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- 0:00Speaker 1: Phil your home for the twelfth Man Free sents Football Friday.
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- 0:38Speaker 3: Hey, good morning, welcome in. It is a football Friday.
- 0:41Speaker 4: Chuck Powell, former Mariner, Bucky Jacobson, and Ashley Ryan with
- 0:45Speaker 4: you until ten o'clock this morning.
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- 1:19Speaker 4: Football Friday sponsored by Tito's Handmade Vodka. We welcome you
- 1:23Speaker 4: into this Friday show. Ashley Ryan Bucky Jacobson, Chuck Powell
- 1:27Speaker 4: with you, and all sorts of things to discuss here
- 1:31Speaker 4: on a Friday, A lot of football things to discuss
- 1:33Speaker 4: here on a friday. But we got to start with
- 1:36Speaker 4: this golden ticket that Bucky Jacobson has gotten for the weekend.
- 1:41Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you just casually said it too.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Yeah, he just kind of threw it out there, like.
- 1:49Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, family is flying off to Hawaii, so Bucky
- 1:55Speaker 4: has the place to himself. And I don't know, I
- 2:01Speaker 4: mean this is like, uh, there's there are layers to
- 2:06Speaker 4: this you have here is I mean, number one, you
- 2:10Speaker 4: don't get to go to Hawaii all right with your family,
- 2:13Speaker 4: which would be fun.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Yeah, why is amazing and families are cool too.
- 2:18Speaker 4: But on the flip side, you are left home as
- 2:22Speaker 4: a father of two and a husband that doesn't get
- 2:25Speaker 4: a lot of alone time.
- 2:26Speaker 3: I'm guessing no, you are left home at your homestead
- 2:30Speaker 3: to your own devices to do whatever you want. Plus,
- 2:35Speaker 3: because there's a plus here, because that's not like, you know,
- 2:38Speaker 3: wife and kids are gonna go visit family, which is
- 2:41Speaker 3: a little bit of one of those like yes, I
- 2:44Speaker 3: want to do it, but I also feel like I
- 2:46Speaker 3: have to do it. This is they're going.
- 2:49Speaker 4: To paradise, so that gives you the free ticket to
- 2:53Speaker 4: really do whatever you want.
- 2:56Speaker 3: And I'm not like, don't go, don't go.
- 2:58Speaker 4: Take your minds there. I'm not talking about like things
- 2:59Speaker 4: that right, compromise your marriage or anything like that.
- 3:03Speaker 2: I was just thinking, you'd play with a chainsaw, whatever.
- 3:06Speaker 3: You want to do, whatever you would get in trouble for,
- 3:09Speaker 3: Like should you be drinking that much? Right? Oh?
- 3:12Speaker 5: Yeah, at some point, should.
- 3:16Speaker 3: You be eating all of those ribs? You know you're
- 3:20Speaker 3: not gonna have to hear that one time.
- 3:22Speaker 4: And because she and the kids are off having paradise
- 3:26Speaker 4: level fun, Yeah, you get to do whatever that if
- 3:30Speaker 4: you want.
- 3:33Speaker 3: This is true.
- 3:34Speaker 6: Well, when you paint it like that, it makes me
- 3:36Speaker 6: feel a little bit better about the fact that I
- 3:38Speaker 6: am going to be missing my kids, you know, swimming
- 3:41Speaker 6: frolicking in the ocean.
- 3:43Speaker 3: Yeah, that's real, that's true.
- 3:46Speaker 6: There's like, oh man, like seeing my kids snorble for
- 3:50Speaker 6: the first time that I am going to miss, right,
- 3:53Speaker 6: and and just the fact that they're going to to Hawaii.
- 3:56Speaker 6: How excited my kids were this morning. Woke them up
- 3:58Speaker 6: at four o'clock this morning and bears.
- 4:00Speaker 3: Like this is great. Ye crazy.
- 4:03Speaker 6: What are we more excited about the long plane ride
- 4:05Speaker 6: or the short bus ride. When we get there, he's
- 4:10Speaker 6: all excited about the trip. So like, I'm there's a
- 4:13Speaker 6: part of me that is really genuinely like oh man
- 4:16Speaker 6: and yeah, and then there's a part of it it's like, oh,
- 4:19Speaker 6: I'm gonna stay up really late one night with music
- 4:22Speaker 6: plane in my house.
- 4:23Speaker 4: But I think that's the point, like, because there is
- 4:26Speaker 4: a part of you that it's you're bummed. Yeah, it
- 4:30Speaker 4: is also the license to like, Okay, yeah, you know,
- 4:34Speaker 4: I have to make up for this sadness. I have
- 4:37Speaker 4: to fill this hole, and the only way that I
- 4:39Speaker 4: can clearly fill it is by doing things Bucky loves
- 4:43Speaker 4: to do, Bucky alone loves to do, and to do
- 4:47Speaker 4: them at a level that.
- 4:49Speaker 3: Wouldn't make my wife comfortable.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:52Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, things that I mean, because there's not a lot.
- 4:55Speaker 6: I mean to do what I want for the most part,
- 4:57Speaker 6: but there's like, for example, one thing that is for
- 5:00Speaker 6: certain I have.
- 5:01Speaker 3: You know, I've dropped like.
- 5:02Speaker 6: Thirty pounds in the last few months and been working out,
- 5:05Speaker 6: and I'm gonna keep doing that. That's actually something that
- 5:07Speaker 6: I've actually kind of got into and started to enjoy now.
- 5:10Speaker 3: One of the.
- 5:11Speaker 6: Things that has changed is my diet, right I've been
- 5:14Speaker 6: I've been eating better and not having as much bad stuff.
- 5:17Speaker 6: I'll still from time to time have something here and there,
- 5:20Speaker 6: and you know, Halloween candy for has been kind of
- 5:23Speaker 6: a bit of a bugaboo as of late, but I
- 5:26Speaker 6: have already decided that today for on my way home,
- 5:30Speaker 6: I will be ordering too family size Frankie's pizzas.
- 5:35Speaker 3: And I will be eating them. I'm talking. I will
- 5:38Speaker 3: be eating them for lunch today.
- 5:42Speaker 6: Then I'm going to the uh Nate Bargatzi comedy show tonight, Yes, yeah,
- 5:48Speaker 6: oh sweet, I guess and Duster Nikos and will be
- 5:52Speaker 6: there as well, so that'll be fun now. And then
- 5:55Speaker 6: uh for breakfast tomorrow, I'll be having more of that pizza,
- 5:58Speaker 6: and then when I'm just a little tiny bit hungry,
- 6:02Speaker 6: I'll have another piece of that pizza.
- 6:04Speaker 2: So it's one of those you don't have to heat
- 6:06Speaker 2: it up.
- 6:06Speaker 4: I didn't have to give you a guy, I didn't
- 6:09Speaker 4: have to tip you off to what you got last night.
- 6:12Speaker 3: I did the dishes right because my wife was I
- 6:14Speaker 3: don't have to do those all weekend till Sunday night.
- 6:17Speaker 6: Well, not even then, I guarantee it won't be a
- 6:19Speaker 6: dish used. There'll be a paper plate used. Come home
- 6:24Speaker 6: like Wednesday, I think Tuesday night.
- 6:26Speaker 3: So not till Tuesday night, I won't do anything. I
- 6:28Speaker 3: won't know.
- 6:29Speaker 6: I So last night, my wife's finishing packing up, you know,
- 6:32Speaker 6: and it's difficult for a mom packing for herself and
- 6:35Speaker 6: then two kids and trying to figure out everything, even
- 6:38Speaker 6: though they whatever, you forget they have it Hawaii probably so,
- 6:43Speaker 6: but she's doing that. So I cooked dinner and then afterwards,
- 6:47Speaker 6: I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna get the
- 6:48Speaker 6: dishes done because they're not going.
- 6:49Speaker 3: To be used again.
- 6:51Speaker 6: They're just not gonna I'm full blown like and I
- 6:55Speaker 6: to some of you, it's like I've been doing this
- 6:57Speaker 6: for the change in my diet was for my own good,
- 7:00Speaker 6: not for the.
- 7:01Speaker 3: Next four days five days. It isn't.
- 7:03Speaker 4: Doctor will tell you it's not for your own good
- 7:06Speaker 4: to keep eating healthy while your family's right right.
- 7:10Speaker 3: You got to break out of that.
- 7:11Speaker 5: I have a very specific picture for how I feel
- 7:14Speaker 5: like your day is gonna go now that I know
- 7:16Speaker 5: you've got two pizzas coming, It's gonna be get home,
- 7:19Speaker 5: eat your pizza.
- 7:20Speaker 2: Take a nap because you can.
- 7:21Speaker 5: Because there's no one keeping you wake up.
- 7:25Speaker 2: Poor a drink.
- 7:26Speaker 5: All of this, by the way, the second you get home,
- 7:28Speaker 5: it's like you're gonna have sweat shorts on or sweatpants
- 7:31Speaker 5: and that's it and no shir no shirt.
- 7:35Speaker 2: And then it's gonna be poor drink.
- 7:38Speaker 5: You're gonna be out by the bonfire, TV on music
- 7:41Speaker 5: blasting more drinks. Sometimes cans will get crushed. Cans will
- 7:48Speaker 5: get crushed, ah, thrown on the ground. There's gonna be
- 7:52Speaker 5: some arm raising in front of the bonfire.
- 7:56Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much nailed it. That's just this afternoon.
- 7:59Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that was only today. Yeah, that was only
- 8:01Speaker 2: today before I.
- 8:02Speaker 3: Go to Barkata. Yeah. Yeah, that's just the tip of
- 8:05Speaker 3: the iceberg.
- 8:06Speaker 2: Yeah, uh huh.
- 8:08Speaker 6: Pretty much nailed it. There would be some chainsaw running
- 8:11Speaker 6: some track or driving.
- 8:12Speaker 5: And I was picturing with the chainsaw that you might
- 8:14Speaker 5: even try to be like, oh, I'm going to carve
- 8:15Speaker 5: something out of this, and then you give that you have.
- 8:18Speaker 3: A piece of wood that I was thinking about carving.
- 8:20Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds like work. Yeah, just really have been
- 8:25Speaker 4: longing to do.
- 8:26Speaker 3: It, do it.
- 8:27Speaker 6: I didn't longing to do it and if I have
- 8:28Speaker 6: a glass of penalty, anything we get with a glass
- 8:30Speaker 6: of penalty next year, it becomes no longer work.
- 8:33Speaker 2: That's enjoyable and creative.
- 8:36Speaker 3: Liquid courage, liquid encouragement.
- 8:38Speaker 4: All right, Well, I don't know, Yes, without it hurting
- 8:43Speaker 4: a little bit, it isn't doesn't give you the.
- 8:45Speaker 3: License to have as much fun as it could potentially have.
- 8:48Speaker 2: But also think about it, you don't have to deal
- 8:50Speaker 2: with kids in an airport or.
- 8:51Speaker 3: On an airplane. Yeah.
- 8:52Speaker 4: I don't like that whole like whole pass argument. I
- 8:55Speaker 4: think that's ridiculous.
- 8:57Speaker 3: But this, this is what a guy really likes. Yeah,
- 9:02Speaker 3: just the place to himself.
- 9:04Speaker 5: That we've got a lot better relationship advice than Paul
- 9:08Speaker 5: Pierce does.
- 9:09Speaker 2: Look at us.
- 9:10Speaker 4: All right, Well, the Seahawks are going to take on
- 9:14Speaker 4: the Cardinals this Sunday. The week in the National Football
- 9:17Speaker 4: they got started last night with the Denver Broncos winning
- 9:21Speaker 4: over the Raiders by a final score of ten to seven.
- 9:26Speaker 4: For the Broncos, they just kind of figure out ways
- 9:28Speaker 4: to win this year. They've won seven straight games they
- 9:31Speaker 4: have they're the only team in the National Football League
- 9:34Speaker 4: with eight wins. But I think for our purposes this morning,
- 9:39Speaker 4: it's a little bit more about the Raiders, who once
- 9:41Speaker 4: again could not perform two wins on the season. For
- 9:45Speaker 4: Pete Carroll, Gino Smith and the new look Raiders, they
- 9:49Speaker 4: were I mean, they brought Pete Carroll in to compete, right,
- 9:52Speaker 4: They brought Pete Carroll in to take the next step.
- 9:55Speaker 4: They brought Geno Smith in and sign him to a
- 9:58Speaker 4: big deal to actually be a playoff competitor, and they
- 10:02Speaker 4: have instead taken a step back. I used this topic
- 10:06Speaker 4: at the close of yesterday's show, and so we didn't
- 10:10Speaker 4: really get to sink our teeth into it. And I'm
- 10:12Speaker 4: not sitting here like, you know, nanny Nanny booboos. That's
- 10:17Speaker 4: not the approach I take to this topic. But I
- 10:21Speaker 4: do believe it is worth noting that whatever happened between
- 10:25Speaker 4: Pete and John, when John won the power struggle within
- 10:29Speaker 4: the organization, I think we should all be really happy
- 10:34Speaker 4: about that here in Seattle, because I don't know it
- 10:38Speaker 4: feels to me, and I don't root against Pete Carroll whatsoever,
- 10:42Speaker 4: but it does feel to me that maybe Pete was
- 10:45Speaker 4: standing in the way, not just maybe it feels to
- 10:48Speaker 4: me Pete was standing in the way of John. Really
- 10:50Speaker 4: wanting to do what he wanted to do with this organization,
- 10:53Speaker 4: and maybe Pete was making more of the personnel decisions
- 10:58Speaker 4: than John was comfortable with. In the last past few years,
- 11:00Speaker 4: I said it repeatedly, this Jamal Adams trade does not
- 11:04Speaker 4: feel like something John Schneider would do. And even though
- 11:07Speaker 4: we don't have any evidence to support that, or at
- 11:11Speaker 4: least any guarantee to support that, I think it feels
- 11:14Speaker 4: more evident than ever that that was a peate thing.
- 11:19Speaker 3: The Jamal Adams love affair.
- 11:21Speaker 4: I think the Geno Smith marrying yourself to Geno Smith
- 11:24Speaker 4: felt like a Pete thing. Otherwise he doesn't his first
- 11:27Speaker 4: item of business isn't to go trade for Geno Smith.
- 11:30Speaker 3: The moment he's got a brand new job, he.
- 11:32Speaker 4: Had an opportunity to be out from underneath a decent
- 11:35Speaker 4: but not very good quarterback, and instead he went and
- 11:39Speaker 4: got He went and convinced Tom Brady and others to
- 11:43Speaker 4: go grab him, a brand new general manager there in Vegas,
- 11:46Speaker 4: to go grab him.
- 11:47Speaker 3: So, you know, it kind of feels like, now we know.
- 11:54Speaker 4: John Schneider needed to get Pete Carroll out of the
- 11:56Speaker 4: way so that John Schneider could do John Schneider things.
- 11:59Speaker 4: And since Pete left, really the Seahawks have kind of
- 12:03Speaker 4: taken off again. And so I'm glad John Schneider won
- 12:06Speaker 4: the power struggle, and I hold no ill will against
- 12:09Speaker 4: Pete Carroll, but it's becoming more evident with every day
- 12:14Speaker 4: that he was a problem.
- 12:15Speaker 6: Yeah, well the more. I mean, I've never had a
- 12:18Speaker 6: big love affair for Pete Carroll. I'm not a giant
- 12:21Speaker 6: fan of the raw raw coach. I do think that
- 12:25Speaker 6: he's great. Obviously, he was great here. I think he
- 12:29Speaker 6: there's a place for those types of coaches and it
- 12:32Speaker 6: works for a while, and it worked for a long
- 12:34Speaker 6: time here, but he most certainly was stuck. I mean,
- 12:36Speaker 6: the team was not getting better, right. It kind of
- 12:39Speaker 6: it took him to greatness, I mean, honestly, really close
- 12:43Speaker 6: a yard away from being dynastic, quite possibly, and yet
- 12:47Speaker 6: after that it fell off, and then it kind of
- 12:50Speaker 6: just stayed there, and then it seemed like it was
- 12:53Speaker 6: even trickling even further.
- 12:55Speaker 3: So I think that it was the right time.
- 12:57Speaker 6: I think that that type of coaching, while there's definitely
- 13:00Speaker 6: some upside to it, I think Gino Smith is a
- 13:02Speaker 6: prime example of hey, come here, be the backup when
- 13:06Speaker 6: the time comes. If the time comes, we will give
- 13:09Speaker 6: you your opportunity. And when you do, all of a
- 13:11Speaker 6: sudden it changed his world. It changed Geno Smith's world.
- 13:14Speaker 6: So Gino Smith, I think is way more, you know,
- 13:18Speaker 6: like closely, you know, tied to Pete Carroll and the
- 13:22Speaker 6: opportunity that he gave him. On the flip side of it,
- 13:24Speaker 6: it isn't usual that you notice the coach actually falling
- 13:28Speaker 6: in love with someone's story.
- 13:29Speaker 3: The way that I think Pete Carroll does.
- 13:31Speaker 6: I think Pete Carroll, he'll he loved the.
- 13:34Speaker 3: Idea of Jamal Adams. Well, is X factor? Boy? This
- 13:37Speaker 3: guy plays a game different. Yep.
- 13:39Speaker 6: We'll give up the farm basically to bring this guy
- 13:41Speaker 6: in and then I'll use him in a way that
- 13:43Speaker 6: will break records for DB's and sacks and whatnot. Well, yeah,
- 13:47Speaker 6: but is he good at the whole position? I mean,
- 13:50Speaker 6: does he really make your defense better? Well, it's one
- 13:54Speaker 6: of those That's where I think Pete Carroll's kind of
- 13:56Speaker 6: stuck to some degree, Like, no, I firmly believe in
- 13:59Speaker 6: my thing. Well, your thing worked when you when you
- 14:02Speaker 6: you and John together, you know, found Sherman in the
- 14:06Speaker 6: fifth or whatever around it was, and it cam in
- 14:09Speaker 6: the third and all of the things Earl Thomas, all
- 14:12Speaker 6: of the way in which they built that team, and
- 14:14Speaker 6: then his philosophy poured into it.
- 14:17Speaker 3: It worked.
- 14:17Speaker 6: And then when you had to somehow maneuver your way
- 14:20Speaker 6: around less than stellar drafts and some injuries and some
- 14:24Speaker 6: declining quarterback play, all of a sudden it just kind
- 14:27Speaker 6: of fizzled out to some extent. And now he goes
- 14:30Speaker 6: to the Raiders, and I'm obviously not going to cheer
- 14:32Speaker 6: for him when he's coaching the Raiders. And yet there's
- 14:34Speaker 6: a lot of the retreads, not just Gino but or Jamal.
- 14:37Speaker 6: I mean, I saw yesterday Tyler Lockett, now John Radigan,
- 14:42Speaker 6: a great story army guy, he's on special teams. I mean,
- 14:45Speaker 6: there's a lot of guys that he's like, no, I
- 14:47Speaker 6: still want them, and you're like, MS weren't very good.
- 14:50Speaker 4: I think the three like red flags now that seems
- 14:54Speaker 4: so obvious. And they were talking points at the time.
- 14:56Speaker 4: They were debatable at the time, but they seem very
- 14:59Speaker 4: obvious now. Number One, when you are a player's coach,
- 15:05Speaker 4: and he always walked a really fine line, and I
- 15:08Speaker 4: think he did a tremendous job of it. He should
- 15:10Speaker 4: write a book on how to manage players, because he
- 15:14Speaker 4: had a really interesting locker room and for a short period,
- 15:17Speaker 4: actually a long period of time by NFL standards, he
- 15:21Speaker 4: was getting the most out of that group. They were
- 15:23Speaker 4: practically a dynasty. He had a record setting defense, and
- 15:29Speaker 4: there it was a great era of football here in Seattle, Washington.
- 15:33Speaker 4: But in doing that, he broke the locker room because
- 15:38Speaker 4: he had to give his quarterback preferential treatment, and it
- 15:42Speaker 4: pissed off everybody else who couldn't see why Russell wasn't
- 15:48Speaker 4: really part of the team. And then the first warning
- 15:51Speaker 4: sign was then when Russell sort of turned on Pete,
- 15:55Speaker 4: like was blaming Pete. So here you've broken the locker
- 15:59Speaker 4: room of a team that might have launched a dynasty
- 16:04Speaker 4: for one guy, the quarterback, and then the quarterback the
- 16:08Speaker 4: moment he started being told that he needs to cook
- 16:13Speaker 4: kind of turned on Pete Carroll.
- 16:15Speaker 3: That was warning sign number one.
- 16:18Speaker 4: Warning sign number two was and this goes were any
- 16:22Speaker 4: level of football. When you're a defensive coordinator, a defensive specialist,
- 16:27Speaker 4: and you're the head coach and the problem with your
- 16:29Speaker 4: team year after year is defense, that's warning sign number two.
- 16:34Speaker 4: And then number three the red flag that was debatable
- 16:37Speaker 4: at the time, and I feel as obvious now he
- 16:40Speaker 4: obviously was way too involved with personnel decisions. He was
- 16:45Speaker 4: getting way too involved with John's job, maybe enacting his
- 16:50Speaker 4: power over John in certain decisions. And I think that's
- 16:54Speaker 4: ultimately what led John Schneider in a closed door meeting
- 16:57Speaker 4: to tell the owners tim of like a him or
- 17:00Speaker 4: me kind of deal, like I can't do my job
- 17:03Speaker 4: if he's going to continue to interfere with it, so
- 17:06Speaker 4: I can go get another general manager job.
- 17:08Speaker 3: Like that.
- 17:09Speaker 4: I'll go if you want me to go, but I'm
- 17:11Speaker 4: not doing this anymore. And since that time, John Schneider's
- 17:16Speaker 4: probably been on as big a heater as he's been
- 17:19Speaker 4: on as a general manager since he put together the
- 17:22Speaker 4: last championship team.
- 17:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I love Pete Carroll. You guys know
- 17:26Speaker 2: that I call him Uncle Pete.
- 17:27Speaker 5: But I do think that Pete's strength is also his weakness,
- 17:30Speaker 5: because I don't think he has the ability to move
- 17:32Speaker 5: on from these players that he, you know, grows an
- 17:36Speaker 5: affinity for, and he just keeps thinking I'm the one
- 17:39Speaker 5: that can make the difference. And I think that's why
- 17:40Speaker 5: he held on to Russell too long. I think that's
- 17:42Speaker 5: why he's got half the Seahawks on the Raiders, and
- 17:46Speaker 5: that's why he interfered with John. He was determined that
- 17:48Speaker 5: he had all these you know these he because of
- 17:52Speaker 5: his connection with his players.
- 17:54Speaker 2: He's the one that could get more out of him.
- 17:55Speaker 2: He can do it. He can do it, he can
- 17:57Speaker 2: do it well.
- 17:57Speaker 5: At some point that relationship has grown old and a
- 18:00Speaker 5: lot of different with a lot of different people, but
- 18:03Speaker 5: he has still wanted to cling to it, and so
- 18:06Speaker 5: I do think, yeah, that was the right time for
- 18:08Speaker 5: them to move on.
- 18:08Speaker 2: Obviously, it's worked out very well for the Seahawks.
- 18:11Speaker 3: And if anything, it was a little late.
- 18:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that actually, And I mean
- 18:15Speaker 2: at the.
- 18:15Speaker 4: Time it's felt kind of shocking, but if anything, if anything,
- 18:19Speaker 4: it was a little late.
- 18:20Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that.
- 18:21Speaker 5: And it's but I just also been watching last night
- 18:23Speaker 5: and seeing Pete on TV and seeing how terrible the
- 18:26Speaker 5: Raiders are.
- 18:26Speaker 2: I just kind of almost felt bad for him.
- 18:28Speaker 4: Too, though, And Gina looks horrible, horrible, And it wasn't
- 18:33Speaker 4: just last night now, it has been all season long.
- 18:36Speaker 4: So uh yeah, if there was a power struggle and
- 18:40Speaker 4: it kind of feels like that there was. Yeah, I
- 18:42Speaker 4: think we are all we should all feel very fortunate
- 18:45Speaker 4: here in Seattle.
- 18:46Speaker 3: That the right guy won the power struggle.
- 18:48Speaker 4: All right, let's find out what's on tap for the
- 18:50Speaker 4: rest of the show.
- 18:53Speaker 3: What's on what's on tep.
- 18:56Speaker 4: Hright, Broncos over the Raiders to start the new week
- 18:59Speaker 4: of the National Football League ten to seven will play
- 19:02Speaker 4: some Factor fiction at seven thirty five. That's a win
- 19:04Speaker 4: for US Seahawks Cardinals Sunday at one o'clock. Reg Bell
- 19:10Speaker 4: will join us at seven oh five, Hugh Millen for
- 19:12Speaker 4: x'es and o's at nine, and coach Holmgren will be
- 19:15Speaker 4: with us at nine thirty. This Sunday will mark the
- 19:17Speaker 4: debut of Rashid Shaheed in a Sea Hawk uniform. It
- 19:21Speaker 4: will also mark maybe the first game of the Jacoby
- 19:25Speaker 4: Brissette era for the Arizona Cardinals, depending on what rumor
- 19:29Speaker 4: you want to believe, either Kyler Murray really has a
- 19:32Speaker 4: bad foot injury and is out for a month more
- 19:36Speaker 4: or Jacoby Brissett has taken the job for him there
- 19:40Speaker 4: as the starting quarterback for the Cardinals at least for
- 19:42Speaker 4: the rest of the season. NFL Week number ten Man
- 19:45Speaker 4: it is bevy of really good matchups this weekend. He
- 19:49Speaker 4: got Atlanta, Indiana will be a six to thirty start
- 19:52Speaker 4: from Germany. You got Baltimore and Minnesota, which suddenly looks
- 19:55Speaker 4: very interesting. Cleveland at the Jets is even interesting because
- 19:58Speaker 4: the losers probably going to get the number one pick
- 20:01Speaker 4: in the draft. New England and Tampa Bay's a fantastic matchup.
- 20:05Speaker 4: You got the Rams and the forty nine Ers playing
- 20:07Speaker 4: this Sunday, and then the Sunday night game will be
- 20:09Speaker 4: Pittsburgh and the Chargers. College Football Week number eleven fascinating
- 20:14Speaker 4: as well. The game of the week. I don't know
- 20:16Speaker 4: if you would have had this on your BINGO card
- 20:18Speaker 4: at the beginning of the year, but BYU at Texas
- 20:20Speaker 4: Tech seven versus eight in the country is your game
- 20:24Speaker 4: of the week in college football. Will talk more about
- 20:25Speaker 4: that in the OCHO at eight o'clock. Huskies will be
- 20:28Speaker 4: in Madison, Wisconsin to take on the Badgers. We'll do
- 20:31Speaker 4: our Big Den preview at eight forty five and more
- 20:35Speaker 4: on that matchup coming up with Rick new eisl here
- 20:37Speaker 4: in a bit sounders, excuse me. College basketball Huskies moved
- 20:41Speaker 4: to two to zero on the young season I'm surprised
- 20:44Speaker 4: that there were so many eyeballs on the Broncos last night.
- 20:47Speaker 4: Most Denver fans, of course, locked into Dent University of
- 20:50Speaker 4: Denver basketball, their favorite thing there.
- 20:53Speaker 3: I wouldn't be supposed to people change the channel that
- 20:55Speaker 3: way through that game.
- 20:57Speaker 4: Eighty four to seventy the final score of the Huskies Denver.
- 21:01Speaker 4: And now they get ready for Baylor on Sunday, So
- 21:04Speaker 4: the child's plays over.
- 21:05Speaker 3: Now you're gonna face a real team coming up on Sunday.
- 21:08Speaker 4: Sounders Minnesota will play Saturday at one o'clock.
- 21:11Speaker 3: If I said Sunday yesterday, I'm stupid. Okay, Oh you
- 21:16Speaker 3: just to no soccer.
- 21:17Speaker 4: Sounders at Minnesota tomorrow at one o'clock to decide that series.
- 21:21Speaker 4: Cracking at Saint Louis tomorrow at four point thirty. And
- 21:25Speaker 4: there's some news from the stove that we will have
- 21:27Speaker 4: to discuss before the show comes to a close. But
- 21:30Speaker 4: coming up next here on the program, Rick new Isil
- 21:33Speaker 4: was with us on Tuesday, in case you missed it.
- 21:35Speaker 4: He had some interesting things to say about Wisconsin Badgers
- 21:38Speaker 4: football and Washington Huskies football. So we'll replay some of
- 21:42Speaker 4: that for you and react next on Sports Radio ninety
- 21:45Speaker 4: three point three KJRFM.
- 21:52Speaker 3: Hey, good Friday to you. Welcome into the radio program.
- 21:55Speaker 4: It is Chucking Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety
- 21:57Speaker 4: three point three kJ r FM. By the way, Dustin
- 22:00Speaker 4: Nickerson's going to join us today, comedian Dustin Nickerson eight
- 22:03Speaker 4: thirty today. And I know he's going to share where
- 22:07Speaker 4: he's going to be tonight, which is the same place
- 22:10Speaker 4: that apparently Bucky and Ashley are going to be and
- 22:13Speaker 4: another comedian that we all love very much. But I
- 22:16Speaker 4: think he's also going to take me to task, So
- 22:19Speaker 4: I'm prepared for that.
- 22:20Speaker 3: Oh is that right?
- 22:20Speaker 4: Yeah, it might have to rough up a comedian. Oh
- 22:23Speaker 4: really Yeah, Well I don't know, only if he starts it.
- 22:27Speaker 2: Okay, he probably will.
- 22:29Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think he's going to take you
- 22:31Speaker 3: to task on?
- 22:32Speaker 4: Well, he invited us all to his comedy show was
- 22:36Speaker 4: out here, and you went, and Ashley couldn't go, but
- 22:40Speaker 4: she responded and I completely forgot to even respond.
- 22:43Speaker 3: So I really did screw up.
- 22:46Speaker 2: I did, especially because you want to be his friend.
- 22:49Speaker 3: Uh well.
- 22:51Speaker 2: You did until he told Jim.
- 22:57Speaker 3: No, I do want to see I mean I did
- 23:01Speaker 3: screw up. I mean, that's that's just not cool. But yeah,
- 23:04Speaker 3: so we're going to have to there's going to be
- 23:06Speaker 3: an uncomfortable moment.
- 23:07Speaker 2: Do we need if we need to step in a
- 23:09Speaker 2: mediate you just let us know.
- 23:10Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, we'll see, we'll see where it comes to,
- 23:13Speaker 3: all right.
- 23:14Speaker 4: Anyway, we've got no cliche keys to victory coming up
- 23:17Speaker 4: at six forty five.
- 23:19Speaker 3: Rick new Eisl was with us though earlier this week.
- 23:22Speaker 4: Every Tuesday at nine o'clock and often we replay some
- 23:26Speaker 4: of his conversation from the week right here at six
- 23:30Speaker 4: point thirty on Fridays, and we're going to do that
- 23:32Speaker 4: today the Wisconsin Badgers. So we'll be hosting the Washington Huskies.
- 23:37Speaker 4: Huskies coming off of by newly ranked twenty third in
- 23:40Speaker 4: the country, and Wisconsin has just.
- 23:43Speaker 3: Been flailing, failing at football.
- 23:45Speaker 4: Here under Luke Fickle, their head coach, who certainly went
- 23:50Speaker 4: to Wisconsin with all sorts of momentum as one of
- 23:53Speaker 4: the top coaches in college football, but it just hasn't
- 23:56Speaker 4: worked out since he went to Madison. And so we'll
- 24:00Speaker 4: just pick up the conversation when I asked a coach, Neuheisel,
- 24:03Speaker 4: why would a Husky fan be worried about Wisconsin at all?
- 24:07Speaker 3: This Saturday.
- 24:08Speaker 7: Well, just for the same reason we talked about Penn
- 24:11Speaker 7: State being dangerous. Do you just feel like this Wisconsin Tine,
- 24:15Speaker 7: given the pride that's associated with that program, is going
- 24:19Speaker 7: to rise up and win one of these games, and
- 24:21Speaker 7: you don't want to go in there and make it
- 24:24Speaker 7: make them feel that this is the Saturday that's going
- 24:26Speaker 7: to happen. So it's going to be really important that
- 24:30Speaker 7: Washington get off to a fast start and show that
- 24:33Speaker 7: this is not going to be one of those weekends
- 24:35Speaker 7: where you're going to have your way. Fortunately, what times
- 24:39Speaker 7: that game start, So three point thirty in Camp Rantle.
- 24:44Speaker 7: That's late enough where you're not sitting there thinking about
- 24:47Speaker 7: your body clock. That will feel normal to the Dogs.
- 24:51Speaker 7: And again, quarterback centric offenses need the quarterback to deliver.
- 24:56Speaker 3: The Mom's going to.
- 24:57Speaker 7: Have to be good and he's going to have to
- 25:00Speaker 7: his legs involved in the game. If his legs are
- 25:02Speaker 7: involved in the game, I always like Washington. If his
- 25:06Speaker 7: legs are not, I start worrying.
- 25:08Speaker 3: All right, So once Luke Fickle gets fired and there
- 25:12Speaker 3: are one hundred and.
- 25:13Speaker 7: It's gonna happen, It's gonna happen. No, first of all,
- 25:17Speaker 7: Chris McIntosh doesn't have the money. Second of all, it's
- 25:22Speaker 7: with all these firings, there aren't enough coaches to go
- 25:24Speaker 7: around and get you another good one. Well that was
- 25:26Speaker 7: going to be maybe a new offensive coordinator coming in
- 25:30Speaker 7: next year, but they basically have had a U turn.
- 25:34Speaker 7: They started down a path trying to be something that
- 25:37Speaker 7: they weren't, trying to be a pat team, and they
- 25:40Speaker 7: realize that's not who they are nor how they can
- 25:43Speaker 7: augment their roster. So they basically did a U turn
- 25:46Speaker 7: and now they're going back down Barry Alvarez Boulevard. But
- 25:49Speaker 7: it's going to take a year to get themselves calibrated
- 25:52Speaker 7: to play like that again.
- 25:54Speaker 4: Break new Isiel from earlier in the week talking about
- 25:57Speaker 4: the Wisconsin Badgers and Luke Fick as their head coach,
- 26:02Speaker 4: And yes, I was trying to lead to a question
- 26:04Speaker 4: about are there going to be enough candidates for all
- 26:06Speaker 4: the jobs that are opening up? But that was the
- 26:09Speaker 4: isolated part and Rick new Isiel had some information there
- 26:14Speaker 4: cut me off, and understandably so he was right. Just
- 26:17Speaker 4: yesterday we found out that the Wisconsin Badgers have no
- 26:20Speaker 4: intention of letting Luke Fickle go this offseason, despite the
- 26:23Speaker 4: fact that a really proud program and not an Ohio
- 26:27Speaker 4: State Michigan level history, but the next level for sure.
- 26:33Speaker 4: In the last twenty five years, I mean, this has
- 26:36Speaker 4: been a top twelve program, top fifteen program in college football.
- 26:41Speaker 4: They just consistently win, and they consistently win the exact
- 26:44Speaker 4: same way. They just got a bunch of road graders
- 26:47Speaker 4: up front, and it doesn't matter who they put a tailback,
- 26:50Speaker 4: they rush for hundreds of yards. It feels like per game.
- 26:55Speaker 4: They've never with the exception of the Russell Wilson era
- 26:58Speaker 4: in Wisconsin, had a G eight quarterback there in Madison,
- 27:02Speaker 4: and yet they always find ways to win. Luke Fickle
- 27:06Speaker 4: got there with all sorts of momentum coming out of Cincinnati,
- 27:10Speaker 4: and they really thought that he was going to do
- 27:13Speaker 4: magic up there, and instead the identity of the program
- 27:17Speaker 4: has just dissolved and now they don't do anything right.
- 27:21Speaker 3: They don't do.
- 27:22Speaker 4: Anything right Bucky the Wisconsin Badgers feeling like they got
- 27:26Speaker 4: an improvement at head coach, They got one of the
- 27:29Speaker 4: hot names in college football. They ranked to this day
- 27:33Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty fifth in college football in offense,
- 27:38Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty fifth in the country. I mean,
- 27:43Speaker 4: how many college football programs are there. One hundred and
- 27:45Speaker 4: thirty six now one hundred and thirty two, Like that
- 27:50Speaker 4: is as bad as it gets, especially for an offensive
- 27:53Speaker 4: minded head coach who rolled into Madison, Wisconsin not to
- 27:56Speaker 4: fix the program. He was just supposed to do, elevate,
- 28:00Speaker 4: take us to that next level, take us to that
- 28:03Speaker 4: top shelf, put us on that shelf with Michigan and
- 28:06Speaker 4: Ohio State. And instead they've done nothing but tumble down
- 28:11Speaker 4: the ladder and they can't win a They can't win
- 28:15Speaker 4: a conference game right now in Madison, Wisconsin. That's how
- 28:19Speaker 4: bad it's fallen since Luke Fickle took over the place.
- 28:21Speaker 6: Yeah, well, coach said, and I understand it makes sense.
- 28:24Speaker 6: I mean you're right where. It seems like what we're
- 28:28Speaker 6: used to is that road graders. They run the ball,
- 28:31Speaker 6: they make it ugly, and they'll beat some teams, maybe
- 28:34Speaker 6: even sniper jump up and sniper or ranked team.
- 28:36Speaker 3: From time to time and now.
- 28:37Speaker 4: Time to time, they were a top fifteen program in America.
- 28:41Speaker 4: At one point they won every year they competed for
- 28:45Speaker 4: Big ten titles.
- 28:46Speaker 6: They always seem like a team that like competed like
- 28:48Speaker 6: they did, never felt like a team to me, that
- 28:51Speaker 6: was like this powerhouse, right but they felt like a
- 28:53Speaker 6: team like you can't ever overlook them. And right now,
- 28:55Speaker 6: I think that when they lose, they're the guy that
- 28:58Speaker 6: they had envisioned all offseason and all during you know, spring,
- 29:02Speaker 6: spring practice and whatnot. They're the Billy Edwards kid in
- 29:05Speaker 6: the first game, the quarterback. When they lost that, they
- 29:08Speaker 6: they found a way to beat the Middle Tennessee's or
- 29:11Speaker 6: whatever early in the year, and then you know, they
- 29:14Speaker 6: dropped a fairly tight one against Alabama in their first
- 29:18Speaker 6: kind of big game and then lost one to Maryland.
- 29:21Speaker 6: After that, It's like they lost to Michigan Iowa, which
- 29:24Speaker 6: is a good team, but they got absolutely stomped, and
- 29:26Speaker 6: then Ohio State and Oregon. To me, I can see
- 29:29Speaker 6: how Fickle's not getting his seat isn't heating up. To me,
- 29:32Speaker 6: it's like, Okay, you are bad right now compared to
- 29:35Speaker 6: what we thought you were going to be and obviously
- 29:37Speaker 6: where they projected him when he came from Cincinnati. But
- 29:41Speaker 6: I can also see how it's like, Okay, you lost
- 29:43Speaker 6: your starting quarterback and you haven't played any sort of
- 29:46Speaker 6: cupcake schedule, which you just don't when you're in the
- 29:48Speaker 6: Big Ten. So to me, it made sense how he
- 29:50Speaker 6: wouldn't be necessarily on the hot seat.
- 29:53Speaker 4: Well, just to go through it, I mean three straight
- 29:57Speaker 4: Rose Bulls twenty ten, eleven and twelve, eleven and three
- 30:01Speaker 4: and twenty fourteen, Cotton Bowl in twenty sixteen, Orange Bowl
- 30:05Speaker 4: in twenty seventeen, you know, Rose Bowl again in twenty nineteen.
- 30:09Speaker 4: I mean, that's a stretch of ten years, eleven years,
- 30:12Speaker 4: they made four Rose Bowls. That's four Big Ten titles
- 30:14Speaker 4: in eleven years. I don't even think Michigan's pulled that
- 30:18Speaker 4: off that much success Ohio State has. I mean, they
- 30:21Speaker 4: were right there with them, and they came off a
- 30:25Speaker 4: seven and six season and thought that they were slipping
- 30:28Speaker 4: and handed it over to Luke Fickle and they have
- 30:30Speaker 4: just gotten worse and worse seven and six, five and seven,
- 30:33Speaker 4: and this year can't win a game in the Big Ten. So,
- 30:36Speaker 4: I mean that's a pretty lofty perch. Ten eleven years
- 30:39Speaker 4: winning four Big ten titles. Yeah, and that's that's that's
- 30:45Speaker 4: keeping company with the best in all of college football.
- 30:49Speaker 4: And they just don't look anything like it anymore. That said,
- 30:53Speaker 4: he still could get upset. Anything can happen on any
- 30:56Speaker 4: given Saturday, and so we you know, Husky Sert can't
- 31:00Speaker 4: overlook the Wisconsin Badgers, but they're the most overlookable that
- 31:05Speaker 4: they have been in quite some time. All Right, coming
- 31:07Speaker 4: up next, no cliche keys to victory here on this
- 31:11Speaker 4: Friday Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. We always
- 31:15Speaker 4: kick it around first right here on Chuck and Buck
- 31:18Speaker 4: in the mornings.
- 31:19Speaker 3: Are no cliche keys to victory segment.
- 31:21Speaker 4: You're not allowed to use winning the trenches or all
- 31:25Speaker 4: three phases or the turnover battle. We all understand those
- 31:29Speaker 4: are huge elements to winning football games. But I want
- 31:33Speaker 4: something specific, original from the mouths of the experts that
- 31:37Speaker 4: are Ashley Bucky Shock.
- 31:40Speaker 6: Yeah, well, experts, I'll let you guys give expert opinions.
- 31:45Speaker 6: I'm going to give just what I think. Okay, Yeah,
- 31:47Speaker 6: it's fairly I mean, I think it's pretty cut and dry.
- 31:51Speaker 6: This is they're two different teams. One team is surging,
- 31:55Speaker 6: one team looks like they're a legitimate contender and can
- 31:58Speaker 6: go out and beat anybody. The other team is I
- 32:01Speaker 6: would say, grasping at the hope that everybody rises up
- 32:04Speaker 6: for a division battle. That's basically where I kind of
- 32:08Speaker 6: leave the That's where the Cardinals and their hope this
- 32:13Speaker 6: weekend kind of ends. Now, that could be something we
- 32:15Speaker 6: have seen. These teams play tough, and division games typically are,
- 32:19Speaker 6: but I think it's I think if you can get
- 32:21Speaker 6: pressure on Jacoby Brissett, I think he's going to make mistakes.
- 32:25Speaker 6: I think it's going to be a long day for
- 32:26Speaker 6: their offense, and I think that that's basically all they
- 32:29Speaker 6: have to do. This defense is kind of rocking and
- 32:32Speaker 6: rolling right now. The offense is most certainly capable of
- 32:35Speaker 6: keeping you in a game even if the offense the
- 32:38Speaker 6: defense doesn't play spectacular. But outside of that Tampa Bay game,
- 32:41Speaker 6: the defense has been really good. I think the defense
- 32:43Speaker 6: continues to kind of hold these guys to somewhere around
- 32:46Speaker 6: twenty points and the offense goes way over that.
- 32:48Speaker 3: All right, So pressure on, pressure on Jacoby Brissett.
- 32:51Speaker 2: As cliche ket, that was actually gonna be mine as well.
- 32:54Speaker 5: He was sacked five times against the Cowboys on Monday.
- 32:57Speaker 5: He still managed to have a pretty decent in game.
- 33:00Speaker 5: Obviously they won, but the Cowboys defense is not nearly
- 33:03Speaker 5: as good as the Seahawks defense. He only fumbled one
- 33:06Speaker 5: time in that game, but I think the Seahawks defense
- 33:08Speaker 5: getting well. But I'm just saying for being sacked five times,
- 33:12Speaker 5: and I but again, not a good defense. So I
- 33:16Speaker 5: think when you're dealing with what the Seahawks defense actually brings,
- 33:19Speaker 5: I would expect three more sacks at least, just crush them.
- 33:24Speaker 3: All Right.
- 33:25Speaker 4: It's interesting because look, I expect the Seahawks to win,
- 33:29Speaker 4: and I think that I'd be shocked if we weren't
- 33:33Speaker 4: talking about a victory on Monday and Monday morning quarterback.
- 33:37Speaker 4: But my keys, because Hughes said you have to win
- 33:40Speaker 4: this game yesterday in the roundtable and Bucky is you know,
- 33:46Speaker 4: sounds to me like you're not giving the Cardinals much
- 33:48Speaker 4: of a chance. And yet I wrote down, don't underestimate them.
- 33:52Speaker 2: No, that's good.
- 33:53Speaker 4: The Cardinals have five losses this year, right, three and
- 33:56Speaker 4: five on the year, by one point to San Francisco,
- 34:00Speaker 4: three points to Seattle, one point, four points to Indianapolis,
- 34:06Speaker 4: and four points to Green Bay. So they've lost five
- 34:08Speaker 4: games to four playoff caliber teams, out of those five
- 34:14Speaker 4: by a combined thirteen points.
- 34:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:16Speaker 4: So they have competed with every single team that they've
- 34:21Speaker 4: played and beaten three of them. And so even though
- 34:25Speaker 4: man command, I don't think that the Cardinals match up
- 34:28Speaker 4: with the Seahawks, certainly the way that the Seahawks are
- 34:30Speaker 4: playing right now. I've said this for now years with
- 34:34Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon. They play hard for this guy. I don't
- 34:38Speaker 4: know what it is, but the Arizona Cardinals play hard
- 34:41Speaker 4: and tough every single week. So Jonathan Gannon has introduced
- 34:46Speaker 4: a different sort of mentality to the Arizona Cardinals and
- 34:50Speaker 4: they have not They have not let up once in
- 34:54Speaker 4: that area. So and they're playing better four berset than
- 34:57Speaker 4: they were for Murray. And they're really not good at anything.
- 35:02Speaker 3: But they're not bad at anything.
- 35:04Speaker 4: They're not top ten in any of the major team
- 35:06Speaker 4: statistical categories. They're not bottom ten in any of the
- 35:10Speaker 4: major team statistical categories. So what you're gonna get out
- 35:14Speaker 4: of the Arizona Cardinals is a good, honest, lunch paiale
- 35:17Speaker 4: effort from them. And I know that they sort of
- 35:20Speaker 4: built their reputation about Kurt Warner and high flying offense
- 35:24Speaker 4: and putting a lot of points on the board, and
- 35:26Speaker 4: they've never really shaken that reputation. But this is a
- 35:30Speaker 4: team that grinds it out. They're like a Big ten team.
- 35:33Speaker 4: I mean, they just they want to grind it out
- 35:35Speaker 4: against you and be there in the fourth quarter. And
- 35:38Speaker 4: maybe they don't have finishers, but they certainly play every
- 35:42Speaker 4: team tough that they go up again. So we're gonna
- 35:45Speaker 4: get We're gonna get punched in the mouth, But I
- 35:47Speaker 4: think that we have good counter punches here in Seattle.
- 35:51Speaker 4: So I'm expecting sort of a tight game that the
- 35:54Speaker 4: Seahawks do win by six seven points.
- 35:56Speaker 3: Yeah, but don't underestimate them.
- 35:58Speaker 2: Well, especially at home, we have been very good at Yeah.
- 36:00Speaker 6: I think that they show up with their lunch pail,
- 36:03Speaker 6: but if you punch them in the mouth a couple
- 36:05Speaker 6: of times, I think that they can. I mean, they
- 36:07Speaker 6: also are a team that will play down to They'll
- 36:09Speaker 6: play down to things. They're going to rise to the
- 36:11Speaker 6: occasion and you're gonna have to You're gonna have to
- 36:13Speaker 6: knock them down. They're gonna get back up a couple
- 36:15Speaker 6: of times, but I think you end up knocking them out.
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