there in the Columbus Walmart. That's real eighteen pack. No, I
• 1:17:14
  looked it up. Those aren't regular sized ones either. It looks wide.
• 1:17:17
  Yeah, that is awesome. They're basically small manhole covers. I have not
• 1:17:21
  seen that first. I've seen that. Yeah, Scotty, it's strong.
• 1:17:27
  I wrote back to him. I wrote back to him. I said,
• 1:17:28
  dude, that's the all time league leader right now. That is that's awesome.
• 1:17:30
  I've not I've never seen that. You think about it, man,
• 1:17:34
  you take that with a fly rod, slim gym right and get yourself and
• 1:17:40
  get yourself a seventeen leader mountain dew over there at go Mart. And that's
• 1:17:45
  basically a Christmas party that is strong. Real quick for you go. I
• 1:17:48
  want to give a quick shout out. Was out and about in the community
• 1:17:51
  this week. Ran into some listeners, that's not a surprise. Ran into
• 1:17:57
  Peyton Shreeve and Ella maring l Us from Cincinnata. Peyton from Bridgeport. Just
• 1:18:03
  sound about the community. But they stopped there students at WVU. Oh these
• 1:18:09
  are the people you ran into. Yeah, they're in there. They're in
• 1:18:11
  the finals. But Peyton wanted to point out they both listen. Ellen and
• 1:18:15
  Peyton both listened, but turned onto the program from Mark Shreve. Dad's dad
• 1:18:20
  got him into it. It's a big shout out to all of them.
• 1:18:23
  So both those yes on finals and thank you Mark Shreeve. Both those ladies
• 1:18:27
  are listeners. Yeah, they recognized you where you were. Did that make
• 1:18:31
  you feel weird? Yeah, but it was nice and they were very nice.
• 1:18:34
  Had a great conversation. I liked hearing from the folks. And they're
• 1:18:36
  from here in the state. They listen. Yeah, Bridgeport. Peyton and
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  Mark Street from Bridgeport. Ellis from Cincinnata. Oh okay. I did not
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  ask her if she says Cincinnata, and when she said it, she said
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  has been a unique show, different kind of earlier, just different. It's
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  just been a it's been a different show. I don't know how this is
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  going to age. We might look go back and look at this in like
• 1:20:00
  six eight months and say that was weird, or you might say, hey,
• 1:20:03
  we were right on top of that thing while it was happening. It
• 1:20:06
  doesn't mean it's gonna get changed. I think we were right on top of
• 1:20:10
  what the fallout would be from that decision. Yeah, nification. So basically,
• 1:20:16
  to put it in the reader's digest form, the NCAA as we began
• 1:20:21
  the program, tried to maintain a hard line and say that you will lose
• 1:20:27
  eligibility if you play if this is not right. If you if this case
• 1:20:31
  is ruled in favor of the NCAA, you will lose a year. So
• 1:20:34
  it got everyone scared. And while the course of this pod was going on,
• 1:20:40
  we said, wait a second, the judge is gonna go They're gonna
• 1:20:43
  go to the judge and say, clarify this to tell me is not what
• 1:20:45
  you meant. Correct, And then people are gonna you said it's going to
• 1:20:49
  get hot. Yeah, and it did. Right the Attorney General it is
• 1:20:55
  and then you took another call. Yes, you didn't hire a soccer coach
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  or anything while you had it, not hire a soccer coach, but verified
• 1:21:02
  what we were saying was along the right path. People are hot so well
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  so in three guys terms, whether whether the NC double A or knows it
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  or not, here comes a heater. Heater's coming, heater is coming and
• 1:21:16
  is in process of coming. Yes, all right, we're uh back Monday.
• 1:21:21
  We'll talk about whatever the heck. Who knows who's playing? Who knows
• 1:21:26
  who's playing Saturday? I mean who knows? Goodness, I mean Dave,
• 1:21:30
  Shawn Butler and Alex r Off, for all we know, will be out
• 1:21:33
  there playing by the time this thing. It's mccab in there as well.
• 1:21:35
  By the time they get done with the NC double A. I mean McCay
• 1:21:39
  might be out there. Alex gonna get a little bit dayshawn. A final
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