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ROP Conversations with Guest Zunairah Rafay: Flow Instead of Fear · Revolution of Purpose Podcast

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Welcome to the Revolution of Purpose Podcast. I'm your host,
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John Streit, and each week we bring you conversations with thought leaders,
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entrepreneurs, and individuals who have aligned their life with
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purpose and created extraordinary results. So I'm going to live
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Hello and welcome to Revolution of Purpose. I'm your host,
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John Street. I am so happy that you're here with me today.
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So today I am so excited to introduce you to my friend
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and mentee and co-author of the book Revolution
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of Purpose, Zunaira Rafay. Zunaira is an
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alignment coach, a hypnotherapist, an NLP practitioner,
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and she specializes in helping individuals and leaders reconnect
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with their highest potential. Her work goes far
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beyond surface level level change. She focuses on deep subconscious
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transformation through modalities like NLP, which is neuro-linguistic
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programming, a timeline therapy. She allows her
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clients to shift identity patterns and release those emotional
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blocks. She creates lasting internal alignment.
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She works with both individuals and organizations, guiding high
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performers and leaders through identity evolution,
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emotional mastery, and clarity of purpose so they
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can operate at their highest level, not just in what they do, but who they
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are. And what makes this conversation so powerful today
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is that we're not just talking about mindset. We are
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talking about these subconscious patterns that shape our identity,
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those internal rewirings that are required for real
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transformation and what it truly means to become the
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version of yourself that your purpose is calling you to.
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So, Naira, welcome to Revolution of Purpose Podcast.
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Thank you so much. It's such an honor. I am so
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happy to be here. I haven't been introduced like that, so it feels so good.
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Thank you so much for doing that. I love that. How are you doing today?
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You'll get used to it. It's the first of many, and I'm,
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I'm doing really well. I've been so looking forward to this conversation. I know
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we have been talking about this for about a year.
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Oh my gosh. And it's, it's really exciting to me to,
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to do this because your work, it really sits at the intersection of
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identity and mindset and transformation.
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So before we get into, into everything I want to talk
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about today, I want to start here. I want to ask you this question,
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Z. Who are you today that the younger version
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of yourself would be proud of? Oh my God, so many
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things. For, for starters, I think I'm someone
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who's very liberated and comfortable in her skin,
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someone who doesn't overthink or like, you know, has— is spiraling
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around decision-making and stuff, someone who stepped into her
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higher self who makes decisions that are aligned, you know,
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not from a place of survival, survival or people pleasing.
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But yeah, like to begin with that I feel like
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she would be really proud of me today. That's outstanding, and I'm sure she is.
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I'm sure she is. I know in the Revolution of Purpose
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coaching program where we, we wrote a letter from
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our goal-achieved life to our current self— yes, it would be a good idea to
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write a letter to that younger self and just let her know what
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you're doing now and, and how amazingly independent
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and brilliant and strong you are and how bright your light
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is shining around the world. Thank you so much. It wouldn't
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have happened without you. You know that you played such an important
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role in my life, especially for this. Uh, it makes me emotional
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every time, but like, I am so blessed to have you, so honored
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to be a part of this. Thank you so much, Z. It is, it is,
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um, an honor for me to be a mentor and
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coach in your life. And I'm so thrilled, just so thrilled the
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way the universe connected us, how everything just has come together, and the
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way that we're growing together is really amazing. I mean,
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there's no doubt you found me on Instagram and it just started
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there, and we had the book, the coaching program, and everything. And it's,
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it's been amazing to see your, your change in life,
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you know. Um, when we started working together, you were doing
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voiceover work and some ghostwriting and things like that, and during
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the coaching program, you really started to believe, hey,
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I want to do the same type of thing. What was that transformation like
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for you? Or, and even more, what was the catalyst that brought that decision
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on? Oh, you know where it's gonna go.
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So it was basically when we were doing the ikigai exercise,
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and I feel like— and I think it was when we were all
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doing it collectively that something lit up, and I was like Oh
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my God, what is this feeling? I've never felt like this before.
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I felt so alive. I felt so awakened. And I was like, oh my
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God. And then at the same time, I was really terrified. I was like,
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what is that? I can't ignore this. This, this is really strong.
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I gotta listen to this. And then it just like everything
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started to fall into place, even though at the time,
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you know how things were, it felt like it was falling apart, but it was
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all basically aligning and falling into place.
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Absolutely. And it was, I mean, it was like
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watching a, uh, an eagle learn to fly during
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the coaching program. Yeah, you were like, why didn't you think of this before?
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You'll be great at this. And I was like, what?
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I think a part of me wanted you to not validate that or like think
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a little bit, because then I would be like, okay, because I'd want to stay
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in my comfort zone. Because becoming a guide was, has been completely
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getting out of my comfort zone. And honestly, nothing has grown me more than this.
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And you were like, yeah, you would be so good at it. Why aren't you
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doing this? I was like, oh my God, now this is another sign I have
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to do this. And then you took it to like a whole nother level.
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You know, so much of what I do at mindset work, we go
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deep, but you go to like this deeper
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NLP hypnotic subconscious level.
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All the way in, all the way in.
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It's crazy. And you know, I'm really excited about exploring that
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side of it with you today, for sure. So if someone is hearing
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this for the first time, how much of our identity is
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actually being driven by the subconscious versus our
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conscious thought? So honestly, John, I feel like it's everything because
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our decision-making, our conditioning, it's all in the subconscious
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mind, right? Everything has been wired from our
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subconscious mind because we've been conditioned a certain way. And unfortunately,
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a lot of people don't even know that they've been conditioned a certain way and
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all of the opinions that they believe that are their beliefs are
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basically projections and others' opinions.
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So, um, yeah, like a big, big part of it.
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Because when I started my journey and I started shedding off a
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lot of layers and, you know, coming into my inner dialogue and my purpose
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as well, and it wasn't very long ago, to be honest, and it
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was like, oh my God, what have I been doing with my life? Where have
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I been? I feel like I've only lived 3 years even though I'm 33.
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So that's how it feels. And it's scary, but I feel like it's the most
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beautiful thing. If you're out to understand your own truth,
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you have to dig into the subconscious mind and know who
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you really are at the core. That's huge.
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What do you think are like some really common subconscious patterns
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that people use to hold themselves back? You know,
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in the coaching program, I love to call these our limiting beliefs,
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you know, because they really are. They're these limiting beliefs that are
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like prison cells to us,
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but they're actually of our own making that we can just
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walk right through anytime. What do you see, like, when you're
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working with people? What do you feel like so many are getting stuck in?
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Honestly, John, you couldn't have put it better because they are basically
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prison cells, right? And I feel like we've lived that
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life as well, so we understand what that feels like. And then breaking from those
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as well, we know that feeling as well. People do have a lot of
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limitations. I feel like it's not really about just the limiting beliefs.
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I feel like they're more scared to become a version of themselves
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that requires them to be their highest self,
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you know, because you, you've taught us this as well. It's all about be,
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do, have, right? So it all comes down to who you're supposed to be at
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the subconscious level, and rewiring that identity is really important.
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So some people would be really good to like tune
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in, they'd be really comfortable with the shifts, and some would be like, okay,
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you know, like, uh, okay, like, am I ready for this? Am I not ready
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for this? Do you want to take this path? But what I've learned as a
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guide, the kind of energy and frequency I carry to a session,
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that makes a huge difference.
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They automatically pick up. So now I understand
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how much of, how much of others' projections and how much of others' frequencies,
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like, I was also trapped in. So if I could, like, you know, if my
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frequency and my high vibration could have a domino effect for the
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other, then they can, you know, like, this is really good. So it's like
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we all can really heal collectively. It's great.
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You know, it goes deeper and deeper and deeper. I can't stop talking about
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it. No, I love it though. And would you say when
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you're seeing people identifying their own limiting beliefs,
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when you're working with a client, Doesn't that do the same for you?
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Like, doesn't that trigger in your mind, you're like, oh my gosh, I've been doing
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that same thing? And so many times our clients are really kind
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of teaching us and showing us as we're guiding them. I didn't know every
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other guide felt that way. Thank you so much for telling me that.
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I thought I was the only one. And God works in these
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amazing ways, right? Like, he's going to send a person that
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is going to impact us as well as a guide. I feel like it's
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both ways. It's not just us impacting the other, it's like a two-way street.
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And they're good, they're going to bring a part of us out, they're going
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to help us grow into a version of ourselves that we were not tapping
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into. So I know exactly what you're talking about.
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It's like, you know, every time I help someone heal with something,
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I feel like that part of me is also healed. So it's the most beautiful
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feeling ever. That is so beautiful, and it is amazing
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how this happens even from around the world. So you
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guys watching this, um, Zunaira is in Pakistan,
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I'm in the southeastern part of the United States, and because of the
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miracles of modern technology, we can have an interview like this, we can have a
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podcast like this. And it is amazing how even from
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around the world, I can feel her energy,
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she can feel my energy, and she's so right. As we're working
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with people and they heal, there is a part of us that heals
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along with them. Even when you're watching this, it's not bound by time either.
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It's not space, it's not bound by time, it's not bound by anything. We love
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that concept. We're flowing in that energetic field. We love that concept. Oh yes,
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it's amazing. I have chills, but I love it. I, I feel like
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you look at time differently as well when you learn to really
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channel yourself, right? Like before, it would be like, like we were just talking about
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it a while ago, like, okay, we can do this when this happens, or we
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can do that when this happens. The breakthroughs are so fast.
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The shifts happen so fast when you're tapping into your higher self and you're like,
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okay, I'm gonna take the discomfort and I'm gonna step into my highest self.
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I'll make the decisions. And when you're aligned with those decisions,
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it's like your reality is going to be on another level. And it's
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crazy. I love watching that happen for my clients.
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Mm-hmm. I do too. And it's been life-changing.
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You know, I was using time as a limiting belief,
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and I truly was like, well, when I do this, then I can
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do this, and then I can do this, or I will have this success
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when I'm this age, you know, when I've done coaching for this
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long, or my book has been out this long, or my podcast has
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been out this long. And I'm basically telling the universe
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what I'm allowing when I do that, because we're creating our
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reality that we see around us every single day, every single thought,
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all of the energy that we're flowing in. And it wasn't until,
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you know, I was— and we talked about this before this call, but I was
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in Austin, Texas with, uh, our friend
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and mindset coach Adam Avenis, and he was talking about
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how the quantum physics part of time, where every different
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um, option of our life already exists,
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and how when we go on our frequency up that map of consciousness,
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we are actually aligning with that time where it exists.
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And it was just mind-blowing when I finally got it.
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And I'm just like, you know what, like,
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God, Source, our higher power, the universe is
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so big that I don't have to wait for
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some amazing groundbreaking idea, it can happen like that
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and change my entire life in an instant. I don't have to keep looking at
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one day. I can believe that it can all happen right now. And that
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has been a gigantic shift in my life just in the past couple of months
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even. I love that. There's this friend of mine who recently said
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something really beautiful. If, if you know your why strongly,
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your how becomes really easy. And I do remember the
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same friend you were talking about, Adam, right? And the time I spoke to him,
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he was like, listen, talk about what you, you know, like what your timeline should
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look like. Don't talk about the how, you don't have to worry about it.
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And I was like, hey wait, he's so right. That's not for me to worry
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about. People usually get stuck in the how. And this is something
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I also face with my clients as well. And I have to constantly tell them,
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listen, it's not up to you. You just have to put in the effort.
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You just have to align with your highest self. Yourself. You gotta be that person,
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and the how will automatically happen.
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We can't— we don't know the how, right? God has
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the best plans for us. He has the best ways things are designed for us.
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He is the best creator, right? We can't be that creative,
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you know? So we gotta let the how be,
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and we just have to like tap into what we're supposed to do.
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And believing that if we're tapped into that highest
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consciousness if we are tapped into God, that that same
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creative passion, that same creative fervor
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is flowing through us. Like when we realize, like you
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said, it's not up to us. When we try to put limitations on
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ourselves, we're actually putting limitations on God. We're saying, well,
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the same God that we see working around us in the
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universe at all times is not big enough to do this for me.
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You know, but that's just not it. It's just not the way it is.
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We've learned too many times that God is absolutely massive
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and can absolutely create through us in an instant anything
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that we desire, anything that would change our lives. Absolutely.
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I think it's something we also accomplished in one of our mastermind calls
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as well, that, you know, if you're doubting yourself, you're doubting God. Please pardon
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Mention be, do, have. You know, that is the crux
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of the teaching. I know watching Bob
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Proctor talk about that, um, was just so powerful
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to me. And like, before I even knew about this mindset,
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like just seeing the whole, you have to become your goal achieved
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person. And then when you do, you will do the things that
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person does, and then you'll have the things that person has. And I love
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that because it, on one hand, it puts the responsibility on us.
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On the other hand, it takes the responsibility off of us because it's
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really saying that if we just become that person, we'll naturally flow
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instead of hustle. We mentioned earlier about how we get into
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hustle culture and how hustle culture can absolutely
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drive you nuts trying to be a success, and it's not the way it's
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meant to be. We're meant to have success through our flow and,
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and not through our, our pushing, you know? Yeah.
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If you've seen that podcast of Alex Hormozi and Tony Robbins, that was
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such a good example. That was such a good example of it.
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Yeah. Expand on that a little more.
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So for me, like, I honestly believe that
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I was also a big part of it, right? Because I didn't really understand
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what be, do, have really means. So it was all about chasing
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from a lack mindset, from a scarcity mindset, and just like more
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and do more and do more and do more and do more, when it's really
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about being more, right? And when it's about being
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more, it's more about being in tuned, allowing yourself to pause,
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understanding your own truth. And you know what people
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really need to understand, that when you're elevating as your highest
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yourself, anything that is meant for you will not cross you.
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You know, we need to have that faith in God. We need to have that
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faith in ourselves. Because when we're in that hustle
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culture and we're constantly just like performing from survival, right, our subconscious
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mind is on a— in a low vibration, is activated in a
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low vibration. And we're telling ourselves all these, you know, limiting beliefs.
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And time is very different, like time is not enough, this is not enough,
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or constantly anxious and our nervous system is constantly dysregulated,
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right? So the work I do around the subconscious mind and nervous system regulation
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really allows you to come out of that dysregulated
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state, heal your past traumas, childhood wounds,
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your anxieties, and whatever, you know, that's been holding you back,
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even the limiting beliefs. And then you become at a level that
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you're elevated as your highest self. And when I say highest self, That's someone who's
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aligned with your decision-making, right? It has to be true to who you
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are. You know, it doesn't matter what anybody says. It doesn't matter
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what anybody believes about money, success, as long as it's true to you.
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That's your highest self. That is so powerful.
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That really is because no one else is going to see your alignment.
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You know, it's your alignment. Like that's so many people.
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Are always asking opinions of things they know the answer to,
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but they just want that validation. They just want somebody to tell them.
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Just like I wanted yours. I was like, should I be doing this or not?
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Well, and you almost wanted me to say no because you're like, that's overwhelming
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to me. And I'm like, no, yeah, that's exactly what you should do. And you're
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like, man, yeah, you know. But even recently,
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yeah, even recently with all the decisions, I feel like now that I'm practicing
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this muscle more. It is uncomfortable. There is discomfort,
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right? When you're— when you have to be your highest self, I feel like you
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become more stronger in taking more high-risk,
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you know, high-risk decisions. You know, you're taking more risk.
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Go on, you have something to say. Well, I know that just made me think
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of the best question for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And how
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would you say— let's say someone's watching this and they want
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to know the difference between feeling uncomfortable
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and being misaligned? Because sometimes you have
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to challenge your discomfort and that's the aligned decision,
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you know? So how do you tell the difference between those 2 things?
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So what I've realized is that when you're feeling misaligned,
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right, your body is going to tell you a different story. It's going to say
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no, like this is not for you. This doesn't align with your
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values because when you're stepping into alignment, you would know your values,
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right? You've, you must have done enough work on yourself to know at least
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what are your core values. And when you're taking that decision
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and, you know, stepping into that discomfort, you're gonna feel
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the peace. You'll still feel a little uneasy, but there is
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going to be peace. Okay, I've made the right decision. You're gonna feel like,
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oh, I've shed another layer off. I'm one more step closer.
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You know, it's always about that feeling of being one one more step closer.
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And I think be— having that feeling is really validating
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because then that's like proof of, okay, you've become closer to who you're supposed to
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be. I think that's huge because you're gonna have that terror
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barrier. You're gonna have that barrier, yeah, moment of fear
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that you have to bust through, but you're still aligned,
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you know. And there is that— I think it's just a deep knowing, you know.
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There is something deep down inside of you that says,
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this is right, even if it's scaring me to death, this is
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right. And I have to bust through the fear and flow in that.
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And I think you're 100% right. Because you can, you can tell,
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you may have to get quiet and really listen, but you can tell. Yeah,
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your body is far more intelligent than your brain, by the way. And your body
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knows, your body knows, oh my God, and intuition,
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it can do wonders if you can tap into that. Yesterday I
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was just speaking to this guide friend of mine, and I was like, you know,
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like, I need to have a particular conversation with a particular someone. You know who
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I'm talking about. And like, what do I do about this and all? He was
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like, listen, just go inside yourself and be
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in your core. You'll know what to say, because if it's coming from your truth,
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the conversation is coming from your truth. If it's really real to
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you, it's honest to you, it's gonna create more alignment for you. And if
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the other person is in receptive enough, then that will show
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you you were never supposed to align to begin with. And I was
24:10
like, wait, that's so powerful. Because like, when you're
24:14
supposed to be in alignment, right, like it shows. You get, you get
24:17
that validation from God, basically, you know. It's like,
24:20
it's like even the— even your reality, your current reality,
24:23
and people around you might not agree, they might not understand,
24:27
they're, you know, at different levels in their life. And that's kind completely fine,
24:30
you know, everybody has their own journey. But I feel
24:33
like God validates you in ways, the universe validates
24:38
you in ways when you're in alignment. And you can tell the people
24:42
that don't align with you, like their energy just doesn't match your energy.
24:46
And that's okay. I think we did a lot of work around that back
24:50
in our OP. Definitely. And I remember coming to you about,
24:54
you know, a few people and you were And you know what I, what I
24:56
really loved about you as well, John, you, you weren't that kind of a person
25:00
who would be like, okay, just impulsively make the decision. This was something I liked
25:04
about you too. You were like, give it some time, understand where it's coming from,
25:07
how you're making that decision, and just like step into your highest self
25:10
and how would she act? And then that would make things a lot
25:14
easier. That is really important too.
25:18
When we make sure we're in alignment, then we can make decisions that
25:22
are aligned a lot easier. So that is,
25:25
that is true. So kind of shifting gears a little bit,
25:28
I do want to delve into more of the NLP
25:32
and timeline therapy that you do and kind of share
25:35
with people exactly what is happening during that process.
25:40
Both of these questions. So with NLP, you know,
25:44
it's just simply helping a person create new neural pathways
25:48
in our brain, right? New ways of thinking. Simply that you have certain
25:52
interventions, you have certain exercises, you have certain questions,
25:56
you have certain breathwork— because I'm really into breathwork. I feel like breathwork
26:00
is phenomenal. If you can add those to your interventions,
26:03
they do wonders. So through that, you're opening the portal
26:07
to the subconscious mind as well, right? And when you're doing that, you're also welcoming
26:10
and inviting God, because I feel like my work is really rooted around
26:13
that, right? So when you're tapping into that self
26:17
and you're allowing yourself to, you know, when have new ways of
26:21
thinking, questioning your own self, questioning your own conditioning,
26:25
and then you have that like breakthrough, a client would have a particular breakthrough.
26:29
Oh, okay, maybe this is not mine. Maybe someone told
26:32
me that when I was a child, right? Or maybe this was
26:36
some, some insecurity my parents had as well, you know, because they're
26:40
human beings as well at the end of the day, and they pick up from
26:42
their parents as well. So they learn to separate
26:47
the two, right? And with that being said,
26:50
timeline therapy work is also something rooted in that, right?
26:54
Like, because it is a huge part of NLP, right, when you're
26:58
recreating your reality as well. So in timeline therapy, you go
27:02
back to a person's timeline, you explore the root cause of where
27:06
that particular trauma, anxiety,
27:09
negative emotion basically started and stemmed from. And it
27:14
does wonders, John. Sometimes it'll take you into a very
27:17
imaginative timeline where, you know, I don't know if
27:21
you believe in this, but I do believe in generational trauma. And a lot of
27:24
people have been able to heal their generational trauma as well through
27:28
timeline therapy. That is so huge.
27:32
Well, so many people carry around that emotional weight from past
27:36
experiences and their traumas, and then Yep. When you look at this
27:41
family cycles that are passed down one after another after
27:44
another, someone has to be the one to break that cycle,
27:48
you know. So I guess when you're talking about timeline therapy,
27:52
when it comes to breaking those, those cycles of trauma,
27:56
how, how does that happen? How do you help someone do that?
28:00
Okay, so I would love to do a live example with you,
28:04
but some other time whenever you're comfortable. Yeah,
28:07
I love it. Maybe another episode. Oh my,
28:11
this is triggering hypnotherapy time. No, no, no. So basically
28:15
you just relax the person enough in a particular state of mind where
28:18
they're comfortable enough to go into their timeline,
28:22
right? And the timeline is basically the past,
28:25
present, and the future— every person's timeline. And you
28:30
never know where you're going to pick up. We sometimes feel like we know
28:34
where a particular trauma or a negative emotion has stemmed
28:37
from. But when you're doing timeline therapy work, the answers
28:41
come out very differently and very uniquely. Sometimes it
28:44
could be when I was 3 years old, it could be when a person was
28:48
7 years old, it could be something they picked up from a parent, or it
28:51
could be something their grandmother had, you know. Like, it'll, it'll do like really
28:55
crazy stuff. Or it could be something recent as well,
28:58
because you're getting them that— you're getting them into a particular
29:02
state of being where they're able to channel their subconscious mind, because the subconscious
29:06
mind stores all the memories in your timeline, right?
29:11
So your subconscious mind has access to it. So when you're tapping into
29:15
that, you're also accessing your subconscious mind and
29:18
accessing that particular memory that was, you know,
29:22
which was like a root cause for that emotion, for that negative emotion,
29:25
basically. So when you understand the root cause, you understand
29:31
the learning, you understand your own positive learning from it, you preserve
29:35
the wisdom and you release the heaviness. And I feel
29:39
like that grows you on another level. That sounds like
29:43
instead of managing their trauma,
29:47
it's releasing it. It's actually bringing about healing through that
29:50
release. Would that be fair, you think? Yes, but you're also
29:54
carrying learning. Right? You access learnings, you access
29:58
anchors, because our body and our mind and everything is really
30:02
connected. And if you could really learn to create a coordination while we're
30:06
working on ourselves or while we're healing, our body
30:09
will support it too. That's,
30:13
that's huge. Yeah, I, I love the, um, the thought
30:18
of timeline therapy. I love, you know, we talked about earlier writing
30:21
a letter to your younger self. I mean, So many traumas
30:25
that we deal with right now are things that we felt
30:29
in childhood, that we felt when we were younger. Absolutely. And it's huge to
30:32
go back and heal that. And that's another way of looking at the timeline,
30:37
because we can in the present go back and heal something that happened
30:41
in the past. And I think that's another way that we can look at a
30:44
timeline as not being linear, because, you know, if we believe
30:48
that, that God and spirit is not controlled bilinear
30:52
time, then why are we? So we can go back in the
30:56
moment and heal that that happened many years ago.
30:59
I have goosebumps. This conversation is great. I love it. I love
31:03
everything. Isn't that awesome? Yeah. Oh my God.
31:06
So when you're working with people and
31:10
they go back in their timeline, um, and they get,
31:14
uh, they get that release, like, what changes
31:18
does that have? Like, what have you seen change in their life
31:21
after they've done that inner work that deeply?
31:25
Okay, I'll give you my own personal example, and I'll give you
31:29
clients' examples as well. So basically, when they're able to do that,
31:32
initially it is a little uncomfortable, you know, accessing the memory. But you have to
31:37
keep them in a particular state which is separate and dissociated
31:41
so they can really take the learnings and not really relive the trauma.
31:45
Right? So for me personally, I feel like, uh, you know this,
31:48
I used to struggle a lot with panic disorder and anxiety and stuff like that,
31:52
right? And I used to have constant panic attacks. And when
31:55
I did timeline therapy for myself as well, and when I got enrolled
32:00
into timeline therapy, I started practicing it. And honestly,
32:04
now I feel like my body doesn't even know what anxiety feels like, thank God.
32:09
But like That's how deep it is, you know. That's how
32:13
transformative it is. I see clients within 2 sessions,
32:17
they're like doing some— I mean, they're like
32:21
literally blowing my mind. And I was like, whoa, like you're blowing my
32:24
mind with like results. You can teach me something new. So it's crazy
32:28
because all that conditioning and all that baggage we're holding out,
32:32
you know, like onto, it's a barrier between us and our highest self.
32:36
And when that barrier is removed, you automatically tap into your higher self
32:40
and you grow on another level. Just like you said, time is not linear when
32:44
you're working on yourself like that. So you can like really tap
32:49
into like years of growth with just like having the right breakthroughs.
32:54
So when they break through like that, I guess it's, it's not
32:58
just an awareness, it is like a literal identity shift. Am I right?
33:01
Like, it sounds like you're saying that they decide
33:06
who they are instead of deciding that they need to keep trying to fix who
33:10
they've been. It's almost like getting them into the present,
33:13
realizing their potential, realizing that in this
33:17
moment there is no limit on who they can be,
33:20
and, and the past no longer keeps them back.
33:24
Absolutely. That's so true, because when they go through
33:28
the discomfort of going in their timeline and accessing that heavy
33:31
emotion or heavy trauma and working on that,
33:34
automatic— automatically your brain knows that you can do this.
33:38
And if you could do this, you could do anything. So you have more confidence
33:43
once you're out of it, right? You're more relaxed, you're more released. Like, because we
33:48
carry this in our body as well, right? We often don't know why something feels
33:52
heavy. Why do we feel anxious? Why do we
33:55
feel sad a lot? Why do we get depressed a lot? Why do, like,
33:58
you know, our anger trigger right away? But when we do timeline
34:02
therapy work, you get to the root cause. You understand and
34:06
you know that you're not your behavior. You're actually someone way
34:10
beyond that. What would you say is
34:14
the hardest part of doing that type of inner work? Okay, so the
34:18
hardest part of that inner work is that the the
34:22
start, and it's only the start because you have to go into that
34:25
timeline, right? And we work in this way that
34:29
we don't even have to like push the client to talk about what happened
34:33
unless and until they really want to. The guidance is enough, the framework is
34:37
enough. So if they don't want us to probe into that memory, they get their
34:40
own confidentiality, their personal space to not talk about
34:44
it as long as they're going through the process. That's the beauty of it.
34:47
Of it. Why do you think some people resist
34:50
change even though they really say they want change?
34:54
Is it just a fear of going into that trauma? Is,
34:58
is that what it is? Like, I thought of, you know, pulling a brick out
35:02
of a wall, that the whole wall might collapse. Yeah. No, this reminds me of
35:05
my favorite quote. It was also in a movie, Coach Carter.
35:09
I think I read it to you too. I don't remember. I don't remember if
35:12
I did, but it goes something like this, that deepest fear is
35:15
not that we're inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we're powerful beyond
35:19
measure. When we liberate our fears,
35:22
we liberate others. Oh my gosh. You know, my favorite
35:26
quote from Rumi, we are not a drop in the ocean. We are the entire
35:30
ocean in one drop. I remember the entire mastermind.
35:33
I remember the entire mastermind when we spoke about this.
35:36
So basically it's that self that they would have to
35:41
become because our nervous system is bound to keep us in the familiar,
35:44
right? Like when we get those terror barriers, they're also like trying
35:48
to protect us. Every negative emotion is also a signal.
35:51
Mm-hmm. You know, it's a signal. It's trying to protect us from,
35:54
from something. So that terror barrier is trying to keep us in the same place.
35:58
It's trying to keep us in the familiar zone. So that familiar
36:02
zone is so comfortable for most of us, and I used to be that person
36:05
as well. It's basically who you need to become beyond that terror
36:09
barrier. Is what, you know, scares people because they're like,
36:12
I don't know what I'm gonna be. Like, I had no idea I was gonna
36:16
be this person. Like, hypnotherapy, are you serious? It hasn't
36:21
even been a year. Yeah, so like, of course it's scary, but it's
36:25
the most beautiful and the most liberating thing you can do for yourself.
36:29
It really is. And seeing how far you've come in the
36:33
last year or so is, is amazing. Even still
36:37
today, where do you find yourself being challenged in your
36:41
own growth? Love that question. So, uh,
36:45
I still struggle with saying no. It's a muscle I'm practicing. You know that
36:49
really well. I always come to you with it. And I feel like Revolution of
36:52
Purpose was something that really taught me how to
36:55
say no. And I think this was the, this was what I picked
36:59
up on, like, you know, how to say no from you. And what
37:04
I realized, that when you learn to say no more, you become more aligned,
37:08
you know? And I'm not saying you're saying no out of fear, out of like,
37:11
you know, uh, some sort of like malice, or you're
37:15
trying to be evil or anything like that. It takes courage to say no.
37:18
It takes a lot of courage for someone like me because
37:22
I used to be this major people pleaser who wanted everyone to be happy,
37:26
everything to stay the same, and everybody should like— but now I'm
37:30
stepping into this identity who's like a little bit of a disruptor, you know,
37:33
like, yeah, shaking things up a lot.
37:36
And stepping into that person hasn't been easy, to be honest.
37:40
There are a lot of nos, there are a lot of like being straight,
37:44
you know, remaining to be kind as well at the same time, but saying
37:48
no, being uncomfortable, taking more risk,
37:52
and taking aligned action. So that's new for me,
37:55
you know, like I have to be okay with being disliked for a
37:59
lot of things. I have to be okay with saying no people. I have to
38:03
be okay if someone does not understand. And this
38:08
has taken a lot for me, to be very honest, because I
38:13
was just like, okay, everybody should be happy. I don't want to say no to
38:16
anyone. But now I started to do that more and more
38:19
and more, and I say no more. And I feel like when I say no
38:23
to the bigger things that don't align with me, I feel so much more closer
38:27
to the things that do? Yeah, so I'm like, okay, I'm gonna
38:31
do this more now. I think that's huge, and it just shows your independence.
38:35
I remember when you took, um, your trip, you know, about a
38:39
year ago. Oh my God, that was like a pivotal point for me.
38:43
The trip was like, yeah, and, and, you know, it's crazy how
38:47
everything falls into place. And it was like, I remember my
38:51
partner at the time was like, I can't come with you. And I was like,
38:54
like, can I just go by myself? He's like,
38:57
yeah, okay, sure. Probably must have expecting me to say no, but I was
39:01
like, you know what, I'm just gonna take it because I felt so called.
39:04
And the mountains there, here, John, they do something to
39:08
you. Like, I honestly felt so uncertain for a while. I was like, what the
39:12
hell am I doing in my life? This was right before Ikigai. I was like,
39:15
what the hell am I doing in my life? Do I really want to be
39:18
a book writer? And it felt nice when someone like ask me, what are you
39:22
doing? And I'm like, yeah, I have a book writing business. I write books for
39:24
people. And they would be like, yeah, that's so cool, that's so amazing. I'm like,
39:27
yeah, that is pretty cool, I do like it. But then I'm still like,
39:31
there's this discomfort, you know? Like, it's like the furniture
39:35
inside me had been replaced or like changed up
39:39
when I went there. But that trip was so important because I all— it
39:43
was also me challenging myself to take risk and try new things. And do things
39:47
that I've never done before, you know, completely going with like unknown people and
39:52
getting to know them, their culture, and then the culture there.
39:56
It was just beautiful. Everything was amazing, you know.
39:59
And I never thought— I literally had told one of my friends that was going
40:03
there that, hey, I'm just gonna go in the room and I'm just gonna chill
40:06
and I'm just gonna write, you know, like don't tell me to go anywhere.
40:09
And he was like, yeah, yeah, sure. And I went every single— I
40:13
went to every single place, John. I did not miss a single place because I
40:17
was like, it was so recharging. And I was like, you know what, like,
40:19
if I've come here, I'm not going to stay back and be comfortable. I'm— I
40:23
want to challenge myself. I want to see what I could do, and I want
40:26
to see how— where that leads me. I think this has been the one
40:29
thing that has really like helped me because I remember when I started taking therapy,
40:34
I was just like, I want to know my truth and I
40:38
would allow myself to let it take me wherever it does.
40:41
And I think this was the most courageous decision I made back in 2022.
40:46
And since then, it has led me to where I am.
40:51
I think that's huge. And I love it when you can look back
40:54
and connect the dots. You know, there's that famous Steve Jobs quote
40:58
that we don't connect the dots looking forward, but we can look back
41:01
and connect the dots and see how how God and the universe was guiding
41:05
us, you know, point after point after point to get us to where we
41:09
are in our, our most highest self, you know. It's so
41:14
beautiful. I feel like you, you get to have so much grace for yourself
41:17
like that, right? And it's so much of the training you taught us as well
41:21
with the magic word and rewiring every single day, like, you know,
41:24
listening to Earl Nightingale and all that stuff. And I was like, okay,
41:29
Oh yeah, like now it— now see, that's also subconscious
41:33
work that we're doing. We're creating new neural pathways by listening to
41:37
such audios and such things that really like allow us or challenge
41:41
us or question us, basically. I feel like it's the questioning that we really need
41:45
to do that really like, you know, shakes up our subconscious a little bit,
41:48
and then something new comes out and you're like, oh, okay,
41:52
this is what it is. So what is something
41:56
about Zunaira Rafay that people
42:00
would be surprised to know about your own journey? Hmm.
42:04
Uh, my own journey. I think,
42:10
oh, that's such a difficult one because I feel like I'm a very transparent person,
42:14
but I've struggled a lot with saying
42:18
no. I think this would be one thing. That people don't know about me.
42:22
And I feel like the fact that I'm stepping
42:26
into this person who's not a very bubbly person—
42:30
not that I, I'm funny, but not a very, very bubbly
42:34
person like I used to be— I think that's also a little surprising for people
42:37
now. It's different. I say no more. I keep myself
42:41
to myself when I need to. I recharge when I need to. I go
42:45
out when I need to. I take priorities based on myself.
42:48
I prioritize myself, and that is something very new
42:52
for people around me. And now I feel like, I feel like my family is
42:55
really proud. I'm really, really blessed. Like, they've— you know
42:58
what, John? I feel like if you're really honest to yourself
43:02
and you're really aligning with who you're supposed to be, realities do bend in your
43:05
favor. God is great like that because he sees the
43:09
discomfort you're going through to be your higher self, and he
43:13
blesses you accordingly. God is great. God is the kindest,
43:16
honestly, because it's not easy.
43:20
I used to feel like, you know, like it's so easy for the person to
43:23
go like, be, do, have. Yeah, like, what is that? That's so easy
43:27
to say. But when I started to step into it, what it takes to be
43:31
so delusional, be so faithful, be so courageous,
43:34
be so kind, be so humble, be such a risk-taker,
43:39
I was like, oh my God. This is why God really
43:43
blesses the people who are elevating on a higher level or who are
43:47
elevating on a higher vibration, because they're going all in. They're like,
43:51
I don't care what my reality looks like, I'm gonna have
43:54
delusional faith in myself and have delusional faith in God that it's
43:58
gonna happen. I love that. I love,
44:02
I love that you said delusional because it does seem like that on the
44:05
outside looking in. But you know, it's really when
44:09
we get to the point that we realize that we are spiritual beings having
44:13
a human existence. Yes, you are. What we are— I love
44:17
it— what we are creating in our mind is the fact,
44:21
it's the reality. And then anything that we're actually
44:25
seeing in the physical is just catching up with that.
44:28
And I think that's really powerful, just like this conversation.
44:32
We We literally like spoke about this a year ago
44:36
and we did not know how it's going to happen. It happened
44:40
like in, in, unfolded in its own unique way, right?
44:43
Like who knew we'll be sitting here? And I'm so proud of you
44:46
as well for taking the risk you're taking the way you've taken.
44:50
Oh my God, your transformation, John, it's insane. Like,
44:53
oh my, I love it. I am so proud. I am so, so, so proud
44:57
of you. Thank you, thank you so much. I appreciate that. It's,
45:01
it's all, uh, it's all God just flowing through me and me just
45:05
surrendering, you know. I'm just have to constantly become
45:09
that person, um, that God is using,
45:12
you know. We are all vessels, and I truly believe that the more we
45:17
learn our purpose, flow in our purpose,
45:20
that we change our community, you know. I love how Deepak Chopra Deepak
45:24
Chopra talks about dharma and how dharma is so important,
45:28
not just because it's our own light, but how we are literally changing
45:32
the world around us as we're living our dharma. And I
45:36
think that's— that is huge. It's just like that.
45:40
Oh, which— oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah, delivery. Yeah, we have— go on, go on,
45:44
complete your thought. Well, I was just gonna say, well,
45:47
what do you think is one truth about transformation
45:52
or alignment that most people are missing? And tell
45:56
me the quote you're about to say because I do want to hear it.
45:59
So it's the same quote that I, uh, spoke about from my favorite
46:03
movie, that like our deepest fear is not that we're inadequate, deepest fear is that
46:06
we're powerful beyond measure. You know, when we liberate ourselves,
46:10
we liberate others. It's literally that. And I've first
46:14
like experienced it I feel like everyone's a mirror,
46:17
right? Either they're going to expose something or they're going to trigger something or they're
46:21
going to inspire something. All 3 things lead to us growing into
46:26
our highest self, and that's a connection to God. That's a portal to God.
46:29
So the truth with all of this transformation, I feel
46:33
like anything is possible and everything
46:38
is possible.
46:41
This is just, this is just something like,
46:44
it blows my mind because God's the miracle maker of the entire
46:48
freaking universe and he created
46:52
us. He created me. Oh my gosh, this feels like déjà vu.
46:57
I love this, I love this. So yeah, like,
47:02
he created us in such unique ways and we can create our own
47:05
reality and and now we're tapping into ourselves and creating new
47:09
realities, becoming, you know, who we're supposed
47:12
to be, our most aligned self. You can have anything and every
47:16
single thing. It's all possible for you. Like, people need
47:21
to stop holding themselves back. Just like you said, the prison cells,
47:24
the cage— try breaking it for once and see what
47:28
lies on the other side. It's so much worth
47:33
it. It's so worth it. It's— and it gets easy
47:37
because I feel like— I don't think we would ever want to go back now,
47:39
would you? No, 100% not. Never. Like,
47:42
yes, it wasn't easy. Really grateful for how far we've
47:47
come, but I would never want to go back to being that person, you know?
47:50
I, I love being regulated. I love being able to create an
47:54
impact through being who I am.
47:58
Right? I wouldn't wanna have it another way. And thank God
48:02
for this. Like, you know, so like I would just tell people,
48:05
try take 3 months, take 6 months,
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just like 6 months of, you know, like you're like, oh, okay, that would be
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too less. Even though you and I know a lot can happen in 6 months.
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So much can happen in 6 months. That's a lifetime. Exactly. But that's
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because we're operating on that level, so we understand that. Right? But so can
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anyone else. Right? Anyone else can— and anyone and
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everyone can do the work we're doing. It's the risk and the decisions
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they have to make, the choices they have to make. That's it.
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That's it. Absolutely. I think
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the, the quote of the entire podcast today is,
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anything is possible. Everything is possible. I love that.
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I think that is absolutely huge. I, I think that's
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amazing. Zunaira, how can people get in touch with you?
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What are your socials? How can they find you? Yay!
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So Instagram, I'm posting all the time. I love being a content creator.
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I post a lot of cringe stuff, but like, that's also a muscle
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I'm practicing, so bear with me. Uh, they can reach out to me on
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Instagram, and then through there we can like chat. I'm on LinkedIn as well.
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I've started TikTok, still coming around that,
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like not really greatly to it. But yeah,
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those are the places. Your, uh, your, uh, contacts in
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the show notes as well. Um, that would be so kind of you.
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Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, you know what stands
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out to me from this conversation is just how deep
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that subconscious identity shift really goes and how
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when we allow ourselves to go back to that
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childhood trauma, we get that emotional release in the moment.
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And, you know, we always talk about how things don't happen to us,
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they happen for us. And by going back to those traumas,
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we're taking ownership of that. Like, we get to decide that it
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happened for us, no matter what it was. And I think that that is the
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core to what real transformation looks like. It's not just thinking
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differently, but it's becoming different. Different at that core
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level. Thank you so much for being here today,
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Zunaira. I appreciate it. And keep doing the
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work that you are doing and helping people step into
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who they are truly meant to be. You are such a bright
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light, and I am so honored to know you. Thank you for being a part
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of this podcast today. Thank you, John. It was an absolute honor.
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I had so much fun. We're doing this live pretty soon.
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If we can do this, we can do that. Yeah, we're doing this live pretty
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soon. Absolutely. All right, see, thank you so much.
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Thank you. It was an honor. I had so much fun.
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You're amazing. Honestly, I am so grateful to you for everything
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