Latest / The You Project / #1926 D*ck Togs & Hand Warmers - Patrick Bonello
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I got a tenaman, So you project Patrick and tear
- 0:02Speaker 1: for here every two weeks. We'll tips here a lot
- 0:05Speaker 1: more than that. Patrick's here every two weeks, because I
- 0:07Speaker 1: think we'd burst if we had any more of him
- 0:10Speaker 1: than that. Of course, it's the U project, and let's start.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go the other way around. Let's start
- 0:18Speaker 1: with boy wander up there in Bland, the thriving metropolis
- 0:21Speaker 1: of Bland.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Hi, mate, how are you?
- 0:23Speaker 3: It was so cold yesterday that I was worried Fritz
- 0:27Speaker 3: was going to be frozen to a tree.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Oh, frozen Fritz. That sounds like some kind of streets product.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Oh man, I have, yeah, lickety split and a frozen Fritz.
- 0:40Speaker 3: It was so cold. It was so it's been so freezing,
- 0:43Speaker 3: and I had one of you know those wheat heat
- 0:47Speaker 3: packs you put in the microwave. So I do call
- 0:49Speaker 3: this morning when I go. So, I've got my hoodie
- 0:51Speaker 3: with the pocket that goes all the way through, because's
- 0:54Speaker 3: very important. You get a pocket that goes all the
- 0:56Speaker 3: way through, and then I can shove my hands in
- 0:58Speaker 3: there and it stays warm for about Oh look, if
- 1:01Speaker 3: I zap at it for four minutes, I reckon I
- 1:04Speaker 3: get about forty five minutes of heat out of it.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Wow, that's pretty good.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, can I throw down a challenge for you
- 1:12Speaker 1: to try something?
- 1:13Speaker 3: Okay?
- 1:13Speaker 2: Actually, personally, what's the I'm taking off? Mahuti?
- 1:17Speaker 1: Everyone, I must be getting serious to reveal the flannel
- 1:19Speaker 1: underneath for haughty. I'm not a bogain at all. That's
- 1:23Speaker 1: a treat for you too, but no one else. What's
- 1:26Speaker 1: the temperature there on average at the minute in the morning,
- 1:30Speaker 1: look at bit.
- 1:30Speaker 3: Varies between minus two and maybe plus two at the
- 1:35Speaker 3: moment in the mornings.
- 1:36Speaker 2: And how long do you walk for?
- 1:38Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I go to the gym first, so that's
- 1:40Speaker 3: the first port of call, so Jim first. Because we've
- 1:43Speaker 3: spoken about putting the beach towel on my windscreen so
- 1:45Speaker 3: it does an ice over, So I do that the
- 1:48Speaker 3: night before. So I normally take Fritzy out for about
- 1:52Speaker 3: forty five minutes to an hour, depends on who I
- 1:55Speaker 3: bump into on the way, because our mutual friend tif
- 2:00Speaker 3: Kim and Walter we bump into them a fair bit.
- 2:03Speaker 3: And she's a listener to the show. I'm going to
- 2:06Speaker 3: tell you a story about this later. I don't want
- 2:07Speaker 3: to interrupt the introduction, but it is pretty damn cold,
- 2:10Speaker 3: and I do go out for around about forty five
- 2:12Speaker 3: minutes to an hour.
- 2:14Speaker 1: You're the only bloke that I can say, how long
- 2:16Speaker 1: do you walk for? And that becomes a two minute
- 2:18Speaker 1: monologue like all you need to go is forty five minutes?
- 2:22Speaker 2: Answer? Na, fucking hell. I just went and grew a
- 2:31Speaker 2: beard and had a shave.
- 2:33Speaker 1: So here's my It's something I've been doing. It's going
- 2:37Speaker 1: to be much harder for you, because I mean cold
- 2:40Speaker 1: where I am is about four or five or six,
- 2:43Speaker 1: but where you are it's fucking sub zero. Try this, mate,
- 2:48Speaker 1: like three mornings a week if you want to get up,
- 2:53Speaker 1: go for a walk without Fritz in a singlet and
- 2:58Speaker 1: a pair of shorts in the freezing for ten minutes
- 3:02Speaker 1: and see.
- 3:02Speaker 2: How you go.
- 3:04Speaker 1: So instead of having to do an ice bath or
- 3:07Speaker 1: you know, cold plunge or whatever, try that I've been
- 3:11Speaker 1: doing it. It's you feel fucking great when you get back.
- 3:15Speaker 3: NOODI run. You know I have Reinard syndrome, right, jog
- 3:20Speaker 3: it out. My hands and feet go white. If anybody
- 3:27Speaker 3: listening to us knows what reinards condition or reinard syndrome is,
- 3:31Speaker 3: it means that you don't just have cold hands. The
- 3:34Speaker 3: blood rushes out of your fingertips. Look it up, Go
- 3:37Speaker 3: and do a Google search on and just type in
- 3:40Speaker 3: Reynard syndrome and the fingers go completely white and numb.
- 3:45Speaker 3: And that's me within the third thirty seconds.
- 3:49Speaker 2: So wear some gloves, but nothing else.
- 3:51Speaker 1: All I want is isody. I want some dick togs. No, no,
- 3:55Speaker 1: we want your junk covered. Nobody needs to see that,
- 3:57Speaker 1: although they need a fucking telescope. Dick togs gloves. Well
- 4:04Speaker 1: it's cold, I mean, and yeah, you don't want that
- 4:11Speaker 1: to do you. Good morning Tiff, Good morning tif here.
- 4:17Speaker 1: How why are you dressed like a corporate banana?
- 4:20Speaker 4: Because I'm a fancy I'm very fancy and.
- 4:24Speaker 1: You look like you're wearing a yellow suit or yellow
- 4:27Speaker 1: like yellow.
- 4:28Speaker 4: Double breasted jacket. It's the best, so good color.
- 4:33Speaker 2: You've been out networking this morning?
- 4:35Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 4:35Speaker 5: Just you know, work in the room, Harps, work in
- 4:38Speaker 5: the room, having some smash.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Davo tell me, tell me, and then Patrick can because
- 4:43Speaker 1: he's done a bit as well, because he told us
- 4:45Speaker 1: before we went live. What do you love and what
- 4:47Speaker 1: do you hate about networking? Or does depend depend on
- 4:51Speaker 1: the group.
- 4:52Speaker 4: Depends on the group very very much.
- 4:54Speaker 5: I love hanging out with people in group environments, kind
- 5:01Speaker 5: of supporting each other and learning from different types of
- 5:03Speaker 5: people and just interacting. I just love being in the
- 5:06Speaker 5: room with people, and I hate when it's awkward and
- 5:10Speaker 5: stilted and there's a bunch of enaughies and it's.
- 5:12Speaker 4: A bit forced. I hate that aspect, which.
- 5:14Speaker 5: Can you know, depending on what room you enter, there
- 5:17Speaker 5: can be some of that good.
- 5:19Speaker 1: So this is not incidental networking. These are groups that
- 5:22Speaker 1: are organized specifically to bring people together for that reason.
- 5:27Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this was My friend is a member of
- 5:30Speaker 5: this group. So I went along as a visit today.
- 5:31Speaker 5: They were holding a women's women in Business special events,
- 5:36Speaker 5: so it was all women's focus.
- 5:37Speaker 4: They had a stack of guests like.
- 5:40Speaker 5: Me come along and hang out with them, and it's
- 5:42Speaker 5: structured so there's chance for everyone to introduce themselves and
- 5:48Speaker 5: there's it's the purpose is to become referral partners for
- 5:52Speaker 5: each other in business.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Nice Patrick, you've done a little bit of that. Thoughts.
- 5:57Speaker 3: Oh, my thoughts the same as Tiff. It really depends
- 5:59Speaker 3: on the room. The last time I did a networking
- 6:02Speaker 3: function was early last year. And I met my new
- 6:05Speaker 3: accountant there. He was fantastic, really dynamic, and he helped
- 6:10Speaker 3: me through a big business transition moving to a company structure.
- 6:14Speaker 3: He was phenomenal and it's great. And you know, it
- 6:17Speaker 3: was just a local networking thing organized by our local Shire.
- 6:21Speaker 3: I know, you laugh at me when I say shy.
- 6:23Speaker 3: You make me think I'm a hobbit, But we have
- 6:26Speaker 3: a Shire Council. But they do do a lot of
- 6:29Speaker 3: They're quite proactive in terms of doing networking and so.
- 6:32Speaker 3: And I've also been involved with our local Chamber of
- 6:35Speaker 3: Commerce for many years as well. You know, do their
- 6:38Speaker 3: website for them, and they have regular functions, they have
- 6:41Speaker 3: dinner meetings every month. But I think, yeah, in general,
- 6:45Speaker 3: it really does come down to reading the room and
- 6:47Speaker 3: getting the right people in the right space. And I
- 6:49Speaker 3: mean it's no different than anything that I guess you've
- 6:52Speaker 3: done with any sort of interaction. You can go to
- 6:54Speaker 3: a party and it can die in the backside because
- 6:57Speaker 3: it's just not the right chemistry, whereas other times, you know,
- 7:01Speaker 3: you've got two men and a black dog and it's great,
- 7:04Speaker 3: it's the best not you've ever had. So you know,
- 7:06Speaker 3: it's just in the room.
- 7:07Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've never been to one. I should probably,
- 7:11Speaker 2: well maybe I should. I don't know, but yeah, I wouldn't.
- 7:13Speaker 3: I would.
- 7:14Speaker 1: I'd be curious to go stick my nose in and
- 7:16Speaker 1: see what happens and meet a few.
- 7:17Speaker 5: People yourself invited. I'm going to haul you along and
- 7:22Speaker 5: guess what. This one's halfway between where you live and
- 7:25Speaker 5: where I live, so I will meet you there. You
- 7:27Speaker 5: won't have to stumble too far from your abode.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Do I have to get my passport out? Is it
- 7:32Speaker 1: further than Elwood because I.
- 7:34Speaker 4: Don't go further now, it's half way to Wellwood?
- 7:36Speaker 1: Oh bright, right, Well that's really I could probably do that,
- 7:40Speaker 1: probably negotiate that Patrick.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Were you going to make fun of my nose again?
- 7:43Speaker 3: No, no, I just I mean you did mention about
- 7:46Speaker 3: taking it into the room with you. But that's great.
- 7:48Speaker 1: It usually gets there long before me. By the time
- 7:51Speaker 1: I get in there, three people are standing under it.
- 7:53Speaker 3: So you know, anyway, if you're outside, all the smokers
- 7:58Speaker 3: can huddle underneath you.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's raining, everyone can just fucking shelter under
- 8:04Speaker 1: my schnozz. Yeah, I'm okay with all that, don't mind
- 8:07Speaker 1: at all. What are we talking?
- 8:10Speaker 3: About today, technic technical, before we jump into this. I
- 8:14Speaker 3: had a fascinating conversation with my friend Kim yesterday.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Hey, can I just point out, you know you're not
- 8:19Speaker 2: in charge?
- 8:20Speaker 3: Right? I know?
- 8:21Speaker 1: But no, no, you can't say before we jump into
- 8:23Speaker 1: this because you're not in fucking charge.
- 8:26Speaker 3: How about we vote? How about we vote to votes?
- 8:28Speaker 1: No, no, it's a dictatorship. There's no fucking vote here.
- 8:35Speaker 1: I'm a megalamoniac. He's a megalomaniac. Maniacal podcast. Do you
- 8:39Speaker 1: get no fucking say he's going to tip?
- 8:44Speaker 2: What's fifty percent of zero?
- 8:46Speaker 3: Exactly? Come on, because you two are the people. Okay,
- 8:52Speaker 3: I reckon. There are two sorts of people in the world,
- 8:55Speaker 3: like the people who stub their toe cry and then
- 8:59Speaker 3: rock back and forward in the corner and the people
- 9:01Speaker 3: who pushed through it. Right. And so yesterday when I
- 9:04Speaker 3: bumped into my friend Kim and her dog Walter as
- 9:06Speaker 3: we were doing it early morning freezing walk, we got
- 9:09Speaker 3: talking about that sort of stuff and we started exchanging
- 9:13Speaker 3: pictures of our toes because I the last time I
- 9:16Speaker 3: was in Melbourne, I slipped off the bottom step and
- 9:20Speaker 3: flexed my toes and they ended up purple but I
- 9:23Speaker 3: pushed through it, right, And then she told me she
- 9:26Speaker 3: was lifting weights and was putting some new weights on.
- 9:29Speaker 3: And you know what's the little end of the weights
- 9:31Speaker 3: that hold the big weights on collar. She's dropped the
- 9:35Speaker 3: collar onto her toe and then not only has she
- 9:39Speaker 3: broken her toe, she went for a run afterwards. Right,
- 9:43Speaker 3: this is how balls this she is. So we got
- 9:45Speaker 3: talking about this and pushing through and I was fascinated
- 9:49Speaker 3: to think about because the first time I ever went skiing,
- 9:53Speaker 3: on day one, I've fallen over. I fractured my finger.
- 9:57Speaker 3: My ring finger was at ninety degree ease, and then
- 10:01Speaker 3: for the next week I'd spend fifteen minutes putting the
- 10:03Speaker 3: gloves on because there was no way I was going
- 10:05Speaker 3: to spoil a ski trip. I'd never done skiing before,
- 10:08Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, I'm not going to go to a doctor.
- 10:10Speaker 3: That's just silly, because you know, I can get through this.
- 10:13Speaker 3: So my finger was sitting out at ninety degrees and
- 10:16Speaker 3: it would take me all this time to put the
- 10:18Speaker 3: gloves on, but I wasn't going to spoil the whole day.
- 10:21Speaker 3: So it made me wonder, given your experiences, and I'm
- 10:24Speaker 3: sure Tiff, given your experiences in the ring. What have
- 10:27Speaker 3: you fought through that? Ordinarily most people wouldn't. Have you
- 10:32Speaker 3: ever had an injury while you've been training or while
- 10:35Speaker 3: you've been fighting me, or.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking like, get comfortable if you want me to
- 10:41Speaker 2: tell you about my injuries. So let's not even go
- 10:44Speaker 2: Let's not even go to me because my body's reasonably
- 10:48Speaker 2: fucked already. So let's go to tiff.
- 10:50Speaker 5: My first amateur novice title fight. So I'd had a
- 10:55Speaker 5: few corporate boxing challenges and then my first novice title
- 10:59Speaker 5: fight I fought with a back thing going on, and
- 11:04Speaker 5: then after the fight, I got diagnosed with fractured stress
- 11:08Speaker 5: fractures in my transverse process, which is a little nodule
- 11:12Speaker 5: on the side of.
- 11:13Speaker 4: On my lumbar spine.
- 11:16Speaker 5: Very painful, but you know when you get when you
- 11:19Speaker 5: step into the ring, adrenaline masks all of that, so
- 11:22Speaker 5: that disappears.
- 11:23Speaker 1: I've got one that is a good story, and that
- 11:26Speaker 1: is that is being mentally tough. But mine is about
- 11:29Speaker 1: being mentally stupid. So when I was young, I was obsessed,
- 11:33Speaker 1: as you remember, right.
- 11:34Speaker 2: And I've told their stories psypologies.
- 11:37Speaker 1: I used to run every day, Patrick, and I didn't
- 11:40Speaker 1: do it because I was disciplined. I did it because
- 11:42Speaker 1: I was obsessed. So I ran three hundred and sixty
- 11:45Speaker 1: five days of the year, every day of the year.
- 11:47Speaker 1: I did a thousand push ups every day of the year.
- 11:49Speaker 1: I did a thousand sit ups every day of the year.
- 11:51Speaker 1: I did like two hundred chin ups. Right, And it
- 11:53Speaker 1: wasn't because I was disciplined or had a lot of
- 11:57Speaker 1: self control.
- 11:58Speaker 2: It was because I was obsessed.
- 11:59Speaker 1: And when I did that, it made me look better
- 12:03Speaker 1: and feel better, and I was addicted to the look
- 12:06Speaker 1: and the feeling all this shit. Right, So anyway, and
- 12:09Speaker 1: I also used to play footy. I played footy. I
- 12:11Speaker 1: fucked up my ankle really badly. They didn't have moon
- 12:15Speaker 1: boots back then. They were not a thing. But if
- 12:18Speaker 1: they had, I'd be in a moonboot anyway. So it
- 12:21Speaker 1: was all taped up like a mummy crutches. The instructions
- 12:26Speaker 1: do not weight bear for two weeks, so don't put
- 12:29Speaker 1: your foot on the ground. Now, this is oh, no,
- 12:32Speaker 1: I run every day. It's like, well, no, you don't
- 12:34Speaker 1: run every day. You won't be running for maybe eight weeks.
- 12:37Speaker 1: I'm like, and I'm listening to him, going, that's not happening.
- 12:41Speaker 2: But anyway, So.
- 12:43Speaker 1: The quicksh version is, I go home. I meant to
- 12:46Speaker 1: not put my foot on the ground, not even weight
- 12:48Speaker 1: bear a little bit for two weeks, and then slowly
- 12:50Speaker 1: introduce weight bearing, and then probably in about four weeks
- 12:53Speaker 1: start to walk, and then over time walk, jog, jog,
- 12:55Speaker 1: walk whatever. So I went home and I I climbed
- 13:02Speaker 1: out of the window of my bedroom at about ten
- 13:03Speaker 1: o'clock at night because I hadn't been for a run,
- 13:07Speaker 1: and obviously left the crutches in my bedroom. Ron and
- 13:10Speaker 1: Mary don't know about this, so feel free to tell them.
- 13:13Speaker 1: And I just started walking in absolute agony. I walked
- 13:19Speaker 1: out from the backyard out to the front of my house,
- 13:22Speaker 1: and I just in my mind, I'm like, I'm going
- 13:24Speaker 1: to run, doesn't matter how painful it is.
- 13:28Speaker 2: And so I started running, and obviously it was excruciating
- 13:32Speaker 2: pain and I ran hobbled, ran hobbled for about.
- 13:38Speaker 1: I don't know, like two hundred meters and I I
- 13:42Speaker 1: was fifteen, I was an idiot, right, But I'm crying.
- 13:44Speaker 1: I'm because I'm an addict, like this is completely ridiculous, irrational, unhealthy.
- 13:51Speaker 1: Then I walk, I'm running in the middle of the
- 13:52Speaker 1: road because I live in the country, right, there's no
- 13:54Speaker 1: one around. So I walked to the side of the
- 13:56Speaker 1: road where even though it's the country, it's it's a town.
- 14:00Speaker 1: It's moey, so there's gutters and shit. So I put
- 14:04Speaker 1: my foot in the gutter. So it was my right foot,
- 14:06Speaker 1: and my right foot was what's called supernated, so leaning
- 14:10Speaker 1: on the outside so kind of turned on that angle turned.
- 14:13Speaker 1: But when I walked in the gutter, the pain was
- 14:16Speaker 1: reduced significantly, Like I didn't even know why then I
- 14:20Speaker 1: know why now anyway, I'm like, oh, so it went
- 14:23Speaker 1: from like ten out of ten pain to like five.
- 14:26Speaker 1: So I tried a bit of a jog and it
- 14:28Speaker 1: was quite painful, obviously, but I could just jog. So
- 14:32Speaker 1: I spent the next month sneaking out of my bedroom
- 14:35Speaker 1: at night and jogging in gutters around Latroe Valley like
- 14:40Speaker 1: a fucking weirdo. And my right ankle, which it was,
- 14:44Speaker 1: has still fucked so.
- 14:46Speaker 2: Good work me.
- 14:47Speaker 3: Yeah, normal people sneak out to me, to girlfriend, go
- 14:50Speaker 3: to Ao allowed to and maybe to punch someone up.
- 14:54Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm trying to think of what Tiff
- 14:55Speaker 3: might do. But really, to run on a broken foot,
- 15:00Speaker 3: that's awesome, mate, Yeah, go.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Meet, go meet.
- 15:03Speaker 1: There's no by the way, there's no pride in that.
- 15:05Speaker 1: That's the dumbest shit of all time.
- 15:07Speaker 3: Yeah. When I finally went to the doctor after a
- 15:09Speaker 3: week of having a finger stuck in the ninety degree
- 15:13Speaker 3: position which was fractured, which I didn't know at the time.
- 15:16Speaker 3: I remember the doctor, you know, it looked at me
- 15:18Speaker 3: like I was an idiot. And then at the end
- 15:20Speaker 3: of the consultation, I said, so, when it's healed, will
- 15:23Speaker 3: I be able to play the piano? And he said, yeah,
- 15:25Speaker 3: of course you will. I said, fantastic. I've never been
- 15:27Speaker 3: able to play the piano.
- 15:29Speaker 2: You're an idiot. Did you sit up last night writing that?
- 15:34Speaker 3: I did actually say that to him, He laughed. He
- 15:36Speaker 3: thought it was quite entertaining.
- 15:39Speaker 2: All right, talk to us about stuff.
- 15:41Speaker 1: Actually, I want to start with okay, can we start
- 15:44Speaker 1: with what's.
- 15:45Speaker 2: In a name? My business name sucks? Can we start there?
- 15:49Speaker 3: Well, look, it's funny. I was reading an article recently
- 15:53Speaker 3: about domain names going up in price, and I was thinking,
- 15:57Speaker 3: quite often when I talk to people, you've got Craig
- 15:59Speaker 3: Harper dot com. Att. Okay, so it's a good name.
- 16:03Speaker 3: It's easy to pronounce. My business name is Genesis FX. Like,
- 16:08Speaker 3: what a stupid name to have as a domain name.
- 16:11Speaker 3: How do you spell it? Is it e f f CT?
- 16:14Speaker 3: Is it letter F letter X? So it was. It
- 16:15Speaker 3: was good at the time, and it's not a Bible reference.
- 16:18Speaker 3: Can I just clarify. I'm a Star Trek fan, I'm
- 16:21Speaker 3: a nerd. And it was from the second Wrath of
- 16:23Speaker 3: Khan movie Star Trek, The Wrath of Khn and they
- 16:26Speaker 3: had a Genesis device. I'm merding out. I'm just going
- 16:29Speaker 3: to I'm going to stop now. But anyway, so, so
- 16:31Speaker 3: I come up with this name.
- 16:32Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, come back, everyone, come back. No, really, come
- 16:35Speaker 2: back to your phone now.
- 16:37Speaker 3: But I came up with the name before I before
- 16:40Speaker 3: I decided to, before the internet was around, so, you know,
- 16:43Speaker 3: because I knew you then. That was a long time ago.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Yeah, we met. We met each other just after the
- 16:52Speaker 2: wheel became a thing. And fire remember when they invented fire?
- 16:56Speaker 2: Howpened was that?
- 16:57Speaker 3: Yeah? We could actually cook out vegetables. Yeah, ah man,
- 17:02Speaker 3: but no, no, so got me thinking, and I just
- 17:04Speaker 3: thought some little trivia things about expensive typos. Right. So example,
- 17:10Speaker 3: in sixteen thirty one, right, an English printer accidentally left
- 17:14Speaker 3: out the word not in the seventh commandment, so ut
- 17:17Speaker 3: shalt not commit adultery became a free for all. Thou
- 17:22Speaker 3: shalt commit adultery? Right, So the poor blake was fined
- 17:26Speaker 3: by the baking Charles mind you ordered one thousand copies
- 17:29Speaker 3: destroyed and three thousand pounds and they revoked his Bible
- 17:34Speaker 3: printing license. So I guess it was the end of
- 17:36Speaker 3: his business. But another one NASA, Right, in nineteen sixty two,
- 17:41Speaker 3: NASA had a Mariner one mission to Venus, and it's
- 17:46Speaker 3: believed that someone writing the code put a comma in
- 17:49Speaker 3: the wrong spot and just after it launched they had
- 17:53Speaker 3: to destroy the satellite and it cost them eighty million
- 17:56Speaker 3: dollars in nineteen sixty two. Shit, a comma, Like a
- 18:01Speaker 3: comma in the code.
- 18:02Speaker 2: But I mean, can you explain to me?
- 18:05Speaker 1: Maybe Tiff understands what that means, but what does I
- 18:08Speaker 1: don't know what does that mean?
- 18:10Speaker 2: Like, so a comma in the code.
- 18:12Speaker 3: The language, okay, the programming language that was used for
- 18:15Speaker 3: the guidance system. Because the comera is in the wrong spot.
- 18:19Speaker 3: So it might have been you know, you have ever
- 18:21Speaker 3: watched you know that the rocket launches, they start off
- 18:23Speaker 3: going straight and then they kind of veer to the
- 18:25Speaker 3: side a little bit to try to get the escape
- 18:27Speaker 3: velocity happening. Well, evidently the common meant that it made
- 18:31Speaker 3: a maneuver too early, so instead of say, it's supposed
- 18:34Speaker 3: to have done it at a kilometer, it did it
- 18:36Speaker 3: at like one hundred meters something along those lines. But
- 18:38Speaker 3: if effectively, it meant they had to destroy this eighty
- 18:43Speaker 3: million dollars satellite that was supposed to be going to Venus.
- 18:46Speaker 3: It was the first satellite of the first mission ever
- 18:48Speaker 3: to Venus. So yeah, that was that could be.
- 18:51Speaker 1: The most expensive typo in the history of typo's.
- 18:54Speaker 2: Patrick.
- 18:54Speaker 3: It's pretty good, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, for sure, it happens.
- 18:59Speaker 3: Macy's did this promotion. That's the the I guess the supermarket.
- 19:05Speaker 3: Let's more than a Saon.
- 19:06Speaker 1: No, they're like a They're kind of our version of
- 19:08Speaker 1: Myers or yeah. Yeah, yeah, like a big department store.
- 19:12Speaker 3: Yeah. Well again, same thing. Someone's put in a diamond
- 19:15Speaker 3: necklace for the wrong price a typo and they had
- 19:18Speaker 3: to honor it. So in twenty thirteen, fifteen hundred dollars
- 19:22Speaker 3: diamond necklaces went for forty seven bucks and they all
- 19:27Speaker 3: got sold out.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, isn't that Oh god, yeah, well someone
- 19:34Speaker 1: someone's getting in trouble.
- 19:35Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. And the other one that I thought was
- 19:37Speaker 3: interesting was in twenty ten, Penguin Australia published a past
- 19:41Speaker 3: a Bible and someone in mistakingly instead of putting salt
- 19:46Speaker 3: and freshly ground pepper, they put salt and freshly ground
- 19:50Speaker 3: black people instead of black pepper. They put black people
- 19:55Speaker 3: black people black pepper, and so they had to it
- 19:58Speaker 3: was a twenty thousand dollar mistakes. So they had to
- 20:01Speaker 3: get rid of the pulp seven thousand copies of of
- 20:05Speaker 3: the past the Bible.
- 20:07Speaker 1: I think that would have been more than a twenty
- 20:09Speaker 1: thousand dollars mistake.
- 20:12Speaker 2: Like that is that is terrible?
- 20:14Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty bad? Huh yeah, go and look the other thing.
- 20:18Speaker 3: And then what got me thinking about this also is
- 20:20Speaker 3: because domain names. One of the worst domain names is
- 20:23Speaker 3: because when you've got a domain name, there's no gaps
- 20:26Speaker 3: and so the words run together, and sometimes people forget
- 20:29Speaker 3: that running the words together can make other words.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Can I just pause you for one sec. There's going
- 20:35Speaker 1: to be twenty percent of our listeners who are who
- 20:38Speaker 1: aren't thirty years old, who are going what's a domain name?
- 20:41Speaker 3: Oh really? Okay, so www dot craigharper dot net. That's
- 20:45Speaker 3: a domain name. Okay.
- 20:46Speaker 1: So it's like like what we non tech people might
- 20:50Speaker 1: call like a web.
- 20:51Speaker 3: Address, right web address? Yeah, exactly, the dub dub dub.
- 20:54Speaker 3: So in this instance, if you think of the word therapist,
- 20:59Speaker 3: the problem is when you put therapist into a domain name,
- 21:02Speaker 3: it can be the rapist, not therapy. So that's there's
- 21:07Speaker 3: there's some problems when you're thinking about registering a domain name.
- 21:10Speaker 3: Is join all the words together and see what it spells.
- 21:14Speaker 3: There's some classically funny examples and some tragically bad examples
- 21:18Speaker 3: of words that get run together. And you've got to
- 21:20Speaker 3: call one of my clients. I shouldn't say this, I guess,
- 21:23Speaker 3: because he's a client, but I've got to tell you anyway.
- 21:24Speaker 3: He's in the United States. So his name is Fred
- 21:28Speaker 3: Winn and a lot of Americans like to use their
- 21:31Speaker 3: middle initial and so when he was he's an author,
- 21:34Speaker 3: and he's actually a really interesting guy. He worked in
- 21:36Speaker 3: the prison system for years and years and years, and
- 21:39Speaker 3: he's been involved in the Black Lives Matter. Really lovely guy.
- 21:42Speaker 3: His name is Fred A. Win and I pointed out
- 21:45Speaker 3: to him that if you put that in a domain name,
- 21:47Speaker 3: it becomes freeda win, not read a wig, because there's
- 21:51Speaker 3: no full stops. And so when you went to Registeres Demain,
- 21:54Speaker 3: I said, you know that if we put your name
- 21:57Speaker 3: in as Freda a win, it's going to be freeda win.
- 22:00Speaker 3: But you know, he went with it because that's his name,
- 22:03Speaker 3: fred Awin.
- 22:04Speaker 2: But now I think I think Freda's got an eye
- 22:06Speaker 2: in it?
- 22:07Speaker 3: Is it advice to leaders Freda though?
- 22:09Speaker 1: But back back to your point about the rapist. I
- 22:12Speaker 1: had a friend. I met a guy who came into
- 22:14Speaker 1: one of the gyms I was working out. His name
- 22:16Speaker 1: was Norbert Vonzumhoff right, what German? Yeah, Norbert monhim half right,
- 22:22Speaker 1: Shout out to Normady if he's around. We used to
- 22:24Speaker 1: call him normal anyway. He'd only been out from Germany
- 22:26Speaker 1: for not long. He was a level ten gymnast. Moved
- 22:29Speaker 1: to Australia. Him and I started just working out together. Anyway,
- 22:33Speaker 1: One day we were out and we were walking along
- 22:36Speaker 1: and there was a physiotherapist right sign physio and he's like,
- 22:41Speaker 1: what is physio?
- 22:41Speaker 2: The rapist? So same thing?
- 22:44Speaker 3: What is?
- 22:45Speaker 2: He goes Craig, what is Physio the Rapist? And I'm
- 22:48Speaker 2: like what. He goes, Physio the Rapist? What is it?
- 22:51Speaker 1: And I'm like what And then he points to the sign.
- 22:55Speaker 1: I'll go, oh fuck, that's physiotherapist bro. And he's like, no,
- 23:00Speaker 1: do you O the Rapist? I'm like, no, that's not
- 23:01Speaker 1: a the just it's this. Yeah, I get it. But
- 23:06Speaker 1: so yeah, So getting your domain name and not accidentally
- 23:11Speaker 1: getting something you don't want as a challenge, right.
- 23:14Speaker 3: Some advice for you, So think carefully because you're stuck
- 23:17Speaker 3: with it for a long time.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Like one of the things that you do is build
- 23:21Speaker 1: websites and do you get domain names for people and stuff.
- 23:24Speaker 3: For yea, yeah, yeah, do all that sort of stuff.
- 23:26Speaker 3: So it's kind of like, I mean, it makes sense.
- 23:29Speaker 3: It's all those bits and pieces that all slot together.
- 23:32Speaker 3: So the first part is trying to get the right
- 23:33Speaker 3: domain name and really thinking about things that are spelt
- 23:37Speaker 3: and how people see them as being spelt as well.
- 23:40Speaker 3: You know, do you put the number one or do
- 23:43Speaker 3: you have one? So if it was Craig Harper number
- 23:47Speaker 3: one trainer, would you have the number one or would
- 23:49Speaker 3: you have So sometimes you've got to register more than
- 23:52Speaker 3: one domain name to make sure you get both. Does
- 23:54Speaker 3: that makes sense?
- 23:55Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I remember when.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I think I don't know MELI did all that,
- 24:00Speaker 1: but I think craigharba dot net. We've also got craigharba
- 24:03Speaker 1: dot org, dot dot net, AU dot net without the
- 24:08Speaker 1: au dot just in case, you know, other people use it.
- 24:12Speaker 3: It's not a bad idea. It's brand protection because you know,
- 24:15Speaker 3: one of the exciting things. I thought it was exciting,
- 24:17Speaker 3: but a lot of people were skeptical about it. So
- 24:19Speaker 3: the official domain registrar in Australia is called outer au
- 24:24Speaker 3: DA and it's a not for comforit organization that manages
- 24:27Speaker 3: all the domain names in Australia, so all the dubdub
- 24:29Speaker 3: dubs that have an AU extension. So a dot com
- 24:33Speaker 3: is American, dot UK is UK dot NZ as New
- 24:36Speaker 3: Zealand Australia's are AU. But what they did was one
- 24:40Speaker 3: of the problems with that was you you needed to
- 24:43Speaker 3: have an ABN or an acn C, needed to be
- 24:45Speaker 3: a registered business to register a dot com dot AU
- 24:49Speaker 3: and it left a lot of people, maybe hobbyists or
- 24:52Speaker 3: enthusiasts who don't have a company or a business structure.
- 24:56Speaker 3: So a few years ago they released what they called
- 24:58Speaker 3: AU Direct, so you could register tiff Cook dot au
- 25:05Speaker 3: and because it didn't have the dot com dot Au,
- 25:07Speaker 3: you could just register it. As long as you're an
- 25:08Speaker 3: Australian citizen and you can prove you're an Australian, then
- 25:11Speaker 3: you're entitled to have an AU direct domain name, which
- 25:14Speaker 3: is great because it meant that people, because I think
- 25:17Speaker 3: it instills a lot more confidence. When I'm shopping online
- 25:21Speaker 3: and I want an Australian company, I will I'm more
- 25:24Speaker 3: likely and this has been proven people are more likely
- 25:27Speaker 3: to be confident in an a dot com dot au
- 25:30Speaker 3: domain name than are just a dot com domain name.
- 25:34Speaker 3: Do you find that tip when you go shopping or
- 25:36Speaker 3: looking online that you look for the AU extension. I
- 25:39Speaker 3: know it's something that I certainly do.
- 25:41Speaker 4: Yeah, if i'm yeah, if I'm buying online, I do.
- 25:44Speaker 3: M because it means a that they're Australian business and
- 25:46Speaker 3: it's and then the hurdles are a little bit harder
- 25:48Speaker 3: to cross anyway. Anybody can register a dot com, but
- 25:52Speaker 3: you have to have an a b N or an ACN,
- 25:54Speaker 3: so you've got to be an Australian business to get
- 25:56Speaker 3: that dot com dot AU extension.
- 25:59Speaker 2: I remember, correct me if I'm wrong.
- 26:01Speaker 1: I don't know if this has changed, but there was
- 26:03Speaker 1: a real time, mate, where people would kind of try
- 26:05Speaker 1: to anticipate what might be big, and they'd register a
- 26:09Speaker 1: bunch of you know, web addresses or domain names. So
- 26:14Speaker 1: let's say, for example, you had a YouTube channel, Patrick
- 26:18Speaker 1: Bonello fucking Live and it started to boom, and like
- 26:22Speaker 1: you're sitting at four million followers, and I go, I
- 26:26Speaker 1: wonder if he's got a website, and I realized you
- 26:28Speaker 1: don't have a website, so I go, fuckety fuck. So
- 26:30Speaker 1: I register Patrick Bonello dot everything and then I've got
- 26:35Speaker 1: a monopoly on that. Then I then you go, hey mate,
- 26:38Speaker 1: I'm I'm actually Patrick Bonello.
- 26:41Speaker 2: I want that?
- 26:41Speaker 1: Can I buy it? And I go, sure, thirty grand?
- 26:44Speaker 1: So that was happening for a while, Wasn't it a lot?
- 26:46Speaker 3: It still does happen in the dot com space. That's
- 26:49Speaker 3: such a good question, because I'd looked to register my
- 26:53Speaker 3: family's surname. I'm talking when I knew you all that
- 26:56Speaker 3: time out and in America had registered it as a
- 27:01Speaker 3: dot com and he wanted two thousand dollars for it.
- 27:04Speaker 3: It's like, I don't want to pay two thousand dollars
- 27:06Speaker 3: for that. I don't know what it'd be like now
- 27:08Speaker 3: now that I'm super Yeah, But the thing is that's
- 27:14Speaker 3: so that's called cyber squatting, and you can if you
- 27:17Speaker 3: can find a dot com, anybody can buy one. And
- 27:20Speaker 3: that again comes down to why it's less likely in
- 27:24Speaker 3: Australia because you have to have the ABN. And I
- 27:27Speaker 3: had one of my this happened to one of my
- 27:28Speaker 3: clients where they bought a business from somebody, but the
- 27:32Speaker 3: person who registered the domain name of the business was
- 27:36Speaker 3: a marketing person and she relinquished the domain name and
- 27:40Speaker 3: then somebody snapped it up so their own domain name
- 27:43Speaker 3: they didn't have access to, and so we appealed that
- 27:46Speaker 3: to the official authority outer and they relinquished it to
- 27:49Speaker 3: them because the person who registered it had no claim
- 27:52Speaker 3: to that name. And that's where the protection is in Australia.
- 27:55Speaker 3: So someone registered create craigharper dot au, which is the
- 27:59Speaker 3: day Au direct extension, which Melissa may not have registered. Quick,
- 28:03Speaker 3: everybody have a look and see if it's there. So
- 28:06Speaker 3: if I went and registered it because I thought, oh
- 28:09Speaker 3: now harps hasn't got that one. I'm going to register
- 28:11Speaker 3: it and see if I can sell it to him. Well,
- 28:14Speaker 3: you have claim to be able to go back and say, well, no,
- 28:17Speaker 3: this is my name, it's my brand and you have
- 28:21Speaker 3: to give it to me. And if ow to the
- 28:22Speaker 3: Australian authority, demain authority, says he actually, you know what
- 28:26Speaker 3: it is, his name, we'll relinquish it and then you'll
- 28:29Speaker 3: be able to snap it up and go and get it.
- 28:32Speaker 2: Patrick.
- 28:32Speaker 1: You know how the kids use that term balling, Like
- 28:35Speaker 1: if people are doing great, they're balling.
- 28:37Speaker 2: Have you heard that? Or no, I'm too old, Tiff.
- 28:40Speaker 2: Have you heard that? No? Really?
- 28:41Speaker 1: Okay, So like if someone's a baller, they're fucking crushing it,
- 28:46Speaker 1: they're killing it.
- 28:47Speaker 3: Yep.
- 28:47Speaker 2: Okay, look at Patrick, he's looking it up.
- 28:49Speaker 3: I'm looking up your domain.
- 28:52Speaker 1: There's two people on my show other than me, and
- 28:54Speaker 1: they're both fucking typing on their computers.
- 28:56Speaker 2: Everyone.
- 28:56Speaker 4: I was just chicking roll with the punches.
- 28:58Speaker 5: Dot com is available for for a steal at twenty
- 29:02Speaker 5: four eighty eight usd ah.
- 29:07Speaker 1: You should definitely buy that. I might buy it and
- 29:09Speaker 1: give it to you for Christmas. I don't know how
- 29:12Speaker 1: i'd wrap it anyway. I was going to say something hilarious,
- 29:16Speaker 1: but you two unlike me when I support your rap,
- 29:19Speaker 1: like me when.
- 29:20Speaker 2: You're going off at a tangent.
- 29:22Speaker 1: I pretend I'm interested, but you too just fucking type
- 29:25Speaker 1: on your computers.
- 29:26Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, you don't understand the pressure I work under here.
- 29:30Speaker 3: Have freeball.
- 29:32Speaker 1: No, Hey, I'm an only child. That's your chances coming
- 29:36Speaker 1: gone track.
- 29:38Speaker 3: Hey, Craigo, just say you know. If you want, anybody
- 29:41Speaker 3: out there wants to register Craig's domain name, you can
- 29:44Speaker 3: register Craigharper dot Sydney dot Melbourne, dot NZ, dot co
- 29:48Speaker 3: dot NZ, dot org Au dot org, dot I dot online,
- 29:54Speaker 3: dot site dot tech. There is a stack, mate, You're screwed.
- 29:57Speaker 3: Everyone's going to have a Craigharper website by don't.
- 30:00Speaker 4: I'm so mad at you.
- 30:01Speaker 3: Patrick, to be so mad.
- 30:05Speaker 2: If she could find a way to fucking bland, she'd
- 30:10Speaker 2: poke you in your piece, Tiff.
- 30:13Speaker 3: Only Tiff comes and visits me in bla.
- 30:16Speaker 4: She's when it's minus five degrees. Give stuff. Yeah, good
- 30:19Speaker 4: points for summertime.
- 30:21Speaker 2: Patrick.
- 30:21Speaker 1: I feel like, seeing as you're a person who helps
- 30:24Speaker 1: people with websites and business, and you should.
- 30:29Speaker 2: You should like.
- 30:32Speaker 1: Give away a website or not a website, a domain. Like,
- 30:36Speaker 1: if somebody's thinking of starting their business, can they reach
- 30:40Speaker 1: out to you, and you, out of the generosity of
- 30:43Speaker 1: your heart, give them a free domain?
- 30:46Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I will. I'll give them a free domain. Yeah, seriously,
- 30:50Speaker 3: I will. Yeah, if you're thinking of setting up business,
- 30:52Speaker 3: we'll talk about what you're going to register, and I
- 30:54Speaker 3: will register it for you and give it to you.
- 30:55Speaker 3: That's two years. If it's a dot com today year,
- 30:57Speaker 3: you can register for two years and I'll give it to.
- 30:59Speaker 1: Just make make sure you go with the one that
- 31:01Speaker 1: Tiff that just said that's twenty twenty.
- 31:03Speaker 2: Four grand, go with that one.
- 31:05Speaker 1: I think there might be an asterisk next to this offer.
- 31:09Speaker 1: But what if it's like Patrick, what if there's like
- 31:11Speaker 1: five people who contact you?
- 31:12Speaker 2: What are you just going to turn away for all?
- 31:15Speaker 3: Right, I'll do five. That's it. The ceiling is okay,
- 31:18Speaker 3: I can't. I love how we spending my money. Tip.
- 31:21Speaker 2: What if there's a hundred.
- 31:24Speaker 5: Give away a service he's asking you to pay for
- 31:27Speaker 5: a sent it cost you money?
- 31:30Speaker 3: Yeah, that is exactly what I'm doing LS the challenge there,
- 31:33Speaker 3: you get it. Five.
- 31:34Speaker 2: I'm all about my audience.
- 31:37Speaker 3: I will give away five domain names. I'm rising to
- 31:40Speaker 3: the challenge.
- 31:40Speaker 2: There you go, five domain names.
- 31:43Speaker 1: And so all right, and how do people contact you
- 31:46Speaker 1: if they want one of those domain Now?
- 31:49Speaker 2: Already it sounds very much like a setup. This wasn't planned.
- 31:55Speaker 2: This is not a setup, but it sounds like it.
- 31:58Speaker 2: So how do people reach out?
- 32:00Speaker 3: Also, we're talking you, Patrick is broke.
- 32:05Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the worst podcast of all time because
- 32:08Speaker 1: we're all fucking talking over each other. I apologize listeners.
- 32:12Speaker 1: I'm probably the worst offender. Can people actually, at no
- 32:16Speaker 1: extra cost talk.
- 32:17Speaker 2: To you on the phone?
- 32:18Speaker 3: Yeah? Of course I love talking to people, haven't. It's
- 32:21Speaker 3: get him any shut ups the problem?
- 32:25Speaker 2: All right? So all right just repeat? Okay, So how
- 32:29Speaker 2: do they reach out to you? Do they phone you?
- 32:31Speaker 2: Do they email you? Do they drive to your house?
- 32:35Speaker 3: They can flat Oh, they can command of coffee. Well,
- 32:36Speaker 3: they got to pay for the coffee, though, if you
- 32:39Speaker 3: want to come to the land, you're gonna buy me
- 32:40Speaker 3: coffee at the very least, I reckon. But no website websites, noow,
- 32:44Speaker 3: dot com dot au. You've got all my contact details.
- 32:47Speaker 3: You can even come and pat Fritz and we'll go
- 32:49Speaker 3: for a walk. With Fritz that would be nice.
- 32:53Speaker 1: And Patrick, if you get up there at three am,
- 32:55Speaker 1: Patrick will be in his dick togs and his gloves.
- 32:58Speaker 1: And because who's doing a ten minute cold walk every day?
- 33:02Speaker 3: Do you reckon web?
- 33:04Speaker 2: Chance? Tip puts up a hand like she's at school.
- 33:08Speaker 4: A good question that the listeners are dying to know.
- 33:10Speaker 4: The answerity.
- 33:12Speaker 5: Is the starting price range for a basic website by you?
- 33:16Speaker 4: Patrick?
- 33:17Speaker 5: Oh?
- 33:17Speaker 3: Okay, it's actually a really good question. If you were
- 33:20Speaker 3: doing a really basic website. I think you're probably looking
- 33:22Speaker 3: at about say twelve hundred to fifteen hundred dollars for
- 33:26Speaker 3: a basic site, and that includes hosting for twelve months.
- 33:29Speaker 3: That's a good question. Is the starting price I guess
- 33:32Speaker 3: is what you'd be looking at, And it really depends
- 33:34Speaker 3: because it's how big is a piece of string. But
- 33:36Speaker 3: one of the things I've always thought about, and this
- 33:38Speaker 3: is another piece of advice, if you are looking for
- 33:40Speaker 3: a website and you're speaking to somebody, not just me,
- 33:43Speaker 3: but if you're speaking to someone, make sure you reachister
- 33:46Speaker 3: the domain name in your business name, make sure that
- 33:48Speaker 3: you have control over the website and basic instructions on
- 33:52Speaker 3: how to update it. Because the thing is one of
- 33:54Speaker 3: the catches that sometimes happens with websites is someone will
- 33:58Speaker 3: design it and then you've got to go back to
- 34:00Speaker 3: them for every single change, and every time they change it,
- 34:03Speaker 3: they charge you. So I've take the fish in an approach,
- 34:06Speaker 3: you know, give them a fishing ride and teach them
- 34:08Speaker 3: how to fish. And that way people can make the
- 34:10Speaker 3: changes and all that's themselves. So you know, if you've
- 34:12Speaker 3: got a ten page or a five page or a
- 34:14Speaker 3: one page site, but you want to add more content
- 34:16Speaker 3: and do it yourself, then you should be able to
- 34:18Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That's do you update your
- 34:21Speaker 3: own site? Don't you? Tif?
- 34:22Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I was just lat thing because I
- 34:24Speaker 4: was like, is that a trick?
- 34:25Speaker 3: Now? Is that?
- 34:25Speaker 5: So they get in the back end ruin everything and
- 34:28Speaker 5: then you actually make more to fix the Nah? No,
- 34:33Speaker 5: we do.
- 34:34Speaker 2: We do.
- 34:34Speaker 3: We back up every day. So we always say to
- 34:36Speaker 3: people if your balls up your website, if you break it,
- 34:38Speaker 3: we'll just roll it back to the day before.
- 34:41Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens, you need your back end addressed, just
- 34:45Speaker 1: contact Patrick.
- 34:47Speaker 2: All right, So is there any I mean that's the
- 34:49Speaker 2: take time, isn't it.
- 34:50Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 34:51Speaker 2: So is there any chance we could do some tech tech,
- 34:56Speaker 2: some tech Yeah, well any chance.
- 35:00Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to fucking throw a spanner
- 35:02Speaker 1: in your sales pitch. You're overt shameless sales pitch that
- 35:06Speaker 1: you're clearly ran tip before the show said ah, hey
- 35:09Speaker 1: could you ask this but make it sound like we
- 35:13Speaker 1: haven't organized it. That was shameless. Tell us some tech news.
- 35:18Speaker 2: Earn your money, will you?
- 35:19Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to make some money now to pay
- 35:23Speaker 3: for those bloody domain names I've just flogged off. Hey
- 35:26Speaker 3: I'm Tesla owners. Okay, there's a lot of Tesla news
- 35:28Speaker 3: out at the moment because there's a group in Australia
- 35:31Speaker 3: that are looking at doing a class action against Tesla
- 35:35Speaker 3: because there's suggestions that sometimes they will break, So Tesla
- 35:41Speaker 3: owners are looking for some competition. They're talking about potentially
- 35:45Speaker 3: hazardous situation if the car suddenly breaks and you didn't
- 35:49Speaker 3: hit the brake.
- 35:49Speaker 2: So ah, you're talking about br A K E.
- 35:53Speaker 1: And I were thinking break occasionally breaks.
- 36:00Speaker 3: And some breaking.
- 36:01Speaker 2: Sorry gall listen to what I said.
- 36:03Speaker 1: I thought you were saying break, Yeah, as in the
- 36:09Speaker 1: car breaks.
- 36:10Speaker 3: Oh sorry, it breaks and breaks down? Yes, breaking, No,
- 36:14Speaker 3: we're talking about.
- 36:15Speaker 2: You mean it like it applies. The breaks randomly.
- 36:19Speaker 3: Right during autopilot mode.
- 36:21Speaker 2: Mike, I'm thinking this is not a big story.
- 36:23Speaker 3: All cars fucking break when you're in cruise control autopilot mode.
- 36:27Speaker 3: The car can rapidly decelerate for no reason. This is
- 36:32Speaker 3: allegations that are floating around, and they're trying to get
- 36:34Speaker 3: a class action. So it's happening at the moment. Tesler
- 36:37Speaker 3: owners are being asked to sign to this class action
- 36:40Speaker 3: and they're looking to take it to the federal court
- 36:42Speaker 3: later this year. But evidently thousands of Tesla owners are
- 36:46Speaker 3: into this. And the interesting thing is that just this
- 36:48Speaker 3: week in Austin, Texas, the first robotaxis hit the road.
- 36:53Speaker 3: I think about eight or twenty, sorry, between ten and
- 36:56Speaker 3: twenty robotaxis. So robotaxis, we have no driver. You get
- 37:01Speaker 3: in the cab, you sit in the back, you tell
- 37:04Speaker 3: them the destination or you verbally say it, I guess,
- 37:07Speaker 3: and then you press a button to start and the
- 37:09Speaker 3: taxi takes off. Now they've got real drivers sitting on
- 37:12Speaker 3: the right hand side, so the passeng the driver's seats empty,
- 37:16Speaker 3: and they have monitoring drivers for safety. At the moment,
- 37:19Speaker 3: I don't know what they're going to do, just scream
- 37:21Speaker 3: more as they ram into something. But I've been watching
- 37:24Speaker 3: some because I have watching some YouTube videos of people
- 37:27Speaker 3: getting into taxis and then drive it around. But evidently
- 37:31Speaker 3: there's been concerns because they're driving erradically. There was an
- 37:35Speaker 3: instance where there was some police parked on the side
- 37:37Speaker 3: of the road and the car suddenly breaked. There was
- 37:40Speaker 3: another instance where a car turned and went into the
- 37:42Speaker 3: wrong lane. I don't know how comfortable you guys would
- 37:45Speaker 3: be getting into a robotaxi with no one behind the wheel,
- 37:49Speaker 3: would you?
- 37:50Speaker 1: I definitely would. I don't know why I'm excited to. Yeah,
- 37:55Speaker 1: I'd love that shit ah once. I mean, if there
- 37:59Speaker 1: was one in how Hampton and it would take me
- 38:01Speaker 1: into the city drop me off for a speaking gig,
- 38:03Speaker 1: I'd fucking jump in in five minutes.
- 38:06Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of uber?
- 38:10Speaker 2: I don't want to. I'd rather sit in the car
- 38:11Speaker 2: with no one just snob.
- 38:16Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm about to.
- 38:20Speaker 2: I want some quiet time before I'm with all the humans.
- 38:24Speaker 2: I don't want to talk to old mate.
- 38:26Speaker 1: I mean, I will talk to old mate if he
- 38:28Speaker 1: or she is there. But yeah, but no, would you not?
- 38:32Speaker 1: Tif would you not get in a driverless car?
- 38:35Speaker 5: Not? After hearing what is going on with Tesla.
- 38:38Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm a bit dubious. It's a it's
- 38:41Speaker 4: a bit scary.
- 38:43Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I would.
- 38:46Speaker 1: But also with the advent of yeah, autonomous cars or
- 38:51Speaker 1: whatever driverless cars down the track, when they're proven to
- 38:54Speaker 1: be safer than driver cars, I'd gladly sit in the
- 38:59Speaker 1: car and let it take Ron and Mary while I
- 39:01Speaker 1: do some work in the back seat, maybe watch a
- 39:03Speaker 1: rom com.
- 39:04Speaker 2: I don't know, fucking have a snooze.
- 39:07Speaker 3: There's a lot to be said though, in all honesty,
- 39:09Speaker 3: if you had all the vehicles on the road as autonomous,
- 39:12Speaker 3: we would probably reduce traffic by so much. Would think
- 39:16Speaker 3: about why people slow, you know, there's so many studies
- 39:19Speaker 3: into the patterns of people when they're driving. You know,
- 39:23Speaker 3: for example, if there's something on the side of the road,
- 39:26Speaker 3: anyone rubbernecks and they slow down to check out, Well,
- 39:29Speaker 3: that wouldn't happen in a ROBOTAXI. So, I know we've
- 39:34Speaker 3: spoken about this on the show. But you know in
- 39:36Speaker 3: the tunnel underneath in Melbourne they have the Domain Tunnel,
- 39:41Speaker 3: right they have. Have you seen those green bands of
- 39:44Speaker 3: light that are projected on the side of the wall.
- 39:48Speaker 1: I have not because I don't go under the tunnel,
- 39:50Speaker 1: but I believe you.
- 39:53Speaker 3: So this was this is a really interesting project. What
- 39:57Speaker 3: they did was they looked at the flow of traffic
- 39:59Speaker 3: and because people are going through a tunnel, there's no
- 40:02Speaker 3: horizon as such, or it's very difficult to gauge when
- 40:05Speaker 3: you're going up and down. And what they found was
- 40:07Speaker 3: as people were going up, their speed started to drop.
- 40:12Speaker 3: And what was happening is there was a slow down
- 40:14Speaker 3: in traffic. So they came up with this idea of
- 40:17Speaker 3: having these moving green bands that are projected onto the wall,
- 40:21Speaker 3: and they found that people subconsciously keep up with the bands,
- 40:26Speaker 3: and the bands are just automatically to the traffic flow.
- 40:28Speaker 3: So if there's a lot of traffic but they can
- 40:30Speaker 3: see a pattern, they will speed up a little bit
- 40:33Speaker 3: to be safe. But it means people will actually speed
- 40:37Speaker 3: speed up, not speed up, sorry, not speed, but they
- 40:39Speaker 3: will increase their speed to match the bands or the movement.
- 40:42Speaker 3: And it's been designed in such a way that it's
- 40:45Speaker 3: for the optimum flow of traffic. So the generated light
- 40:49Speaker 3: on the side of the wall will adjust based on
- 40:52Speaker 3: the amount of traffic flow to make it d make
- 40:55Speaker 3: people drive more efficiently.
- 40:57Speaker 2: I wonder if, well, that's fascinating, is and that's very
- 41:01Speaker 2: interesting science. I wonder who figured that out? So thank
- 41:03Speaker 2: you for telling me that. That is fucking fascinating.
- 41:06Speaker 1: But I wonder if so what they're doing is manipulating
- 41:10Speaker 1: people without telling people they're manipulating them. Great, I wonder ethically.
- 41:15Speaker 2: Etceter like. I don't give a fuck. I think it's clever,
- 41:17Speaker 2: but I just wonder if some people are going to go.
- 41:19Speaker 1: Oh, nobody consented or nobody consulted us, and you're manipulating
- 41:24Speaker 1: my driving or my mind with these things that you
- 41:27Speaker 1: didn't ask me if like, I wonder that. But yeah,
- 41:29Speaker 1: that's fascinating. The way that our environment can control our
- 41:34Speaker 1: thinking and our behavior is crazy, and it.
- 41:37Speaker 3: Does make a lot of sense. When you think about
- 41:39Speaker 3: being in a tunnel, you do lose all perspective. This
- 41:43Speaker 3: is slightly similar when you paraglide. I've done a little
- 41:47Speaker 3: bit of paragliding when and this is going to sound
- 41:50Speaker 3: so strange, but when you're at a certain height and
- 41:52Speaker 3: you're paragliding, you don't know if you're going up or
- 41:54Speaker 3: down because there's no term of reference. And so when
- 41:58Speaker 3: you fly, you have a device. It's called a variometer,
- 42:01Speaker 3: and it gives you these audible signals. So it'll increase
- 42:04Speaker 3: in pitch if you're going up, decrease in pitch if
- 42:07Speaker 3: you're going down. Because when you're flying and you're in
- 42:09Speaker 3: the sky, you've got no term of reference. You don't
- 42:12Speaker 3: have trees, you can't see the trees, you can't see
- 42:15Speaker 3: hills and things because you're so high. So really our
- 42:18Speaker 3: brain is fascinating, but also it can play tricks on
- 42:21Speaker 3: us as well. And you'd think going up or down
- 42:24Speaker 3: would be such an easy thing to know. And hence
- 42:26Speaker 3: in the tunnel, going up an incline without any term
- 42:30Speaker 3: of reference is actually slowing the traffic down. I love
- 42:33Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. It's so interesting.
- 42:35Speaker 1: Yeah, because you don't really I guess, when you're in space,
- 42:38Speaker 1: like you're in open space and there's no ground and
- 42:41Speaker 1: there's no walls or no proximal ground or walls, you
- 42:45Speaker 1: lose kind of context. You know, there's like, oh, yeah,
- 42:50Speaker 1: can I just be clear?
- 42:51Speaker 2: I think I know.
- 42:52Speaker 1: A paraglide is like a parachute, but it's motorized or no.
- 42:56Speaker 3: No, a paragly it looks like a parachute, but it's
- 42:59Speaker 3: much it's just a big wing, so we call them
- 43:03Speaker 3: a big giant parachute, and it has a lot of
- 43:07Speaker 3: control lines coming down onto it and break lines, and
- 43:10Speaker 3: it's the biggest surface area than a parachute. So the
- 43:13Speaker 3: idea is that you can generate lift if you hit
- 43:15Speaker 3: a thermal or if you've got an updraft. So if
- 43:18Speaker 3: you're flying inland, then you thermal. So often you'll see
- 43:22Speaker 3: eagles taking advantage of a thermal. So it's a sunny
- 43:25Speaker 3: day and you'll see an eagle just adjusting its wings
- 43:28Speaker 3: and going up, spiraling up because they've hit a thermal updraft.
- 43:32Speaker 3: So the heat can cause what they call an updraft
- 43:35Speaker 3: of air and means that a bird's birds are great
- 43:38Speaker 3: at this. They take advantage of it. They don't have
- 43:40Speaker 3: to flap their wings, they just go up the updraft.
- 43:42Speaker 3: And you can do that in a paraglider, whereas on
- 43:44Speaker 3: the coast you use what they call, you know, the
- 43:47Speaker 3: onshore breeze. Hitting a cliff will cause an updraft of
- 43:51Speaker 3: wind and then you can fly along the edge the
- 43:53Speaker 3: ridge of a cliff and get lift from that. So
- 43:57Speaker 3: you basically can ride fly up and down the coast
- 44:00Speaker 3: without descending and you get a good old flight out
- 44:02Speaker 3: of it.
- 44:03Speaker 2: You're much braver than I thought, because there's fucking no
- 44:08Speaker 2: chance I would do that. Really, I am no. Do
- 44:11Speaker 2: I look like a bird? Have you seen any wings
- 44:13Speaker 2: on me? As if I'm doing that? That's like, oh,
- 44:17Speaker 2: zero chance, Tiff? Would you do that?
- 44:20Speaker 3: I think?
- 44:20Speaker 2: Would you jump off a fucking cliff with that over
- 44:24Speaker 2: your head?
- 44:25Speaker 5: I bet more people die in road accidents than they
- 44:27Speaker 5: do Paragliardi And you're you'll get in a driverless car,
- 44:31Speaker 5: but not in the sky.
- 44:33Speaker 1: I'll also get on a motorbike that goes north to
- 44:35Speaker 1: one hundred and two seconds and have the best time ever.
- 44:38Speaker 2: But I don't know. Hang on, hang on, hang on,
- 44:43Speaker 2: why do you Why would you do it? Tiff?
- 44:46Speaker 4: I think I'd love the feeling of that.
- 44:48Speaker 5: But then again, when you were talking about that perception
- 44:52Speaker 5: under the under the tunnel, I was thinking of it's
- 44:55Speaker 5: the same in a helicopter, and that ship was terrifying
- 44:58Speaker 5: to adjust to.
- 44:59Speaker 4: I think I'm not sure. Have to try it and
- 45:03Speaker 4: see if it.
- 45:04Speaker 2: If you were standing under me while I was paraguiding
- 45:07Speaker 2: and be like, oh what's that? Oh that's W that's
- 45:10Speaker 2: just W coming from jumbo that's just.
- 45:15Speaker 3: Can I just say, with all respect to both of you,
- 45:18Speaker 3: I have more chance of jumping off a cliff with
- 45:20Speaker 3: a piece of fabric over me than stepping in the
- 45:23Speaker 3: ring and having someone bash the shit out of me
- 45:26Speaker 3: or get on the back of a bike with you again.
- 45:28Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm talking about fear non statistics like you're
- 45:33Speaker 1: being rational.
- 45:35Speaker 3: No, No, I'm talking about being shit scared on the
- 45:37Speaker 3: back of the bike with you threading your way in
- 45:39Speaker 3: around traffic and also getting into a boxing ring. That's scared.
- 45:42Speaker 3: That's scared of shit out of me? Troll though, Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- 45:47Speaker 1: Can I just ask statistically how many times have I died?
- 45:51Speaker 2: I'm going to go zero. It's a very fucking safe bet.
- 45:55Speaker 3: But it's safe jumping off with a piece of fabric
- 45:58Speaker 3: that it is getting on your driving through traffic.
- 46:02Speaker 1: I don't think you have any evidence to support that
- 46:05Speaker 1: claim because my deaths are zero. Number of deaths in paragliding, Patrick,
- 46:12Speaker 1: give us another story, talk about something different other than
- 46:16Speaker 1: Tesla's and fucking me weiing while I'm on a parachute.
- 46:20Speaker 2: If you could just go somewhere else.
- 46:22Speaker 3: Okay, Well, can I do one more electric car story?
- 46:25Speaker 3: Because I'm excited about it. Yeah, of course, Huiwei. Huiwei
- 46:29Speaker 3: the telephone Chinese telephone company aims to have developed a battery,
- 46:36Speaker 3: a solid state battery with a range of three thousand kilometers.
- 46:41Speaker 2: Yeah, and doesn't it charge in five minutes or something?
- 46:45Speaker 3: Yes?
- 46:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that.
- 46:47Speaker 1: I thought, Oh, this is Patrick's going to get a
- 46:49Speaker 1: fucking hard on when he reads this. You won't be
- 46:52Speaker 1: able to focus now. So did you read that and
- 46:57Speaker 1: you just couldn't concentrate.
- 46:58Speaker 2: For the morning?
- 46:59Speaker 3: I was pretty yes, So can you just explain?
- 47:04Speaker 1: Maybe you don't know, I definitely don't know. Did you
- 47:07Speaker 1: say a solid state battery? What does that mean?
- 47:11Speaker 3: Look? To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what they're
- 47:14Speaker 3: doing with theirs, because Mercedes has been doing a similar
- 47:17Speaker 3: experiment and they have what they're calling a solid state battery.
- 47:21Speaker 3: So there's something about look at the because we're using
- 47:24Speaker 3: lithium ion batteries at the moment. Okay, that's the lithium ion,
- 47:29Speaker 3: but a solid stop. I should probably feel like I
- 47:31Speaker 3: should know more about this.
- 47:32Speaker 2: Than can you?
- 47:33Speaker 3: Can you solid.
- 47:34Speaker 1: Go into chatters and go what is a solid state battery?
- 47:37Speaker 1: While Patrick and I keep talking? But what about Patrick,
- 47:41Speaker 1: what about the practical, Like how amazing would it be
- 47:45Speaker 1: that you could charge that in five minutes, which is
- 47:48Speaker 1: analogous to putting petrol in your car in five minutes
- 47:51Speaker 1: and then drive for I mean even if you do
- 47:54Speaker 1: five hundred kilometers a week, that's six weeks of driving
- 47:57Speaker 1: on a five minute charge.
- 47:59Speaker 3: It's mind blowing, isn't it.
- 48:00Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 48:01Speaker 3: I don't know what sort of infrastructure you'd need, or
- 48:03Speaker 3: whether you could charge at existing charging stations. That's the
- 48:06Speaker 3: other question is whether you'd have to update all of
- 48:09Speaker 3: the infrastructure. But yeah, such a game changer, I mean,
- 48:13Speaker 3: particularly in Australia. And one of the big things here
- 48:16Speaker 3: in Australia is that it is expensive to buy into
- 48:19Speaker 3: an electric car and if you want more range, if
- 48:22Speaker 3: you live out where I live and you're doing longer trips,
- 48:26Speaker 3: then the range anxiety has been the biggest hurdled the
- 48:31Speaker 3: uptake of electric cars. Price is also problematic, and I
- 48:34Speaker 3: think BYD we talked about this recently. Are about to
- 48:38Speaker 3: release a kind of a budget car price tag that
- 48:42Speaker 3: they're selling them for in China. Is it around about
- 48:44Speaker 3: the equivalent of twelve thousand Australian dollars? Is not selling
- 48:49Speaker 3: them for even if they land here in Australia, with
- 48:52Speaker 3: imports and all that sort of stuff, you could be
- 48:54Speaker 3: looking at a sub twenty thousand dollars electric car.
- 48:58Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible toif what do you got for us?
- 49:01Speaker 5: Traditional lithium ion battery is liquid or gel electrolyte, flammable,
- 49:06Speaker 5: anti aging prone, and not super energy dense. Solid state
- 49:09Speaker 5: batteries are solid electrolyte, often ceramic glass polymer based, more stable,
- 49:14Speaker 5: less flammable, and higher energy density.
- 49:17Speaker 3: Wow.
- 49:19Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good.
- 49:20Speaker 1: I wonder well, I think also Patrick, like you were
- 49:24Speaker 1: kind of wondering, which I agree, how much like would
- 49:30Speaker 1: if that, if that can draw and contain, for one
- 49:35Speaker 1: of the better descriptions, so much energy so quickly, I
- 49:39Speaker 1: wonder what, yeah, what that would need to plug into.
- 49:42Speaker 1: That's not you're not going to plug that into your
- 49:44Speaker 1: two forty vault socket in the garage.
- 49:46Speaker 2: AA.
- 49:47Speaker 3: You might have drived to Mouey to the power station there.
- 49:50Speaker 1: You might have to plug in, plug into one of
- 49:53Speaker 1: those great big towers at the SEC.
- 49:56Speaker 3: But that's that's said. Though that's optimum charging, you still
- 50:00Speaker 3: should be able to trickle charge it, so you still
- 50:02Speaker 3: might do an overnight charge. On a conventional charging system,
- 50:06Speaker 3: it would take longer, but if you're getting that three
- 50:08Speaker 3: thousand kilometer range, it wouldn't matter so much because you
- 50:11Speaker 3: just do it overnight.
- 50:13Speaker 1: Now, as we walk out the door, let's have one
- 50:15Speaker 1: more conversation about cars, because let's not start a new topic. Well,
- 50:20Speaker 1: do electric cars make people more car sick?
- 50:24Speaker 3: Yeah? This is an interesting little story that I saw
- 50:27Speaker 3: and it makes sense. I am a person who does
- 50:30Speaker 3: and had as a child, got terribly, terribly sick when
- 50:36Speaker 3: I was in a car, and for some reason, the
- 50:39Speaker 3: old what was the big boxy hold and I'm trying
- 50:43Speaker 3: to think friends of ours had an.
- 50:45Speaker 2: Old HR or eh yep.
- 50:48Speaker 3: So when I sat in the back of that, within
- 50:50Speaker 3: the first thirty seconds I would be car sick. And
- 50:53Speaker 3: then someone explained to me the reason for that is
- 50:56Speaker 3: the suspension rolled. So it was luck you're in a boat.
- 51:00Speaker 3: And with a lot of the new electric cars, the
- 51:04Speaker 3: acceleration is different, the deceleration is different, and so what's
- 51:09Speaker 3: happening is people who are passengers. When you get in
- 51:12Speaker 3: a car, you expect the car to have a certain
- 51:15Speaker 3: sort of acceleration process going through the Even an automatic car,
- 51:18Speaker 3: the gear changes will alter the acceleration. But with electric
- 51:23Speaker 3: cars it's so different that the researchers believe because we're
- 51:27Speaker 3: talking about a high percentage of people feeling more car sick.
- 51:31Speaker 3: So this has been some tested stuff like these. These
- 51:35Speaker 3: PhD students did a whole series of experiments. They looked
- 51:39Speaker 3: at how people reacted to being in electric cars, and
- 51:42Speaker 3: they talked about a high percentage of people because brain
- 51:48Speaker 3: anticipates a certain movement, because we're so conditioned to how
- 51:51Speaker 3: normal car drives that it's out of sync with what
- 51:55Speaker 3: the brain is anticipating and that's why people are feeling
- 51:58Speaker 3: car sick.
- 51:59Speaker 2: Wow.
- 51:59Speaker 1: Yeah, because the acceleration in electric car is almost totally linear.
- 52:03Speaker 2: You know, there's no it's like just yeah, one thing,
- 52:07Speaker 2: all right.
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- 52:41Speaker 1: The up butter Cup, We appreciate you, Tiff love the
- 52:45Speaker 1: banana jacket, couldn't love it more, couldn't love it more?
- 52:49Speaker 1: And the Clark Kent Spectacles that makes you look about
- 52:53Speaker 1: twenty IQ points smarter.
- 52:56Speaker 2: And the wedding ring, the wedding ring around your neck.
- 52:59Speaker 1: Just waiting for Patrick to jump the fence and realize
- 53:02Speaker 1: what he's missing out on.
- 53:03Speaker 4: That's the hook for him. That's the really mean.
- 53:06Speaker 1: I'll tell you what he'd be waiting for a while.
- 53:11Speaker 1: He's been waiting for me to put that around my neck.
- 53:13Speaker 1: But that's not coming. I will say goodbye, fair but Patrick,
- 53:18Speaker 1: thank you, Tip, thank you,