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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 2-18-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 2: Oh Heavy, Humpday, Happy Wednesday, everybody, It's the Sean O'Connell
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Speaker 3: We've got drama right now live Men's hockey Elimination Round.
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Speaker 3: Check YOUA is currently with five minutes left in the game,
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Speaker 3: is currently in the lead over Canada. Now, Canada not
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Speaker 3: the host nation, but Canna's kind of always the host
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Speaker 3: nation when it comes to hockey, and they're on the
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Speaker 3: brink the verge of elimination right now. The Canadians Sidney
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Speaker 3: Crosby left the game earlier with an injury, and our
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Speaker 3: neighbors up north wearing the red and black, which you
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Speaker 3: know how I feel about black throwing being thrown into
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Speaker 3: a uniform that doesn't really belong there. But Canada wearing
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Speaker 3: the red and black against check ya, who's got her just?
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Speaker 3: I don't know what all of the coat of arms
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Speaker 3: symbolism is on the front of their Olympic jerseys. But
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Speaker 3: it's sick, That's what I know. Game is now tied
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Speaker 3: at three three three minutes ish. What what drama? What intensity?
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Speaker 3: What insanity? Canada just scored the equalizer and it's not
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Speaker 3: Veggie and goal. By the way, for check you three three,
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Speaker 3: three minutes and twenty four seconds left in regulation. Canada
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Speaker 3: has outplayed, especially in their own attacking end. They're leading
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Speaker 3: right now thirty seven shots to twenty. Obviously check you
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Speaker 3: has just had some some better opportunities, but the volume
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Speaker 3: belongs to Canada. They keep showing the replay just a
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Speaker 3: nasty deflection right in front of the goal five hole,
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Speaker 3: right between the keepers pads man intense fun. The Olympics
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Speaker 3: have been an absolute blast to watch. I know that
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Speaker 3: we do some of the silly stuff, the tongue in cheek,
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Speaker 3: like making sure that we covered more curling than anyone
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Speaker 3: really needs to have covered, But this the stakes of
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Speaker 3: the Olympic Hockey tournament are really interesting to me because
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Speaker 3: of the dynamic that we have discovered. And by the way,
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Speaker 3: Adrian Denny's going to join us later on the show
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Speaker 3: one o'clock. He'll be with us for between the Pipes
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Speaker 3: and we'll talk about this, but the dynamic of having
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Speaker 3: NHL players back in these Olympic games for the first
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Speaker 3: time in over a decade, and the fact that you know,
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Speaker 3: so many of them have almost i won't say set aside,
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Speaker 3: but they've tabled the thrill and the excitement and the
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Speaker 3: intensity of their NHL duties in a real way so
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Speaker 3: that they can go and represent their nations. And I
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Speaker 3: get it, it's part of just being an Olympian, but
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Speaker 3: professional athletes play this calculus game, and the timing of
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Speaker 3: the Winter Olympics being in the NBA and NHL season,
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Speaker 3: Like NBA players don't necessarily have to deal with this
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Speaker 3: because the calendar conflict doesn't present itself in the same
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Speaker 3: way with basketball. And now those guys, if you're on
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Speaker 3: the Olympic team and your team went to like a
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Speaker 3: deep playoff run or the NBA Finals, that's that's a really,
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Speaker 3: really long year of basketball for you. This is fascinating
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Speaker 3: because it's right in the middle of the season and
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Speaker 3: something you know, you've got teammates squaring off against teammates.
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Speaker 3: In the case of Canada, these are all NHL guys.
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Speaker 3: In the case of Check, yeah, they're mostly NHL guys.
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Speaker 3: So these are individuals who have to potentially go play
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Speaker 3: with one another ten days from now. Right now, they're
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Speaker 3: trying to eliminate one another from the Olympics.
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Speaker 4: I love what it has created.
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Speaker 3: And obviously we've got Team USA still in the hunt
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Speaker 3: for a medal.
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Speaker 4: It is gold, metal or bus. We talked about it
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Speaker 4: a lot.
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Speaker 3: This is a an Olympic cycle where the roster seems
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Speaker 3: to have been put together to beat Canada almost pointedly
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Speaker 3: and specifically. And Checkia might take care of that for you.
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Speaker 3: How is that not Goldie in our France? Goodness, gracious,
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Speaker 3: Jeckie is goalie just got blown up in the crease.
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Speaker 4: I don't know who it was for Canada.
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Speaker 3: Even flopped and stayed faced down on the ice for
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Speaker 3: a second. That's not something you see a ton in
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Speaker 3: hockey anyway. So that's fun. I'll keep you updated. We'll
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Speaker 3: give you a medals count update at some point in
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Speaker 3: the show today breakaway ooh, blocked, blocked by the Canada keeper.
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Speaker 4: I don't know who's in the net for Canada today anyway.
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Speaker 3: Catch the elimination round of Olympic hockey at all other
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Speaker 3: Olympics while you're down there, Also big NCAA basketball tonight.
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Speaker 3: You've got trivia going on at Big Willie's. In addition
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Speaker 3: to BYU Arizona playing in a game and Canada struggling
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Speaker 3: right here and BYU experiencing what they're experiencing on the
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Speaker 3: basketball for right now, are really they're driving home a
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Speaker 3: point for me that I think we're gonna have a
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Speaker 3: lot of discussions about as football season starts to roll
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Speaker 3: around again, and that conversation is one of expectation and
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Speaker 3: elevated expectation, but especially expectation that comes from the talent
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Speaker 3: that's on your roster. And Olympic hockey obviously is different
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Speaker 3: than what BYU basketball put together, and it's certainly different
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Speaker 3: than what college football is. But also we're looking at
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Speaker 3: a situation with the approaching NCAA season, who things getting
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Speaker 3: a little bit chippy here. Remember, fighting an Olympic hockey
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Speaker 3: is not just it's to major penalty. It is a
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Speaker 3: game misconduct penalty. So I know this is an elimination
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Speaker 3: game and you probably don't care that much, but you'll
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Speaker 3: be ejected if you fight in in Olympic hockey. So
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Speaker 3: these guys got to be careful not to let that
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Speaker 3: escalate a little bit further. In any case, the point
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Speaker 3: I was getting to is the expectation of whatever it
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Speaker 3: is or bust is something we've grown extremely comfortable with
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Speaker 3: as fan bases, and I think even like general managers
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Speaker 3: both at the college and pro levels have gotten comfortable
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Speaker 3: with this.
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Speaker 4: But I want to know what bust means? Right?
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Speaker 3: We know what the phrase means, Hey, it's championship or bust,
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Speaker 3: meaning it's a championship or you feel like you failed
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Speaker 3: in that regard. But if you're Canada and it's gold
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Speaker 3: medal or bust, which of course it always is, it's
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Speaker 3: your national pastime, Hockey is your sport. Most of the
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Speaker 3: best players, a lot of the best players in the
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Speaker 3: world are from your country. Bust doesn't really look like anything.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're still gonna just collect the best roster
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Speaker 3: of guys that you can. It's an all star team
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Speaker 3: effectively who were born in Canada. You're gonna throw those
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Speaker 3: guys together. Maybe the tweak, the change that you make
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Speaker 3: is you switch up some lines next time around, Maybe
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Speaker 3: you go with the youth movement next time around.
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Speaker 4: Whatever.
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Speaker 3: I'm a lot more interested in what championship or bust
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Speaker 3: means for Utah football, what it means for BYU basketball,
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Speaker 3: what it means for BYU football. We know what the
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Speaker 3: championship side of the equation is, but what does the
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Speaker 3: bust mean. Does it mean that, well, I've expect I
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Speaker 3: expect you to win this championship, or that failure will
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Speaker 3: be something I head to the internet and complain about.
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Speaker 4: That doesn't mean anything.
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Speaker 3: That doesn't change anything, that doesn't do anything, that actually
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Speaker 3: doesn't hurt anybody.
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Speaker 4: It's the easiest thing in the world to avoid.
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Speaker 3: If you're a player or a coach or an athletic
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Speaker 3: director or a GM or whatever. You just don't get
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Speaker 3: on the Internet and you don't go to the message
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Speaker 3: boards and you stay away from Twitter. You just instagram
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Speaker 3: your way through life for the next couple of months
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Speaker 3: and then it blows over. So the Internet dissatisfaction is
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Speaker 3: not bust.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't mean anything. Okay, what about job changes?
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Speaker 3: Not at Utah this year, most of us probably don't
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Speaker 3: even feel like it's Big twelve championship or bust to
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Speaker 3: some extent, Sure, that's what you hope for, that's what
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Speaker 3: you want. I don't think many of us are actually
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Speaker 3: heading into this season and saying, Morgan Scally, you better
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Speaker 3: dang well win a championship in your very first year
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Speaker 3: as a head coach. I don't know that it's championship
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Speaker 3: or bust for Utah Football this year. I know it
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Speaker 3: is for BYU football.
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Speaker 4: This year.
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Speaker 3: BYU Football is returning most of the important players on
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Speaker 3: that team. Everyone who had an option and eligibility to
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Speaker 3: come back did, Yes, you lost Jack Kelly to the
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Speaker 3: draft process.
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Speaker 4: That's going to be hard to replace.
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Speaker 3: Chase Roberts is going to be I mean, his production
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Speaker 3: last year won't be hard to replace. I think that
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Speaker 3: his leadership, his personality on the team is difficult to replace.
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Speaker 3: So it's definitely championship or bust for Kilane and for
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Speaker 3: BYU football.
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Speaker 4: And now obviously there's a.
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Speaker 3: Parker Kingston sized hole in your wide receiving corps and
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Speaker 3: the attack you have offensively through the air. Even the
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Speaker 3: most optimistic BYU fans have to acknowledge that that no
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Speaker 3: matter the outcome of what happens with that situation, and
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Speaker 3: it's not gonna end in him being on the roster
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Speaker 3: at b YU.
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Speaker 5: See isn't Isn't that really what what a true championship
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Speaker 5: or bust is though that like that, jobs are at stake.
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Speaker 5: Like the Bills, like Sean McDermott got him to the
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Speaker 5: playoffs again, he got him, they won a game, They
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Speaker 5: got him within a score of the a few minutes
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Speaker 5: of the AFC Championship game again, but it was championship
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Speaker 5: or bus for the Bills. So they felt like we
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Speaker 5: gotta we gotta move on, We gotta get a different
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Speaker 5: head coach. I feel like that's the true championship or
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Speaker 5: bus And in that regard I hear I feel like,
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Speaker 5: yes BYU is close enough that the fans and and
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Speaker 5: internally they should be feeling like we don't If we
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Speaker 5: don't win the big teal championship this year, we certainly
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Speaker 5: don't get back to the big total championship game this year.
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Speaker 5: That'd be a massive disappointment. But do you really feel
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Speaker 5: like Kalani Satake's job is at stake?
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Speaker 4: Not at all, not in the slightest.
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Speaker 3: So that's what I mean when I say, Okay, what
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Speaker 3: does championship or bust mean? And it's different for every team.
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Speaker 3: By the way, Canada just won in overtime. Ah, dang it,
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Speaker 3: check you you got my hopes up. Actually, I'm not
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Speaker 3: sure that I wanted Canada to be eliminated by the checks.
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Speaker 4: I think i'd rather see.
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Speaker 3: Team USA beat Canada in a gold medal game, which,
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Speaker 3: by the way, you have set up on the women's side.
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Speaker 5: Of things, you absolutely want the best, most challenging opponent.
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Speaker 4: You want to beat the best.
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Speaker 5: But also, and this, I'm watching this and going, well,
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Speaker 5: if there's a chance that the that the best team
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Speaker 5: gets out way early. That makes that makes the gold
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Speaker 5: medal a lot more likely for Team USA.
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Speaker 4: So I'll take that.
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Speaker 3: Then it's really gold medal or bust, because it's like, hey,
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Speaker 3: if somebody else eliminated Canada for you and you don't
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Speaker 3: win the gold medal, that is going to be a
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Speaker 3: job change. So eight seven seventy three five three zero
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Speaker 3: seven hundred when you say championship or bust back of.
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Speaker 4: A bubble, by the way, beautiful.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, backhand man, left side of the Oh my gosh.
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Speaker 5: We're gonna have to ask Adrian to refresh us on
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Speaker 5: what the what the corners of the of the goal
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Speaker 5: are called, because there's terminology for like that, you hit
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Speaker 5: it right in that area of the goal. Anyway, he
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Speaker 5: get it in the top right hand corner, just the
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Speaker 5: perfect spot to do that and backhand with a couple
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Speaker 5: of defenders on his back.
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Speaker 3: That I mean, that was beautiful individual effort and goal
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Speaker 3: for him. Canada is just so loaded, man, holy cow.
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Speaker 4: Adrian.
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Speaker 5: By the way, when he joins US the USA, his
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Speaker 5: quarterfinals game is going to be just starting, so eight,
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Speaker 5: so we'll have we'll have some You're gonna have to
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Speaker 5: get him some get to having some live commentary. Maybe
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Speaker 5: he'll have to We'll have to turn the chair a
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Speaker 5: little bit so he can see the TV and we'll
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Speaker 5: just put a mirror.
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Speaker 4: Behind me so he can watch it. In the mirror.
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Speaker 5: I'll see if maybe we can that TV behind you
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Speaker 5: that's got our logos, that shows our logos only might
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Speaker 5: be able to switch that to the to our audition
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Speaker 5: network anyway. Eight seven seven three five three zero seven
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Speaker 5: hundred championship or bust?
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Speaker 4: What does bust mean for you? Now? I'm glad we
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Speaker 4: have BYU to use as an example, right.
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Speaker 3: Because Kalani Stake is very obviously the right guy to
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Speaker 3: be the coach at b YU right now. He's won
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Speaker 3: a lot of games. He has not yet won a
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Speaker 3: conference championship. He has not yet won a major championship
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Speaker 3: because they haven't had an opportunity for many years of
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Speaker 3: his tenure. So the conference championship is that box you
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Speaker 3: gotta check. And of course that means also college football
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Speaker 3: playoff inclusion. If you can do it, we know what
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Speaker 3: you're up against. If you're BYU in Utah this year,
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Speaker 3: you're up against the juggernaut of spending that is Texas Tech.
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Speaker 3: There's like it was last year, there's going to be
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Speaker 3: a Big twelve conference that's got a surprise team or two.
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Speaker 3: You're gonna have a little bit of parody. I think
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Speaker 3: we overestimated how much parody there would be in the conference.
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Speaker 4: This year.
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Speaker 3: There was a very clear top three teams, and actually
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Speaker 3: there's a clear top two teams because everyone played everyone
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Speaker 3: because Texas Tech played BYU, BYU played Utah, Utah played
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Speaker 3: Texas Tech and BYU, so that deck shuffled itself. That
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Speaker 3: is not the case in the schedule this upcoming season.
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Speaker 3: All of you are aware Texas Tech misses both BYU
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Speaker 3: and Utah. Now that works both ways. Utah and BYU
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Speaker 3: both miss Texas Tech. Right Wait, BYU misses Texas Tech,
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Speaker 3: don't they Yeah, Tech doesn't have Tech BYU. All right,
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Speaker 3: they got it.
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Speaker 5: If Tech is going to continue to be the juggernaut
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Speaker 5: that they were last year and that we expect them
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Speaker 5: to be this year, the Big twelve's got to look
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Speaker 5: at their scheduling model to maybe stagger Utah and BYU, Like,
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Speaker 5: don't just have them play They don't have to play
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Speaker 5: both teams.
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Speaker 4: Do you either have both or you have none yet?
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Speaker 5: Like don't do the both or none thing, like, at
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Speaker 5: least have one of them on the schedule each year.
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Speaker 3: Right, it works. It works nicely for BYU this year.
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Speaker 3: It works nicely for Utah this year. It works nicely
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Speaker 3: for Texas Tech this year. Now you know, it doesn't
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Speaker 3: work nicely for if there's a logjam at the top
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Speaker 3: the fans who would now have to decide who belongs
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Speaker 3: where by tiebreaker.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that potentially sucks, maybe because maybe that's the way
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Speaker 5: the Big Twelve would prefer it despite I don't know
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Speaker 5: they'd prefer a logjam tiebreaker situation, but they probably prefer Hey,
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Speaker 5: if these three are gonna be our best teams along
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Speaker 5: with maybe Arizona State every year, then if there's gonna
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Speaker 5: be a year where none of them have to play
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Speaker 5: each other, that probably works better for us from a
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Speaker 5: They're probably all gonna have gonna have one loss or
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Speaker 5: be undefeated in November, right, and that's better for us
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Speaker 5: from a national perspective, national perception.
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Speaker 4: So I don't know, but maybe they prefer it that way.
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Speaker 5: But I just think from a competitiveness standpoint, maybe stagger
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Speaker 5: Utah and BAU with Tech every year.
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Speaker 3: So at Texas Tech if you don't win a championship
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Speaker 3: this year, if you don't win a conference championship in
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Speaker 3: a playoff game this year, you're probably seeing a job
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Speaker 3: change for a head coach.
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Speaker 5: And if the off especially with the upgrade at quarterback
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Speaker 5: that we all we all expect source By to be
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Speaker 5: a huge upgrade at quarterback over Baron Morton, if the
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Speaker 5: offense is still clearly a weakness. You know Mac a
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Speaker 5: Mac left, which might be on the hot seat right
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Speaker 5: as well.
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Speaker 3: I think Joey McGuire like, because with great power comes
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Speaker 3: great responsibility. When you have a booster that is giving
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Speaker 3: you blank checks and you don't win the ultimate prize
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Speaker 3: if you if you go to the playoff again and
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Speaker 3: you don't score any points like you did last year,
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Speaker 3: that's that's a double back to back embarrassment for Texas Tech.
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Speaker 3: And it will be very much like we saw with
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Speaker 3: the Sean McDermott firing with with a bunch of other
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Speaker 3: where you're just like, but you're so good, you're better
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Speaker 3: than ninety percent of every coach in your profession.
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Speaker 4: And Cody Campbell and Texas.
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Speaker 3: Tech might look at it and say, I don't I
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Speaker 3: want better than ninety nine percent. I want better than
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Speaker 3: one hundred percent of the other coaches. I won a
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Speaker 3: national championship, and if you can't get me there, I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna use everything that doesn't look great on your resume
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Speaker 3: against you. Offensive ineptitude, difficulty getting this thing going, not
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Speaker 3: maybe developing a quarterback or having great eye for town
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Speaker 3: for a quarterback or whatever. That really becomes being too
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Speaker 3: defensively minded. How many times did we hear that about
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Speaker 3: a certain somebody up on the hill? It changes right
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Speaker 3: We saw we saw the three horsewomen of US figure
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Speaker 3: skating last night in Olympics primetime, and every one of
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Speaker 3: those young women it was metal podium or bust. But
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Speaker 3: what does bust mean when you're in that situation or
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Speaker 3: that now you're done, Now you're not gonna try for
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Speaker 3: the next Olympics. It's obviously way different in Olympics than
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Speaker 3: it is in like.
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Speaker 4: College football or college hoops.
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Speaker 3: BYU basketball Big twelve championship or bust. This year they
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Speaker 3: were like, hey, we are ending twenty plus million dollars
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Speaker 3: on the roster. We have the number one recruit in
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Speaker 3: the country coming here. We've got lottery draft picks maybe
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Speaker 3: at two three different positions. Let's do this thing. And
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Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna make it to the Elite eight.
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Speaker 3: I think they're Sweet sixteam.
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Speaker 4: At the very very best best case scenario.
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Speaker 5: They could honestly fall in Round two and I wouldn't
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Speaker 5: be I wouldn't be very surprised.
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Speaker 4: I would right now they're a six seed.
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Speaker 5: I would I would guess, like if you if I
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Speaker 5: were making the prediction right now. Obviously we're going to
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Speaker 5: be doing that with our bracket challenge coming up in
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Speaker 5: a couple of weeks, but well before the brackets are out,
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Speaker 5: I would say they got to be at least a
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Speaker 5: Sweet sixteen team. I mean, even with Richie Saunders out
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Speaker 5: for the rest of the season, you still got tons
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Speaker 5: of top end town on that roster. Aj De Bons
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Speaker 5: is not out for the season, right that ought to
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Speaker 5: be enough to get you through to the Sweet sixteen.
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Speaker 5: But that being said, with just the they haven't been
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Speaker 5: able to prove that concept yet, so i'd they could
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Speaker 5: be a first weekend team that gets upset. And I
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Speaker 5: wouldn't say first round upset, but maybe a second round
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Speaker 5: upset this year, and that would I'd be very curious
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Speaker 5: what kind of changes we might see with that program
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Speaker 5: if that ends up being the case. So see, I
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Speaker 5: don't know that Kevin Young would be coaching for his
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Speaker 5: job in that case for this year, but maybe they go,
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Speaker 5: you know what, we might not want.
22:22
Speaker 4: To see you through the rest of your contract at BYU.
22:28
Speaker 3: I'm especially curious about what the failure to achieve ultimate
22:34
Speaker 3: expectations looks like, because whether you'd fans like to hear
22:39
Speaker 3: this or not, you're in a different world when you're
22:43
Speaker 3: a BYU head coach. Your job is in a lot
22:47
Speaker 3: of ways more secure. Despite the difficulty of excelling at BYU,
22:53
Speaker 3: a lot of the roadblocks have been removed. The honor
22:55
Speaker 3: code is not quite as problematic for teams as it
22:58
Speaker 3: used to be down there. As it used to be,
23:01
Speaker 3: it's still an issue, right, It's still a limiting factor
23:04
Speaker 3: in recruiting, but it's not such a limiting factor that
23:08
Speaker 3: millions and millions of dollars can't overcome it. Right, And
23:13
Speaker 3: now that that is legal, you've got this very wealthy
23:15
Speaker 3: alumni base, and BYU, I think is a lot less
23:19
Speaker 3: apt to make job changes at the top because the
23:24
Speaker 3: candidate pool is smaller.
23:26
Speaker 4: At BYU.
23:28
Speaker 3: You have to in order to be a head coach,
23:30
Speaker 3: and I was informed even like most coordinator positions down there,
23:35
Speaker 3: it's not officially in the books as far as I
23:37
Speaker 3: know that coordinators have to be active card carrying members
23:41
Speaker 3: of the LDS Church, but head coaches do.
23:45
Speaker 5: In any sport. So like track and field coach has
23:48
Speaker 5: got to be my knowledge. Yes, by the way I
23:51
Speaker 5: track it. I say track and field like it's a
23:53
Speaker 5: throwaway program down there. They're actually a national They're actually
23:56
Speaker 5: a national power in tracking.
23:57
Speaker 4: Very good.
23:57
Speaker 3: Their cross country program is incredible, Like the volleyball programs
24:01
Speaker 3: are incredible. And again maybe that is a little bit
24:05
Speaker 3: more gray area than it used to be at BYU,
24:08
Speaker 3: certainly for football and basketball. Yeah, non negotiable, ain't no
24:12
Speaker 3: question because you are basketball and football. Like, I mean,
24:17
Speaker 3: who is a more famous Mormon on the planet than
24:21
Speaker 3: Kalate Satake right now?
24:22
Speaker 4: There's like fifteen of.
24:24
Speaker 3: Them, right, Yeah, you're a top twenty if you're the
24:28
Speaker 3: head coach of BYU football, you're a top twenty five
24:31
Speaker 3: Mormon in the eyes of the public.
24:34
Speaker 4: Should Should we do a top twenty five rankings? Should? Yeah?
24:37
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to.
24:39
Speaker 5: Popularity, okay, or like name recognition, not not anything else.
24:45
Speaker 3: I'd be very curious to know what the response to
24:48
Speaker 3: a non member of the LDS Church making a top
24:51
Speaker 3: twenty five Mormons list would be, if people get.
24:55
Speaker 4: Mad about it, or just say James is vouching for you?
24:58
Speaker 3: Or do you think good or do you think people
25:00
Speaker 3: would be like, no, I want the more neutral party
25:02
Speaker 3: thing here, because because if you make.
25:04
Speaker 5: Your own ranking, you know what, if we end up
25:06
Speaker 5: doing this, we need to maybe this is this sounds
25:10
Speaker 5: like this is ultimate summertime radio thing.
25:12
Speaker 4: Okay, we need to we need to We.
25:14
Speaker 5: Need to ask every one of our guests who like
25:17
Speaker 5: a Jeff Schwartz type, who doesn't who's not embedded in
25:20
Speaker 5: the religion or in the state of Utah to be
25:23
Speaker 5: to be like, hey, so, uh, if I said Ryan Smith,
25:29
Speaker 5: is that a name?
25:30
Speaker 4: Is that? Is that something that you top? Five? More light? Yeah?
25:34
Speaker 3: Lights up in your brain, that makes the lights go off?
25:37
Speaker 3: He might be number one right now.
25:39
Speaker 4: Yeah.
25:39
Speaker 5: If I say, uh, who's there's got to be someone
25:44
Speaker 5: that's a that's an ambassador somewhere. Trump in the Republican
25:49
Speaker 5: Party generally likes to do like Huntsman's John Huntsman Junior
25:54
Speaker 5: was sure there's got someone like that's gonna be someone
25:58
Speaker 5: people know.
25:58
Speaker 4: Ist Robney still as more reacts, you know what I mean.
26:05
Speaker 4: Stay tuned in June for the top.
26:08
Speaker 3: To get back to the important sports point here, right,
26:11
Speaker 3: what does championship or bust look like?
26:15
Speaker 4: For Utah men for.
26:18
Speaker 3: Women's basketball, for men's basketball. Utah men's basketball is not
26:23
Speaker 3: going to be championship or bust for another five years
26:27
Speaker 3: if they ever.
26:28
Speaker 4: Get there, hopefully sooner than that.
26:29
Speaker 3: The Utah Jazz are not going to be championship or
26:32
Speaker 3: bust for two more years till next year.
26:36
Speaker 4: Baby. Well, it's instead of being ten.
26:38
Speaker 6: Years away, it now looks like it's two or three
26:40
Speaker 6: or four years away, which to have light at the
26:43
Speaker 6: end of that tunnel is incredible. But what does the
26:46
Speaker 6: bust look like in those situations at BYU. I don't
26:50
Speaker 6: think it means firing people. The more interesting question is
26:54
Speaker 6: does it mean that the folks responsible for the current donations?
26:59
Speaker 6: If you're rumble cookie man, and it doesn't mean anything,
27:03
Speaker 6: it doesn't end up giving you what you hope it
27:05
Speaker 6: gives you if you don't win a Big twelve championship
27:09
Speaker 6: and by the way, this year doesn't count, right, It's
27:11
Speaker 6: like this is all still so new. If we're still
27:14
Speaker 6: talking about BYU chasing always the bridesmaid, never the bride,
27:18
Speaker 6: five or six years from now, does crumble cookie man?
27:22
Speaker 6: Just be dude, I'm I'm not giving any more money, right,
27:24
Speaker 6: It's a waste of time.
27:26
Speaker 4: Does the well? Does the well run dry? Does it ever? Yeah?
27:29
Speaker 3: Or like at Texas Tech, do they just say man?
27:34
Speaker 3: I had I've spent fifty million bucks on this roster
27:37
Speaker 3: this year and it was almost good enough.
27:40
Speaker 4: Let's make it sixty five.
27:41
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty six at Dan Landing in Oregon, I
27:45
Speaker 3: got ten five stars and twenty four stars on my
27:49
Speaker 3: roster and I still haven't won a national championship. Phil,
27:53
Speaker 3: you're coming up on ninety years old. I know that
27:56
Speaker 3: this is what you need. What can we do? And
27:59
Speaker 3: Uncle Phil just I was like, ah, buy them all,
28:03
Speaker 3: pay them all. You got one hundred million dollar roster
28:06
Speaker 3: if you want to get me this championship.
28:08
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. The championship or bust.
28:11
Speaker 3: Thing for Dan Lanning at Oregon is probably incredibly nerve
28:15
Speaker 3: racking because there is no excuse for you to not
28:18
Speaker 3: win every recruiting battle and every football game.
28:21
Speaker 5: Well, he's now got like Dante Moore returning is makes
28:26
Speaker 5: that even the pressure gets ratcheted up even more because
28:30
Speaker 5: that's a guy who would be the number two overall pick.
28:34
Speaker 5: The consensus says that if he entered the draft this
28:37
Speaker 5: year and instead he's like, I'm gonna win the Heisman
28:39
Speaker 5: next year.
28:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's another thing, right, It's now Heisman or
28:43
Speaker 3: bust for Dante Moore and for Dan Lanning. Yeah right,
28:46
Speaker 3: And Dan Lanning has to feel more pressure on that
28:48
Speaker 3: than Dante Moore does because Dante gets his nine million
28:52
Speaker 3: bucks or whatever they're paying him, and he's gonna be
28:55
Speaker 3: a first round pick in the next NFL draft.
28:57
Speaker 5: As long as he's not as long as he's not
28:59
Speaker 5: complet completely terrible, which he's not gonna be.
29:02
Speaker 4: He's a good football. Yeah, as long as.
29:04
Speaker 5: He doesn't completely regress, which we don't think is gonna happen,
29:08
Speaker 5: he's still gonna get everything he wants even if he
29:10
Speaker 5: doesn't win the Heisman Trophy. And Arch Manning similar thing
29:14
Speaker 5: in Texas, Like that's Heisman Trophy or bust again. But
29:18
Speaker 5: he could have a similar year to last season, which
29:20
Speaker 5: was below expectations but still really good and still be
29:23
Speaker 5: a first round pick.
29:24
Speaker 3: Which was really interesting because it was like early, very
29:27
Speaker 3: below expectations and late probably on board with some expectation,
29:33
Speaker 3: but the whole body of work came in slightly under
29:36
Speaker 3: the ridiculously high bar for arch Manning. This is interesting
29:40
Speaker 3: from sixteen to twenty four, our friend Derek Byu or
29:43
Speaker 3: bust and bust is possible coordinator change.
29:46
Speaker 4: Okay, I could see.
29:48
Speaker 5: I could see with Kevin mcgiven being so new for example,
29:53
Speaker 5: obviously Colton Swan's new to it.
29:55
Speaker 4: I don't know.
29:56
Speaker 5: I for whatever reason, maybe it's just the tradition of
30:00
Speaker 5: Utah football defense that makes me think that if there
30:03
Speaker 5: is a coordinator change at Pribavy on the offense, let.
30:05
Speaker 3: Me promise you something, Utah fans. Unless Kevin mcgiven leaves
30:10
Speaker 3: for another job or has like a bottom fifty offense
30:18
Speaker 3: in college football this year, Morgan Scalley is not going
30:23
Speaker 3: to make the same mistake that Kyle Whittingham made.
30:25
Speaker 4: Over and over and over again.
30:26
Speaker 3: He is not going to reshuffle the offensive deck every
30:31
Speaker 3: single year, and he's not going to do it right
30:33
Speaker 3: after he takes the job. Unless Colton Swan has the
30:38
Speaker 3: eleventh out of twelve that's not even twelve teams anymore
30:43
Speaker 3: fifteen out of sixty. Yeah, he's unless he's fifteen out
30:46
Speaker 3: of sixteen or sixteen out of sixteen. Defensively, Morgan is
30:50
Speaker 3: not firing these guys. You're not going to see coordinator changes.
30:54
Speaker 3: Don't even head into a year thinking I gotta beat
30:56
Speaker 3: this team or I need to see this coach change
30:59
Speaker 3: the barring a scandal or people taking other jobs. This
31:04
Speaker 3: is your coaching staff moving forward, because Morgan Scally is
31:08
Speaker 3: not going to be that dude who hits the reset
31:11
Speaker 3: button after one year.
31:13
Speaker 5: He's just not and certainly as big a deal as
31:18
Speaker 5: the Holy War is if you go ten and two again,
31:21
Speaker 5: but it was with the loss to BYU. That's not
31:24
Speaker 5: gonna That's certainly not gonna be something that Morgan Scally
31:27
Speaker 5: considers doing. Like hopefully hopefully there's a win against BYU
31:33
Speaker 5: this year.
31:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's by you were bussed by You were bussed.
31:37
Speaker 3: Could be the mantra for the whole season this year,
31:40
Speaker 3: and I'd be okay with it, because I don't expect
31:42
Speaker 3: them to win a Big twelve championship in Morgan's first year,
31:46
Speaker 3: not that they don't have the roster, not that they
31:48
Speaker 3: don't have the talent, not that they, but like, you've
31:51
Speaker 3: got a lot of questions on the offensive line, and
31:55
Speaker 3: I want to know how the two quarterback thing is
31:57
Speaker 3: going to work. And you do have to replace some
32:00
Speaker 3: hot guys on the defense, including the All American John
32:05
Speaker 3: Henry Day, who you were going to have to replace anyway,
32:07
Speaker 3: because he's going to miss a lot of time this year.
32:09
Speaker 3: But if you came into the year, if Morgan Scalley
32:13
Speaker 3: stood up at the end of springball and said, all right,
32:15
Speaker 3: it's beat By. You are bust, I'd be like, hell yeah,
32:19
Speaker 3: I like that goal. But also I would raise my
32:22
Speaker 3: hand and say, what does bust mean?
32:23
Speaker 4: Though?
32:24
Speaker 3: And I have that question, not like Big Jay gotcha journalism.
32:28
Speaker 3: I have that question about every win it or bust
32:32
Speaker 3: anywhere with anything Team USA, Team Great Britain curling right
32:38
Speaker 3: now in the Winter Olympics, gold medal or bust. What
32:41
Speaker 3: does it mean if you bust that these women are
32:44
Speaker 3: not back four years from now on your curling team,
32:47
Speaker 3: that these women are back, but your coach is different,
32:51
Speaker 3: that the US decides they're not getting their curling stones
32:55
Speaker 3: from Alisa Kaig in Scotland anymore and they're going to
32:58
Speaker 3: find a new source.
32:59
Speaker 4: What does mean.
33:01
Speaker 3: And I don't expect you as a listener to have
33:03
Speaker 3: the answer to any of these things. It's just the
33:05
Speaker 3: thing that comes to my mind when I watch Canada
33:09
Speaker 3: on the brink of losing an elimination game, to check you.
33:13
Speaker 3: And obviously they ended up winning, so that point is
33:15
Speaker 3: now moot. When I see BYU and Arizona playing tonight,
33:19
Speaker 3: and BYU potentially having all of the hopes and dreams
33:23
Speaker 3: and expectations of this college basketball season slipping through their fingers,
33:28
Speaker 3: they're very, very wealthy, funeral potato stained fingers. I'm wondering
33:37
Speaker 3: if it's championship or bust. What does bust look like?
33:41
Speaker 3: In every case? You can text me, you can tweet
33:45
Speaker 3: at me. You can tell me what your bust is
33:47
Speaker 3: for Utah, for BYU, for Team USA. Tell you what
33:56
Speaker 3: gold medal or bust. And put Clayton Keller in the
33:58
Speaker 3: dang game.
33:59
Speaker 4: Let's go.
34:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, the bust is, get Keller in and win the gold.
34:06
Speaker 4: You want to win. Put Keller in print the T shirt.
34:12
Speaker 3: Now sell it online, not at the Olympic Shop though,
34:16
Speaker 3: because we should be boycotting that thing, all right. Lots
34:19
Speaker 3: LEO to get to here on the Sean O'Connell show.
34:21
Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz is going to join us at noon. We'll
34:23
Speaker 3: talk a little about the NFL Hall of Fame class
34:26
Speaker 3: going in. I want to pick his brain about the
34:30
Speaker 3: weird realignment news we got yesterday with Sacramento State.
34:34
Speaker 4: You know who their head coaches?
34:35
Speaker 3: By the way, remember the guy who's uh he's been
34:40
Speaker 3: famous for years for he's a college football coach. He
34:42
Speaker 3: was at like Arizona was at San Jose State. He
34:45
Speaker 3: was a backup dancer for mc hammer back in the day.
34:48
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he is now the sax State head coach.
34:51
Speaker 4: Is he really? Was he?
34:52
Speaker 7: That?
34:53
Speaker 4: He wasn't even a coordinator for Arizona last year? Was he?
34:55
Speaker 4: Maybe he was?
34:57
Speaker 3: Alonso Carter is right? I thought he was a a
35:00
Speaker 3: position coach.
35:01
Speaker 5: I remember the college game day like profile on that though.
35:05
Speaker 5: That's uh yeah, what to get there. Mike Bibby, I
35:08
Speaker 5: believe still the men's basketball coach at Sacramento State too.
35:13
Speaker 4: They're they're trying to level up over there.
35:16
Speaker 3: I want to know what Mike Bibby has on Shack
35:19
Speaker 3: that Shack agreed to be anything associated with that team.
35:23
Speaker 5: Well, I think Shaq's got a sun that's on the team.
35:27
Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken, is that right? Have to look it up.
35:30
Speaker 3: It is Mike Bibby, by the way, former rivals teaming
35:36
Speaker 3: up in Sacramento, Sacramento. Now we're gonna get it down
35:41
Speaker 3: the rabbit hole on Sacramento State in any case, lots
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36:12
Speaker 4: All right, The aforementioned.
36:16
Speaker 3: BYU versus Arizona basketball game, which is tonight, is one
36:23
Speaker 3: of the feature games on the slate right now in
36:25
Speaker 3: a Big twelve conference that is a little bit tipsy,
36:31
Speaker 3: all right. Arizona State, who's had plenty of struggles this year,
36:36
Speaker 3: beat number thirteen Texas Tech.
36:41
Speaker 4: On the road in Tempee. So all right.
36:44
Speaker 3: Uh and probably more pointedly for Texas Tech, JT. Toppin
36:47
Speaker 3: goes down with an injury late in the second half.
36:51
Speaker 3: He's holding onto his right leg. This is I mean,
36:56
Speaker 3: this is bigger for Texas Tech than lou Using Richie
37:00
Speaker 3: Saunders is for BYU, and that is massive. If BYU
37:06
Speaker 3: can't play with Richie Saunders anymore, He's still finished with
37:10
Speaker 3: twenty points, eight rebounds for assists and four blocks, missing
37:14
Speaker 3: the final six minutes of the game. They I'm not
37:19
Speaker 3: seeing anything definitive about the severity of this, but the
37:23
Speaker 3: injuries late in this season could be sort of reorganizing
37:28
Speaker 3: the favorites in the Big Twelve tournament which is coming shortly,
37:31
Speaker 3: and of course in the upcoming NCAA tournament with several
37:36
Speaker 3: teams in the Big twelve looking to be potentially, you know,
37:41
Speaker 3: second weekend teams at the least.
37:47
Speaker 4: So BYU Arizona and BYU has got to do it.
37:49
Speaker 3: Obviously, the rest of the way without Richie Saunders, we
37:52
Speaker 3: will see, I think a glimpse of what the plan
37:55
Speaker 3: is without Richie. Adjusting to it in game is one thing,
38:00
Speaker 3: But knowing that he's going to be gone and then
38:03
Speaker 3: deciding to figure out how you're going to approach it
38:06
Speaker 3: over the course of a week or so, that's where
38:09
Speaker 3: we're gonna see what Kevin Young and company look to
38:12
Speaker 3: do the rest of the way without Richie Saunders, who
38:16
Speaker 3: is kind of a straw that stirs a drink. Utah
38:20
Speaker 3: basketball also in action on the road at West Virginia.
38:23
Speaker 3: That's never an easy place to play. It's never an
38:26
Speaker 3: easy road trip. It is the one for me in
38:28
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve conference that you're just like, woof. Now,
38:33
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong. I want to go. I want
38:37
Speaker 3: to spend some time in Morgantown. I'd like to go
38:39
Speaker 3: see a football game in Morgantown. But there are if
38:44
Speaker 3: you look at the not just in the Big Twelve,
38:45
Speaker 3: but if you look at the rest of the slate
38:47
Speaker 3: around college sports, you get that reminder of how just
38:53
Speaker 3: nonsensical some of the alignments the realignment stuff has been.
38:58
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's as if Orlando wasn't enough to be like,
39:03
Speaker 5: what is?
39:04
Speaker 4: Why are we? Why are we?
39:06
Speaker 5: Why is the Big Twelve in Orlando? You also have
39:08
Speaker 5: West Virginia. Cincinnati is not insane because you got Iowa
39:13
Speaker 5: State to me.
39:14
Speaker 3: To me, West Virginia is an even bigger outlier than
39:16
Speaker 3: like geographically distance wise, Orlando. You're like, that's it takes
39:21
Speaker 3: a long time to get there. But I could see
39:24
Speaker 3: why the decision makers convince themselves it was a good
39:27
Speaker 3: idea to have a footprint in Florida, right, and the
39:31
Speaker 3: largest enrollment university in the country, if I'm not mistaken,
39:34
Speaker 3: just being like, all right, you know what.
39:36
Speaker 4: Cool.
39:36
Speaker 5: And UCF was not that far removed from being the
39:41
Speaker 5: group of five darlings, a college national champion, Yeah, the
39:45
Speaker 5: people's national champion, twenty self appointed national champions, right.
39:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I could see why if you're a
39:51
Speaker 3: Big twelve decision maker, you're like, yeah, well, everyone else
39:55
Speaker 3: is snatching up as much real estate as they can.
39:57
Speaker 3: We got to get into Florida, Okay, UCF our way
40:00
Speaker 3: to get into Florida, And they're probably by the same token, Like,
40:03
Speaker 3: you know what, from a recruiting standpoint in the sports
40:07
Speaker 3: that matter, Ohio is a really good place to be.
40:10
Speaker 3: So let's let's get Cincinnati in here. That's not as
40:13
Speaker 3: big of a lift for the travel and things like
40:16
Speaker 3: that as Florida is. And then West Virginia you're just like, yep,
40:20
Speaker 3: they're still here. Yeah, they've been around, they've been in
40:22
Speaker 3: the Big twelve a while now. Yeah, West Virginia is
40:24
Speaker 3: still since the Big East disappearance.
40:27
Speaker 5: They must have they must have come in with TCU,
40:30
Speaker 5: because TCU initially when they jumped to the Power five,
40:34
Speaker 5: they were a big East team for like a season, right, so,
40:38
Speaker 5: which is we all forget because they've been in the
40:41
Speaker 5: Big Twelve ever since and the Big East is long
40:44
Speaker 5: since been not been a football conference. But yeah, it's Uh,
40:49
Speaker 5: West Virginia is just I mean, adding Cincinnati at least
40:53
Speaker 5: you get somewhat of a travel partner type thing with
40:55
Speaker 5: Cincinnati and West Virginia.
40:57
Speaker 4: But that's just feels so far away.
40:59
Speaker 3: Uh, tough one. West Virginia is a pretty high quality team.
41:03
Speaker 3: They're sixth in the Big Twelve right now. They're coming
41:07
Speaker 3: off a win against UCF. They played Texas Tech tough
41:10
Speaker 3: with a healthy JT Topping, and now Utah has got
41:15
Speaker 3: to find a way to win on the road. They're
41:18
Speaker 3: clinging to that hope that you can before the end
41:22
Speaker 3: of the season, you can put another Big Twelve win
41:24
Speaker 3: or two on the resume.
41:26
Speaker 5: The Mountaineers are a bubble team right now. They're around
41:29
Speaker 5: They're nineteen and seven. So this is not going This
41:32
Speaker 5: is not even though we don't they kind of get
41:35
Speaker 5: overlooked compared to the rest of the Big Twelve. This
41:39
Speaker 5: is not a bad team. This is not a team
41:42
Speaker 5: at Utah's that's the same level at Utah. So this
41:44
Speaker 5: is gonna be a tough one.
41:51
Speaker 3: Man ten and a half points the West Virginia Mountaineers
41:56
Speaker 3: are getting against the University of Utah.
41:58
Speaker 5: So if they come out, if Utah shows the same
42:04
Speaker 5: kind of effort, pride, whatever, buzz whatever other buzzwords, fight
42:10
Speaker 5: that they that they showed against a like maybe the
42:14
Speaker 5: national champion in Houston and the first game against well,
42:20
Speaker 5: actually really both games against BUYU. They just the end
42:23
Speaker 5: of the game, BUYU ran away with it at their
42:26
Speaker 5: own place. But if they come out with that kind
42:30
Speaker 5: of effort and fight, they I'm not saying they could
42:32
Speaker 5: they could pull off this upset against West Virginia, but
42:35
Speaker 5: they could make it a very tough game for the Mountaineers.
42:39
Speaker 5: That I that's all I want to see the rest
42:41
Speaker 5: of the season. They got what four or five games left,
42:44
Speaker 5: just just give us the same kind of effort that
42:48
Speaker 5: you gave against the best teams in the conference this year,
42:52
Speaker 5: against teams that are a bubble team lower or lower right,
42:57
Speaker 5: just help show us that tough games or bust.
42:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's tough games or bust?
43:01
Speaker 7: Let's go.
43:03
Speaker 5: That's probably honestly, that's probably what Alex Jensen's perspective for
43:08
Speaker 5: the players on the roster, like you guys with eligibility
43:11
Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily mean I want you back. He might be
43:14
Speaker 5: saying tough games or bust for for some of those guys.
43:19
Speaker 3: Call back to the beginning of the segment, Jordan on
43:22
Speaker 3: the text line says, have you seen Mike Bibbie lately?
43:24
Speaker 3: He looks like he could play running back in the NFL?
43:27
Speaker 3: Fuilt like a brick house, and brown Bear says more
43:31
Speaker 3: football media access or bust.
43:34
Speaker 4: We're gonna get at people. What's our bust for that? Yeah?
43:37
Speaker 4: What is the bust? Or we're not showing up and
43:40
Speaker 4: asking questions anymore? Yeah, Or we're gonna take our microphones
43:44
Speaker 4: and go home Morgan, and we're gonna be just a
43:49
Speaker 4: little bit more critical.
43:53
Speaker 3: There's actually no shot that people are gonna be more
43:56
Speaker 3: critical of Morgan Scalley in these first few years, and
43:59
Speaker 3: they were of Kyle Woodinghamon's last year. He's too he's
44:03
Speaker 3: too likable, right, He's very likable, he's very engaging. He's
44:06
Speaker 3: going to be a lot easier to deal with with
44:08
Speaker 3: the media, and people are going to give a little
44:13
Speaker 3: bit of grace, which is the right thing to do
44:15
Speaker 3: to someone who's taking over his alma mater program and
44:19
Speaker 3: having that opportunity, that high profile situation, be his first
44:23
Speaker 3: head coaching opportunity.
44:24
Speaker 4: That is a massive difficult deal.
44:27
Speaker 5: You're we're looking at the same thing a year earlier
44:30
Speaker 5: with Alex Jensen. By the way, as we're talking about
44:32
Speaker 5: basketball this segments, he's.
44:36
Speaker 4: Not as charismatic as Morgan is.
44:39
Speaker 5: Certainly there's not There may not be very many people
44:43
Speaker 5: on the planet it's charismatic. It's Morgan scaley. But he's
44:46
Speaker 5: in the same boat that it feels like we want
44:50
Speaker 5: to give him time to figure this thing out because
44:54
Speaker 5: he is mister Utah Basketball Alex Jensen, as in the
44:58
Speaker 5: glory days of Utah is as a player, and now
45:02
Speaker 5: he's his first head coaching jobs at his alma manor.
45:04
Speaker 4: All Right, I gotta take a break.
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Speaker 3: The hot lunch is coming Burger Fusion new place at
45:10
Speaker 3: Trolley Square, and let's just say the first impression Burger
45:13
Speaker 3: Fusion made yesterday was an excellent one. Fingers crossed that
45:19
Speaker 3: every one of the burgers is going to be just
45:20
Speaker 3: as delicious as the caprase burger I had yesterday. Jeff
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Speaker 3: Schwartz joined us in about ten minutes.
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Speaker 4: We're rolling. It's the Sean O'Connell show on ESPN seven
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Speaker 4: ninety two.
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Speaker 1: You were listening to the Sean o'connall Show from the
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Speaker 1: Murdoch Hundai Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two.
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Speaker 4: One af am.
45:52
Speaker 3: If you're driving, drive safely. The studio here is a
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Speaker 3: bit of a cave for this of our YouTube show.
46:01
Speaker 3: We keep the lighting consistent by having dark blackout shades
46:06
Speaker 3: over the over the windows here on Broadway. And James
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Speaker 3: just came in and was like, look at this. We
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Speaker 3: got a blizzard, baby, big time snowfall happening here in
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Speaker 3: the Hot Lunch. And while it might be cold outside,
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Speaker 3: the hot Lunch is exactly that burger fusion we need
46:26
Speaker 3: Crowley Square. Yes, congratulations, James, we got the water. You're
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Speaker 3: an old dad now we still have you gone to
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Speaker 3: the Utah snow report today?
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Speaker 4: I have not. I need to. I need to keep
46:41
Speaker 4: learning the old Dad ways, the.
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Speaker 3: Old Dad ways. Now there's two different snow reports. There's
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Speaker 3: like the ski report and then there's the snow pack Report,
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Speaker 3: which is like the actual.
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Speaker 4: You know, it's not for the ski resorts.
46:57
Speaker 3: It's the Utah Snowpacked Totals that show you the percentage
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Speaker 3: of normal we're sitting at right now relative to the
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Speaker 3: average year, and a couple of years ago, this thing
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Speaker 3: was lit up dark blue all across. Now we're mostly
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Speaker 3: orange and yellow, which puts you anywhere from fifty to
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Speaker 3: eighty nine percent of regular snowpack in the state. Oddly enough,
47:21
Speaker 3: you're a hometown of Saint George. Like southern Utah has
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Speaker 3: done better this year than Northern Utah with the snow. Well,
47:27
Speaker 3: that just means I got like three inches, so it's
47:31
Speaker 3: actually more rain down there. But I digress. Burger Fusion
47:35
Speaker 3: at Trolley Square, I guys Mike Jardine, the brains and
47:42
Speaker 3: in fact, the the hands behind the operations. He's on
47:46
Speaker 3: the grill today, which is why he's not in here
47:48
Speaker 3: with us. He came in yesterday and he shared with us,
47:52
Speaker 3: you know, some of the strategy behind Burger Fusion and
47:55
Speaker 3: the passion he has for it, and talked about how
47:58
Speaker 3: they fry everything in beef towel, and they make sure
48:00
Speaker 3: that even the packaging is designed so that if you're
48:03
Speaker 3: taken this stuff to go, it's not getting all soggy
48:06
Speaker 3: because it steams itself and needs to go. Packages the
48:11
Speaker 3: mozzarella squares that are the featured side today are crispy, delightful,
48:19
Speaker 3: and they are actually you know, we've all had mozzarella sticks,
48:23
Speaker 3: the kind of ones you get at Costco and restaurants
48:25
Speaker 3: charge you like nine dollars for a side of these things.
48:29
Speaker 3: Look at this on YouTube, a perfectly executed mozzarella cube
48:33
Speaker 3: with just the lightest dusting of breading on it and
48:38
Speaker 3: then fried in that beef tallow, quick fried in that
48:40
Speaker 3: beef tallow to give it a nice little crisp on
48:42
Speaker 3: the outside, Garlic Palmer's on sauce for dipping on those
48:46
Speaker 3: bad boys.
48:48
Speaker 4: And then the burger today. Yikes.
48:51
Speaker 3: Now I appreciate having the hot lunch folks come in
48:54
Speaker 3: because they give me stuff that I might not order myself.
48:57
Speaker 4: I will say this, U Ribbenberger today.
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Speaker 3: Blue cheese, caramelized onions, bacon, balsamic glaze, hot honey pickles.
49:06
Speaker 3: That's the real star of the show for me so far.
49:08
Speaker 3: Through a couple of bites and a blue cheese aoli.
49:14
Speaker 3: Blue cheese is not my favorite of the cheeses. So
49:17
Speaker 3: if you throw too many, like massive crumbles of blue
49:20
Speaker 3: cheese on there and all you taste is blue cheese.
49:22
Speaker 3: When you take a bite, it's not gonna be my
49:24
Speaker 3: favorite burger.
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Speaker 4: Am I still gonna eat it?
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Speaker 3: Yes, But this is a perfectly balanced flavor profile where
49:31
Speaker 3: you have just that hint of the blue cheese because
49:34
Speaker 3: it's mixed into that mayo, that Aoli sauce, the crisp
49:38
Speaker 3: of the slaw, and of the hot honey pickles really
49:42
Speaker 3: stars the show. And then caramelized onions. The balsamic glaze
49:46
Speaker 3: gives these burgers a bit of a refreshing finish in
49:50
Speaker 3: your bites. A lot of times, and I don't hate
49:53
Speaker 3: it with other burgers, but a lot of times you
49:56
Speaker 3: get this big, like heavy, greasy feeling in mouth after
50:01
Speaker 3: eating a burger. Not the case with what we got
50:03
Speaker 3: going on right here at Bergerfusion. It's chuck and wag
50:08
Speaker 3: you mixed together. They make their own buns, they make
50:11
Speaker 3: their own meat, well, they source their meat. They don't
50:16
Speaker 3: make their meat. They source their meat locally whatever possible.
50:20
Speaker 3: And man, so far, so not just good. This is
50:25
Speaker 3: great right at Trolley Square, just west of Whole food.
50:29
Speaker 3: So if you're looking at the front of the Whole
50:31
Speaker 3: Foods on the left side, right on the south side,
50:35
Speaker 3: southwest side, you've got those little spots, the couple other spots.
50:41
Speaker 3: That's where burger Fusion is right behind the trolley itself,
50:46
Speaker 3: in the middle of that trolley Square complex. I love
50:51
Speaker 3: what we're getting from burger Fusion so far. And what
50:53
Speaker 3: did he call it?
50:54
Speaker 5: It was like, I can't remember exactly how Mike put
50:57
Speaker 5: it yesterday, but it was something about this secret with
51:00
Speaker 5: the juice to make the burger.
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Speaker 3: Yea, he calls it burger juice, burger juice. He said
51:05
Speaker 3: his family doesn't like him calling it burger juice?
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Speaker 1: Is it?
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Speaker 4: Is it?
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Speaker 5: Because there's some people that have to have the problem
51:10
Speaker 5: with the word moist? Is that?
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Speaker 4: Is it the same? Guaranteed it's the same thing as moist.
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Speaker 3: I have no problem with juice I don't really have
51:18
Speaker 3: a problem.
51:18
Speaker 4: With moist either. It's just a word people don't be
51:20
Speaker 4: afraid of. I'm just gonna say moist again.
51:23
Speaker 5: Just go or any of our listeners might be grossed
51:25
Speaker 5: out by that twenty five times on the show today.
51:28
Speaker 5: But I bring that up and say, you don't get
51:32
Speaker 5: that greasy feeling after taking a bite, each bite of
51:37
Speaker 5: this burger, but that that might make you anybody listening
51:40
Speaker 5: might make him go, oh, well, they must not be
51:42
Speaker 5: very juicy.
51:43
Speaker 4: No, it is one of the juiciest burgers.
51:45
Speaker 3: It's incredibly had, but it's it's not incredibly greasy. In fact,
51:50
Speaker 3: I need to make sure that I lean forward over
51:52
Speaker 3: the packaging instead of spilling the moisture from this burger
51:56
Speaker 3: down the front of my shirt. Because I'm a grown man,
51:59
Speaker 3: I'm forty two. I should not have stains on my
52:02
Speaker 3: shirt for meeting lunch provided at work.
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Speaker 4: Terrible for the YouTube channel. Look at this. Look at
52:09
Speaker 4: this hot honeypickle.
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Speaker 3: All right, stare at it, be jealous of it, and
52:14
Speaker 3: realize you don't have to be jealous.
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Speaker 4: You just need to go to Burger Fusion.
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Speaker 3: Seventhiest four ninety South seventiest at Trolley Square. Check about
52:23
Speaker 3: online at burgerfusion dot com. Burger Fusion currently on the
52:27
Speaker 3: Sean O'Connell show, batting one thousand. Every single thing they've
52:32
Speaker 3: given us so far, the side sauces, the mozzarella squares,
52:36
Speaker 3: the onion rings, and the fries yesterday, the burgers from
52:39
Speaker 3: yesterday and from today, everything has been phenomenal.
52:44
Speaker 4: When they're gonna can they keep that average up? We'll
52:46
Speaker 4: find out.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see they're gonna looking at. They've given us
52:50
Speaker 5: the full week's menu ahead of times, so we know
52:53
Speaker 5: what the sides are gonna be. They're not just bringing
52:55
Speaker 5: fries every day, as we mentioned today, They've got mozzarella bites.
52:59
Speaker 5: They're little mini montrella squares. Excuse me, there's a cube,
53:03
Speaker 5: a little mini mozzarella sticks and cubes in cube shape there.
53:07
Speaker 5: They're gonna have some fried pickle type have already pickles
53:13
Speaker 5: one of these. So I'm excited because obviously you can't
53:16
Speaker 5: go wrong with fries or onion rings anytime, but I'm
53:19
Speaker 5: excited to try some of these other sides so you
53:21
Speaker 5: don't necessarily get with a burger all the time.
53:26
Speaker 3: For all you old men out there, Solitude is reporting
53:30
Speaker 3: nineteen inches of fresh snow in the last twenty four hours.
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Speaker 4: People. That makes my heart feel so much better.
53:36
Speaker 3: That means those peach trees in the spring are gonna
53:39
Speaker 3: be blue and big.
53:40
Speaker 5: The popcorn is going to be popping off the apricot trees.
53:44
Speaker 4: Jeff Schwartz joins us.
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Speaker 3: Next, it's the shott Ole'condle show Bergerfusion on the Hot
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Speaker 3: Launch ESPN seven ninety.
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Speaker 5: Goods.
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Speaker 1: Shan O Connell show you were home of the best
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Speaker 1: inside of your utes. Let's get back to WOC from
54:05
Speaker 1: a Murdoch Chevrolet studio of ESPN seven hundred yet ninety
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Speaker 1: two one a f am.
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Speaker 4: Well, welcome back to the Sean o'connald show.
54:25
Speaker 3: Welcome in Jeff Schwartz, a longtime NFL veteran and of
54:30
Speaker 3: course former Oregon duck, though we forgive him for that.
54:35
Speaker 4: Jeff Schwartz, how are you, sir?
54:38
Speaker 7: I'm just tired of stupid people that flood my Twitter mentions.
54:43
Speaker 7: It's just like an onslaught of stupidity at all times.
54:47
Speaker 4: This is annoying.
54:48
Speaker 7: That's it. I'm just venting to you.
54:50
Speaker 3: Is there anything it's specific that you people were well
54:53
Speaker 3: spoking before?
54:54
Speaker 7: Well? I saw John Rothstein, College Basketball Extraordinaire tweet out
55:00
Speaker 7: that the new Big ten teams Oregon, Washington you see
55:04
Speaker 7: in the USC are struggling to play well on the road, right,
55:11
Speaker 7: and I noted that not a problem in college football
55:15
Speaker 7: as much, and not a problem in women's college basketball
55:18
Speaker 7: is the you know, the Pac twelve teams are you see,
55:20
Speaker 7: it's fantastic, right, the US is good, but Juju's hurt
55:23
Speaker 7: right now and people are just like in my mention,
55:26
Speaker 7: and so I said, the problem is the basketball team suck.
55:29
Speaker 7: You see, it's not good. Organ is not good, Like,
55:32
Speaker 7: I don't know what you want for me. Well more
55:34
Speaker 7: than that, people just the stumb stuff. They say, you
55:36
Speaker 7: can't compare football and basketball. I'm not. I'm not really comparing.
55:39
Speaker 7: I'm saying that basketball teams are very bad. The football
55:42
Speaker 7: teams are much better, and they're better on the road.
55:44
Speaker 7: Like how surprising is that in sports? It's just stuff
55:47
Speaker 7: like that, you know, like people purposely not getting the point.
55:50
Speaker 7: It just it makes me not want to interact on
55:53
Speaker 7: the internet, and I don't do as much as I
55:54
Speaker 7: used to.
55:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, we tried to cure some of that from Jeff.
55:58
Speaker 3: I did he love to feed the trolls on online?
56:00
Speaker 7: I've stopped, I've thought, but even just replying to anyone's tweets,
56:03
Speaker 7: like trying to have any conversation, because you just get
56:06
Speaker 7: people that routinely just just don't get it or want
56:12
Speaker 7: to argue, or they're hypocrites or just you know, just
56:15
Speaker 7: crazy stuff, the same stuff as usual.
56:17
Speaker 4: I know this was already in the plans.
56:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's wild to see the Seattle Seahawks up
56:24
Speaker 3: for sale. Right after winning a super Bowl championship. Now,
56:28
Speaker 3: I get it, the market price is probably never gonna
56:31
Speaker 3: be higher than it is coming off to something like this.
56:34
Speaker 3: What do you think the sale is going to look
56:35
Speaker 3: like in the NFL?
56:37
Speaker 7: Yeah, looking it was announced. I think before the Super
56:39
Speaker 7: Bowl this is the plan, right, and when Paul Allen passed,
56:43
Speaker 7: this has always been the plan, right to sell the
56:45
Speaker 7: team Eventually. I don't think he want his team to
56:46
Speaker 7: run to run to run it and I we know
56:48
Speaker 7: a better time, like the president, Right, the super Bowl
56:50
Speaker 7: is finished and the parade has happened. I mean, it's
56:55
Speaker 7: gonna go for a lot of money, right, I mean
56:57
Speaker 7: the evaluations I don't even I haven't seen what even
56:59
Speaker 7: the evaluation is is right now, have you seen the
57:01
Speaker 7: number for the evaluation?
57:02
Speaker 4: No?
57:03
Speaker 7: Seven billion, six billion somewhere around there. Right. You know,
57:07
Speaker 7: you get a stadium that's still in pretty good shape,
57:09
Speaker 7: even though it's sort of older for the NFL. Right now,
57:12
Speaker 7: you get a very rabid fan base, right, very good
57:15
Speaker 7: coaching staff, good general manager. There was a lot of positives,
57:18
Speaker 7: you know, to this, and I think one thing that's
57:20
Speaker 7: been interesting is, you know, the owners, the new owners
57:24
Speaker 7: in the NFL are like the richest of the rich.
57:28
Speaker 7: It was never sort of that way for a long time.
57:30
Speaker 7: Used to sort of piece it together. You know, you
57:32
Speaker 7: have a couple, a couple of groups buy a team together. Sean,
57:36
Speaker 7: Now it is is absolutely just filthy rich owning these teams, right,
57:40
Speaker 7: And that's probably gonna happen against You're gonna add someone
57:44
Speaker 7: else to this environment too, you know, is independently wealthy,
57:48
Speaker 7: you know, doesn't need the NFL, but wants to add
57:50
Speaker 7: that to the portfolio. And I just hope it's a
57:52
Speaker 7: owner that wants to spend money, right, I mean, I
57:54
Speaker 7: think that you get in trouble with some of these
57:55
Speaker 7: owners that are very cheap. You know, there's a salary
57:58
Speaker 7: cap and salary for I get it, but also cash spending, right,
58:00
Speaker 7: how much you wanted to actually spend now to pay
58:04
Speaker 7: your players?
58:04
Speaker 3: Right?
58:04
Speaker 7: Because typically the cash spending is how you win championships, right,
58:08
Speaker 7: You have to spend the cash now to win. You
58:10
Speaker 7: can certainly pay players in the salary cap system, but
58:13
Speaker 7: you can wait to pay them, right and sort of
58:15
Speaker 7: you know that that to me is the is the issue.
58:18
Speaker 7: So hopefully it's a good owner that wants to invest
58:21
Speaker 7: in the team. And continue the sense if I lost
58:23
Speaker 7: success in Seattle.
58:26
Speaker 3: Do you think that the NFL office and maybe even
58:29
Speaker 3: the other owners are hoping that foreign money comes in
58:33
Speaker 3: here because they're trying to make this an international league,
58:36
Speaker 3: an international product in a way that I don't think
58:39
Speaker 3: makes a ton of sense for NFL football. But the
58:41
Speaker 3: Niners just announced another international game in Mexico City.
58:45
Speaker 4: They're playing in Paris whatever.
58:47
Speaker 7: I think they're playing. I think thats are playing actually
58:48
Speaker 7: a game in Mexico City and in Australia this year.
58:51
Speaker 4: That's right.
58:51
Speaker 3: They've got a game in Melbourne, which I love Melbourne.
58:54
Speaker 3: Might that'd be a fun one to go to? And
58:56
Speaker 3: then yeah, there it's going to be. They're hosting a
58:59
Speaker 3: game in Mexico City. So I the language on that
59:03
Speaker 3: made me think they agreed to have that be count
59:05
Speaker 3: as one of their home games.
59:07
Speaker 7: Well, you know, because of that, you have nine home
59:09
Speaker 7: games now in a given year, I think your teams
59:12
Speaker 7: are more willing to give one up to play in
59:14
Speaker 7: your national game. Right. They just got those super Bowl too,
59:17
Speaker 7: so maybe that was sort of the stipulation, like hey, man,
59:19
Speaker 7: like you get those a super Bowl, you got to
59:21
Speaker 7: play an extra game game internationally some consort of curious
59:25
Speaker 7: if that's part of the discussion when it comes to
59:27
Speaker 7: those things, I would imagine it's got to be the
59:32
Speaker 7: right foreign money. The NFL doesn't often have any morals,
59:38
Speaker 7: but I do think that the right money matters in
59:41
Speaker 7: this situation. You know, it's not going to like Saudi
59:46
Speaker 7: Arabian prints. I tell you that, like, I feel like
59:49
Speaker 7: that's not gonna happen, right, But if a foreign business
59:53
Speaker 7: person or company wants to buy a team, I don't
59:56
Speaker 7: think they'd be against that exactly, but I think it's
59:59
Speaker 7: got to be the right type of foreign investments.
1:00:02
Speaker 4: Jeff Schwartz is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell Show.
1:00:05
Speaker 3: The Rich Eisen had Luke Keigley on this morning, and
1:00:09
Speaker 3: it was just a really, really great interview.
1:00:12
Speaker 4: He's obviously awesome.
1:00:13
Speaker 3: He's on the Carolina Radio broadcast now if I'm not mistaken, uh,
1:00:18
Speaker 3: and just to he's one of those guys he's going
1:00:21
Speaker 3: into the Hall of Fame and is kind of like,
1:00:23
Speaker 3: as far as you can tell, like just a credit
1:00:25
Speaker 3: to the NFL, credit to the Carolina Panthers to have
1:00:28
Speaker 3: a guy like that associator, at least in a public
1:00:30
Speaker 3: sense associated with your franchise.
1:00:33
Speaker 4: What were your experiences with Keekley?
1:00:34
Speaker 7: Like, so, I sort of I sort of missed a
1:00:37
Speaker 7: lot of his career. I was, I was out of
1:00:40
Speaker 7: Carolina before he got there, and I think we only
1:00:43
Speaker 7: played the Panthers once. But I know some of his
1:00:46
Speaker 7: friends and players that he played with and they're friends
1:00:49
Speaker 7: of mine and I Marty Herniey, I do a podcast
1:00:51
Speaker 7: with him called Jim Shuffle, who drafted Luke Keigley, And
1:00:53
Speaker 7: think I think that the thing that you hear the
1:00:56
Speaker 7: most is just how good of a person he is.
1:00:59
Speaker 7: I'll playing this to my on the other day about
1:01:00
Speaker 7: like the idea of being a good person and sometimes
1:01:04
Speaker 7: especially in your youth and maybe in you know, teenage years,
1:01:07
Speaker 7: you know, being the good guys you know looked at
1:01:09
Speaker 7: as like, you know, not cool to be right. And
1:01:12
Speaker 7: I told him, I'm like, dude, just continue to like
1:01:14
Speaker 7: be a good person, right because it pays off. Again,
1:01:16
Speaker 7: I promise you, I promise you it will. And you know,
1:01:19
Speaker 7: I feel like a guy like Keikley, who was who
1:01:20
Speaker 7: was very talented as a football player, just being the
1:01:22
Speaker 7: person he was helped pay off in the end, right,
1:01:26
Speaker 7: you know, of course there are bad people in the
1:01:28
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame, I would imagine, So, I mean there's
1:01:30
Speaker 7: a couple of criminals and whatnot. And and but just
1:01:34
Speaker 7: like him being a good person definitely is every story
1:01:37
Speaker 7: you hear from anyone, right, and then he was just
1:01:40
Speaker 7: an amazing football player. I mean, just I've made this,
1:01:43
Speaker 7: I've said this before that there's different levels to this, Right,
1:01:46
Speaker 7: there's the Hall of Fame guys I played with on
1:01:50
Speaker 7: the play with for them, Adrian Peterson will get in,
1:01:52
Speaker 7: Steve Smith, Jillis Peppers, and I think Eli Manning will
1:01:55
Speaker 7: get it and at some point and just to to
1:01:57
Speaker 7: the other three Peterson, Roger Peterson and uh and Pepper's
1:02:01
Speaker 7: and Steve Smith, and those guys are just otherworldly, right,
1:02:04
Speaker 7: Like there's just no explanation for how good of an
1:02:07
Speaker 7: athlete they are, how they recover from from injury, how
1:02:10
Speaker 7: they preper it. They just do it better thannyone else.
1:02:12
Speaker 7: They have just had this natural drive. Of course you
1:02:14
Speaker 7: have to hone those skills in the weight room and
1:02:17
Speaker 7: do the things you have to do to be good
1:02:18
Speaker 7: in the field, but like they're just they're just naturally
1:02:21
Speaker 7: better than all of us. Right, And then there's like
1:02:22
Speaker 7: the next level. I've talked about this with Jordan Gross.
1:02:25
Speaker 7: He's the next level, right where multiple time pro bowler,
1:02:28
Speaker 7: and you know, even a level from him to me
1:02:32
Speaker 7: or him to just an average start in the NFL,
1:02:33
Speaker 7: there's a huge drop off and just the ability to
1:02:37
Speaker 7: to process and study and execue on the field and
1:02:40
Speaker 7: the focus that those guys have is unmatched. And he
1:02:43
Speaker 7: lose one of those guys. My brother tells a story
1:02:46
Speaker 7: of Joe Thomas. We all know Joe Thomas, right, you know,
1:02:49
Speaker 7: hall of famer in Cleveland Browns. And when you punch
1:02:53
Speaker 7: his offensive lineman right, you typically use your two hands,
1:02:57
Speaker 7: or you might use one hand at a time, right,
1:02:58
Speaker 7: independent punch, you punch to the right, punch of your left. Okay,
1:03:01
Speaker 7: same idea, you know, same ideas hitting anyone right, you
1:03:03
Speaker 7: don't hit and one with two hands, simply one two right, Okay.
1:03:06
Speaker 7: It's the offensive lines like that a lot. And my
1:03:10
Speaker 7: brother said they were playing DeMarcus Ware when he was
1:03:13
Speaker 7: with the Cowboys, and DeMarcus Ware his thing as a
1:03:16
Speaker 7: defensive lineman was a one arm bull rush. Right. So
1:03:19
Speaker 7: when they when a defensive lineman rushes you, they can
1:03:22
Speaker 7: they can contact you with two arms all right, like
1:03:24
Speaker 7: a two arm bull rush or one arm and a
1:03:26
Speaker 7: one arm. It gives an advantage because you can be
1:03:28
Speaker 7: a little bit longer. Think about if you're just sitting
1:03:30
Speaker 7: here and if you put one arm out and you
1:03:32
Speaker 7: turn to the side a little bit, that extra distance
1:03:36
Speaker 7: keep an offensive lineman off your body. Right. So a
1:03:38
Speaker 7: one arm bul rush is really hard to stop because
1:03:41
Speaker 7: they're often lower than you and that extra distance they
1:03:44
Speaker 7: get when they turn, you can't get your hands on them, right.
1:03:47
Speaker 7: And that was DeMarcus Ware. He could one arm bull
1:03:49
Speaker 7: rush with the best of them. And Joe Thomas just
1:03:53
Speaker 7: decided that week he was gonna take his left hand,
1:03:56
Speaker 7: it's outside hand, and just punch and meet in the middle.
1:04:01
Speaker 7: DeMarcus Ware his hand as it came to one on
1:04:04
Speaker 7: bull rush him. So as he went to bull rushing
1:04:06
Speaker 7: and he just would hit his hand in the middle
1:04:07
Speaker 7: of the air. And he did it. He just did
1:04:09
Speaker 7: he just did it. Did it all again. But that's
1:04:13
Speaker 7: what we did. Mitch said that in the first quarter
1:04:15
Speaker 7: he went up to Joan was like, how I was
1:04:16
Speaker 7: going I figured it out. I'll just I just I
1:04:18
Speaker 7: just punched his I just punched his hand. You can't
1:04:21
Speaker 7: bull rush me.
1:04:24
Speaker 3: I mean this slow motion view of of another Hall
1:04:27
Speaker 3: of Fame level player kind of like cool, you just.
1:04:29
Speaker 7: Like you you so like that's Keighley, right, Like he
1:04:32
Speaker 7: did things on the field that other guys can do.
1:04:35
Speaker 7: One thing I appreciate about him being on the Hall
1:04:37
Speaker 7: of Fame is I am of the belief that as
1:04:39
Speaker 7: we get into some of these some of the guys
1:04:42
Speaker 7: are gonna be eligible soon. Have a lot of good
1:04:45
Speaker 7: counting stats, right, rushing yards, passing yards, But are they
1:04:49
Speaker 7: really like Hall of Famer? Right? To me, longevity is great,
1:04:54
Speaker 7: but if you weren't the top of your position or
1:04:55
Speaker 7: close to it for any semblance of years of a
1:04:58
Speaker 7: twenty year career, I don't know if you're a Hall
1:05:00
Speaker 7: of Famer. I just don't. I just don't, right, Like
1:05:03
Speaker 7: Frank Gore, eh okay, I mean, you rush for a
1:05:06
Speaker 7: ton of yards, you played good for you, but like
1:05:08
Speaker 7: made one old Pro team in twenty years, are you
1:05:10
Speaker 7: really a Hall of Famer? And Kickley played like eight years,
1:05:13
Speaker 7: but he was the best linebacker for seven of those
1:05:15
Speaker 7: eight years, And so I appreciate that we're starting to
1:05:17
Speaker 7: let guys in like that, like Antony Baselli, a couple
1:05:20
Speaker 7: of years back, who was the best off of the tackle?
1:05:22
Speaker 7: Think about Bisselli. He was the best offic to tackle
1:05:25
Speaker 7: at a time when four other Hall of Fame left
1:05:27
Speaker 7: tackles were playing at the same time. Like that to
1:05:30
Speaker 7: me is hall of is a Hall of Famer and
1:05:31
Speaker 7: Luke Keckley playing it. He was only eight years, but
1:05:35
Speaker 7: a Hall of Famer, So I'm glad he got in
1:05:36
Speaker 7: because of that too.
1:05:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, eight years in the league and uh one thousand
1:05:43
Speaker 3: tackles in those eight years. Six hundred and ninety solo tackles,
1:05:46
Speaker 3: four hundred and two assisted tackles, seventy five tackles for loss.
1:05:50
Speaker 7: Tiny interceptions too, by the way, with a lot for
1:05:52
Speaker 7: a linebacker.
1:05:54
Speaker 3: You had thirty wait, no, nineteen eighteen interceptions, Yeah, which.
1:06:01
Speaker 7: Is an insane number of interceptions for a linebacker.
1:06:04
Speaker 3: Seven force fumbles, touchdowns, Yeah, heck of a player.
1:06:09
Speaker 7: Those are crazy numbers for that position.
1:06:12
Speaker 3: Seven time Pro Bowler, five time All Pro, twenty thirteen
1:06:16
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year, and uh yeah, a guy
1:06:21
Speaker 3: who's going into the Hall of Fame despite only playing
1:06:24
Speaker 3: eight years.
1:06:24
Speaker 4: It's it's why he's he could still he's thirty four
1:06:27
Speaker 4: years old.
1:06:28
Speaker 7: You can still be playing.
1:06:28
Speaker 4: He could still be playing.
1:06:30
Speaker 7: Yeah, ok, you can still be fighting if you wanted.
1:06:34
Speaker 7: I mean, there's no.
1:06:37
Speaker 4: Look, there's actually there was just a you probably saw this.
1:06:41
Speaker 7: Yes, the Gena Toronto and.
1:06:43
Speaker 3: Gina Corrado and Ronda Rousi are fighting. Gina Corano is
1:06:46
Speaker 3: a year older than me and hasn't fought in seventeen years.
1:06:50
Speaker 3: So I'm never going to rule it out. If somebody
1:06:52
Speaker 3: comes with a big bag, let's see, that would take
1:06:55
Speaker 3: ten more years.
1:06:57
Speaker 4: Since my last fight.
1:06:59
Speaker 3: So someone comes to me when they're when I'm fifty
1:07:01
Speaker 3: two years old, They're like, we want to see you
1:07:03
Speaker 3: for the first time in seventeen years.
1:07:05
Speaker 7: I'm not going to rule it out, Jeff, Okay, who's
1:07:08
Speaker 7: just who's watching that fight? I got people are going
1:07:10
Speaker 7: to like enamor to watch those two fights. You're gonna
1:07:12
Speaker 7: watch it? I mean I'm not, but you are. Is
1:07:15
Speaker 7: Gina Sono still blackball from Hollywood? Is that still a thing?
1:07:18
Speaker 4: No?
1:07:18
Speaker 3: No, she won her lawsuit against Disney and it sounds
1:07:22
Speaker 3: like they're going to try to find a way to
1:07:23
Speaker 3: get her back into the uh the Star Wars universe.
1:07:27
Speaker 7: Oh okay, I had no idea. Good for her? Yeah,
1:07:30
Speaker 7: those Hollywood liberal elites who want to be in.
1:07:33
Speaker 3: It's kind of like it's kind of like have your
1:07:34
Speaker 3: cake and eat it too for her because she just
1:07:36
Speaker 3: got a big fat check from the Disney Corporation for
1:07:41
Speaker 3: their wrongful black balling and termination from her, and they're
1:07:44
Speaker 3: just like, well, now that the lawsuits.
1:07:46
Speaker 4: Over, we're looking forward to working with Gina again. What
1:07:49
Speaker 4: does she do for? What is?
1:07:50
Speaker 7: What was her role in?
1:07:51
Speaker 3: Uh?
1:07:51
Speaker 7: In Star Wars?
1:07:53
Speaker 4: She was, Oh, man, I love this because Jeff loves
1:07:55
Speaker 4: Star Wars.
1:07:56
Speaker 7: I watched that one. It was good.
1:07:58
Speaker 4: She played She played it like a side character in
1:08:02
Speaker 4: the Mandalorian series.
1:08:04
Speaker 3: Ah, she was Caradone, a former Imperial shock trooper who
1:08:09
Speaker 3: is now part of the rebellion.
1:08:11
Speaker 7: Surprised, I didn't know that.
1:08:12
Speaker 4: I'm really surprised you didn't know that.
1:08:14
Speaker 3: Have you seen the trailer, the new trailer they put
1:08:16
Speaker 3: out for the Mandalorian and Grohu?
1:08:20
Speaker 7: Of course I have. I was looking up those if
1:08:23
Speaker 7: those were real words or not, but they seem to
1:08:25
Speaker 7: be real.
1:08:26
Speaker 6: Your kids are gonna want to Your kids are gonna
1:08:28
Speaker 6: want to see that movie, Jeff, oh O, can.
1:08:30
Speaker 7: I tell you my son broke my heart last night
1:08:31
Speaker 7: in this tiny bit I'm not he'd actually do it,
1:08:33
Speaker 7: but he's wanted to watch The Office. Okay, he's eleven
1:08:37
Speaker 7: and a half and a friend of mine the other
1:08:39
Speaker 7: day brought up that his kids started watching Office about
1:08:41
Speaker 7: that time, so I was like, okay, you know, I've
1:08:43
Speaker 7: watched every episode Office ten times. Like it's really it's
1:08:45
Speaker 7: not that bad for a lot of how he won't
1:08:46
Speaker 7: get the jokes for most part, but the rest of
1:08:49
Speaker 7: it he sort of will understand. And season one is
1:08:52
Speaker 7: pretty rough, all right, it's a tough it's tough. You
1:08:55
Speaker 7: have to stick through it to get to the middle
1:08:56
Speaker 7: of season two basically, and then season three and to
1:08:59
Speaker 7: seven is like the best TV of all time. And
1:09:02
Speaker 7: it's like Norman just couldn't get through the first episode
1:09:05
Speaker 7: last night. I have to I think I have to
1:09:06
Speaker 7: say I wasn't watching with him. I think I have
1:09:08
Speaker 7: to watch with him because that will kind of maybe
1:09:11
Speaker 7: keep him more interested me. The first the first season
1:09:14
Speaker 7: is tough, like it's not you know, Michael Scott's a
1:09:16
Speaker 7: different character. I think I thought about just skipping the
1:09:18
Speaker 7: first season. Nothing that first season really matters for the
1:09:22
Speaker 7: rest of the show other than you see Michael Scott
1:09:24
Speaker 7: change and someone's much nicer spoiler alert. But I I
1:09:29
Speaker 7: was kind of bunned that he was not into it.
1:09:31
Speaker 7: I thought he would be.
1:09:32
Speaker 3: The thing that I was blown away most when I
1:09:34
Speaker 3: went back to rewatch the Office was how different Steve
1:09:38
Speaker 3: Carell looks in season one.
1:09:41
Speaker 7: Okay, so there's a podcast that Kevin Malone Brian Bungernder
1:09:48
Speaker 7: he does called like a Oor History of the Office.
1:09:50
Speaker 7: It's really good. It's like tell episodes, and they talk
1:09:53
Speaker 7: a lot about this about how they basically the first
1:09:56
Speaker 7: season they made Michael Scott like way too angry of
1:10:00
Speaker 7: a boss and like not a nice spirited person, right,
1:10:03
Speaker 7: and then they changed the season two to make him
1:10:05
Speaker 7: They put his hair forward because it was slipped back
1:10:07
Speaker 7: in season one. Yeah, they put their hair forward, and
1:10:09
Speaker 7: then they made him a nicer person. He still had
1:10:11
Speaker 7: the same like sort of mess ups, but he was nicer.
1:10:14
Speaker 7: And they ended this interesting. They ended every episode with
1:10:17
Speaker 7: something positive, like just something like something positive every episode,
1:10:21
Speaker 7: like to end every episode. And when you watch it
1:10:24
Speaker 7: back like that season two moving on, it's did they
1:10:26
Speaker 7: made him a much softer character and then the ouncement
1:10:29
Speaker 7: didn't make him the first season was kind of dumb
1:10:32
Speaker 7: and they decided like he's actually not dumb, he's actually
1:10:34
Speaker 7: good at sales, which he was, you know, for most
1:10:36
Speaker 7: of the show. And if they put that in the
1:10:39
Speaker 7: storyline as well, So it's a good listen, I listen
1:10:41
Speaker 7: to what I want to travel whatnot? Uh, I think
1:10:44
Speaker 7: twice through. So it's a good it's a good podcast.
1:10:46
Speaker 3: It's the real distinction between the British Office and the
1:10:50
Speaker 3: American Office. Like the Ricky Gervai's character in the British
1:10:54
Speaker 3: Office is not likable ever, correct, he's like you just
1:10:59
Speaker 3: the reason you watch is because he's cringey in a
1:11:01
Speaker 3: hatable way and Michael Scott ends up being cringy in
1:11:04
Speaker 3: a lovable way.
1:11:05
Speaker 7: But that's the difference between I think, you know, sort
1:11:07
Speaker 7: of American meat, you know, how we consume and like
1:11:10
Speaker 7: our characters verus English, right, Like that's in England. That
1:11:13
Speaker 7: works in America. They found it just doesn't work that
1:11:16
Speaker 7: way all right.
1:11:17
Speaker 3: Back to actual sports here, the Kansas City Chiefs are
1:11:21
Speaker 3: restructuring Patrick Mahomes contract.
1:11:24
Speaker 4: What does this mean?
1:11:25
Speaker 3: Is this like a big picture oh crap, where our
1:11:29
Speaker 3: dynasty is crumbled and now we have to try to
1:11:31
Speaker 3: fix it. How is it interpreted in the locker room
1:11:34
Speaker 3: and in NFL circles when something like this is necessary
1:11:37
Speaker 3: for a franchise.
1:11:39
Speaker 7: Well, there's seventy million over the cap. That's why they
1:11:41
Speaker 7: did it. And so they're just moving money around to
1:11:43
Speaker 7: afford a roster this season. So you know, he was
1:11:47
Speaker 7: I think he was going to be something like seventy
1:11:50
Speaker 7: million dollars. Maybe they're less, maybe they're fifty million over
1:11:52
Speaker 7: the cap.
1:11:53
Speaker 4: His cap reading fifty seven million over the cap.
1:11:55
Speaker 7: Yeah, and his cap number is like seventy eight million
1:11:57
Speaker 7: dollars a year. No, this is just them pushing money
1:12:00
Speaker 7: to a different year, and you know, the bill come
1:12:02
Speaker 7: to at some point, probably when the team is in
1:12:04
Speaker 7: as good. But you look, Mom's how off an injury
1:12:06
Speaker 7: as you know, as we know, I don't think he'll
1:12:09
Speaker 7: be healthy to start the season. But they certainly, I think,
1:12:11
Speaker 7: feel comfortable with where the team's at. Travis kelce is,
1:12:15
Speaker 7: I think they feel like he's going to be back.
1:12:19
Speaker 7: Ray she Rice has got to go. I think that
1:12:21
Speaker 7: after today and the allegations again of just terrible things.
1:12:26
Speaker 7: You know, he got in trouble was it two years
1:12:29
Speaker 7: two years ago? Two years ago with the speeding right
1:12:31
Speaker 7: and got in a car crash and left the scene
1:12:33
Speaker 7: of a car crash, and now his former significant other
1:12:38
Speaker 7: is is talking to you know, suit him for in
1:12:40
Speaker 7: court for some really terrible things. She alleged. I mean,
1:12:43
Speaker 7: you can't have a young player like that continually get
1:12:45
Speaker 7: in trouble. You just can't do it. So they will
1:12:48
Speaker 7: need some some wide receivers. But they're close to being good.
1:12:51
Speaker 7: Look at AFC. I think we saw this year now
1:12:54
Speaker 7: as competitive is the NFC, right and the Chiefs. As
1:12:57
Speaker 7: long as you have Mahomes, you're still in it. So
1:12:58
Speaker 7: I think they just view this as another way to
1:13:00
Speaker 7: money around and build just a better team around Mahomes
1:13:02
Speaker 7: to you to keep this thing going.
1:13:04
Speaker 3: Okay, this is very specific in the Venn diagram of
1:13:08
Speaker 3: sports and dad life. Okay, yes, I love Christian McCaffrey
1:13:13
Speaker 3: the player, I guess. Christian McCaffrey went on The Rich
1:13:16
Speaker 3: Eisend Show basically said he doesn't change or hasn't changed diapers.
1:13:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was like, dude, that's not cool. I
1:13:23
Speaker 4: don't like that.
1:13:23
Speaker 3: I don't like you as much now because I mean,
1:13:27
Speaker 3: he was like, I owe some diaper changes, but he's
1:13:30
Speaker 3: not going.
1:13:30
Speaker 4: To make up for those lost diaper changes.
1:13:33
Speaker 7: Why does he change a diaper?
1:13:35
Speaker 4: What?
1:13:35
Speaker 7: Why has he done it?
1:13:36
Speaker 1: Oh?
1:13:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, why hasn't he changed diapers?
1:13:39
Speaker 1: Like?
1:13:40
Speaker 7: How is that?
1:13:41
Speaker 3: How is the dad thing handled in NFL locker rooms?
1:13:44
Speaker 3: Like are you encouraged to be the good hands on
1:13:48
Speaker 3: dad or is it like the macho culture of like
1:13:51
Speaker 3: this is the nineteen fifties and leave that to your
1:13:54
Speaker 3: significant other, to your wife, like I need to know.
1:13:57
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I just watched Men Through again and it
1:14:02
Speaker 7: is really like striking, Like how the parents, the dads
1:14:06
Speaker 7: in that show, Like that's what life was, I guess
1:14:08
Speaker 7: probably right in the late sixties, Like you just were
1:14:11
Speaker 7: like kids, dad, Yeah, like you just like worked and
1:14:15
Speaker 7: do whatever you wanted and just showed back up when
1:14:17
Speaker 7: it was time to show back up at home. I mean,
1:14:20
Speaker 7: I think most of us, you know, take as a responsibility.
1:14:25
Speaker 7: I don't. I've never talked to my friends about it,
1:14:26
Speaker 7: but all my friends, to my knowledge, are great parents.
1:14:30
Speaker 7: And of course, you know, great parents can vary depending
1:14:32
Speaker 7: on who is judging that, but I mean, my my
1:14:35
Speaker 7: friends and whatnot seem like they're great parents. You know.
1:14:40
Speaker 7: We heard Joe Judge the other day and if you
1:14:42
Speaker 7: saw that he was testifying for it's a chamblist, and
1:14:45
Speaker 7: he said theming like, basically, I tell the sign iff
1:14:48
Speaker 7: and others that their you know, their their their husband
1:14:51
Speaker 7: or their boyfriend who's playing that playing college football needs
1:14:55
Speaker 7: to sleep during the season, so don't bother them at
1:14:57
Speaker 7: all at nighttime if for bottle chance, bottle for feedings
1:15:00
Speaker 7: and change it is. I just, first of all, I
1:15:03
Speaker 7: think it's inappropriate for a coach to talk to a
1:15:04
Speaker 7: spouse like that, for right, Like that should be the
1:15:06
Speaker 7: spouse's job, if anything. But I just I just kind
1:15:10
Speaker 7: of made me cringe a little bit. I don't know, man, Look,
1:15:13
Speaker 7: certainly sleep as important as we know we know sleep
1:15:16
Speaker 7: is important, right, There's no there's no doubt about that.
1:15:19
Speaker 7: But also that dude, that that bonding time with your kids,
1:15:22
Speaker 7: like during that time, like that's just like an important
1:15:24
Speaker 7: bonding time, right Like, And I just feel like if
1:15:27
Speaker 7: you miss all of that to say I'm never doing this,
1:15:29
Speaker 7: I need to get ready to play football, I think FULK,
1:15:31
Speaker 7: you're missing a lot of opportunities, like for like CHRISTM
1:15:34
Speaker 7: McCaffrey's missing opportunities to be with his young child, right
1:15:37
Speaker 7: and also like you got to you gotta help your
1:15:39
Speaker 7: spouse out. Man. I'm sure they have help, but like,
1:15:42
Speaker 7: it's still I feel like that. You know, you want
1:15:44
Speaker 7: your spouse to feel like you're connected, and you're doing
1:15:47
Speaker 7: this in a partnership and you have gonna change your diapers?
1:15:49
Speaker 7: What what partnership is that.
1:15:52
Speaker 3: It's the first thing i've disliked about Christian McCaffrey's entire
1:15:55
Speaker 3: public image persona, everything I've ever seen from him.
1:15:58
Speaker 7: Well, let him turn the wife off at night. I
1:16:01
Speaker 7: thought that was a little odd.
1:16:02
Speaker 4: But it turns the Wi Fi off at night?
1:16:04
Speaker 7: Yeah. I think Fred Warner said that because they were
1:16:06
Speaker 7: talking about the you know, the electual substation, and he's
1:16:09
Speaker 7: like there, He's like, Christian mccaffree turns his WiFi off
1:16:12
Speaker 7: at night.
1:16:13
Speaker 3: You should And you shouldn't be using Bluetooth headphones either.
1:16:17
Speaker 3: Anybody do you use bluetooth headphones?
1:16:21
Speaker 7: You use wire headphones?
1:16:22
Speaker 4: Yes?
1:16:25
Speaker 3: At all times? Yeah, I don't. I don't have air pods.
1:16:27
Speaker 3: I won't use air pods. I don't like, I don't
1:16:30
Speaker 3: have any. Why not, because, man, I don't want because
1:16:33
Speaker 3: Bluetooth is like radiation going through your brain.
1:16:35
Speaker 7: Man, I'm probably gonna die from being obese if I
1:16:39
Speaker 7: have I'm not worried about it. Bluetooth.
1:16:50
Speaker 3: The nonchalant manner in which you just throw that out
1:16:53
Speaker 3: there is hilarious but also terrible.
1:16:56
Speaker 7: I mean, like, I just I'm just like, oh, okay,
1:16:59
Speaker 7: I just I'm just like maybe I just I need
1:17:02
Speaker 7: to worry about more things like that. I just I
1:17:04
Speaker 7: just don't. I wasn't interesting though. My daughter has she
1:17:11
Speaker 7: had some breeding problems where she just wasn't like able
1:17:14
Speaker 7: to like. It started this year in the fall. She
1:17:17
Speaker 7: wasn't able to read. And she's in the fourth grade.
1:17:19
Speaker 7: She's able to read, but she couldn't like follow, like
1:17:22
Speaker 7: line by line, and she would skip a lot of words.
1:17:24
Speaker 7: And it's kind of odd. And I took I took
1:17:26
Speaker 7: her to I told my friend of mine who said
1:17:28
Speaker 7: her son had the same problem, You'd to go to
1:17:30
Speaker 7: a vision doctor, a vision developmental doctor. So we did,
1:17:33
Speaker 7: and bro it is fascinating. So her eyes like don't
1:17:37
Speaker 7: work with the rest of ours. It's like a neurological
1:17:39
Speaker 7: thing like that she was born with essentially, And so
1:17:42
Speaker 7: she's gonna she started yesterday doing some green light therapy.
1:17:46
Speaker 7: So she wears these like glasses and we have a
1:17:49
Speaker 7: light bulb and she just looks through the like almost
1:17:52
Speaker 7: like they look like three D glasses, right. And I
1:17:55
Speaker 7: watched she did yesterday at the doctor's office, and I
1:17:58
Speaker 7: saw so when basically when you shine a light in
1:18:01
Speaker 7: her eyes, her pupils get small and then immediately get big,
1:18:04
Speaker 7: which I shouldn't do, right, they should stay small. And
1:18:07
Speaker 7: so I watched that she did twenty minutes of this
1:18:09
Speaker 7: and then I saw her eyes did it less right.
1:18:11
Speaker 7: So basically my point was like and the guy was
1:18:14
Speaker 7: telling me, the doctor was like, yeah, I use green
1:18:15
Speaker 7: light therapy like to help me go sleep at night,
1:18:17
Speaker 7: to help me with my immune system. I'm gonna hop
1:18:19
Speaker 7: on some of those new trends if I if I
1:18:21
Speaker 7: can figure out if it's good or not.
1:18:22
Speaker 4: Let's go, man, where I'm going to get a sauna.
1:18:24
Speaker 3: I was been reading some stuff when those you just
1:18:28
Speaker 3: reading stuff about how saunas improve your heart health and
1:18:31
Speaker 3: reduce the likelihood of a myocardial infarction.
1:18:35
Speaker 7: I one of my pet peeves a punt of pet pee.
1:18:39
Speaker 7: I'm this is a very Larry David thing. I see
1:18:42
Speaker 7: these influencers who like work out a couple hours a day,
1:18:44
Speaker 7: maybe thirty minutes a day hour do like they have
1:18:46
Speaker 7: all this recovery stuff at their house, sauna norm attack
1:18:49
Speaker 7: cold home. I'm like, you don't need any of that.
1:18:50
Speaker 7: Can you stop? Please? You just to me stop?
1:18:54
Speaker 4: You only like it if professional athletes haven't.
1:18:57
Speaker 7: I don't think professional athletes.
1:18:59
Speaker 4: Are you gate on? Like the compression leggings.
1:19:02
Speaker 7: I am gate keeping on compression leggings. Oh, compression leggings
1:19:05
Speaker 7: I don't I see personally because I don't like that stuff.
1:19:07
Speaker 7: So maybe that's why I don't look. I'm not into it,
1:19:09
Speaker 7: but I don't want compression leggings, compression tights. Sure like
1:19:12
Speaker 7: the short ones, well sixth centil ones.
1:19:16
Speaker 3: Did you see the wolf dog that ran onto the
1:19:20
Speaker 3: cross country skiing event?
1:19:21
Speaker 7: Okay, I saw one video that I thought it was
1:19:23
Speaker 7: ai that's real.
1:19:25
Speaker 3: Yes, he's a Czechoslovakian wolf dog. His name is Nasgul.
1:19:30
Speaker 3: And I'll give you a dollar if you know where
1:19:32
Speaker 3: Nasgul comes from.
1:19:35
Speaker 7: Sean, you know that I no, no this answer.
1:19:37
Speaker 4: That's why I offered you a doz.
1:19:39
Speaker 7: Is it Star Wars?
1:19:40
Speaker 4: No, it's Lord of the Rings.
1:19:42
Speaker 7: Oh this is another nerd nerdy thing. Yes, my son
1:19:46
Speaker 7: is still not watching Harry Potter. That's it for him.
1:19:49
Speaker 3: You know what, We'll get him there. He's eleven and
1:19:51
Speaker 3: a half twelve thirteen. That's the right time for him
1:19:53
Speaker 3: to get into Lord of the Rings.
1:19:55
Speaker 7: While we've been talking, I've been watching Finland and Switzerland
1:19:59
Speaker 7: play and I have a Finland wager for them to win,
1:20:02
Speaker 7: and they were down to nothing. It's now two to two. Well,
1:20:05
Speaker 7: all we be time. You scored two goals.
1:20:06
Speaker 3: While we're talking, I'm a little upset that the checks
1:20:10
Speaker 3: were not able to get Canada out of the tournament.
1:20:12
Speaker 7: Earlier that was Canada did not play well and one anyways,
1:20:17
Speaker 7: the three on three was electric, buddy. People are angry.
1:20:21
Speaker 7: That's how they're they're they're determining these games at the end.
1:20:23
Speaker 7: But I don't know, man, it was for a non
1:20:25
Speaker 7: ball nowhere like myself. Three on three looked like a lot.
1:20:27
Speaker 7: It was pretty fun to watch.
1:20:30
Speaker 3: I've I've kept you over time again, which is just
1:20:33
Speaker 3: something I do every time we bring.
1:20:36
Speaker 7: You nothing to do, so.
1:20:40
Speaker 3: Go play some video games or whatever buys later.
1:20:45
Speaker 4: That's Jeff Schwartz. He's the best.
1:20:50
Speaker 3: We got a lot to get into on the daily Dump,
1:20:53
Speaker 3: including the the Canine appearance at the Olympics. It's the
1:20:58
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Speaker 5: Oh see, the most impressive part of that story is that, well,
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Speaker 5: you were chatting it didn't You didn't go, hey, i've
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Speaker 5: twelve question mark didn't because you were thinking about what
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Speaker 5: have happened.
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
1:23:12
Speaker 3: I didn't listen back to that show. All right, We've
1:23:17
Speaker 3: got USA men's hockey and Sweden and quarterfinal action starting
1:23:22
Speaker 3: moments from now. Canada had their scare against Chechia or
1:23:28
Speaker 3: hoping that Team USA can handle business against Sweden and
1:23:31
Speaker 3: advance women's hockey. The gold medal game will be USA
1:23:37
Speaker 3: versus Canada. That's tomorrow. That's tomorrow afternoon.
1:23:42
Speaker 4: I believe it.
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Speaker 5: I believe you'd be around one o'clock. And by the way,
1:23:47
Speaker 5: hopefully things turn out the way they did in the
1:23:50
Speaker 5: pulmonary round, because that was a five well five nothing
1:23:53
Speaker 5: shut out for Team USA. So I'm told that Canada's
1:23:58
Speaker 5: best player, one of their best players certainly was not
1:24:03
Speaker 5: was did not play in that first game though, So
1:24:07
Speaker 5: we'll see how much of a difference that makes for
1:24:10
Speaker 5: the fighting maple leafs there, but we'll but you gotta
1:24:13
Speaker 5: feel good if your Team USA.
1:24:14
Speaker 3: There's apparently also a like a romantic connection between one
1:24:18
Speaker 3: of the Canada players and one of the Team USA
1:24:21
Speaker 3: players really that they recently had a relationship end. So
1:24:28
Speaker 3: it's valries even more heated battle of the x'es, and
1:24:32
Speaker 3: that could add That's not something they're going to lean
1:24:35
Speaker 3: into on an Olympic broadcast, obviously, because the Olympics definitely
1:24:40
Speaker 3: conducts their broadcasting a certain way.
1:24:42
Speaker 4: They're above all that.
1:24:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're above all the the TMZ stuff, but
1:24:46
Speaker 3: it's there.
1:24:47
Speaker 5: They've I bet I bet it gets mentioned once. It
1:24:51
Speaker 5: better get mentioned at least once. I bet it gets mentioned.
1:24:54
Speaker 5: But they don't. They're not gonna dwell on it, for sure,
1:24:56
Speaker 5: They're gonna they're the purity of the game. Were above
1:25:00
Speaker 5: the TMZ rivalry thing going on here.
1:25:07
Speaker 4: If you listened.
1:25:08
Speaker 3: At the top of the show, Mitch Marner helped Canada
1:25:11
Speaker 3: cap off a comeback win against Checkia in overtime to
1:25:16
Speaker 3: remain in this Olympic tournament. They were on the brink
1:25:19
Speaker 3: of elimination, scored an equalizer in the third period, and
1:25:22
Speaker 3: then got a backhander in overtime about what was it.
1:25:29
Speaker 4: Two three minutes into overtime, So.
1:25:34
Speaker 3: Unfortunately the checks were not able to eliminate Team Canada.
1:25:38
Speaker 4: And you're gonna have to deal with them yourself. USA.
1:25:40
Speaker 5: Let's get impressive, impressive comeback by Canada. Best team in
1:25:45
Speaker 5: the world until they're not right, and hopefully that's next
1:25:50
Speaker 5: time the US faces them in the gold medal game,
1:25:52
Speaker 5: if not before. But yeah, impressive comeback. It was three
1:25:56
Speaker 5: to two with what three minutes left, so the chs
1:26:00
Speaker 5: were leading. So that yeah, that's I don't know the
1:26:03
Speaker 5: last time Canada men's hockey has had has been that
1:26:08
Speaker 5: close to being eliminated. It probably has been a long time.
1:26:10
Speaker 5: So impressive by the Checks to get them on the
1:26:13
Speaker 5: brink of elimination, but unfortunately for them, they were not
1:26:16
Speaker 5: able to follow through and send the champs home.
1:26:19
Speaker 3: Okay, I know that we do not share a conference,
1:26:23
Speaker 3: a basketball conference, a football conference, at anything conference with
1:26:27
Speaker 3: UCLA anymore, but I hope that just for the entertainment factor,
1:26:31
Speaker 3: people out there are still paying attention to Mick cronin.
1:26:36
Speaker 3: He has been one of the gifts that keeps on
1:26:38
Speaker 3: giving in college hoops and McK cronin if you remember
1:26:42
Speaker 3: back to the vacancy at UCLA, he was like option
1:26:47
Speaker 3: number six or seven for the UCLA Bruins and mc
1:26:52
Speaker 3: cronin ended up having a couple of really really good
1:26:55
Speaker 3: years that quieted all the conversation about how he was
1:26:58
Speaker 3: not their first choice. But now mc cronan I think
1:27:03
Speaker 3: might just be positioning himself deliberately to be a media guy.
1:27:08
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a very smart individual, so there's no
1:27:11
Speaker 3: way that he's just not giving this any kind of forethought.
1:27:16
Speaker 3: I genuinely do believe that Mick cronan is trying to
1:27:20
Speaker 3: be as controversial as possible this year at UCLA, a
1:27:24
Speaker 3: year where they are not going to win anything significant,
1:27:28
Speaker 3: and I think he's doing it so that his volatility
1:27:32
Speaker 3: will be the thing that people remember about him most,
1:27:35
Speaker 3: which will get him a better media gig. If you're
1:27:38
Speaker 3: opinionated in your brash, and you're loud, and you say
1:27:41
Speaker 3: things that other coaches are not willing to say, that
1:27:45
Speaker 3: could be a strike against you when it comes to
1:27:50
Speaker 3: having a new job taking over another blue blood type program.
1:27:55
Speaker 3: Athletic directors and university presidents and whatever, they might not
1:27:58
Speaker 3: want to deal with that. But you know who loves it, ESPN, NBC, CBS,
1:28:07
Speaker 3: Amazon Prime, whoever. I really believe that's what mc cronin
1:28:11
Speaker 3: is doing. He ejected his own player last night. Did
1:28:14
Speaker 3: you see this, James?
1:28:16
Speaker 4: I did?
1:28:17
Speaker 3: UCLA playing a basketball game, doing the thing they're supposed
1:28:24
Speaker 3: to do, competing hard, and he has a player assessed
1:28:29
Speaker 3: a flagrant foul, and rather than leaving it to anybody
1:28:33
Speaker 3: else to adjudicate the punishment for that, Mick cronin in
1:28:36
Speaker 3: what was ultimately a loss to Michigan State, ted up
1:28:40
Speaker 3: his own guy effectively and sent him to the locker room.
1:28:43
Speaker 3: And the wild thing is there was very little resistance.
1:28:49
Speaker 3: There was very little pushback or anger from the player,
1:28:53
Speaker 3: who I think everyone around mc cronin now just realizes,
1:28:57
Speaker 3: you know what.
1:28:57
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna fight this battle with coach now.
1:29:01
Speaker 4: There's just absolutely no way that this is.
1:29:09
Speaker 3: Smiled upon at at UCLA, they're in a situation where
1:29:13
Speaker 3: they can't afford to pay buyouts right now, and maybe
1:29:16
Speaker 3: his job is safer because of that. But this was
1:29:20
Speaker 3: a I'm sure it's happened before. I've never seen it happen.
1:29:23
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's happened before where a coach was the
1:29:26
Speaker 3: one who made the decision to send a player to
1:29:28
Speaker 3: the locker room, not the referees. Bobby Knight had to
1:29:30
Speaker 3: have done it a few times, right, I would imagine, so.
1:29:35
Speaker 4: That he did it.
1:29:37
Speaker 5: That was like baseball umpire rejection too, by the way,
1:29:39
Speaker 5: because obviously he's not gonna do technical foulure out of here.
1:29:42
Speaker 5: He just did the finger to the to the locker room.
1:29:46
Speaker 4: He just just go I mean, what what is the
1:29:50
Speaker 4: end game if you're Mick Cronin.
1:29:52
Speaker 5: Seriously, we can't tolerate flagrant fouls down twenty seven, my guy,
1:29:56
Speaker 5: we cannot tolerate.
1:29:57
Speaker 3: I don't understand, like I really think. As I was
1:30:00
Speaker 3: looking at this as I you know, because I saw
1:30:02
Speaker 3: it as a highlight like.
1:30:03
Speaker 4: Everyone else did, I'm like, what is he doing?
1:30:06
Speaker 3: And then you watch it and you're like, Okay, he
1:30:08
Speaker 3: genuinely is someone that is just trying to ruffle feed.
1:30:13
Speaker 4: Maybe he wants to be fired.
1:30:17
Speaker 3: So he can just like you know, most coaches are
1:30:19
Speaker 3: not like this, But maybe he wants to be fired
1:30:21
Speaker 3: so they have to pay his buyout and he can
1:30:23
Speaker 3: just go sit on a beach somewhere for a couple
1:30:25
Speaker 3: of years before coming back and taking a television job.
1:30:27
Speaker 5: Mick Cronan someone that can't even relax on a beach,
1:30:30
Speaker 5: though he might a kind of I mean, my thinks
1:30:35
Speaker 5: to criticize about the way people are being on the
1:30:38
Speaker 5: beach around him.
1:30:39
Speaker 3: The fun The funny thing about it is Mick Cronin
1:30:42
Speaker 3: has complained about his team loudly and aggressively and repeatedly
1:30:47
Speaker 3: this year, even after wins. Yeah, now, when you get
1:30:50
Speaker 3: spanked by Michigan State, he's going to have something to say.
1:30:54
Speaker 3: But even after wins, he's been just like this, these guys,
1:30:58
Speaker 3: I need better, I needmore these guys. Isn't said they stink,
1:31:02
Speaker 3: but he's been loud and angry about the way that
1:31:05
Speaker 3: college basketball is and about his own team, even after
1:31:10
Speaker 3: victorious performances at least three times this year.
1:31:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he doesn't.
1:31:15
Speaker 5: He hasn't said they stink because he saw what happened
1:31:18
Speaker 5: to Jerome Tang. I'm gonna hold back on saying you
1:31:21
Speaker 5: stink because I want I don't want to be fired
1:31:24
Speaker 5: for cause.
1:31:25
Speaker 3: UCLA is five and a half games out of first
1:31:27
Speaker 3: place in the Big Ten. They're seventeen to nine so
1:31:30
Speaker 3: far on the season. They've lost back to back games
1:31:32
Speaker 3: to Michigan and Michigan State. They've got Illinois next, that's
1:31:36
Speaker 3: a top ten team right now. They finish out with
1:31:39
Speaker 3: USC twice, Minnesota and Nebraska sandwiched in there. And one
1:31:43
Speaker 3: of the hilarious things that mc cronin has complained about
1:31:48
Speaker 3: is having to travel and play on the road in
1:31:51
Speaker 3: the Big Ten. UCLA and USC are the reason that college.
1:31:59
Speaker 4: Sports are no longer regional.
1:32:03
Speaker 3: You cannot complain as a member of either of those institutions.
1:32:06
Speaker 3: You have to take the medicine, and you can whind
1:32:10
Speaker 3: about it privately, but do not bring us publicly any
1:32:13
Speaker 3: kind of problem. He's getting mad at reporters. The guy
1:32:18
Speaker 3: is just an absolute wild card right now at UCLA.
1:32:23
Speaker 3: This is a West Coast blue blood program that needs
1:32:27
Speaker 3: to see a return to glory sooner than later. It
1:32:30
Speaker 3: has not worked out in football in the Big Ten
1:32:32
Speaker 3: because we said it wouldn't. We knew it wouldn't. It
1:32:34
Speaker 3: has not worked out all that well in basketball in
1:32:36
Speaker 3: the Big Ten, and it doesn't look to be going
1:32:39
Speaker 3: great this year. You got the same record as Iowa
1:32:44
Speaker 3: in Conference.
1:32:47
Speaker 4: Mc cronin. I respect it, I love it.
1:32:51
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see you sitting on an analyst
1:32:53
Speaker 3: desk at halftime of an NCAA tournament sooner than later,
1:32:59
Speaker 3: ejecting your own players, picking fights with reporters, complaining about travel.
1:33:05
Speaker 4: That's a trifecta.
1:33:07
Speaker 3: And he's hit the super fact that he's done a
1:33:09
Speaker 3: bunch of stuff after like, oh we won this game.
1:33:11
Speaker 4: Let me tell you what I don't like, Mick Crone.
1:33:14
Speaker 4: We got to get him on.
1:33:15
Speaker 3: Will you call him Friday at one thirty so we
1:33:17
Speaker 3: can get him on for the airing of grievances, and.
1:33:19
Speaker 5: We won't even tell him it's airing of grievances. We'll
1:33:22
Speaker 5: just say McK cronin on the show, and then he'll.
1:33:24
Speaker 3: Just he'll he'll be the best airing of grievances since
1:33:28
Speaker 3: Sarah Todd, which you know, it's it's about time we
1:33:32
Speaker 3: get her back on to air some grievances too.
1:33:34
Speaker 4: She wants to.
1:33:35
Speaker 3: We just need to bring her on exclusively for the
1:33:38
Speaker 3: airing of grievances. It can be Sarah Todd as a
1:33:42
Speaker 3: regular contributor. Sauna updates from down in Utah County. Shout
1:33:46
Speaker 3: out to Alec from Vineyard Alec. We're expecting an update
1:33:51
Speaker 3: on Friday. By the way, what.
1:33:55
Speaker 5: What else could go wrong in this sauna that Alec frequents?
1:33:58
Speaker 3: By the way, you don't want to know the answer
1:34:00
Speaker 3: to that question. What else can go wrong in the sauna?
1:34:04
Speaker 3: Is it endless possibility? That's a good point, all right.
1:34:07
Speaker 3: We got my dog Rocky sitting here under the desk
1:34:10
Speaker 3: right now, a Broadway sitting.
1:34:12
Speaker 5: He's made a couple of appearances on the on the
1:34:14
Speaker 5: YouTube channel, just the little smidgeons of of of Rocky.
1:34:19
Speaker 4: I get him I buy him these marrow bones.
1:34:21
Speaker 3: They're like a cross section of a of a beef
1:34:23
Speaker 3: shin that they cut out right and normally they last
1:34:27
Speaker 3: him like a decent amount of time. He has just
1:34:30
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1:34:34
Speaker 3: Let's be hungry anyway, because Rocky is here a canine
1:34:38
Speaker 3: story from the Olympics. You saw Nasghoul the Czechoslovakia and
1:34:42
Speaker 3: wolfhound run onto the course and finish the race the
1:34:47
Speaker 3: in Milano Cortina.
1:34:48
Speaker 4: Not many better.
1:34:49
Speaker 5: Names for it for a dog, by the way, then
1:34:53
Speaker 5: nas Look, I love the name.
1:34:57
Speaker 3: I In naming a dog or naming a child, you all,
1:35:01
Speaker 3: you always have to kind of try it on for size.
1:35:04
Speaker 4: Right.
1:35:05
Speaker 3: You should never name your dog something like mow or
1:35:09
Speaker 3: bow because it sounds too much like no when you're yelling.
1:35:12
Speaker 4: Ah yeah, all right, okay, you.
1:35:14
Speaker 3: Can't name you like I named my dog. My previous
1:35:17
Speaker 3: dog was, mister President. You gotta know what you're gonna
1:35:20
Speaker 3: shorten it. You're not gonna yell when he runs away,
1:35:21
Speaker 3: mister President and get back.
1:35:23
Speaker 4: Here, you know what I mean?
1:35:25
Speaker 3: An important, the very important issue is just hit your desk,
1:35:29
Speaker 3: mister President, Your excellency.
1:35:31
Speaker 4: Come on, like you have to.
1:35:32
Speaker 3: You gotta try all these things on for side press, right, yeah,
1:35:35
Speaker 3: we we shorten it to press everyone nem was Press
1:35:37
Speaker 3: presents great, great dog, wonderful dog. Nasghoul is one of
1:35:41
Speaker 3: those ones that's an amazing like it's a great reference point. Yeah,
1:35:45
Speaker 3: it's a cool character. It's very fierce and scary to
1:35:49
Speaker 3: be named after.
1:35:50
Speaker 4: And if you don't know what we're talking about, like google.
1:35:54
Speaker 3: Spoiler alert, it's from the Lord of the Rings. Don't
1:35:56
Speaker 3: tell them how it ends. It's only been out for
1:35:59
Speaker 3: a century plus. Okay, don't know, don't wear the ring,
1:36:04
Speaker 3: don't don't tell anyone what happens to the Nasgoul, all right,
1:36:09
Speaker 3: but Nasgol is, like especially now, a really scary character, right,
1:36:14
Speaker 3: so it's cool. You gotta this dog that's it looks
1:36:16
Speaker 3: like a wolf, a dark dragon type thing. He looks
1:36:19
Speaker 3: like a wolf. His name is now, he's a he's
1:36:22
Speaker 3: a Czechoslovakia. You just call him nas for short, right,
1:36:25
Speaker 3: I guess you probably do. But that's a that's a
1:36:29
Speaker 3: mouthful anytime. And also can you imagine explaining it to
1:36:35
Speaker 3: people who are not Lord of the Rings, Which is fine,
1:36:38
Speaker 3: it's totally I'm not saying, don't name your noggets a dog.
1:36:41
Speaker 4: It's a cool evil dragon thing from Lord of the Rings.
1:36:46
Speaker 3: I'm also, I mean, this dog is not he doesn't
1:36:49
Speaker 3: live in the United States of America, right, He's in Italy.
1:36:52
Speaker 3: It's an Italian dog, is it? Does it nasgoul sound
1:36:56
Speaker 3: any different in Italian?
1:36:59
Speaker 7: A ghoul?
1:37:00
Speaker 4: And I was like, gabba.
1:37:04
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's give me the gabba gul.
1:37:08
Speaker 5: If it's not hot, I send it back.
1:37:09
Speaker 4: Is there is there any sweet office reference? Again?
1:37:14
Speaker 3: Is there any word in Italian that sounds like nasgul
1:37:20
Speaker 3: that could be confusing as to the fact you were
1:37:22
Speaker 3: naming it after the Lord of the Rings character.
1:37:24
Speaker 4: I don't know.
1:37:25
Speaker 3: I hope it's close to some because nasguul and the
1:37:27
Speaker 3: English language is that it's just that, it's nothing else.
1:37:30
Speaker 5: It's it's it's a made up word. By by J. R. R.
1:37:34
Speaker 4: Tolkien.
1:37:35
Speaker 3: Also special shout out to all the people at the
1:37:37
Speaker 3: Olympics and on the broadcast that immediately found out not
1:37:41
Speaker 3: only the dog, the breed of the dog, everything about
1:37:43
Speaker 3: the dog.
1:37:44
Speaker 4: They knew in that moment. They're just like, this dog
1:37:46
Speaker 4: is going to be a star for.
1:37:47
Speaker 5: It's those Olympic researchers that Dan Patrick shouted at and
1:37:51
Speaker 5: Mike Turico shouted out on the show's right, which you
1:37:55
Speaker 5: can hear seven to ten daily here on ESPN seven hundred.
1:37:58
Speaker 3: It's probably wonderful to just be at that level of
1:38:03
Speaker 3: stardom in our sports media world where you just show
1:38:05
Speaker 3: up looking nice and somebody hands you all the information
1:38:09
Speaker 3: that you need.
1:38:10
Speaker 5: Or or you need it right in that moment. They
1:38:13
Speaker 5: just tell it to you in your ear. Yeah, yeah,
1:38:15
Speaker 5: it's a Czechoslovakian what'd you say, shepherd wolfound wolfound, Czechoslovakian wolf.
1:38:20
Speaker 1: Found.
1:38:21
Speaker 4: The only danger there, that's your lord of the rings.
1:38:24
Speaker 3: The only danger there is that you have to make
1:38:27
Speaker 3: sure you trust that person or else you could think
1:38:29
Speaker 3: of ron Bergen to you, you know what I mean?
1:38:32
Speaker 3: This is actually a wild coyote and then you look
1:38:35
Speaker 3: like an idiot.
1:38:39
Speaker 5: Actually do they have coyotes in Europe? I think they're American.
1:38:44
Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken.
1:38:48
Speaker 3: There are no wild coyotes native or living in Europe.
1:38:52
Speaker 4: Oh wow, or living. That's that's dark.
1:38:55
Speaker 3: They are exclusively found in North and Central America. However,
1:38:59
Speaker 3: Europe has a similar predator called the golden jackal. Oh,
1:39:03
Speaker 3: which fills the same ecological niche as the coyote, Greece, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria,
1:39:10
Speaker 3: as far north as Estonia and Denmark. The golden jackal
1:39:15
Speaker 3: is the European equivalent. So people in Italy might have
1:39:18
Speaker 3: thought that Nasgul was a golden jackal.
1:39:21
Speaker 4: He's not.
1:39:21
Speaker 3: He's a Czechoslovakian wolfhound. All right, Glad we cleared that up.
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Speaker 3: We got some men's hockey highlights in front of US
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Speaker 3: Finland three to two over Switzerland. Congrats the Jeff's on
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Speaker 3: his wager cashing there Canada with the overtime comeback against
1:42:06
Speaker 3: Checkia to stay in the tournament elimination game coming with
1:42:10
Speaker 3: Team USA against Sweden. Adrian Denny's going to join us
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Speaker 3: right here in our Broadway studios for between the pipes
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Speaker 3: to talk a little hockey Olympic mammoth and otherwise it's
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Speaker 1: You were listening to about Sean O'Connell show, your source
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Speaker 1: one am.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Shan O'Connell Show on a snowy
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Speaker 3: Wednesday here in Salt Lake City.
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Speaker 4: Welcome in our good friend Utah Mammoth and now Olympic
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Speaker 4: Hockey insider.
1:43:00
Speaker 3: Adrian Denny between the pipes, brought to you by a
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Speaker 4: Adrian, Welcome. How are you, hey, Sean. Great to be
1:43:09
Speaker 4: with you again. Great to be with you.
1:43:11
Speaker 3: We got a little tbusa sve then elimination game coming.
1:43:15
Speaker 3: Uh puck dropping momentarily here, so we'll be both be
1:43:19
Speaker 3: somewhat distracted, I suppose while we're trying to have a
1:43:21
Speaker 3: little conversation on radio. Finland advances with a win over Switzerland.
1:43:27
Speaker 3: Canada with the come from behind overtime victory against Checkia.
1:43:34
Speaker 3: Is that game a lot closer than you thought it
1:43:36
Speaker 3: was gonna be?
1:43:37
Speaker 8: They beat him five nothing last week, that's right, right,
1:43:41
Speaker 8: and it's two to one check Ya after one, Canada
1:43:46
Speaker 8: tied it up and I got check Ya was out
1:43:50
Speaker 8: playing him. You could feel that they were going to
1:43:53
Speaker 8: get the lead back in that game, and then they
1:43:56
Speaker 8: get the lead with seven minutes or so laughed and
1:44:00
Speaker 8: all right, well, Canada is gonna get one late and
1:44:02
Speaker 8: probably get another one. Twenty seconds after that, it went
1:44:05
Speaker 8: to the three on three Jordan Binnington and had to
1:44:08
Speaker 8: make a couple big stays there before that ridiculous move
1:44:12
Speaker 8: by Mitch marn Or skating through three guys and backhanding
1:44:16
Speaker 8: one that found the back of the that it was.
1:44:19
Speaker 4: It was a fun game, right.
1:44:20
Speaker 8: If you're an American root for Team USA, you're rooting
1:44:23
Speaker 8: for Canada to lose, right, because it's what we do.
1:44:26
Speaker 8: But I thought, if Canada isn't gonna lose, at least
1:44:30
Speaker 8: it was a fun game.
1:44:32
Speaker 4: It was a really fun game.
1:44:34
Speaker 3: And I do that sentiment we were talking about it, right,
1:44:37
Speaker 3: like it'd be nice to just have Canada out of
1:44:39
Speaker 3: the way, but also you want to win this gold
1:44:43
Speaker 3: medal by beating Canada. There is that element to it, right,
1:44:46
Speaker 3: best on best. This is why we watch Olympic hockey.
1:44:49
Speaker 3: This is what we want to see, why the Four
1:44:51
Speaker 3: Nations was so fun, That's why you love the Stanley
1:44:54
Speaker 3: Cup playoffs. You want it to be best on best
1:44:56
Speaker 3: for the highest stakes, and so the hope is, obviously
1:45:00
Speaker 3: they can get past a really good Sweden team to
1:45:03
Speaker 3: take on Canada later on in this tournament.
1:45:05
Speaker 4: Hopefully, you know, you end up winning a gold medal
1:45:08
Speaker 4: because you're able to beat Canada.
1:45:10
Speaker 8: Yeah, so that's that's the story, right, that's what's expected
1:45:13
Speaker 8: to happen. But you know you're thinking, oh, we were
1:45:16
Speaker 8: talking about it last week. Oh, there's so much pressure
1:45:19
Speaker 8: on them. There's so much internal pressure if they bow
1:45:22
Speaker 8: out and don't even play for a medal and they're
1:45:25
Speaker 8: done in the quarters. It was close. You knew they
1:45:28
Speaker 8: were going to come back and do it. And Sydney
1:45:30
Speaker 8: Crosby got hurt in the second period and they didn't
1:45:33
Speaker 8: want his Olympic career to end like that. So you
1:45:37
Speaker 8: always kind of had a feeling that Canada was going
1:45:40
Speaker 8: to win that game. But for the US today, boy,
1:45:43
Speaker 8: if that doesn't say watch out for Sweden, a team
1:45:47
Speaker 8: that they've never beaten in the Olympics with NHL players.
1:45:52
Speaker 8: United States is zero to two against Sweden with NHL ers,
1:45:57
Speaker 8: and they lost to them the last time they played
1:45:59
Speaker 8: with HL is in the Four Nations face off, by
1:46:01
Speaker 8: account of two to one. So Sweden, who entered the
1:46:07
Speaker 8: quarterfinals the play in as a seventh seed, was the
1:46:12
Speaker 8: third highest favorite to win goal behind Canada and the
1:46:16
Speaker 8: United States. So this could be a good one too.
1:46:21
Speaker 8: It'll be Hellibuck and gold today for the for Team USA. Right, Yep,
1:46:25
Speaker 8: he's gonna get the start, you know. Jordan Bennington for Canada,
1:46:29
Speaker 8: he's kind of that guy that.
1:46:33
Speaker 4: I don't know.
1:46:33
Speaker 8: He wins big games right Game seven of the Stanley
1:46:36
Speaker 8: Cup with Saint Louis, overtime in the Four Nations face
1:46:40
Speaker 8: off last year. But he's eight seventeen and six with
1:46:43
Speaker 8: the Saint Louis Blues this year. And John Cooper, the
1:46:48
Speaker 8: head coach for Team Canada, said that he decided about
1:46:51
Speaker 8: three hundred and sixty days ago that Jordan Bennington would
1:46:54
Speaker 8: be their starter and take him in the Olympics. Connor Hellibuck,
1:46:59
Speaker 8: on the hand, has been named the best goalie in
1:47:02
Speaker 8: the NHL multiple times, but he's got the reputation for
1:47:07
Speaker 8: not being able to win the big game. The Jets
1:47:10
Speaker 8: have never really advanced in the playoffs. You look at
1:47:14
Speaker 8: Four Nations last year, so this is kind of his
1:47:18
Speaker 8: chance here to win a big game, wins some big
1:47:22
Speaker 8: games in between the pipes because he's he's got that
1:47:24
Speaker 8: great record, that great reputation. But not in big games.
1:47:28
Speaker 8: He's giving up a goal of game.
1:47:30
Speaker 3: So far in the Olympics, he's ninety five percent saves.
1:47:34
Speaker 3: He's played well in this Olympic tournament so far. Of course,
1:47:38
Speaker 3: if you're listening in Salt Lake City and you're gearing
1:47:40
Speaker 3: up to watch Team USA play hockey, the number one
1:47:44
Speaker 3: question you have is will Clayton Keller be involved in
1:47:47
Speaker 3: this game against Sweden.
1:47:49
Speaker 8: Looks like he's going to be there on that third
1:47:51
Speaker 8: line replacing Kyle Connor for Winnipeg. Who's a guy that
1:47:55
Speaker 8: you'd know who he was if he didn't play for
1:47:57
Speaker 8: the Winnipeg Jets.
1:47:58
Speaker 4: He's their leading.
1:47:59
Speaker 8: Score or over a point a game, just about a
1:48:02
Speaker 8: point in game every season. He's been in the NHL
1:48:05
Speaker 8: for about a decade. So that's the spot that Clayton
1:48:08
Speaker 8: Keller is taking on the third line. And we talked
1:48:11
Speaker 8: about how this Team USA team has been arranged. Right,
1:48:15
Speaker 8: it's not just an all star team. It's not just
1:48:17
Speaker 8: skill guys. They have their top six forwards, their skill guys.
1:48:21
Speaker 8: They've got some meat and potatoes. They're strong defensively. So
1:48:24
Speaker 8: they were put together as you put together a hockey team,
1:48:28
Speaker 8: not necessarily a dream team. A fantasy team, and so
1:48:32
Speaker 8: Keller not playing the first couple of games. Right, there's
1:48:35
Speaker 8: a lot of skilled players for tv USA, of which
1:48:39
Speaker 8: he is one, but to crack that top six with
1:48:42
Speaker 8: the game he plays didn't happen. Initially, we thought it
1:48:46
Speaker 8: might happen for game two. It happened for Game three
1:48:49
Speaker 8: and the United States a convincing win against Germany. So
1:48:52
Speaker 8: he's gonna stay in today, play on that third line
1:48:55
Speaker 8: with Tage Thompson we won that World championship with last
1:49:00
Speaker 8: and playing with Dylan Larkin, who's another guy he's played
1:49:03
Speaker 8: internationally with. So that's what the third line is going
1:49:06
Speaker 8: to consist of there for Clayton Keller, who hey, you're
1:49:10
Speaker 8: you're in this right now. It's win and you keep
1:49:13
Speaker 8: going basically, So looks like Keller will be in the
1:49:16
Speaker 8: lineup the rest of the way for Team USA.
1:49:19
Speaker 3: The puck has dropped, Jack I called one the opening
1:49:22
Speaker 3: face off, and we're underway, twenty seconds down and counting
1:49:26
Speaker 3: as Team USA takes on Sweden in an elimination game
1:49:30
Speaker 3: Milano Cortina Winter Olympics, and as Adrian just mentioned, we'll
1:49:36
Speaker 3: see Clayton Keller on the third line. You got some
1:49:39
Speaker 3: Kachucks with Kling Company on that opening line. How much
1:49:45
Speaker 3: do you expect if you can make it past today,
1:49:48
Speaker 3: how much do you expect those those lines to continue
1:49:51
Speaker 3: to be like reshuffled. We talked about this at the
1:49:53
Speaker 3: beginning of the tournament. How consistent you're going to keep
1:49:56
Speaker 3: a lineup when it's effectively all star teams playing all
1:50:00
Speaker 3: star teams and figuring out ways to get the most
1:50:02
Speaker 3: out of each person is sometimes who they're skating with.
1:50:05
Speaker 3: So you know, three games in, this is the fourth
1:50:08
Speaker 3: or are we gonna see Team USA kind of settle
1:50:10
Speaker 3: into a regular rotation.
1:50:12
Speaker 4: I think this is it.
1:50:13
Speaker 8: I think this is what they're they're going with, unless,
1:50:17
Speaker 8: oh see, they're able to dress an extra forward and
1:50:20
Speaker 8: an defenceman in the Olympics. Right in the NHL, if
1:50:23
Speaker 8: a player gets hurt in the middle of the game,
1:50:25
Speaker 8: you play short, you're short a defenseman, you're short of forward.
1:50:28
Speaker 8: You're playing eleven forwards, seven, five, six, defenseman, whatever whatever
1:50:34
Speaker 8: it is. But here each team has an extra forward
1:50:36
Speaker 8: or defenseman. So the only way that you think that
1:50:39
Speaker 8: would change is if Tbuosa falls behind two nothing, three
1:50:42
Speaker 8: nothing and Mike Sullivan's like to shake up the lines
1:50:45
Speaker 8: here does something that clicks and you take that into
1:50:50
Speaker 8: the next game with you. But but outside of that,
1:50:53
Speaker 8: you're you're gonna be rolling the what you have here
1:50:57
Speaker 8: going in the pool play?
1:50:59
Speaker 4: Was your chance? All right?
1:51:01
Speaker 8: Three games in four day's keep everybody fresh. See if
1:51:04
Speaker 8: there's something else that we have that we didn't know,
1:51:07
Speaker 8: like Clayton Keller coming in who wasn't part of the
1:51:09
Speaker 8: Four Nations team last year. But unless something goes south
1:51:15
Speaker 8: and then gets right, I don't think he'll change anything.
1:51:20
Speaker 3: As I mean in pool play, won all three games?
1:51:24
Speaker 3: Maximize your points, et cetera, et cetera. Did the team
1:51:28
Speaker 3: play up to your expectation? Did we get out of
1:51:31
Speaker 3: the team USA from a goal scoring perspective, from a
1:51:33
Speaker 3: defensive perspective, from a goal tending perspective. Did they play
1:51:37
Speaker 3: up to the level you thought is necessary in order.
1:51:40
Speaker 4: For them to come away with the gold? Well?
1:51:42
Speaker 8: They got some changes made in Milano with Jeremy Swayman
1:51:48
Speaker 8: having that puck go in from center ice, and they
1:51:52
Speaker 8: had the blackboards that or the blackboards that matched the
1:51:57
Speaker 8: color of the puck, so they got that handled. That
1:52:02
Speaker 8: was the first situation, right because the goalie can see
1:52:05
Speaker 8: the puck because the boards were black. Outside of that,
1:52:09
Speaker 8: you're playing Latvia, you're playing Denmark. As we talked about,
1:52:13
Speaker 8: you know, kind of a kind of a scrimmage situation
1:52:16
Speaker 8: for me. And then then you see Germany and that's
1:52:18
Speaker 8: when they really kind of turned it on and pulled
1:52:22
Speaker 8: away for me. We saw it in the Canada Chechia game.
1:52:26
Speaker 8: Hockey is a game I think where if you're playing
1:52:32
Speaker 8: a team from the same league, if you get good goaltending,
1:52:36
Speaker 8: if you play hard, if you have a good game plan,
1:52:39
Speaker 8: you're gonna have a chance to win the game. In
1:52:41
Speaker 8: the NHL, if you're just an okay team, I think
1:52:45
Speaker 8: you can be a five hundred team if you've got
1:52:48
Speaker 8: those three things. Good goaltending, you play hard every night,
1:52:51
Speaker 8: and you've got good coaching. I think we saw that
1:52:54
Speaker 8: in Canada Chechia against Latvia and Denmark. For the US,
1:53:02
Speaker 8: as we said, I thought it was a really overmatching
1:53:06
Speaker 8: situation where how good are they gonna feel regardless of
1:53:10
Speaker 8: what happens in those two games, just with the disparity
1:53:15
Speaker 8: they I mean, both those teams had NHL players. But
1:53:18
Speaker 8: then you see Germany, Okay, Lean Drysidel, that's the real deal.
1:53:22
Speaker 8: JJ Peterka was out there and I think they felt
1:53:25
Speaker 8: good about that game. Coming into now elimination games after today,
1:53:31
Speaker 8: they'll be playing for a medal.
1:53:33
Speaker 3: Tmosa now twenty seconds into a power play, slashing right
1:53:37
Speaker 3: next to the crease by foresling on Sweden to give
1:53:40
Speaker 3: Team USA a power play. So first big opportunity here
1:53:44
Speaker 3: with only four minutes gone in the first period. We'll
1:53:47
Speaker 3: keep you abreast of what's going on with Olympic hockey
1:53:51
Speaker 3: from an individual standpoint and seeing guys that we already
1:53:55
Speaker 3: know are really excellent hockey players end up even on
1:53:58
Speaker 3: the Olympic stage, maybe excelling more than we thought. Maclin
1:54:02
Speaker 3: Celebrini has nine points so far in the Olympics. He's
1:54:06
Speaker 3: freaking teenager, and it's just at the very, very highest
1:54:10
Speaker 3: level of the game.
1:54:11
Speaker 4: And we knew this.
1:54:11
Speaker 3: He's The San Jose Sharks are ahead of pace, I
1:54:15
Speaker 3: think in their rebuild, and a large part of that
1:54:19
Speaker 3: is because they got back to back number one picks
1:54:21
Speaker 3: and him being the player that they expected him to
1:54:25
Speaker 3: be has gone a long way to support those efforts.
1:54:28
Speaker 3: But here he is on the international stage showing, you know,
1:54:32
Speaker 3: really no nerves, no jitters, no anything. He belongs on
1:54:37
Speaker 3: any ice sheet there is in the world.
1:54:40
Speaker 8: And two months ago, I think there's a discussion is
1:54:44
Speaker 8: he on the team? Do they include him in the
1:54:50
Speaker 8: Olympic roster?
1:54:51
Speaker 3: Because Ken has got so many guys that you could
1:54:53
Speaker 3: say are deserving, and he's young. He's going to have
1:54:57
Speaker 3: three more cracks at the Olympics at least.
1:54:59
Speaker 8: Yeah, And now all of a sudden, it's it's one
1:55:03
Speaker 8: of those things. How could they live without him? Like literally,
1:55:06
Speaker 8: I don't think they would have won the game today. Yeah,
1:55:09
Speaker 8: without maclin Celabrini, he picked up a huge assist. And
1:55:15
Speaker 8: if he doesn't, they don't, they don't win. I but
1:55:19
Speaker 8: and I was talking about it last week with a
1:55:23
Speaker 8: friend in the NHL, like, do you do you realize
1:55:26
Speaker 8: two months ago he wasn't even a sure thing and
1:55:29
Speaker 8: was kinda as you said, he'll have he'll have three
1:55:32
Speaker 8: more cracks at it.
1:55:32
Speaker 4: There's there's lots of other guys.
1:55:36
Speaker 3: We've seen some chippiness in Olympic hockey, which it's reduced
1:55:42
Speaker 3: in an Olympic tournament because you know, friendly also more
1:55:47
Speaker 3: heavily penalized if you do get into fights. France has
1:55:52
Speaker 3: a non NHL player who got into the fight with
1:55:55
Speaker 3: Tom Wilson, and he is now out, he's banned, he's
1:55:59
Speaker 3: done obviously adjudicating that portion of the game in the Olympics.
1:56:09
Speaker 3: Do we do it correctly? Is the game misconduct the
1:56:12
Speaker 3: right level of enforcement on anti fighting on this international
1:56:16
Speaker 3: stage because it's it's a big part of NHL hockey,
1:56:20
Speaker 3: not as big as it used to be.
1:56:22
Speaker 4: Where do you stand on it in the international game?
1:56:24
Speaker 4: I'm fine with it, I guess. I don't think the
1:56:26
Speaker 4: NHL is.
1:56:27
Speaker 8: When they were negotiating to be part of this and
1:56:31
Speaker 8: to send their players over there, I don't think it
1:56:34
Speaker 8: was a huge sticking point. I don't think one way
1:56:40
Speaker 8: or another they had a strong feeling about it, because
1:56:43
Speaker 8: you don't see a lot of fights in the NHL
1:56:47
Speaker 8: to the level that we saw decades ago. But boy
1:56:52
Speaker 8: did France take that the wrong way. Well, they were there,
1:56:56
Speaker 8: what ten to two at that point, Yeah, and they
1:56:59
Speaker 8: were only gonna have one more game left in the Olympics,
1:57:02
Speaker 8: So it was it was kind of like Mick cronin
1:57:05
Speaker 8: last night for UCLA A checking his own player.
1:57:10
Speaker 4: I kind of respect it.
1:57:11
Speaker 3: If you're this this cat again, you're you're a non
1:57:14
Speaker 3: NHL or you're you're supposed to be just happy to
1:57:18
Speaker 3: be there, I guess, and you, uh, you decide, you
1:57:22
Speaker 3: know what, if I'm going to get embarrassed at a loss,
1:57:23
Speaker 3: I'm at least going to get some licks in here.
1:57:26
Speaker 8: I mean he went after the toughest guy on Team
1:57:30
Speaker 8: Canada after he laid down a hit on Nathan McKinnon. Right,
1:57:34
Speaker 8: Canada is one of their top players, so so that's
1:57:37
Speaker 8: what started it. And then he slammed Tom Wilson's face
1:57:42
Speaker 8: into the ice, Like, if you're watching that, I don't know.
1:57:48
Speaker 8: I think if you're watching that as a coach in
1:57:51
Speaker 8: a pro league, I mean, ehl, I can tell you
1:57:56
Speaker 8: about the guy's skill level completely, but to be that's
1:58:00
Speaker 8: kind of a guy you're you're thinking, huh, let's go
1:58:02
Speaker 8: get him.
1:58:03
Speaker 3: Keller on the ice now for a Team USA or
1:58:08
Speaker 3: he was I think we just had a line change actually,
1:58:10
Speaker 3: so he's now off.
1:58:11
Speaker 4: But uh ninety one.
1:58:13
Speaker 3: If you're watching at home or you're heading home to
1:58:16
Speaker 3: watch the rest of this game, twelve minutes remain, twelve
1:58:19
Speaker 3: and a half almost remaining in the first period, still
1:58:22
Speaker 3: zero zero. USA was six shots on goal Sweden so
1:58:25
Speaker 3: far with three. If you're looking for Clayton Keller. He's
1:58:29
Speaker 3: ninety one in the Team USA roster. Do you like
1:58:33
Speaker 3: the Do you like the kit?
1:58:36
Speaker 7: I do?
1:58:37
Speaker 4: I think it looks I think it looks good.
1:58:40
Speaker 3: I've enjoyed the tournament, like I like Germany's uniforms. Latvia,
1:58:44
Speaker 3: you don't see enough maroon on flags, you know what
1:58:46
Speaker 3: I mean.
1:58:47
Speaker 8: As I've watched a couple of games here Canada included,
1:58:51
Speaker 8: I've thought to myself, you know, you turn on the
1:58:55
Speaker 8: game and you're like, you want to make sure you
1:58:57
Speaker 8: know who's who? For USA, know who it is the red, white,
1:59:01
Speaker 8: and blue. There's been several games you turn it on,
1:59:03
Speaker 8: one team's red, one team's white. You don't not really
1:59:07
Speaker 8: sure what's who's who? So I like I like that identity.
1:59:11
Speaker 8: I think that that leeds pretty pretty strong for the Americans.
1:59:17
Speaker 3: Adrian Denny our guest here. He's our Utah Mammoth insider,
1:59:20
Speaker 3: our hockey insiders. We're watching live right now, USA versus
1:59:24
Speaker 3: Sweden at the Milano Cortina Olympics. Sidney Crosby, with an injury,
1:59:31
Speaker 3: exited the game today, ruled out.
1:59:33
Speaker 4: He's going to have an MRI.
1:59:35
Speaker 3: Hockey does the thing where they tell you upper body,
1:59:38
Speaker 3: lower body, and not much else. He is no longer
1:59:42
Speaker 3: the engine that drives Canadian hockey, but he's still a
1:59:45
Speaker 3: heck of a player. What kind of an issue is
1:59:48
Speaker 3: this going to be for Canada if he's limited or
1:59:51
Speaker 3: completely unavailable.
1:59:52
Speaker 8: He's just such an emotional leader. I think that's the
1:59:55
Speaker 8: biggest thing, is the captain. But today they were able
1:59:59
Speaker 8: to use that as motivation, like, let's go win this
2:00:03
Speaker 8: for for sid. If you're the Pittsburgh Penguins right now,
2:00:08
Speaker 8: I think you're pretty freaked out about it because they're
2:00:11
Speaker 8: currently second in the Metropolitan.
2:00:14
Speaker 4: Division, in a.
2:00:16
Speaker 8: Decent spot, but only five points above the the playoff line.
2:00:22
Speaker 8: He'd be the second player in this Olympics that that
2:00:26
Speaker 8: got seriously hurt. Kevin Fiala of l A Was was
2:00:30
Speaker 8: the other one. But they're they're fine without Sydney. You'd
2:00:36
Speaker 8: like to have him. You know, it's gonna it's his
2:00:38
Speaker 8: last Olympics. He's you know, he's I root for the
2:00:43
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh Penguins because I like him. I just think he's
2:00:47
Speaker 8: a nice guy. He's been doing it for for two
2:00:50
Speaker 8: decades and he's still got it. We saw him score
2:00:52
Speaker 8: an overtime goal against Utah last year here in Salt Lake,
2:00:56
Speaker 8: so they'll be fine. But it's uh, it's too bad
2:01:02
Speaker 8: because he's he's he's such an ideal captain.
2:01:07
Speaker 3: We've got a PFL event in Pittsburgh at the end
2:01:09
Speaker 3: of March, by the way, so we'll still be in
2:01:12
Speaker 3: Penguins hockey season. I might have to go heckle some
2:01:15
Speaker 3: Penguins if I have the free time on there.
2:01:17
Speaker 4: That'd be that'd be fun.
2:01:18
Speaker 8: That's that's gonna be a good game too when when
2:01:23
Speaker 8: you're there, because they're gonna be in the middle of
2:01:25
Speaker 8: that playoff chase. So that in the NHL, every team
2:01:30
Speaker 8: that's fighting for a playoff spot just gets better in
2:01:33
Speaker 8: March and April. That's why you never gain any ground.
2:01:36
Speaker 8: It's why you never get any help. That's why you
2:01:38
Speaker 8: want to be in the position now because everybody wins
2:01:42
Speaker 8: and you get no help. So look forward to to
2:01:46
Speaker 8: that if you can make it out there.
2:01:49
Speaker 3: From the NHL perspective, we talked about this at the
2:01:52
Speaker 3: beginning of the show today. The fact that you know
2:01:54
Speaker 3: the way these calendars line up, and we've been talking
2:01:56
Speaker 3: sports calendars with you know, the nf playoffs kind of
2:02:01
Speaker 3: interfering with college football, then college football having to figure
2:02:05
Speaker 3: out if they want a month off after the regular
2:02:08
Speaker 3: season's over before they start a college football playoff. Well,
2:02:13
Speaker 3: I feel like, I mean, if this were an NBA problem,
2:02:15
Speaker 3: it would be a massive, massive problem where the league
2:02:18
Speaker 3: would just be like, now we're not pausing our season
2:02:21
Speaker 3: and sending our best players over to play in what
2:02:24
Speaker 3: are ultimately amateur contests, exhibitions in an Olympics where they
2:02:30
Speaker 3: can get hurt. And you know, Sidney Crosby getting hurt
2:02:33
Speaker 3: he is whether you think he's still one of the best,
2:02:36
Speaker 3: you know, top twenty five players in the NHL, he
2:02:38
Speaker 3: is one of the top twenty five stars of the NHL,
2:02:41
Speaker 3: undoubtedly right. So from a league perspective, having a guy
2:02:44
Speaker 3: like that hurt if he misses any kind of serious
2:02:46
Speaker 3: time is disastrous result for the Olympics. But in hockey,
2:02:51
Speaker 3: there's not even a conversation necessarily, not a loud one,
2:02:54
Speaker 3: not an extensive one about hey, is this something we
2:02:57
Speaker 3: all want to do. I mean, when it was put
2:02:59
Speaker 3: forward again, should we bring NHLers back to the Olympics,
2:03:02
Speaker 3: all of them were just like, yes, I want to
2:03:04
Speaker 3: play in the Olympics, and maybe behind closed doors there's
2:03:08
Speaker 3: some guys who are a little bit more hesitant, but
2:03:11
Speaker 3: the calendar thing is really it's it's a fascinating, I think,
2:03:17
Speaker 3: narrative about the difference between hockey players and every other
2:03:20
Speaker 3: professional athlete.
2:03:22
Speaker 8: It's revolutionized the All Star Game in the NHL. The
2:03:26
Speaker 8: Four Nations face off they did last year. This year is,
2:03:30
Speaker 8: you know, kind of the All Star break like the Olympics.
2:03:34
Speaker 8: Without NHL ers playing hockey, it would just it would
2:03:38
Speaker 8: feel off like You've.
2:03:39
Speaker 3: Got to be a super, super hardcore hockey fan to
2:03:42
Speaker 3: care about that, because you're gonna get some college guys
2:03:45
Speaker 3: that will soon be playing for your NHL team. But
2:03:48
Speaker 3: nobody here, certainly not in Utah's watching a lot of
2:03:51
Speaker 3: college hockey.
2:03:52
Speaker 8: I think they would do the schedule differently. I think
2:03:56
Speaker 8: they would start it earlier, which is going to happen
2:04:00
Speaker 8: starting next year when the league adds a couple of games.
2:04:04
Speaker 8: I think everybody realizes the first half of this season,
2:04:07
Speaker 8: and for some teams, the second half after the Olympic break,
2:04:10
Speaker 8: has been a little too crazy in terms of the
2:04:13
Speaker 8: amount of games, the amount of wear and tear, the
2:04:15
Speaker 8: amount of injuries.
2:04:16
Speaker 4: That have happened.
2:04:16
Speaker 8: I think they would adjust that, but I think the
2:04:19
Speaker 8: NHL likes this mid season showcase that they're able to
2:04:26
Speaker 8: have to display hockey in a different way. That's not
2:04:33
Speaker 8: everybody converging on Long Island for an All Star game,
2:04:37
Speaker 8: which is what we were going to have.
2:04:39
Speaker 4: How much fun is that, Sean? Do you guys want
2:04:41
Speaker 4: to carry the game? Yes? Okay, yes, okay, they'll take it.
2:04:47
Speaker 3: Actually, the four Nations thing inspired the NBA to change
2:04:52
Speaker 3: their All Star format too, great success this All Star weekend,
2:04:56
Speaker 3: just this last weekend was NBA All Star Weekend. I
2:04:58
Speaker 3: don't know how much of it you caught, because I
2:05:00
Speaker 3: know you were all the way dialed in on this
2:05:02
Speaker 3: Olympic stuff and hockey stuff, but it it inspired I
2:05:07
Speaker 3: think the NBA, and they did a little copycatting, not direct.
2:05:11
Speaker 4: It worked though. It was great to see.
2:05:14
Speaker 8: And how long have they been looking for something to
2:05:17
Speaker 8: make the NBA start weekend click?
2:05:20
Speaker 4: Yes?
2:05:21
Speaker 6: A while?
2:05:21
Speaker 8: So yeah, uh, NBA taken one from the the NHL.
2:05:28
Speaker 7: I like it.
2:05:29
Speaker 8: What else can we what else can we share with them?
2:05:34
Speaker 3: Still zero zero, just under nine minutes left to play
2:05:37
Speaker 3: in the first period physical game so far between Team
2:05:41
Speaker 3: USA and Sweden. Is there any how many guys on
2:05:45
Speaker 3: Sweden's roster are non NHL ers.
2:05:49
Speaker 4: I would say, let's see eight d so all the
2:05:54
Speaker 4: d I think they all are. They all are, right,
2:05:58
Speaker 4: I think they all are.
2:05:59
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, and all three goalies, yeah, they all are.
2:06:09
Speaker 3: From a Mammoth standpoint, cool to see Clayton Keller obviously
2:06:13
Speaker 3: in this game and in this Olympic tournament. What have
2:06:16
Speaker 3: you heard about the rest of the guys and how
2:06:19
Speaker 3: they're taking advantage of this Olympic brick.
2:06:22
Speaker 8: They got back to practice yesterday. As we talked about
2:06:28
Speaker 8: kind of the training camp that you get to start
2:06:32
Speaker 8: the second half of the season, they're going to be
2:06:34
Speaker 8: practicing over a week before Mammoth get back to work
2:06:38
Speaker 8: a week from tonight against the Colorado Avalanche. But head
2:06:41
Speaker 8: coach Andre Attorney telling us after practice yesterday, you know,
2:06:45
Speaker 8: during the season you get better by watching video, right,
2:06:49
Speaker 8: Yet you've got it. You play so many games or
2:06:51
Speaker 8: just isn't time. You don't have the energy to spend
2:06:54
Speaker 8: an hour and a half working on special teams. You
2:06:57
Speaker 8: work on stuff in you know, income and a periods
2:07:01
Speaker 8: of time that you can, but you don't have an
2:07:04
Speaker 8: hour and a half to spend on special teams like
2:07:06
Speaker 8: the Mammoth did yesterday and in portions working on their
2:07:10
Speaker 8: five on three, working on some neutral zone stuff. So
2:07:16
Speaker 8: they were excited to get back when you when you
2:07:18
Speaker 8: come back, I can't speak for other sports, but in hockey,
2:07:21
Speaker 8: when you get back from like Christmas vacation or the
2:07:23
Speaker 8: All Star break and it's been like three or four
2:07:25
Speaker 8: days and the guys haven't seen their teammates, it's like,
2:07:28
Speaker 8: holy cow, first day of school. Haven't seen half the
2:07:32
Speaker 8: friends in three months, right, So that's always exciting. We
2:07:37
Speaker 8: heard that there was that, but just the opportunity to
2:07:40
Speaker 8: be able to actually work on stuff. We've heard the
2:07:43
Speaker 8: noise on the Mammoth power play, how you'd like it
2:07:46
Speaker 8: to get a little better in terms of percentage penalty
2:07:50
Speaker 8: kill was kind of struggling going down the stretch. So
2:07:53
Speaker 8: to be able to have that training camp. But here's
2:07:55
Speaker 8: the biggest thing Sean for Utah is to have Logan
2:07:58
Speaker 8: Cooley and Alexander Kerfoot skating with the regular group for
2:08:03
Speaker 8: a week before you returned to action with Kooley having
2:08:07
Speaker 8: not played since December fifth and Kerfoot having only played
2:08:10
Speaker 8: nine games. And then you come out of the break
2:08:12
Speaker 8: and it's going to take two three games for teams
2:08:14
Speaker 8: to get back to that mid season level, which is
2:08:17
Speaker 8: another thing that I think will help Logan Cooley when
2:08:21
Speaker 8: the Mammoth get back at it against Colorado a week
2:08:23
Speaker 8: from tonight, and and same thing with Curfoot kind of
2:08:26
Speaker 8: easing him back in. When Sean Dursey came back last
2:08:29
Speaker 8: year after missing forty plus games, he felt like he
2:08:31
Speaker 8: was in preseason and in training camp playing against guys
2:08:35
Speaker 8: in mid season form and never felt like he got
2:08:37
Speaker 8: back at it. So for Kooley missing the twenty eight games,
2:08:43
Speaker 8: this could be something that could really help him and
2:08:45
Speaker 8: help the Mammoth. And eight days of working on that
2:08:49
Speaker 8: power play with.
2:08:50
Speaker 3: That in mind, knowing that you've got a little bit
2:08:52
Speaker 3: of an extended camp for him to get back from
2:08:56
Speaker 3: an actual minutes on ice standpoint, what is rein to
2:09:00
Speaker 3: grading Cooley look like? Will they put him on a
2:09:02
Speaker 3: bit of a minute's restriction a pitch count or are
2:09:05
Speaker 3: they just gonna let him run.
2:09:07
Speaker 8: I haven't heard that that that would be part of
2:09:12
Speaker 8: the plan. I think the hope is, gosh, three weeks
2:09:17
Speaker 8: between games he was skating before in a non contact
2:09:21
Speaker 8: jersey kind of a week here of extended practice time
2:09:25
Speaker 8: and then you go out and you know the teams
2:09:27
Speaker 8: aren't quite where they were when they went into the
2:09:32
Speaker 8: Olympic break. I would say that the hope as you
2:09:35
Speaker 8: you put him out there and he's ready to go,
2:09:39
Speaker 8: eases his way back into it and he's he's he's
2:09:41
Speaker 8: flying with the group.
2:09:45
Speaker 4: Adrian.
2:09:46
Speaker 3: So I was great picking your brain about everything going
2:09:48
Speaker 3: on in the NHL and outside of the NHL right
2:09:52
Speaker 3: now because we've got Olympic hockey, including right now live
2:09:56
Speaker 3: in front of US team USA versus Sweden. Now, I
2:10:00
Speaker 3: assume you've made a plan on how you're going to
2:10:03
Speaker 3: get back to your residence without missing too much of
2:10:06
Speaker 3: this thing.
2:10:07
Speaker 8: I guess we'll see. From the time that I parked
2:10:11
Speaker 8: my car, responded to an email, and took a phone
2:10:15
Speaker 8: call to getting out of my car, I think like
2:10:17
Speaker 8: four inches of snow had fallen in a ten minute stretch.
2:10:20
Speaker 8: So we'll see what we have to get out there,
2:10:23
Speaker 8: and worst case scenario, I'll just come back up here
2:10:25
Speaker 8: and watch it with you.
2:10:26
Speaker 4: Perfect.
2:10:27
Speaker 3: Well, You're always welcome again, Appreciate your time and everyone
2:10:31
Speaker 3: out there, not just age everyone out there. Travel safe,
2:10:34
Speaker 3: take a little extra time, drive slow, remember your utah's
2:10:37
Speaker 3: you know, how to drive in the snow. You've just
2:10:39
Speaker 3: forgotten because we haven't had a real winter yet.
2:10:42
Speaker 4: This is our first big like road snow day. I
2:10:45
Speaker 4: think I will say this.
2:10:47
Speaker 8: On my way down here from holiday, I was pretty impressed.
2:10:52
Speaker 8: Everybody was keeping their distance, driving at a slow speed.
2:10:56
Speaker 8: But as my dad always used to say, it just
2:10:58
Speaker 8: takes one knocking on wood as I head out of here.
2:11:03
Speaker 3: All right, are we about to see a record broken
2:11:07
Speaker 3: in professional sports?
2:11:08
Speaker 4: I'll maybe answer that question next.
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Speaker 7: Another one, bust, another one.
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2:11:41
Speaker 4: All are we talking about this earlier?
2:11:43
Speaker 3: The Seattle Seahawks are for sale. I don't think Ryan
2:11:49
Speaker 3: Smith can bid on the Seahawks. I think that's gonna
2:11:52
Speaker 3: be a more expensive price tag than even he and
2:11:58
Speaker 3: his illustrious accomplishments can probably afford. Plus, he's a Utah guy,
2:12:03
Speaker 3: and you're not gonna be able to bring a franchise
2:12:06
Speaker 3: in NFL franchise to this home state. But my question
2:12:11
Speaker 3: is will the defending Super Bowl champs current recently crowned
2:12:19
Speaker 3: Super Bowl champs Seattle Seahawks. Will they break the professional
2:12:25
Speaker 3: franchise sales price record. A lot of the projections out
2:12:29
Speaker 3: there right now are anywhere from seven to eleven billion dollars.
2:12:33
Speaker 4: Now, throwing a.
2:12:35
Speaker 3: Range out there seven to eleven billion dollars does not
2:12:38
Speaker 3: do justice to just how massive that range is. The
2:12:44
Speaker 3: disparity between seven and eleven billion dollars is four billion dollars.
2:12:50
Speaker 3: That is several pro sports franchises from a couple of
2:12:54
Speaker 3: years ago.
2:12:55
Speaker 4: That is like you could tuck a jazz in there.
2:12:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, well you could talk two jazz is in there
2:13:00
Speaker 5: actually from what Ryan Smith bought the majority stake for.
2:13:04
Speaker 4: But think about it this way.
2:13:06
Speaker 5: The Celtics, the Lakers just sold for ten billion.
2:13:11
Speaker 4: Ten billion.
2:13:11
Speaker 5: That's the That's the highest heights for any American North
2:13:16
Speaker 5: American sports team. The Celtics like a year before, or
2:13:20
Speaker 5: was it just a few months before, were six point
2:13:23
Speaker 5: one billion six point one which was the previous record,
2:13:27
Speaker 5: and maybe Washington Commanders was a little bit higher. But
2:13:32
Speaker 5: the Seahawks, you're talking about, this would be seven The
2:13:37
Speaker 5: low end of that would be the second highest ever
2:13:39
Speaker 5: and the high end of that would be a billion
2:13:41
Speaker 5: dollars more than the highest sale ever for a North
2:13:44
Speaker 5: American sports franchise. So even from that perspective, you're like, Okay,
2:13:49
Speaker 5: this is a ridiculous amount of money no matter how
2:13:51
Speaker 5: you slice it.
2:13:52
Speaker 3: So, but the question for me is like, if this
2:13:55
Speaker 3: were the San Francisco forty nine Ers, the La ram
2:14:00
Speaker 3: if this were the Dallas Cowboys, right, if we were
2:14:05
Speaker 3: talking about even like I think the Jets definitively, I
2:14:12
Speaker 3: would go out and say, this is going to be
2:14:14
Speaker 3: the most expensive franchise ever sold, This is going to
2:14:17
Speaker 3: break the record. It's Seattle, though, and I know they
2:14:23
Speaker 3: just won a championship, and Seattle to me is one
2:14:27
Speaker 3: of the coolest cities in the country.
2:14:29
Speaker 4: It's awesome. Love Seattle.
2:14:32
Speaker 3: It is from a pro sports market standpoint, it is
2:14:36
Speaker 3: a bit of a unique animal, though it's kind of
2:14:38
Speaker 3: out there by itself in the Pacific Northwest. It is
2:14:42
Speaker 3: not necessarily the massive population base. They've done a really
2:14:47
Speaker 3: good job with uniforms, merchandising, and obviously if you're going
2:14:51
Speaker 3: to buy a franchise, you know you might care about that.
2:14:54
Speaker 3: As a revenue stream, I don't think it matters. Although
2:14:57
Speaker 3: it is an odd anecdote right now, I don't think
2:15:01
Speaker 3: it matters that there's no obvious like face of the
2:15:03
Speaker 3: franchise player that you're gonna sell a ton of jerseys
2:15:07
Speaker 3: and things like that. I guess JSN would be that guy.
2:15:12
Speaker 3: But he's a wide receiver. He's not like Sam Donald,
2:15:16
Speaker 3: even though he's a great story right now, Sam Donald
2:15:18
Speaker 3: is not going to be the number one selling jersey
2:15:22
Speaker 3: in the NFL, not even probably for your Seattle franchise,
2:15:25
Speaker 3: because he's still Sam Donald.
2:15:26
Speaker 4: Yeah.
2:15:26
Speaker 5: And like you think about the previous Super Bowl winning team,
2:15:30
Speaker 5: you had face to the franchise guys on defense like
2:15:33
Speaker 5: Richard Sherman, Bobby Wagner, a lot more understated, but as
2:15:37
Speaker 5: a player face to the franchise type guy, this dark
2:15:42
Speaker 5: side Seattle defense, which by the way, incredible nicknames great
2:15:46
Speaker 5: is more of because they're so they're still so young.
2:15:49
Speaker 5: None of these hardly any of those guys, if any, have,
2:15:52
Speaker 5: have reached their prime. Right Uh, there's not really, It's
2:15:57
Speaker 5: not like the first Super Bowl winning team team and
2:16:00
Speaker 5: the one that lost in the Super Bowl. No one's
2:16:02
Speaker 5: buying like a basis of the franchise. I was buying
2:16:05
Speaker 5: an emon worried jersey Yeah, they had DeMarcus Lawrence. I
2:16:08
Speaker 5: guess he's a veteran on there, but he's not even
2:16:11
Speaker 5: he's not.
2:16:11
Speaker 3: The Leonard Williams. You're not buying the Leonard Williams. Er
2:16:14
Speaker 3: is it Devin Witherspoon? Is that the defensive back? I'm
2:16:18
Speaker 3: getting the first name, right, that's right. He he might
2:16:21
Speaker 3: be the best player on the team on the defense.
2:16:25
Speaker 3: Certain it feels like certainly, but he's not that guy
2:16:28
Speaker 3: yet either. Maybe in a couple of years. But also, like, again,
2:16:31
Speaker 3: you're talking about a multi multi billion dollar transaction. You're
2:16:35
Speaker 3: not going to be the prisoner of a moment and
2:16:38
Speaker 3: worry about that excessively. It is just kind of an
2:16:41
Speaker 3: odd happenstance right now that you're Super Bowl champion, Seattle
2:16:47
Speaker 3: Seahawks don't have the obvious like number one jersey seller,
2:16:53
Speaker 3: And that's fine. It's it's a couple hundred thousand dollars
2:16:56
Speaker 3: a year revenue stream, maybe a couple of million dollars
2:16:59
Speaker 3: a year revenue stream in what that's a tiny drop
2:17:03
Speaker 3: in an ocean sized bucket because of what the television
2:17:07
Speaker 3: contract is, because of what the ticket sales are and
2:17:11
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff.
2:17:12
Speaker 4: So locally that's more of like a.
2:17:17
Speaker 5: You maybe you might get hung up on that because
2:17:20
Speaker 5: nationally you don't have those that recognizable face. But locally
2:17:24
Speaker 5: you're still gonna sell the crap out of there of
2:17:26
Speaker 5: those jerseys.
2:17:27
Speaker 3: But like you so like you could go to any
2:17:31
Speaker 3: elementary school in the country right now and find a Patrick.
2:17:35
Speaker 4: Mahomes jersey on some kid.
2:17:37
Speaker 7: You know.
2:17:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you can find a Josh Allen jersey at
2:17:41
Speaker 3: every middle school in the country.
2:17:43
Speaker 5: Here in Utah, you find some Josh Alleners all the time,
2:17:46
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
2:17:48
Speaker 4: You're not seeing that. You're gonna find more like brock.
2:17:50
Speaker 3: Purty jerseys in Connecticut. Then you're gonna find Sam Donold jerseys.
2:17:56
Speaker 3: And again, it's not a reason to buy or not
2:17:58
Speaker 3: buy a franchise. Whoever ends up purchasing this thing is
2:18:04
Speaker 3: going to be focused on the returns. Based on what
2:18:09
Speaker 3: I said before, television contract, ticket sales, revenue share across
2:18:12
Speaker 3: the league in general, in the past and in the president,
2:18:17
Speaker 3: as far as we know, owning an NFL franchise has
2:18:19
Speaker 3: been a licensed to print money, whether you've got a
2:18:22
Speaker 3: great franchise or you have a terrible franchise. And right now,
2:18:26
Speaker 3: the Seattle Seahawks are the Kings of the NFL.
2:18:31
Speaker 4: They just won a Super Bowl.
2:18:33
Speaker 3: They are a well run organization that the Allen family
2:18:37
Speaker 3: has said all right now is up for sale. The
2:18:41
Speaker 3: Lakers sold for ten billion dollars, but that was the
2:18:44
Speaker 3: LA Lakers. That is an international brand that nobody can question.
2:18:50
Speaker 4: Ever.
2:18:51
Speaker 3: I mean, you go find like we talk about, well,
2:18:53
Speaker 3: who's got that jersey in Connecticut, you can find a
2:18:57
Speaker 3: Laker jersey in Hong Kong, especially because they got Lebron
2:19:01
Speaker 3: and Luca on the team. I mean, I'm going to
2:19:04
Speaker 3: Uganda and Tanzania in two weeks.
2:19:07
Speaker 4: Right.
2:19:10
Speaker 3: If I say, do you guys have a favorite NBA team,
2:19:14
Speaker 3: They're gonna tell me it's either the LA Lakers or
2:19:16
Speaker 3: the New York Knicks.
2:19:18
Speaker 4: And they probably don't know who the Utah Jazz are.
2:19:22
Speaker 4: And that's fine.
2:19:23
Speaker 3: And I'll say what about the Seattle Seahawks, and They'll
2:19:25
Speaker 3: be like, never heard of them? So the Lakers are
2:19:30
Speaker 3: in a different stratosphere. But what about the NFL. The
2:19:38
Speaker 3: NFL is America's league. It is the biggest thing going.
2:19:42
Speaker 3: Does the fact that your Super Bowl champion is now
2:19:45
Speaker 3: up for sale mean that we're gonna see a North
2:19:48
Speaker 3: American sports franchise sales record price record, just because it's
2:19:52
Speaker 3: an NFL team and not just a crap NFL team,
2:19:55
Speaker 3: but the Super Bowl champions.
2:19:58
Speaker 4: I don't know if being in Seattle hurts helps them.
2:20:01
Speaker 3: If it were a major, major media market, then I
2:20:05
Speaker 3: think we'd probably be like, Yeah, they're at least gonna
2:20:07
Speaker 3: match that Lakers sales price because it's the NFL. The
2:20:10
Speaker 3: NBA is awesome and is a nice second place, but
2:20:15
Speaker 3: the NFL is king.
2:20:17
Speaker 5: But at the seven even if it's seven billion, which
2:20:20
Speaker 5: they've named is the low end of what they think
2:20:23
Speaker 5: they're gonna get, that's still gonna be. Like I said,
2:20:28
Speaker 5: if the Lakers hadn't just sold for ten billion, that'd
2:20:31
Speaker 5: be the the high the richest transaction, the richest transaction
2:20:37
Speaker 5: as far as buying a sports team than we've ever had. Right,
2:20:40
Speaker 5: So even that tells you the power of the NFL,
2:20:44
Speaker 5: even if it doesn't top the Lakers.
2:20:45
Speaker 3: I'm also very curious, I asked Jeff Schwartz about this.
2:20:48
Speaker 3: I'm also from a business sports business standpoint. I'm really
2:20:52
Speaker 3: really curious to know if Roder Goodell and the other
2:20:55
Speaker 3: owners are courting foreign money and they want a foreign
2:21:00
Speaker 3: owner or if they would rather have.
2:21:04
Speaker 4: Part of the ownership group anyway.
2:21:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, because and foreign sounds like such a harsh, like
2:21:11
Speaker 3: xenophobic word, you know what I mean, Like they are
2:21:14
Speaker 3: trying to make this an international brand. The NFL lags
2:21:19
Speaker 3: behind the NBA in international recognizability. It doesn't translate the
2:21:23
Speaker 3: same way basketball is a much more universal sport. American
2:21:27
Speaker 3: football is exactly that. It's quitt essentially American, and in
2:21:31
Speaker 3: places like Mexico, obviously it's gotten a lot bigger, Western Europe,
2:21:35
Speaker 3: it's gotten a lot bigger.
2:21:36
Speaker 4: It's a big deal.
2:21:37
Speaker 5: In Canada too, But I kind of don't count North
2:21:39
Speaker 5: America as like Canada International, Yeah, and even Mexico, Like you're, yeah,
2:21:46
Speaker 5: you of course, you know what the NFL is.
2:21:48
Speaker 4: It's a it's a few hundred miles.
2:21:51
Speaker 5: It's like ten twelve hour drive at the at the
2:21:53
Speaker 5: longest to to an NFL game, right, So I I
2:21:59
Speaker 5: don't necessary we count North America in that in that
2:22:02
Speaker 5: is like exporting the game, even though it is technically international.
2:22:07
Speaker 5: But nine international games, the most most ever this year,
2:22:11
Speaker 5: first time in this coming year, first time in Paris,
2:22:14
Speaker 5: and I think Rio de Janeiro. So they're doing their
2:22:18
Speaker 5: best to do it. That's a that's a good thought
2:22:21
Speaker 5: by you.
2:22:21
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if they would, if they would
2:22:25
Speaker 3: like to have a European owner, for example, or a
2:22:29
Speaker 3: South American owner. I'm looking up the potential buyers for
2:22:36
Speaker 3: the and it's it's just such a such a sobering
2:22:39
Speaker 3: reality where it's just like, uh, there are there are
2:22:44
Speaker 3: literally like ten people you've ever heard of that can
2:22:46
Speaker 3: afford a sales price like this.
2:22:50
Speaker 4: Everyone's like, it's just gonna be Jeff Bezos.
2:22:56
Speaker 3: You got to have that kind of money, and it's
2:22:57
Speaker 3: not like you have to have it in liquid cash,
2:22:59
Speaker 3: but you got to be able to I mean, these
2:23:01
Speaker 3: are very very complicated processes, so you got to be
2:23:04
Speaker 3: able to push all the way through, and you've got
2:23:06
Speaker 3: to pass the vote from the other NFL owners and
2:23:10
Speaker 3: all that stuff so well, and typically is I think
2:23:15
Speaker 3: majority of our listeners already know this, but typically you're
2:23:18
Speaker 3: talking about a group of people too. It's not one
2:23:21
Speaker 3: person spending seven billion in this case, will probably be
2:23:25
Speaker 3: four or five six people combining their wealth to buy
2:23:28
Speaker 3: this team.
2:23:31
Speaker 5: Zero zero end of the first period. By the way,
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Speaker 5: first intermission stills zero zero ten shots each, I believe
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Speaker 5: is how they ended the first period. So competitive game
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Speaker 5: for a team USA Sweden.
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Speaker 4: Pretty physical game.
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Speaker 3: as much cross stock as we can. I know Spence
2:23:53
Speaker 3: is battling this snow related traffic on his way in.
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Speaker 3: It sounds like, but we'll touch a touch base with
2:24:00
Speaker 3: Spence if we can.
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Speaker 4: And we've got some Breaking Benjamin tickets.
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Speaker 3: you could answer this very easy trivia question. Team USA
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Speaker 3: tied zero zero through twenty minutes.
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Speaker 4: You tell Mammoth.
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Speaker 3: Captain Clayton Keller is a member of the Team USA
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Speaker 3: hockey squad in Milano, Cortina. He does not have his
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Speaker 5: It's really easy, except that we are asking you to
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Speaker 5: answer in Italian.
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Speaker 3: I forgot to say that. You have to text it
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Speaker 3: You can say it in Italian accent. And if you
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Speaker 3: miss to me, James. The drive is coming up next,
2:26:00
Speaker 3: Spence check its I'm sure has some thoughts on all things.
2:26:04
Speaker 3: We were just talking about the potential sale price of
2:26:09
Speaker 3: a Seattle Seahawks and the NFL's place in the pantheon
2:26:18
Speaker 3: of great sports I think is really going to be
2:26:22
Speaker 3: either highlighted or tested or questioned or I don't know
2:26:25
Speaker 3: the right way to put it, but I would say
2:26:29
Speaker 3: that the LA Lakers are among the five most valuable
2:26:33
Speaker 3: sports franchises in the United States, right, Yankees, Cowboys, Lakers,
2:26:41
Speaker 3: these types of these types of franchises, right, you could
2:26:45
Speaker 3: probably put in some of the more recent like that.
2:26:48
Speaker 3: I don't know what the Kansas City Chiefs would be
2:26:50
Speaker 3: worth right now. I know media market matters a lot,
2:26:53
Speaker 3: but the Seahawks are their own little weird animal up
2:27:01
Speaker 3: there in the Pacific Northwest with their unique jerseys, which
2:27:04
Speaker 3: in the case of like Oregon, I think makes them
2:27:06
Speaker 3: more marketable and more interesting and better. But I'm going
2:27:11
Speaker 3: to be keeping a close eye on the sale price
2:27:13
Speaker 3: for these Seattle Seahawks. I do not have enough money
2:27:16
Speaker 3: in the couch cushions to make a bid myself. Unfortunately.
2:27:21
Speaker 3: I would like to be I would like to be
2:27:23
Speaker 3: an owner, an NFL owner. I would not like to
2:27:26
Speaker 3: be Seattle Seahawks owner necessarily, but if it was the
2:27:30
Speaker 3: only one I could afford, or the only one that
2:27:32
Speaker 3: was for sale, I'd probably bite that bullet. So men
2:27:38
Speaker 3: in action right now, Usa Versus Canada gold medal game
2:27:44
Speaker 3: on the women's side of Olympic Hockey tomorrow, and we'll
2:27:49
Speaker 3: be talking about it. It'll be right around this time
2:27:52
Speaker 3: of day.
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Speaker 4: What is it?
2:27:54
Speaker 3: Is it one ten mountain time or is it one
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Speaker 3: ten Eastern time that that puck drops?
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Speaker 4: Checking real quick here.
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Speaker 5: It is, Oh, it's actually eleven ten mountain time, So
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Speaker 5: get you right at the start the show.
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Speaker 4: Eleven ten mountain time, one ten eastern. Okay.
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Speaker 4: Hey, Spence, I'm.
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Speaker 9: Here to break some news. Oh we're no longer good
2:28:47
Speaker 9: at snow. We forgot how to do it. Salt Lake City, Utah.
2:28:51
Speaker 4: It's only it's a temporary thing. It's the first snow
2:28:53
Speaker 4: of the year.
2:28:54
Speaker 9: People are always just like what happened as a result
2:28:56
Speaker 9: of no snow all year? Do we still get May
2:29:00
Speaker 9: I make a plea to our government officials. Okay, let's
2:29:03
Speaker 9: get the plows out on the road. Do we still
2:29:06
Speaker 9: have plows?
2:29:07
Speaker 3: I actually heard that we sold the plows. We sold
2:29:09
Speaker 3: the plows, sold the plows.
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Speaker 9: We probably sold the plows to like Texas because they
2:29:13
Speaker 9: had more snow.
2:29:14
Speaker 3: That we sold the plows to pay for snow machines
2:29:16
Speaker 3: for the for the resorts.
2:29:18
Speaker 9: Well, it would make sense, and all right, so that's
2:29:21
Speaker 9: number one. Number two, Everyone forgets how to drive in
2:29:26
Speaker 9: the snow.
2:29:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then they remember it's you gotta get like
2:29:29
Speaker 3: a little bit of practice.
2:29:31
Speaker 7: I left my house at one twenty.
2:29:33
Speaker 4: It took you forty minutes.
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Speaker 9: It takes me eight minutes to get here, and I
2:29:35
Speaker 9: left early just in case. It took me forty minutes
2:29:38
Speaker 9: to get down first South.
2:29:39
Speaker 3: Okay, I you know, I just got to So my
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Speaker 3: my daughter went on a field trip today, uh hu
2:29:46
Speaker 3: to the planetarium.
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Speaker 4: Nice, very exciting.
2:29:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome, except we just got a message from the
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Speaker 3: school that the bus couldn't get back up the hill,
2:29:55
Speaker 3: so the kids had to get out and walk the
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Speaker 3: rest of the way to the school in a snowstorm.
2:29:59
Speaker 7: Oh my god.
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Speaker 4: And I don't know if.
2:30:01
Speaker 3: You were like this in elementary school, but you know
2:30:03
Speaker 3: how you're never cold?
2:30:04
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you never want to coat. You never want
2:30:06
Speaker 9: to coat with you. My mom used to get so
2:30:08
Speaker 9: mad at me all the time.
2:30:09
Speaker 3: So my six year old daughter was walking through a
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Speaker 3: blizzard with just a T shirt on, and the teacher
2:30:16
Speaker 3: already sent out messages to all the parents just like, hey,
2:30:19
Speaker 3: some of the kids had to change clothes because they
2:30:21
Speaker 3: got so wet, and some of them just are a
2:30:25
Speaker 3: little bit cold. We get hot chocolate back at school
2:30:27
Speaker 3: because it's like dag it. So I guess collectively, as
2:30:32
Speaker 3: a state, we have forgotten how to do snow.
2:30:34
Speaker 9: We are now bad at snow, and we're gonna have
2:30:36
Speaker 9: to get good at snow because we're getting a lot
2:30:38
Speaker 9: more over the next seventy two hours.
2:30:39
Speaker 4: I think this is great.
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Speaker 3: So I guy Kenny Florian, who if you're a big
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Speaker 3: fight fan, you know Kenny Kenny is coming into town
2:30:45
Speaker 3: to do a seminar at our gym this weekend. Nice
2:30:48
Speaker 3: and he lives in Charlotte, North Carolina right now. And
2:30:51
Speaker 3: he moved from LA to Charlotte, North Carolina. He's from
2:30:54
Speaker 3: Boston originally, but we've been talking in anticipation of him
2:30:58
Speaker 3: showing up, and I'm just like, yeah, man, no snow
2:31:00
Speaker 3: this year, so you just like, I guess, you know,
2:31:03
Speaker 3: bring some running shoes.
2:31:05
Speaker 9: Yeah, like that lion sp Plenty of snow now. And
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Speaker 9: I guess the good news is the mountains are given
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Speaker 9: what they need and we'll get we'll actually have water
2:31:15
Speaker 9: because we do need water. We'll have water this summer.
2:31:18
Speaker 9: Right see there it is right, old dads, Old dads,
2:31:21
Speaker 9: this is how you water. You have to react to
2:31:23
Speaker 9: snow this way. You can't when you become forty plus
2:31:27
Speaker 9: or you have a child, you automatically anytime there's precipitation.
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Speaker 4: Well, we need the water. We do need the water.
2:31:34
Speaker 3: Spence, I completely agree Jamie until until he had a child.
2:31:40
Speaker 9: And I've learned a lot about our alfalfa farming system
2:31:44
Speaker 9: from the governor. Well he's certainly one to blame. You
2:31:47
Speaker 9: realize that's where a lot of our water goes. Yes, okay,
2:31:51
Speaker 9: did you know they and they send it to like
2:31:53
Speaker 9: the Saudis for their horses.
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Speaker 4: I don't think that's true.
2:31:56
Speaker 7: It is true.
2:31:56
Speaker 4: We need oil.
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Speaker 9: First of all, you can calm down calling me out
2:32:00
Speaker 9: for a conspiracy theory for once, buddy.
2:32:03
Speaker 4: I'm not calling you out. I'm just telling you it's
2:32:04
Speaker 4: that true.
2:32:05
Speaker 9: No, just then you can call down if you want
2:32:07
Speaker 9: to go to the conspiracy theories. Wait wait, I'm told
2:32:12
Speaker 9: sources alfalfa is sent over to the Middle East for
2:32:15
Speaker 9: their horses. No, the alfalfa is Why would we send water?
2:32:20
Speaker 9: And how does one even do that?
2:32:21
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what you're talking about.
2:32:24
Speaker 7: No, we actually send the alfalfa.
2:32:27
Speaker 3: Now, why is it harder to send water than alfalfa?
2:32:30
Speaker 4: Besides that it weighs more.
2:32:32
Speaker 9: When did water become an import or an export?
2:32:38
Speaker 4: There's a lot of places that import and export water. Seriously. Yeah, okay,
2:32:41
Speaker 4: well I have work to do that because.
2:32:42
Speaker 3: I was are you aware of Saint George? Do you
2:32:45
Speaker 3: know about Las Vegas?
2:32:46
Speaker 9: I'm aware that they exist. That's by Cottonwood Heights, right, Yeah, okay, No,
2:32:52
Speaker 9: but here's my assertion. If we are sending them alfalfa,
2:32:55
Speaker 9: can they pay for our water if we need to.
2:32:57
Speaker 7: You know, make sure that we have enough.
2:32:59
Speaker 4: I thought water wasn't import I'm asking questions.
2:33:01
Speaker 7: I don't have solutions.
2:33:03
Speaker 4: Okay, let me ask you this before I before I
2:33:06
Speaker 4: get out of here.
2:33:06
Speaker 7: What do you got?
2:33:08
Speaker 3: Will the Seattle Seahawks sell for more than the Boston
2:33:12
Speaker 3: Celtics and or the LA.
2:33:15
Speaker 7: Lakers for sure?
2:33:17
Speaker 4: Interesting? Yeah, definitely because it's the Sea, it's not the Lakers.
2:33:21
Speaker 3: The Lakers are an international brand, ten billion dollars.
2:33:26
Speaker 4: You think they're going to sell for more.
2:33:27
Speaker 9: I think any NFL team would probably sell for more.
2:33:30
Speaker 10: The Carolina Panthers. You're not getting Come on, I don't know, man.
2:33:34
Speaker 10: We were actually having this to day Texans. We were
2:33:36
Speaker 10: having this debate this week because there are more eyeballs
2:33:42
Speaker 10: on like Manchester United or any English soccer team than
2:33:48
Speaker 10: any NFL team, like by far. Yeah, the valuation, the
2:33:52
Speaker 10: valuations valuations for NFL teams are sometimes or twice that
2:33:56
Speaker 10: of EPL teams. So I just think the NFL has
2:34:01
Speaker 10: this strangle on American culture. And you know, it's not
2:34:07
Speaker 10: just consumption via television, it's merchandise, it's attending games, the
2:34:14
Speaker 10: business of football. Everybody has always had this thing about Okay,
2:34:18
Speaker 10: well the CT thing, All right, that's gonna that's gonna
2:34:21
Speaker 10: kill football or wow, now it's woke and that's gonna
2:34:24
Speaker 10: kill Nothing gets in the way of this train. So
2:34:28
Speaker 10: maybe your point, you know, the bottom two or three,
2:34:32
Speaker 10: you know, NFL teams as far as valuations, maybe besides them.
2:34:38
Speaker 10: But I would say the majority of NFL teams would
2:34:40
Speaker 10: sell for more.
2:34:41
Speaker 3: I don't I mean, I don't disagree with that it
2:34:42
Speaker 3: And obviously they're coming off a Super Bowl win, which
2:34:44
Speaker 3: has to be factor right there, right, But it is like,
2:34:47
Speaker 3: it's fascinating to me because the Lakers, I mean, that
2:34:50
Speaker 3: is a cultural brand that is beyond sport. Yeah, that
2:34:54
Speaker 3: is bigger than the NBA, and the NFL might be
2:34:57
Speaker 3: bigger than that. Yeah, And we're gonna find out this
2:35:00
Speaker 3: sale price well, and by the way, I just looked
2:35:01
Speaker 3: it up. Manchester United. The last, the last acquisition of
2:35:06
Speaker 3: any kind for Manchester United, A minority steak brought to you,
2:35:11
Speaker 3: bought by Sir Jim Ratcliffe.
2:35:13
Speaker 4: I wish I was a knight.
2:35:15
Speaker 3: He bought a minority steak that in the price you
2:35:20
Speaker 3: paid for that minority stake valued the club itself at
2:35:23
Speaker 3: six point three billion, six point.
2:35:24
Speaker 9: Three billion, And I you know, I'm I'm coming I'd
2:35:29
Speaker 9: have to look at numbers.
2:35:29
Speaker 7: I haven't looked at anything. Have you seen a valuation
2:35:32
Speaker 7: for Seattle.
2:35:32
Speaker 4: You're saying seven to eleven?
2:35:33
Speaker 9: Yeah, that makes sense. And I think Seattle is the
2:35:36
Speaker 9: number six media mark in the country, right, I mean
2:35:38
Speaker 9: last check there, last check, they were top ten.
2:35:41
Speaker 7: For sure.
2:35:43
Speaker 9: I would put money on the fact that I think
2:35:45
Speaker 9: Seattle's like six through eight as far as media market
2:35:48
Speaker 9: size goes.
2:35:49
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, speaking of.
2:35:50
Speaker 9: Which, James, it, where's our baclavis?
2:35:52
Speaker 7: Did not chime in?
2:35:53
Speaker 9: You owe us a boclav a shake? You cannot talk
2:35:56
Speaker 9: about you where you're talking? Yeah, exactly, that's unfortunate.
2:35:59
Speaker 3: New York, LA, Chicago, Philly, Dallas, Sam Bay Area, Yeah, Boston, Atlanta,
2:36:05
Speaker 3: d C, Houston, Detroit, Phoenix.
2:36:08
Speaker 9: Seattle is fourteen fourteen, huh not. At one point there
2:36:11
Speaker 9: were top ten. But I also didn't know you Yeah,
2:36:14
Speaker 9: you blew it. I also didn't know you can import
2:36:16
Speaker 9: an extport water. So I learned two things Starry Cross
2:36:19
Speaker 9: top today, Hey, what do not leave your house. Everyone
2:36:22
Speaker 9: stay home. If you do not have to leave your house,
2:36:25
Speaker 9: Do not leave your house today. It is wild out there.
2:36:27
Speaker 9: Just do it on foot. Yes, you could do that.
2:36:30
Speaker 9: Or with a horse. I'd love to see that. A reindeer,
2:36:34
Speaker 9: I'd love to see that. Does does your dog like
2:36:36
Speaker 9: the snow? Yes, Rocky loves the sun, he loves Duke
2:36:39
Speaker 9: loves the snow. Yeah, that was the only fun part
2:36:42
Speaker 9: about shoveling today watching it.
2:36:43
Speaker 3: Rockey actually has only been like he's he has not
2:36:46
Speaker 3: yet been in snow like this, okay, because he's from
2:36:49
Speaker 3: Tay He's born in Texas one year ago and so
2:36:51
Speaker 3: he was here for like one April snow shower.
2:36:55
Speaker 4: Okay, So this is gonna be a fun day for him.
2:36:57
Speaker 7: He's gonna enjoy it.
2:36:58
Speaker 3: Stay tuned for the Drive with Spence Jackets. By the way,
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Speaker 3: Keller wears ninety one for Team USA. That's all for
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Speaker 3: the Sean O'Connell Show. Will do it again tomorrow on
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