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Why Masyn Winn is playing through a meniscus tear · Cardinal Territory: A St. Louis Cardinals Podcast

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: It's Thursday.
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: It's a Cardinals off day, and the team itself, especially
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: the bullpen, could really use it after last night's four
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: to two loss to the Seattle Mariners in thirteen innings.
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Cardinals Territory, your official Saint Louis Cardinals
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: podcast on the Foul Territory Network. I'm your host Katie Woo.
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: Heading into the week, the Cardinals had clawed their way
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: back to five hundred after winning three straight series against
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds, the Athletics and the San Francisco Giants,
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: and then they made their way to T Mobile Park
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  Speaker 2: and were promptly swept by the Mariners in three games.
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: Wednesday's game felt especially brutal, especially given how well pitched
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: Michael McGreevey posted a bounce back outing.
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: After he was tagged for six runs and four innings
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: by the Giants last week.
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: He limited Seattle's homer.
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: Happy lineup and logged a quality start six innings, one
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: and run, five hits, four strikeouts, zero walks. The biggest
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: difference for me in McGreevy start today was how aggressive
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: he came out.
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: In the first inning.
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: We know that's been kind of a focal point for
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: McGreevy is trying to establish himself and his stuff early
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: in games. A lot of times we've seen him come
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: out and kind of get hit a little hard in
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: the first and second innings and then settle down. He
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: said that he had a conversation with Sonny Gray, who said,
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: you need to pitch the first inning like you're a closer,
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: and he came out super strong against a Seattle Mariners
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: lineup that features Randy Rosarania.
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: Perhaps Cardinals fans are familiar with him.
• 1:30
  Speaker 2: Cal Ralely the potential American League MVP, Polio Rodriguez and
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: Josh Naylor. Those the first four batters the Mariners have
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: in their lineup must be nice to have some thumb.
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: But Michael McGreevy I thought pitched really well.
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: It's a shame that we probably won't be talking about
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  Speaker 2: it too much because of what transpired after the bullpen
• 1:48
  Speaker 2: was also nails. Matt Swohnson continues to dominate. He and
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: Jojo Ramerill combined to log three innings of scoreless ball
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: with four strikeouts. And how about Riley O'Brien showing against
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: his former team in his home state to be able
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: to get up a bases loaded no out to jam
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  Speaker 2: and hold the tie there in the eleventh was super
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  Speaker 2: impressive as well. Ryan Fernandez, I thought, did a nice
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: job in the twelfth, but at some point the Mariners
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  Speaker 2: were going to take advantage of the cardinals.
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: Inability to score.
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  Speaker 2: They scored in the first inning on Evon Herrera solo
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  Speaker 2: shot and then did not score again until the eleventh,
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  Speaker 2: so it was not exactly a surprise when the first
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: pitch of the bottom of the thirteenth was hammered for
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: a walk off homer by Leo Ribas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Tough loss for the Cardinals, who have now fallen back
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: to three games under five hundred. Especially frustrating because it
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: was such a well pitched game, I mean, from mcgrievy
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: to the bullpen. Yeah, Fernandez the thirteenth ultimately loses the game,
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: but again that comes down to the inability to score,
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: which is what plagued the Cardinals for the majority of
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: this series.
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  Speaker 1: So it's frustrating.
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  Speaker 2: But one thing that I want to point out from
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: this series, and this is not I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: make this a bigger deal than it is, but I
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  Speaker 2: think it was just a microcosm of what we should
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  Speaker 2: be looking for as fans as media as the Cardinals
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: in a true rebuild season. The Cardinals, again, like I said,
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: do not score. For nine innings, Yvon Herrera is solo
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: shot off Logan Gilbert and then nothing.
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: They went two for twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: With runners in scoring positions, so that is really a
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  Speaker 2: not great But the scoring opportunity they squandered the most,
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: and this is including the bases loaded opportunity. They left
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: the runners in scoring position and second and third in
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: the middle innings. The biggest opportunity they squandered came in
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  Speaker 2: the tenth when Herrera was the automatic runner at second base.
• 3:29
  Speaker 2: I'll look at my score book, because there's no way,
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: as I record this after midnight on the West Coast,
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  Speaker 2: that I can remember thirteen innings of baseball accurately. So
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: we'll look at the book. Herrera is the automatic runner
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: in the tenth, and you have Alec Burlason who lines
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  Speaker 2: out to right field, and that's a tag play for Herrera,
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  Speaker 2: but for some inexplicable reason, he breaks for third base
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  Speaker 2: on contact and he's about sixty percent of the way
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  Speaker 2: to third base before that ball is caught in right field.
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  Speaker 2: He has to scamper back to second base. By then
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  Speaker 2: you can't tag up, and you can see he's frustrated.
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  Speaker 2: Third base coach Pop Warner is kind of standing on
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  Speaker 2: the third base box with his hands on his hips, like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: Herrera is mad, he's evis. It's obvious.
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  Speaker 2: He's smacking his leg a little bit, like you know
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  Speaker 2: that he messed up.
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  Speaker 1: He should have tagged.
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  Speaker 2: What caught me off guard was when the next play,
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: Wilson Contreras is up. He lines the foul ball to
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  Speaker 2: right field out of play. Herrera does the same thing.
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: He breaks for third again, and it's clear that he
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: is still thinking about the missed opportunity to tag, because
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  Speaker 2: it was pretty basic knowledge to tag up on that play.
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  Speaker 2: Then what happens. Contreras hits a hard hit ball to
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  Speaker 2: center and it doesn't look like it's going to fall.
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: As far as hard as it hits, it still looks
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  Speaker 2: like it's going right to Huleo Rodriguez and von Herrera
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  Speaker 2: breaks for third, and Rodriguez kind of looks a little surprised,
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  Speaker 2: like what's going on, easily corrals the fly ball and
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  Speaker 2: just kind of lobs it to second base for an
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  Speaker 2: eight six double play inning.
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  Speaker 1: Over U. Yeah, you know the saying you see something
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: new at the ballpark each day.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I had never seen a two better inning before
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  Speaker 2: until Wednesday night. So that's something that overall play two critical.
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: Miscues on the bass paths cannot happen.
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  Speaker 2: But I do want to one commend Herrera's comments after
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  Speaker 2: the game talking to local media. He did not mince words.
• 5:19
  Speaker 2: He was there at his locker waiting for us, took
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: full accountability. Here's a quote that I'll read from him.
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  Speaker 2: He said, uh, and I'm not using the full language here.
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  Speaker 2: I fed up the first one. I thought the ball
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  Speaker 2: had topspin if it was going to land, which it didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I kept thinking about that and then I eft up again.
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  Speaker 2: Herrera went on to say, I got to learn from that,
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  Speaker 2: just try to be better. I just kept thinking trying
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  Speaker 2: to make up for the first one. All of that
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  Speaker 2: was in my head. So clearly this is a guy
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: who got caught up. But I made a mistake and
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: let that mistake carry over into the next play.
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: That can happen. He knows it, The Cardinals know it.
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: They kept his bat in the lineup in case the
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: game stayed tied. It did, but when he ended the
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  Speaker 1: he was the out in the twelfth.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: When it became time for him to be the automatic
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: runner in the thirteenth, it was not Herrera who took
• 6:05
  Speaker 2: over at second base. It was Jordan Walker. So that
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  Speaker 2: was pretty telling to me. Here's what I really want
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  Speaker 2: to point out about that play. The Saint Louis Cardinals,
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: at its core is a fundamentally sound baseball team.
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: We know this.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of just the backbone of George Kissel of
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: the Saint Louis Cardinals in general. But when you are
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: rebuilding and when you are developing developing players at the
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: major league level, situations like Herreras will unfortunately occur. So
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: when I say Cardinals baseball is going to look a
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: little bit different as they work through this rebuild, this
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: is exactly what I'm talking about. Mistakes are going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Players are going to do things that used to be
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: inexcusable in prior seasons with the Cardinals organization in particular.
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, this play didn't even show up in the
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  Speaker 2: box score, but on a butt play in the tenth
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: with a runner on second, both Nolan Gorman and Wilson
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: Conterrera's crash on the ball popped up in foul territory.
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  Speaker 2: There was nobody covering third base. Thomas a jac who
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: was playing shortstop for Mason Wynn more on him, later
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  Speaker 2: broke to cover second and left third base open. That
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: runner could have easily advanced to third, but the Cardinals
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: were able to recover. Things like that, these are what
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: these young players are going to have to experience in
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: the big leagues. You can't replicate a major league environment
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: in Triple A. They have to learn these things at
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: the big league level as they go through the rebuild.
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: Now, it doesn't make it any easier for.
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  Speaker 2: Fans, I will say, but this is the only way
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: these guys are going to learn. So at the end
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: of the day, Herrera made a mistake. Is it going
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: to make or break him? No? Was it frustrating for
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: fans watching. Was it a pivotal moment in the game. Absolutely,
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: But that's not why the Mariners were able to sleep
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals over the weekend. It really came down to
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: an inability to score against a very good pitching staff,
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: silver lining the Cardinals new director of pitching, Matt Pierpont,
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: came from the Seattle Mariners. So if you liked what
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: you saw from Brian Wu, George Kirby, Logan Gilbert. They
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: need to see Louis Castillo. You're in luck because the
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: guy that helped for Seattle Mariners pitching is now trying
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  Speaker 2: to do the same thing for the Saint Louis Cardinals.
• 8:00
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• 8:01
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• 8:03
  Speaker 2: the Mason Win conundrum. The Cardinal shortstop has a torn
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: meniscus and he's going to need surgery over the off season,
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: and he's gonna play through it.
• 8:11
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• 9:14
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: In case you missed it, Mason Winn is managing a
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: meniscus tear.
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: You can read about this up on the Athletic.
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: This came to light late Tuesday after the Cardinals five
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: free loss to the Seattle Mariners. Mason Winn was supposed
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: to be in the lineup on Tuesday. He was a
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: late scratch. We knew he'd been dealing with knee pain
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: and the Cardinals were kind of evaluating that on a
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: day to day basis, So when he was scratched roughly
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes before first pitch on Tuesday, even though
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals had not yet given an official reason, it
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: was pretty safe to assume that it was anything. We
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: got more clarity finally Tuesday night after the game, where
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: Mason Wynn talked to Saint Louis based reporters and Ollie
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: marml later disclosed right out after that that Win has
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: a meniscus tear and has right me and he's going
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: to undergo I never say this word correctly arthroscopic surgery
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: or a scope surgery.
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: Over the off season. That is a minimally minimal invasive surgery.
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: So I want to pump the brakes right there. Anytime
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: that we hear surgery, it's human nature to freak out. Okay,
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: this is a very limited invasive surgery. I mean he'll
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: be able to walk out of the room under his
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: own power after the surgery is done.
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: The Cardinals medical team does not believe that Mason Win
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: will have any further risk in making this tear worse.
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: Mason wants to play every day so the Cardinals are
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: going to manage him on a day by day basis
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: hope to avoid the il and finish the season strong.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: And I think it's very clear talking to Mason how
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: important he feels it is for him to play every
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: game when healthy. So I get why fans would be like, well,
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: if he needs surgery, why is he playing? If he's
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: a torminiscus, why is he playing? So let me try
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: to some of these questions, because I do think it
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: comes across a little bit more complicated than it actually is.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and read this from the Athletic.
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  Speaker 2: When we talked to Mason after the game, he was
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: the one who first brought up the concept of surgery
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: happening probably as soon as the off season begins. Mason said,
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: some stuff is probably going to have to be done
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: this offseason to help me out. But I want to
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: finish the year as strong as possible. I hate not
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: playing games, but going forward, if I'm going to play
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: the rest of the year out, maybe taking a day
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: off here and there isn't a bad idea. I was
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: told I probably can't do too much worse to it,
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: So that's why I want to be out there, knock
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: on wood. If I can't hurt myself any further because
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: of this, than I want to be out there. The
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: Cardinals had fifteen games remaining in their schedule. Mason Winn
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: was hopeful he'd be able to play on Wednesday. That
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: was not the case. He was not in the lineup today,
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: was not a live option for the Cardinals on Wednesday.
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: With the off day on Thursday, the.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: Cardinals are hoping that he'd be able to play on
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: Friday again if there's no further risk of making this
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: tear any worse, which the Cardinals medical team believes that
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  Speaker 2: that is the case, and I do not, in any
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: sense or any capacity, believe that if it was different,
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  Speaker 2: they would still let him play.
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: And Mason wants to be.
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  Speaker 2: Out there, and the surgery that he's not gonna undergo
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: is not going to impact his off season or his
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six under any means. Okay, fine, plenty of
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: players play, hurt, play with some sort of tear. I
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: think Mason is smart, and he's been very honest with
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: Allie Marble about when he can play and when he can't.
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  Speaker 2: So we're gonna continue to see him now if things
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: get worse, they'll put him on the injur list. The
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  Speaker 2: Cardinals are four and a half games back from the
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: Mets in the final wildcard spot. They're three games under
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: five hundred. Mathematically, yes, they're still in it. Realistically not
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: so much. But Mason wants to play. I'll go and
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: I'll continue reading some of these quotes just to give
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  Speaker 2: his perspective a little bit more. Mason said, I feel
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: I owe it to these guys to finish the year strong.
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  Speaker 2: I definitely don't want to cash in this early. Technically
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  Speaker 2: we still have a shot, so I still want to
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  Speaker 2: go out there and compete for that.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: I want to do it for my pictures.
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  Speaker 2: I know these guys really want me out there at shortstop,
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  Speaker 2: and I want to be there. I'm going to have
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  Speaker 2: time in the off season to recover, so I feel
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  Speaker 2: like I can play this one out if things change.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: There are.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: Their options, right, Thomas and JC can't play shortstop. Brendan
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: Donovan should return on Friday. We'll have a rehab update
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: for him later in the episode. One thing that is
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: not under consideration, barring anything super unusual, is the call
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: up of top prospect JJ Weatherholt, who returned to the
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: Memphis Redbirds lineup on Wednesday after missing the last five
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: games with a with general soreness from a non baseball ailment,
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: per a team sports spokesperson, so he was a DH
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: from Memphis today. He'll resume back to the field as
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: early as Thursday, if not by the weekend, and everything
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: is full go there. But the Cardinals still are not
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: entertaining calling up their top prospect, regardless of his one
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: point zho to five ops and his over three hundred
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: batting average. Again, this comes down to forty man roster construction,
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  Speaker 2: less do the service time, more that he doesn't need
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: to be protected, and the person in charge of activating
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: the forty man roster right now, John Azaylock, is not
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  Speaker 2: going to be the person in charge of managing JJ
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: Weatherhold's career.
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  Speaker 1: That's time bloom.
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  Speaker 2: So we can, unfortunately hit the pause button on seeing
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: JJ Weatherhold at some point this year, unless again, something
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: completely crazy out of left field happens. For right now,
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: you'll continue to see Mason win, hopefully avoid the injured list,
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: play through this pain, undergo a scope surgery probably in October,
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: and be good to go. For a quote, very normal
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: for the Cardinals medical team offseason and hopefully a twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty six season as well.
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  Speaker 1: It's worth noting that right.
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  Speaker 2: Now Mason Win stands as a lead candidate for the
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: nationally Gold Glove at shortstop. He is having one of
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: the best defensive seasons by a Cardinal shortstop in franchise history.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: I'll read you guys some stats. He leads MLB and
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: out of a average at twenty two, and he leads
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: all MLB shortstops with a nine to nine to four
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  Speaker 2: fielding percentage. He's made just three errors all season. He's
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: also on pace to post the full or the highest
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  Speaker 2: full season fielding percentage by a Cardinal shortstop in club history.
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  Speaker 2: So lots to play for if you're Mason Win again,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: if he doesn't feel like he's hurting himself or putting
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: his future at risk, then you manage it and play
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: day by day and hope that the surgery goes in
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: there and clean some things up so he's not in
• 15:23
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  Speaker 1: Anytime I think that you hear surgery or tear, you
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: fear the worst.
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  Speaker 2: But this is a situation the Cardinals feel like and
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Mason feels like they have a hold on so they
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: will continue doing that. More injury updates await for you all.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Brendan Donovan, Nolan Arnado started rehab assignments. We'll break those
• 15:46
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  Speaker 1: Dig in.
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  Speaker 2: As I'm looking through my scorebook again that I'm so
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  Speaker 2: proud of, shout out Bob Carpenter in his final season
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  Speaker 2: as the broadcaster for the Washington Nationals.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: He also.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: There's a baseball scorebook and I use it every year.
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  Speaker 2: That was a three hour and forty four minute baseball game,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: and I.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Can't believe that used to be the normal.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Like before the pitch clock, you got a three thirty
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: baseball game and you're like, yeah, that standard. This baseball
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: game was exhausting. I cannot believe we used to do
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: that every day. Anyway, Let's talk about some of your
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: favorite players returning to the Cardinals line at. Brendan Donovan
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Nolan Arnado began rehab assignments with Double A Springfield this week.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: John King did as well. Brendan Donovan played I think
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: He had three at bats today for.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Springfield the Springfield Cardinals.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: He will be activated Friday before the three game series
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: against the Brewers. Nolan Arnatto had his first game of
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: his rehab assignment as the DH for Springfield on Wednesday.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: He'll play in a couple more. He's targeting a Monday activation.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Before the Cardinals three game series started the home stand
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: against the Reds.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: So rotation reinforcements are on the way.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Wilson Contraras after served his four game suspension and returned
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: to the Alec Burlson is back, so we're starting to
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: see more of the regulars come in, which means I believe,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I firmly believe the team's strikeout rate will go down.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: The Cardinals had let me count.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Them, fourteen strikeouts on Wednesday, and a lot of that
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: just when you look at the players in the bottom
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: of the lineup, they're guys that are very new or
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: raw to this league. And you know, Brendan Donovan doesn't
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: strike out a lot, Alec Burlson doesn't strike out a lot.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Nolan Arnando doesn't strike out a lot.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: So you're seeing a lot of these inflated numbers because
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: they had been replaced with players who do strike out
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: So this should help.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: The offense desperately because they need it, and it will
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: again complicated playing time over the final two weeks of
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: the season. But I think we've seen enough out of
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: each player at this point to kind of judge their seasons.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Of course, you want guys like Jordan Walker to finish strong,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Nolan Gorman to finish strong, Lars new Bar, et cetera.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: But every single player I think has had a substantial
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: enough runway playing time, whatever overused term you want to
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: call it for us to make decisions about whether or
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: not their seasons were successful, what they can build upon,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: what they did well, what they didn't. So Brendan Donovan
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: should be back Friday, Nolan Arnado should be back Monday.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Whether or not these two are Cardinals come open or
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: comes spring training next year, Excuse me, that's a conversation
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: for what will be a very busy offseason for us
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: all But right now, some roster reinforcements are coming back.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: No word on the corresponding moves yet.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: The players most likely to see their playe time cut
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: a little bit, I would say Thomas A. Jac He
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: had a four hit night tonight, that was exciting jose Ferman,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: and we'll see what this means for Nolan Gorman and
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Jordan Walker. Walker did not get the start on Tuesday
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: or Wednesday's game. Lars Newbar has gotten the bulk of
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: the starts. Alec Wilson is going to continue being a
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: starter and that lineup. He's deserved it. So we'll see
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: how the planetime shakes out. The Cardinals take on the Brewers.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: They are headed. They're probably on a flight now to
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee again, thank goodness, it's an off day.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: The team charter is scheduled to land.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: It's am Central times, so they will most likely sleep
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: most of the day enjoy the night off in Milwaukee
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: before three game set.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: The Cardinals have one five series left in the season.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: That's insane.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Four of those five series are against NL Central opponents.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: They will go three against the Brewers at American Family Field,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: three against the Reds at Bush Jadum, three against the
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Brewers again at bus Jadium, and they'll finish the season
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: on the road six games, three in San Francisco, three
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: at Wrigley Field against the Chicago Cups. So Division action
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: picking up that National League Wild card is all over
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: the place. The Brewers are apparently the best team in baseball.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Again. I do not know how they keep getting away
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: with this, but they do.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: They are again, a very athletic, very talented, very exciting
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: team to watch. So I actually think, and you'll hear
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: this around the league, the Cardinals could learn a lot
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: from the Brewers model for how they evaluate players, how
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: resourceful they are.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Based on how limited spending that they do.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: So it's very impressive what the Milwaukee Brewers have been
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: able to do again, and one of these days I'm
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: going to start the season believing in them, because every
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: year I'm like, no, they can't keep doing this, and
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: then every year they keep doing it.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Nothing.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: The Cardinals will like to do more than place spoiler
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: for a lot of these teams, especially in the Division.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: The Reds are very much in the postseason hunt, so
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: are the Cubs and the Giants, so plenty of time
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: to wreak chaos and.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: That's what we like to do.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: So thanks is always for watching Cardinal Territory. I'm going
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: to get some sleep because I obviously need it. We'll
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: be back over the weekend with some Cardinals Brewers breakdowns
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: and hopefully a better outcome at American Family Field than
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: T Mobile Park again. I'm your host, Katie Wu. Thanks
• 21:41
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