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Full Show Podcast: 05 December 2024 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge new
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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a play a store news
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Speaker 1: Dogs'd be.
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Speaker 2: Good Morning New Zealand. It is six a half to five.
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Speaker 2: Great to have your company this Thursday morning. Coming up
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Speaker 2: on the show our lead interview before six beneficiaries have
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Speaker 2: been over or underpaid in quite large numbers. Why international
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Speaker 2: student numbers are up, but why aren't we caning it
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Speaker 2: like the osigs are at pre COVID levels. A major
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Speaker 2: company's CEO has been shot in Manhattan and New York City.
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Speaker 2: It appears to be a targeted attack. Our US correspondent explains,
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Speaker 2: Plus Andrew Hoggard's on the show Chickens Methane Forestry will
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Speaker 2: talk about all of that and why British consumers are
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Speaker 2: pouring milk down the sink.
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Speaker 1: The agenda.
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Speaker 2: It is Thursday, the fifth of December. The chaos continues
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Speaker 2: in South Korea. Martial law lasted just a few hours.
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Speaker 2: But will the president have another crack at it? What
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Speaker 2: position party says?
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Speaker 3: Yes, they will try it again by addressing their shortcomings
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Speaker 3: after they have failed once. When that time comes, We
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Speaker 3: the citizens, along with the Democratic Party of Korea and
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Speaker 3: our lawmakers will step forward and fight to ensure this victory.
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Speaker 2: A weird little period. The impeachment proceedings will start this weekend,
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Speaker 2: and the country's largest union called for a strike until
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Speaker 2: the president resigns. Cuba, we've spoken about this before. Their
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Speaker 2: electrical grid it's collapsed again. Nobody can go to work
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Speaker 2: or school for several days in Cuba at the moment.
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Speaker 2: And the problem, well, it's the same as it was
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Speaker 2: last time. They don't maintain their power plants properly. There's
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Speaker 2: more demand for air conditioning, and there's US sanctions limiting
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Speaker 2: fuel supply. The French prime minister is facing a vote
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Speaker 2: of no confidence. It's about to be by by Bayer.
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Speaker 2: The French Prime minister set to last about as long
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Speaker 2: as a croissant at breakfast, which is not very long
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Speaker 2: at all.
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Speaker 4: Based on what the parties that depose these motions are saying, yeah, mathematically,
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Speaker 4: it seems like it's going to go through. For me,
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Speaker 4: the most important issue is not that much that the
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Speaker 4: government will be turned down, because that's something that could
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Speaker 4: have happened anyways. When you have such a diviated assembly
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Speaker 4: but is that we are not going to have a
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Speaker 4: budget voided by the end of the year.
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Speaker 2: So the National Assembly opened just over an hour ago
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Speaker 2: with a result expected by a round eight o'clock this morning,
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Speaker 2: So Michael bring you that. Later on a news talk
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Speaker 2: said bad Spotify wrapped is out Taylor Swifts taking it out.
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Speaker 2: She's been named the most played artist globally and in
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Speaker 2: New Zealand for the second year in a row. Music
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Speaker 2: sound a little bit boring.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I suppose she has some more upbeat ones, doesn't she.
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Speaker 2: She pulled in twenty six point six billion streams, followed
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Speaker 2: by the weekend Bad Bunny Drake and Billie Eilish out
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Speaker 2: most streamed local Artists six sixty, followed by lab on.
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Speaker 1: Your Radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with Ryan
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Speaker 1: Bridge and It's fist City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and
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Speaker 1: a playing store news talk z be.
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Speaker 2: I hope you're having a one full morning so far.
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Speaker 2: Well that something just started, really, hasn't it, And it's
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Speaker 2: nine minutes after five. I am heading off next week.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be filling in for Heather on drives,
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Speaker 2: so this will be my second to last show with
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Speaker 2: you all, and I must say it's been an absolute
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Speaker 2: privilege to be with you for the last five months
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Speaker 2: and I look forward to rejoining you next year. Sometime.
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Speaker 2: I'll have more on that after the end of the
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Speaker 2: show tomorrow. This morning, there is a review being announced
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Speaker 2: of the Commerce Act. This is from Andrew Bailey. He's
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Speaker 2: had another glass of wine and he's ready to get
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Speaker 2: into some work. So he is the Commerce Minister and
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Speaker 2: he's at the Consumer Fares Minister. The Commerce Commission needs
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Speaker 2: more teeth. The problem is what they call creeping acquisitions. Now,
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Speaker 2: what is a creeping acquisition? I hear you ask companies
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Speaker 2: making small acquisitions which don't affect the makeup of a
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Speaker 2: whole market they operate in on their own. Now here's
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Speaker 2: an example for you. Medical centers. You know, you get that,
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Speaker 2: and veterinary clinics, some physiotherapy, dentistry businesses, lots of little ones,
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Speaker 2: and then you'll get a big company coming in buying
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Speaker 2: them all up and so on. It's so micro that
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Speaker 2: it doesn't You wouldn't have your ComCom coming in and
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Speaker 2: saying nay to anything like that because it's too minor.
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Speaker 2: But cumulatively, does it have an impact and if it does,
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Speaker 2: then does the ComCom need some more powers? That is
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Speaker 2: basically what Andrew Bailey is looking at. What they've announced
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Speaker 2: they're going to look at this morning, that cumulative effect.
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Speaker 2: Ten minutes after five, Bryan Bridge. So we're going to
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Speaker 2: talk to Andrew Hoggart next SS, the Associate Agriculture Minister.
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Speaker 2: There was so much to talk to him about. He's
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Speaker 2: also buying security minister, so of course we'll get an
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Speaker 2: update on the chicken situation in Otago, also the methane situation,
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Speaker 2: the forestry situation and and the pouring of the milk
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Speaker 2: down the sink in the UK. Lots to talk to
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Speaker 2: him about next. I found my mind seeing is saying.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on the early
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Speaker 1: edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds at a
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Speaker 2: Sidby, We've got some core logic numbers out on housing
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Speaker 2: will get too shortly as well. Trump's pick for Secretary
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Speaker 2: of Defense. This is Pete his guest. He is embroiled
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Speaker 2: in controversy. It's to do with drinking, it's to do
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Speaker 2: with his treatment of women. So will there be another
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Speaker 2: of Trump's picks four cabinet fall by the wayside. We'll
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Speaker 2: talk to our US correspondent about that. Just before I
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Speaker 2: didn't und quarter to six this morning, Bryan Bridge. So
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Speaker 2: our methane emissions targets may be lowered. A government appointed
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Speaker 2: scientific panel has found by reducing our twenty to fifty
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Speaker 2: methane emissions targets, we could still meet the goal of
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Speaker 2: not seeing additional warming above twenty seventeen levels. The Climate
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Speaker 2: Change Commission has warned that there is no evidence to
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Speaker 2: support changing the existing target of up to forty seven percent.
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Speaker 2: The government is now going over the panel's advice to
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Speaker 2: decide on a new target from next year. Andrew Hoggart
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Speaker 2: is the Associate Minister for Agriculture. He's with me this morning. Andrew,
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Andrew, Yeah, good morning right, good
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Speaker 2: to have you on the show. Minister. Tell me are
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Speaker 2: you are you basically saying you will love the targets.
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Speaker 5: No, this is just the scientific advice that we've received
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Speaker 5: and decisions will be made next year. We know from
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Speaker 5: my previous role my thoughts credy and where the target
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Speaker 5: should be. So yeah, this is just scientific advice to
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Speaker 5: inform the policy decision that government will be making.
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Speaker 2: Do you concede that it's not as good for the
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Speaker 2: planet but it's better for farmers?
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Speaker 5: Well no, I mean what the science is saying here
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Speaker 5: is that no additional warming mean from no additional warming, Basically,
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Speaker 5: the farming sector needs to reduce on what the world's
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Speaker 5: currently doing by fifteen percent, or if everyone else in
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Speaker 5: the world steps up, then we have to move up
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Speaker 5: to twenty four percent. But that's the sort of information
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Speaker 5: it's come back from this report. And you know, I
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Speaker 5: would think that our farmer is doing our part, not
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Speaker 5: adding to additional warming is what they want to be doing.
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Speaker 5: You know, parents accords all about limiting additional warming for
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Speaker 5: one point five, we're saying for New Zealand agriculture, what's
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Speaker 5: the number for zero?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? This is the difference though, isn't it. It's the
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Speaker 2: expectation that the sort of parameters that have been set
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Speaker 2: for this because it's about not exceeding twenty seventeen levels
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Speaker 2: versus the current targets, which are more about cooling the planet.
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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, well, no, the current targets are about
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Speaker 5: stopping warming to one and a half an extra one
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Speaker 5: and a half degrees, And so we're saying We're not
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Speaker 5: going to add to that at all. Is what this?
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Speaker 5: You know, this question is asked, what is the number
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Speaker 5: farmers need to achieve to say that, hey, we haven't
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Speaker 5: added to the problem.
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Speaker 2: You know, the farm land use changes that you've announced,
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Speaker 2: do you basically are you basically saying to farmers you
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Speaker 2: can do what you want with your land, but don't
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Speaker 2: expect carbon credits if it's productive farming land.
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Speaker 5: That's pretty much in a nutshell.
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Speaker 2: Yes, two hundred thousand hectares of productive sheep and beef
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Speaker 2: we've converted in the past five years. Do you have
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Speaker 2: an idea of what this change might mean for that
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Speaker 2: number going forward?
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Speaker 5: Well, obviously it'll reduce it. Then in terms of the
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Speaker 5: exact number, No, I wouldn't have that off the top
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Speaker 5: of my head, but it would sort of. You know,
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Speaker 5: what we're seeing has been that the main driver for
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Speaker 5: a forestation has been the carbon price, and that's what's
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Speaker 5: driven a lot of their sales and changes of blanket
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Speaker 5: planting of farmland into forestry. And that's what's occurred. And
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Speaker 5: for a number of years now we've been hearing from
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Speaker 5: those real communities massive concern about going to the land
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Speaker 5: effectively into carbon forestry where there's no jobs, it's just
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Speaker 5: locked up and becomes a bit of a fire risk
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Speaker 5: and real concern to their community.
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Speaker 2: Minister, just putting your biosecurity head on for a second.
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Speaker 2: What's the latest do you have testing results from that
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Speaker 2: second Dunedin farm that was being.
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Speaker 5: Looked at no When I wake up, I checked my
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Speaker 5: phone and there was nothing came through overnight, So it
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Speaker 5: should be at some point we'll get the update on
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Speaker 5: all those other farms, which will give us a real
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Speaker 5: indication as to what the spread is and how quickly
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Speaker 5: we can tidy this.
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Speaker 2: Up if it's confirmed, like if it's if it's there,
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Speaker 2: is that really bad?
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Speaker 5: It'll depend on whether or not the So this is
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Speaker 5: the Seeking farm south of Dnean, The question in my
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Speaker 5: mind will be do we have a trace between those
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Speaker 5: two properties? Is there a link between them now? If
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Speaker 5: we can't find a link between them, and also there
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Speaker 5: is some difference in the sequencing in terms of the
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Speaker 5: DNA of the disease. That then adds another variable to
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Speaker 5: the resk of is there singing in the natural environment
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Speaker 5: that's causing this?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and good to know. Andrew Haggard, thank you
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Speaker 2: very much. For your time this morning, really appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: The Associate Minister for Agriculture there on a range of
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Speaker 2: issues just gone eighteen minutes after five. I will tell
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Speaker 2: you why this particular cattle feed in the UK is
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Speaker 2: causing some consternation with consumers. They literally pouring milk down
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Speaker 2: the sink and the toilet and filming themselves doing it.
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Speaker 2: I don't know why you pour it down the toilet,
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Speaker 2: just like you can make the same point pouring it
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Speaker 2: down the sink and anyway. I'll tell you more about
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Speaker 2: that later on in the show. Coming up next, we
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Speaker 2: are talking our student numbers. International student numbers. They are
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Speaker 2: a big number for US, our fourth largest export earner.
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Speaker 2: But why aren't we caning it like the Aussies?
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Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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Speaker 2: It'd be twenty one after five. Universities will be celebrating
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Speaker 2: the international student numbers are up seventy three thousand enrollments
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Speaker 2: between January and August this year. That's up twenty four
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Speaker 2: percent compared to the same period last year. The numbers
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Speaker 2: are up six percent on twenty twenty three totals already
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Speaker 2: still not back to pre COVID levels, though we are
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Speaker 2: seven percent shy of that. Jeff bilbra Is with Education
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Speaker 2: New Zealand. This is a Crown entity set up to
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Speaker 2: promote us basically as a study destination to the world. Jeff,
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Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, How are you today?
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Speaker 6: Thanks leaving me on the show.
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Speaker 2: Great to have you here. This is obviously a big
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Speaker 2: export earner for us. Why yes, the numbers are good,
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Speaker 2: but why aren't we back to you or doing what
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Speaker 2: the old things are doing and beating their pre COVID levels.
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Speaker 6: Oh well, the first thing to note is that in
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Speaker 6: just two terms that we've had more enrollments than we
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Speaker 6: had in all of last year. So that's a good
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Speaker 6: thing to celebrate. Regarding the Australians, what happened and to
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Speaker 6: the Canadians to some extent, what happened during the pandemic
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Speaker 6: is both countries decided to use international students as are
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Speaker 6: economic consentive to help their economy go to economies, and
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Speaker 6: they both developed what were quite welcoming policies for international students.
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Speaker 6: Sadly that had not good effects in both countries. And
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Speaker 6: what we're now seen is both Canada and Australia are
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Speaker 6: bringing in caps to international students. In Canada, the student
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Speaker 6: experience was particularly poor and there were reports of students
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Speaker 6: having to use food beats and some sleeping rough and
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Speaker 6: in Australia they lost public support for international education. Now
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Speaker 6: we haven't had either of those experiences in New Zealand.
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Speaker 6: Our research suggests that over eighty percent of international students
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Speaker 6: rate their experience very highly, and by far the bulk
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Speaker 6: majority of New Zealand is more than seventy percent. Still
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Speaker 6: have very positive experiences and positive perceptions of New Zealand.
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Speaker 6: So both Australia and Canada had very welcoming policies. They
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Speaker 6: got lots of students and it's caused some problems shutting down.
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Speaker 2: But they did get the cash too, didn't they, you know?
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Speaker 2: And that's the outside to it. I suppose will those
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Speaker 2: cats that you're talking about that Australia is going to
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Speaker 2: put in, will they benefit us?
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Speaker 6: Absolutely? So what's happened now is that the Australian and
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Speaker 6: the Canadian policies look a lot more like us. So
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Speaker 6: if you think of it as a running race, they
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Speaker 6: might have had a bit of a head start before,
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Speaker 6: but now they're back at the starting line alongside us,
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Speaker 6: and so we're starting to see a lot of interest.
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Speaker 6: The agent networks that we have offshore teams work with
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Speaker 6: them daily. They are telling us that there's a lot
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Speaker 6: of interest in New Zealand. We'll do a brand health
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Speaker 6: monitor and we've just got some initial results. I can't
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Speaker 6: give you the numbers, but I can tell you that
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Speaker 6: it's positive and it looks like some of the awareness
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Speaker 6: that we're getting in some of the interests is at
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Speaker 6: the expense of the Australian So definitely it's a good
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Speaker 6: period for New Zealand. But I think we need to
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Speaker 6: recognize that the sort of the steady growth that we've
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Speaker 6: had over the past three years since the border has
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Speaker 6: reopened has been to the benefit of both the sector
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Speaker 6: and the students, and the sector has been able to
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Speaker 6: build their capacity back steadily and the students experience has
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Speaker 6: continued to be good through that period.
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Speaker 2: Without a sort of rip, shit and bust thing like
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Speaker 2: Australia and Canada have done. Jeff, my words, not yours, Jeff. Jeff,
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Speaker 2: thank you very much for being on.
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Speaker 6: The very much that right.
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Speaker 2: Jeff Pilbre who is with Education New Zealand. It is
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Speaker 2: You're on News Talks HEB twenty six after five. Should
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Speaker 2: the government buy something just because it's made here in
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Speaker 2: New Zealand, even if it costs us more. That's basically
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Speaker 2: the question you've got to ask yourself after the latest
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Speaker 2: wool snub. This time it was kying of order saying
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Speaker 2: no in bold text, by the way to key, we
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Speaker 2: made woolen carpet for state houses and yes to synthetic
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Speaker 2: imported stuff. Why it's cheaper. We've been here before. You'll
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Speaker 2: remember the school classroom's same story. And it happens despite
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Speaker 2: a coalition agreement deal with New Zealand first ensuring where practical,
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Speaker 2: and that might be the caveat that KAO is using
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Speaker 2: here to get out of wool, that the local product
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Speaker 2: be used in government procurement and in government buildings. But Ko,
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Speaker 2: like a good kid in class, has been listening to
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Speaker 2: the government's main lecture, which has cut costs. Wool is
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Speaker 2: thirty percent more expensive on average, and carpets for state
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Speaker 2: houses than the nylon equivalent, But the industry says KO
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Speaker 2: and the deal could revitalize the flailing product and its fortunes.
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Speaker 2: So we have a clash of competing priorities cost versus localism.
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Speaker 2: The answer to the question posed at the start of
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Speaker 2: this is another question, which is never It's kind of
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Speaker 2: annoying when people do that, But here we are what
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Speaker 2: is the net benefit to New Zealand's economy as a
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Speaker 2: whole of government buying wool carpet, including the jobs that
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Speaker 2: you would create, including the spending that you would encourage,
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Speaker 2: and the increased cost of wool on the taxpayer. That
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Speaker 2: surely is your number. That is the number that you
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Speaker 2: would base a decision on whether to use a New
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Speaker 2: Zealand made product over a synthetic, imported equivalent. Frame Bridge
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Speaker 2: News Talk SEATB Lots more to come. We're going to
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Speaker 2: go to our US correspondence. Just before a quarter to
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Speaker 2: six this morning. There's a health boss, the guy who
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Speaker 2: runs one of America's largest health insurance companies, has been
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Speaker 2: shot dead in Manhattan, and they think it was a
16:45
Speaker 2: targeted attack. So we'll find out more about that. Also,
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Speaker 2: we're going to talk beneficiaries and why they aren't being
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Speaker 2: paid the right amounts. Just before six in our lead
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Speaker 2: twenty nine after five Newstalk set b skin kind of lay,
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Speaker 2: but the ladies wasn't mind. Oh my good lord, some
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Speaker 2: change some I'm gonna pull me up a double shot
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Speaker 2: of whiskey. They on me a tack.
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Speaker 7: Damn goody history.
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Speaker 2: There's a part of downtown near Fishtry. Everybody had the
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Speaker 2: barket doumba, tell me up a duble shot of liskey.
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Speaker 8: They're on me.
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Speaker 2: Attacked down day that the body double man you. Everybody had,
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Speaker 2: everybody had by.
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Speaker 7: You, everybody at.
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Speaker 1: By the first word on the News of the Day
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Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's
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Speaker 1: Furniture Bits and a playing store. US talks in me.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Moselle, welcome to your day. It is the
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Speaker 2: fifth of December. Great to have your company. We're going
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Speaker 2: to a US correspondent about quarter six this morning, Cape
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Speaker 2: Fisher is standing by Racardo Me and India's march on
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Speaker 2: why beneficiaries aren't being paid what they should, some of
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Speaker 2: them resulting in debts, which is never a good thing.
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Speaker 2: Also this morning, a really interesting story from the UK.
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Speaker 2: Social media users are pouring out milk into their sincson
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Speaker 2: into their toilets, and filming themselves doing this. And it's
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Speaker 2: all over an additive, a cattle feed additive that reduces
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Speaker 2: methane emissions from cows. And this is something that's going
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Speaker 2: to happen more and more as countries like ours try
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Speaker 2: and reduce our impact on the climate. Blah blah blah.
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Speaker 2: Bovia is what it's called, and the consumers are going
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Speaker 2: there's a trial going on. It's made its way into
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Speaker 2: milk which is being sold in supermarkets over in the UK, Tescos,
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Speaker 2: et cetera. And so these consumers are seeing social media
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Speaker 2: posts about it, claiming that it's harmful to human health
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Speaker 2: and harmful to the animals, et cetera. And it's, by
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Speaker 2: the way, a product that has not been a pre
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Speaker 2: moved in New Zealand yet, so you don't have to
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Speaker 2: worry about it. But over there they are worried about it,
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Speaker 2: and people are pouring it into the sink and pouring
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Speaker 2: it into the toilet to make it kind of a
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Speaker 2: stand against it. It is interesting, isn't it, Because we're
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Speaker 2: going to use more and more of these technologies to
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Speaker 2: alter the behavior the natural behaviors of cows our dairy
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Speaker 2: herd to try and reduce their emissions. Basically try and
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Speaker 2: hold in a fart or a burp, which is, as
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Speaker 2: you and I know, never a good thing, is it,
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Speaker 2: And it doesn't feel like a healthy thing to do,
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Speaker 2: but apparently better for the planet. So anyway, there's a
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Speaker 2: bit of a tension going on. They're twenty two away
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Speaker 2: from six bird flu. We're waiting on test results in
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Speaker 2: that second farm in Otago. Andrew Hoggard, who is the
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Speaker 2: Associate Agricultural Minister, was on this show twenty minutes ago.
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Speaker 2: He said he hasn't heard anything overnight yet but Colm
19:47
Speaker 2: proct isn't a needed for us this morning column. There
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Speaker 2: are answers expected on this today. Yeah, that's correct to Ryan.
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Speaker 9: It's just exactly whether or not the second Otago farm
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Speaker 9: has bird flu among its chickens. Look, MPIs continuing to
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Speaker 9: call those eighty thousand birds at a Mainland poultry managed
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Speaker 9: monarchy farm which confirmed the disease on Sunday, and then
20:08
Speaker 9: yesterday it halted all movements of materials from another small
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Speaker 9: farm near Dunedin after a number of chicken deaths there.
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Speaker 9: Mpiss that's standard biosecurity process for when unusual deaths are reported.
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Speaker 9: They say testings underway and it's not confirmed to be
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Speaker 9: part of the bird flu outbreak at this point. Mainland
20:27
Speaker 9: Poultry is also testing all at South Island farms, with
20:29
Speaker 9: results due next week.
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Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather today? Got a strong win?
20:33
Speaker 2: Watched today?
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Speaker 9: Fine, but sol west gales gusts of one hundred k's
20:37
Speaker 9: today for Dunedin easing this evening the high twenty two.
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Speaker 2: All right, thank you, and clear than christ Church. Clear
20:42
Speaker 2: it was guilty for the death of young Fai Bao.
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Speaker 10: It certainly was. Ryan Chinese national Tindrin Chow has been
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Speaker 10: found guilty of murdering the christ Church real estate agent
20:52
Speaker 10: and mother of one back in July of twenty twenty three.
20:56
Speaker 10: She was last seen anti property in Hornby, where she
20:59
Speaker 10: was meeting with Chow for a private property viewing. It
21:02
Speaker 10: was there that the Crown said he attacked her. He
21:04
Speaker 10: then dragged her to the boot of his car, drove
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Speaker 10: to the outskirts of christ Church and killed her. Her
21:10
Speaker 10: body was found in a shallow grave on some private farmland,
21:13
Speaker 10: but not until more than a year later Crown evidence
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Speaker 10: sowed the two phones were together on the day Bell disappeared,
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Speaker 10: including at that grave site. Their blood was also detected
21:23
Speaker 10: at the Hornby property Chow's car. There was also DNA
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Speaker 10: found on her destroyed phone. Chow, though claimed all of
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Speaker 10: the evidence or much of the evidence was fake and
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Speaker 10: was not enough to persuade the jury. He will be
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Speaker 10: sentenced to a for murder on March seven.
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Speaker 2: Sounded like a really complicated trial. How's the weather today,
21:41
Speaker 2: c there.
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Speaker 10: A nice day for christ Church? Fine, westerly is turning
21:44
Speaker 10: easterly then dying out a maximum of twenty seven.
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Speaker 2: Thank you Maxis and Wellington.
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Speaker 7: Max.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna be a bit of a grinch on the
21:52
Speaker 2: staff Christmas parties for government agencies.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it certainly seems like going to the days of
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Speaker 7: extravagant work Christmas parties unsurprising consider during the government's instruction
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Speaker 7: to the public sector the new Ministry for Regulation, for instance,
22:05
Speaker 7: they're asking staff to bring a plate of food themselves,
22:09
Speaker 7: drinks provided by senior leadership. The Health Ministry doing an
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Speaker 7: in house function worth less than ten dollars per person,
22:15
Speaker 7: including non alcoholic drinks and karaoke, which I'm not sure
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Speaker 7: is the right combination for late afternoon Euphoria Stafford to
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Speaker 7: a FTI spending seven dollars themselves just to attend their
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Speaker 7: own offsite party where they pay for their own drinks.
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Speaker 7: Crown Law doing something similar, And that's the sense everywhere
22:33
Speaker 7: have scaled about Christmas. Essentially, even at n z B Wellington,
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Speaker 7: we're going in house a couple of free drinks here,
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Speaker 7: food three to six in the afternoon in the office.
22:42
Speaker 7: Basically we're sorting ourselves out this Christmas.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the same thing here. I think I'm not even
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Speaker 2: going to go to it anymore. I can't here.
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Speaker 7: Our big stars tend to avoid such things, don't it.
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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not Mike. I know, I know he won't
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Speaker 2: be going anywhere near a Christmas Paddy. I would happily go,
22:58
Speaker 2: but I've got work and so I can't. Seven dollars
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Speaker 2: you said, one agency seven dollars for food and where
23:03
Speaker 2: are they going? Macas well?
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Speaker 7: Exactly? Well, I think it's just for venue higher to
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Speaker 7: cover the venue higher, and then when they're there they
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Speaker 7: pay for their own drinks and food.
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Speaker 2: How's your were there?
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Speaker 5: Uh?
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Speaker 7: Cloudy with a bit of rizzulve clearing to find this
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Speaker 7: afternoon Strong Norwesteries twenty two to the High in the
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Speaker 7: central city.
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Speaker 8: All right, Neva's and not Neva Christmas Party l starts
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Speaker 8: next week, isn't it next bright?
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Speaker 2: No, I'm not going.
23:25
Speaker 8: But it's two pm or two thirty pm until four. Yes,
23:29
Speaker 8: well that's by naptime. I cannot go.
23:31
Speaker 2: No, And I was going to go like I would
23:33
Speaker 2: have gone, but I just have to do drive on
23:36
Speaker 2: that day, so I can't go. But the thing is,
23:39
Speaker 2: they're not what they used to be.
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Speaker 11: No.
23:40
Speaker 2: It used to be about who was getting wasted and
23:43
Speaker 2: who was sleeping with who, And that doesn't happen anymore.
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Speaker 8: It happens from two to But the big thing is
23:51
Speaker 8: the costumes. Everyone here go. If you don't wear a costume,
23:55
Speaker 8: you might as.
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Speaker 2: Well not go.
23:57
Speaker 8: They go burg on the costumes.
23:59
Speaker 2: What is there a theme?
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Speaker 8: There is a theme.
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Speaker 2: It's all right.
24:04
Speaker 8: If they do a seme, I just just rock up
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Speaker 8: in my vegetable costume or something like that. Even if
24:09
Speaker 8: it's summertime. I'll even go drist up as a carrot.
24:13
Speaker 2: Speaking of summer, how is the weather in Auckland today?
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Speaker 8: Wellhi, twenty four, hasn't it been really really hot? Muggy,
24:20
Speaker 8: very muggy. So we've got cloudy conditions here in Auckland today.
24:23
Speaker 8: Scattered light rain which will be welcomed. Apparently that's going
24:27
Speaker 8: to arrive this evening, but slip slops slay up twenty
24:29
Speaker 8: four to.
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Speaker 2: High Tilliam never thank you very much for that's seventeen
24:32
Speaker 2: away from six News Talks VB.
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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance. Peace of mind
24:38
Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.
24:40
Speaker 2: I tell you what your house is worth in just
24:42
Speaker 2: a few moments. Just gone cowarded to six on News
24:44
Speaker 2: Talks EDB right now though Cape Fisher, our US correspondent
24:47
Speaker 2: is with us this morning. The CEO of United Healthcare
24:50
Speaker 2: has been shot dead in Manhattan. The NYPD currently holding
24:54
Speaker 2: a presser. They say this is not a random a shooting.
24:58
Speaker 2: This appears to be a targeted a tech kate, what's
25:02
Speaker 2: the lightest.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, as you say, LISS, are about to give a
25:06
Speaker 12: news conference in New York to get more details because
25:09
Speaker 12: at the moment things are pretty sketchy. We know that
25:13
Speaker 12: Brian Thompson was shot dead on the street outside the
25:17
Speaker 12: Hilton Hotel in Midtown Manhattan just before seven am local time.
25:22
Speaker 12: He was making his way to the hotel for an
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Speaker 12: investor's meeting. We're told everybody there is in shock, as
25:30
Speaker 12: our staff of the hotel. As you say, police think
25:33
Speaker 12: this was targeted and not something random to the Mayor
25:37
Speaker 12: of New York, Eric Adams, has tried to reassure New
25:40
Speaker 12: Yorkers that it is safe to be out on the streets.
25:43
Speaker 12: But clearly a shocking occurrent to kind of seems to
25:46
Speaker 12: be some sort of execution in the early hours of
25:50
Speaker 12: this morning. He was wearing a hooded black garment and
25:53
Speaker 12: escaped on a bike heading down an alleyway towards Central Park.
25:58
Speaker 12: But other than that, we still don't know what the
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Speaker 12: motive could be. The police press conference is just starting
26:03
Speaker 12: as we speak.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could say they've got a fine number up
26:06
Speaker 2: for tips, so they're obviously wanting people to dobbin what
26:09
Speaker 2: happens and.
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Speaker 12: A ten thousand dollars reward.
26:12
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, sounds quite serious. Let's go to Trump and
26:16
Speaker 2: has picked the Secretary of Defense. There are allegations of
26:19
Speaker 2: drinking and treatment of women. Here, is this going to
26:21
Speaker 2: be another one that falls by the wayside.
26:24
Speaker 12: It's certainly looking very tense at the moment as to
26:27
Speaker 12: whether he can hang on to this. This is Pete
26:29
Speaker 12: heski the former Fox News presenter, but there are many
26:33
Speaker 12: allegations about him being drunk on the job and about
26:38
Speaker 12: potential allegations of misconduct towards women, to the extent that
26:44
Speaker 12: Donald Trump has apparently started to look for a potential replacement,
26:47
Speaker 12: including his former rival for the presidential nomination, that is
26:52
Speaker 12: Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida. They have had not
26:55
Speaker 12: the closest of relationships, given that they were fighting each
26:58
Speaker 12: other for the presidential nomination, and so it has surprised
27:01
Speaker 12: some people that Donald Trump is looking to Ron DeSantis,
27:04
Speaker 12: But at the moment, Pete Heskiff is still the nominee.
27:07
Speaker 12: He's on Capitol Hill today trying to persuade some of
27:10
Speaker 12: those senators who are unsure about him that he is
27:13
Speaker 12: the man for the job. And his mother would have
27:15
Speaker 12: even been on TV today trying to say that he
27:19
Speaker 12: is a great guy and not to worry, even though
27:23
Speaker 12: back in twenty eighteen she apparently emailed him and told
27:25
Speaker 12: him he was an abuser of women. Oh yes, God
27:28
Speaker 12: takes that back and has apologized. But you know it's
27:32
Speaker 12: not looking great, no.
27:33
Speaker 2: And we'll never good. If you need to call your
27:35
Speaker 2: mum up to come out and do a presser for you, Kate,
27:38
Speaker 2: thank you for that, Kate Fisher. Are you is correspondent
27:40
Speaker 2: to just gone twelve minutes away from six Bryan Bridge.
27:43
Speaker 2: Shearly one and four beneficiaries are being paid incorrectly. This
27:46
Speaker 2: according to an annual report from the Ministry for Social Development.
27:49
Speaker 2: It found only seventy seven point six percent of clients
27:52
Speaker 2: had their entitlement correctly assist in twenty three twenty four.
27:55
Speaker 2: That is worse than the previous year's result, which was
27:58
Speaker 2: eighty two point seven percent. Ricardom as much as the
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Speaker 2: Green Party's Sarcial Development spokesperstings with us this morning, we
28:03
Speaker 2: kin'd of more than a good morning. Well, this is
28:07
Speaker 2: obviously not good. And the worst part of this is
28:10
Speaker 2: that if you're a beneficiary and you get overpaid, then
28:14
Speaker 2: you have a debt that you have to pay back.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right. And so what often happens is that
28:20
Speaker 11: you could be overpaid by say it could be you know,
28:23
Speaker 11: you know, fifteen dollars each week, but that accumulates and
28:26
Speaker 11: if MSc picks that up way later than the line,
28:30
Speaker 11: you could end up then slat with a you know,
28:32
Speaker 11: thousands of dollars worth of debt from overpayments for something
28:35
Speaker 11: that wasn't really your fault. MSDY couldn't even tell us
28:39
Speaker 11: that they would guarantee that if it was their fault,
28:42
Speaker 11: they would not then slap someone with a massive death
28:45
Speaker 11: later thunder line, that means that pushes people further down
28:49
Speaker 11: the poverty line and in a hardship as they have
28:51
Speaker 11: to repay it.
28:52
Speaker 2: The fault thing is crucial because it, as you say,
28:55
Speaker 2: will determine who might be responsible. But isn't this just
28:58
Speaker 2: a too hard basket thing because you've got somebody who's
29:01
Speaker 2: working irregular hours, thereby changing what their entitlement to the
29:05
Speaker 2: benefit might be. And every week you've got to basically
29:09
Speaker 2: update MSD with how many hours you've worked, otherwise you'll
29:12
Speaker 2: be overpaid.
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Speaker 11: And part of the problem is particularly for people who
29:16
Speaker 11: are in casual work or moving in and out of work,
29:20
Speaker 11: is that we have an updated and haven't improved the
29:23
Speaker 11: system that a lot of people, for example, move from
29:28
Speaker 11: being on a benefit into part time work. And because
29:30
Speaker 11: of the way that your benefit effectively obeys, yes, you
29:34
Speaker 11: do have that moment in which it's really difficult for
29:37
Speaker 11: a beneficiary to be adjusting those things equally. It's difficile
29:40
Speaker 11: for the working and competitive as well.
29:42
Speaker 2: It's so inefficient. The whole thing sounds so inefficient. You
29:45
Speaker 2: have to pick up the phone and ring them and
29:46
Speaker 2: tell them what your ours are that week, what is
29:48
Speaker 2: your solution.
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Speaker 11: So there's two things here. If you're listed benefits above
29:53
Speaker 11: the poverty line and a lot of people to live
29:55
Speaker 11: with dignity work and income case managers actually wouldn't have
29:58
Speaker 11: to spend so much time delivering things like hardship and
30:01
Speaker 11: emergency grants. They could be focusing on the basics like
30:04
Speaker 11: getting benefit entitlements rights.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the thing is, then do also make work
30:08
Speaker 2: look less attractive? You know what I mean?
30:11
Speaker 11: Well, there's no actually, there's no evidence of spaces for that.
30:13
Speaker 11: If anything, Actually, when you have people living way below
30:17
Speaker 11: the poverty line, you make it harder for them to
30:19
Speaker 11: find work. That's been married and researched across many countries
30:22
Speaker 11: where they have similar welfare systems. The other part is
30:25
Speaker 11: that we need to make our abatement rates better. So
30:28
Speaker 11: this is how much or you lose your benefit when
30:31
Speaker 11: you enter work. If we make that a lot more stable,
30:34
Speaker 11: it means you wouldn't have a super complicated welfare system
30:37
Speaker 11: that even case managers at work and then come struggle
30:39
Speaker 11: to understand RACARTDA.
30:40
Speaker 2: What about an app? I mean, why have these bureaucrats
30:43
Speaker 2: not got a simple app that you can log in
30:46
Speaker 2: and you can punch And I've done twenty seven hours
30:48
Speaker 2: this week. Last week I did twenty six. You know,
30:51
Speaker 2: why can't we make this simple?
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Speaker 11: Well, part of the issue is that successive governments have
30:57
Speaker 11: tried to make the IT systems better acquires an upfront investment,
31:02
Speaker 11: and right now we've got a government that actually is
31:04
Speaker 11: refusing to put enough money to update the IT systems
31:07
Speaker 11: from working income that are frankly decades and decades old.
31:10
Speaker 11: All right, well, you're transported to the eighties or well.
31:14
Speaker 2: I mean obviously the last government had the same approach,
31:16
Speaker 2: otherwise we wouldn't still be living in the eighties. Ricardo,
31:19
Speaker 2: thank you very much for being on the show. I
31:21
Speaker 2: appreciate Ricarverman in India's March talking there about nearly one
31:23
Speaker 2: in four beneficiaries being paid incorrectly. You're on news Talks,
31:26
Speaker 2: Hebb get ahead of the headlines.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge, you for twenty twenty four on early edition
31:34
Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture bids and a playing store.
31:37
Speaker 2: News talk ZIDB. It is six away from six news talks. Heb.
31:40
Speaker 2: We had Andrew Hoggart on the program just after five
31:43
Speaker 2: this morning. He said he still hasn't had any text
31:45
Speaker 2: updates on that second farm. This is to do with
31:48
Speaker 2: the bird flow outbreak in Otago. He hasn't had any
31:50
Speaker 2: updates over night on the second farm. Testing from that
31:53
Speaker 2: farm will be crucial into how this works going forward.
31:56
Speaker 2: He's expecting something later today. It has just gone five
31:59
Speaker 2: away from six and John just talks Marke's next Good Morning, Mike.
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Speaker 13: Isn't the saddest saddest story of the day the Christmas
32:08
Speaker 13: parties in the public service. It's like read through the departments.
32:12
Speaker 13: If you read through each head it is it is pathetic.
32:17
Speaker 2: And do you know there's a there's a social fundraising
32:19
Speaker 2: committee for one of these departments, the Crown. Can you
32:22
Speaker 2: imagine Debra from the Crown Laws exactly? Social committee, Jessica.
32:26
Speaker 2: And so there's a couple of them. The best one,
32:29
Speaker 2: and I can't remember which one it is, somebody in
32:31
Speaker 2: management is actually buying some drinks for the staff. And
32:35
Speaker 2: the worst one, I think is you've got to bring
32:37
Speaker 2: seven dollars along. I don't know what do you I mean?
32:40
Speaker 2: I said it is seven dollars. Then the ginger, the
32:45
Speaker 2: giant jinger machine. I feel bad. The thing is, if
32:49
Speaker 2: we're telling workers state employees to come back to the office,
32:53
Speaker 2: then you have to.
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Speaker 13: It is a funny thing, isn't it, Because I mean,
32:57
Speaker 13: as you well know, I dislike most of the people
33:00
Speaker 13: around here, and so therefore I don't want to be
33:01
Speaker 13: part of a social function, so I'd be happy. But
33:04
Speaker 13: and you can also understand, you know, given the climate,
33:06
Speaker 13: the moment you have a party or a function, everyone goes, well,
33:09
Speaker 13: how much does that cost?
33:10
Speaker 2: And have paper?
33:11
Speaker 13: And I get all of that, But when you read
33:12
Speaker 13: it as this list, it's got this tragic kind of
33:16
Speaker 13: and you can have seven dollars and this twelve dollars
33:19
Speaker 13: for you and bring an own plate and bring your
33:22
Speaker 13: own drink, so you turn up literally with a six pack.
33:24
Speaker 2: Under your arm, and some lammington thing is they probably
33:27
Speaker 2: would The parties aren't funny anymore? Wouldn't you drink the
33:31
Speaker 2: six beers you can have too? It's everyone's non alcoholic,
33:34
Speaker 2: and who's no one sleeping with and anyone else? What's
33:37
Speaker 2: the fun is that? Is that was?
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Speaker 13: Is that what happened across where you were at the
33:40
Speaker 13: old place.
33:43
Speaker 2: About It was a Cispit come Christmas.
33:49
Speaker 13: Anyway, Forestry conversions, big talking on that this morning, so well.
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Speaker 7: One will deal with it too.
33:53
Speaker 2: Nice one. Mic is with your next Have a fantastic
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Speaker 2: Tuesday everyone. I will see you tomorrow.
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