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Mega Edition: Prince Andrew Gets Tagged As A "Sex Pest" (4/24/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Tonight.
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We have two articles that we're going to dive into,
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one from Newsweek and one from the Sun. The first
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article we're going to discuss is one dealing with the
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situation surrounding jur Number fifty and the request to keep
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the documents sealed. Now, we've talked about this a bunch
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and there really has not been too much movement one
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way or the other that we need to add on here.
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But as you all know, context is very important and
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I like to make sure we add all of the
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little things even to the catalog as we move forward.
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So the team for Glen Maxwell they want to keep
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this stuff under seal, and they assert that if it's
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not under seal, then there's a chance that jur Number fifty,
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Scottie David, might get some evidence that he shouldn't have
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access to and they want to do everything in their
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power to avoid that happening. Now, we know that the
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prosecution has already come out and said, look, this doesn't
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need to be file a filed under seal. This is
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you know, is not a documentation that should be sealed.
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But the defense is very adamant that they want this
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stuff sealed up. Now, me personally, unless it has to
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do with national security issues or the privacy of a
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victim of a crime, then I'm all for transparency when
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it comes to court proceedings. I think that it's important,
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and especially when we're dealing with something like this that
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has been shrouded in secrecy for so long. It's hard
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enough to get people to believe the institutions at this point,
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and when you know, you continue to conduct yourself in
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a manner that looks like you're being shady, how are
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you ever going to convince anybody. So I truly believe
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that in most cases, transparency is the proper course and
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the proper path. Now, obviously there's always situations where you
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can't have full transparency ongoing investigations, a current investigation. I'm
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talking about once you get to the point where you're
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in court, and if it doesn't affect the outcome of
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the case or national security or something like that, I
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don't see the purpose of it staying under seal. So again,
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whenever there's a movement to unseal stuff in the Epstein case,
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as long as it's not outing anybody who was a victim,
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then I'm certainly all for it. And when you have
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lawyers like Maxwell's team asking to file things under seal,
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it causes a firestorm. Right people who are following the case.
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You know, people's minds wander right away to some kind
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of you know, conspiracy theory in some cases. But this
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is just procedure. This is how it works. It's going
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to be a back and forth battle.
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Speaker 2: Royale.
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Speaker 1: You folks know the deal by now, especially if you've
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been listening to this podcast. So it's more of the same.
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And and you can expect Glenn Maxwell's team to continue
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to try and disrupt things however they can. So with
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that said, considering we have two articles to get to.
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Let's jump into this article from Newsweek and let's see
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what author Jack Royston has to say. Glenn Maxwell's lawyers
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say key Jur may destroy critical evidence. Well, you know,
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I may hit megabucks, I may win all of my
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prop bets on Sunday for the Super Bowl. I might
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hit a bunch of bets on Saturday for UFC. It
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doesn't mean that it's going to happen, and it doesn't
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mean that the jur Dur number fifty is going to
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destroy any evidence or anything like that either.
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Speaker 2: So that's a big.
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Speaker 1: Assertion, right, They're they're really going out on a limb here.
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In my opinion, you can't just say this dude's going
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to destroy anything. Glenn Maxwell's attorney has suggested a jur
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could destroy evidence unless her motion for a retrial sealed.
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The British socialite you mean, convicted human trafficker, is attempting
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to overturn her conviction on five out of six sex
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trafficking charges. In December after Scotti, David told journalists he
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discussed his past history of abuse in the jury room.
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And again, the attempt doesn't mean that you're going to
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profit from it. I can't tell you how many times
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I play this stupid slot machine called Buffalo, me and
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my girlfriend and we'll get bonus games, and you'll get
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all pumped up thinking that during this bonus game that.
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Speaker 2: Your ship has arrived.
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Speaker 1: Right, this is the day I'm about to make this
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gigantic hit here and it's about to be on. But
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nothing comes of it, right, And it's kind of the
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same deal. Jurors were asked whether they had experienced sexual assault,
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but David told The Daily Mail, I would have definitely
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marked yes, But I don't remember that question, and again
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I wasn't there.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and call anyone a liar
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one way or the other. But it doesn't look good
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for all Scottie David, folks, certainly looks like he might
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have been fudging the truth a bit. And while I'm
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not ready to, you know, dog pile, we got to
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make sure we get all of the evidence and stuff.
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It really does make things more difficult for these survivors,
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right who wants to deal with this shit again? And
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I know you folks have better things to do than,
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you know, having to follow this case on a regular basis,
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because you're hooked and you want to see justice. So
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the dude really threw a bit of a roadblock in
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the middle of the procession here. But like I said earlier,
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i'd have really, when it's all said and done and
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the dust all settles, I highly doubt she's going to
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get this mistrial, even though Scotty David looks like again
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looks like he really shited the bed here. Following his
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media interviews, Maxwell's team submitted a motion for a retrial
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and said his answers to the questionnaire corrupted the process,
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violating her right to a fair trial, and I could
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see that. I mean, look, if it was me who
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was convicted and this blubbering fool was untruthful during the
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time of Jerry's selection, I'd be pissed off as well.
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But how many people have had even worse done to
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them and had their convictions stand up.
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Speaker 2: So we'll have to see right where it goes.
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Speaker 1: But I really don't see how Maxwell is going to
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be able to leverage this into anything more than at
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the most a new trial. If it's a new trial
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that she does end up getting, then I feel like
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she'll find herself right back in the same place when
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all is said and done. However, they have asked for
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their motion and the government's reply to be kept secret.
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Bobby Sternam, Maxwell's attorney wrote in a letter to the
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court seen by Newsweek, given Jurorf fifty Scottie David a
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preview of information he does not have and should not
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have at this juncture, would permit him to craft testimony,
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destroy critical evidence, and explain away facts to protect himself
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while further jeopardizing the integrity of this case. Sounds pretty damning. Right,
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but consider the source Bobby Sternham, you know, Maxwell's lawyer.
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Of course she's going to make it a bit of
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a hit piece. The absence of this temporary safeguard will
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contribute to further obstruction of the truth seeking process, compromising
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any factual inquiry ordered by the court and jeopardizing Miss
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Maxwell's legitimate opportunity to establish why a mistrial should be granted,
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to vindicate her constitutional right.
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Speaker 2: To a fair trial. She should be heard.
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Speaker 1: Look, this is definitely warrants a discussion by the judge
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and everybody involved. I've said that from the beginning, bad
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news a bad look. You don't want any kind of taint.
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You don't want to give these people anything to sink
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their teeth into. The New York Federal Court heard Maxwell's
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victims describe how she groomed them to be abused by Epstein,
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normalizing his predatory behavior. Annie Farmer said she was sixteen
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when Maxwell massaged her breasts. Quoted by the Guardian, she
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told the court she Maxwell said to get undressed and
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to get under the sheet on the massage table. She
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pulled the sheet down and exposed my breasts and started
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rubbing on my chest and on my upper breast. So
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I highly doubt Scotti David's testimony really was the kicker
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for the jury. When we have the testimony of Annie
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Farmer and the other survivors who got up there and
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told their stories. I don't need Scotty David to let
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me know when I'm hearing the story from these girls themselves.
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I'm saying, if I'm a juror right now, he might
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be able to help give some perspective.
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Speaker 2: But I highly doubt that his.
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Speaker 1: Description of what he went through was what sealed the
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deal for those other jurors, and I think that plays
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a huge part. Farmer added, when she pulled down the sheet,
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I felt frozen because it didn't make sense to me.
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I was surprised, and I want it so bad adly
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to get off the table and have that massage be
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done with. I mean, how many of you have wanted
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things to be over with that you were doing that
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were unpleasant A test or whatever it is. Now amplify
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that to the maximum, and that must be what it's
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like to be, you know, abused by somebody like this
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and have nowhere to go and think that your all
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hope is lost. And again, I have never suffered anything
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like that, So I can't even begin to attempt to
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walk in anyone's shoes who has. If Maxwell's motion is successful,
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the December conviction will be quashed and a new trial ordered.
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A previous letter from Sternham seen by Newsweek read the
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motion urges the court to write a grievous wrong that
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deprived Miss Maxwell of a fundamental constitutional right, her right
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to be tried by a fair and impartial Jerry Jerry's
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fifty's responses to the questionnaire in questions posed to him
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during in person questioning corrupted the process and violated Miss
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Maxwell's right to a fair trial. It is a compelling argument,
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there is no doubt, But I don't think it's an
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argument that's going to work. As set forth in the motion,
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the defense believes that the existing record is clear and
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more than sufficient for the court to grant Miss Maxwell
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a new trial without the need for further factual development.
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So as Sternham saying here that she doesn't even want
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any kind of investigation, let's just grant the trial. Ah,
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you know what, let's just forget about the investigation. We'll
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just go forward with a new trial on the taxpayer's
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dying by the way, yeah, no, thank you. Better thing
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long and hard about this one, Judge Nathan. Nobody wants
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to go do a trial again. And we all sat
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here and we all listened to the testimony and.
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Speaker 2: We all heard what was what.
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Speaker 1: Furthermore, honestly, even before that, as you can tell by
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the podcast and the content, I was convinced that Maxwell
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was guilty for years now, and that's because I've just
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followed the evidence. You know again, I'm just some moron, right,
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I'm not any kind of investigator or internet researcher or
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anything like that, just a regular guy like you who
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has been captured by how heinous this story is. And
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it's just amazing to me that Maxwell and her team
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would really would think that something like this is going
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to work. I mean again, it might, right. Look, I'm
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certainly not a future reader either, right, I can't see
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the future. I don't know what's going to happen. But
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my gut tells me that Glenn Maxwell and her bid
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here is going to fizzle out and fail, and she's
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going to have to do the time that she gets
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smacked with. And we'll see that at the sentencing. But
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it's going to be significant. All right, So onto our
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second article, and this one's a bit more good folks.
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Speaker 2: There's a new.
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Speaker 1: Unearthed TV interview and it's Andrew explaining how he got
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the nickname Randy Andy. So we're gonna dive into this
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article from the Sun and the author is Tarik to
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hear and the headline Prince Andrew admits he was nickname
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Randy Andy after getting caught in girls dorm at school
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in unearthed TV interview. For those of you old enough
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out there to have seen the movie Police Academy, it
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reminds me of the scene where the dudes like sneaking
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into the real like tough police woman's room and then
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he's wearing like, you know, the top hat, the shower hat,
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dress like a woman and stuff to try and sneak
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in over there. That's the vision I get here when
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I hear about old Randy Andy skulking around and trying
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to sneak into the girl's dorm. Prince Andrew once claimed
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he was given his infamous nickname Randy Andy after he
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was called going into the girl's dormitory at his posh
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school the New York. The Duke of York claimed that
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the nickname stuck after the seemingly innocent incident on his
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second day at the posh Gordonston School in Scotland. So
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this guy is saying that he got the nickname because
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he was, you know, sneaking around on campus when the
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lights went out, mister Creeper himself getting busy when he
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was young, huh, practicing. Now look, I'm just kidding. Obviously,
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you know dudes in high school.
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Speaker 2: I get it.
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Speaker 1: But it goes to show you this guy has had
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this kind of nickname and this sort of reputation since
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he's been in these schools.
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Speaker 2: These private, posh schools.
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Speaker 1: He didn't wake up one morning and say to himself, oh, well,
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you know what, I have some proclivities. He's had them forever.
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He claimed boys were not allowed to go into the
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girl's dorm at the thirty thousand pounds per years school,
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which was also attended by his dad, Prince Philip, and
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brother Prince Charles, but the young Duke claimed he was
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caught out going to say hello to someone and he
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was subsequently dubbed Randy.
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Speaker 2: Andy.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure that was all of it. So if
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that's the story he's telling us, you can guarantee it
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was something way worse or something a lot less innocent.
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Probably got caught in bed with somebody or something like that,
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and that's why he got the name Randy Andy. Whatever
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it might be. But you can guarantee that he's giving
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you the water down version when he's giving you his version.
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Andrew revealed the origins of his nickname during an unearthed
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TV interview with Selena Scott in the nineteen eighties. Scott
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asked him about the origins of his nickname, to which
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he sheepishly replies, which nickname? After much laughter, she replies,
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Randy Andy. Can you imagine this guy's sitting around having
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this interview and this is the excuse he comes up with. Oh,
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because you know, I got caught sneaking around that night,
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so they called me Randy. And now I think you
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were doing a little bit more, buddy, Okay, if you
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they'd be calling you wandering Andy if that was the case,
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or strolling Andy or Andy on the road, whatever it is.
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But I highly doubt it's Randy Andy. What does that
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have to do with you sneaking around and skulking about
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like you're Richard Ramirez. I'll tell you exactly where it
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originated from. It was my second day at public school.
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He said, it was unfortunate enough during my early years
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at Gordonston not to realize the rules of the house,
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which is, you weren't allowed in the girl's house. Oh
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you didn't really, he didn't realize those rules either, He
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had no idea, a long history of not knowing the
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rules right, or more likely knowing the rules. And then
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when getting caught pleading ignorance, Oh well, how am I
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supposed to know? Nobody told me that. Oh I don't know.
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I'm not supposed to go in the girl's dorm. What
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are you crazy? When did that rule pop up? And
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I was unfortunately caught going through the door to the
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girl's house saying a low to somebody, and it stuck.
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Not many people use it nowadays, and I don't think
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that it actually fits today anyway. Oh yeah, fits today
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better than ever. I mean, talk about hindsight, huh, because
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you were sneaking into the girl's dorm.
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Speaker 2: Okay, sure, right.
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Speaker 1: As a young man, the Duke of York was considered
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one of the world's most eligible bachelors and was linked
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to a string of women. But he was just sneaking
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in through the door to go say a lo to somebody.
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He was going to help her with her homework. Maybe
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they were going to watch, uh, you know, the King's
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speech together. He became known as the playboy Prince and
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of course Randy Andy. As the papers feasted on the
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Royal Navy helicopter pilot's relationships, those included actress cou Stark,
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who it was revealed, had appeared topless in an art
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house film in the late nineteen seventies. Oh the scandal.
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She appeared topless, folks, that's it, calling all of the guards.
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She can never come to the palace again, and she
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was topless.
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Speaker 2: And again.
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Speaker 1: In later years, after his divorce from Sarah Ferguson, the
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Prince was regularly pictured at parties, clearly enjoying the company
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of young women, no.
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Speaker 2: Doubt about that.
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Speaker 1: Topless girls in Thailand, the whole thing. And if this
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guy didn't try and put out this wholesome image of
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himself and would just own up to who he is,
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then it would take away a lot of the ammunition
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people use against them. But he's one of these dudes
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that just won't admit what he is, even though we
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all see it. It's like having that drunken fool of
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a relative who just won't see that they're a drunken fool.
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He was a regular at nightclubs, including Tramp, where rape
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accuser Virginia Roberts says she danced with them. But despite that,
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in his infamous twenty nineteen interview on BBC's Newsnight, the
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Andrew claimed he rarely partied and wasn't a fan of
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public displays of affection. Yet we've seen him all over
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girls all over the place. Every time pictures are released
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of him and some females, there's public displays of affection.
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So I don't even know what he's talking about. Again,
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just like with Maxwell lies and in fact there's more
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of a history of lying here because Andrew's been on
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the record more than Maxwell. He also denied ever meeting
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miss Roberts, despite there being a picture of his arm
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around her. Andrew has issued a defiant response to his
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sex abuse claims, including denying that he was a close
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friend with Glenn Maxwell and claiming he wasn't a frequent
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visitor of Jeffrey Epstein. And I don't frequently update the podcast,
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you know. We don't frequently have context episodes, we don't
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frequently have morning.
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Speaker 2: Updates absolutely absurd.
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Speaker 1: Pictures of the famously teetotal prints out partying with women have, however,
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resurfaced as he faces a jerry trial in a bid
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to clear his name. The Duke of York was snapped
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dancing with glamorous blonde Chris van Aspen while at a
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poolside party thrown by a Libyan businessman and sanchrope. Oh yeah, dude,
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perfect On a wild night in the millionaire's playground of
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southern France in July two thousand and seven, the forty
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seven year old Prince cavorted with twenty seven year old
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Chris after the US socialite reportedly caught his eye. So
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look again, what it's doing is establishing who this man
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is and under normal circumstances. I wouldn't care if dude
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who was hanging out with girls by the dozen, if
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they're all consenting women and they want to hang out
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with him, Hey, I don't care what anybody does.
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Speaker 2: Not my business.
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Speaker 1: I have my own problems, my own life to live.
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But when you start dealing with it not being consensual
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and a seventeen year old girl being trafficked to the
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Prince of England, it's a bit more serious. Snow. Photographs
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from the night show with teetotal Andrew with his hands
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around Chris at the villa party. Jeffrey said at the time,
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Andrew came over to me and asked, what's her name?
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She is beautiful. I love the way she carries herself.
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She is very classy. And Meanwhile, other snaps show the
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prince enjoying a wild night out with Canadian model and
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singer Pascal Borba, while teenage daughter Beatrice was just meters
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away at the same party in Santrope. Well, that's a
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bit dishonest. Beatrice was of age, and I get it right,
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you don't want to be doing that around your daughter.
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Speaker 2: Ever.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a parent, but I would think
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that you wouldn't want to do that around your daughter,
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you know, shacking up with some lady, kissing on her,
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being all romantic stuff like that. Probably not the right
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place or time. But again, it's not like she they
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say teen, like she was fourteen.
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Speaker 2: She was an adult.
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Speaker 1: Heer. So. One picture from the night shows Pascal with
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her arms around Andrew's neck while he appeared to place
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a hand on her rear. Another image shows a slightly
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sweaty looking Andrew standing awkwardly next to the model with
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his hand side by side. And again the sweating right
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very important. There's always little gold nuggets here, and inside
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of these articles you'll always find them. A third image
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shows the two almost nose to nose as they get
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close at a swanky gathering. Andrew faces a two day
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grilling starting on March tenth at a neutral location where
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Virginia Roberts lawyers fly in from the US. He will
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be questioned by Ace Lawyers, David Boys and Sigared McAuley.
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And we all know that we've discussed it. David Boyse
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is very well equipped to wring some answers out of
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Andrew here, and I would expect that this is going
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to be a very uncomfortable deposition for Andrew, and I
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would guess that he might even start to sweat during it.
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And after that they interview a woman who alleges Shew
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the Prince with Miss Roberts at London's Tramp nightclub in
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two thousand and one. Boys eighty has a fearsome reputation
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as the greatest deposition taker in modern US justice. Boys
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has said he looks forward to the look forward to
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looking the Duke in the eye and has previously been
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dubbed the Great Inquisitor. That's not very much reassuring for
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the Prince, huh. For his part, Andrew is reportedly being
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carefully prepared by his UK based legal team over fears
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of a repeat of his car crash twenty nineteen interview
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with BBC News Nights Emily Maitliss. Yeah, he better practice
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with Brettler. I'm telling you right now, you better get
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your money's worth with Bretler, because if you're going to
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use anyone to prep you, it should be that dude.
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All Right, there we are, folks. That's the update for
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this evening. That's where we are completely caught up on
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the news of the day. Quick blurb on Galne Maxwell
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closed it out there with Prince Andrew, and on we
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go to whatever tomorrow brings.
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Speaker 2: If you'd like to.
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Speaker 1: Contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kopuci at
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ProtonMail dot com. That's Bo Bby c ap u Cci
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at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me on
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Twitter at Bobby Underscore c ap u Cci. The links
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that we discussed can be found in the description blcome
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back to the Epstein Chronicles. Recently We've heard from several
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people about the way Prince Andrew conducts himself when interacting
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with people that are considered the hired help or people
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that are working for him. And let's say the Yelp
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reviews were not great. We heard that he uh would
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make one of the people that take care of the house,
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one of the household, uh, you know, butlers or whatever,
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go upstairs and close the curtains even though he was
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sitting a couple of feet away. We know about the
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weird a hide and seek game. We know how he
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would berate the hired help if his Teddy Bear collection
24:07
wasn't put the way he likes it. But what we're
24:10
going to hear about tonight this one is this is
24:13
the worst, honestly, And if this lady's account of her
24:19
interactions with Andrew are true, then it just goes to
24:22
show you, once again the kind of person we're dealing
24:25
with here.
24:27
Speaker 2: If he's this brazen.
24:28
Speaker 1: With hired help, with people that are not part of
24:32
a human trafficking ring, how brazen do you think he
24:35
would have been with girls that are provided by Epstein?
24:40
And once again we're going to hear in this article
24:43
about the massages all of these dudes in their massages,
24:48
and we all know, after you dig a little bit deeper,
24:52
what the massage really was in Epstein's circle code word
24:56
for sex, and Prince Andrew Dershowitz all of these guys that, oh,
25:03
it was just a massage. Yeah, that's fine, and well
25:05
if you're at an actual, you know, massage joint. And
25:08
I don't mean one that Robert Kraft would be visiting.
25:12
I'm talking about an actual, legitimate spot here in Las Vegas.
25:14
There's a bunch of them all over the strip, in
25:17
these casinos where you're paying a boatload a dough to
25:20
go and get worked on. And I'm sure that there's
25:23
tons of those kinds of places in New York as well,
25:26
wherever you are, to be honest with you, and when
25:29
you have the kind of money that these people have,
25:31
they could have the access to the best massage therapists
25:34
in the world.
25:34
Speaker 2: Right.
25:35
Speaker 1: What are they doing bringing in girls with no experience?
25:38
Speaker 2: Oh? I get it.
25:39
Speaker 1: They're just such charitable people. They want to teach them
25:42
the right way to perform a massage.
25:43
Speaker 2: Right.
25:46
Speaker 1: So, like I said, this article is from the Sun
25:49
and the headline is Royal Creep. Prince Andrew was my
25:53
creepiest massage client and kept asking X rated questions about
25:57
my sex life, says royal massage theist. This article was
26:02
authored by Rachel Dale and a bit of unsolicited advice.
26:07
If you're getting a massage, you should probably save the
26:11
X rated questions. Okay, it's probably uncomfortable enough for these
26:15
massage therapists to be rubbing their hands all over these
26:18
gross mf's bodies. Add in the comments and the commentary
26:23
from the peanut gallery and it makes it much harder
26:26
to perform their job. Nobody should be subjected to that nonsense.
26:30
A massage therapist who was told to treat Prince Andrew
26:34
in his bedroom claims he was her creepiest client and
26:37
a constant sex pest. This is the Prince of England,
26:41
the guy that is being accused by Virginia of having
26:46
sex with her when she was under age and being
26:48
trafficked a bunch of receipts. We've seen, we've heard corroborating
26:54
statements from people, we have the picture. But this guy
26:58
who is being called a sex pest, This massage therapist
27:01
who I'm sure has no ax to grind and he
27:05
wants us to believe that there's no validity to what
27:08
Virginia has to say and we should just take his
27:10
word for it, zero chance. And that's the biggest thing
27:18
for me, folks. He's provided nothing in the way of evidence,
27:23
and all we do is keep hearing stories from people
27:26
who are coming out of the woodwork now basically every
27:29
other day that have another story about their interactions with
27:33
Andrew and how it made them uncomfortable or how he
27:36
demeaned them or now, in this case, had all kinds
27:39
of sexual type comments towards this lady who's just trying
27:44
to make a living. Emma Groombaum forty says he quizzed
27:50
her on her love life and tried to hug her
27:51
after sessions at Royal Lodge, Windsor. And again, why would
27:55
you do that?
27:56
Speaker 2: Do you?
27:56
Speaker 1: I mean, do you go and hug the gas station
27:59
attendant after he rings up your Snickers bar? So why
28:03
are you hugging your massage therapist unless, of course you
28:05
guys are friends and you have an established relationship. Stop
28:08
making people uncomfortable. And people like Prince Andrew, they're just
28:13
so tone deaf and they can't read the situation. Ever,
28:16
they think everybody wants to have his hands on them, right,
28:19
nobody's ever told them no in his whole life, so
28:22
he just assumes, and the reality is nobody wants this
28:26
guy touching them. She says she swore at the Duke
28:30
and stared at him after a remark about her bottom,
28:33
adding it was just so tense and weird. And she
28:37
says one crew to remark led to her, telling him
28:40
it's none of your fucking business. So obviously he's said
28:45
a few things to her that have crossed a line.
28:47
To say that to the Prince of England. To say
28:50
that to anybody, you have to be pretty fired up,
28:52
you would think, right. And again, we're talking about Prince
28:56
Andrew here, so I don't doubt for a minute, but
29:00
this lady is talking about what she's saying. Emma fifty
29:07
speaks out today after Andrew's legal team said his sex
29:10
case accuser Virginia Roberts may suffer from false memories. Oh yeah,
29:15
I'm sure that's exactly what it is, of false memories.
29:18
So and ring up Elizabeth Loftus speaking of there's an
29:21
article out with her talking about this Prince Andrew situation.
29:25
We're gonna get to that article eventually, and added to
29:27
the catalog the next couple of days, Emma told the son,
29:31
I don't want to sit by and not speak out
29:33
about the way he was towards me, as he calls
29:36
Virginia delusional. See this is what I'm talking about. Prince
29:39
Andrew's playing with fire. And there's a lot more people
29:43
out there that Andrew is shitting on his way up right,
29:45
well not even on his way up from his perch
29:47
that he was born into a top of the tree.
29:50
And you know what they say, right, you shouldn't shit
29:52
on people on your way up the ladder because you
29:54
never know on the way down. And you're definitely seeing
29:57
it here. All of these people that he wronged and
30:00
meaned and treated like less, then they're all going to
30:03
have something to say now. And that builds a huge
30:06
profile of Andrew and a look behind the scenes that
30:09
people weren't privy to before. And remember he was being
30:13
protected all the way up until at least twenty fifteen
30:16
with Amy Robach and the interview being quashed by ABC.
30:23
She also said that Andrew Andrew was a constant sex
30:26
pest and tried to hug her after sessions, always insisted
30:30
on being naked apart from one of his own towels.
30:32
Sounds like his good budd Jeffrey Epstein, doesn't it same
30:35
way Jeffrey Epstein was conducting himself. Now, I'm not saying
30:39
he was physically raping anybody. We haven't heard that yet
30:42
besides from Virginia. But let's be very clear here. This
30:46
is the same kind of mo the same kind of nonsense.
30:49
Fellow travelers, as I always say, demanded full body massages
30:54
were always carried out in his bedroom despite her objections.
30:58
How within minutes of their first session, he asked her
31:00
a highly personal question about her sex life. Again, not
31:05
the place nor the time. You're the Prince of England,
31:09
you're getting a massage. Why are you asking this woman
31:11
about her sex life? Making her uncomfortable? And you mean
31:15
to tell me he was only in Thailand to see
31:17
the sites right when him and Epstein were hanging out topless.
31:19
Speaker 2: On the boat.
31:20
Speaker 1: He's just there to see the sights. But he's asking
31:22
this massage therapist who is in the Royal on the
31:26
royal grounds, personal questions about her sex life and all
31:30
sorts of other nonsense. You see why I don't believe
31:34
the bs that's being pitched by him and his surrogates.
31:37
I don't believe it because it is not believable. Emma
31:43
was a thirty four year old sports massage therapist at
31:46
the Wentworth Club in Surrey when she started treating Andrew's
31:49
ex wife Sarah Ferguson in early two thousand and five.
31:53
Fergie recommended her services, and andrew staff got in touch.
31:57
I'm sure Emma rude the day, huh and Fergie again,
32:01
another person who is sitting around acting like Andrew's this
32:05
great guy. I'm sure that he never goes off the
32:07
handle when it's just you guys. I'm sure he treats
32:09
the staff fantastically when it's just YouTube behind closed doors
32:13
and everybody else has the wrong idea. Fergi recommended her services,
32:20
and Andrew's staff got in touch. Emma first met him
32:23
that summer, a few months after the first sex claims
32:26
against the Duke's pal, Jeffrey Epstein emerged in the US.
32:30
Now again, we know that Jeffrey Epstein loved his massages too,
32:35
and it all goes hand in hand, right, you know?
32:37
We talk about the big puzzle and putting the pieces together,
32:40
starting at the corners and working your way towards the middle,
32:43
and we're starting to see a real clear picture of
32:47
what's going on here and the kind of person that
32:50
Andrew is was and always will be. And we don't
32:54
need to have any kind of like excavation here either. Right,
32:57
it's a pretty easy picture to see. Emma, a freelancer
33:04
who was not knowingly vetted by palace staff, visited Andrew
33:08
six times that year. She said, I had a lot
33:10
of high profile clients and I often visited their homes,
33:14
but Andrew was very different. He was a constant sex
33:17
pest right from the start. I just don't get it, Honestly,
33:21
I really don't get it. You're the Prince of England.
33:23
You literally could have just about any woman you want,
33:26
if you're not being an animal, just to have at
33:29
least a little bit of drip, a little bit of swag,
33:32
a little bit of game, and you could have just
33:35
about any woman you want. Man, But here you are
33:38
harassing this lady who's trying to give your fat ass
33:41
of massage, your gross ass and massage. Oh then again,
33:44
maybe not, Maybe Emma is misremembering too. Maybe this was
33:48
a stunt double she was giving the massage to. Did
33:50
anybody call a old lady Victoria and get a scoop
33:54
from her. Emma says that she first got a call
33:59
from the Duke's personal secretary inviting her to the Royal
34:02
Lodge and Windsor Great Park. She added that was unusual
34:06
to ask me to come on a Sunday afternoon, but
34:09
I said yes, and one along at about six pm
34:11
as arranged. And I'm not gonna talk about that. Even
34:15
I don't know what is the normal what's the normal
34:17
schedule to get a massage? I guess whenever your back hurts, right,
34:20
So I don't know anything about that. I knew the
34:22
park because my horse was kept there. I took my
34:25
own table, which I always use because it is set
34:28
at the right height for me to do the massage properly.
34:31
But when I got there, I got told no, he
34:34
will only use his own table. So right off the bat, no,
34:38
he'll only use his own table. Now again, I could
34:40
understand that, right if you're some rich guy some prints,
34:43
I guess you don't want to, you know, lay on
34:45
some other table where other people have been laying with
34:48
their nether regions splayed across it. I guess I can
34:51
get that, can't really give him too much shit for that,
34:53
as much as I love piling on this clown. I
34:57
was led through the house by a member of staff.
35:00
I followed him up a couple of flights of stairs
35:02
and ended up in the bedroom a very impressive master suite.
35:06
I said, oh, I'm not really comfortable doing this in
35:08
his bedroom. I looked at the massage table and I said,
35:12
and that is much too high. It was up to
35:15
my hips, so I'd be kind of massaging at boob level,
35:18
which is something I obviously didn't want. So I said,
35:22
can we move it out of the bedroom. I'm not comfortable.
35:25
So again, right away she shows up, and she has
35:28
one thing in mind, thinking, you know, all right, well,
35:30
it's gonna be a regular old massage. I'll show up,
35:32
got my table, I'll give this dude a massage, and
35:35
I'll be on my way. But it's not like that,
35:37
not in a common room or a sports medicine room
35:41
or the family room his bedroom. But I was told
35:47
it wasn't an option. This is the way the duke
35:50
liked it. He always had massages in his bedroom, and
35:53
he liked to be close to his bed to roll
35:55
into bed after. I mean, God forbid you gotta walk
35:59
five hundred feet or up flight of stairs. Huh, your
36:02
Royal highness, Uncle Touchy the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family.
36:09
I was told not to make a fuss. I didn't
36:11
know what else to say, and the staff member left.
36:14
Emma says she then attempted to lower the table to
36:16
a level for a deep tissue massage. So the staff
36:20
member is like, look, I'm not good. I'm not dealing
36:22
with this shit. You can deal with old Jeoffrey the
36:26
senior over here and deal with his nonsense. I'm out,
36:29
don't touch the table. This is what he wants, this
36:31
is what he likes.
36:34
Speaker 2: She added.
36:35
Speaker 1: I dropped to the floor and started to adjust the bed.
36:37
I heard a voice, Hey nice ass. All right, I'm
36:41
not even gonna repeat this.
36:43
Speaker 2: Do he says? After that? Hey, nice ass?
36:47
Speaker 1: And then do you take it up the You know what?
36:51
That's a delicate one there.
36:53
Speaker 2: Huh. I'm not even.
36:54
Speaker 1: Gonna delve into that, but I mean, are you kidding me?
36:56
Speaker 2: Right now?
36:57
Speaker 1: You say that to somebody, someone that you hire to
36:59
give you a massage, do you take it up the
37:03
and hey nice ass? I mean, wow, what a depraved
37:08
six son of a bitch. And again, look, if you're
37:11
gonna be this brazen with your massage therapist, how are
37:15
you conducting yourself in the privacy of the home of
37:18
one of the most prolific sex predators, child abusers, and
37:24
human traffickers in modern history.
37:27
Speaker 2: Pretty sure it's a free for all.
37:30
Speaker 1: I stood up quickly and turned around. I was up
37:32
against the massage table, and he was up against me,
37:36
eyeball the eyeball almost touching. He was really close, and
37:39
I went, none of your fucking business. And he just
37:42
looked at me in sort of a dead stare and said,
37:44
you can't talk to me like that. I said, well,
37:47
you can't speak to me like that. Good for her,
37:50
Good for her, just because this dude's the Prince of England,
37:52
don't mean shit.
37:54
Speaker 2: Tell you what.
37:55
Speaker 1: So if this was my lady, my girl, and she
37:58
was out giving this dude a massage, oh you better
38:00
believe he's catching a fade. Talk to somebody like this,
38:04
somebody's mom, somebody's sister, somebody's aunt. Dude acts like he
38:07
doesn't have daughters or women he cares about. This is
38:10
the way you conduct yourself. This is what you think
38:12
of women. There was then a momentary silence where I
38:18
was sort of staring at him and I tried to
38:19
step sideways and get away from being up against the table.
38:22
It was just so tense.
38:24
Speaker 2: It was really weird.
38:25
Speaker 1: But I have had stupid comments over the years. And
38:27
I just said, look, are you going to behave get
38:30
your robe off and lie down and let me do
38:31
my work, or I'm leaving. And he said, no, I
38:34
think we're going to get on just fine. So he's
38:37
used to this kind of stuff, right, talking to people
38:40
in this manner. It wasn't out of character. He wasn't
38:42
having a bad day, you know, he didn't get it
38:45
slipped an extra little blue pill. He wasn't on Molly.
38:49
This is just who the dude is, showing you the
38:51
character behind closed doors, of the scoundrel scumbag that.
38:55
Speaker 2: He really is.
38:59
Speaker 1: And he slipped off his robe and got on the table.
39:02
I always looked away as he got on the table
39:05
and made sure there was a towel covering his modesty,
39:07
but he was always naked under the towel. We started
39:10
the massage, but all the way through he was talking
39:13
about anal sex and making anal sex jokes. He asked
39:16
when I when I had last had sex. It went
39:19
on and on again. Who do you think you are, bro?
39:23
This is not the time nor the place. What gives
39:26
you the right to talk to somebody like this and
39:29
some again, somebody that you're obviously exerting power over. Not
39:34
only are you the prince and she's a subject under
39:36
the crown, but you're hiring her to give you this massage.
39:40
This is her livelihood, and you're out here talking about
39:45
what you're talking about. I kept telling him to shut up,
39:50
but quickly quickly realized he was okay with being talked
39:53
at like he was a naughty schoolboy kind of thing.
39:56
So I just carried it on in that vein telling
39:58
him to shut up. And that was the pattern I
40:00
saw him. Six times. He'd say he would get someone
40:03
to pay me because he doesn't deal with cash. Andrew's
40:06
office sent checks to Emma's home address, including a compliment
40:09
slip from the Duke. Now, look, you mean to tell
40:12
me you ain't got no petty cash on hand? Send
40:15
me a check. Stop it. I come over and I
40:17
do some work for you, like a massage or something.
40:20
You better have a couple of bucks waiting for me.
40:23
Check my ass. He paid eighty pounds for a seventy
40:28
minute session and requested Emma services almost every Sunday for
40:32
a while. She added, every time I saw him, he
40:34
would try to overstep the line. He tried to hug
40:37
me without fail. I would have to put my hands
40:39
on his chest and push him off and say, look,
40:41
I don't do hugs. I mean, I thought he didn't
40:44
do public displays of affection, But he's doing public displays
40:50
of affection here with his massage therapist. Again, none of
40:53
his story adds up when you start hearing from all
40:56
of these people who know him, knew him, were working
40:59
for him, when you get the whole entire picture. I
41:02
don't know how his surrogates can go out there, get online,
41:05
write articles, whatever it may be, and act like anyone's
41:08
going to take them seriously, too busy to prioritize your help.
41:13
He asked me to watch a movie a couple of times.
41:15
Once he said he wanted to make me a cup
41:17
of tea and led me off somewhere. As I was leaving,
41:19
we ended up in the kitchen and he said he
41:21
didn't know where the kettle was. I just wanted to leave,
41:24
I said firmly. Look where's the way out? And I left?
41:28
Now again, Remember his wife, Fergae is the one who
41:31
hooked this all up, and he's out here talking to
41:34
her like this. No respect for his wife, ex wife, friend,
41:37
whatever it might be, no respect for anybody. After visiting
41:43
the Duke almost weekly for around two months, Emma stopped
41:46
getting calls from his staff to arrange appointments. She said,
41:49
I think it's because he wanted more and he was
41:52
clearly not going to get anywhere. His advances weren't working,
41:56
and I think his patience ran out. He always tried
41:59
to turn the conversation into sex or jokes about sex.
42:02
I tell him it wasn't appropriate or it just wasn't funny.
42:06
Now you know what's funny about this? No pun intended,
42:09
But you have Prince Andrew's team out there talking about, oh,
42:12
we want to speak to any girls or know anything
42:13
about Virginia Roberts. Well, what about the flip side of that?
42:17
How many massage therapists out there have had the same
42:20
experiences with Prince Andrew. I'm sure there's some out there,
42:25
and I'm sure that there are plenty of people that
42:27
would be willing to let you tell their to tell
42:29
your story. You all know what my email address is,
42:33
more than willing to give the microphone over for a
42:35
little while. He was a pest, but it was always
42:42
in a matron and schoolboy way. He seemed to want
42:45
me to tell him to shut up.
42:46
Speaker 2: He was just a creep.
42:48
Speaker 1: I always used to tell my girlfriends what a total
42:50
creep he was. And again, look, we're not saying he
42:53
assaulted this lady or anything like that, because that's.
42:55
Speaker 2: Not the case.
42:56
Speaker 1: But when you look at the whole picture, and you
42:59
look at all of the evident and it's built together,
43:01
and you know, built on the foundation of him being
43:05
a scumbag, it's a very hard image for him to
43:08
shake when all of these stories keep coming out and
43:11
the only people you have coming to your defense are
43:14
shoddy characters Conrad black dude from the intelligence agency, and
43:22
a socialite from yesteryear. Then I just stopped getting phone calls.
43:30
I was playing hard to get too hard. It didn't
43:32
bother me. I had a lot of great clients, but
43:35
I didn't see Sarah again after I started seeing the duke,
43:37
which was odd. I didn't complain to anyone at the
43:40
time because I thought everyone would just know what he
43:42
was like I was a thirty four year old woman
43:45
and I can handle myself, and I felt I could
43:47
handle him, and.
43:48
Speaker 2: You know the look.
43:49
Speaker 1: Let me be very clear, there are a lot of
43:51
women out there that dudes like this have no chance against.
43:55
You get stupid with a woman who is strong and
44:00
her beliefs and you know isn't from the broken home
44:02
or anything like that. Sometimes you pick the wrong target
44:05
and these women will tell you where to stuff it.
44:09
And thankfully, for her sake, she was one of those
44:11
type of women and not somebody that was, you know,
44:14
cowed by his power. But now I see the way
44:19
he's treated younger women. It is scary to think how
44:22
I might have felt if I was ten years younger
44:24
and less experienced. Exactly right. When you have less life
44:27
experience or you're from a broken home, you're not as confident.
44:30
You're confident in yourself, yet it's a lot harder for
44:33
you not to break down in advances like that or
44:36
to be intimidated. Emma's experience echoes that of massus Monique
44:43
Gia Neloni, who told two years ago how in two thousand,
44:47
a valet showed her Andrew's bedroom at Buckingham Palace, before
44:51
he came out of a bathroom naked. Monique's unvetted visit
44:54
sparked a security breach after it was revealed she was
44:58
introduced to him by Epstein's lover and Andrew's pal, Glaine Maxwell.
45:02
So what do you think she was over there for?
45:04
Just for the regular old massage, right, because that's what
45:06
Jeffrey Epstein provided, just regular old massages. This dude's basically
45:12
using the palace and the palace grounds as a brothel
45:18
for himself. Last month, The Sun reported on claims by
45:23
Andrew's x maid, Charlotte Briggs that he made her run
45:26
up four flights of stairs to close curtains. He was
45:28
sitting next to. Emma Now, a successful surveyor who lives
45:33
in Windsor, said she was speaking out because there is
45:36
more and more evidence and noise about how he has behaved.
45:39
She added, I just really want to add my voice
45:41
and my experience to help if it does help at all,
45:44
to add context to the sort of character he is
45:47
and how he treated me. And if that helps Virginia,
45:50
then for fantastic. And again that's big for me, folks.
45:53
How long have we been talking about that here? Building
45:56
that profile? I don't make the news. I've told you
45:59
that a bunch of times. My job is to put
46:02
it all together for you to make a decision on
46:04
the way you see it. And when you look at
46:07
everything here and you hear all of these stories, you
46:11
hear from Emma what she's saying, You hear about the
46:15
quote unquote massage therapist that's provided by Maxwell, and you
46:19
know exactly what he was up to. You know exactly
46:21
what he was up to. Ms Roberts claims that she
46:25
was trafficked by Epstein to have sex with Andrew when
46:27
she was seventeen. He denies all of her claims and
46:31
faces civil trial in New York later this year. A
46:34
spokesman for Andrew did not want a comment on Emma's story.
46:39
A twenty year history of Rubbins. Just a quick little
46:42
blurb on some of the other instances of Andrew being
46:45
a scuzzbag. Nineteen ninety nine, Heidi Windell, then in her
46:49
early sixties, gave Andrew several non sexual massages on Jeffrey
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Epstein's Little Saint James in the US Virgin Islands. She
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said Andrew told her he had been bitten by a
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mosquito on his Royal arse. The island was to become
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known as Epstein's pedophile Island, and again not saying he
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was abusing anyone on that island in that instance, but
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it builds a profile that shows you that he was there.
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Two thousand, he invited unvetted massus Monique gian Loney to
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his palace bedroom for a treatment, then emerged naked from
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the bathroom, coming out like the creep from under the sheets.
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Two thousand and five, Andrew was a sex pest and
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made wildly inappropriate sexual remarks to a sports therapist. Emma
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has revealed in Today's Son. Twenty ten, reported to have
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had his feet massaged by a woman while watching the
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King's speech at Jeffrey Epstein's New York mansion. I would
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love to speak to whoever that was as well. Twenty nineteen,
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a stylist claiming to be an ex girlfriend revealed to
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US media how Andrew was particularly fond of being massaged
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by two women at once. Yeah, because one's not enough.
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One professional's not enough. If he has so much body,
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he needs two sets of hands to give him a massage.
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Give me a fucking break. Already enough with this clown.
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Enough already well folks. Again, there you have it, another episode,
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another update coming gone, and the profile continues to be
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built for Prince Andrew and the pictures looking grim his
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five or six surrogates that are out there, They're gonna
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be hard pressed. I'm guessing they might come out and
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say that this was all photoshopped, or this is a
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memory issue, or maybe just another body double. All right,
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that's gonna do it for tonight. I'll be back tomorrow morning, obviously,
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with another morning update in between now and then. There
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is definitely some context episodes coming your way. If you'd
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Speaker 2: All right, folks.
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Speaker 1: Oh