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Is the NFL rigged? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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Welcome back to Jabba and the Mouth.
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We got a few more segments left tonight.
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We've had some really great segments, some good guests
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coming on. We got a couple of Floridians on
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the screen right now, a part time Floridian and a full time
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one, at least a vacationing New Yorker in Florida with Errol
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Marx joining us for the last hour of the show.
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And we've got Nick Goody in this in the studio.
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How we doing Goody? What up?
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Very good dude. See you.
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It's pretty crazy baseball going on.
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We saw come down to the wire with the Dodgers and the
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Phillies earlier tonight. They got a 2, nothing lead.
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Looks like Rokie Sasaki just firing it up there.
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But before we get into some baseball, and we're going to get
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to your segment a little bit goody, we got to hear about some
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Jabba rules. Rules, rules.
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Rules. All right, Jabba, here we go.
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What rules tonight? Well, we're going to go on.
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This is going to be what rules not to break on Jabba rules
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tonight. Jared Shaw is an Indonesian
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basketball player that is facing life in prison and possible
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execution for bringing $400.00 worth of gummies in Indonesia,
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in Indonesia. And he said he uses them as
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medicine. And the Indonesian Basketball
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League says that there is no place in this league for drug
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users and so he is up for possible execution.
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They have executed that last time was in 2016, but could be
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life in prison for $400.00 worth of gummies if we haven't learned
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now. Stop bringing drugs into other
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countries. Follow the rules.
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Don't break the rules, because that's Java rules.
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That kind of reminds me of that Brittany Griner story years ago.
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Where? Yeah, that's why that's it.
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It I was like, what are we like, what are we doing here?
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Like, come on. My God, Lee, that's really not
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that much. What it's not.
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And that's a quick they they search like there was a tip,
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they searched it and like I was like, this is they might execute
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him as in kill him. Yeah, So Southeast Asia is like
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that with drug offenses. I remember when I was a kid,
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there was a story, and I don't know if you remember this job,
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that in Singapore, in the region, there was a kid who went
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like an American that went there to like he was like spray
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painting a car. I'm pretty sure they gave him 10
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lashes. Like publicly I.
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Remember hearing that story? I know exactly.
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And then there was story like if you stole something there, cut
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off your hand, you know, like like this is like eye for an eye
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like coat of Hammurabi type stuff going on over there.
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Yeah, it's not. I saw that and I was like, what
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are like, what are we doing, people?
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North Korea, I don't know if anybody knows this story.
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A couple of years ago, there was a kid that went to North Korea
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to check out the city and, and all that.
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He was staying at a hotel and he went up to a hotel area that he
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wasn't supposed to and he stole something from that area.
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They found out, they sentenced him, they made him apologize to
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his family and all the United States and all this other stuff.
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He was pretty thrown away. The key they beat, they beat
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him. They did all this stuff to him.
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They didn't feed him. They finally got him back to
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America. He was practically in a
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wheelchair getting a feeding tube down his throat.
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And what happens to him? He dies a couple months later
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and nobody, nobody knows the story behind what happened to
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him and what how they treated him when he was in jail.
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All because I remember. That but I I they definitely
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abused him for sure. 100%. He was like in a coma when they
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send him back or something. Yep, Yep.
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All right guys, we have just a couple more things to do.
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One of them is the big reveal for Savior Tears.
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Mom, what's one thing that you can't talk to me about?
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My sexual fantasies? No.
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No, say your sorry. It is not ideal, but if it's
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what means it is not ideal, but if it is not ideal, but if it is
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what means you can't trouble double stamp.
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You can't treble stamp with double stamp Lord, you can't
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dribble stamp with double stamps.
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But but you guys. Now it's time for save your
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tear. All right, guys, we're going to
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do this quickly. This is the results, the
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compliment chorus again. The winner of Save Your Tears
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Every week gets long winded genuine compliments that have to
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be at least 51% genuine from all of the losers.
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Well, for week 5 we have quite an interesting result and we're
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going to have. So if you take a look at it, we
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had some. Interesting to back-to-back
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champion. Whoever took Bucky Irving, he
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didn't play. He got an injury designation
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after we. Did this Bucky I think?
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As far as tight ends, nobody took AJ Barner who was for
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$2.00, who was the leading scorer at the tight end position
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in all of football this week. But you know, a lot of guys did
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well. Mecca Buka was a big name this
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week. Let's see who ends up winning.
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Save your tears for Week 5. And Oh my God, it's the South
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African legend himself. Second time in three weeks.
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Nithya Mania with another win, 88 points, 2nd place.
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Speedy PD Arrow Marks keeping up his FedEx Cup standings in 3rd
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with 81 .98. Didn't I pick Bucky Irving?
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Did I pick Bucky Irving? I.
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Did if you didn't take them you would have won?
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Yeah, I would have won. Yeah, you would have won if you.
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Just took Kenneth Walker for a dollar, it would have been
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enough. To win.
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Other big performers. DAC had the big game for
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quarterbacks. Baker was right behind them.
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Mecca Buca was the leading wide receiver at tight end.
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Ferguson for Dallas had a big game as well.
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So Nathans, not here. We're going to do these like
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we're writing to a pen pal. We're just going to give them a
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little love real quick. And we'll start off with our
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last place finisher for this week, which is Tommy.
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Then I'll go, then Jarrett and then Jabba.
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Then our medalists started off Tommy Scoops.
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All right, Mr. He was short. Mr. Nitin, Yeah, Mr. Nitin, if
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you're watching this, just no, man, you did it, man.
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You did it back-to-back weeks. You know, like you said, it's
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hard to get one week. You did it back-to-back week.
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So I hope you're having a very safe trip over there in Africa,
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Hope making sure you know you're very victorious over there.
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So yeah, man, have a safe trip and you were the champ.
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Now back-to-back weeks. All right now.
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I'm going to give you mine Nitin in in a language that that can
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be understood where you are currently in the globe.
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Here's my answer. No, that's just the beginning of
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The Lion King. The Lion King, when he holds
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Simba up, he may as well Rafiki have been holding up baby Nathan
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because baby Nathan became the king of the jungle, the king of
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the Pride Lands, the King of Savior Tears.
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That was actually really good. I thought you were going to go
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with Ebonics. So everything that the light
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touches belongs to Nathan. Literally everything unless Scar
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shows up. Oh.
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Yeah, Scott, that'll be a big problem if scar shows.
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Up. All right.
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Who's up next? Jared, I heard.
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I heard somebody doing something.
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Congratulations, hope you're enjoying South Africa.
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Congratulations, the big win. It always hurts when the person
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who wins have three of the five same picks as you.
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Also shout out for showing up in the stream for all three whole
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seconds. Just enough to make me look
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crazy for saying what's up Nathan in the chat.
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That is true. I did see him pop in for a
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second. I didn't see a pop.
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It's like it's like 4 in the morning over there for Nathan
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too. All right, who we got next we
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got Mr. Jabba Chamberlain. Yeah, Nathan, hope you're having
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fun. I'm glad you could stop in to
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see us for 14 seconds as you probably woke up to pee in the
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middle of the night. Hopefully you didn't shake it
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too many times or you got a crazy bug up in your pee hole.
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Hope you're staying safe, having fun and come back in one piece.
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We miss you, buddy. All right, let's go on to our
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bronze medal finisher, Errol. Marx.
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Well, Nathan, you know what I feel about me.
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Oh, I think you're sensational. Everything that you do is is
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great. You could be a pain in the ass
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sometimes, but I love you. I hope you're not flying in
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helicopters too often because it's dangerous.
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You're putting yourself at risk. I I don't find it to be very
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safe when you're up on that helicopter.
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But besides that, congratulations for feeding us
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once again. And by the way, after that, I'm
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going to go good luck to goody and goodies.
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Bag of balls, Jabba. I'm going to watch Monster on
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Netflix. I'm I'm up to the third episode.
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I'm actually enjoying it. It's so weird.
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It's crazy, it's freaky. I'm enjoying it.
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I've. Been meaning.
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To watch. That's that's with your boy the
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Leatherface, right? Leatherface baby.
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Yes, it dropped yesterday. I believe.
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Right. Oh, you didn't want to talk
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about NFL rigging the games? No, I'm not going to talk about
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that until I get back on Thursday.
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Don't you worry. I got that all, all set up
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because I've been saying that for the last 10 years and now
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everybody's saying it. I don't get any credit for any
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of my take, by the way. Nobody gives me credit, Speedy.
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How long I've been, How long have I been saying that?
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How long as? Long as I knew.
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You as long. As long as I know you as well,
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That is a true statement. Errol has been.
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Saying Rodney Dangerfield, I get no respect.
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I get no respect. I finally get some respect.
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I don't have the eyes. I don't have the googly eyes.
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But love you guys. I'll see you guys when I get
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back booty. I'll see you all Wednesday.
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All right, So what is our civil medalist?
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I believe it's Speedy. Yeah, so also, I also took Bucky
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Irving, which I would have been backfired.
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Like I was thinking either Errol and I could win because we had a
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lot of the similar picks. We both had DAC, we both had one
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cowboy each, but we both took Bucky Irving, which backfired.
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But for you, Nathan, I hope you have a great trip over there in
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South Africa. You reign supreme as the leader
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of the jungle. And now all those animals will
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be wearing your blue Blazers and sipping gin and gins and tonics
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to celebrate your back-to-back. Probably the first time in
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Savior Cheers champ history. Back-to-back champion.
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So are they wearing his blue Blazers and he's like holding
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them on a leash as animals over? There as as.
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Well, the leash is a theory that has to be determined because the
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they are quite big predatory creatures out there with the
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African wilderness. But since he is now the king,
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his leash has now been upgraded. So I hear vocabulary is amazing,
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those big predatorial creatures. The leash has now.
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Got to me, Tommy. You need to cut predatorial
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creatures in the African wilderness for us, please.
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Thank you, The leash has now. Gotten a super level of upgrade
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and now it can do that. I I will definitely get AI right
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on trying to make that picture that you just described for
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next. Week.
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For the show on Thursday, I will have to look back.
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At it Creatures in the African wilderness.
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Yeah, that, that's one way to put it.
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We've got a lot of, we got one segment left, fellas, and that's
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one of our favorites. He's here, he's ready.
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It's time for goodies. Bag of balls my.
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Mom is going to wire a car battery with my testicles.
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Trying to put Tiger Bomb on this jungle's nuts.
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Goodies Bag of balls. That's how you become great man.
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Hang your balls out there. Goodness.
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All right, all right, Goody. Welcome back.
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Good to see you my friend. OK I'm just watching the game
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right now. George TS got called strike two
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on a ball like 3 inches off the plate and gets an infield
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single. Baseball has a way for itself.
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Going to be a lot of this next year they've been.
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Bad tonight, umpires. Yeah, there's going to be some
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challenges, but I'm not going to talk challenges.
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I'm here to talk about Mark. Mark Sanchez, your boy Jabba
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getting stabbed. Do you hear about this?
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Yeah, I haven't heard about it. Where?
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Have you been? Yeah, it's been crazy.
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I've been at the baseball field, so I've just heard about it.
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Former NFL quarterback and current Fox analyst Mark Sanchez
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was involved in a violent altercation in Indianapolis in
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the early morning hours of a Saturday.
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Dispute reportedly began over a parking issue relating to a
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truck driver who was 69 years old working at a hotel loading
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dock. Sanchez allegedly confronted the
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man, attempted to enter or interfere with his vehicle, and
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a physical confrontation ensued. The driver claimed self-defense.
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He used pepper spray and subsequently stabbed Sanchez.
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Sanchez suffered multiple stab wounds to his upper torso and
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was hospitalized. I don't know if you saw the
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video of Mark Sanchez walking, but what a monster.
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And I don't know if you saw the picture of the guy that he
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absolutely demolished but damn I don't even know where to begin
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with this story aside from the fact like dude got stabbed,
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looked like a couple times in the in the abdomen area, and
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still was freaking hammered enough to walk to wherever he
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needed to go. Pretty impressive.
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I mean, I can't really comment on what happened that night
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specifically to lead to that situation.
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The after effects were pretty obvious that a former
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professional athlete beat up an old man and the old man.
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Pepper spray, dude, he got pepper sprayed and the old man.
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Fought back with whatever he had, which included pepper spray
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and I guess a pocket knife or a switch, you know, some kind of
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switchblade that he had protecting his truck or
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something. And Sanchez was so belligerently
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drunk that he either, you know, it was something like that.
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He was backing into a loading dock and Sanchez didn't want him
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at that loading dock for some reason.
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I which I I don't know. What the hell was he doing at
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the loading I. I, I don't know, I, you know,
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maybe he was waiting for a limo with a couple of, you know,
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couple of friends to go out back there, you know, to leave
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without anyone seeing them or paparazzi.
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I don't know what you famous people do.
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All I know is this story sucks for Mark Sanchez.
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It sucks for the guy involved. Obviously he was supposed to
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call a game the next day, I believe for Fox Sports, for
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football and Brady. Quinn filled in for him.
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Brady Quinn filled in for him. Mark Sanchez has been pretty
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good on the air. I look some guys, some guys,
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they just party all the time. I just watched that Charlie
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Sheen documentary. I'm like how?
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Good. That's such a good documentary.
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That dude didn't stop partying until he literally had HIV.
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And then I think he's partied for another two years before he
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stopped. And like, I'm serious.
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Some guys just like some guys just that's how they are.
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They're just going to rock out like that.
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They're going to party all the time.
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They're going to drink until they're 80 years old and that's
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fine. Like John Daly, you know, he's
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like I, I get it. But some guys there's a time
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where you got to stop and you got to change up how you're
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doing it, how you're partying. I have a feeling Mark Sanchez
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may need to change up a little bit.
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And I think if there's a wake up call, I would imagine this is
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probably it. Yeah, no, I, I don't know.
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I don't I don't know how it goes to blows like that, but
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apparently the guy was like unloading his truck or
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something. So it was like somebody who
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worked there, I think, and he just got up in his face.
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But here's the thing, like we can make all these allegations,
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but we will never know the absolute truth to we can kind of
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tie this into the Kyron Lacy thing with LSU.
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And now that it's coming out that he was actually innocent
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and you know, social media crushed him until ultimately he
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couldn't take it anymore. So, you know, who knows what's
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going to happen with that, but we'll wait and see the.
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After effects with that are a lot, a lot harder to believe
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with what happened with Kyra Lacey as well.
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And I don't know how much it lingered in terms of the overall
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effects, but you definitely believe it has to have do some
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with it. And now that coming out later is
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just such unfortunate timing. Now this is a different case
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where you use like pepper spray, there's a stabbing like all of a
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sudden over like a truck and loading dock.
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Video evidence. They have video evidence.
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No, I know. He's screwed.
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It's video evidence of both of them actually.
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But the Chiron Lace thing, they have real crazy video evidence
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that his lawyer found out that the Louisiana police were trying
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to. I don't know what their
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collusion with the. Timing of it makes you believe
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there has to be something with it and it's just unfortunate for
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somebody. So you don't want to believe
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it's a racial thing down in the Bayou like that.
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It's that's a really crappy story and back.
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Oh yeah, I mean, we don't know. I don't know what I don't even I
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didn't watch the Bert video first say the the police Cam
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footage. But you're talking about Kyle
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and Lacey as a potential first round draft pick.
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So it's like. Yeah, Malik neighbors, you know,
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was had some comments online. He was that was his guy that
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they played together. And you know, it's, it's got to
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be real tough, you know, to even swallow that if you were friends
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with him, let alone family members with him.
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That's that's terrible. As far as the Mark Sanchez, Mark
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Sanchez is I I think Tyron Lacy was the victim there.
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And Mark Sanchez apparently is not the victim in this.
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He's the aggressor. He's the aggressor in this.
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I mean, look, we we don't know, but you know, I, I just hope
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that everybody involved in that story kind of writes their
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writes the ship some possible way.
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Jabba, you know Mark Sanchez a little bit from your time
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together in New York around the same time.
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Yeah, you send a well wish. Yeah, it was, it was.
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It's, it's such a weird story. Like This is why it's tough to
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do sometimes what we do, right? Like, because you want to talk
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about something because obviously it's news and
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everybody's touching on it, but it's hard to create.
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And then then you kind of put your foot in your mouth because
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you don't really get the whole story until sometimes maybe it's
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too late because you know, this all comes out and some people
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covered it when they first heard.
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And obviously you want, you want him to be safe, but you don't
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know the whole story. Then this comes out and it's
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like, damn, do you, do you really hope he's OK?
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Like it's, it's just, it's hard to do sometimes, man.
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Obviously you hope everybody's OK in the situation.
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And, and like I said, there's, there's three people that that's
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going to know him, Mark and the good man upstairs.
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And that's, that's going to be about it.
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And it's, it's going to be whatever, but just hope, hope
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everybody's OK and it turns out all right, man.
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It's a, it's a shitty situation to be honest.
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And there's, there's a no win really.
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Anyways. So yeah, it just, it stinks all
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around. I mean, you can't even make
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jokes about like it's like you can make jokes, but what's the
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even the point? Like the whole situation such
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like a crappy joke in the 1st place.
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It's just like man, that's that just sucks.
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Like I, I don't know man, that that's just.
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It sucks for every. Story.
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It sucks. Literally.
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It's not a good story for a single person involved, you
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know? Crazy.
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What do you got goody? What's ball 2?
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NFL conspiracy NFL rigging NFLESPN financial entanglement
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conspiracy theory gaining traction as Errol would say,
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he's been saying it for the past 35 years.
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Because the NFL owns a 10% stake in ESPN, and ESPN is deeply
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involved in sports broadcasting and betting media, some believe
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that the league might influence outcomes.
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Officiating our narratives to boost ratings, gambling
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engagement or profits close financial connections between
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the media betting and the sport race conflicts of interest.
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That's clearly we're seeing it in every single category where
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now you're seeing even it crossover into MLB with guys
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betting on certain pitches prior to the game.
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So the NFL, the NFL can do it, but individuals can't Like I, I,
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I don't know dude. My my biggest thing is then you
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have a ton of players come out and say the NFL is scripted.
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I don't know what'll be. Are they becoming like the extra
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glorified WWE right now? Like you said, not the
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direction. I'm not there.
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But to me it seems like it's a possibility.
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This is why it's a conspiracy theory that we got to cover on
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the show. Well.
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Yeah, Arian Foster was the one that brought up two years ago,
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right? Yeah, he said, hey, in like week
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17, you're going to blow your knee out.
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He's like, damn. And.
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He like he tried to post a picture with the document of the
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script and obviously Errol and I made it a segment at that time
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to magnify for Errol is right. He he said it a lot earlier than
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that. He the first time I remember him
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saying it was in 2018, the year after the the Patriots Falcons
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Super Bowl. He was saying like some
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commercials and stuff like that were making it look rigged,
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which I guess fits the theory with the money and especially
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now with the betting deal that the ESP or the the NFL deal,
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the. ESPN What's the deal?
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He lost the Chiefs game. With the, well with the.
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Chiefs. Yeah, I guess there's which one
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enough of them with. The any of them.
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Nothing with the Chiefs is definitely possible, but again,
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possibly with the Patriots too, with with that whole
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circumstance. So I remember I was doing a
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project in college at that time that had to do with like the
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NFL, like the Super Bowl going to overtime that year benefited
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some commercials or some companies to get extra
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commercials too, which is kind of interesting.
22:25
So maybe now with belt betting accelerated too, it definitely
22:29
could accelerate it. I was mentioning even when I was
22:31
doing the picks last week, how many like 8 to 9/13/15 point
22:35
spreads were so many crazy ones that I was saying that would
22:38
make no sense. So maybe that has to go into it.
22:40
It's definitely interesting. I'm probably more accelerated
22:43
with the conspiracy because of the betting, but.
22:46
Probably even more so with the commercials and the marketing
22:48
already. So I'm going to push back.
22:52
I don't think football's rigged. I think there's too many things
22:55
going on in the game with just on every single play.
22:59
There's 130 to plus plays every game.
23:03
There's a lot that can go wrong. Now, do I think in the Super
23:06
Bowl, maybe they're telling to officiate it a certain way.
23:09
That's probably true. I I, you know, in certain games
23:12
that they in the NFC championship game, maybe they
23:14
want a specific team in the Super Bowl.
23:16
I'm willing to believe in some of those conspiracies, but to
23:18
say that everything's rigged, I think that's a little nuts.
23:21
I think that. Maybe that maybe the bigger
23:23
games, the bigger market games are rigged.
23:26
That maybe. Kansas City Chiefs are rigged.
23:31
Well, they lost again tonight to the Jags.
23:33
My Night Football. I'm sure we'll talk about it on
23:35
Thursday. The Chiefs only have one win,
23:37
two wins this year. How much money?
23:39
I wonder how much money was bet on them to lose and by who?
23:43
I mean, you never know. I.
23:45
Wonder. If it was baseball, we'd be
23:47
betting on if the first six pitches go in the dirt for
23:50
Emmanuel Class A and making a huge fortune.
23:54
You know, the prop bet thing is something that's real in
23:57
football. I think it's a little bit harder
23:58
to accomplish those prop bets unless you're the one holding
24:02
the football making those decisions.
24:03
It's not like you can get rebounds for for your stats like
24:07
you can in basketball. I think it's a lot harder as
24:10
like from that way to rig a game.
24:12
But can the league shape the the season the way they want it to?
24:16
I think they've done it and I think they continue to do so.
24:19
I I would say I'll agree with that.
24:21
But the rest of it, I don't think so.
24:23
The one thing it's. Actually easier for in football
24:25
is because there's a shorter season.
24:26
Like it's easier to say, all right, we one more game could
24:29
help this team get in. Then all of a sudden you can get
24:32
the desired outcome or desired matchup to get the money revenue
24:35
to get the playoff matchup that you want to.
24:37
That or maybe is more controllable compared to
24:40
basketball where there's 82 games.
24:41
It's hard to control. Basketball is probably easier
24:43
for the player to manipulate than the if it were to be in
24:46
football. But yeah, for a shorter season
24:49
for football, it's easier. I'm I may be able to get on the
24:54
show a former referee that was with Bevetta and knows Tim
25:00
Donaghy and was actually in this.
25:03
He was one of the guys that was an undercover cop that was like
25:07
in the mob as an undercover cop before he was an NBA referee.
25:11
So remind me, I think I can get that guy on to see if we can get
25:14
some real rigging stories. He might not be.
25:18
He might not be at Bay to say though, you know?
25:21
I think he's retired. So I think this is a guy that
25:24
may tell us. Guys like to tell you stories,
25:27
you know, Jabba. What do you think, man?
25:32
I, I think there's some of it in, in every sport to an extent
25:36
it there, there's just so many things that we've seen where it
25:41
just it, it's hard not to believe it to, to some degree,
25:45
especially when like you're already in pocket with the
25:48
betting and you're getting money like and when where there's
25:53
smoke, there's fire, right? It's like an iceberg, what you
25:56
just see on the surface, but there's so much more to to what,
26:01
like you said, do you do you? I think all of it is, and I
26:03
agree with you, fish. I don't think it all is, but are
26:06
there are there some things like is it, is it scripted to?
26:10
And I remember that Aaron Foster like they showed like the pieces
26:13
of paper and it was highlighted or whatever.
26:15
Like I there's, there's got to be something to it if we've if
26:22
it keeps repeating itself, right?
26:24
I, I just don't know what I, I would hope it's not crazy
26:28
embedded in the game, but it's just like how I, I just, it's,
26:33
it's very hypocritical to me that you can own 10% of it and
26:37
affect affected that like affected that way, But you get a
26:42
guy like Boo. What's to stop me from throwing
26:46
this incomplete pass at the end of the third quarter?
26:48
Because there's a lot, you know what I'm saying?
26:49
Like not that they know that exact one, but it's like
26:53
anything. It's like the, the dude singing
26:55
the national anthem. I'm giving all my buddies 100
26:58
grand because they said I'm going to go under a minute and
27:00
42 seconds and I'm just going to make it longer.
27:04
Like it's kind of the same thing, just on a different
27:07
scale. But I think there's some
27:09
validity to it. I don't think it's totally
27:12
embedded in it. It's good.
27:15
I mean, it's a good, it's a good topic.
27:17
It's good, it's good. We need to have two like in
27:20
goodies bag of balls when it comes up.
27:22
Like there's got to be like a UFO sighting in like the top
27:24
right corner or something, just because always.
27:26
I got I got this one. Where is it?
27:31
You got 1 crazier. A screwball.
27:36
I mean, there's definitely a few out there.
27:38
There's a guy who like picked up a meteor in Brazil or something
27:41
and now it's turning to looking like a venom.
27:44
You have to go down the rabbit hole in that one.
27:46
I'm sure you see that on social media.
27:48
That's that. Is a wild.
27:50
One wait, you're telling me there are Venoms in Brazil?
27:52
Is that what you just said? I think it's in Brazil, Yeah.
27:55
I don't know. I mean, I'm like on the fence
27:57
with that one. I'm not too sure.
27:59
I haven't really looked into it too much.
28:00
It's popped up on my feeds a couple times and I've kind of
28:03
just dabbled in it, but I'm not like bullying it because I think
28:06
that sounds kind of BS, but you know, it's, they're there,
28:11
they're out there. Oh no, they're, they're for
28:13
sure. And there's some you're just
28:15
like, oh, that, that, that really, I can't argue with it.
28:20
And then there's some are like, what, what is he smoking?
28:23
Because that's the one from the Brazil one.
28:28
Like like the, that's the one. I'm just like, I don't know,
28:31
man. It looks like a potato, you
28:32
know, And now, then and now he's like CGI and some Venom shit
28:37
that's just like coming out everywhere and like wrapping
28:39
around things. It's kind of wild looking.
28:41
I mean, you get a wild hair. I would just go down it and take
28:45
a look. But the last fall I got is MLB
28:49
viewership is surging during the wild card round and on into the
28:55
AL and NL divisional series. ESPN coverage of 2025 MLB wild
29:02
card game Saul record viewership, especially among
29:05
younger fans. I think everybody is doing this
29:08
6 seven thing, whatever that is, but.
29:12
It this. Right here suggests that MLB is
29:15
here and it's here to stay. We've got we've got a really
29:17
good strong appeal for the younger fans and and all the
29:21
games were high stake. I think they all came down to
29:24
game three maybe -1 Series in LA and just being around youth
29:31
baseball. You can tell the kids are fired
29:33
up about it, super excited, like actually genuinely wanting to
29:36
watch the game and watch their favorite players.
29:39
And it's good to have a good mix of, you know, star power and
29:43
then, you know, bigger market teams and then these smaller
29:46
market teams that are planned. Like, listen, the Brewers are
29:49
just unbelievable. Like, and you asked any of the
29:53
kids now and they probably maybe know one or two guys on the
29:57
Brewers maybe. And so well, what's crazy goody,
30:01
what's crazy too? And why I think like it has, you
30:05
know, surge and it is continues to go up is because they've
30:09
they've kind of tried to they've, I guess, adhered to
30:14
like the cultural standards of what things are like, you know,
30:17
you got to have drips swag, like, and they're letting them
30:20
have it. Like Naylor, look at look at his
30:23
arm sleeve in his shoes. Like little kids love that
30:26
stuff, you know what I'm saying? And like just the individualism
30:30
that they let him do with their gloves, their spikes where it
30:33
used to be. You could never do it.
30:35
Then it was players weekend right now it's kind of it's kind
30:40
of just grown into like now let's let them be there.
30:44
You know, to to a degree, like you're not going to be Mr. T and
30:48
like have 38 chains on. You can wear one or two.
30:51
Used to be just one. Now some people get away with
30:53
two. But you can have custom cleats
30:55
all the time and like kids see that and it's like, oh, it's
30:59
cool to play baseball. Like I can design my cleats or,
31:02
you know, now bats have dope logos instead of just the plain
31:05
just east in Louisville, just whatever.
31:08
So I think and then now, you know, you got pencil bats,
31:11
you've got all these kind of super cool lollipop bats or ice
31:14
cream nuts. Well, and that's like, you see
31:18
it, you see it obviously from the youth level with your kids.
31:20
And like, you know, they're, oh, I got the trouts or I've got,
31:24
you know, whoever's cleats. Like where that really wasn't a
31:27
thing in baseball. It was always basketball
31:29
related. And so I think they've done a
31:31
really good job that's brought in for younger.
31:35
Yeah, the younger, the younger generation, because the baseball
31:39
old ads are going to be baseball dads.
31:41
They're going to be the ones that are fighting with the young
31:43
kids that create dialogue. Be like if you would have known
31:46
back in the day when they could have slid into second, knock
31:48
each other out, fought and then got back up and stayed in the
31:51
in, like you're going to be brought back.
31:54
Just my opinion. I think if we could have
31:57
baseball blend a little bit of hockey rules into it where like
32:02
if both players agree and they throw their gloves down, it's on
32:07
UNC viewership 100X. Well, I mean, you just there.
32:13
I remember stories back in the day and you probably heard him
32:15
too. It was like one of my favorite
32:17
ones was literally Hark, who obviously, you know as well, the
32:21
bullpen coach, which was crazy. He was in the Ken Griffey
32:24
Junior. He was supposed to be the number
32:26
one pick. They they ended up taking a dude
32:28
named Ken Griffey Junior instead of my car.
32:30
Love Hark to death. That is my dude.
32:32
Like to this day, we still talk, but I think they made the right
32:35
pick in old Griffey. But they literally Sean Dunstan
32:39
and Ryan Sandberg. They're literally like I think I
32:42
don't remember who was throwing, but Dustin took off his chain
32:45
was like, hold this, I'm going to get him.
32:46
They hit our guy, they fought, they both dust each other off.
32:49
They got back in the box and it was over.
32:51
Like I love seeing that stuff. If you, if you could get, but
32:56
how do you balance that? And then, you know, everybody's
32:59
like, oh, there's no place for retaliation.
33:00
Well, sticking up for your team mates in the right way.
33:03
There's something to be said about it.
33:06
If you could balance it out, it'd be sweet.
33:08
I, I mean, you know, like what you maybe you, I mean, listen,
33:13
they're changing the game how it is.
33:14
Just let the boys fight a little bit.
33:16
You know, that's kind of my point.
33:18
And I was thinking about Goody is I think it's, you know,
33:21
Errol, you know, pushes back on some of the changes.
33:24
Theo Epstein, who's been working with baseball after he's, you
33:29
know, left managing historic franchises with historic wins,
33:33
starting with Boston, moving on now, this guy is now responsible
33:39
for a lot of this, you know, ABS stuff that we're going to see
33:41
next year. These the bigger bases, the
33:45
faster games, the pitch clock. Apparently it's working.
33:50
That's what that's my take from this.
33:53
The stuff they're doing is working.
33:54
They're getting a young audience.
33:56
They're trying to. This is what they've been trying
33:59
to do. Maybe they didn't tell us all
34:01
the things they were trying to do as far as attracting the
34:03
youth, but obviously making the game quicker, having there be
34:07
less downtime, have it be, I guess, more exciting for kids
34:11
who are just stuck looking at phones all day for the most
34:14
part. In New York, they actually
34:16
banned phones in school. So it's kind of wild to see kids
34:19
operate without phones from 7:30 to 2:00 every day.
34:23
You know, like they just like fiend for it, like crackheads at
34:25
times, you know, like they just need to go run to their locker
34:29
and get on their phone. Or like they try to find a way
34:31
around it with a Chromebook or something like that and still
34:34
talk to their friends and do that with their same stuff.
34:36
It's it's wild. And I think you have to, it's a
34:38
different generation. And the fact that they're making
34:41
some games with a very difficult generation to reach, in my
34:45
opinion, I think that's that's a pretty big deal for baseball
34:48
going forwards. And I think Theo Epstein
34:50
deserves a bunch of credit. It's also one of those things I
34:54
think you look at like strategy game in baseball, like the the
34:58
aspect of it being an untimed thing.
35:00
And now you're incorporating new strategies and whether it would
35:03
work or not to try to accommodate for the speed and
35:05
accommodate for the pace of some of these younger fans that are
35:08
just going to want to watch the game for the excitement, not as
35:11
much for the strategy. Like you see a lot of the people
35:14
even my age or even older than that, or players of your era and
35:17
even before that, that appreciate the game's nuances.
35:20
You're not getting that as much as city was.
35:22
Some of these younger fans, unfortunately, like you would in
35:25
basketball or you wouldn't football as the highlight reel
35:27
things too. And it's just harder with also
35:29
the local TV networks with everything that happened at them
35:31
to them trying to get back on track.
35:33
We've had a lot of different guests that have mentioned
35:34
that's been the biggest downfall with baseball.
35:36
But now that that's getting getting picked up again, now
35:38
you're going to see the results. No, definitely.
35:42
I, I mean, I think it would just think the changes will, you
35:46
know, everything heals with time and you know, it's always a
35:49
culture shock when they make the changes right off the rib.
35:52
But I mean things are still being implemented.
35:57
The ABS will be coming here like you mentioned last year, you
36:02
know, put the new playoff rules every or the new playoff format
36:05
and everything, which I think has been pretty good.
36:07
The the pitch clock and the the only you can, you know, each
36:11
pitcher has to face 3 hitters and then you can only pick off X
36:15
amount of times. Like at some point it'll just be
36:19
like, oh, wait, you played in the 90s.
36:22
Like, Oh, my gosh, that was barbaric, you know, But if we're
36:26
getting younger kids and the game is safer, you know, as long
36:30
as as long as the youth is still watching it and baseball is
36:32
still a thing, which I think, you know, it is.
36:35
And it's here to stay and it always has been here to stay.
36:37
It's America's pastime. I think we're in a good spot.
36:40
And if you think Theo Epstein deserves the credit, then, yeah,
36:43
give credit where credit's due. I mean, there's always going to
36:46
be people who want to push back. But at the end of the day, like,
36:49
hey, viewership is surging. You know what that means?
36:52
Bigger TV deals, bigger TV deals.
36:54
We have more money in these guys pockets so.
36:58
Amen. How can you argue with that?
37:00
You're saying a good thing baseball's in a good place right
37:03
now, or at least a better place than it was, and we're in a
37:06
better place right now because we just finished the show.
37:08
That's been a great show tonight, guys.
37:10
I thought it was a real good show.
37:12
Special thanks to Thomas Caranante fan side is content
37:16
director, Co host of the Yanks Go Yard podcast.
37:19
Follow him at X at Tommy's under score takes and find his channel
37:24
on YouTube. He was fantastic.
37:26
Really good stuff on the Yankees earlier tonight.
37:29
We had a lot of fun. Thanks.
37:30
Special thanks to Jake and Armando Horda coming on talking
37:34
about their beloved Penn State Nittany Lions and the struggles
37:38
they're dealing with over here. And a real special thanks to our
37:42
intern Jared, who did all the work backstage as a producer for
37:45
the first time while I'm here in the in the host chair.
37:48
That's a great job by you, Jared.
37:49
Thank you for all the work that you put in tonight, was.
37:52
Jared was rocking a jersey too. What jersey was he rocking?
37:54
Yeah, Jared, come on into the the screen.
37:56
You deserve to be in here for a little bit at the end of the
37:59
show. You got some kind of Basketball
38:01
Jersey going where we got you. I'll, I'll do it Speedy.
38:07
Here, here, I'll bounce out. No.
38:09
No, you're fine. It's just me and Speedy are
38:10
having a war of who's going to add us, add Jarrett right now
38:13
with our clicker fingers. Jarrett, I think you might be
38:16
frozen. So we're not going to see it
38:18
right now, unfortunately. But Jarrett's done a great job
38:22
for us. Errol will be back.
38:25
We're not having the show on Wednesday because he's not going
38:27
to be back. So we're going to have it on
38:28
Thursday. So pay attention.
38:30
The show will be on Thursday. By then, we'll know if the
38:33
Yankees are going to Game 5 or we're doing a post mortem on the
38:36
season. Also Thursday, speedy, the
38:38
Giants face the Eagles. We're going to have to do the
38:41
show live while that's going on. I don't know if I can handle
38:45
that. That's going to be tough.
38:46
One. I think they're going to get
38:47
absolutely murdered. It's it's not good.
38:50
It's not a good look for the Giants.
38:52
But maybe the Eagles are a little, you know, struggling a
38:55
little bit. Maybe Brian Dabel and Shane
38:57
Bowen will cook something up for him.
38:59
Speedy to only. Lose by 14.
39:04
Honestly, if they lose, I guess losing is losing at this point,
39:07
but I do hope it's a little bit competitive.
39:10
Well, it should be good on Thursday.
39:11
Who do you who do we have coming on Thursday?
39:13
Alright, well, thanks to the the new King of the Jungle for
39:16
getting us these two guests, 2 very special guests.
39:20
First one is Jane Butler. She's the CEO of the nonprofit
39:23
organization Encourage Kids Foundation, based out of based
39:27
out of New York, supporting hospitalized children.
39:30
She'll, she'll be the first one. And the second one is a
39:32
celebrity chef, Glenn Rolnick, who is the director of culinary
39:35
operations for the Ala Carte Restaurant Group, where he's
39:39
worked there for the last 11 years in New York City.
39:41
So both of them will be joining us at 8:45.
39:44
That's great. You know, we've been trying to
39:46
talk about get with some of these people that do these kind
39:48
of functions, get our name out there, be be a part of some of
39:52
those better functions that are going on, especially charitable
39:55
things. That's something that job in the
39:56
mouth is going to be looking forward to doing in the next
39:59
calendar year. You guys are going to see us
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