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‘Tech Tuesday’ with Mike Dobuski | Japan & KFC · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty KFI AM six forty Handle here.
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  Speaker 2: It is a Tuesday morning, December twenty three, and be
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  Speaker 2: prepared for lots of rain, record breaking depusty on'll memute
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  Speaker 2: that devastating rain here in southern California. Boy, what a
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  Speaker 2: Christmas that's going to be. Okay, let's move over into
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  Speaker 2: a fun or funner topic. We've been pretty serious all
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  Speaker 2: morning long. Mike Dubuski is ABC Tech REPORTERI is with
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  Speaker 2: us and love talking to Mike.
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  Speaker 1: Mike. Good morning to you. Morning Bill. How are you? I
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  Speaker 1: am good? And you're out of New York right?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So while I was going to pour down here,
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  Speaker 2: what's going to happen up there?
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  Speaker 1: Are you looking for some horrible weather too?
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  Speaker 3: Well? It was snowing this morning, actually, which was pretty
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  Speaker 3: significant because like the city itself has not seen major
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  Speaker 3: snowfall in a couple of years, and it's not major snowfall,
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  Speaker 3: but it like was given us a little inkling. It
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  Speaker 3: was like, okay, maye, maybe it's going to be, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if not a white Christmas, a whiter Christmas than it
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  Speaker 3: has been in years past.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, the best and worst gadgets of twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just get through.
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  Speaker 2: I always uh defer to the worst, of course, because
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather start with the worst.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, absolutely the worst gadgets right as.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, in the holiday spirit, let's start with
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  Speaker 3: the worst gadgets of twenty twenty five. So I've got
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  Speaker 3: two on the list for you, two kind of big
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  Speaker 3: news stories of the year. Let's start with Elon Musk's
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  Speaker 3: Grock chat bot. This is basically Elon Musk's version of
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  Speaker 3: chant GPT. It comes from his artificial intelligence company, and
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  Speaker 3: in the last year they've begun integrating Groc, this chatbot
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  Speaker 3: into what used to be called Twitter, which is now
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  Speaker 3: called x So you're seeing this chatbot show up on
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  Speaker 3: this social media platform in a pretty big way. Well,
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  Speaker 3: in the Midsummer we saw Elon Musk give this directive
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  Speaker 3: for Grock to not shy away for politically incorrect statements.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: This whole cell of Groc is that it's the fun one.
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  Speaker 3: It's the one that's gonna tell you stuff that you know,
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  Speaker 3: chat GPT would be too you know, kind of uptight
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  Speaker 3: to tell you. Well, unfortunately this had a sort of
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  Speaker 3: unexpected impact when groc began posting all forms of hateful
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  Speaker 3: and anti Semitic content on x even at one point
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  Speaker 3: calling itself mecha Hitler. And if I if something calls
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  Speaker 3: itself mecha Hitler, I'm gonna put it on the loser's
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  Speaker 3: side of the list. I think that's fair to say.
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  Speaker 1: So that's one, but you're gonna use But you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: use it, well, not necessarily. I'm not using grock. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta pay to use grocs. All right, Let's go another one,
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  Speaker 1: Another horrible one.
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  Speaker 3: Another horrible one would be the Friend AI pendant. This
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  Speaker 3: is another AI device, but it's a it's an actual gadget.
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  Speaker 3: This is one hundred and twenty nine dollars necklace that
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  Speaker 3: you can buy, and it has a little pendant on
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  Speaker 3: it that's like the size and shape of a Mento
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  Speaker 3: kind of and it has a little microphone in it
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  Speaker 3: that is designed to listen into your conversations and whatever
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  Speaker 3: it is you might encounter in your day to day life.
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  Speaker 3: The idea here, according to the company Friend, is that
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  Speaker 3: this behaves like a friend. It's going to send you,
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  Speaker 3: like quippi one liners to comment on what it hears
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  Speaker 3: throughout the day and just basically be a small companion.
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  Speaker 3: Well maybe no surprise there. Reviewers were very quick to
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  Speaker 3: bash this device. They said that the AI misheard or
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  Speaker 3: misinterpreted things, that it was just kind of annoying or
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  Speaker 3: sycophantic at times, and that generally this kind of marks
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  Speaker 3: an invasion of people's privacy because you might be talking
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  Speaker 3: to someone who doesn't know that you're wearing an AI
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  Speaker 3: pendant that is listening to their every word and might
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  Speaker 3: comment on it later. If the reviews of this were tough,
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  Speaker 3: the social backlash to this device was even Tougher friend
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  Speaker 3: made a big push into physical advertising with billboards and
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  Speaker 3: you know, physical advertisements and cities across the country, including
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  Speaker 3: here in New York City. Well, it was hard to
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  Speaker 3: find a Friend ad that was not vandalized or in
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  Speaker 3: the process so being actively vandalized. In fact, here in
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  Speaker 3: New York City there were several events that were pre
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  Speaker 3: planned on social media for people to go out and
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  Speaker 3: specifically vandalize and make fun of this one product.
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  Speaker 1: Great stuff, all right, you know what, I don't worry.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to interrupt you, but I am because
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  Speaker 2: we only have a couple three minutes left, and we
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  Speaker 2: really want to get into the best gadgets of twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the easy part here is that they're all kind
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  Speaker 3: of centered around the same theme. I've got three on
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  Speaker 3: my list. One is the Nintendo Switch to a very
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  Speaker 3: hot gaming device from this past You're probably the biggest
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  Speaker 3: gaming device of the year. This is a device that
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  Speaker 3: you can play as a handheld or you can plug
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  Speaker 3: it into your TV to have a more console like experience.
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  Speaker 3: Brand new generation this year, they've already sold more than
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  Speaker 3: ten million units, so it's doing something correct. Apple came
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  Speaker 3: out with the third generation of the air Pods Pro.
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  Speaker 3: These are there in ear earbuds that added some interesting
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  Speaker 3: features like a translation feature that you know, if you're
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  Speaker 3: talking to someone who speaking a different language, it will
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  Speaker 3: live translate in your ears.
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  Speaker 1: Brands with it all.
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  Speaker 3: It's very cool and brings with it all the stuff
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  Speaker 3: that people like about the AirPods already, which is good
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  Speaker 3: sound quality and good active noise cancelation. And then the
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  Speaker 3: third one I have on the list is the new
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  Speaker 3: Nissan Leaf, an electric vehicle from Nissan now has more
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  Speaker 3: than three hundred miles of range and is going on
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  Speaker 3: sale hitting dealer lots really right around now for about
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  Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars, significant given that there is no longer
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  Speaker 3: a federal incentive to buy electric vehicles that expired at
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  Speaker 3: the beginning of November, and the average new car cost
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  Speaker 3: in the US is hovering around fifty thousand dollars. The
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  Speaker 3: theme between all three of these gadgets is that these
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  Speaker 3: are existing products, right, A Nintendo Switch, Apple AirPod Pro,
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  Speaker 3: and a Nissan Leaf. They've been around for several years
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  Speaker 3: that the latest generations don't screw it up right. They
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  Speaker 3: add some nice little quality of life features here and there.
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  Speaker 3: The Switch gets a bigger screen, the Airpod's pro get
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  Speaker 3: this live translation feature. The Nissan Leaf gets more range.
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  Speaker 3: But at their core, theyre's still the things that people love.
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  Speaker 3: They've ridden that to a lot of success.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you.
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  Speaker 2: The one that fascinates me because I enjoy traveling whenever
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  Speaker 2: I can. Is this air pod with the translation feature.
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  Speaker 2: If I get this right, I am speaking to someone
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  Speaker 2: as they are speaking to me in Italian or Finish
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. In real time, I'm hearing what they're saying
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  Speaker 2: in English or in near real time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So it takes maybe a second or two delay
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  Speaker 3: for the AirPods to hear what the other person is
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  Speaker 3: saying and then do the act of translating. But it
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  Speaker 3: is close enough, according to the people who review it,
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  Speaker 3: to like carry on a relatively normal conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Now now, but you have to speak their language correct, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, there is no well so supposedly, if you have
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  Speaker 3: your phone hooked up to do this properly, you can
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  Speaker 3: speak back in English and on your iPhone it will
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  Speaker 3: display whatever the you know, Italian equivalent of what you're
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  Speaker 3: saying is.
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  Speaker 1: It's really really cool.
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  Speaker 3: Now, there's some stuff to clean up around the edges.
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  Speaker 3: It's not going to be a perfect translation one night
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  Speaker 3: percent of this time, but it's pretty aren't close.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Like I understand, uh, you know, using the word
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  Speaker 2: pianist is is very difficult or talking, you know, going
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  Speaker 2: to the store, buying furniture at sofa king. Okay, we're done, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: thank you, we'll talk again. Greatly, appreciate it as always.
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  Speaker 2: All right, all right, here's something weird going on and
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  Speaker 2: it has to do with consumerism. And I'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: what's really strange is we are really concerned about affordability.
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  Speaker 2: That's a that's a given all right, even the Trump
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  Speaker 2: administration as well as Democrats, I mean, everybody is talking
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  Speaker 2: about GEEP. Prices are going up very quickly, and affordability
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  Speaker 2: now is sort of the mantra.
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  Speaker 1: Across the board politically.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so we're concerned about it, and our confidence level
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  Speaker 2: is dropping like a rock.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough. At the same.
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  Speaker 2: Time, the economy is doing unbelievably well. Unemployment is going up,
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  Speaker 2: the stock market is at record high. The GDP a
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  Speaker 2: gross domestic product, which is the growth of the economy,
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  Speaker 2: is now at four point nine percent, the largest it
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  Speaker 2: has been, way beyond expectations, and so who knows what
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  Speaker 2: the hell is going on? Uh, it's we're infra ride
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  Speaker 2: or maybe you know the Some economists are talking about
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  Speaker 2: the bubble it has to burst.
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  Speaker 1: Well it hasn't.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I remember when the uh, when the stock
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  Speaker 2: market was at twenty thousand, and it couldn't go beyond that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was gonna drop. It was gonna drop,
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  Speaker 2: and then it climbs, and it climbs and it climbs.
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  Speaker 2: How about bitcoin? Who would have thought, I mean, who
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  Speaker 2: would have thought bitcoin can reach one hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 2: six thousand dollars for a bitcoin and it first came out,
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  Speaker 2: a penny would buy you several bitcoins.
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  Speaker 1: So we don't really know what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: We've got high prices, a fragile job market because of
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  Speaker 2: AI and the economy in general, anxiety about the tariffs,
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  Speaker 2: which are mixed messages which I believe in a whole
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  Speaker 2: lot of believer or not doing anybody any good. The
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  Speaker 2: reality is, as the President says, foreign the company, the
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  Speaker 2: countries are paying the tariffs that we're tariffing.
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  Speaker 1: That's not true.
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  Speaker 2: We pay the tariffs for those of you that have
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  Speaker 2: tariff goods. You tell me who you write the check to, right,
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  Speaker 2: what do you mean you write the check? Yeah, the
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  Speaker 2: governments or the companies coming out of China don't write
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  Speaker 2: the checks we do, And so no one really knows
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  Speaker 2: what's going on. If I had to guess, I think
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  Speaker 2: unemployment's going to increase. I do believe the bubble is
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  Speaker 2: going to burst. But then again, who am I other
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  Speaker 2: than the most desperate person out there in terms of
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  Speaker 2: where the future is going, Because, as you know, even
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  Speaker 2: when it's really really good, my life is we're just
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  Speaker 2: around the corner to being really really bad. So life
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  Speaker 2: is bad when it's bad life is bad when it's
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  Speaker 2: not so bad, and life is bad when it's great.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's not true, because I am a realist.
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  Speaker 2: I just know the next month it'll go into the toilet.
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  Speaker 2: But the reality here is, you know, all kidding aside,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how much kidding I do, actually is
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  Speaker 2: that none of this makes sense. It's the weirdest economy going.
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  Speaker 2: All right, fie, I am six forty handle here it
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  Speaker 2: is a Tuesday morning.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, great song, cono.
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  Speaker 2: It goes right into my topic of what the university's
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  Speaker 2: colleges are over selling and there are they over selling education? Well,
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  Speaker 2: certainly parts of it, and universities now are looking at
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  Speaker 2: twin crises. AI being one of them, is eroding their
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  Speaker 2: monopoly on instruction. Where universities used to be able to
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  Speaker 2: help you navigate the world in terms of critical thinking,
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  Speaker 2: in terms of even the studying part, it's not the
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  Speaker 2: same anymore. AI has absolutely wiped out a lot of
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  Speaker 2: what colleges and universities have to offer. And considering the
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  Speaker 2: expense of AI, or excuse me, the expense of colleges
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  Speaker 2: of a university education, now we're talking some real serious
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  Speaker 2: thinking and choosing among potential college students and parents. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the other thing that's going on right now is high
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  Speaker 2: levels loneliness historically, So if higher education is going to
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  Speaker 2: justify itself, it has to confront both of these realities
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  Speaker 2: AI and just loneliness that the students experience. Particularly since
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  Speaker 2: we had the pandemic, people were studying at home, and
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  Speaker 2: by the way, home studying remote studying does better than classroom.
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  Speaker 2: You learn more, you learn in a quicker amount of time,
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  Speaker 2: and it's more comprehensive. But the problem is you don't
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  Speaker 2: have the socialization and we're finding out and these are
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  Speaker 2: studies coming out that missing.
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  Speaker 1: That is a real problem.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that college does is students get together.
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  Speaker 2: You go to the student union, you hang out it
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  Speaker 2: before and after classes, you talk to people, and that
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  Speaker 2: is part and parcel of going to class, of discussing
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  Speaker 2: ideas of expanding your world.
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  Speaker 1: None of that happens with AI.
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  Speaker 2: We know people are getting far more lonely than they
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  Speaker 2: ever have for all kinds of reasons, one of them,
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  Speaker 2: especially students, one of them being that they're never talking
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  Speaker 2: in anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Same thing with people that are in the workforce.
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  Speaker 2: We just don't talk to anybody We don't socialize when
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  Speaker 2: I'm in studio. There's four of us, and do we
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  Speaker 2: do much talking between the breaks?
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  Speaker 1: We don't.
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  Speaker 2: When I'm at home, I talk to my dogs, which
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  Speaker 2: by the way, is a much better conversation than I've
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  Speaker 2: ever had in studio.
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  Speaker 1: But you're welcome. But there is a sense of loneliness.
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  Speaker 2: Michelle, who has been our executive producer for I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how many years now, Michelle, we used to have
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  Speaker 2: a room full of people.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we used to have a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: Now after the show, I'll go over where she sits
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  Speaker 2: and it is an empty football stadium.
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  Speaker 1: I mean there's nothing there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, have you felt a sense of loneliness
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  Speaker 2: at work?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, not me personally, because I'm I just I don't
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  Speaker 3: ever really feel lonely.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not over.
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  Speaker 4: I'm good with time with myself.
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  Speaker 1: Now, so am I.
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  Speaker 2: But only for just a few minutes at a time,
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  Speaker 2: and then that parts over, and then I go back.
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  Speaker 1: To hating myself, hating the people around me.
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  Speaker 2: But even I'm not particularly a people person, and even
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  Speaker 2: I feel fairly lonely when I come there to the studio.
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  Speaker 2: It affects me. It does affect me because here I'm
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  Speaker 2: in the studio, in my studio at home this morning,
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  Speaker 2: I expect to be my myself, and frankly, I am
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  Speaker 2: looking at the rest of the crew that I am
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  Speaker 2: working with. I look at Amy, which I can't in
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  Speaker 2: the studio because she's behind that glass in the broadcast booth.
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  Speaker 2: I look at Will who, which is a real pleasure,
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  Speaker 2: I might add. I look at Will and he I
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  Speaker 2: never see him, Michelle, I would never see uh.
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  Speaker 1: And of course Kno, I unfortunately do.
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  Speaker 2: See And when Neil is here, I either see him
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  Speaker 2: or when he's in his studio at home, I look
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  Speaker 2: at him. So actually I'm less lonely being by myself
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  Speaker 2: broadcasting than I would be in studio. However, we don't
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  Speaker 2: talk during the breaks where we normally do.
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  Speaker 1: Amy.
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  Speaker 2: When I'm in the studio, Amy comes in during the
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  Speaker 2: breaks and bothers the hell out of me, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll say things.
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  Speaker 1: She'll come in and say something and.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you know, react, get out, and then she goes
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  Speaker 2: back to her news the newsroom. How big is the newsroom, Amy,
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  Speaker 2: the booth, Yeah, it's we call it the newsroom, of.
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  Speaker 4: Course, it's about four Well, it's bigger than that.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: It's really small. You can't be claustrophobic. It feels like
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  Speaker 2: you're in a small elevator.
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  Speaker 4: It's not that small.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty small. But that's our case.
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  Speaker 4: News room, well, this is the news booth. The news
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  Speaker 4: room is down the hall.
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  Speaker 1: Which doesn't exist anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's still there. There's nobody.
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  Speaker 1: That's an empty room. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Like KYF I will used to be up in the air, right, yes,
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  Speaker 2: and that was KFI in the sky, in the sky. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: now it's and they won't even admit it. We're KFI
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  Speaker 2: on the ground. They won't even let you say that anymore.
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  Speaker 1: They won't. Okay, all right, we're done with that.
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  Speaker 2: So, uh, what do they do in Japan for Christmas? H?
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  Speaker 1: Surprise surprise?
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  Speaker 2: You know if the national Uh, we do turkey right
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  Speaker 2: across the country. Sometimes ham and traditionalists will do a goose.
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  Speaker 2: If you have read a lot of Charles Dickens, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know what they do in Japan barrels of Kentucky
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  Speaker 2: Fried Chicken. Their turkey is KFC. And it all started
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  Speaker 2: a fascinating story. There is was and still around. I
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  Speaker 2: believe a guy who opened up he was the general
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  Speaker 2: manager of the first KFC in Japan and Tokyo. That
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  Speaker 2: was nineteen seventy and so in the store he heard
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  Speaker 2: a couple of Americans talking each other, this was during
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  Speaker 2: the Christmas season, and how they missed having turkey for Christmas,
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  Speaker 2: and he went the light bulb went off, and he said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, how about a Christmas dinner of fried chicken?
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  Speaker 1: How could that be? Wouldn't that make a fine substitute.
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  Speaker 2: So that year, first year the KFC opened up, he
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  Speaker 2: began marketing his party barrel as a way to celebrate Christmas. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Christmas is not religious at all, because the Japanese are
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  Speaker 2: not Christians for the most part. In nineteen seventy four,
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  Speaker 2: he took the marketing plan national across all the KFC's
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  Speaker 2: which at that point were now being built in Japan,
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  Speaker 2: and it was called Guri Sumasu niwa Kentucky or Kentucky
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  Speaker 2: for Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: Very interesting guy Allahada.
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  Speaker 2: He went to Harvard educated, He went through the company
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  Speaker 2: ranks because he's obviously very bright. Became president and CEO
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  Speaker 2: of Kentucky Fried Chicken from nineteen eighty four to twenty ten.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: And when he opened up that party barrel. When he
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: first started selling that party barrel, it almost immediately became
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  Speaker 2: a national phenomena. And according to an associate professor of
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: marketing at Amalon School in France who has actually studied
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: the KFC Christmas in Japan as a model for a
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: promotions campaign, he said, it philled devoid because there was
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: no tradition of Christmas. KFC came in and said, you
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: know what, We're going to have a tradition of Christmas.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Now the Japanese knew that. Of course the Christmas existed,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: but there was no tradition. Well there is now, and
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: what is it. It's a bucket of chicken where everybody sits
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: around and they all who gets the biggest pizzas pieces
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: of chicken? And he sells a family sized meal sized boxes.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Now this is interesting. Okay, you know you can buy
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: a Christmas dinner at the supermarket. They'll give you They
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: do that for passover, to just buy the entire meal.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Right, go to Honey Bake, They'll give you the entire meal.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: There they do an entire meal around buckets of chicken, cake, wine,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: the whole shebang. So if you ever go to Japan
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: during Christmas time, you will see people ordering up chicken.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, if they don't order it,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: it advance, uh, and people just go in. It's like
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a Honey Baked Ham store during the holidays. When you
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: don't have a pickup, that line goes out the door.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Matter of fact, when you do have a pickup, the
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: line goes out the door. All right, guys, we're finished.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: That's it for a Tuesday morning. Tomorrow, we are all back.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: It's my last day until the first of the year,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: so it should be a fun Wednesday, and Michelle will be.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Here and we're all going to be here. And Will
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: You're not here tomorrow.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Nope, But I'm going to get KFC.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes you are.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: I'm so hungry for KFC right now.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, when are you coming back January? Yep? Oh, just
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: like guy. Okay, so we're gonna do the show without
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: you tomorrow.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: You got the the Heather Brooker.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like Heather. I'm not going to say
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: she is so much better than you are.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: But you don't have to Bill, you don't.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, fair enough? And Kno's back tomorrow. Will is
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: back tomorrow. I assume Michelle is back tomorrow and I
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: will be here and we'll I'll get a fun story
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: about the Christmas Sleigh of Santa Claus and how tracking
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: them all over the world started well here in the
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: United States, and of course it's become international. It's a
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: great story. I'll share that with you, among other ones.
• 21:15
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