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#91 - 3i/Atlas - Part 1 · Phantom Journey's Podcast

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SPEAKER_02: Welcome to this episode of the Phantom Journeys Podcast with your host, Matt McGurk and Ken Smith, where we bring the unexplained to your ear holes.
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SPEAKER_02: Ken.
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SPEAKER_02: Hey, Matt.
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SPEAKER_02: How you doing, buddy?
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SPEAKER_02: Good, good.
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SPEAKER_02: We're back in the studio.
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SPEAKER_02: Back in the studio.
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SPEAKER_02: Hey, how are you?
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SPEAKER_02: So what's been going on this week?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh man, this week, this month, the world has gone nuts.
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SPEAKER_02: But it's September.
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SPEAKER_02: It is September.
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SPEAKER_02: So you can't say this month yet.
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SPEAKER_02: It's only like...
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SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's...
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SPEAKER_02: About a week in.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, last month.
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SPEAKER_02: And then the month before that.
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SPEAKER_02: Unless this month has been really...
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SPEAKER_02: This week has been really, really long.
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SPEAKER_02: It seems like...
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SPEAKER_02: Oh God, it feels like...
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SPEAKER_02: Actually, last week was kind of nice because we had the...
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SPEAKER_02: Labor Day?
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SPEAKER_02: Labor Day, holiday.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So we didn't have to labor.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: That's it.
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SPEAKER_02: Because who likes labor?
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SPEAKER_02: You get paid to not to labor.
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SPEAKER_02: Even my neighbors don't like labor.
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SPEAKER_02: Nice.
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SPEAKER_02: And they don't like saber.
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SPEAKER_02: He's a rhymer.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm an old timer.
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SPEAKER_02: I can either dive or...
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SPEAKER_02: So sit back and relax.
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SPEAKER_02: Because Matt's
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SPEAKER_01: coming
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SPEAKER_02: back.
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SPEAKER_02: Back with the beats.
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SPEAKER_02: Drum.
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SPEAKER_02: With the ghostly feet.
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SPEAKER_02: And the neat beats.
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SPEAKER_02: I think we should move on.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, that's it.
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SPEAKER_02: Back to our MC Phantom days.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Wiki wiki.
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SPEAKER_02: So, you know, yeah, there's, there's, you know, it's just been, there's been so much news and technically we're, we haven't stepped inside of season three just yet.
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SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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SPEAKER_02: We're in the ethereal region between season two and season three.
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SPEAKER_02: So right now, Ken, man, the alien are currently heading towards area 51.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, I don't know why that was also.
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SPEAKER_02: But because of the intensity of the 3i Atlas, I thought it might be a good idea to kind of throw our thoughts on the bandwagon that's spiraling out of control.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, so first of all, I'm not familiar with the 3i Atlas, so why don't you go ahead and explain that?
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SPEAKER_02: I will.
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SPEAKER_02: We will get into it.
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SPEAKER_02: There's a couple of things I want to just touch on before we...
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SPEAKER_02: When we say three I, we're talking like eyeball I or the three I's like the vowel?
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SPEAKER_02: I don't actually know why it's called three-eye.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe it's just a, like, maybe there's a two-eye.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe there's a one-eye.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: It's usually the third eye is your intuition, spiritual center.
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SPEAKER_02: There you go.
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SPEAKER_02: So I just thought maybe that was.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe it is.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe that could be something.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe I thought maybe I was trying to be smart and think ahead.
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SPEAKER_02: Can is smarticles.
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SPEAKER_02: Ooh.
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SPEAKER_02: Like particles.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So.
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UNKNOWN: Oh.
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SPEAKER_02: So what have you been up to?
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SPEAKER_02: I think it's been about two months since we...
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SPEAKER_02: We had a short break in between the season, but then with this...
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SPEAKER_02: It's been quite two months.
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SPEAKER_02: It's been a month and a half.
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SPEAKER_02: Almost.
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SPEAKER_02: Really?
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SPEAKER_02: I think.
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SPEAKER_02: It's been two months since we've been in the studio?
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SPEAKER_02: I think so.
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SPEAKER_02: Because we took...
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SPEAKER_02: We recorded...
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SPEAKER_02: Four weeks.
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SPEAKER_02: Four weeks.
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SPEAKER_02: And then we had like a two-week hiatus.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what?
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SPEAKER_02: It was a week before the air show with Camarillo, which kind of sucked.
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SPEAKER_02: They didn't have any Jeffers.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh.
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SPEAKER_02: They didn't have the Hornets, so it wasn't loud.
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SPEAKER_02: So anyone that remembered the year prior, we were recording and all of a sudden all hell broke loose because all these jet fighters flew over like we were being attacked.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And we had to run outside and look and like, ah! But then we came back and listened to the audio and you couldn't hear them at all.
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SPEAKER_02: Because we left the room.
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SPEAKER_02: Which raised on the other line like, jeez.
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SPEAKER_02: But it was shaking the house.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And yet you couldn't hear it to the mics.
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SPEAKER_02: It was really loud.
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SPEAKER_02: Not an electronic sausage.
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SPEAKER_02: So, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Have you been up to anything?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: You asked me a question.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Ken.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
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SPEAKER_02: What did I do over that time?
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SPEAKER_02: I've just been working.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Same.
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SPEAKER_02: The wife was in New Mexico for three weeks on business, so I got to play Bachelor for a while.
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SPEAKER_02: That was kind of cool.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Send me a picture of horse diamond on an Indian cafe.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: My wife got to go have lunch in Roswell, New Mexico.
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SPEAKER_02: She has cousins in Carlsbad, which is not far from Roswell.
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SPEAKER_02: Are they Indians?
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SPEAKER_02: They met up in Roswell and had lunch and stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: And I guess it was getting close to the Roswell anniversary yearly celebration.
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SPEAKER_02: And I asked for a T-shirt.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I got?
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SPEAKER_02: What?
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SPEAKER_02: Zero.
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SPEAKER_02: What?
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SPEAKER_02: Nothing.
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SPEAKER_02: Nothing.
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SPEAKER_02: Even if I hadn't asked, you'd think that she would know that I would want an alien t-shirt.
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SPEAKER_02: Why would you want an alien t-shirt?
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SPEAKER_02: It's not as if you have like a...
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SPEAKER_02: Oh.
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SPEAKER_02: It's not as if you have an alien soda company or anything.
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SPEAKER_02: But...
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SPEAKER_02: No, that's about all I've been up to.
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SPEAKER_02: What about you?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, me, honestly, not a whole lot.
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SPEAKER_02: Just writing and looking at the...
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SPEAKER_02: Waiting and rhyming and writing and writing.
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SPEAKER_02: Waiting and whapping.
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SPEAKER_02: And working.
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SPEAKER_02: Waiting, whapping and working.
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SPEAKER_02: Incredible.
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SPEAKER_02: Incredible.
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SPEAKER_02: Inconceivable.
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SPEAKER_02: It's been a real...
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SPEAKER_02: I have a bad memory.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Mow it.
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SPEAKER_02: Mow it.
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SPEAKER_02: But...
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, so...
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SPEAKER_02: There's been a lot of news in the past month or two that's just nuts.
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SPEAKER_02: And...
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SPEAKER_02: About nuts?
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SPEAKER_02: Not about nuts.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just nuts.
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SPEAKER_02: Just nuts.
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SPEAKER_02: nuts for instance alright what would you do if you seen a social media post about the LA zoo asking to donate pets to the zoo I don't I didn't see that a zoo in Denmark has asked people to donate excess pets to the zoo but not for like you know they're gonna feed them the tigers And they're not talking about dogs and cats either.
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SPEAKER_02: They're talking about sheep or bulls.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, they should say livestock instead of cats.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_02: But I think they're looking for more attention.
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SPEAKER_02: What?
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SPEAKER_02: They're looking for what?
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SPEAKER_02: And people look it up.
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SPEAKER_02: But still, though, I mean...
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, my God.
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SPEAKER_02: The thought of collecting dogs to feed them.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, I know.
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SPEAKER_02: That's horrific.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe it's worth it once they deal with that.
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SPEAKER_02: But yeah, no, it's just that kind of thing.
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SPEAKER_02: I thought maybe I'd write a little kind of like a story piece on that.
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SPEAKER_02: But honestly, it's just...
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SPEAKER_02: How do you have a spare livestock, though?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like an excess.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's just like you either meant to have it or it just showed up.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe you have like an excess, a couple of cows lying around.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, so let's say you have a herd.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
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SPEAKER_02: What makes it an excess?
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SPEAKER_02: How many more?
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SPEAKER_02: More than a herd.
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SPEAKER_02: Two herds.
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SPEAKER_02: How many more than a herd?
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SPEAKER_02: How many cows in a herd?
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SPEAKER_02: I would say at least five.
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SPEAKER_02: Five, I'd say.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay, maybe five or ten.
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SPEAKER_02: The same thing, less
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SPEAKER_01: than
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SPEAKER_02: five is a couple of cows.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Or several cows.
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SPEAKER_02: Several.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe five is several.
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SPEAKER_02: Seven.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going to say seven is a herd.
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SPEAKER_02: Seven.
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SPEAKER_02: That's a good number.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
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SPEAKER_02: Have you heard?
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SPEAKER_02: So, if I have 10, then I have an access account?
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
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SPEAKER_02: But a herd should be like seven to what?
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SPEAKER_02: I'd say like 10 or 20.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe not 20.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe 20 is a lot.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: They used to have these really big cows.
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SPEAKER_02: That's what I was thinking.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe that's a lot of herds.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just...
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just wondering.
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SPEAKER_02: That's just what I heard.
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SPEAKER_02: I was just wondering how you come to the conclusion that you have an excess of livestock.
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SPEAKER_02: I know, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe if you have like a couple of horned, I'm like, you know what?
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SPEAKER_02: I can deal with getting rid of a couple.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Throw a couple of lamb in there for kicks.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe if you had a goat that was just ornery and always got into stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: And every time you turn around, it'd like bite you in the ass or something.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: I'd be threatening it, but I don't know if I could feed it to it.
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SPEAKER_02: tiger for like people who who slaughter uh animals for food which it's a normal process i don't love it but i still eat meat so i'll be a hypocrite not to say otherwise but like for those kind of people that do stuff like that maybe it's not a big deal maybe it's a guy you hear have a have an extra couple cows just like this i don't know i just it's in the u.s i bet you they get a tax write-off yeah for the value of the livestock it was interesting because i was wondering like if they're really desperate for things like this like for example then why have the tiger well yeah I know well I don't know a lot of animals in the zoo they can't buy animals that's a problem so because if they buy animals then they're buying other animals what if they had an extra wildebeest and they'd have their problems solved they just need them to mate have a mating program for the wildebeest and the water buffalo so they can grow their own livestock What did Dutch tigers eat before they needed food?
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SPEAKER_02: I think they had food.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just that they can't buy anymore.
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SPEAKER_02: Do Dutch tigers eat different stuff than, let's say, tigers in India or whatever?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm sure they eat the same thing.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Do Dutch tigers roar in some weird accent like the Dutch talk?
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: I was trying to set you up for...
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SPEAKER_02: I know, but I couldn't.
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SPEAKER_02: It popped in my head.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But I was thinking, like, for the likes of, like, North Dakota with all the squirrels, you could ship over, like, a couple of hundred thousand squirrels.
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SPEAKER_02: And nobody would ever notice.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: Or boars.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe the squirrel bones get stuck in their teeth.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, like, boars in, like...
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SPEAKER_02: Midwest that's a problem isn't it like Louisiana and stuff like that oh in the south why can't they just like get those because they're mean as heck oh mean oh yeah well they they knew they um the one thing I will say is they said they would anesthetize fuck anesthetize yeah for some reason that word is in my head so they do that and then they feed it to them so it's not as if they go here they don't make the tiger work for it huh you look cheap Run! If you can run to that hole in the wall over there, we'll spare you.
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SPEAKER_02: Or, you know, prisoners.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, some really bad prisoners, and there you go.
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SPEAKER_02: The tiger doesn't want to be fed.
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SPEAKER_02: He wants to hunt.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: Like a T-Rex.
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SPEAKER_02: We got one outside.
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SPEAKER_02: I just ran past.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_02: we got one outside.
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SPEAKER_02: So, there was one other strange bit of news that I had heard.
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SPEAKER_02: If that last story wasn't strange, we made it strange.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, this next piece of news might shock you.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, it might shock you.
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SPEAKER_02: The idea of it, I understand the why, but the doing is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'm afraid to hear now.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going to start off by saying like, do you have an American flag outside your house?
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SPEAKER_02: Inside my house?
12:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure I've got something with an American flag on it.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't think I own an actual American flag.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't understand.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, I have one around somewhere.
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SPEAKER_02: I have an Irish flag right there.
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SPEAKER_02: Are you saying you're more patriotic, more American than I am?
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SPEAKER_02: No, absolutely not.
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SPEAKER_02: Absolutely not.
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SPEAKER_02: Not right now, especially.
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SPEAKER_02: But in Ireland.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Right?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, I think.
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SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: The Dublin City Council.
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SPEAKER_02: My wife was telling me about this.
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SPEAKER_02: You guys were talking about this.
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SPEAKER_02: Has asked people to take down.
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SPEAKER_02: They work
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SPEAKER_01: together.
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SPEAKER_02: That's all I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: They've asked people to take down their Irish flags.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, so what's the reason behind it?
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SPEAKER_02: Here's the thing.
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SPEAKER_02: I've had the reason, but the idea is taking them down from public areas, not your houses.
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SPEAKER_02: It's always houses, but I think it's...
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SPEAKER_02: So they can't fly the Irish flag, let's say, at City Hall.
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SPEAKER_02: If City Hall puts it up, maybe, but people are putting Irish flags up everywhere.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And non-Irish residents are finding it racist.
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SPEAKER_02: Well...
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SPEAKER_02: So do you know what?
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SPEAKER_02: Well, but you were living in a country that has that flag.
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SPEAKER_02: So there is a small reasoning for it, but I'm not saying the reason is acceptable.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So the reason for it is because anti-immigration are supposedly using it as a weapon to say oil and only, like no immigrants allowed.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Right now.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: kind of like what's going on in parts of the US yeah kind of right so people are putting Irish flags up on streets on poles on like in like public parks which to me is okay I'm like fucking do it but they're asking people not to do it and to take them down and the new Irish commissioner whatever the fuck Garda yeah he's kind of sounds like he's on board with it it sounds like they're trying to detour were being looked at as a nationalist country, where you're nationalist being more of an authoritarian fascist state.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, the interesting thing is, have you ever heard of NECAP?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I got two of them.
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SPEAKER_02: But there's an Irish kind of rap band-ish, and they rap or sing in Irish.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: That sounds like their tongues would get tied to me.
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SPEAKER_02: They're actually not too bad.
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SPEAKER_02: How does your mouth function like that?
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SPEAKER_02: It's very, it's going to like, I don't know if it would be leftist or rightist, but it's going to like very Irish only.
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SPEAKER_02: Not Irish only, but like they're singing about the troubles of Ireland.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And they're also supporting Palestine.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Because of the same struggles that we went through, that they're going through with the genocide.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: So like it's kind of on par with that and it's been integrated everywhere and everyone has Irish flags up but we also have to remind everybody that Ireland has a history of conflict with the British government over the same kind of so I can see where it's a touchy subject but then there's also a recent history behind it as well and like there's a lot of things like Ireland honestly is definitely one of those countries that will be to force a staple for another country.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: Except World War II.
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SPEAKER_02: They were neutral.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying they were neutral.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, there was a reason why we were neutral.
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SPEAKER_02: Fucking England.
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SPEAKER_02: Whatever.
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SPEAKER_02: No, we were neutral because we were trying to regrow our country.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Politics, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Anyways, so we had only come out over fucking Civil War anyway, so the mad thing about the Irish flag is it was gifted to Ireland in I think it was like 18...
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SPEAKER_02: 50 or 18, 48, something like
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SPEAKER_01: that.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: From France.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
17:09
SPEAKER_02: And it was first used in like 1916 or 19, I think it was 1916.
17:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure if it was used before that, so don't quote me on that.
17:19
SPEAKER_02: I'm not like a historian on Irish history.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: But first used in 1916, used again in the war for independence and eventually became our national flag.
17:33
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
17:33
SPEAKER_02: But The meaning behind it basically is the green is the Roman Catholics.
17:39
SPEAKER_02: The orange is the president.
17:41
SPEAKER_02: The white is the peace between the two.
17:44
SPEAKER_02: The flag itself isn't racist.
17:47
SPEAKER_02: It's a very symbolic of the history of Ireland.
17:50
SPEAKER_02: It's like everything that the green hate is on the other side and vice versa, but in the middle there's a peace.
17:59
SPEAKER_02: It's more than just that for Irish people.
18:02
SPEAKER_02: Now, I don't really fly it because of the whole religious aspect but I have it up because I'm Irish and it's like there's so much more to history than 1916 even before that anyway but it wasn't always the national flag
18:17
SPEAKER_01: okay
18:18
SPEAKER_02: Ireland has had many flags throughout the years right and one of them you may have seen it was kind of a green one with a harp yeah I've seen a blue with a harp that's actually the older one okay older one now another one they tried to integrate was the St.
18:36
SPEAKER_02: Patrick's flag, which is a red X.
18:40
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
18:40
SPEAKER_02: Right?
18:41
SPEAKER_02: Now, one thing I will say is if you ask Irish people to not put up an Irish flag, they're going to put up Irish flags in bulk to spite you.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: Right.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: Right?
18:54
SPEAKER_02: So, the St.
18:56
SPEAKER_02: Patrick cross...
18:58
SPEAKER_02: No, not cross.
18:59
SPEAKER_02: X was meant to go on the Union Jack.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: To make, like, the United Kingdom part...
19:07
SPEAKER_02: Ireland the part of the United Kingdom, right?
19:09
SPEAKER_02: Right, right, right.
19:10
SPEAKER_02: But if you look at the Union Jack, there's an offset white X.
19:15
SPEAKER_02: Oh, from the...
19:16
SPEAKER_02: Offset from the red one.
19:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
19:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
19:17
SPEAKER_02: So, I think it's top right and the bottom left.
19:21
SPEAKER_02: It kind of looks like there should be another X in there.
19:24
SPEAKER_02: Right.
19:25
SPEAKER_02: That was supposed to be Ireland.
19:26
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
19:27
SPEAKER_02: But to despite them...
19:29
SPEAKER_02: We have a new flag.
19:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, a new flag.
19:32
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we had the, I'm pretty sure it was the harp, the green harp with the kind of female harp.
19:39
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, long story short.
19:41
SPEAKER_02: So when the flag, when the Irish flag is flying, the closest color to the flagpole is green, right?
19:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
19:48
SPEAKER_02: So how do we know that your guys aren't really flying the flag of the Ivory Coast?
19:54
SPEAKER_02: Why?
19:55
SPEAKER_02: Because it's the same color scheme except theirs is orange to the flagpole.
19:58
SPEAKER_02: Well, the Does it be...
20:02
SPEAKER_02: orange the flag then I'm just I'm just teasing now just well because it's funny actually the Irish coast flag is just a reverse of the Irish flag that's why I brought it up it's actually I never thought of that myself but I wonder what you know how I know that how do you know that because if you go to aliens company.com there's about 200 flag shirts that I've designed very cool and you should check that out yeah you should check it out it's one of my best sellers not the Irish flag one I told a few of those my flag shirts yeah no sellers don't quote me on like all the stuff i said like yes most of it is true but i don't really go well he said that and it was wrong if i'm wrong i'm sorry but i know for a fact that if you ask where's people take down the flag they tell you to go and show you i'm pulling up no i believe it so if it turns out that they knock on doors and ask people to take that flag down so my but the my problem is is that knowing me if i was in ireland and and the guard knocked on my door and went take your flag down but tell him to go and show you and I'd probably you'd probably go well you're either going to get arrested or get fined and then I would say to him go and show you right now there's a reason why I'm saying go and show you because it's gas GAS okay right and that's already it's an Irish thing it's like oh that's gas but the thing is again is you don't pay the fine you go to jail and then you go to jail and you go to jail then it causes a fucking flying flag yeah I know it causes that's what I'm doing for I was thinking so my question is does Ireland have like like we have the First Amendment the freedom of I would it's been a really long time since I I mean do they have some kind of legal protections which you're allowed to kind of yeah freedom of speech or something like that it's definitely yeah I think there's a legal binding to Ireland with the flag where you can't I have to look into it.
22:04
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to say this is for sure because it's been a really long time since I looked at that, but I know that the tricolor is a legal bound thing to being Irish kind of thing.
22:16
SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
22:17
SPEAKER_02: Right, so let's just move.
22:19
SPEAKER_02: Do you have questions?
22:20
SPEAKER_02: One more question.
22:22
SPEAKER_02: So the immigrants in Ireland, are they primarily from a certain region or are we looking at a hodgepodge of people from all over the place?
22:29
SPEAKER_02: Mostly hodgepodge, fair, but there is a certain group that's mostly having issues with the flag.
22:38
SPEAKER_02: We won't say who.
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23:24
SPEAKER_02: So, Ken.
23:25
SPEAKER_02: Yes, Matt, Ken.
23:27
SPEAKER_02: I was really hoping to have Season 3 in this spot, as I had mentioned.
23:31
SPEAKER_02: But everywhere you look these days, somebody is talking about 3.0 Atlas.
23:35
SPEAKER_02: So, I wanted to throw this one up as kind of an episode before we start Season 3.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: Oh, cool.
23:43
SPEAKER_02: I've also been touching base with Crystal, and the next time we record, we'll get together and have fun with serious episode on the power of safety series part three the safety in the spiritual realm brought to you by phantom journeys podcast absolutely i also want to give a shout out to paranormal 24 7 that's some of the coolest people most down-to-earth people i've met who we met at our saint patrick's day special in anaheim
24:14
SPEAKER_01: oh yeah
24:14
SPEAKER_02: who came all the way from palm springs just to meet us so much love long drive through the or just come listen to us talk about leprechauns exactly so yeah thank you absolutely and they did invite us out to Palm Springs for October Spookfest which I actually have to ask you to put them up on the website for them but we will so one day we will get out to see them because you know they're really cool people Ken yes we briefly spoke about this a few episodes ago I believe you called it a seven-mile-long poo.
24:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:55
SPEAKER_02: Maybe I shouldn't have.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: Nope.
24:59
SPEAKER_02: broadcast your ship that looks like a seven mile long...
25:05
SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe a poo is something different in their language.
25:08
SPEAKER_02: Well done, Matt.
25:09
SPEAKER_02: Now we know who to blame when the aliens invade.
25:12
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
25:13
SPEAKER_02: So, 3i Atlas is what it's called.
25:16
SPEAKER_02: It has become a bit of a one-hit wonder.
25:19
SPEAKER_02: Let's hope it's not a one-hit and that's the end of it.
25:22
SPEAKER_02: Many questions.
25:23
SPEAKER_02: So, the spaceship is 3i Atlas?
25:26
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
25:27
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I see.
25:28
SPEAKER_02: I did not know that.
25:28
SPEAKER_02: Alright.
25:29
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the asteroid is 3I Atlas.
25:33
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
25:33
SPEAKER_02: We don't actually know what the spaceship is.
25:34
SPEAKER_02: When you said 3I Atlas, I was thinking it was like a New Age thought belief or something.
25:43
SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
25:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:45
SPEAKER_02: See, I didn't know what his actual name was.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: I just knew it as a seven-mile-long poo.
25:51
SPEAKER_02: He said it too, aliens.
25:54
SPEAKER_02: So many questions.
25:55
SPEAKER_02: Just what is this thing?
25:56
SPEAKER_02: Simply a passing rock?
25:58
SPEAKER_02: An alien spaceship?
25:59
SPEAKER_02: Or maybe, just maybe, the Herald of the Fifth World.
26:03
SPEAKER_02: Ooh.
26:05
SPEAKER_02: Have I been to the Fourth World?
26:06
SPEAKER_02: You're in it.
26:07
SPEAKER_02: Oh, cool.
26:08
SPEAKER_02: Have I been to the First World then?
26:10
SPEAKER_02: No.
26:11
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
26:11
SPEAKER_02: No, humans didn't exist in the Fourth World, but we'll get to that.
26:15
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
26:15
SPEAKER_02: Which is interesting because...
26:16
SPEAKER_02: Anyway.
26:19
SPEAKER_02: So, there's been a ton of people giving their two cents on this.
26:22
SPEAKER_02: And originally...
26:23
SPEAKER_02: I gave five cents.
26:25
SPEAKER_02: You did?
26:25
SPEAKER_02: I did.
26:25
SPEAKER_02: We were talking about the seven mile long pool and I feel like putting five cents on that one.
26:30
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
26:31
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
26:33
SPEAKER_02: Originally, when I had wrote this, there was one Harvard scientist that is now everywhere you look, which is Professor A.V.
26:43
SPEAKER_02: Loeb.
26:43
SPEAKER_02: Loeb.
26:45
SPEAKER_02: Personally, I don't know much about him, but just from the videos I had seen randomly through Facebook, YouTube, frigging TikTok, all that stuff, he suggests that it might have nuclear energy capabilities suggesting the possibility of non-human design.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: Come on, just say it.
27:05
SPEAKER_02: Just say it.
27:06
SPEAKER_02: It's an alien spaceship.
27:08
SPEAKER_02: Come on.
27:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's an alien spaceship.
27:10
SPEAKER_02: So, this object emits its own light source.
27:15
SPEAKER_02: Mostly, if not all objects in space reflect light from nearby stars.
27:21
SPEAKER_02: However, this one seems to be in need of headlights.
27:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't actually know why any ship would need headlights.
27:29
SPEAKER_02: stuff if a ship is traveling at the speed of light and then turns on its headlights then what happens I have always been curious about that I would think that it's like you always stay ahead of it let's say you're in a train going 50 miles an hour you jump up you're still traveling at that same spot yes because your momentum is moving I think it's the same thing with the headlights I think it would project out a little bit further because now the source is traveling at the speed of light but then also something's projecting out at speed light.
28:00
SPEAKER_02: So therefore...
28:01
SPEAKER_02: But if you're moving on a train, let's say...
28:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how fast a bullet goes.
28:07
SPEAKER_02: It's on my head.
28:09
SPEAKER_02: How fast a bullet goes?
28:10
SPEAKER_02: A bullet.
28:11
SPEAKER_02: Oh, fast.
28:12
SPEAKER_02: Fast.
28:13
SPEAKER_02: So if you are on a train that's moving that fast, right?
28:17
SPEAKER_02: As fast as a bullet.
28:18
SPEAKER_02: As fast as a bullet.
28:19
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
28:19
SPEAKER_02: And let's speed...
28:21
SPEAKER_02: That's why it's called a bullet train.
28:24
SPEAKER_02: Let's say a little bit slower than a bullet, right?
28:26
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
28:27
SPEAKER_02: And you fire a bullet The bullet's going to move at a slow speed.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: You'll probably see the bullet moving away from you.
28:38
SPEAKER_02: I don't think it'd go faster than the train.
28:39
SPEAKER_02: I think it would because the source is traveling at a fixed rate.
28:44
SPEAKER_02: So when you fire something that travels the size of the speed of a bullet, it's going to travel the speed of the bullet from the source.
28:52
SPEAKER_02: If you're moving in a car at 50 miles an hour or a train, let's say you're on top of a train.
28:57
SPEAKER_02: On top of the train?
28:57
SPEAKER_02: On top of the train.
28:58
SPEAKER_02: Okay, good.
28:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
29:01
SPEAKER_02: And you hole up a feather.
29:03
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
29:04
SPEAKER_02: And you troll the feather.
29:06
SPEAKER_02: It's going to go way back there because of wind resistance.
29:09
UNKNOWN: Maybe.
29:10
SPEAKER_02: You have to be inside the train.
29:11
SPEAKER_02: Science with Phantom Journey podcast.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: No, that'd be physics, wouldn't it?
29:14
SPEAKER_02: Never mind.
29:15
SPEAKER_02: Same thing.
29:15
SPEAKER_02: If you're inside the train, then you wouldn't have as much wind resistance.
29:19
SPEAKER_02: That's true.
29:21
SPEAKER_02: But in space, there's no wind.
29:23
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
29:24
SPEAKER_02: That's why they did an experiment when they were on the moon where they dropped a feather and a hammer.
29:28
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
29:28
SPEAKER_02: at the same time.
29:30
SPEAKER_02: I remember that.
29:31
SPEAKER_02: I remember that.
29:32
SPEAKER_02: My frigging professor would kill me if he didn't remember that one.
29:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: Gravity.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: So what were we talking about?
29:39
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the headlights.
29:42
SPEAKER_02: It's like, how did we get to this point?
29:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:44
SPEAKER_02: However, I was thinking though, a spaceship would need sensors.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: So, and that probably rules out headlights.
29:52
SPEAKER_02: However, retro rockets slowing it down for an Earth orbit.
29:56
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
29:57
SPEAKER_02: That's lights in front of the ship I mean yeah fair enough but we're talking about we're talking about advanced alien spacecrafts not Elon Musk's well they gotta slow down somehow press the button and they slow down that's Star Wars that is pretty cool in Star Wars how all of a sudden yeah well yeah that's I think that's the FVL it's still I don't care it is cool it is cool it's even cooler how 50 ships gonna show up and nobody ever parks in the same spot yeah So I do have a bit of a far-fetched theory.
30:33
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
30:33
SPEAKER_02: Not that any of our other theories have been far-fetched.
30:38
SPEAKER_02: But this one's very far and very fetched.
30:39
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
30:40
SPEAKER_02: So we're soon to witness a nova of the T-Corone Borealis, a.k.a.
30:48
SPEAKER_02: the blaze star.
30:49
SPEAKER_02: Really?
30:49
SPEAKER_02: I hadn't heard of those.
30:51
SPEAKER_02: I know the star Betelgeuse.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:54
SPEAKER_02: Is bound to go supernova at any point, and they've seen that one that does, and And they're talking within the next 25 years, I think I heard.
31:01
SPEAKER_02: Well, I think this is supposed to happen in the next couple of months.
31:04
SPEAKER_02: Well, they say up to like...
31:05
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so maybe it's...
31:07
SPEAKER_02: It's soon.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: Maybe one of the...
31:09
SPEAKER_02: Between either Beetlejuice or this one.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: Or they could be the same thing.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: I should know this stuff.
31:14
SPEAKER_02: All I know is that when Beetlejuice goes supernova, they're saying for about six months, six to eight months...
31:22
SPEAKER_02: It'll be like having a nighttime star or a nighttime sun.
31:26
SPEAKER_02: That's interesting.
31:26
SPEAKER_02: It is.
31:27
SPEAKER_02: You know how far away that thing is and it's going to light up.
31:32
SPEAKER_02: It's going to become the third brightest object in the, in the night sky behind the moon and the star series.
31:39
SPEAKER_02: Would it be as bright as Venus or brighter?
31:42
SPEAKER_02: Like it's supposed to be like, like Venus is actually brighter.
31:46
SPEAKER_02: So it might've been Venus is the third or the second, the moon.
31:50
SPEAKER_02: That's pretty bright though.
31:52
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Venus has been has been I probably talked about talked about this before but Venus has been misidentified as enemy fighters coming to oh yeah I got a funny story and I may have shared this on the show I think it's okay I went into Roswell it was about four o'clock in the morning yeah and here I am like I'm gonna go see some aliens I'm gonna go see some aliens and I've been driving all night and I come around this bend and all of a sudden there's this intensely bright light just shining right at me.
32:25
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like,
32:25
SPEAKER_01: what the hell is that?
32:28
SPEAKER_02: I hadn't even got into Roswell and here they are.
32:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they were waiting for you.
32:32
SPEAKER_02: I even flashed a flashlight at it to see if it was an aircraft or something.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: And then later I was like, oh, it's Venus.
32:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm an idiot.
32:39
SPEAKER_02: Now, Venus is bright as hell.
32:41
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think it even filled me sometimes.
32:45
SPEAKER_02: Because my street up the road goes like really slanted.
32:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:51
SPEAKER_02: And it kind of just looks like there's something like frigging the top of the hill like and that was Venus I think it was either Venus or Jupiter or something like that but yeah now the I've been this Corona Borealis I've been and I've been distracting you that's okay that's okay this is a binary star that will soon experience a reoccurring nova event the white dwarf companion pulls material that's red dwarf
33:19
SPEAKER_01: you're
33:19
SPEAKER_02: thinking oh the white dwarf companion pulls material from the red giant next to it that causes a massive increase in brightness which can be seen by the naked eye.
33:32
SPEAKER_02: The last eruption occurred 80 years ago in 1946 and astronomers are anticipating this to be a spectacular event to occur sometime soon and If spotted, it could be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to see a nova.
33:57
SPEAKER_02: That's true, because I don't think I'm going to be here for 80 years.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: That's true.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: We never know.
34:02
SPEAKER_02: The difference between a nova and a supernova is that...
34:06
SPEAKER_02: One super.
34:07
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
34:07
SPEAKER_02: A nova is Latin for new.
34:11
SPEAKER_02: Of course, every 80 years or so, this white dwarf feeds off the red giant until it lets loose a bright flash of light in its new state.
34:24
SPEAKER_02: Nice.
34:25
SPEAKER_02: A supernova, which is pretty much the end of the life cycle of a star.
34:30
SPEAKER_02: That's what's going to happen with Beetlejuice, yeah.
34:35
SPEAKER_02: This would cause...
34:36
SPEAKER_02: I've said it twice.
34:36
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
34:37
SPEAKER_02: I've said that name twice.
34:39
SPEAKER_02: Say it again.
34:43
SPEAKER_02: Say it again.
34:43
SPEAKER_02: We don't have enough to curse.
34:45
SPEAKER_02: Here's John.
34:47
SPEAKER_02: That's the wrong way.
34:49
SPEAKER_02: I love it.
34:51
SPEAKER_02: I knew where you were going.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: The end of life which would be the last breath of a star causing a bright flash throughout the galaxy and then it's no more my theory does it have a soul maybe maybe we don't know actually it probably does okay what's your theory if you wanted to witness something let's say the northern lights that were going to be happening over LA right and it's something that you really wanted to see you might you might stay at home and just look up at the sky but it's not as cool as seeing something up close maybe you drive to a clearer sky or go to Griffith Park Observatory.
35:26
SPEAKER_02: What if Earth was the best view in the galaxy?
35:30
SPEAKER_02: Or the Sol system?
35:32
SPEAKER_02: This isn't just a passing asteroid.
35:35
SPEAKER_02: It's a tourist ship.
35:38
SPEAKER_02: This isn't the only passing asteroid, but there's no one talking about the others.
35:44
SPEAKER_02: There are five others.
35:46
SPEAKER_02: But they won't be near the Earth, so I think they're kind of out of the spotlight.
35:50
SPEAKER_02: But are the five others from outside the our solar system because that's the big thing about this one it's interstellar from outside the solar system I think it's been here before that's an interesting part it's just been so far away it wasn't going to be as close as it will be now if this was a tourist ship of 90 billion aliens all coming to see the once in a lifetime opportunity the earth is their red light district and the after party is worldwide anal probing laughing That's a lot of aliens.
36:23
SPEAKER_02: That's a lot of aliens, yeah.
36:25
SPEAKER_02: There's only about 8 billion people on the planet.
36:28
SPEAKER_02: Oh my God.
36:30
SPEAKER_02: That's going to be a tear.
36:31
SPEAKER_02: You're going to be really sorry.
36:32
SPEAKER_02: They'll be on the tear, yeah.
36:34
SPEAKER_02: But, you know, we'll get to that another time.
36:37
SPEAKER_02: I want to talk about one other thing that involves UAPs.
36:42
SPEAKER_02: By now, you've probably seen the video from Mexico, right?
36:45
SPEAKER_02: From Mexico.
36:46
SPEAKER_01: Which one?
36:47
SPEAKER_02: The kind of Star Destroyer looking thing.
36:51
SPEAKER_02: There's a 10-second clip of probably the most clearest shot of a ship in what looks like it's been hit by lightning or emitting a bright blue light in the clouds.
37:04
SPEAKER_02: Now, I've seen thousands of UAP videos, and for the most part, looking at the video, my brain automatically wants to say, oh, that's not real.
37:14
SPEAKER_02: What happens if we actually record an alien spaceship, and no one believes it because there's so many AI-generated videos and images and stuff like that.
37:23
SPEAKER_02: And not only AI, there's just so many people trying to hoax.
37:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
37:29
SPEAKER_02: I've wondered that too.
37:30
SPEAKER_02: I mean, but I've wondered more about like when they show clips like old, like handheld.
37:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:37
SPEAKER_02: You know.
37:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:38
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's interesting you say that.
37:39
SPEAKER_02: Movies of aliens.
37:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:41
SPEAKER_02: I kind of wonder.
37:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, that looks pretty good.
37:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:45
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, you wonder.
37:47
SPEAKER_02: So most are easy to say, oh, definitely that's AI.
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SPEAKER_02: But the odd thing about this This one, apparently, it has been tested by AI scanners and came back absolutely not AI.
37:58
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's why AI would tell you if it wasn't AI.
38:02
SPEAKER_02: Now, I want to believe this thing is a real deal, but I've got another theory, and I think Ken just kind of touched on it there a second ago.
38:09
SPEAKER_02: This goes back to a previous talk process that may or may not help my idea.
38:13
SPEAKER_02: We had talked about how 80s and 90s TV shows had stuntmen who flew choppers, are low and blind.
38:19
SPEAKER_02: I think you saw that movie, The Fall Guys.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, sweet.
38:22
SPEAKER_02: I might fall from a tall building.
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SPEAKER_02: I might roll over a new car.
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SPEAKER_02: So, you know, they do all that just for like a two second clip.
38:31
SPEAKER_02: But if something was to go wrong, it was potential death compared to throwing in some CGI.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's a lot easier to sit at your computer and make AI.
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SPEAKER_02: But if you know what you're doing, at least.
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SPEAKER_02: But what about making fake miniatures?
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SPEAKER_02: Right?
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SPEAKER_02: It could take a small team of a couple of miniature designers to put a together videos that AI generators would think it was real.
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SPEAKER_02: And then posting stuff like that these days would get millions of hits, reposts, comments, which actually pays money these days.
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SPEAKER_02: If you're using an actual miniature ship, there's a lot of technical things that you'd have to know.
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SPEAKER_02: You can make it look really bad, though.
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SPEAKER_02: Not really bad, but like...
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SPEAKER_02: Or like bad video.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:16
SPEAKER_02: Because I mean, there's been really...
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SPEAKER_02: Because that does...
39:19
SPEAKER_02: When I was in high school, my best friend at the time...
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SPEAKER_02: and I, we made a movie called Project Contact.
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SPEAKER_02: And we used that as a way to hide some of the defects of some of the effects we were trying to do is that, oh, there's interference.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I mean, to get something small to look big is actually kind of difficult because the scale, I can very quickly notice something when the scale is not correct.
39:54
SPEAKER_02: So you need to make sure everything in that image is to scale with each other.
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SPEAKER_02: Or your mind automatically says, oh, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: And you can't mix the two with CGI or AI because then there's so many markers in the video that they can identify that that's been tweaked.
40:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying it can't be done.
40:17
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying that someone that's very industrious and determined couldn't do it yeah but there is some technical stuff there that you'd have to really make sure but you know then again you could do trial and error you're like yeah this doesn't look quite right i need i need and then you learn from you know i was kind of look right i was kind of thinking about that when i was writing this that's what kind of true in like miniature like experts yeah you know what i mean like okay like people who might not have a job and just kind of like well you know i can make money on the internet from like strange videos how much if it goes well how many people out there are have 3D printers I mean you could print something up that hasn't been seen but you know what I find really amazing is that I see people on the internet advertising or not advertising but showing how they 3D printed a 6 foot long Starship Enterprise like oh my god it's one awesome freaking cool two oh my god the work amount of work and money put into that because they are expensive the filament but just to do Let's say...
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SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't have to be miniature miniature.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, it could be large, but it's not like...
41:27
SPEAKER_02: Your ship could be, you know, 12 inches long.
41:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:30
SPEAKER_02: And you can still do something pretty believable.
41:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:35
SPEAKER_02: But you've got to make sure that your lighting is right.
41:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's the thing.
41:39
SPEAKER_02: Your painting is right.
41:40
SPEAKER_02: Your...
41:41
SPEAKER_02: Everything that's around it that you...
41:42
SPEAKER_02: Because you've got to include other...
41:43
SPEAKER_02: You just can't put a blue sky or something behind it.
41:45
SPEAKER_02: You have to do something...
41:46
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, night time is pretty handy, but I guess the lighting thing was...
41:49
SPEAKER_02: But you kind of need to put something with it to give it...
41:51
SPEAKER_02: believability I think yeah I wonder if that's what the lightning strikes that was actually pretty impressive and I'm not saying that it can't be done in Photoshop or video but the fact that the light to me the light was blinking off the back end because they had a lot of white lights in the back end but the reflection off the clouds I thought was pretty cool absolutely Alright, this is a two-parter episode, so we're going to leave it here for now.
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