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The Bolt Report | 6 March · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: It's the good report.
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  Speaker 2: Look before anything, let's go straight to the latest on
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  Speaker 2: Cyclone Alfred, which last night decided unexpectedly to dawdle off
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  Speaker 2: Queensland before lurching our way again.
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  Speaker 3: Hurricane Alfred is behaving at the moment like a completely
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  Speaker 3: unwanted HouseGuest has told us that it's going to be late,
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  Speaker 3: but linger even longer.
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  Speaker 2: But now the cyclone has poised to smashed into the
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  Speaker 2: Queensland New South Wales coast, probably early Saturday. Who knows.
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  Speaker 2: It's still a category two. Some hopes it might even
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  Speaker 2: decay to a category one, but it is already causing
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  Speaker 2: havoc seven hundred calls to Queensland's sees for help. By
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  Speaker 2: mid afternoon, ten thousand homes and businesses in New South
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  Speaker 2: Wales were without power, warning to residents in the region
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  Speaker 2: around liz More to evacuate from areas likely to be
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  Speaker 2: cut off by rising water and right in the path
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  Speaker 2: of this cyclone if it hits land, which it will.
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  Speaker 2: Right in the path as far as we can make
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  Speaker 2: out is the Morton Bakerbulcher area. Joining me is Peter Flannery,
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  Speaker 2: the mayor there. Peter, thank you so much for your
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  Speaker 2: time and what must be really hectic appearing for you.
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  Speaker 2: It seems it really feels like Queensland Northern New South
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  Speaker 2: Wales been preparing for a week or more for this cyclone.
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  Speaker 2: What's been done in your area to save people from
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  Speaker 2: the worst.
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  Speaker 4: It certainly has Andrew and we're before in the cyclone
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  Speaker 4: probably intensely. For the last five or six days. We've
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  Speaker 4: tried to pre prepare our communities with sand bags and
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  Speaker 4: sand that they can prepare their properties for the flooding
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  Speaker 4: effect that's going to come with this rain event and
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  Speaker 4: this cyclone when it hits. The biggest thing we've been
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  Speaker 4: pushing also is to be aware of the wind factor
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  Speaker 4: that's coming with this cyclone.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully fingers crossed.
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  Speaker 4: Like you said, it could be downgraded to a category
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  Speaker 4: two when it hits land.
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  Speaker 2: But we're preparing for the worst.
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  Speaker 4: I hope for the best.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to your.
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  Speaker 4: People who probably haven't seen a cyclone in the southeast
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  Speaker 4: Queensland for over fifty years, to prepare for it, to
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  Speaker 4: put the right measurements in place, and if they are
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  Speaker 4: going to leave their properties, go to family and friends
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  Speaker 4: if they're not sure, or of our evacuation centers, but
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  Speaker 4: make that decision early before the cyclone actually hits, which
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  Speaker 4: could be like I said, late Soday, sorry, late Friday
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  Speaker 4: night and early Friday morning, late Friday night, early Saturday morning.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows anymore? Could stall again? Peter, it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: been so impressed that you compare it to the cyclone
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  Speaker 2: Tracy Days. The political emergency services management of emergencies like
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  Speaker 2: this has been really good for some time now. It's
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  Speaker 2: really impressive. People make it sick of all the constant briefings,
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  Speaker 2: but things are being done. But have you been given
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  Speaker 2: or have you got everything you need or could expect.
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  Speaker 4: It's probably unprecdent demand for sand and sand bags this time.
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  Speaker 4: Andrew our largest event last time, we went through about
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  Speaker 4: a thousand tons of sand. This time we've gone through
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  Speaker 4: three thousand tons of sand and three hundred thousand sand
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  Speaker 4: bags through our community. It's probably the preparation time that
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  Speaker 4: people had a lot more warning than the past when
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  Speaker 4: these events are going to occur. And as I said,
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  Speaker 4: we're having a cyclone for many many decades here, and
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  Speaker 4: usually they're preparing for a flood event, which happens a
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  Speaker 4: lot quicker than these cyclone events. And this cyclone Alfred
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  Speaker 4: has been trotting around for a few weeks now out
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  Speaker 4: there the building and coming in and going out and
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  Speaker 4: trying to make his mind up. But the preparation, I suppose,
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  Speaker 4: the coordination through the state government's been really good. That
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  Speaker 4: they did have the town's issues happening a number of
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  Speaker 4: weeks ago with cycling up there, but the collaboration, coordination
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  Speaker 4: through the state government and support of the federal government
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  Speaker 4: through as well, has been really great. And we're trying
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  Speaker 4: to suppose put the resources in where we think it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be the greatest impact, the greatest damage is
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  Speaker 4: going to occur. But with me around so much, there's
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  Speaker 4: probably at five or six councils in Southeast Queensland preparing
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  Speaker 4: for the worst.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Peter Fannery, all Australia is looking to you guys
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  Speaker 2: and hoping the very very best over the couple of
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  Speaker 2: days ahead. So all the best to you, and thank
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  Speaker 2: you so much for sparing some of your rare time.
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  Speaker 4: All right, thank you, Andrew, take you.
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  Speaker 2: Now. Cyclone Alfred has certainly already blown Anthony Aberneze's election
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  Speaker 2: plans to shreds or so it seems it was all set.
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  Speaker 2: It seemed almost certain, really that we call the election
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  Speaker 2: this weekend or on Monday at the latest, so he
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  Speaker 2: could go to the polls in April twelve. But now
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  Speaker 2: the opposition is saying, how dare you? How could you
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  Speaker 2: call an election on Monday when you got this cyclone
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  Speaker 2: causing havoc and who knows what damage by then even lives,
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  Speaker 2: God spare.
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  Speaker 5: Us, some people all have lost everything that in reality
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  Speaker 5: of these weather events, and to go to an election
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  Speaker 5: at that stage, at that time, I think the Prime
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  Speaker 5: Minister would have a ten year to do that.
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  Speaker 2: And you could see the Prime Minister already today thinking oh,
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  Speaker 2: I might have to wait, which would mean you then
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  Speaker 2: have to hand down a March twenty five budge after all,
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  Speaker 2: most certainly which he doesn't have to if it's called
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  Speaker 2: an election.
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  Speaker 6: You couldn't call an election in the face of a
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  Speaker 6: natural disaster like this. That's just not going to I
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  Speaker 6: mean that will that would be a tin here which
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  Speaker 6: you don't have, that would that couldn't happen surely, Kieren.
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  Speaker 7: I'm focused on not on votes. I'm focused on lives.
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  Speaker 7: I'm focused on Australians, and Australians are showing our character
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  Speaker 7: at this debil time.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 7: What I've been focused on, Karen, is governing. We have
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  Speaker 7: a budget that we're prepared for, and we put out the.
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  Speaker 6: Time sounds like you're delivering the budget.
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  Speaker 7: Well, we put out the timetable of that last year, Karen.
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  Speaker 2: It's all very awkward when you look at the last
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  Speaker 2: states Albaneze has got left to call an election. If
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't call one for the twelfth of April, then
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  Speaker 2: it's April nineteen. Well that's out. That's the April twenty
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  Speaker 2: six is out. That's as it does in the long weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Voters hate being interrupted to vote, which leads May three
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  Speaker 2: ten and the very last day be four times up
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  Speaker 2: May seventeen. Clinging on to the last minute looks too desperate,
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  Speaker 2: So you see why Albanese's plans have gone with the wind.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm not so sure that Albanzi calling the election
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  Speaker 2: on Monday would be a big issue unless there is
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  Speaker 2: a real catastrophe with his cyclone deaths. To be blunt,
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  Speaker 2: I think a far bigger nightmare for him is what
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  Speaker 2: the opposition leader Pitter Dutton, the former policeman, has picked
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  Speaker 2: up on crime, especially youth crime. I mean, what on
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  Speaker 2: earth is going on in our country. I mean, two
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago, a woman in Cans raped allegedly by young
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  Speaker 2: teenagers who invaded her home. Today police are hunting this
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  Speaker 2: man who allegedly broken to five homes just this morning,
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  Speaker 2: has sexually assaulted two women, both in their eighties. But
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  Speaker 2: crime is especially going to hurt Albanizi in Victoria, where
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  Speaker 2: poll show labor is now so unpopular, would lose eight
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  Speaker 2: seats that could decide this election. Now, the crimes of Victoria,
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  Speaker 2: they're just stunning. I mean, just yesterday I saw a
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  Speaker 2: paul In footage of nine teenagers as young as fourteen
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  Speaker 2: allegedly attacking a security guard that had been to go
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  Speaker 2: shopping center, stomping on his head. Even who raises such
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  Speaker 2: children there claims that are seventeen year old. There attacked
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  Speaker 2: people to make viral videos. And then there was this
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  Speaker 2: CCTV footage of men with machetes and yet another home
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  Speaker 2: invasion stealing two cars. And yesterday I read something that
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  Speaker 2: really struck home with me. I think a lot of
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  Speaker 2: voters will be feeling this. Six children, five of them girls,
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  Speaker 2: just twelve to fourteen years old, later arrested for alleged burglary,
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  Speaker 2: screamed and played loud music and shut down a movie
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  Speaker 2: session at another shopping center, and one of them punched
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  Speaker 2: a seat next to a woman, shouting, you can't touch us.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing you can do, nothing you can do. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's probably why locals in a town near me
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately took matters in their own hands the other day
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  Speaker 2: and processed it outside the home of a boy they
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  Speaker 2: knew too well, who now pointed an invitation gun in
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  Speaker 2: the face of a woman and her child. There's nothing
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  Speaker 2: you can do or will do, and approve exactly that.
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  Speaker 2: You check out today's Herold's on front page a magistrate
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  Speaker 2: giving a fifteen year old boy bail, despite admitting the
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  Speaker 2: public would want that boy locked up, despite saying he
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  Speaker 2: actually agreed one hundred percent, he said, with people who
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  Speaker 2: were totally overseeing his kind of offending on a daily basis,
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  Speaker 2: the magistrates still go bail to this boy after he
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  Speaker 2: promised to be good. This is a boy who had
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  Speaker 2: stolen a car in an aggravated burglary, driven that car
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  Speaker 2: to another home that he broke into, stolen another car there,
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  Speaker 2: driven that car up to two hundred and forty kilometers
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  Speaker 2: an hour in the police chase. Sometimes driving on the
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  Speaker 2: wrong side of the road. Murderers had to scatter And
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  Speaker 2: when he was finally arrested, he was found with drugs
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  Speaker 2: in his bag and he was already on bail for
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  Speaker 2: various other alleged defenses. He still got bail. Again, Like
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  Speaker 2: the pharaohs in the cinema said nothing you can do
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  Speaker 2: or will do. And I wonder how we've got so
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  Speaker 2: many teenagers now with no respect to even fearful authority
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  Speaker 2: for police. How did that happen? But I don't wonder
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  Speaker 2: why at all. Why so many people now no longer
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  Speaker 2: trust the law to protect them and in Melbourne are
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  Speaker 2: hiring private security to protect them instead. Bad luck if
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  Speaker 2: you're poor. There was the Victorian premier today babbling that,
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  Speaker 2: oh well maybe this bail stuff, Hey, maybe that's not
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  Speaker 2: quite good enough.
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  Speaker 8: Dr What is clear to me is that our current
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  Speaker 8: settings need to be changed and also joined to line
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  Speaker 8: the community expectations.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but what have you and labor ever done about
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  Speaker 2: it now? Sure crime is not fundamentally a federal issue,
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  Speaker 2: it's a state one. But Peter Dunton, he's picked up
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  Speaker 2: on this. Like I said, former policeman, he's making crime
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  Speaker 2: an issue. He's offering community grants helped locals get together
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  Speaker 2: to improve security and for labor. The problem is that
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  Speaker 2: the crime, the wars overseas, the Chinese ships firing guns
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  Speaker 2: off our coasts, the costs of living crunch. This will
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  Speaker 2: adds up to a sense that we live in times
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  Speaker 2: that are not just more dangerous, these are times when
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  Speaker 2: nothing now seems secure. And who do you look to
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  Speaker 2: in times like that, a week leader or a strong
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  Speaker 2: an alban Easy or a Peter Dutton In Victoria that
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  Speaker 2: is now a question that costs Albanezi the election. Joining
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  Speaker 2: me is another former policeman, Victorian Opposition leader Brad Baton.
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  Speaker 2: Brad Baton, thank you for your time. The magistrates saying
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  Speaker 2: they're to that teenager. Australians want me to lock you
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  Speaker 2: up better, I'll let you go. I promised to be good.
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  Speaker 9: Your response, Yeah, this is what's become of our justice
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  Speaker 9: system here in Victoria. And this isn't the first time
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  Speaker 9: where a magistrate has said that a person will be
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  Speaker 9: unsafe in the community.
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  Speaker 1: They've even had one.
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  Speaker 9: Magistrate said that there's a risk that someone could be
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  Speaker 9: killed if a person was released from custody. Yet they've
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  Speaker 9: been released and I don't blame the magistrates here. They're
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  Speaker 9: working in legislation that was changed by the other labor
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  Speaker 9: government that has made bail easier to get. So if
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  Speaker 9: you have legislation in place that says that a young
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  Speaker 9: person must be effectively have the priority have been released
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  Speaker 9: and community safety is not the priority, then you're going
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  Speaker 9: to end up with issues like this where magistrates are
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  Speaker 9: going to say what they think but then have to
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  Speaker 9: rule by law and let these young kids back out,
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  Speaker 9: and not just young kids, other people as well who
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  Speaker 9: have also committed offense whilst on bail.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so you're blaming the law, not the magistrate. What
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  Speaker 2: would you do about it?
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  Speaker 1: We would fix the law.
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  Speaker 9: So we've already said we would have an absolute priority
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  Speaker 9: to remove and sorry reverse the changes that were made
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  Speaker 9: in March twenty three. What happened then was it used
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  Speaker 9: to be an offense to commit an offense whilst on bail,
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  Speaker 9: so therefore when you went before a magistrate it was
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  Speaker 9: more difficult to get bail each time and community safety
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  Speaker 9: was the priority. We would fix that if we were
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  Speaker 9: elected in March in November twenty twenty six, we would
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  Speaker 9: make sure it's our priority to get it through this
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  Speaker 9: Parliament to ensure the community safety is number one and
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  Speaker 9: those that offend on more occasion than once they would
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  Speaker 9: have to then go back into the remand rather than
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  Speaker 9: back into the streets.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't get what's going on, Brad. To be honest,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to pretend everything was rosy
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  Speaker 2: in the past. You know, when I first moved to
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  Speaker 2: Melbourne for five years ago, so there was violence on
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  Speaker 2: the waterfront as you remember waterfront wars, as there were murders,
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  Speaker 2: even the mafia was committing hits as well. There later
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  Speaker 2: some terrible mass shootings as well. But I've got to
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  Speaker 2: be asked to I do not recall teenagers being this violent,
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  Speaker 2: this prone to attacking people in their own homes, this
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  Speaker 2: contemptuous of police and your experience. Has there been a change.
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  Speaker 9: There has been a dramatic change because young people you're
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  Speaker 9: seeing it on social media where they're openly saying I
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  Speaker 9: can commit this.
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  Speaker 1: Crime and be back on the street ninety minutes.
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  Speaker 9: If there's no consequences for your actions, then you continuously
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  Speaker 9: get worse.
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  Speaker 1: That is why we said we need to change it.
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  Speaker 9: I remember, as a police officer back in the two thousands,
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  Speaker 9: we would get called to someone's house because their TV
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  Speaker 9: was missing because the offenders came in during the day
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  Speaker 9: when no one was home.
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  Speaker 1: Now they have no fear.
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  Speaker 9: They come in at night, they come in with weapons,
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  Speaker 9: they steal cars, they drive at two hundred plus kilometers
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  Speaker 9: an hours. Are getting worse, they're getting more risk or
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  Speaker 9: they're obviously be taking more risks and this is putting
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  Speaker 9: more people and the community at higher risk of injury
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  Speaker 9: and death.
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  Speaker 1: We've already seen We've seen it in Bendigo, we see
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  Speaker 1: it in Melbourne. We see it Jura. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: where you live.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you've actually had to deal with criminals yourself. What
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  Speaker 2: is it do you think that's happening here? Are we
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  Speaker 2: talking about? Are we talking about Internet? I think social
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  Speaker 2: media obviously has a role to play. I mean they're
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  Speaker 2: getting clicks at least the more notorious who are, the
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  Speaker 2: more famous you are, and they don't care if it's famous.
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  Speaker 2: Something bad is drugs? Is a police Is it bad policing?
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  Speaker 2: Is it very bad parenting? What has changed?
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  Speaker 9: First of all, I think the police are doing a
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  Speaker 9: remarkable job. They've arrested seventy thousand people over the last
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  Speaker 9: twelve months. So what they're doing is obviously working. The
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  Speaker 9: problem is the laws have changed and therefore the consequences
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  Speaker 9: are gone. When you're a parent, you know that you
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  Speaker 9: set boundaries for your child, and you'll see some kids
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  Speaker 9: who have had no boundaries set for them that they
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  Speaker 9: tend to have a higher risk of going off rails
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  Speaker 9: causing more problems. This is exactly the same as the
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  Speaker 9: justice system. If you don't put the boundaries around these
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  Speaker 9: kids and create what the expectations are, then they will continue.
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  Speaker 1: To behave in ways.
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  Speaker 9: They become more and more violent. I actually say right now,
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  Speaker 9: I don't think it's drugs. I don't think it's a
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  Speaker 9: change in other things in the society. These kids are
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  Speaker 9: just saying now they want to go out and take risks.
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  Speaker 9: They're taking such high risks to drive these cars super fast.
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  Speaker 9: They're not selling them for money, they're not trying to
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  Speaker 9: get money for a habit. They're doing it for fun.
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  Speaker 9: That needs to be a change in the system to say, well,
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  Speaker 9: that's not acceptable here in our state, that's not acceptable
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  Speaker 9: in our country.
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  Speaker 1: We would fix the laws to make sure that doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: I think people are looking for some sign that the
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  Speaker 2: government cannot be floundered like this. The law's going to
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  Speaker 2: be flounded like this. Something's going to be that. I'm
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  Speaker 2: astonished that it's been let to left to drag on
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  Speaker 2: for so long and get this bad before the government
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  Speaker 2: starts saying something about it and is just discussing. Brad Batton,
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much indeed for your time.
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  Speaker 1: Norris, thank you, Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: Wow Just on the eve of the Prime Minister according
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  Speaker 2: an election, his Environment Minister Tanya Plimouse says, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to approve three more wind farms. Pliver Secer said
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  Speaker 2: yes to three more in New South Wales, including ones
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  Speaker 2: that locals have been fighting in the country south of
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  Speaker 2: Tambor for years, sixty two turbines that will be dominating
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  Speaker 2: the landscape. This is a mock up of it. This
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  Speaker 2: was This is really going to tick off the local
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  Speaker 2: member who happens to be by sheer coincidence. My Thursday
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  Speaker 2: regular commentator joining me is that local member Nationals Front
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  Speaker 2: Benure Barnaby Joyce, the former Deputy Prime Minister. Barnaby Really,
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  Speaker 2: what is going on here?
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  Speaker 3: I am ticked off and so should your listeners be
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  Speaker 3: ticked off. Let's just look at it. What you saw
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  Speaker 3: those turbines that you just showed in that clip, that's
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  Speaker 3: about the equivalent of one turbine at Base Water Power Station.
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  Speaker 3: So you'd have one turbine or you can completely destroy
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  Speaker 3: the environment.
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  Speaker 10: At Nundle there was Koala habitat.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry.
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  Speaker 10: Was bulldoze that they're sugar glider habitat. Don't worry, just
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  Speaker 10: bulldoze that they want just.
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  Speaker 3: Got transmission lines through the places, sort of like running
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  Speaker 3: a extension cord through.
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  Speaker 10: Your house, where the government then then buys a little.
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  Speaker 3: Bit of your carpet and has access to a twenty
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  Speaker 3: four seven for the rest of your life, pays you
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  Speaker 3: the nominal fee.
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  Speaker 10: But the big thing about it, of course, is it's
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  Speaker 10: all a swindle.
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  Speaker 3: These are innoventive power precincts owned by overseas companies, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: the best way to think of it is like finger
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: this is a powersack.
• 17:52
  Speaker 10: A powersack. It's they sell power in five minute lots,
• 17:56
  Speaker 10: so a little bit of a breathe, a little bit
• 17:57
  Speaker 10: of a.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Sun and they go in and bit and the bottom
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: is into minute power, and they'll bid for twenty units
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: of one hundred maybe, and they'll bid it for a
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: negative price.
• 18:06
  Speaker 10: That's so good.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: And then coal comes in because they don't have all
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: the power they need, and it.
• 18:12
  Speaker 10: Bids in for fifty sixty. And then gas comes in
• 18:15
  Speaker 10: it's one hundred.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: And then they still haven't got enough, so they go
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: to batteries and they want three hundred and fifty four hundred.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Now you think that the interimndent power people are that
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: wind hower you're looking at right now, that the.
• 18:27
  Speaker 10: Price they bited at would be the price they got.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: No, they get the top price, and then everybody gets
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: part of a swindle, even thoughse wind tows you see
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: now as the investment schemes, even if they're not turning,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: not producing power ladies and gentlemen, they get paid even
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: be marvelous like a property that doesn't produce cattle, but
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: they bag you anyhow.
• 18:48
  Speaker 10: And of course there's a product that you got to
• 18:50
  Speaker 10: buy it. You got to buy it.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: The result of all this, of course, is your power
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: bill is going through the roof.
• 18:55
  Speaker 10: And unless you stand up and say, I'm.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Over interimitate power, over being ripped off, I'm over having
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: my money sent overseas.
• 19:03
  Speaker 10: I'm over the.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Taxpayer back peddling these things in. I'm over this whole swindle.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Then your power bell is going to keep on going
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: up and up and up, and your cost of living
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: will still will raise the way beyond your capacity to
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: manage it, because everything needs electricity.
• 19:19
  Speaker 10: But bowen, because.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: It's like it's almost it's almost bizarre. It's almost like
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: it's almost like an asylum. He keeps on saying, he
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: fix it, your powers fixed, and everything's fine.
• 19:30
  Speaker 10: Trouble is, when your power bill turns up, it's to
• 19:32
  Speaker 10: the roof.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: But in the meantime, we've had this desecration of the landscape.
• 19:37
  Speaker 10: We've had this absolute swindle.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Point and you pay for about to be I'd pay,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I'd pay, I'd pay extra. I'd pay that extra for
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: renewable power if it wasn't for the fact that, look
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: at what's happening to the landscape, it's a desecration. I'd
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: rather pay that extra power for a renewal for a
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: nuclear engine that works twenty four to seven and you
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: can tuck away in one pocket of the country without this.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: They have to put them on the highest hills in
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the area, so you can see it for miles and
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: miles and miles around. Where are the environmentalists who used
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: to think you know, if you put a little building
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: on a piece of nature that was so shocking, but
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: they stand by silent. Well this happens. I don't get it, Barnaby,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: apart from hypocrisy. Meanwhile, labor Labs's responsible for pulling them
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: down when they narrobly run. Well then, well we're seeing
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: that in south of Victoria right now. I think one
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: of the earliest wind farms now is to our economic
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: to run, to our economic to replace. What do you
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: do with all that concrete that they're all bases that
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: they're all standing on. That's the big question. Who's paying
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: for that? Meanwhile labor is making noises, Barnaby, nothing more
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: than noises. As yet, no concrete plans about maybe buying
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: back the lease of the ported dart back from China
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: through the Chinese owner land Bridge, although Landbridge now says,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: oh no, no, it's not for sale. Handing it to China,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you was one of the terrible
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: decisions made by the Northern Territory seal Pea government back then.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: We're Malcolm Turnbull, your Malcolm Turnbull was Prime Minister. What
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: do you think should be done now?
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Well, I believe that it should it's look, what else
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: do we need to know about China? They just put
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: a flotilla of ships and then off Sydney Harbor they
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: start firing off missiles and everybody thinks that nothing to
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: see here. Then they circumnavigated Australia. We had to wait
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: to the USS Minnesota and Nuclear Submarine to start tracking
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: them and went out with the Colin Stars submarine.
• 21:44
  Speaker 10: We couldn't we couldn't even rely on.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: We had to rely in a virgin plane to tell
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: us about this, and we had to lie on the
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: New Zealand Navy to monitor it. Now, I think that
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: anybody starts firing missiles off the coast, it's not the
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: person who should be owning a port in data.
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: Maybe a bit old fashioned, but I just think.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: That that was, I agree with you, a very very
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: bad idea and it should never have it should never
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: have been allowed to happen.
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: And if it can reverse that decision, that's precisely.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: What we should do.
• 22:12
  Speaker 10: But of course the China is not too keen. They've
• 22:15
  Speaker 10: got a foothold in there. You've got a port in
• 22:17
  Speaker 10: Darwin in Australia. I mean, maybe when the flotilla gets
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: around to Darlin. They can dot there and I know
• 22:27
  Speaker 10: the fly themselves moves.
• 22:28
  Speaker 11: And all like that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Refuel for another lap. Yeah, they can pop in for
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: a little top up and a chop top and then
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: go for another lap of Australia firing their guns. Bunnaby Joyce,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time after the break well,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Speaking of China, it's stunning threat to Donald Trump. It
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: says we're prepared for war and the US response, so
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: are we. China has just threatened Donald Trump like he
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: threatens other countries, told Trump in an astonishing tweet, it
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: is ready for war. This was after Trump this week
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: double the tariffs and Chinese inputs at twenty percent. China's
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: embassy in Washington tweeted on Tuesday, if war is what
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the US wants, be the tariff for a trade war
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: or any other type of war, We're ready to fight
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: till the end. He is an embassy spokesman.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: All butser finding lethole.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: In response overnight, Trump's gung ho new Defense Secretary Pete
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Hegseth talked tough right back.
• 23:41
  Speaker 12: We're prepared. Those who long for peace must prepare for war.
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: That's why we're rebuilding our military. They don't seek that war.
• 23:49
  Speaker 12: We will, and the President has sought historic peace and
• 23:52
  Speaker 12: historic opportunities. But my job as the Secretary of Defense
• 23:55
  Speaker 12: is to make sure we're ready.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Now. There's a lot to like about Donald Trump, and
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: have to say some things I don't. A lot of
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: people have loved watching Donald Trump smack around the president
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: of Ukraine, telling him is week forcing him to cave
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: in to a deal that may help the US but
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: could mean the end of President Zelenski's country. They've also
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: liked Trump bullying another democratic ally, Canada, almost this week,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: working it with the twenty five percent tariff this week
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: and jeering that it should become America's fifty first state.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Canada's Prime minister said he couldn't understand Trump doing something
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: so dumb and destructive, So.
• 24:37
  Speaker 13: We actually have to fall back on the one thing
• 24:39
  Speaker 13: he has said repeatedly that what he wants is to
• 24:42
  Speaker 13: see a total collapse of the Canadian economy because that'll
• 24:47
  Speaker 13: make it easier to annex us.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: But what happens when Trump tries his strong arm stuff
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: not against weak allies like Ukraine or Canada, maybe Australia
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: one day, but against the Chinese dictatorship, which has spent
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: years beefing up its massive military and yesterday very pointedly
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: announced an even bigger increase in military spending. Some, by
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the way, say the China threat is exactly why Trump
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: wants the war and Ukraine ended right now, at whatever
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: price Ukraine must pay. And it's also said that Trump
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: hopes then to get Russian President Vladimir Putin to switch sides,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: to give up his alliance with China what China and
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Russia both call their no limits partnership, and that's why
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Trump is perhaps treating Ukraine like dirt. Well that actually say,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: if that is the plan, the hopes of winning over
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Russia do not seem great at all, or the price
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: will be far too high. But even that doesn't explain
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: why Trump is now not just stop sending weapons to Ukraine,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: but stopped his military from sharing intelligence on Russian troop
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: movements and targets. I mean, how can the US get
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the best deal possible from Russia when it's already made
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Ukraine even weaker, encouraging Russia to hang on maybe keep fighting.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Ukraine has been stripped of protection from Russian missiles, stripped
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: of the intelligence on how to hit back at Russian
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: forces attacking it. Russia now knows it's got the whip
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: hand with Trump's help. In fact, two weeks ago it
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: said it would accept nothing less than the surrender of
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Ukraine's territories in the east, with no membership of NATA
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: to predict Ukraine from further Russian invasions, and it has
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: not offered a single concession since for a ceasefire. Ukraine
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: has been thrown to the walls, and China now smells
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the weakness of the West. Joining me is Malcolm Davis,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: an expert on China's militarization, is from the Australian Strategic
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Policy Institute. Malcolm, thank you so much for your time.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: It seems to me China's wolf worried diplomacy that was
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: put in the fridge. I think a year or so
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: ago is again, what do you make off it's aggressive
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: tweak to the US that it is ready for war
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: and ready to fight to the end.
• 27:08
  Speaker 14: Look, I think your summary was quite good in the
• 27:10
  Speaker 14: sense that China sens is weakness in the Trump administration.
• 27:14
  Speaker 14: Trump is trying to portray it as strength, but it's
• 27:16
  Speaker 14: anything but. Trump is engaging in a strategy of complete
• 27:21
  Speaker 14: capitulation to Moscow, essentially not only throwing Ukraine to the wolves,
• 27:26
  Speaker 14: but also turning its back on Europe and Europe's security
• 27:30
  Speaker 14: and turning its back on NATO. And China and gigmping
• 27:34
  Speaker 14: are watching all this. They're watching how Trump is behaving.
• 27:37
  Speaker 14: They're watching how it's portraying it's US allies, how it's
• 27:41
  Speaker 14: aligning with Putin and I think Trump the Chinese sense
• 27:47
  Speaker 14: weakness in Trump, so they're probably ratching it up. They're
• 27:51
  Speaker 14: aggressive rhetoric, and I think this is likely to be
• 27:54
  Speaker 14: followed by a ratcheting it up of aggressive behavior, probably
• 27:57
  Speaker 14: in areas around the Taiwan Strait South China Sea. So
• 28:01
  Speaker 14: Trump's strategy is failing miserably.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Well. No one actually knows, right Malcolm, what's going through
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Trump's mind, but there is a strong theory that maybe
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: he's trying to peel Russia away from China, from his
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: alliance with China. Maybe he also just simply wants Ukraine
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: finished up whatever cost, to clear the decks for exactly
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: this potential war with China that a lot of people
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: have said is maybe only a few years away. Does
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: any of that justify what's going on? Do you give
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: credence to this well.
• 28:38
  Speaker 14: The first theory is what's known as the reverse Kissinger,
• 28:41
  Speaker 14: basically a link back to the Cold War when Henry
• 28:44
  Speaker 14: Kissinger detached the Soviet Union from China, or the vice
• 28:50
  Speaker 14: versa in fact, but that was a very different period
• 28:54
  Speaker 14: when China and the Soviet Union were enemies, they were adversaries,
• 28:58
  Speaker 14: they were fighting each other in military conflicts.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: The situation now is completely different.
• 29:03
  Speaker 14: And if Trump and the Trump administration think that they're
• 29:07
  Speaker 14: going to somehow detach Russia and detach Putin from this
• 29:12
  Speaker 14: no limits partnership with China, they're deleting themselves. I think
• 29:16
  Speaker 14: that both China and Russia are working together to undermine
• 29:20
  Speaker 14: US power around the world, and they see opportunity as
• 29:25
  Speaker 14: a result of Trump's weakness. Your second theory in terms
• 29:28
  Speaker 14: of is Trump preparing the decks for a major war
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: with China. I mean, that's possibility, but that the price
• 29:35
  Speaker 14: we're going to pay using his strategy of abandoning Ukraine,
• 29:39
  Speaker 14: appeasing Russia in the same way that France and Britain
• 29:44
  Speaker 14: appeased Nazi Germany in Munich in nineteen thirty eight, and
• 29:48
  Speaker 14: essentially turning the US back on NATO and destroying the
• 29:53
  Speaker 14: NATO alliance is too high a price to pay. We
• 29:56
  Speaker 14: should be able to assure the security of our allies,
• 30:00
  Speaker 14: protect Ukraine and stand up to China at the same time.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: The analogy is perfect. You remember, of course, Britain and
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: other powers bullying Czechoslovakia into giving up the Sheditan land
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: part of its own land in exchange for peace. In fact,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: the rest of Czechoslovaki was, or the Czech Republic or
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: whatever it was, was the swallowed up by the Nazis. Anyway, Malcolm,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: we have already seen what looks like China preparing for war.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: It's had ships cut two underwater data cables in Europe
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: in the Baltic last November. It's cut cables between Taiwan's
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: main island and a small one that was just recently
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: an accident. China claims. We've also had Chinese ships off
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: our coast last month firing guns to scare US, and
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: other Chinese ships doing live fire exercises over Vietnam just
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: two weeks ago to show it was unhappy with a
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: change to their border, and doing yet another line fire
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: drill just the last week of Taiwan, which wants to
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: take over. I mean, it's just an extraordinary picture. What
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: are you getting from this?
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: Oh?
• 31:09
  Speaker 14: Look, I think you're right. I think that the Chinese
• 31:12
  Speaker 14: are preparing for war. The government of Jgmping has made
• 31:16
  Speaker 14: it crystal clear in explicit terms that they intend to
• 31:19
  Speaker 14: impose unification on Taiwan against the wishes of the Taiwanese people,
• 31:24
  Speaker 14: and they'll do it with military force. The only issue
• 31:27
  Speaker 14: of uncertainty is the timing of when this attack will happen.
• 31:31
  Speaker 14: There's some suggestion that twenty twenty seven is a year
• 31:34
  Speaker 14: that's constantly talked about because that's when Jesping told the
• 31:38
  Speaker 14: PLA that it must be ready to carry out the
• 31:40
  Speaker 14: attack across the Taiwan Straits in twenty twenty seven. Others
• 31:44
  Speaker 14: have a different perspective on the timing, but I think
• 31:46
  Speaker 14: what is clear is that the Chinese understand that there's
• 31:50
  Speaker 14: going to be no peaceful unification because Taiwan does not
• 31:54
  Speaker 14: want to end up like Tibet or Jinchang or Hong Kong.
• 31:58
  Speaker 14: So what you will see is a China that uses
• 32:01
  Speaker 14: military force that invades Taiwan. The only uncertainty now is
• 32:06
  Speaker 14: whether the Trump administration will defend and support Taiwan, because
• 32:09
  Speaker 14: I think what the Chinese are getting out of Trump's
• 32:12
  Speaker 14: policy towards Ukraine is that if Trump is prepared to
• 32:15
  Speaker 14: do a deal we're putin in the same way that
• 32:19
  Speaker 14: the Sedate and Land and Munich in nineteen thirty eight
• 32:21
  Speaker 14: ended up in peace in our time, then the Chinese
• 32:25
  Speaker 14: will try to do a deal with Trump over Taiwan
• 32:28
  Speaker 14: to get him to walk away from Taiwan in return
• 32:31
  Speaker 14: for some fake reward from China.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: And if that.
• 32:35
  Speaker 14: Happens, then China would grab Taiwan rare earths exactly.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I know, I know, Malcolm, and I have to say,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Andrew Hase I respect him a lot, the Oppositions Defense spokesman,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: but for him to suggest in a conference I think
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: it was today that we should show Donald Trump our
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: goodwill by offering him rare earths is absolutely shocking bargaining, Andrew.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: You're giving in before Trump's actually asked for anything. Malcolm Davis,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: thank you so much, indeed for your time after the
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: break the women or the one woman so far who
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: has been sued eight times already for saying that men
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: playing soccer against women is just not fair, even if
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: the men now identify as women. This is a strange country.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Caro Marcus, my excellent colleague on Sky News. Is a
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: great story that's for a documentary. Part of a documentary
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: that's coming up at eight point thirty here on Saving
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Women's Sports. Now, Carolin's found a woman active security Smith
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: who's had no fewer than eight legal actions against different people.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Angry that she's posted against men, transgender women playing in
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: soccer competitions, against women born women.
• 33:57
  Speaker 11: The first thing that came was to police officers turned
• 34:00
  Speaker 11: up at my house to tell me that I had
• 34:02
  Speaker 11: been someone still appear in court over violent actions dependent.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Must not do any of the following to the protective person.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I was outraged.
• 34:10
  Speaker 11: I was in disbelief.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Now one of the transgender players suing her just happens
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: to be the top scorer in her league, and Smith
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: wasn't surprised by that and posted that, yes, the player
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: was a man.
• 34:25
  Speaker 11: They've accused me of vilification for referring to as male,
• 34:29
  Speaker 11: that they believe they are women, and I won't accept that.
• 34:33
  Speaker 11: I say, no, they're male. Wants born male. You can't
• 34:35
  Speaker 11: change your sex.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: It's the panel. James McPherson from the late debate here
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: on Skar News and Evelyn Ray Farmer, former policewoman at
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Sky News regular James. This is the problem here, not
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: so much transgender politics, but free speech. Now, if we
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: were free to say what we think, then Curly Smith
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be sued. And even I dare say that fewer
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: men who are now identify as women would actually play
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: against women because more people would dare say no, isn't
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: that really the issue?
• 35:05
  Speaker 15: Yeah, it's absolutely the issue. I mean, you don't help
• 35:07
  Speaker 15: somebody by lying to them, no matter how well intentioned
• 35:11
  Speaker 15: the lie. But the fact is these lies that we
• 35:14
  Speaker 15: are now compelled to say. And it's not just about
• 35:17
  Speaker 15: what we can't say, it's about what we are compelled
• 35:19
  Speaker 15: to say. There's a story in the UK at the
• 35:21
  Speaker 15: moment about a school teacher who's just been sacked for
• 35:24
  Speaker 15: refusing to address male a female student with the male
• 35:29
  Speaker 15: pronouns that she prefers. So it's not just what we're
• 35:34
  Speaker 15: not allowed to say, it's what we're now compelled to say.
• 35:36
  Speaker 15: And what does that do to the character of the
• 35:39
  Speaker 15: general populace When we are being forced to tell lies,
• 35:43
  Speaker 15: We're being forced to say things we don't believe, or
• 35:45
  Speaker 15: to be quiet about things that are clearly obvious to us.
• 35:49
  Speaker 15: And to ignore what our eyes can clearly see. That's
• 35:52
  Speaker 15: a sure way to degrade the populace. It's not healthy
• 35:55
  Speaker 15: for the people that we're telling lies about, and it's
• 35:57
  Speaker 15: not healthy for our own souls when we're having who
• 36:00
  Speaker 15: as I said, deny what our own eyes are seeing,
• 36:03
  Speaker 15: say things we don't believe, and go along with something
• 36:06
  Speaker 15: that we know full well is just not true.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: So true, I mean even on TV. I know it's
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: a real legal type about whether we can just refer
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: to transgender players as men, even if we really would
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: think that, And that's not any way to conduct a
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: public debate. I mean, no, really, Evelyn that said, I
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: can imagine that those transgender players were offended or hurt
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: by being called men. Now the question is whether we
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: think they're hurt is more important than the truth, I guess,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: or whether we help them by banning opinions they don't
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: like on that regard, What is the best way?
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  Speaker 8: Look just first and foremost, I just want to just
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: say that Kurile Smith has been an absolute champion for
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: this cause. This isn't something she woke up yesterday, and
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: she has been relentless about this for years. And I've
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: had the privilege of speaking to her about a number
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: of times, and she genuinely is concerned for women. But
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: I am just so glad that this is actually finally
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  Speaker 8: getting the attention it deserves.
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  Speaker 10: This isn't a small thing.
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: This is actually a gateway into far bigger issues, far
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  Speaker 8: more serious issues that affect vulnerable girls and women, not
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: just in Australia but across the globe.
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: The sad part with all of.
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: This is that the punishment for these things and speak
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: about these things is in the process. I mean, it's
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: not just Curely sits, She's the tip of the iceberg.
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  Speaker 8: There are so many other people who have been dragged
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: through so many legal processes just because they dare speak
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  Speaker 8: about something that as of five minutes ago, everybody acknowledged
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  Speaker 8: was the truth. But you know, fear enough is enough
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: to curb democracy. All it takes is people to be
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: afraid to speak for democracy to be out the window
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  Speaker 8: as quick as you can say the word. And we
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  Speaker 8: pride ourselves in Australia as a nation that is built
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  Speaker 8: on the backbone of democracy. How is it that if
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  Speaker 8: we can't speak about ideas that we then can call
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  Speaker 8: ourselves a democracy.
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  Speaker 1: It's utter hypocrisy.
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: At its finest, and to be honest, things like this
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  Speaker 8: is a form of ideological terrorism.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that sounds.
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  Speaker 8: Really absurd, but if you actually look at the definition
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: of terrorism and you look at the definition of ideology,
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: the two are fitting very nicely side by side when
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  Speaker 8: we talk about these issues. Until we can speak without fear,
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  Speaker 8: and until we can you know, actually discuss these ideas,
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  Speaker 8: we've got to stop calling ourselves a democracy and we
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: need politicians. So we're going to fight for our democratic
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  Speaker 8: rights to speak freely and discuss these ideas.
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  Speaker 2: Even and I don't even go further. It's not just
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  Speaker 2: a question of fear. It's a question of money. I mean,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: a legal rits against her. She's got to defend them.
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  Speaker 2: That all costs money. Some people won't be able to
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: afford it. And this is the issue too. This is
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: why a free speech is the real problem here. So
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: much of this would go away if we just were
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: able to speak without fear. The k knock, knock, please
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: on the door. You have to stop here. You can't
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: say this, and by the way, here's the bill. The
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: legal costs, I mean, seriously, but when it comes to
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: hurtful and rude comments. I have to say, James, how
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: about this from John Baron? Here's the ABC's US politics analyst.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: The ABC is supposedly impartial, referring to Donald Trump's long
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: addressed to Congress yesterday in hour and forty minutes. The
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: last time an American president gave a speech that long,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: he died a month later. Wink wink. Now, it's clearly
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: talking about a president who did die more than one
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy years ago, after speaking for two hours
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: in cold and rain. But the responses to that post
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: suggest that Baron's readers you exactly what he was after
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: post after post, hoping that Donald Trump would die too.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what we expect from the textpayer funded ABC?
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, it is, actually, Andrew, that is what we've come
• 40:13
  Speaker 15: to expect from our tax funded ABC. Unfortunately I wish
• 40:18
  Speaker 15: it were not the case, but that is exactly what
• 40:21
  Speaker 15: you would expect to find from one of our ABC analysis.
• 40:24
  Speaker 15: It's not analysis, it's clearly incitement, and any doubt about
• 40:29
  Speaker 15: that is quickly removed. As you said, by reading the
• 40:32
  Speaker 15: replies to his tweet, people saying what we have to
• 40:35
  Speaker 15: wait till easter? Other people saying I don't normally pray,
• 40:38
  Speaker 15: but I've started other people saying, don't get our hopes up.
• 40:42
  Speaker 15: Isn't it amazing how Trump is the one who is
• 40:44
  Speaker 15: always portrayed by the progressive left as.
• 40:46
  Speaker 10: Being the bully.
• 40:47
  Speaker 15: He's the bore, he's the rude one and the engine.
• 40:51
  Speaker 15: It's those very same people who, without any hesitation at all,
• 40:56
  Speaker 15: wish for someone to die and then sit back in glee.
• 41:00
  Speaker 15: Everybody join the pile on. The hypocrisy is quite stark,
• 41:04
  Speaker 15: and it's of course very inappropriate. But we've come to
• 41:08
  Speaker 15: expect the inappropriate sadly, and we're paying for it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you remind me of the idiotic Australian Institute poll
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: the other day. Must've polled its own staff. Who's the
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: greatest threat to world peace? I think was the question
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump? Donald Trump above Vladimir Putin as jinking. I mean, seriously,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: are these people nuts? I mean, dearie me, Evelyn Ray,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: James mc ferson, thank you very most much to you both.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: After the break. More nonsense is this coming here too?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: British judges told to jail straight white Christians more than
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: criminals who are not identity politics. It destroys fairness and
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: destroys equality. This has proved again from an amazing example
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  Speaker 2: just out from Britain new sentencing guidelines for judges that
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: suggest that people who are not white, not straight, not Christian,
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  Speaker 2: they be jailed less. The Conservative Party is outraged.
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  Speaker 16: Turning to the new sentencing guidelines that's been published alongside
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  Speaker 16: this statement, which will make a custodial sentence less likely
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  Speaker 16: for and I quote ethnic minorities, cultural minorities and faith
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  Speaker 16: minority communities.
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  Speaker 1: Why is the Justice.
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  Speaker 16: Secretary enshrining this double standard, this two tier approach to sentencing.
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  Speaker 2: Join me from London is Patrick Christie Star presented with
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: GBN News, which is rocking it. Patrick, jail straight white Christians,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: but go easier on the rest. I guess you know,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: a gay, brown, Muslim or something would really get the jackpot.
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  Speaker 2: How on earth are these the new sentencing guidelines.
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  Speaker 10: Well, it's absolutely astonistic.
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  Speaker 17: Welcome to Britain, Andrew, the anti white, anti Christian, anti heterosexual,
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  Speaker 17: anti male capital.
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  Speaker 2: Of the world.
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  Speaker 10: We were told that there.
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  Speaker 17: Was no such thing as a two tier justice system
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  Speaker 17: and that was a dangerous conspiracy theory.
• 43:20
  Speaker 10: Now unfortunately it is a dangerous reality. And these are.
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  Speaker 17: Sentencing guidelines for judges to take into consideration, and if
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  Speaker 17: you happen to be, as you said, ethnic minority, trans
• 43:30
  Speaker 17: or a victim of human trafficking, then you can get
• 43:33
  Speaker 17: a lower sentence. So that also includes people who are
• 43:36
  Speaker 17: illegal migrants because they all claim to be victims of
• 43:38
  Speaker 17: human trafficking as well. There's two things going on here. Firstly,
• 43:42
  Speaker 17: I think this is the bigotry of lower expectations from
• 43:44
  Speaker 17: people who have been spoon fed and diet of.
• 43:47
  Speaker 10: Britain's institutionally racist.
• 43:49
  Speaker 17: I think they have to do something like this about it.
• 43:52
  Speaker 17: They think that people who happen to be of ethnic
• 43:53
  Speaker 17: minorities have maybe had a harder time in life or
• 43:56
  Speaker 17: have a trouble understanding the law. Absolute leads of coswallop.
• 44:00
  Speaker 17: Second thing that this could well be, and let's just
• 44:01
  Speaker 17: not rule this out Andrew is genuine, out and out
• 44:04
  Speaker 17: anti white racism in Britain.
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  Speaker 10: Either way, it has to stop.
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  Speaker 2: Well will it stop? I mean these guidelines. I find
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: it unbelievable that someone sat down and actually wrote them
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: and distributed them to judges and thought this is a
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: great idea. Are they going to go through? Well?
• 44:25
  Speaker 17: The Labor Justice Minister had obviously not read the sentencing
• 44:29
  Speaker 17: guidelines because you played a clip of her conservative counterpart.
• 44:32
  Speaker 17: They're confronting her about it, and she she obviously hadn't
• 44:35
  Speaker 17: seen this right.
• 44:36
  Speaker 10: So since then she said, well, oh not on my watch.
• 44:40
  Speaker 17: We'll review it, but there's no guarantee that they'll.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Be able to review it.
• 44:44
  Speaker 10: I'll I'll review it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 17: Yeah, but it's in force now, so I mean, if
• 44:49
  Speaker 17: you happen to be an unlucky white Christian straight man
• 44:52
  Speaker 17: today in court, you could well get a longer sentence.
• 44:56
  Speaker 17: Then it's someone for the exact same crime who well
• 45:00
  Speaker 17: doesn't speak the language. And yeah it isn't from the country.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, for goodness sake, Patrick, Honestly, you know, I get
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: frustrated with some of the things that Trump has done,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: scared even, but I tell you what, the dose of
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Trump here would do a load of good. Our Prime
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: minister wrote a long letter to Muslims to celebrate the
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: start of Ramadan last week, but posted just three words
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: to celebrate Christmas last December. This kind of thing is
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: an issue now in Britain's will. Patrick absolutely astonotic.
• 45:33
  Speaker 17: If I just go outside here and walk down the road,
• 45:36
  Speaker 17: we've got happy Ramadan lights everywhere. There was the turning
• 45:39
  Speaker 17: on of the Ramadan lights. The Prime Minister held the
• 45:43
  Speaker 17: Big Iftah as well so they could break their fasts
• 45:46
  Speaker 17: in the House of Parliament. Windsor Castle was opened up
• 45:50
  Speaker 17: so there could have been an Islamic call to prayer.
• 45:52
  Speaker 17: The royal family have wished everyone are happy Ramadan, not
• 45:55
  Speaker 17: bothered to mention anything about lends at all. I thought
• 45:59
  Speaker 17: the king was supposed to be of the faith he does,
• 46:01
  Speaker 17: to be fair, see it differently, he is defender of faith.
• 46:04
  Speaker 17: But it'll be nice if you mentioned a few others
• 46:06
  Speaker 17: other than Islam every now and again. But yes, it
• 46:09
  Speaker 17: does all seem like it's you'd be forgiven. I think
• 46:12
  Speaker 17: with these two stories combined for wondering whether or not
• 46:14
  Speaker 17: we were ever actually at Christian country.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Andrew, Well, I don't know where you mentioned the signs
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: outside your office have been in your office? Yeah, you
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: are in very close to a street that looks like,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: you know, Damascus in London. I mean, it's just unbelievable
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: how London has changed, mate.
• 46:37
  Speaker 10: Yeah, no, it really is.
• 46:39
  Speaker 17: But the main problem is that you're not really allowed
• 46:41
  Speaker 17: to talk about that. You're not allowed to say what
• 46:43
  Speaker 17: you can see with your own eyes, and you know,
• 46:45
  Speaker 17: people have that kind of run down their throat that
• 46:47
  Speaker 17: that is bad. The way that this is going to
• 46:49
  Speaker 17: backfire there ultimately is because now actually people can see
• 46:54
  Speaker 17: that things are going a bit too far and that
• 46:56
  Speaker 17: actually if they also feel as that they're going to
• 46:58
  Speaker 17: be treated like second class in the country, not just
• 47:02
  Speaker 17: their own country, but the country of their heritage as well, Yeah,
• 47:05
  Speaker 17: then I would expect that to be major issues.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: When my parents immigrant to Australia, they were told they
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: should assimilate. Now Margarets are told that the rest of
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Australia should assimilate to them. How mygation has changed. Patrick
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Christie's thank you so much for your time. One last thing,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: my book of the week. Look, it's been read to
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: absolute shreds, so I hope will put up a better
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: graphic of a clean book. Anthony Trollope, great, right and
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: read at the same time as Chelsetay, because the way
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: we live now. I read this and it's about There
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: was a great BBC series, I think it was BBC
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: with David Suchet's mel Mott the lead character here tycoon.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Tell me if you've heard this story recently, a tycoon
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: that everyone worshiped because they was so rich, and he
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: thought nothing he said could go wrong, and absolutely every
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: word he said was great. And then when it all
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: came crashing down, nobody wanted to know him and forgot
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: that they had thought he was a guru. Oh gosh,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: I've given some plot twists away. Anyway, fantastic book. Fantastic book.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: I highly recommend you read it. Go to our friends
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: at Robinson's Bookshop and they will set you right. You'll
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: see my book recommendations on the left, all the ones
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: for the past a year or so, and help yourself
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: and educate your children, because I tell you what, we
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: need children to learn from books like this, because the
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: world is off its access at the moment. That's it
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: from me, coming up now, Cherry markson good night.