Latest / Drawn of History / Aziz Ansari _ This Past Weekend w_ Theo Von _617(M4A_128K)
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- 0:43Speaker 1: Theo von store.com. Uh, thank you guys. Today's guest is
- 0:50Speaker 1: a standup comedian. He's an actor and a filmmaker. Um,
- 0:55Speaker 1: he just directed his first film called good fortune, uh,
- 0:59Speaker 1: which we're going to talk about, and I'm looking forward
- 1:02Speaker 1: to getting to meet him, really. We've never even known
- 1:04Speaker 1: each other, so we're going to do that now. Today's
- 1:07Speaker 1: guest is Mr. Aziz Ansari. Follow me, and I will
- 1:15Speaker 1: find a song I will sing. Sweet, man. Might get
- 1:28Speaker 1: a hit of this. What do you drink, man? Do
- 1:32Speaker 1: you have a beverage of choice, kind of?
- 1:34Speaker 2: Just espresso and water.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Really?
- 1:37Speaker 2: I mean, not together, but I drink espresso a lot.
- 1:40Speaker 2: And then water. And then if I'm drinking, like, a
- 1:43Speaker 2: wine or whatever, a martini or whatever.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Ooh, a martini, huh?
- 1:50Speaker 2: Check, check.
- 1:51Speaker 1: You good? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Do Indian people react well
- 1:55Speaker 1: to martinis? Is your family Indian by nature?
- 1:59Speaker 2: Yeah, by nature they are Indian. Okay. Yeah, my family's
- 2:03Speaker 2: from India. I was born in South Carolina.
- 2:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Yeah. Wait, are we going now or no?
- 2:08Speaker 1: Yeah, we can be. Yeah, whatever.
- 2:09Speaker 2: Okay, wait. So where are you from? You're from Louisiana.
- 2:13Speaker 1: I'm from Louisiana, yeah. Okay. Okay.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Because, you know, whenever I hear someone else with a
- 2:18Speaker 2: southern accent, it's almost like when I see someone that's Indian.
- 2:21Speaker 2: I'm a little like, oh, I need to. But we've
- 2:25Speaker 2: never really met, I don't think, properly. You were at
- 2:29Speaker 2: Chris Rock's birthday party. I saw you there, but, you know,
- 2:32Speaker 2: that was a crazy thing. I didn't really get to
- 2:34Speaker 2: say hi. But do you have that when you hear
- 2:37Speaker 2: someone with a southern accent? Because to me, there's so
- 2:39Speaker 2: few people. I don't have one, but I'm from South Carolina.
- 2:43Speaker 2: I lost my accent. It comes out when I start
- 2:46Speaker 2: talking to other people that have it. Even the guy
- 2:48Speaker 2: that picked me up at the airport, he was from Atlanta,
- 2:51Speaker 2: and I started, and I'm like, it started seeping in.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:55Speaker 2: But yours has stayed strong. Mine is gone, but I
- 3:00Speaker 2: remember when I met Danny McBride, because there's so few
- 3:03Speaker 2: people that have Southern accents that are in our kind
- 3:06Speaker 2: of acting Hollywood comedian role.
- 3:08Speaker 1: That's kind of true, huh?
- 3:09Speaker 2: Strange.
- 3:10Speaker 1: I think right before our generation, it was more prevalent.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Before, well, there was the whole, like, Blue Collar.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Right, those guys.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Those guys, they had their run. That was, that was,
- 3:21Speaker 2: they all had Southern accents.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:22Speaker 2: Larry the Cable guy, definitely Southern accent.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going back on tour, I just saw.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember when I was a kid, you know,
- 3:30Speaker 2: I grew up in a small town in South Carolina
- 3:32Speaker 2: called Bennettsville. There's like 8,000 people there. No one ever
- 3:35Speaker 2: toured there or anything. And I remember some kids went
- 3:37Speaker 2: and saw Jeff Foxworthy, and he came to Florence, South Carolina,
- 3:41Speaker 2: which is like, 45 minutes and like we saw jeff
- 3:44Speaker 2: foxworth that was the first time i'd ever heard of
- 3:46Speaker 2: someone going to a live comedy show oh wow by
- 3:50Speaker 2: the way i'm shivering a little bit because so i
- 3:53Speaker 2: i you know i came from i was in chicago
- 3:57Speaker 2: and i had to get up at like five in
- 3:58Speaker 2: the morning and you had a cold plunge and your
- 4:02Speaker 2: producer was like if you want to jump in the
- 4:04Speaker 2: cold plunge and i was like are you are you
- 4:05Speaker 2: kidding are you serious because i'm a little tired and
- 4:07Speaker 2: i didn't really sleep yesterday and i did it But, like,
- 4:10Speaker 2: I'm a little cold.
- 4:11Speaker 1: I'm a little cold. I'm shivered a little bit. It'll
- 4:14Speaker 1: rattle you. Yeah, no, I'm glad you got in, dude. Yeah,
- 4:17Speaker 1: I got in. I was in there earlier this morning.
- 4:19Speaker 1: I get in now because I don't want to. So
- 4:21Speaker 1: I'm like, let me go do something that I don't
- 4:22Speaker 1: want to do to start my day. And I think
- 4:24Speaker 1: it adjusts my attitude, which I need a lot. And, dude,
- 4:28Speaker 1: I just went to University of South Carolina. We met
- 4:32Speaker 1: a chauffeur over there. His girlfriend had thrown fettuccine, like
- 4:36Speaker 1: a hot thing of boiling fettuccine on him. What? Yeah,
- 4:40Speaker 1: and he had to be like, dude, it's crazy, bro.
- 4:43Speaker 2: That story took a dark turn really fast. That's the
- 4:46Speaker 2: last thing I expected to happen to this guy in
- 4:47Speaker 2: the story is boiling fettuccine thrown on him.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Bro, 100%. Wait, with the water, not.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Okay, because if it was....
- 4:57Speaker 2: Just the fettuccine, that's not too bad. Water in the mix, too, though.
- 5:01Speaker 2: That's a crime.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, it was a crime. And his neck was, like,
- 5:05Speaker 1: dripping off of him and stuff. He went through a lot.
- 5:07Speaker 1: But anyway, met him. He's a chauffeur over there. Stan,
- 5:11Speaker 1: he's out of the Bronx originally. But we just had
- 5:14Speaker 1: him come in. He was just, like, kind of a
- 5:15Speaker 1: unique character. Hey, Trev, will you cut the AC off
- 5:21Speaker 1: just in case? I don't want to fucking lose Aziz.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Am I looking crazy? No, you seem fine. Okay. I
- 5:27Speaker 1: didn't know if I was just sitting there. But no,
- 5:29Speaker 1: I know what you mean. Sometimes if you get that in,
- 5:30Speaker 1: in that AC's on, it's kind of a lot. Um, dude,
- 5:34Speaker 1: is it, is this true? Uh, and thanks so much
- 5:36Speaker 1: for coming in today, man.
- 5:37Speaker 2: Oh man, I really appreciate it. And you know, I,
- 5:40Speaker 2: I'm not really super familiar with a lot of podcasts
- 5:42Speaker 2: and I haven't done a big press tour in like
- 5:46Speaker 2: a long time. Cause you know, the last time I
- 5:48Speaker 2: had something come out was during COVID. So that was weird.
- 5:50Speaker 2: You didn't really do the normal stuff. And then, um,
- 5:53Speaker 2: I've been working on these films for a bit. And
- 5:56Speaker 2: so before I was like, they were like, oh, do
- 5:59Speaker 2: all these podcasts. I was like, well, I'm going to
- 6:00Speaker 2: listen to episodes. And I listened to a couple of years.
- 6:05Speaker 2: I listened to the Bernie Sanders one.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Which I really liked and to me really connected with
- 6:10Speaker 2: my film because the stuff you guys were talking about,
- 6:14Speaker 2: you're talking about something that I hadn't heard where the
- 6:16Speaker 2: number one cause of bankruptcy is medical bills. Yeah. And
- 6:22Speaker 2: in my character in the film, you're never really given
- 6:25Speaker 2: a clear explanation of what happened to this guy. The guy's,
- 6:27Speaker 2: you know, he's lost his job. He's sleeping in his car.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Oh, in Good Fortune, you mean? Yeah.
- 6:32Speaker 2: But it made me think of that, your conversation with
- 6:34Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders. And I was like, oh, man, this is
- 6:36Speaker 2: really in the same kind of realm. And I loved
- 6:40Speaker 2: your episode with Arnold Schwarzenegger. I'm always fascinated by Arnold.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Really?
- 6:44Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think he's so smart and.
- 6:51Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why. I think you realize like
- 6:54Speaker 2: the more you're in this business, especially the in the
- 6:58Speaker 2: kind of movie acting world to like be an actor
- 7:00Speaker 2: that's kind of had a few hits, like a lot
- 7:02Speaker 2: of things have to come together.
- 7:04Speaker 1: And it's not an accident. You know what I mean?
- 7:06Speaker 2: When these guys have this run of hits, like they've
- 7:09Speaker 2: got to be really sharp.
- 7:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty fascinating. I guess we went to
- 7:12Speaker 1: his office, and his Conan thing is in there, and
- 7:16Speaker 1: the sword.
- 7:17Speaker 2: Wait, did you meet that little donkey he has?
- 7:19Speaker 1: I don't know if the donkey was there. There was
- 7:21Speaker 1: some hair on the floor.
- 7:22Speaker 2: That's in his house. This was in his office.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Oh, no, this was his office, yeah. There was some
- 7:25Speaker 1: hair on the floor, but I don't know what it
- 7:26Speaker 1: was from, I don't think. Oh, my God.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a donkey.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Oh, because I think he's very Dutch like that or something.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Yeah, those are mini donkeys.
- 7:38Speaker 1: They look mixed, too.
- 7:39Speaker 2: I met a small donkey in Nashville once. Oh. First off,
- 7:43Speaker 2: I love Nashville. I go to Zany's a lot when I'm, like,
- 7:47Speaker 2: working on sets.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, I think I remember. That's the last thing
- 7:51Speaker 1: I remember. I remember hearing you came to Zany's and did, like,
- 7:53Speaker 1: six or seven nights or something over there.
- 7:55Speaker 2: Yeah, and one time, one of my favorite shows, The
- 7:58Speaker 2: Power Went Out. and I had to do the show. Like,
- 8:01Speaker 2: the power went out, and we were like, what do
- 8:02Speaker 2: we do? And the staff there was amazing. They, like,
- 8:06Speaker 2: immediately brought candles out, and I was, like, yelling my set,
- 8:08Speaker 2: and then some guy, like, brought, like, a speaker and
- 8:11Speaker 2: a microphone.
- 8:11Speaker 1: It was incredible. Oh, dude, I think, didn't they, I
- 8:13Speaker 1: think it was an article or something about that I
- 8:15Speaker 1: even remember. I remember seeing a picture about that, or
- 8:17Speaker 1: at least just hearing about it, like, in local lore,
- 8:19Speaker 1: you know? One thing about Nashville is, dude, it's a
- 8:22Speaker 1: very small city. Like, it's small. It's, like, people, it's,
- 8:26Speaker 1: something happens, you hear about it. It's not, like, It
- 8:28Speaker 1: just feels like a huge town.
- 8:30Speaker 2: How long you lived here?
- 8:31Speaker 1: A really big town. I lived here for, I think,
- 8:33Speaker 1: almost four years. Where were you before? The pandemic. I
- 8:37Speaker 1: was in L.A. Oh, okay. Yeah, and I moved directly
- 8:39Speaker 1: from there because during the pandemic, I remember seeing like
- 8:42Speaker 1: Kid Rock's bar, you know, and people are having a
- 8:44Speaker 1: blast there. And meanwhile, like my landlord is like making
- 8:47Speaker 1: us wear hazmat suits to get our fucking mail and
- 8:50Speaker 1: check because everybody's all paranoid and shit out there. And
- 8:52Speaker 1: I was like, fuck this shit. I gotta fucking go,
- 8:56Speaker 1: you know?
- 8:57Speaker 2: I've always loved Nashville. I did a series for Netflix,
- 9:00Speaker 2: and we filmed an episode here, and I always come
- 9:02Speaker 2: here for stand-up. I did the Ryman. I'd never done
- 9:05Speaker 2: the Ryman. I'd always done some other theater, and I
- 9:06Speaker 2: did the Ryman on this tour a few months ago,
- 9:09Speaker 2: and that's one of the best places I've ever performed. Yeah,
- 9:14Speaker 2: there's that thing. Yeah, that was it. Yes.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Isn't that so crazy?
- 9:18Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:18Speaker 1: A power outage force comedian, Aziz Ansari, finished his set
- 9:21Speaker 1: in the dark Monday night, dude.
- 9:22Speaker 2: That was cool. That was like one of those cool moments.
- 9:25Speaker 1: That was fun.
- 9:26Speaker 2: But when I was here for that trip to get
- 9:29Speaker 2: back to the donkeys, my wife, she's Danish, and she
- 9:37Speaker 2: loves donkeys. And there was some fair here, and they
- 9:42Speaker 2: had miniature donkeys.
- 9:43Speaker 1: Oh, beautiful.
- 9:44Speaker 2: And we sought them out, and we said what's up
- 9:46Speaker 2: to them. One of them, his name was Roger, and
- 9:49Speaker 2: he was born October 4th, so Roger 10-4th. So we
- 9:55Speaker 2: met Roger, and there was another little donkey named Lily,
- 9:57Speaker 2: but I.
- 10:00Speaker 2: Was a little big. I don't know if she was
- 10:01Speaker 2: a micro donkey. Roger was straight up micro. Lily was
- 10:05Speaker 2: a little big. I don't know if she was micro.
- 10:07Speaker 1: At that size, I don't judge their weight, to be
- 10:09Speaker 1: honest with them. You know what I'm saying? Because the bodies,
- 10:11Speaker 1: there's already a lot going on, you know? It's like, yeah,
- 10:15Speaker 1: I think... I think that, I mean, look, I think
- 10:18Speaker 1: they're beautiful. I remember I met the world's smallest horse
- 10:20Speaker 1: one time. When was that and where? And this is,
- 10:25Speaker 1: his name was Tom Thumb and I met him in Alameda,
- 10:29Speaker 1: I believe.
- 10:30Speaker 2: And how did that, how did that intro come about?
- 10:32Speaker 1: Well, people, people are like, you got to go meet
- 10:34Speaker 1: him and shit. And I remember I'd been in a bar.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Alameda is where?
- 10:37Speaker 2: California?
- 10:37Speaker 1: California, yeah.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Okay. So you were doing a show in Alameda and
- 10:40Speaker 2: then like, you gotta, you gotta meet the smallest horse.
- 10:42Speaker 1: No, we'd been out there for a, I was just,
- 10:45Speaker 1: I think I'd heard about it. I think I'd been
- 10:48Speaker 1: in conversations about like smaller animals, animalia generally. The world's. Whoa.
- 10:54Speaker 1: The one I met was Tom Thumb. And if you
- 10:56Speaker 1: can also look up separately on perplexity here, if you
- 10:59Speaker 1: can just look up Theo Von Tom Thumb. I did
- 11:03Speaker 1: a post on it. It was pretty fascinating. What's perplexity?
- 11:06Speaker 1: Perplexity is like a different AI. It does, for me,
- 11:09Speaker 1: I like it because it's a. It can help me
- 11:12Speaker 1: edit and pull clips out of things. You can put
- 11:14Speaker 1: something in it and it'll be like, what clips do
- 11:16Speaker 1: you like in this? What do you suggest? That sort
- 11:18Speaker 1: of thing.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Oh, well.
- 11:19Speaker 1: So it's kind of like an AI, you know?
- 11:22Speaker 2: It's far beyond my.
- 11:24Speaker 1: What?
- 11:24Speaker 2: I don't know any of this stuff.
- 11:26Speaker 1: Dude, what are you talking about? Do people... How do
- 11:28Speaker 1: your parents feel about that?
- 11:30Speaker 2: That I don't know perplexity?
- 11:32Speaker 1: That you don't know about the AIs.
- 11:34Speaker 2: I mean, I know what it is. I don't really
- 11:36Speaker 2: use that stuff much. I don't really use... Internet or
- 11:40Speaker 2: phone or anything very much. I try to stay off.
- 11:42Speaker 3: Yes.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Oh, here we go right here. Let's take a video.
- 11:45Speaker 2: I am into this now.
- 11:46Speaker 1: How long are you going to be here today for?
- 11:49Speaker 1: He'll be here all day?
- 11:49Speaker 2: How small is he?
- 11:51Speaker 1: Whoa.
- 11:52Speaker 3: Whoa.
- 12:04Speaker 1: And he's alive too? That would be dark. You don't
- 12:10Speaker 1: know what people are doing, dude. But yeah, so just
- 12:12Speaker 1: to let you know, I guess we have a lot
- 12:14Speaker 1: of symbiosis there in our love for the small horses.
- 12:18Speaker 2: What are horses and donkeys? What's that?
- 12:21Speaker 1: Ask the AI.
- 12:22Speaker 2: What is that called? What are that kind of animal? Horses, donkeys,
- 12:25Speaker 2: the four-legged kind of, they're similar. There must be some group.
- 12:29Speaker 1: Yeah, what is that called? The equus. Yeah, the equus.
- 12:33Speaker 1: The equine. The equides. But, dude, when you think that
- 12:36Speaker 1: God took all the beauty of a huge horse and
- 12:39Speaker 1: put it into like a baby snicker of a horse,
- 12:41Speaker 1: a little horse. Yeah, there's not. Is there any other
- 12:45Speaker 1: animals that have minis?
- 12:47Speaker 2: Like, because there's many horses, there's many donkeys.
- 12:50Speaker 1: What is it? There's many cows? There are? Oh, wow.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Oh, God, that'd be a dark moment. You go to
- 12:56Speaker 2: a steakhouse, they're like, just so you know, these are
- 12:58Speaker 2: all mini cows.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Yeah. It's still. That's too dark. I'd have a little.
- 13:05Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? You probably could only have
- 13:06Speaker 1: a little. Yeah, that's true, dude.
- 13:08Speaker 2: There's not like a 40-ounce mini cow steak. That's not happening.
- 13:12Speaker 2: It's like he's a one-ounce. It's like when you go
- 13:15Speaker 2: to a sushi restaurant and they have that one little
- 13:17Speaker 2: piece of wagyu.
- 13:18Speaker 1: This is from a mini cow.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Oh, my God. They're all furry. Maybe I'm going to
- 13:25Speaker 2: finish this show and get addicted to the internet because
- 13:27Speaker 2: this is pretty fun. I never knew about mini cows.
- 13:30Speaker 2: I didn't know anything. I would have just been wondering
- 13:32Speaker 2: about equines, equus.
- 13:34Speaker 1: Well, look, dude, I think you could get your wife
- 13:37Speaker 1: one of these. Let me see. Miniature horses rarely exceed
- 13:40Speaker 1: 34 inches in height. Miniature donkeys also max out at
- 13:43Speaker 1: around 34 inches.
- 13:44Speaker 2: There's mini micro pigs. Oh, wait, this is a whole
- 13:47Speaker 2: list of everything there's many of. There's mini horses, donkeys,
- 13:51Speaker 2: pygmy goats. They don't call them micro goats. They prefer
- 13:53Speaker 2: to be referred to as pygmy goats. Mini sheeps, micro pigs.
- 13:58Speaker 2: Micro pigs I've heard of.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Imagine a mini sheep, though.
- 14:01Speaker 2: You could make a very small sweater.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Yeah. You're just sitting there. Oh, dude, we got to
- 14:11Speaker 1: get some of these animals. But, dude, when I was
- 14:13Speaker 1: a kid, they only had big dogs, and then the
- 14:15Speaker 1: dogs started getting littler. A lot of this, I think,
- 14:17Speaker 1: is crossbreeding and inbreeding. You know, I grew up in
- 14:20Speaker 1: a kind of an– not an inbreeding district, but I
- 14:22Speaker 1: grew up in, like, certainly, like, the stray animal belt
- 14:25Speaker 1: and the inbreeding belt kind of like they– you can,
- 14:29Speaker 1: they run across some of the same planes in America. Okay.
- 14:32Speaker 1: And we would see a lot of, you know, people
- 14:35Speaker 1: start getting smaller over time in the area. Cause you,
- 14:37Speaker 1: and that's when you knew like, okay, people need to
- 14:40Speaker 1: start walking farther or driving farther for sex, you know,
- 14:44Speaker 1: cause you just knew the in reading was heating up,
- 14:46Speaker 1: you know, you knew the kettle, the kettle was getting
- 14:48Speaker 1: a little warm, you know, um, when somebody would have
- 14:51Speaker 1: a baby and they could just put it on like
- 14:52Speaker 1: a key ring or whatever. It was like, that thing's
- 14:54Speaker 1: too small, you know? Um, Good to see you, man,
- 14:59Speaker 1: because we've never really gotten to talk and it's good
- 15:00Speaker 1: to laugh with somebody.
- 15:02Speaker 2: You know, I love meeting comedians that I haven't met before.
- 15:07Speaker 2: I was thinking this the other day, like when I
- 15:12Speaker 2: was on tour, I was, you know, I bring some
- 15:14Speaker 2: of the same guys out with me.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Who do you take with you? Sorry to interject. Wilson Vince.
- 15:21Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 15:21Speaker 1: He's in the movie, isn't he?
- 15:22Speaker 2: Will's in the movie and Ricky Velez. They came out
- 15:26Speaker 2: with me a lot early this year. And then our
- 15:29Speaker 2: tour manager, Beth, who I love.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Will especially. Have you ever met Will? Do you know
- 15:34Speaker 1: Will at all? I don't know him, but I recognized
- 15:35Speaker 1: him immediately. I know him, but I don't know him well.
- 15:40Speaker 2: The hardest I laugh in my life is after shows
- 15:44Speaker 2: going to dinner with Will. Because he's just... The most
- 15:49Speaker 2: ridiculous guy. And he just, he's so funny. Like, just
- 15:53Speaker 2: this stuff. Like, this is one of my favorite Will anecdotes.
- 15:56Speaker 2: One time I told him, I said, I wanted to
- 15:58Speaker 2: send him a playlist of some music. And he's like,
- 16:01Speaker 2: I don't use Spotify. And I was like, well, what
- 16:03Speaker 2: do you use? He goes, I use Amazon Music.
- 16:05Speaker 1: Oh, type shit.
- 16:06Speaker 2: And I was like, why do you use Amazon Music?
- 16:08Speaker 2: He's like, because I like to download the MP3s and
- 16:10Speaker 2: burn them on the CDs. I was like, this is
- 16:13Speaker 2: such a unique dude.
- 16:15Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it sounds illegal, but it also sounds
- 16:18Speaker 1: like I respect it, you know?
- 16:20Speaker 2: But I'll just say I love comedians. Comedians are my
- 16:24Speaker 2: favorite people.
- 16:25Speaker 1: Well, I think in the end, it's like you have
- 16:27Speaker 1: to realize how rare it is that people do it
- 16:29Speaker 1: and that we do all have something in common.
- 16:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 16:33Speaker 1: And it used to feel like a lot more like that.
- 16:34Speaker 2: Again, it's like the Southern accent. It's like when I
- 16:36Speaker 2: see another Indian person, there's something that pulls me towards them.
- 16:40Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 16:40Speaker 2: It makes me comfortable.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Yeah, I think some of that's just tribes, you know?
- 16:44Speaker 1: There's a little bit of like, whatever's built into us.
- 16:47Speaker 2: Um, what a specific tribe to, you know, cause most people's,
- 16:51Speaker 2: you know, most people's worst fear is public speaking and
- 16:54Speaker 2: it's what we do for a living. So there's something
- 16:58Speaker 2: deep inside. That's a bond with all of us has.
- 17:01Speaker 1: To be, Oh, we're like Satan's mini.
- 17:03Speaker 2: Donkeys of self-esteem.
- 17:05Speaker 1: Yeah. Self-esteem.
- 17:07Speaker 2: That's why we need so much approval with laughter.
- 17:10Speaker 1: It's like if you pet me enough. Micro self-esteem people.
- 17:13Speaker 1: If you pet me enough, I'll grow into a regular
- 17:15Speaker 1: size horse.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. We get enough laughs. We play enough theaters.
- 17:19Speaker 2: If you graduate to arenas, then we become full size people.
- 17:23Speaker 1: This is enough. That's hilarious. It's almost like our Pinocchio story.
- 17:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 17:28Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. I stayed up watching the movie last night,
- 17:30Speaker 1: Good Fortune. That's your, it's a new movie.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 17:34Speaker 1: Dude, the amount of turns that were, that started to happen.
- 17:37Speaker 1: I'm about like, I guess maybe 45 minutes in. The
- 17:40Speaker 1: amount of turns that started to happen in the plot,
- 17:42Speaker 1: really were making it heat up. Oh, well, thank you.
- 17:45Speaker 1: It's cool, dude. And Keanu Reeves, he's like this, like,
- 17:51Speaker 1: he almost reminds me of like a surfer dude that
- 17:53Speaker 1: won best in show at Westminster type of vibe. You
- 17:55Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
- 17:57Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a little bit of California kind of, but
- 18:01Speaker 2: he's very sweet, like a little pup.
- 18:03Speaker 1: And his posture is so good. It seemed like he
- 18:06Speaker 1: would win best in show. Like, he seems like he
- 18:08Speaker 1: has very good posture.
- 18:09Speaker 2: I never noticed his posture.
- 18:10Speaker 1: You didn't?
- 18:12Speaker 2: No, but, you know, I remember when we first started
- 18:14Speaker 2: screening the movie, as soon as he came up on screen,
- 18:18Speaker 2: I could tell there was something like, whoa, this dude's
- 18:20Speaker 2: a movie star. And it's not just that he's handsome.
- 18:22Speaker 2: There's something, this other, you know, there's this other thing.
- 18:27Speaker 2: That he has. And he's so funny in the movie.
- 18:30Speaker 2: I mean, he just kills. And by the end of
- 18:34Speaker 2: the movie, when I've watched it with crowds, he's just
- 18:37Speaker 2: doing the smallest thing and just getting huge laughs. Yeah, but.
- 18:42Speaker 1: You directed and wrote and you're in it, right? You
- 18:44Speaker 1: wrote it too? I wrote it. Dude, that's awesome, bro. Directed, produced, acted, everything.
- 18:49Speaker 2: Too much.
- 18:50Speaker 1: So you have control issues, you think?
- 18:52Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit, but in a positive way as well.
- 18:55Speaker 2: Seth Rogen's in the movie, and he does his show,
- 18:57Speaker 2: The Studio, and we've talked about that, because he does
- 19:01Speaker 2: everything on that. There's something that's kind of streamlined about it. Like, oh,
- 19:06Speaker 2: I had this idea, this is how I'm going to
- 19:10Speaker 2: write it. For me, whenever I'm writing something, I kind
- 19:13Speaker 2: of have an idea in my head of how I
- 19:15Speaker 2: want it to sound and look and everything, and directing
- 19:18Speaker 2: is pretty much just Conveying that to a group of
- 19:21Speaker 2: people to execute it.
- 19:23Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:24Speaker 2: So if it's all coming from one person and if
- 19:26Speaker 2: you're one of the people acting, it does make things easier.
- 19:28Speaker 1: In a sense. Yeah, man. That does make a lot
- 19:32Speaker 1: of sense, dude. Yeah.
- 19:33Speaker 2: And, you know, you have other people like Seth and
- 19:36Speaker 2: Keanu who, you know, they have iconic voices. So when
- 19:39Speaker 2: I'm writing, I have their voice in the head. And
- 19:41Speaker 2: then when they're there, they do it like even funnier
- 19:45Speaker 2: than you think they were gonna do it when you
- 19:47Speaker 2: had in your head they add something or improvise and
- 19:50Speaker 2: and you know the goal is really you have like
- 19:53Speaker 2: the version in your head and then you have this
- 19:55Speaker 2: whole crew and cast and you kind of convey your
- 19:58Speaker 2: vision and then they take that and then they give
- 20:00Speaker 2: you something else that's something from them and it becomes
- 20:04Speaker 2: better than you thought.
- 20:05Speaker 1: How long was you guys to shoot for um.
- 20:09Speaker 2: Well, it was a little weird because we shot like
- 20:11Speaker 2: one or two days and then the writer's strike happened.
- 20:13Speaker 2: We have to stop for a few months.
- 20:14Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 20:16Speaker 2: And then we came back and this sounds crazy when
- 20:21Speaker 2: I'm saying it out loud. So we came back after
- 20:23Speaker 2: the writer's strike, which was like, I don't know, seven
- 20:25Speaker 2: months or something. It was a while.
- 20:27Speaker 1: And were people pregnant and stuff? Like, was it different? No,
- 20:30Speaker 1: no one got pregnant, but no, everyone was still the same. Oh,
- 20:33Speaker 1: thank God.
- 20:34Speaker 2: We shot for like a couple of days and then
- 20:36Speaker 2: Keanu broke his knee. He broke his kneecap like on
- 20:40Speaker 2: our like second or third day back.
- 20:41Speaker 1: What was he doing?
- 20:44Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds insane as I'm saying it out loud.
- 20:46Speaker 2: Cause this guy has done all the matrix movies, all
- 20:49Speaker 2: the John Wick movies never got hurt.
- 20:51Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 20:51Speaker 2: We filmed a scene in a cold plunge and he
- 20:54Speaker 2: was going back to his dressing room. He was all
- 20:57Speaker 2: wrapped up in a robe and everything. And he like
- 20:59Speaker 2: tripped on a rug and fell on his knee and
- 21:01Speaker 2: broke his kneecap.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
- 21:04Speaker 2: They got pictures of him in the crutches here on,
- 21:06Speaker 2: on perplexity.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Uh, No, he broke his freaking kneecap. And were you
- 21:10Speaker 1: guys right there? Could you hear it?
- 21:13Speaker 2: No, no. It was in his dressing room. So I
- 21:16Speaker 2: just heard like someone on the walk. He's like, oh,
- 21:19Speaker 2: Keanu's down.
- 21:20Speaker 1: So he went through it alone.
- 21:22Speaker 2: Yeah, he fell down. And then they were like, he's hurt.
- 21:24Speaker 2: And then he came down. He was ready to film
- 21:25Speaker 2: right away. His knee was like bleeding like crazy. And
- 21:27Speaker 2: we're like, hey, man, maybe you should go to a doctor.
- 21:29Speaker 1: And he was like, no, no, no.
- 21:31Speaker 2: Let's shoot. He loves shooting. He just wants to shoot.
- 21:36Speaker 2: But anyway... We could film most of his stuff. He had, like,
- 21:40Speaker 2: a knee brace that we, like, edited out with VFX.
- 21:43Speaker 1: He didn't get that stupid one with the wheels on it,
- 21:45Speaker 1: did he? No, he didn't have the wheels.
- 21:46Speaker 2: I just kind of mean to call it stupid, man.
- 21:48Speaker 2: That's something people got to use.
- 21:51Speaker 1: But, dude, I saw some drunk lady and her husband.
- 21:55Speaker 1: They were going down Broadway in Nashville.
- 21:59Speaker 2: I know the thing you're talking about. It's kind of
- 22:01Speaker 2: like this thing.
- 22:02Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like a mini scooter.
- 22:04Speaker 2: My friend broke Tori's Achilles heel, and he had to
- 22:07Speaker 2: use that for a while.
- 22:08Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the X Games of being crippled or whatever.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little weird. Yeah, it seems a little silly.
- 22:14Speaker 2: He didn't have one of those. He just had a
- 22:15Speaker 2: big knee brace. But we had these scenes where he had,
- 22:18Speaker 2: like most of the stuff we could kind of figure
- 22:20Speaker 2: it out, but there was a couple of scenes where
- 22:21Speaker 2: we needed him to dance. There's a whole thing where
- 22:23Speaker 2: he starts dancing cumbia, and we were like, Kiana, we
- 22:26Speaker 2: can't shoot the cumbia stuff. So we came back after
- 22:30Speaker 2: his leg healed and shot a few more days. But
- 22:33Speaker 2: it was like a 30-day shoot.
- 22:35Speaker 1: Oh, wow. It's fast. That's a lot of work.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not too much, but it's not too little.
- 22:40Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 22:41Speaker 1: Yeah, we just, David Spade and I made a movie,
- 22:43Speaker 1: and I can't talk about it anymore on here because
- 22:44Speaker 1: we've talked about it a lot, but.
- 22:46Speaker 2: How many days?
- 22:46Speaker 1: 23 days.
- 22:48Speaker 2: That's pretty tight. I mean, I don't know the script
- 22:50Speaker 2: or anything, but 23, you know, that's.
- 22:52Speaker 1: It's a lot of work. But over 30, yeah, we
- 22:54Speaker 1: probably had a few days off in between, you know,
- 22:56Speaker 1: but it was a lot. It was like the fires
- 22:57Speaker 1: that happens. We had to move. Oh God. One scene
- 23:00Speaker 1: that just happens to be fire in it. You're like, okay,
- 23:02Speaker 1: well this has to be part of it because you've
- 23:04Speaker 1: already set up for the day and whatever the space
- 23:06Speaker 1: is going to be. So like one day it's crazy
- 23:09Speaker 1: winds and winds were like 45 miles an hour. I
- 23:12Speaker 1: remember that.
- 23:13Speaker 2: I was in LA during right, right during the fires.
- 23:15Speaker 2: I remember the day before there was a crazy winds.
- 23:17Speaker 2: I was like, what's happening?
- 23:18Speaker 1: Okay. So we're like talking about kites. We wrote that
- 23:20Speaker 1: into the script. Like, yeah, we should get some kites.
- 23:22Speaker 1: You wrote it in afterwards. Yeah. Just to add like, yeah,
- 23:24Speaker 1: maybe we'll get some kites after, you know, we like
- 23:26Speaker 1: threw in a line. It's like just trying to make
- 23:28Speaker 1: things make sense, you know, cause you just have, you're
- 23:30Speaker 1: already set up. Everybody's already driven there. The people are there.
- 23:33Speaker 1: There's a lady standing there with makeup. You know what
- 23:36Speaker 1: I'm saying? People have washed their bodies and gotten in
- 23:39Speaker 1: their vehicles and gotten over there. People have put on deodorant.
- 23:42Speaker 1: People have put on clean panties and men's panties or
- 23:46Speaker 1: whatever they're called. Men's underwear.
- 23:48Speaker 2: They put on their undergarments and they showed up.
- 23:50Speaker 1: And it's a lot of people.
- 23:51Speaker 2: And it's crazy because you write these random things and
- 23:56Speaker 2: then– All these people get to work to do it,
- 23:59Speaker 2: and it's like some silly joke about a pillowcase or whatever. Like, oh,
- 24:02Speaker 2: which pillowcase do you want to use?
- 24:04Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes it's dumb as that. Like, all these people
- 24:07Speaker 1: drive to one place just so somebody can be like,
- 24:09Speaker 1: Rick is a bitch. And you're like, okay, that's lunch.
- 24:12Speaker 1: You're like, that fucking took four hours? God, and Ricky's
- 24:17Speaker 1: not even a bitch anymore. He's had a surgery by
- 24:19Speaker 1: the end of the day. You know what I'm saying?
- 24:20Speaker 1: So everything's changed.
- 24:22Speaker 2: It blows my mind that, you know, because it's like
- 24:24Speaker 2: stand up. You do these things and you're just on
- 24:27Speaker 2: a mic and there's people there listening. But when you
- 24:29Speaker 2: write a joke for a movie, there's all these trucks.
- 24:32Speaker 2: Everybody's showed up. It's it's it really makes you pause
- 24:36Speaker 2: for a second. I don't know if you had this
- 24:38Speaker 2: thing where you're like. Oh, man, this is a lot.
- 24:40Speaker 1: I hope this is worth it for these people.
- 24:43Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 24:44Speaker 1: I remember the first day we got to set, I
- 24:47Speaker 1: was like, holy shit. I thought this had just been
- 24:49Speaker 1: a bunch of emails, you know? And it was like
- 24:52Speaker 1: all the emails that come together in real life. Like
- 24:54Speaker 1: there was trailers. There was some guy got electrocuted. Oh, no. Yeah.
- 24:59Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:00Speaker 1: But it was like everything, you know, you were like, Oh,
- 25:03Speaker 1: people are acting or some guy practicing his things. They're
- 25:06Speaker 1: like firing an extra, like all the shit was going on,
- 25:09Speaker 1: you know, like some guys just like, you know, I
- 25:12Speaker 1: had bought the wrong peanut, just all the shit's happening.
- 25:15Speaker 1: You know, there's no coffee. There was always no coffee
- 25:17Speaker 1: when I got over there. It's fine. But it was
- 25:20Speaker 1: just like, it's fascinating to see it happen. And it's
- 25:23Speaker 1: one of those things that has to like, it's so
- 25:26Speaker 1: expensive to do that. You have to get it done
- 25:28Speaker 1: on that day. It's like, whatever elements come, if somebody
- 25:31Speaker 1: breaks their leg, if somebody goes missing, you have to,
- 25:34Speaker 1: for an hour, you have to like shoot around. It's
- 25:36Speaker 1: just all these little things that kind of go on,
- 25:38Speaker 1: you know?
- 25:38Speaker 2: I was telling someone, people always ask me like, what's
- 25:40Speaker 2: the difference between doing standup and doing a film? To me,
- 25:44Speaker 2: doing standup, it's like, you're running around a track and
- 25:48Speaker 2: you go, hey, I'm ready to go. And then you
- 25:51Speaker 2: go to all these cities and you run around the
- 25:53Speaker 2: track and you're done. And a movie is like, You
- 25:57Speaker 2: have to go to these people and go, hey, I
- 25:59Speaker 2: want to climb this mountain. Can you give me money
- 26:00Speaker 2: to climb this mountain? And they're like, let me see
- 26:04Speaker 2: your plan, which is like your script. And they're like, hmm, well,
- 26:06Speaker 2: we can give you this much. Oh, that's not really
- 26:08Speaker 2: enough supplies. And then they're like, well, can Brad Pitt
- 26:11Speaker 2: climb the mountain with you? Can you get, you know,
- 26:14Speaker 2: these other famous, can, you know. And then if you're
- 26:18Speaker 2: lucky enough to even get to start climbing the mountain,
- 26:20Speaker 2: then people just start throwing boulders at you. Hey, here's
- 26:22Speaker 2: the writer's strike. Hey, there's the fires in L.A. Oh, wait,
- 26:27Speaker 2: Keanu's broke his kneecap.
- 26:28Speaker 1: And it is a positive blood test. You're like, oh, yeah.
- 26:32Speaker 1: That's rough. It's all just.
- 26:35Speaker 2: You're just trying to avoid all these different disasters. And
- 26:39Speaker 2: if you're lucky, you make it to the top. But
- 26:42Speaker 2: it's so much harder. There's so much more that's out
- 26:46Speaker 2: of your control. Stand-up is so... In your control. Yeah,
- 26:50Speaker 2: there's something so pure and beautiful about stand-up. I like
- 26:52Speaker 2: doing both. But there is something so pure and beautiful
- 26:56Speaker 2: about stand-up where it's just literally a person talking in
- 26:59Speaker 2: a microphone. It's kind of... such a pure and direct
- 27:03Speaker 2: art form and filmmaking. There's so many other things that
- 27:07Speaker 2: are out of your control and it's a lot more complex,
- 27:09Speaker 2: but it's rewarding in its own way. I mean, I
- 27:11Speaker 2: think about how, you know, I'll, I'm working on other
- 27:16Speaker 2: scripts now and I'll, I'll have some joke and it'll,
- 27:18Speaker 2: it'll be like, whoa, this will be maybe years from
- 27:21Speaker 2: now before I'll see this joke play in a theater
- 27:24Speaker 2: and hear a crowd of people laugh. And then a
- 27:27Speaker 2: standup joke, you know, you were, I could think of
- 27:29Speaker 2: something tonight and go to a comedy club and try
- 27:31Speaker 2: it and hear, get a laugh. And that's so satisfying.
- 27:34Speaker 2: But there's also something crazy about like, I remember I
- 27:37Speaker 2: started writing good fortune, like probably in the pandemic, I
- 27:40Speaker 2: started writing it on and off and there's jokes I
- 27:43Speaker 2: wrote in. And then years later, it's like, I'm in
- 27:45Speaker 2: a theater in Burbank and Keanu Reeves is saying the
- 27:48Speaker 2: joke and you know, a crowd full of people goes
- 27:51Speaker 2: crazy and they're both amazing, but in different ways.
- 27:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
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- 30:47Speaker 1: you'll never get to make but you think it would
- 30:49Speaker 1: be cool? Like it's so ridiculous? Have there ever been
- 30:53Speaker 1: something like that?
- 30:54Speaker 2: Well, I mean, right now it's so hard to get
- 30:57Speaker 2: any movie made. They all feel like, oh, man, I
- 30:59Speaker 2: hope I can make this. You know, I've got two
- 31:01Speaker 2: movies that I– two other scripts that I've written. I
- 31:04Speaker 2: had this movie with Bill Murray that I was doing
- 31:05Speaker 2: that got shut down. I want to finish that.
- 31:08Speaker 1: Why? What happened?
- 31:10Speaker 2: Oh, well, Bill Murray– was part of this movie we
- 31:15Speaker 2: did called Being Mortal. Being Mortal is a book by
- 31:18Speaker 2: this gentleman named Atul Gawande. It's all about end-of-life issues.
- 31:22Speaker 2: It's about stuff that people my age are dealing with
- 31:28Speaker 2: with their parents. Maybe not all the people my age,
- 31:30Speaker 2: but people older. They're getting sick, you've got to put
- 31:33Speaker 2: them in retirement homes, and you've got to figure all
- 31:35Speaker 2: this stuff out. Very, you know, very interesting book. Cool book?
- 31:40Speaker 2: Very highly recommend this book.
- 31:42Speaker 1: Have you met Atul Gawande?
- 31:43Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I had to talk to Atul to get
- 31:45Speaker 2: rights to the book. And when I decided to turn
- 31:47Speaker 2: in the script, he helped me. Is he cool? There
- 31:52Speaker 2: he is.
- 31:53Speaker 1: Very cool.
- 31:53Speaker 2: Very smart guy. And so I thought, okay, this is
- 32:02Speaker 2: like the book is not a fiction book. It's nonfiction.
- 32:07Speaker 2: But I was like, oh man, if you turn this
- 32:08Speaker 2: into a story, there's things that are funny, even though
- 32:12Speaker 2: it's dark, you know? Like, there's things that are funny about, like,
- 32:15Speaker 2: you know, you have to go, like, take your parents to, like, all,
- 32:19Speaker 2: or your mom or dad, you have to take them
- 32:20Speaker 2: to all these different retirement homes, and, like, they, you know,
- 32:23Speaker 2: all these people in his book, they'd always be like,
- 32:24Speaker 2: I don't want to be in here, everybody in here
- 32:25Speaker 2: is old, it's like, that's people's perspective, it's kind of funny, and,
- 32:31Speaker 2: and just, like, how out of depth you are talking
- 32:33Speaker 2: to these doctors, doctors talk to you, like, you know,
- 32:35Speaker 2: you know these super complicated things, they're like, anyway, so
- 32:38Speaker 2: what do you want to do, if you do this,
- 32:39Speaker 2: You know, he might be paralyzed, but if you do this,
- 32:42Speaker 2: you know, you're like, wait, what?
- 32:43Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you do this, he might be able
- 32:44Speaker 1: to do a backflip. And you're like, well, that's a
- 32:47Speaker 1: mixed bag.
- 32:48Speaker 2: It's so, you're just immediately out of your depth.
- 32:52Speaker 1: But anyway.
- 32:53Speaker 2: I read the story and read the book and, and you,
- 32:56Speaker 2: you notice these patterns, like the parents are like, no,
- 32:58Speaker 2: I'm fine. I'm fine. And then they like drive their
- 33:00Speaker 2: car through the house or something. And then you're like, oh,
- 33:02Speaker 2: we got to take you to home, man. You know,
- 33:03Speaker 2: that kind of thing.
- 33:04Speaker 1: That's really how it happens though, for people.
- 33:06Speaker 2: It's really how it happens. And I was like, well,
- 33:08Speaker 2: if you did a story about this and the guy
- 33:10Speaker 2: was Bill Murray, that could be really funny and really poignant.
- 33:14Speaker 2: Cause he, you know, I think about him in like
- 33:16Speaker 2: lost in translation or broken flowers. And, and he's one
- 33:19Speaker 2: of these, he's got this rare ability to be so
- 33:22Speaker 2: funny that but so grounded and touching and sincere. So
- 33:27Speaker 2: I wrote the whole thing with him in mind. And
- 33:30Speaker 2: there was no like, oh, I'll get another guy. It
- 33:32Speaker 2: was like, this movie only works in my head if
- 33:34Speaker 2: it's Bill Murray. I can't think of anybody else.
- 33:38Speaker 1: I wrote it.
- 33:39Speaker 2: And he's like famously the hardest guy to get a
- 33:42Speaker 2: hold of.
- 33:43Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't even get him.
- 33:44Speaker 2: Yeah. I knew him a little bit socially. I had
- 33:47Speaker 2: his number. I call him. He answers the phone. I said, hey,
- 33:49Speaker 2: I have a script that I wrote. uh, you know,
- 33:52Speaker 2: I said, hello, whatever. And we talked for a minute.
- 33:53Speaker 2: And I said, I was calling him because I wrote
- 33:55Speaker 2: the script and, and I think he'd be great. And
- 33:57Speaker 2: he's like, oh, that's wonderful. You know, mail it to
- 33:58Speaker 2: my house.
- 33:59Speaker 1: Very old school.
- 34:00Speaker 2: He's like printed out, sent it to my house. So
- 34:01Speaker 2: I sent it to him. He calls me like a
- 34:03Speaker 2: couple of weeks later. He's like, yeah, I, I like this.
- 34:06Speaker 2: Can you send me the book? I sent him the book.
- 34:08Speaker 2: He was really into the book as well. And, um,
- 34:12Speaker 2: we eventually set it up. Seth Rogen plays his son.
- 34:15Speaker 2: Kiki Palmer is playing Seth's wife. And we shot for
- 34:21Speaker 2: like three weeks and then something happened on set where
- 34:25Speaker 2: Bill was inappropriate with someone that was working on the film.
- 34:29Speaker 1: Oh, I remember something about that.
- 34:33Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:33Speaker 1: And was it real or was it fabricated? Who knows?
- 34:36Speaker 2: Uh, I mean, something really happened.
- 34:37Speaker 1: Okay. So something occurred and people felt their ways about it, right? Yeah.
- 34:40Speaker 2: I don't want to get into it too much because
- 34:42Speaker 2: it's not my story to tell.
- 34:43Speaker 1: So something happened on set and you had to shut
- 34:45Speaker 1: the movie down. Yeah.
- 34:46Speaker 2: He, he had a mask on a COVID mask and, uh,
- 34:50Speaker 2: this is from what I understand. He had a COVID
- 34:52Speaker 2: mask on and he was trying to be funny and
- 34:55Speaker 2: he was kissing this woman that he was friends with,
- 34:57Speaker 2: with the mask on trying to be funny. But this
- 35:00Speaker 2: woman didn't like this and was, was upset. And, um,
- 35:04Speaker 2: And eventually it turned into this whole thing, and they
- 35:06Speaker 2: shut the whole movie down. Yeah. There's the Wikipedia page. But, yes,
- 35:13Speaker 2: this is what Bill said at the time. I did
- 35:15Speaker 2: something I thought was funny. It wasn't taken that way.
- 35:17Speaker 1: The company, the movie studio, wanted to do the right thing,
- 35:19Speaker 1: so they wanted to check it all out, investigate it,
- 35:21Speaker 1: so they stopped the production. Yeah.
- 35:24Speaker 2: The whole movie shut down. Dang. It wasn't 75%. We
- 35:29Speaker 2: shot like half of it. But anyway, I can't remember what, what,
- 35:34Speaker 2: how we started on this, but that, um, yeah, I'd
- 35:37Speaker 2: love to finish that at some point, you know, if
- 35:38Speaker 2: we can, because, you know, it was, it was, uh,
- 35:41Speaker 2: it was very special, but. Gosh, that must've been, it's
- 35:44Speaker 2: been heartbreaking for everybody. It was, but it was one
- 35:48Speaker 2: of those things that was so crazy. I don't think
- 35:50Speaker 2: I ever fully processed it. I mean, you want to
- 35:52Speaker 2: know something crazy? I remember the week it happened. I
- 35:55Speaker 2: was getting married that summer and my friends had, uh,
- 36:02Speaker 2: They wanted to plan some sort of bachelor party for you.
- 36:04Speaker 2: I'm not like, hey, let's go to the strip club
- 36:07Speaker 2: kind of guy. They were like, we're going to go
- 36:10Speaker 2: to a restaurant and go to the spa or something
- 36:11Speaker 2: like that. Like a very silly kind of thing.
- 36:13Speaker 1: Go to like a math-a-thon or something. What's a math-a-thon?
- 36:17Speaker 1: Where people are doing math? Yeah, aggressive people. Is that
- 36:19Speaker 1: a real thing or did you just make up that word?
- 36:21Speaker 1: I don't know. But I could see for some reason.
- 36:25Speaker 2: You think that's what I'm into? No, I'm not into math-a-thons. Wait,
- 36:28Speaker 2: it's a real thing. It's a fundraising event where you
- 36:30Speaker 2: do math.
- 36:32Speaker 1: Wow.
- 36:33Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
- 36:33Speaker 1: Zuckerberg was a mathlete. Andrew Wang was a mathlete. No,
- 36:38Speaker 1: Alexander Wang was a mathlete. A lot of those tech
- 36:41Speaker 1: bros were mathletes, dude.
- 36:42Speaker 2: Alexander Wang, the fashion guy?
- 36:44Speaker 1: No, there's a new one. A new Alexander Wang? That
- 36:48Speaker 1: guy died or something, I think.
- 36:50Speaker 2: Wait, I don't think he did. This is a different guy. Oh,
- 36:53Speaker 2: this is a Gen Z billionaire. This is Alexander without
- 36:56Speaker 2: the E. A.
- 36:57Speaker 1: Wang, they call him in the streets, boy. Whoa, he's
- 36:59Speaker 1: 28 years old. In the tech trenches, deep in the modem.
- 37:02Speaker 2: Is this screen with the guy looking stuff up with
- 37:05Speaker 2: you around all the time or just when you do
- 37:07Speaker 2: the podcast?
- 37:07Speaker 1: That would be so great.
- 37:09Speaker 2: Because I'm the opposite of this. I never look anything up.
- 37:14Speaker 2: You know what my wife said to me yesterday? I
- 37:17Speaker 2: don't keep a smartphone on me. I blocked all shit
- 37:21Speaker 2: on the internet. I don't really use the internet. So
- 37:23Speaker 2: sometimes I'll just ask my wife stuff the same way
- 37:26Speaker 2: you're asking this guy. And she's like, you know I'm
- 37:29Speaker 2: not the internet. I'm your wife. Because what I'm secretly
- 37:34Speaker 2: asking without asking is like, can you look that up
- 37:36Speaker 2: for me? Because I can't look it up. And she's like,
- 37:39Speaker 2: I'm not the internet.
- 37:40Speaker 1: Yeah. It was a dark moment. You married just to
- 37:46Speaker 1: have the internet. That's so great.
- 37:48Speaker 2: I just needed to have a smartphone without having one,
- 37:50Speaker 2: so that's why I got married.
- 37:52Speaker 1: She said that to me. I'm not the internet.
- 37:55Speaker 2: She loves me very much. We were just texting about
- 37:58Speaker 2: how much we love each other.
- 37:59Speaker 1: It sounds like it. Look, we believe all that. It's tough, man.
- 38:02Speaker 1: It's tough.
- 38:02Speaker 2: I mean, I've gotten lost and had to call her
- 38:08Speaker 2: and been like, hey, where are.
- 38:11Speaker 1: We?
- 38:12Speaker 2: I'm here. I can't find a man. Because I live
- 38:15Speaker 2: in London. You live in London? Yeah, most of the
- 38:18Speaker 2: time I'm there because we met in London. We lived there.
- 38:21Speaker 1: Oh, your wife is in London? Don't pull up the ex-girlfriend.
- 38:23Speaker 2: She's in some... Some of these photos are wrong. But anyway,
- 38:28Speaker 2: we live in London. We met there and, you know.
- 38:34Speaker 1: Does she speak Danish as well?
- 38:35Speaker 2: Yeah, she speaks Danish. And I love languages, but Danish
- 38:37Speaker 2: is pretty tough.
- 38:38Speaker 1: Is it?
- 38:39Speaker 2: It's tough, yeah.
- 38:40Speaker 1: Is it romantic? Is it considered a romantic language?
- 38:42Speaker 2: Oh, this gets back to the donkey thing.
- 38:45Speaker 1: Okay.
- 38:45Speaker 2: So she said that, I was like, well, what's like
- 38:48Speaker 2: a Danish term of affection? Like maybe we can use that.
- 38:50Speaker 2: And she said it was like skit. And I was like,
- 38:53Speaker 2: that sounds harsh. That doesn't sound very sweet. And we
- 38:57Speaker 2: were somewhere where we saw donkey. And I said, what's
- 38:59Speaker 2: the word for donkey? And she said, Essel. Essel? Essel.
- 39:05Speaker 2: And she said it was her first word and that
- 39:07Speaker 2: she loved donkeys. And I was like, why don't we
- 39:09Speaker 2: call each other that? And so we started calling each
- 39:12Speaker 2: other that. Yeah. And now I have, you see that AE,
- 39:15Speaker 2: that's here on this chain, the AE. And that's what
- 39:18Speaker 2: led to us being the little mini donkey in Nashville.
- 39:22Speaker 2: Where we are now. Boom.
- 39:25Speaker 1: God.
- 39:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 39:27Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 39:28Speaker 1: Oh, you're my little.
- 39:30Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
- 39:31Speaker 1: But yeah, it's pretty close.
- 39:33Speaker 2: Yeah. That's, that's it.
- 39:35Speaker 1: Pretty close.
- 39:36Speaker 2: I mean, no, you said it right. You're actually saying
- 39:37Speaker 2: it better than I do. You're doing the combined A.E. Yeah,
- 39:41Speaker 2: that Danish is, you know, it's like, wait a second.
- 39:43Speaker 2: Now we're coming up with new letters. You're combining the
- 39:46Speaker 2: A and E. You know, I can speak Italian okay.
- 39:49Speaker 2: My family speaks Tamil. It's an Indian language. I can
- 39:51Speaker 2: speak that a little bit. But Danish is a tricky one. Well,
- 39:55Speaker 2: a lot of them are cis and bigender now. Some
- 39:59Speaker 2: vowels are. Like, there'll be a vowel that is trans now.
- 40:03Speaker 2: It's changing identity. Yeah, it's like, what's the other one?
- 40:06Speaker 2: How do we even pronounce you, bro?
- 40:08Speaker 1: That's all we want.
- 40:09Speaker 2: Hey, we just want to show you respect and do
- 40:11Speaker 2: it right.
- 40:11Speaker 1: Do whatever you want, but we just need to know
- 40:14Speaker 1: how to use you in a word. And some vowels
- 40:16Speaker 1: now are like, I don't want to be in your
- 40:18Speaker 1: fucking words or whatever. And we're like, bitch or sir,
- 40:21Speaker 1: just be in the fucking word, dude. You're a letter.
- 40:24Speaker 1: But that's where it's at now, man.
- 40:26Speaker 2: Dan, it's tough because we'll be there.
- 40:28Speaker 1: Oh, that's not a real thing.
- 40:30Speaker 2: Which thing? The O with the circle?
- 40:32Speaker 1: Elon's kid's name? I don't know. ASO.
- 40:37Speaker 2: You're saying it right. That's pretty good pronunciation. No, and
- 40:40Speaker 2: whenever we're in Denmark and I try to read a word,
- 40:43Speaker 2: I'll try to pronounce it right, and I just don't
- 40:46Speaker 2: know the pronunciation rules. I get everything wrong. But wait,
- 40:48Speaker 2: how do we start talking? Oh, because I use it
- 40:50Speaker 2: as a phone. Sometimes I'm walking around in London, and London,
- 40:54Speaker 2: there's a lot of maps on the street.
- 40:56Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 40:57Speaker 2: So if I get lost, I can find the map
- 40:59Speaker 2: and kind of make my way. But sometimes I'll like
- 41:01Speaker 2: keep walking around hoping to run into one of these
- 41:04Speaker 2: maps and I won't run into one and I have
- 41:05Speaker 2: to call her and I have to be like, hey,
- 41:07Speaker 2: I'm over here.
- 41:08Speaker 1: You got to tell me how to get to the
- 41:11Speaker 1: tube station.
- 41:13Speaker 2: And I remember that even when I first came to L.A.,
- 41:15Speaker 2: I don't know whenever you first came to L.A., how
- 41:18Speaker 2: long ago it was, but, you know, there wasn't GPS
- 41:20Speaker 2: and stuff. GPS was like a fancy thing if they
- 41:23Speaker 2: had it at all. So I would like print out
- 41:25Speaker 2: directions on MapQuest. And I remember, you know, I would
- 41:29Speaker 2: call my little brother. My little brother is a few
- 41:32Speaker 2: years younger than me. He was still in South Carolina.
- 41:34Speaker 2: And I'd call him and be like, hey, man, I'm
- 41:36Speaker 2: on Cesar Chavez. How do I.
- 41:39Speaker 1: Get back to you?
- 41:41Speaker 2: Because we didn't have the stuff.
- 41:44Speaker 1: When you came to L.A., was it like that? Yeah, dude.
- 41:47Speaker 1: People had maps, drawings. You'd have a guy who had
- 41:50Speaker 1: directions tattooed on his arm of how to get home
- 41:52Speaker 1: if he was an alcoholic or whatever. Oh, my God. Like,
- 41:54Speaker 1: shit was definitely more primitive back then. People would, like,
- 41:58Speaker 1: just write on their dashboard how to get home. Like, yeah,
- 42:01Speaker 1: people had to remember. Remember when you just... Knew everybody's
- 42:05Speaker 1: phone number. Yeah, but also when somebody would give you directions, dude,
- 42:09Speaker 1: and if you missed one of them or something and
- 42:11Speaker 1: you were going to a party, you just drove around
- 42:12Speaker 1: the neighborhood for an hour and then went home. Like,
- 42:15Speaker 1: you would drive and roll your windows down and see
- 42:17Speaker 1: if you heard a party from the backyard.
- 42:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 42:20Speaker 1: We're basically like a bunch of, like, Magellans, you know?
- 42:26Speaker 2: And it's strange to think there's people that grew up
- 42:28Speaker 2: without knowing that at all. And it really does seem...
- 42:33Speaker 2: nuts that we were able to be okay without it.
- 42:36Speaker 1: You know? Well, it's like, if you imagine now, it's
- 42:38Speaker 1: like when you go to the airport and nobody's gonna
- 42:40Speaker 1: go through TSA, right? Because that's how it was.
- 42:42Speaker 2: Oh, I barely remember that. Like, that you could go
- 42:45Speaker 2: up to the gate and all that stuff. You know,
- 42:48Speaker 2: all of my travel, you know, I started doing comedy
- 42:52Speaker 2: by the time I was touring and stuff and traveling
- 42:55Speaker 2: all the time like we do.
- 42:56Speaker 1: Oh, so you were already big touring when you started
- 42:58Speaker 1: doing comedy or no?
- 42:59Speaker 2: No, no, no. I'm saying, like, I didn't start traveling
- 43:02Speaker 2: a bunch, you know, touring and doing all this stuff
- 43:04Speaker 2: until after TSA and all these kind of things. You know,
- 43:07Speaker 2: I barely remember traveling. Um, I wasn't on that many,
- 43:10Speaker 2: you know, I wasn't flying all the time. Like, you know,
- 43:12Speaker 2: I do now. So I barely remember that time where
- 43:15Speaker 2: like you could walk up to the gate, you know,
- 43:17Speaker 2: I might not even remember it actually. Yeah. I mean,
- 43:19Speaker 2: that all happened after nine 11. So it was after 2001,
- 43:21Speaker 2: you know?
- 43:22Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe a couple of flights I'd taken probably, but yeah, dude,
- 43:27Speaker 1: imagine if we went back to that now, would you think,
- 43:31Speaker 1: say right now you go to the airport, There's no TSA.
- 43:35Speaker 1: Would you trust everyone enough to be like, okay, we're
- 43:40Speaker 1: all going to fly home together, guys. Does everybody promise
- 43:42Speaker 1: they're not going to cause any problems?
- 43:44Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. It's wild times right now.
- 43:49Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 43:50Speaker 1: And they would ask you twice probably.
- 43:52Speaker 2: I was in the airport these past couple days, and
- 43:54Speaker 2: the government's been shut down. Those people, they're working for free.
- 43:57Speaker 2: I was like, hey, just so you know, guys, we're
- 44:00Speaker 2: working for free.
- 44:00Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, my God. It's unbelievable.
- 44:03Speaker 2: It's wild.
- 44:04Speaker 1: Yeah, the government's just turned into like a shitty vehicle.
- 44:07Speaker 1: It's like every now and then it just fucking shuts
- 44:08Speaker 1: down or whatever.
- 44:09Speaker 2: Dude, I mean, you got to understand. For me to
- 44:12Speaker 2: like be in London and read about all the stuff
- 44:14Speaker 2: happening here and then come here. Like I was in
- 44:16Speaker 2: Chicago yesterday and my friend's like, wow, time to be
- 44:19Speaker 2: in Chicago.
- 44:20Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean?
- 44:21Speaker 2: They're like, oh, the National Guard's there just grabbing Mexican people.
- 44:25Speaker 1: I was like, what? What?
- 44:27Speaker 2: When did that happen? this over here trying to tell
- 44:30Speaker 2: people about good fortune and they're like yeah they're grabbing
- 44:35Speaker 2: they're grabbing mexican people and the national guards there and
- 44:40Speaker 2: tsa oh yeah they're oh yeah what are you you
- 44:43Speaker 2: getting on a plane later to fly to national oh
- 44:44Speaker 2: yeah they the government shut down like most of the
- 44:47Speaker 2: air traffic people went home oh great thanks yeah i'm
- 44:51Speaker 2: it's okay i'm gonna I'm going to fly to Nashville
- 44:53Speaker 2: and then get on another plane back to New York
- 44:54Speaker 2: same day.
- 44:55Speaker 1: Cool weekend to be on all these planes. Yeah, it's
- 44:58Speaker 1: just the bad news bears of TSA right now.
- 45:01Speaker 2: You got all the people that are like down to
- 45:02Speaker 2: come and work in for free.
- 45:03Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. You have just like the militant guy. You
- 45:06Speaker 1: have the guy who's been waiting to get in the game.
- 45:08Speaker 1: Like no training, but just fucking waiting to get in
- 45:13Speaker 1: the game. I'm flying back today.
- 45:14Speaker 2: This is going to be a really dark last interview snippet.
- 45:18Speaker 1: And here's a clip where Aziz predicts. Oh my god, bro,
- 45:23Speaker 1: that's so hilarious that there's like backup, everybody's backup right now.
- 45:28Speaker 1: Like the park wardens are like, bro, welcome to the
- 45:31Speaker 1: fucking park, bro. It's like, it's just like the second string, dude.
- 45:36Speaker 1: He's like, dude, the owls are fucking monumental right now, bro.
- 45:41Speaker 2: We take all these people for granted.
- 45:43Speaker 1: That's so true, huh? Well, the raids and stuff like
- 45:47Speaker 1: that are crazy because they let so many people into
- 45:51Speaker 1: the country, right? Like without having a pattern of like,
- 45:55Speaker 1: this is an organized way to do something, right? Because
- 45:57Speaker 1: I think they need to organize it. It needs to
- 45:59Speaker 1: be organized, right? Because it's odd if people are here
- 46:02Speaker 1: that they live in fear that they're always going to
- 46:04Speaker 1: be like, they, you know, found out or something. And
- 46:07Speaker 1: then it's odd that people are, that there's nefarious people
- 46:11Speaker 1: here that don't want to be found out, you know?
- 46:13Speaker 1: So I think like they need some organization of it.
- 46:18Speaker 1: But yeah, the fact that it gets like where people
- 46:20Speaker 1: are being ripped out of places and then you don't know. Also,
- 46:24Speaker 1: some of these days, I really believe you don't know
- 46:27Speaker 1: what's real and what's not when you see it sometimes.
- 46:29Speaker 1: Like it could literally be a scene that was put together,
- 46:31Speaker 1: like some of like the Antifa stuff you would see
- 46:33Speaker 1: in the park during the pandemic.
- 46:35Speaker 2: I watched that movie. You see one battle after another.
- 46:37Speaker 1: It's good. It's amazing.
- 46:39Speaker 2: But it's it's it's crazy because, you know, he wrote
- 46:43Speaker 2: that movie a long time ago and. It's like I
- 46:47Speaker 2: was in Chicago and I was like, damn, this is
- 46:49Speaker 2: one battle after another. Because, you know, in the movie,
- 46:52Speaker 2: it's very much like a military state. And like the
- 46:57Speaker 2: military is just, you know, around going and doing this
- 46:59Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And it's kind of wild. The dude,
- 47:01Speaker 2: you know, he's supposedly been working on a movie for
- 47:04Speaker 2: like 15 years or something. Wow. And it's out now
- 47:07Speaker 2: when this stuff is, you know, so top of mind.
- 47:11Speaker 2: It's so in.
- 47:12Speaker 1: There, you know. Yeah, Eddington was really great. You see Eddington?
- 47:15Speaker 2: I didn't see Eddington, but I've heard it's kind of,
- 47:17Speaker 2: they're dealing with similar stuff.
- 47:19Speaker 1: I need to see that. Yeah, just a lot of
- 47:21Speaker 1: things happening at once. But I believe we're headed to
- 47:25Speaker 1: a surveillance state. You know, I believe that we're, that's
- 47:28Speaker 1: why they're trying.
- 47:30Speaker 2: That happened like a long time ago. I'm talking about
- 47:33Speaker 2: the drones, bro.
- 47:33Speaker 1: I'm talking about drones in the sky surveillance, like that vibe.
- 47:36Speaker 2: Oh my God.
- 47:37Speaker 1: Like that's where we're heading. Like dude, the movie I
- 47:39Speaker 1: want to see, this is how I think it ends.
- 47:41Speaker 1: Blacks versus drones, dude. Blacks.
- 47:44Speaker 2: What?
- 47:45Speaker 1: That's how it ends, bro. That is... People are wondering,
- 47:48Speaker 1: how does time, how does this all.
- 47:49Speaker 2: Where do Indian people fit in this? Are we running.
- 47:51Speaker 1: We're just running the door.
- 47:52Speaker 2: Okay, the right... Where do the Indians fit in this movie?
- 47:56Speaker 1: Okay, we need Kyrie Irving to move over to the...
- 47:58Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving? You're just like... Is he okay? Because he
- 48:01Speaker 1: plays basketball? No, I mean, I'm just thinking of a
- 48:04Speaker 1: cool black guy. But yeah, you're like, okay. But dude,
- 48:08Speaker 1: that's how it ends. I think everybody's like, what's going
- 48:11Speaker 1: on in society and these different groups and people back
- 48:15Speaker 1: and like, you know... genocide, all these stuff going on,
- 48:18Speaker 1: and you're like, how does it all, and I think
- 48:19Speaker 1: it's Blacks vs. Drones.
- 48:21Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 48:22Speaker 1: It's gotta be.
- 48:22Speaker 2: For me, as someone that used to live here and
- 48:25Speaker 2: now comes here occasionally for work, every time I come back,
- 48:28Speaker 2: it just feels wild. And it feels, I think it
- 48:31Speaker 2: feels wilder to me because I think for people that
- 48:34Speaker 2: are here, it's like, oh, they're slowly seeing it get crazy,
- 48:38Speaker 2: so they're not going from, like, one to a hundred,
- 48:40Speaker 2: like I do. Like, you know, my time in LA,
- 48:43Speaker 2: you know, I remember... You know, just seeing the amount
- 48:47Speaker 2: of tents and all that stuff, you know, coming, you know,
- 48:51Speaker 2: going to LA and in New York after COVID. Because
- 48:53Speaker 2: during COVID, I was in London the whole time with
- 48:55Speaker 2: my wife. So coming back to both those cities after COVID,
- 48:59Speaker 2: I was like, whoa.
- 49:01Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a Slipknot tailgate out there now, you know?
- 49:04Speaker 1: It's fucking crazy.
- 49:05Speaker 2: You know, my wife loves Slipknot.
- 49:07Speaker 1: You're lying.
- 49:08Speaker 2: My wife has a PhD in physics.
- 49:11Speaker 1: Or how? She's a genius.
- 49:13Speaker 2: And she loves, it's like she had this emo phase.
- 49:17Speaker 2: And every now and then I'll just bring up that
- 49:21Speaker 2: she loves... My two favorite facts about my wife. She's
- 49:23Speaker 2: gonna hate that I'm bringing this stuff up.
- 49:25Speaker 1: No, it's important.
- 49:26Speaker 2: One is that she loves Slipknot. And the other thing
- 49:31Speaker 2: is that she was Little Miss Denmark. That was a
- 49:35Speaker 2: little competition for little kids when she was like five,
- 49:37Speaker 2: six years old.
- 49:38Speaker 1: And she won... Two years in a row.
- 49:40Speaker 2: And then they stopped the contest.
- 49:43Speaker 1: No. Because she kept winning. God. They shut it down?
- 49:50Speaker 1: They shut it down. What, they don't like somebody really
- 49:52Speaker 1: stepping out of the norm there?
- 49:53Speaker 2: I think they were just like, we should be doing
- 49:56Speaker 2: these little pageants for these kids. And my wife, she
- 50:00Speaker 2: said like, they would have a, you know, like, oh,
- 50:02Speaker 2: you'd have the talent portion or whatever. And she would
- 50:05Speaker 2: be like, you know, doing her dance or whatever. And
- 50:08Speaker 2: they're like, all right, that's good. And she's like, no,
- 50:10Speaker 2: I'm not finished.
- 50:10Speaker 1: With my routine. I don't mean to be an asshole,
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- 52:10Speaker 1: I'm glad that you found love out there, man. Were
- 52:11Speaker 1: you good with the ladies growing up? What was your
- 52:13Speaker 1: energy like? You know, I grew up in.
- 52:30Speaker 2: It's weird because I grew up in South Carolina.
- 52:32Speaker 1: I remember every school like in the South kind of
- 52:35Speaker 1: had an Indian guy. Was it like that at your
- 52:37Speaker 1: school or was there a big Indian group? There's two
- 52:40Speaker 1: versions of this. There's like, oh, if you're in like
- 52:43Speaker 1: Atlanta or something, there's like the Indian crew and they
- 52:46Speaker 1: hang out. And then there's what I grew up with,
- 52:49Speaker 1: which is like just me. And when I was little,
- 52:53Speaker 1: I kind of forget this sometimes. In like first and
- 52:56Speaker 1: second grade, there was this Thai girl and her name
- 52:59Speaker 1: was Tisha.
- 53:00Speaker 2: Which doesn't make sense. That doesn't really sound like a
- 53:03Speaker 2: Thai name, but her name was Tisha, but they left.
- 53:06Speaker 1: Kind of a black tie.
- 53:07Speaker 2: It sounds like a black tie.
- 53:09Speaker 1: It sounds like a black tie affair. She was Thai.
- 53:13Speaker 2: And, but they, they left. And then it was just
- 53:15Speaker 2: me as Indian and it's in the eighties. And, you know,
- 53:19Speaker 2: it's so interesting to look back. I was thinking about
- 53:21Speaker 2: this and I had a conversation with my mom a
- 53:24Speaker 2: while ago that really like blew me away. So first off,
- 53:29Speaker 2: As soon as I tell people I grew up in
- 53:30Speaker 2: South Carolina, they're always like, oh, must have been so racist,
- 53:34Speaker 2: all this stuff. And, of course, there's moments where it
- 53:36Speaker 2: wasn't nice and whatever.
- 53:38Speaker 1: Like people calling you almost N-word or something like that?
- 53:40Speaker 2: Oh, N-word. Not almost.
- 53:42Speaker 1: Oh, really?
- 53:42Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 53:43Speaker 1: Well, those people are nearsighted or whatever, I feel like.
- 53:45Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 53:46Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 53:47Speaker 2: But there was also, I feel like, you know, there
- 53:50Speaker 2: was a time I was writing something and I asked
- 53:52Speaker 2: my parents to just tell me, like, I didn't want
- 53:55Speaker 2: to write. stuff about people being racist to people. I
- 53:59Speaker 2: wanted to write something positive. So I was like, tell
- 54:01Speaker 2: me things you remember that were positive, like experiences you had,
- 54:04Speaker 2: you know, being someone, because, you know, my parents are
- 54:06Speaker 2: there in the 80s.
- 54:08Speaker 1: Yeah, it was different for sure.
- 54:09Speaker 2: They don't, people there didn't even know what Indian people were.
- 54:13Speaker 2: They didn't see them in the culture. They didn't see nothing.
- 54:15Speaker 2: They didn't understand.
- 54:17Speaker 1: It looks like a black person that they didn't finish
- 54:19Speaker 1: the job on or whatever. Kind of, you know, no judgment.
- 54:25Speaker 2: Let's just make sure that quote is attributed to you.
- 54:29Speaker 1: Sure, dude. But I think it's like, because sometimes you
- 54:33Speaker 1: do see that Indian dude, you're like, is this a
- 54:35Speaker 1: black dude or an Indian dude?
- 54:37Speaker 2: But we're joking, but it is what people were saying.
- 54:40Speaker 2: They had never seen Indian people before.
- 54:43Speaker 1: Yes, I agree.
- 54:43Speaker 2: And they were not in the media or anything. And
- 54:46Speaker 2: so my experience, you know, I'm talking about the positive stuff.
- 54:49Speaker 2: First off, I skipped first and second grade. I did
- 54:52Speaker 2: first and second grade in one year. So people were like,
- 54:55Speaker 2: oh my God, this genius little brown boy. And so
- 54:59Speaker 2: I was like, and I was in a small school.
- 55:01Speaker 2: There was like 30 kids in my class. There's 8,000
- 55:03Speaker 2: people that live in my town.
- 55:06Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 55:07Speaker 2: But, you know, I was raised by my parents.
- 55:10Speaker 1: And first grade's fucking easy, dude.
- 55:12Speaker 2: First grade is easy. My dad would, like, show me.
- 55:14Speaker 1: The fact that it takes a whole year, you're like,
- 55:16Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing here?
- 55:17Speaker 2: My dad would, like, write little math problems and stuff
- 55:20Speaker 2: for me. So I was really advanced in, like, math
- 55:22Speaker 2: and stuff. It's so easy.
- 55:23Speaker 1: Go back and look at it.
- 55:24Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's, yeah, you should be able to teach
- 55:26Speaker 2: your kid all that stuff before.
- 55:27Speaker 1: They get to school. You can even eavesdrop. You can
- 55:28Speaker 1: tap into, like, classrooms and watch. It's like, this is
- 55:30Speaker 1: so fucking easy, dude. I wish you had a ring
- 55:32Speaker 1: camera in there and just be giving the kids the
- 55:34Speaker 1: answers and shit.
- 55:34Speaker 3: What?
- 55:35Speaker 1: It's yellow. If they had, like, one of those ring cameras,
- 55:38Speaker 1: you could talk in, like, a children's class or whatever.
- 55:40Speaker 2: I mean, back then, no ring camera. Just had my
- 55:43Speaker 2: dad teaching me stuff. So by the time I was, like,
- 55:45Speaker 2: halfway through first grade, they called my parents. They're like,
- 55:48Speaker 2: this is, you got to get him out of here.
- 55:50Speaker 2: He's got to go up to second grade. And so
- 55:52Speaker 2: I went to second grade, and that was, like, this big...
- 55:55Speaker 2: story in the school that some kid had skipped a grade.
- 55:58Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 55:58Speaker 1: It's like when LeBron left the Miami.
- 56:00Speaker 2: It was exactly like LeBron. I was like LeBron with
- 56:03Speaker 2: like very elementary math problems.
- 56:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 56:06Speaker 1: LeBron.
- 56:07Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. And, uh, but you know, when I was
- 56:12Speaker 2: thinking back about my childhood and time, my parents and, and,
- 56:15Speaker 2: you know, there was these two ladies that, uh, took
- 56:18Speaker 2: care of us. First off, I was talking to my
- 56:20Speaker 2: mom and she was talking about how, When she came
- 56:23Speaker 2: to South Carolina, my dad had been in America. He
- 56:25Speaker 2: was in New Jersey doing his residency. Then he went
- 56:28Speaker 2: back to India, married my mom, and then they came
- 56:31Speaker 2: to South Carolina where my dad moved. Because he applied
- 56:34Speaker 2: for these jobs all over the country. And in South Carolina,
- 56:37Speaker 2: they didn't have a lot of the doctor he was.
- 56:39Speaker 2: He was a gastroenterologist. So then they moved to South Carolina.
- 56:42Speaker 2: My mom comes to South Carolina. This woman's never left
- 56:45Speaker 2: India like this. She's in Bennettsville, South Carolina. Not like, oh,
- 56:50Speaker 2: you're in New York City. No, Bennettsville, South Carolina. And, uh,
- 56:55Speaker 2: my dad brings her home and then he has to
- 56:57Speaker 2: go to work. And I asked my mom, I was like,
- 56:59Speaker 2: you know, what was that day like? And she was like,
- 57:02Speaker 2: and I put this in my show. She said, oh,
- 57:04Speaker 2: I just sat on the couch and I cried. And
- 57:06Speaker 2: I was like, oh my God, it's so dark. It
- 57:08Speaker 2: was like so much braver than I could be, you know?
- 57:11Speaker 2: I mean, there's no FaceTime, none of that. You're really alone.
- 57:14Speaker 1: It was hard even- There's cable television.
- 57:16Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm talking about like to have a connection
- 57:17Speaker 2: with your family or anything, there's no way to communicate.
- 57:20Speaker 1: You're just praying and like lighting candles and putting those
- 57:22Speaker 1: oranges in that little thing.
- 57:23Speaker 2: There's no, even like making a long distance call was
- 57:27Speaker 2: a different thing back then.
- 57:27Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like $ 11.
- 57:29Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not the way it is now where
- 57:31Speaker 2: you could, you know, so she was really alone, but
- 57:33Speaker 2: she used to go and do laundry all the time
- 57:36Speaker 2: to just be around other people. And there was some
- 57:39Speaker 2: lady there- an older white lady that recognized that, you know,
- 57:44Speaker 2: saw her with me and became friendly with her. And
- 57:52Speaker 2: they called her Grandma. I don't know the woman's real name, actually.
- 57:55Speaker 2: And I called her Grandma. And she would take care
- 57:59Speaker 2: of me and, like, kind of looked out for our family.
- 58:03Speaker 2: And she eventually, I think she moved or something or whatever,
- 58:07Speaker 2: but she couldn't take care of us anymore. And this
- 58:11Speaker 2: woman who we called Nana, that's what her grandkids called her,
- 58:16Speaker 2: she started taking care of us. And then there was
- 58:18Speaker 2: this woman named Miss Beulah who would take care of
- 58:21Speaker 2: us after school.
- 58:22Speaker 1: She had some tits on her, I bet. Yeah. Ms. Beulah,
- 58:26Speaker 1: rest in peace. I'm not going to comment on that.
- 58:28Speaker 1: I didn't know that. But Ms.
- 58:32Speaker 2: Beulah, as you might guess from the name Beulah, black
- 58:35Speaker 2: woman from the South and would cook the meanest Southern
- 58:38Speaker 2: food for us. So I would eat Indian food and
- 58:40Speaker 2: Southern food. And so Nana and Ms. Beulah were part
- 58:44Speaker 2: of my life. And, you know, I had a sister
- 58:50Speaker 2: that passed away. And she was, uh, a few years
- 58:54Speaker 2: younger than me and she had a very rare, she
- 58:56Speaker 2: had a, um, something called hurler syndrome. It's a super rare, um,
- 59:01Speaker 2: liver disease.
- 59:03Speaker 1: Sorry.
- 59:03Speaker 2: Uh, it's obviously a little heavy for me, but, um, So,
- 59:14Speaker 2: she passed away.
- 59:16Speaker 1: What's her name? Her name is Nafis. Nafis. That's a
- 59:18Speaker 1: pretty name, huh?
- 59:19Speaker 2: Yeah. And she passed away. And Nana.
- 59:28Speaker 2: Nana passed away a few years ago when I was
- 59:29Speaker 2: in college. It was a while ago now. And, you know,
- 59:35Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to... Miss Buell, I got
- 59:37Speaker 2: to say a proper goodbye to. I went and saw
- 59:39Speaker 2: her when she was staying in a retirement home. Nana,
- 59:40Speaker 2: I didn't have that same moment. I was in college,
- 59:43Speaker 2: and it wasn't the same kind of thing where I
- 59:45Speaker 2: had that opportunity to say bye. But my mom had
- 59:50Speaker 2: told me that she went to go see... visit my
- 59:56Speaker 2: sister at the cemetery. And, you know, my sister's buried
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: in South Carolina, in Bennettsville. And, you know, that is
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: a tricky thing because my family's from a Muslim background
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: and they wanted to do, they were asked in the cemetery,
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: can we do the things we do for our culture?
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: And the cemetery was like, yeah, of course, whatever you
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: need to do, which is just so cool to me
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: that they were open to that and the whole community
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: was you know, we're visiting our family and everything. And
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: I remember even like a priest came by to just,
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: you know, even though we were a different religion, he
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: came and like wanted to talk to us and stuff.
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: And everyone was just so kind about it. And then
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: my mom told me that she went to go see
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: my sister at the cemetery. And she said, oh, and
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: we saw Nana too. I was like, what do you mean?
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: She's like, well, Nana's buried right next to her. And
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: I just, I like melted as a human because I
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: did not know that. And to me, like, I heard
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: that and I was like, wow, like, you know, I
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: was saying all this stuff about crazy this country is
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: and how crazy it feels right now. But that story,
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: that doesn't happen anywhere else in the world, man. Like
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: those two people, my sister and this.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: Woman, They befriended you guys. Yeah.
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: Have that close a bond where she's like, I want
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: to be buried next to her. I mean, it was,
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: it was, I did not know that. And, and, and,
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: you know, I, I, I heard that and I was like, I, I,
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: I don't know why it popped in my head, but
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: I'm so glad it did. And then I got to
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: share that with you because I heard that story and
- 1:01:46Speaker 2: I was like, man, people need to hear that story.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: Cause it's not the story people.
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: Want to tell. It's not the story that the media
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: wants to tell. It's not a story that.
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: It's a story that doesn't really get the clicks.
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: But it's a story that's probably... It's the truth that
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: most people that the human part of us is what
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: makes us special. And that's the part that we should
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: all try and lean into the most is that we're
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: this special thing that can care about each other, you know?
- 1:02:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that These people saw my parents
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: and tried to forge this bond with them. And, I mean,
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: I hope we're still a place where that kind of
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: stuff can happen.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: I think it happens a lot. I think you're just right.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: I think it's not the news, you know. But I
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: think it is more common probably than we think. Thanks
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: for sharing that, dude. It is an important story. That's
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: a great story.
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: Oof.
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: Sorry. Um, did your sister have it the whole time
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: when she was growing up, when she was from birth?
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, it was one of these things where,
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: you know, the life expectancy with that, uh, hurlers is not, um,
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: it's not very long. She passed when she was like six,
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: eight years old.
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: Aww.
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: And was she, um.
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: And it's one of these things, I don't really talk
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: about it very much. And a lot of people even
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: that know me don't know I had a sister because
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: people would ask me, like, oh, do you have any siblings?
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, yeah, I got a little brother.
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: And I had a sister that passed away. And I
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: would say it like that. And then people would go, ah! Like,
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: it's a very, like, heavy thing to hear all of
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: a sudden. And so I was like, oh, I don't
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: want to make people uncomfortable. So I'll just say, oh,
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: I have a little brother. And then they'll be like,
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: what's you guys' gap? Oh, he's seven years younger.
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: Wow, that's a big gap.
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to not go down this thing because
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: I don't want to bum everybody out because we're all
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: just hanging out at Chick-fil-A right now.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: Sitting there tapping her foot like, what are we doing here? No, dude,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: my sister was born with a rare liver disease and
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: she had to get a liver transplant when we were kids. Oh, wow.
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: So we spent most of our childhood like, you know,
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: she was always this thing that we couldn't touch because
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: she always had to have these surgeries and stuff. So
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: I think it just reminds me like a lot of that.
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: I think some of that stuff, you know, I think
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: it's just interesting when you grow up with a sibling
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: that's sick, because I think it, I never even thought
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: about it till you were saying some of this. It
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: just like, I don't know. You have to adjust yourself.
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: I think to try and maybe like my sister got
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: most of the care, right. But she needed most of it.
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: So it was weird. So there were times where I'd
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: be like, I don't, you know, later on in life,
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, I didn't get this care, but
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: it was like, I didn't need it the most, you know?
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: What was you guys' age difference?
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: Um, two years. And she's still alive. She ended up
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: getting a liver transplant. She got one of the first
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: liver transplants in, um, we moved to Arizona. She got
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: it out there. And, but, um, that's incredible. But it
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: was just this whole time when she was a kid,
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: she was always being flown off to these places and
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: they sounded magical, like Rochester, Minnesota, just different places where
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: there's these big hospitals. And she'd come back like this, like,
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: almost like this Build-A-Bear that somebody had done a shitty
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: job with. You know what I'm saying? Like just all
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: these scars and stuff. But it was just, she was
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: always just, it was weird because you like couldn't hold it.
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: It was just like, it was interesting. Did you have
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: any experience like that with your sister or what was
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: it like?
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: There wasn't that kind of, there wasn't like all these
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: things to try because hurlers is pretty, they don't really
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: have a thing. There's like, oh, you can maybe do
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: a bone marrow transplant, but it's not really a thing
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: they've made much progress on. So there was never anything
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: like that.
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: And I don't know.
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: It's interesting talking about this because you think about it's
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: like when you're a kid. It's so hard to understand
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: what's happening. You have no frame of reference. And, you know,
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: when I look back on that stuff as an adult,
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: I can't imagine how hard it was for my parents, like,
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: you know, to have a child that has something like
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: that and then to lose a child. It's, you know,
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: I can't. It's strange to, like, step outside of yourself.
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: And honestly, this is, like, some of the most I've
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: talked about it with anybody. Yeah.
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: And I don't mean to pry about it. It's just.
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: And it's also a thing in the, no, not at all.
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: I don't think prying at all. And I think it's
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: really interesting that, you know, you had something, your sister
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: had something as well.
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: And, but, you know, there's a thing with like.
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: Indian families and, you know, maybe it's a lot of
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: families in that time. It's like, you don't talk about stuff.
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: Oh, really? Is that like an Indian thing kind of?
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: I think there's something of like, oh, you're not as
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: open about your feelings and stuff. And you're just a
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: little bit more closed off.
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah.
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: With Asian families, Indian families, I think with emotional stuff
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: like that, you know.
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: But you guys do reincarnation. So you can, you're probably
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: just like, oh, we can have the feelings later. We
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: can have this.
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: That's, that's in Hinduism. That's a different thing.
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: Oh, really? Fuck. Yeah. So you guys are one time only?
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: Islam, it's the same as Christianity. It's, you know, in
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: terms of that stuff. As far as I know, I'm
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: not a super religious guy, but yes, the reincarnation is
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: just in Hindu culture.
- 1:07:09Speaker 3: Dang.
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: So you guys are one and done, huh? I mean,
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: so is a lot of people. Okay. I'm just saying. Yeah.
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: But yeah.
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: Man, this got really– we really went for a heavy
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: turn after micro donkeys.
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: It's okay. This is– you're tearing up over here. I'm
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: tearing up.
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: But– It's good to talk about this stuff and, you know,
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: it's so strange to think back about, you know, those
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: times and everything my family went through, especially my parents,
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: you know.
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: I never think about that. I always think about things.
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: This is one place that I kind of like struggle with,
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: I think. A lot of times I'll think about certain
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: periods and things that happened and I'll only think about
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: it like as to how it affected me. And it's like...
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: man to get into that place of where you're even
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: thinking like well how did this affect my parents like
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: I was eating dinner with some friends yesterday and in
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: the background she has like these four kids and they're
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: beautiful kids they have the cutest kids um and they're
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: all going haywire and I it was the first time
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: I thought holy shit my mom had four kids and
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: nobody to fucking help like there was.
- 1:08:19Speaker 3: And it was can you imagine what that would be
- 1:08:21Speaker 3: like these days that sounds impossible impossible And our parents
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: were able to do that kind of stuff. But it
- 1:08:27Speaker 3: was the first time that I had like even had
- 1:08:28Speaker 3: a perspective moment like that that was that clear, you know?
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: So for you to have that, I think is pretty
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: cool that you think like, oh, what my parents must
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: have went through, you know? Because it's like, yeah, it's
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: like for us, it's a sibling. But for them, it's like,
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: you know, it's probably something that feels far greater, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Anyway,
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: I didn't mean to delve into that, man.
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: No, no, I'm glad we did. And I think it's
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: a really interesting thing to talk about. And for me,
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: you know.
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: I bet you'd be so proud of you.
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: You know what I think about sometimes is there is,
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: do you know the comic strip? Comic strip live in
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: New York?
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah. You know that club? Yep.
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: That was the first club I ever got passed at.
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: And there was a guy, his name was Lucian Hold.
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: And he was the guy that would pass you. You know,
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: you've heard of like Esty at the Cellar. He was
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: like Esty at the Cellar.
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: He was the guy. Yeah, there's always that person.
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: There's always a person that was a gatekeeper. And I
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: went in there when I was like 18. And what
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: was cool about the comic strip was they had a
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: thing where anybody could audition. Like, you just lined up,
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: and then you could audition.
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: Which is kind of crazy.
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: Which is like, because, you know, I don't know if
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: this was your experience when you were starting out, but
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: it's like, you just wanted a shot, right?
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: You just wanted a shot. And the idea that you
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: could be a regular at the comedy, I remember I
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: used to go to the comedy cellar, and I'd just
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: be like, oh, my God, could you imagine just getting
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: spots here?
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: Yes.
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: Could you imagine just how amazing it would be to
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: get spots? That was my dream. you're so right and
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: so I went to the comic comic strip they had
- 1:10:04Speaker 2: this you know open call like you just had to
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: wait in line and then you'd pick from a I
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: believe what would do is you'd pick from a lottery
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: and it would give you a date a date yeah
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: like they would do on Mondays they'd have a certain
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: number of people that were from this audition that's cool
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: so I picked a date and then I showed up
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: and you went through this one woman and if she
- 1:10:27Speaker 2: said okay you can see Lucian you'd audition for Lucian
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: And so I got through it, and then I auditioned
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: for Lucian, and you know, you wait around, you wait around,
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: all these kind of things. Even like SNL, you hear
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: these stories, and people are like, yeah, you just wait around,
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: they just make you wait around. And then he spoke
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: to me at the end, and he was like, he
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: was like, you could start working.
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: At the club. And I was like, ah!
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: And I was terrible, I was not good. But I
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: was like very young, and I was very comfortable on stage.
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: And he told me, he was like, you know, when
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: people your age come in here, he was like, you're
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: still at NYU, right?
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, yeah.
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: He said, you know, Adam Sandler was at NYU when
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: I passed him. And so was Sarah Silverman. And I
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: was like, oh, wow. I mean, I remember I said, oh, wow,
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: it'd be amazing if I had a career like that.
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: He's like, I don't know if that's in the cards
- 1:11:15Speaker 2: for you, but you could. He was like the most
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: straight shooting guy. I mean, there's very few people that
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: are honest like that that I've met in my 20-something years.
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: I know. He was the guy that was like that.
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: And he's like, I don't know if that's not an
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: impression of him. But he's like, I don't know if
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: that's something that's in the cards for you. But you
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: could start working in the club and I would do
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: you would do like late night, which is like they'd
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: have the show and then you could sign up to
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: go on. At the end of the show. So there'd
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: be like nobody there. I do that all the time.
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: For sure. But getting up on stage, even just that
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: walking up. When you're coming up, if there's six people there,
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: it feels like a million people.
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: You're so excited.
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: The feeling that is the energy that the fear and
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: that energy and that nervous, it feels like a million.
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: And sometimes, I mean, and I'll say this and you're
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: going to light up because you'll know this feeling. sometimes
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: someone on the bill that was supposed to be on
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: at like nine o'clock wouldn't show up and they'd pull
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: someone from late night. And so you'd get to go on.
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: When people were still there. Still there, yes.
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: And I remember one time.
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna show these bitches, that's what I would say.
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: I had kind of an aggressive nature.
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: But go on. Yeah, but it was like this kind
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: of like, oh, I'm gonna get to prove myself a
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: little bit. But one time I remember Chris Rock dropped
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: in and I went on after him. And like everybody,
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, Chris Rock just went on. They just
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: all started leaving. And I told Chris the story the
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: other day. I was like, I forgot this.
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: I forgot.
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: I mean, and now he's my fucking friend. It's the
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: craziest thing in the world to me. But Lucian, he
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: had a disease called a scoloderma. I don't know why
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: I'm saying the disease he had. But anyway, he passed away.
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: Is that ashy skin? No, sorry.
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: It's like a skin problem. Yeah, yeah. I don't know
- 1:13:04Speaker 2: what it is exactly.
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: Skelederman. This dude stopped looking up stuff because it's gotten
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: too dark.
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: The stuff we're talking about. He's like, I'm not going
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: to pull up this stuff on Wikipedia.
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: It's too dark.
- 1:13:15Speaker 2: He's like, oh. I don't think it's appropriate. I'm just
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: going to let this be. I'll wait until they start
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: talking about mini cows again. I can pull up those
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: cute pictures.
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: He has a whole barrel full.
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: Maybe I do bring it up because if someone wants
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: to donate to his fund or whatever. Lucian had this
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: disease and we knew he was passing away and I
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: went and visited him. It was like that movie Being Mortal.
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: I knew he was passing away. I knew this was probably...
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: Our last conversation. And he, and dude, this dude passed away.
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: You know, Chris spoke at his funeral. I think Seinfeld
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: may have said something.
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: I can't remember.
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: I remember I went to the funeral and I was
- 1:13:56Speaker 2: like a little kid. I remember I like went and
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: like was crying in the bathroom and stuff. Because this
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: dude was the first dude ever to genuinely believe that
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: I could do something in our world. The first person
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: to say, hey, I'm going to give you, it was
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: like fucking 10 bucks or whatever. But he was like,
- 1:14:11Speaker 2: I believe you. In the idea of paying you to
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: tell jokes. That's cool. And we had a conversation, and
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: I remember he said something to me, and he talked
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: about some comic that he used to know that went
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: to L.A., and not like a super successful guy, but
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: a guy that did okay. And he was like, you know,
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: he said this guy told him that he was in L.A.,
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: and he said that's Lucien. Yes, that's Lucien Holt.
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:14:41Speaker 2: But all I mean, he's he's like, you know, if
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: you talk to guys like.
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: They love him.
- 1:14:46Speaker 2: Yeah. And they remember him from back in the day.
- 1:14:48Speaker 2: Like he was a character. He's the guy that passed,
- 1:14:51Speaker 2: you know, Eddie Murphy. And like the famous story of
- 1:14:54Speaker 2: Chris Rock is like Eddie Murphy was at the club.
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: And he asked Lucian, do you have any do you
- 1:15:00Speaker 2: have any black comics? And he said, yeah, I got one.
- 1:15:05Speaker 2: I'll put him up if you'll watch him. And it
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: was Chris Rock. And then Eddie Murphy watched them and
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: then put them in Beverly Hills Cop 2.
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: But anyway.
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: Dude, that's so great though. It's a huge deal. It's
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: a huge amount of validation because it's– I can't really explain.
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: It's still like when I think of all the things
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: I've done in my career, it's still– I was excited
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: about that. I mean, dude, it was like– I think
- 1:15:30Speaker 2: it was like 10 years ago I did Madison Square Garden.
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: I– it was a similar feeling to get passed.
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: Yeah. You know?
- 1:15:39Speaker 2: And, but anyway, he told me this story about some
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: guy in LA and he said, that guy told him like,
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: you know, there's all these idiots in LA and if
- 1:15:49Speaker 2: they're able to do it, I can do it too.
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: Something to that extent. Like, and it was a more,
- 1:15:54Speaker 2: said it more eloquent than that. I'm not doing it justice,
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: but he basically said to me, you're going to be okay.
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: And he left me with that. And it was really cool.
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: Lucian did? Yeah.
- 1:16:04Speaker 2: He said, you're going to be okay. Like you're a
- 1:16:06Speaker 2: smart guy and you're going to be okay. And, um,
- 1:16:09Speaker 2: I mean, I, I've been fortunate enough and I think I'm,
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: I mean, that was when I was a little kid,
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: you know, I hadn't done anything really. And, and, you know, I,
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: I feel like I've been fortunate enough in my career to,
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: to be, uh, more than okay. Uh, and done a
- 1:16:26Speaker 2: lot of great things I never would have thought possible
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: when I was, you know, interacting with Lucian and, um,
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: you know, one of my, Not regrets or, I don't know,
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: just one of my, oh man, kind of feelings is
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: that like, oh, this guy that was the first guy
- 1:16:44Speaker 2: to believe in me.
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: To see me, yeah.
- 1:16:47Speaker 2: Didn't get to see that how far I really went,
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: you know? And weird, sorry, I feel like I'm like
- 1:16:52Speaker 2: taking up too much of your time.
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: No, this is good. Well, you're a great storyteller, I'm realizing.
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: That's honestly one thing I've realized sitting here. And I
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: can see why you're able to do what you do
- 1:17:01Speaker 1: even more, like writing your movies and knowing like, yeah,
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: saying how streamlined it is. I'm enjoying it. So go on. Sorry.
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: You know, I was in a cab one time in
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: London and I was like, it's weird because once you
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: become successful, it's weird when you drop into a comedy club,
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: everyone goes nuts and everything's a little sweeter because they're
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: excited because you're famous. And I was in a cab
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: with my wife in London and I, and Someone was like,
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: tell us about this thing or whatever. And I talked
- 1:17:36Speaker 2: about this whole story of something that happened to us.
- 1:17:38Speaker 2: And when I left, the cab driver said, hey, you're
- 1:17:42Speaker 2: a really good storyteller. And I was like, holy shit.
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: That was like winning an Emmy for me. Because I
- 1:17:48Speaker 2: was like, that guy has no clue who I am.
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: And he went out of his way to tell me that.
- 1:17:54Speaker 2: That made me feel really good.
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: Was he an Indian guy? No. Why would he be Indian, Theo?
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: racism he was like a black guy that was fully
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: finished okay okay okay he was a fully.
- 1:18:06Speaker 2: Finished black guy he was a black guy.
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: Um i love i mean i love race stuff it's
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: fun to joke about and think about because it's so
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: different and it's fun you know but that's uh you're
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: right man sorry But, yeah, somebody telling you you're a
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: great storyteller, it's so funny. It's sometimes it's that one
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: word or one thing. It's like.
- 1:18:24Speaker 2: And you get it from someone that doesn't know anything.
- 1:18:27Speaker 2: Because sometimes you feel like, oh, man, like, not like, oh, people...
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: You feel like, I don't know how much of this
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: is sweetened up because of whatever. And it's very frustrating
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: because I don't think anyone that's successful like that wants
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: any of that. But, you know... you get a little
- 1:18:42Speaker 2: bit of that when you drop in and you're working
- 1:18:43Speaker 2: on material and, you know, when you're on stage for
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: a while, eventually people care.
- 1:18:47Speaker 1: You don't even know if it's that good. That's the
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: worst part. You're like, is this even good? You're just
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: getting unfair reactions. But then hopefully if you're self-aware enough...
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: And that judge inside of you, that little party that's
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: always hated you is still lurking around.
- 1:18:59Speaker 2: You got to have that guy in there.
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: That guy needs to be there.
- 1:19:01Speaker 2: That guy needs to be there. And if he's there,
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: you know, because, you know, all your people, oh, man,
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: it's your best hour. It's like it's getting there.
- 1:19:08Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:19:09Speaker 2: You got to have that little guy and you got
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: to have that little guy. And look, that's that's, you know.
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: whether it's a movie or stand-up show, like, you know,
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: screening a movie, it's like, people don't lie eventually. Like,
- 1:19:19Speaker 2: they'll be sweet for a little bit, but eventually they
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: are like, all right, come on. You know, that drops
- 1:19:25Speaker 2: after a few minutes.
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you start smoking your own bullshit, too,
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: that's when it can get really spooky.
- 1:19:30Speaker 2: Oh, that's when you got to make sure you, you know,
- 1:19:34Speaker 2: I've been around people enough to be like, oh, when
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: you start having a bunch of people around you that
- 1:19:38Speaker 2: tell you you're awesome, that's when everything starts falling apart, buddy.
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: Have you ever had ego problems? You've ever had anything
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: like that? Like, are you ever able to check your
- 1:19:45Speaker 1: own ego kind of type of things? Cause ego is
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: so dangerous cause it can kind of grow in the distance.
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: It's almost like something that you don't see growing. It's
- 1:19:52Speaker 1: almost like you're standing there with your shadow and then
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: your shadow gets bigger without you noticing it, you know?
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: You know, I think, I think the way I, I
- 1:20:02Speaker 2: hopefully have been able to avoid that kind of problem is, is, um,
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: I'm not around all the time.
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: I kind of go away in a hole and work
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: on stuff. This is like the most shit I've done.
- 1:20:14Speaker 2: I haven't, I haven't been on your podcast. I haven't
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: been on anybody's podcast. I haven't done anything. I've just
- 1:20:18Speaker 2: been working and, you know, being back out in, in,
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: in kind of wild. Yeah. In the kind of press world,
- 1:20:26Speaker 2: it's been kind of a little overwhelming for me. I
- 1:20:30Speaker 2: get very overwhelmed whenever I finished like season one and
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: two of my show, like whenever it came on Netflix, like,
- 1:20:36Speaker 2: I left the country because I was just a little bit,
- 1:20:39Speaker 2: it was just too much for me. Like I went to,
- 1:20:41Speaker 2: I went to Japan for a couple of months because like.
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: I'd seen a piece of work. Really? For months?
- 1:20:45Speaker 2: Did you see Kanye or not?
- 1:20:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:20:47Speaker 2: He wasn't there at the time, but you know, I, I,
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: I wanted to be somewhere where people didn't really know
- 1:20:51Speaker 2: who I was. It was, it felt a bit, it
- 1:20:53Speaker 2: can be a little overwhelming. Like that, that part of
- 1:20:56Speaker 2: our jobs of, of red carpets and interviews. No, it's
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah.
- 1:21:00Speaker 1: I never done a lot of that stuff. So I,
- 1:21:02Speaker 1: that part I don't know about, but I can imagine.
- 1:21:04Speaker 2: But you know, it, I'm here and I've been doing
- 1:21:07Speaker 2: all this stuff. I love doing this cause we're just
- 1:21:09Speaker 2: having a great conversation. Um, not everything is this fun. Um, but,
- 1:21:14Speaker 2: you know, I do it because I, I, I feel
- 1:21:17Speaker 2: like it's a part of the job and I got
- 1:21:18Speaker 2: to support the work and the studio that paid for
- 1:21:20Speaker 2: the movie and everything. So I do it, but it's,
- 1:21:22Speaker 2: it's not my, I, I like the work. I mean,
- 1:21:25Speaker 2: all I'm looking forward to is getting back on, uh,
- 1:21:29Speaker 2: getting back to work, like doing, like being on set
- 1:21:31Speaker 2: with some people and, and, and being like, Hey, do this. Or,
- 1:21:33Speaker 2: you know, I'm, I'm going back on the road for
- 1:21:35Speaker 2: a little bit, like being on the road like that,
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: that is a billion times more fun. Um, then some
- 1:21:42Speaker 2: of the stuff you have to do excluding like this and,
- 1:21:44Speaker 2: I actually like that podcasts are a thing now because
- 1:21:47Speaker 2: I did Amy Poehler's podcast. That was so fun.
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: She's so great. She's great.
- 1:21:51Speaker 2: I hadn't seen her in a while and I was like,
- 1:21:52Speaker 2: oh man, I'm just excited to like be with you
- 1:21:54Speaker 2: for an hour and change because I hadn't seen you
- 1:21:56Speaker 2: in so long.
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, thanks for making me think about We had
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: a guy named Tommy at the comedy store, and he
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: was like the guy, and he was like this character.
- 1:22:05Speaker 2: I've heard his name, yeah, yeah.
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: And people impersonated him all the time. And he really was.
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: He had this long hair, and he looked like a
- 1:22:12Speaker 1: rock and roll guy. And I believe he was. I
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: think he also played in a band. And he made
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: jellies and jams, and he would bring those. He was
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: this very eccentric type of guy.
- 1:22:22Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: But he took care of Mitzi Shore. but he would
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: be the guy and he'd sit there and he'd open
- 1:22:27Speaker 1: little curtains of the little will call booth had little
- 1:22:30Speaker 1: curtains on it. And he'd be like, you're doing good.
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: But I happened to, I went to the comedy store
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: one time. I was trying to find out how do
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: they do signups? I remember. And I was buying a
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: beer on the porch and he thought I was somebody else.
- 1:22:41Speaker 1: He's like, haven't seen you around here in a while.
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: You know, we miss you coming around. And, uh, I
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I, And he goes, why don't you
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: come in? Come back in on Sunday, man. I'm going to,
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: I want to, I want to see you back up there.
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: And he fucking had me confused. Whoa.
- 1:22:58Speaker 2: Did you do the other spot? Did you put your
- 1:23:01Speaker 2: name down? No, I just, I, I, I didn't even
- 1:23:05Speaker 2: think about that. And I just kept fucking doing this.
- 1:23:08Speaker 2: And how'd your set go?
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: And it went good enough where I got to keep going,
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: but it was, But before that, for sure, I went
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: and signed up and waited outside. And there's like a
- 1:23:16Speaker 1: guy that's practicing juggling who can't even talk. And he's
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: like telling his jokes through like bowling pins and shit.
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: It's like there's all types of stuff. There's somebody training
- 1:23:24Speaker 1: a bird or whatever. And he's like barely trained it.
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: And he's like trying to train it really fast in
- 1:23:28Speaker 1: the parking lot. It's like you cannot train a bird
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: really fast. But this is the same thing I was
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: talking about earlier.
- 1:23:33Speaker 2: It's so interesting to me that, you know, comedy– Comedians
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: were all having, you know, this is a crazy moment
- 1:23:40Speaker 2: to be a comedian and people are having such overwhelming
- 1:23:43Speaker 2: amounts of success. But at the end of the day,
- 1:23:45Speaker 2: like all of us started just wanting a room full
- 1:23:48Speaker 2: of people, just a crowd and to be able to perform.
- 1:23:52Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: Well, you know, one thing that was great about Good Fortune, dude,
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: and I haven't finished it, but I really I like
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: it and I'm excited to see the end of it.
- 1:24:01Speaker 2: It's not that long a movie, by the way.
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: But I didn't get home last night until probably 1130.
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying for people that are worried.
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. No, it's an hour and a half heavy.
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: But it's good, dude. There started to be some really
- 1:24:15Speaker 1: good plot changes for me that I really dug, like
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: right around the spot where I'm at, where you think
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: it's going to go one way, and now it starts
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: to change up. And then I don't want to give
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: too much of it away. But one thing that was
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: really amazing about it, and my friend was watching it
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: with me, was, was that you felt of how tough
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: it is that first year or two in LA. You
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: felt of like when your character's sleeping in his car, right?
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: Or like when there's door dash delivery and just like
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: the jobs you get when you first get to a
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: big city to try to survive. The parking tickets and
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: how you lose your car. You just come out of
- 1:24:51Speaker 1: a place. You barely had enough money to go get
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: some avocados. It was the one thing you were treating
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: yourself to this week. It was like two avocados. I'm
- 1:24:59Speaker 1: gonna cut those bitches up. and I'm gonna eat those bitches, right?
- 1:25:02Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna go to sleep, right? You were
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: so excited and you come out and your fucking car
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: has been towed because you didn't pay tickets. All that shit, dude.
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: My friend and I slept in the McDonald's ball pit.
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: We would jump the fence and sleep in that fucking
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: ball pit because it was like kind of some more
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: space to lay out, right? Like if you got under
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: the balls. There's hair in there, there's coins under there,
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: but it is, there's a little bit more room for
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: your body than like, because we tried to sleep in
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: his car one night and it was just a nightmare.
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: But going through all of that, yeah. And there is,
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: the hair goes to the bottom, which I don't understand
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: how that works. That's science. But, and yeah, they should
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: do a, they should see what's in the bottom of
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: a lot of these. It's not good. But yeah, we
- 1:25:43Speaker 1: would jump over the fence and sleep in one that,
- 1:25:45Speaker 1: you know, that closed at 10. We'd get in and
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: just get five hours of sleep or something, you know?
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: Oh my God, I'm so sorry.
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: But I could relate. No, it was awesome. It was
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: fucking great stories. One night we're in there, dude. We're
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: talking shit to each other, laughing and stuff. And a
- 1:25:58Speaker 1: fucking Asian guy's on the slide. He's asleep.
- 1:26:02Speaker 2: He's on the slide. He pipes up. He's very, very exposed.
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: No, like in one of those high slides where there
- 1:26:09Speaker 1: was room where you could kind of get, you know,
- 1:26:11Speaker 1: it was encompassed. He was in the best spot.
- 1:26:14Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
- 1:26:14Speaker 1: Yes, he was in one of the tubes. Oh, damn.
- 1:26:17Speaker 2: That's better than the ball pit. That's a pro move.
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: Yeah, and he even came up to the window. It
- 1:26:21Speaker 1: was like a little hamster showing up. Pretty fucking dope. But, dude,
- 1:26:25Speaker 1: that was like. But you forget about all the pieces
- 1:26:28Speaker 1: of the things and the moments that were so big.
- 1:26:33Speaker 1: And that was in L.A.? And that was in L.A.
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: Which McDonald's in L.A.? It's on Wilshire Boulevard. Does that
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: Asian guy have a podcast now, too?
- 1:26:42Speaker 2: I hope he does.
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: I think it's Ronnie Chang.
- 1:26:46Speaker 2: You know, I was doing one of those shows at
- 1:26:50Speaker 2: the Comedy Cellar where people don't know who's going to
- 1:26:51Speaker 2: show up. Uh-huh. It was like, surprise headliner! And it's
- 1:26:54Speaker 2: just me working on stuff. And I walk by the line,
- 1:26:58Speaker 2: and some lady goes, I hope it's not Ronnie Chang.
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: Oh, really?
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: Yeah, but then I found out that it's because she'd
- 1:27:06Speaker 2: been to another one of these and it was Ronnie Chang. Oh, okay.
- 1:27:10Speaker 2: And we talked about it in the show, but it
- 1:27:12Speaker 2: wasn't because she doesn't like, all love to Ronnie Chang.
- 1:27:14Speaker 2: I love Ronnie Chang.
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: Dude, I just got to see him last week. I
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: bumped into him. I went into the comedy cellar.
- 1:27:20Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah.
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: Just stopped in. He was in there. It was awesome, dude.
- 1:27:23Speaker 2: Just to get to see him.
- 1:27:23Speaker 1: He's great. He is great. You got some great specials, too,
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: if you haven't seen him. I get to get him
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: to come in and talk sometime.
- 1:27:29Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's great. But I just thought it was
- 1:27:31Speaker 2: funny to walk by and hear that.
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: That's so funny, dude.
- 1:27:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: But yeah, that's one thing I loved about Good Fortune.
- 1:27:38Speaker 1: You and Seth Rogen are just, you guys are buddies,
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: I guess it is. Yeah, and we spoke about this movie. And,
- 1:27:44Speaker 1: you know, if anyone listening is going to see the movie, please,
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: you know, see it in a theater with the crowd.
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: Because we were talking about these movies like. I think
- 1:27:52Speaker 1: it's worth it for sure. It definitely felt like a
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: real movie to me. It didn't feel like some forced shit,
- 1:27:56Speaker 1: you know. I know like they're like. Sometimes you get
- 1:27:59Speaker 1: these movies and it's like shit feels forced or too
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: fake or like it's not real. I didn't feel any
- 1:28:06Speaker 1: of that. I didn't feel any pandering for some social
- 1:28:09Speaker 1: causes or any shit like that.
- 1:28:10Speaker 2: No, it's just trying to be very real and very funny.
- 1:28:13Speaker 2: It's good, dude.
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: I'm fucking excited about finishing it. Because your character starts
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: to get like, what the fuck? I thought he was great.
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: And then he's like, But you see the different parts
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: of us that can come out and come to the
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: surface when different things like are attached to us. Yeah.
- 1:28:28Speaker 2: But when we were making the movie, Seth and I
- 1:28:29Speaker 2: would talk about like, you know, how we'd go to
- 1:28:32Speaker 2: movie theaters and see movies like Anchorman or Superbad or,
- 1:28:35Speaker 2: you know, Pineapple Express. And and and you'd have like
- 1:28:38Speaker 2: a room, it'd be like a standup show, you know,
- 1:28:39Speaker 2: like a room full of people erupting. And, you know,
- 1:28:43Speaker 2: it's like what we feel when you do standup. Like
- 1:28:45Speaker 2: if we did standup and there was only like one
- 1:28:47Speaker 2: person in the crowd, that's not the same thing. Like
- 1:28:49Speaker 2: the people make a difference. So like seeing a movie,
- 1:28:52Speaker 2: a comedy in theaters, it's something that's kind of gone
- 1:28:54Speaker 2: away after the pandemic and everything. And, and, um, I
- 1:28:57Speaker 2: hope we can bring it back. I mean, we were
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: just in Chicago last night and we screened the movie.
- 1:29:01Speaker 2: We've been doing these like little secret screenings and, and
- 1:29:03Speaker 2: I've been sitting in a little bit and watching it.
- 1:29:05Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't even remember the last time
- 1:29:07Speaker 2: I've been in a packed theater watching a comedy. So
- 1:29:10Speaker 2: I hope the movie works and that people get to
- 1:29:13Speaker 2: make more comedies and they get to see them in theaters.
- 1:29:15Speaker 2: Cause you know, it's something that I miss. And, um, yeah,
- 1:29:18Speaker 2: I mean, especially cause our movie is like an original movie, um,
- 1:29:23Speaker 2: a comedy theatrical, it, It's tough to get it done.
- 1:29:25Speaker 1: I mean, I really am not even lying or joking
- 1:29:28Speaker 1: or pandering to you or to our fans. I wouldn't
- 1:29:30Speaker 1: say that. I think it's worth going to see. I
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: think if you took a date or a friend or
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: your buddy, you guys would have a good time. It
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: would be worth your money. It'd be worth driving over
- 1:29:36Speaker 1: there and sitting in there. So far, and I'm not
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: even done with it unless it gets really bad.
- 1:29:40Speaker 2: In the second half. Oh, man, the back has gray.
- 1:29:43Speaker 2: We'd have to talk about it afterwards because it really
- 1:29:46Speaker 2: relates to a lot of the things, some of the
- 1:29:47Speaker 2: stuff we were talking about earlier, some of the emotional
- 1:29:50Speaker 2: things we were talking about in terms of just kind
- 1:29:52Speaker 2: of seeing other people and seeing what they're going through
- 1:29:54Speaker 2: and just kind of giving them a look. I was
- 1:29:57Speaker 2: thinking about that when my mom was telling me that story,
- 1:29:59Speaker 2: but yeah.
- 1:30:01Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a great story, man. Do you feel like,
- 1:30:05Speaker 1: why do you feel like you have to do so much?
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: Because this is something I've struggled with in my own life.
- 1:30:11Speaker 2: I think I need to have a kid or something
- 1:30:14Speaker 2: because I feel like as I've gotten older, you know,
- 1:30:17Speaker 2: I do things like, oh, yeah, you know, I was.
- 1:30:21Speaker 2: You're so prolific.
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: You've done so many TV shows. You've written. You've directed.
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: You've won. Haven't you won an Emmy before? Yeah, I
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: won two Emmys. Damn, brother. Yeah. Gang. Yeah. But I'm
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: just saying like, and sorry, I don't know. I don't
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: know a lot about that. No, it's fine.
- 1:30:35Speaker 2: But, but.
- 1:30:37Speaker 1: But doing too much. Why do you have, do you,
- 1:30:39Speaker 1: do you ever know why you feel like you, because
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: some people, they could do half of that. and feel
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: extremely accomplished, and they would be. But do you feel like,
- 1:30:50Speaker 1: is it financial, which is fine, it's definitely nice to
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: have money and have security. Is there something that you
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: find because- Well, it's.
- 1:30:57Speaker 2: Not financial because doing movies, I technically would make way
- 1:31:01Speaker 2: more money touring. I'm losing money doing these movies. trying
- 1:31:06Speaker 2: to make a movie for theaters it's kind of like
- 1:31:08Speaker 2: trying to be like hey I want to build a
- 1:31:10Speaker 2: tower records good luck Aziz um it's it's not what's
- 1:31:15Speaker 2: the lucrative thing you know what I mean like it's
- 1:31:17Speaker 2: interesting because I I my like heyday of touring and
- 1:31:21Speaker 2: everything was probably you know 10 years ago when I
- 1:31:24Speaker 2: did um the garden and all that stuff I was
- 1:31:27Speaker 2: touring like crazy and back in that time Not many
- 1:31:30Speaker 2: people were doing theaters and arenas. Like, there was only
- 1:31:33Speaker 2: a few people. And now it's like, fucking everybody does.
- 1:31:37Speaker 2: And when I go on tour, I'm like, who's Alton Brown,
- 1:31:39Speaker 2: the chef? He's playing the Deepak Center in Durham? He's
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: just chopping food up and people are coming? Everybody's on tour, dude.
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: There'll be a dude julienning a carrot for 11,000 people.
- 1:31:50Speaker 2: Yes, and you're like, what? Dude, is it cake?
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: That TV show, Is It Cake, is going on tour.
- 1:31:54Speaker 2: I'm like... Yes.
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: Who gives a fuck? Is it cake tour? And you're like, wait,
- 1:31:58Speaker 1: that's what I'm competing with? People in the stands with
- 1:32:01Speaker 1: binoculars trying to figure out if it's cake. It was
- 1:32:03Speaker 1: not like this. At 70 yards. It's ridiculous. Who cares?
- 1:32:07Speaker 1: It was not like this. Who cares if it's fondant?
- 1:32:10Speaker 2: It was not like this. And in that time, there
- 1:32:13Speaker 2: was a whole podcast boom. Everybody found an audience. You
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: cut out the middleman of Netflix or whatever. People were
- 1:32:19Speaker 2: putting stuff on YouTube, and now all these people are touring,
- 1:32:22Speaker 2: and there's been this massive boom. And I, during that time,
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: made my TV series, worked on these movies, and have
- 1:32:28Speaker 2: kind of stepped away.
- 1:32:31Speaker 1: But now you're coming back. You're touring again.
- 1:32:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm touring again now, and it's been so fun.
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: And I have– I've had a great time, but I'm
- 1:32:40Speaker 2: also like, damn, dude, the travel. It hits me in
- 1:32:43Speaker 2: a different way. And like, yeah, you see October 23rd,
- 1:32:46Speaker 2: I'm getting stressed.
- 1:32:47Speaker 1: I'm like, dude. I can't go to Temecula.
- 1:32:50Speaker 2: I got to cancel Temecula.
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: San Diego.
- 1:32:53Speaker 2: Oh, God.
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: Modesto. Monterey.
- 1:32:56Speaker 2: Oh, God.
- 1:32:56Speaker 1: At least I can hub out of L.A.
- 1:32:57Speaker 2: Oh, no. Then I got to fly to Cincinnati on
- 1:32:59Speaker 2: the 13th.
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: Oh, God.
- 1:33:01Speaker 2: Then we got to fly to Louisville. TSA is going
- 1:33:04Speaker 2: to be closed. There's going to be like one air
- 1:33:05Speaker 2: traffic controller. Then I'm probably going to go down on
- 1:33:08Speaker 2: my way to St. Louis. That's going to be delayed.
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: Oh, Indianapolis will be fun, dude. Indianapolis. Indianapolis. Then I
- 1:33:14Speaker 1: go see my family in Charlotte.
- 1:33:15Speaker 2: That's nice.
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: I love Asheville.
- 1:33:17Speaker 2: Asheville is a great, great town. And Savannah's a great town.
- 1:33:19Speaker 1: Savannah's beautiful, too.
- 1:33:21Speaker 2: No, I love the show, and I love being in
- 1:33:24Speaker 2: the different cities, because, you know, when you tour, you
- 1:33:26Speaker 2: form a relationship with these cities.
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: For sure. Oh, you're excited to go back? You're excited
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: to see, like, oh, look at this crowd. This one's different.
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: This energy, this place is different.
- 1:33:34Speaker 2: Yeah, and what's so cool is, and I think this
- 1:33:36Speaker 2: is why people like to go to live stand-up, is, like,
- 1:33:39Speaker 2: even if you watch in special, it's not the same
- 1:33:40Speaker 2: as that show in that town, and it's really fun. And,
- 1:33:43Speaker 2: you know, for me, like, this tour, it's been fun, because...
- 1:33:46Speaker 2: I haven't toured in a while, so it's a lot
- 1:33:47Speaker 2: of stuff has happened. You know, I've been married, me
- 1:33:50Speaker 2: and my wife are trying to have a kid, and
- 1:33:51Speaker 2: to go back to the thing we were talking about of, like,
- 1:33:53Speaker 2: doing too much, like, the movies, I feel like that
- 1:33:56Speaker 2: comes from, like, I have an idea, and I have
- 1:33:59Speaker 2: this vision of, it sounds cheesy to say vision, but
- 1:34:03Speaker 2: I have a vision of something I want to execute,
- 1:34:05Speaker 2: and it's something I'm really excited about, and I'm, like,
- 1:34:07Speaker 2: racing to be on set to do, like, it could
- 1:34:09Speaker 2: just be, like, I'm writing something now, and I have
- 1:34:10Speaker 2: this one scene, I'm like, oh, man, I just want
- 1:34:11Speaker 2: to shoot that scene. I, like, think this would be
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: so I got to get there. And it's a long
- 1:34:15Speaker 2: time to get there. Movies are so slow. You got
- 1:34:18Speaker 2: to work with so many other people.
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: It's a nightmare.
- 1:34:20Speaker 2: But I do it because I really love films and
- 1:34:24Speaker 2: I want to make more films. But I do think
- 1:34:27Speaker 2: I've realized recently, like, I've got to calm down. Like,
- 1:34:30Speaker 2: I think I've overestimated my ability. to work. And, and,
- 1:34:35Speaker 2: and as I get older, you know.
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: You burn out, you get stressed.
- 1:34:38Speaker 2: I've seen friends that are burned out.
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: Oh, dude, you're looking at one of them. We're not
- 1:34:42Speaker 1: even friends, but you're looking at somebody that's been burnt out,
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: but we could maybe be friends.
- 1:34:46Speaker 2: I mean, I hope so, dude, we went, we went
- 1:34:48Speaker 2: deep here. This is, this is deeper than I went
- 1:34:50Speaker 2: on any other podcast. We talked about some heavy stuff. Yeah.
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: In a great way. I love it.
- 1:34:54Speaker 2: I mean, I think this.
- 1:34:55Speaker 3: Is so much more.
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: We talk about a lot of this stuff on here.
- 1:34:57Speaker 2: It's important, you know, it's nice to like, I really,
- 1:34:59Speaker 2: I really like it, but no, I, that burnout feeling.
- 1:35:03Speaker 1: It's like, Oh, it's real. I started shedding hair recently, dude.
- 1:35:06Speaker 1: We had a fricking retired Boston detective with some of
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: the craziest stories, found a wiener on the sidewalk and
- 1:35:11Speaker 1: it was like a real whodunit or whatever. Um, obviously
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: the person missing the wiener did it, but, uh, So
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: it was pretty kind of easy. It wasn't like knives out. Actually,
- 1:35:21Speaker 1: it was like knives out. It's a long story. But anyway.
- 1:35:24Speaker 2: Oh, shit.
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: I forgot what I was talking about.
- 1:35:26Speaker 2: We're talking about like just the burnout.
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. The burnout is real. That happens, dude.
- 1:35:29Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: Started shedding hair. All that kind of stuff.
- 1:35:31Speaker 2: It's tough to say no to because, you know, you're
- 1:35:33Speaker 2: having a moment right now and I've had a moment and,
- 1:35:36Speaker 2: you know, people start telling you to do all this
- 1:35:38Speaker 2: stuff and no one on your side of the business
- 1:35:41Speaker 2: is going to be like, dude, you got to you
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: got to chill. You got to take some rest. No
- 1:35:45Speaker 2: one ever says that. They're like, well, that's a great opportunity.
- 1:35:47Speaker 1: You should do it. And you're like, well, that's a
- 1:35:48Speaker 1: great opportunity. I should do it.
- 1:35:50Speaker 2: And when I was younger, I could do all that stuff.
- 1:35:52Speaker 2: When I look back at schedules and stuff I did,
- 1:35:54Speaker 2: I'm like, how did I do all this? I can't
- 1:35:56Speaker 2: do it anymore at this age. It's a different thing.
- 1:35:59Speaker 2: And I'm married now. It's like I've been away from
- 1:36:01Speaker 2: my wife a lot. And I don't feel nice about
- 1:36:03Speaker 2: it sometimes.
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: Well, look, I have a suggestion that'll help you relax.
- 1:36:09Speaker 1: Go watch Good Fortune. Go with your wife. I'm not
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: even joking. Go sit and watch it. You'll like it.
- 1:36:18Speaker 1: You guys will laugh. You'll get to spend some time together.
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: It's good. I do know it's out October 17th. I
- 1:36:22Speaker 1: do want to remind everybody about that.
- 1:36:23Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.
- 1:36:25Speaker 1: I feel lucky you get to be in London. One
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: of my favorite musicians, James Blake, lives over there. Dermot Kennedy.
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: He's in the United Kingdom. He's a guy that I
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: really love who actually is coming in town soon. Yeah,
- 1:36:40Speaker 1: I would love to get to live over this sometimes.
- 1:36:42Speaker 1: People feel very... It's.
- 1:36:44Speaker 2: Nice you're a little bit... I mean, you probably feel
- 1:36:45Speaker 2: this here, too. Like, you're a little bit away from
- 1:36:47Speaker 2: the circus.
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I feel totally good. And the circus is dissolved.
- 1:36:51Speaker 1: The circus is... It's a different thing.
- 1:36:52Speaker 2: You don't really need to be there anymore.
- 1:36:54Speaker 1: They're finding new places. There's new mini circuses popping up.
- 1:36:56Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. But then, but yeah, but is Nashville becoming
- 1:36:58Speaker 2: a circus?
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. Not too much. It still
- 1:37:01Speaker 1: feels kind of small. There's a lot of people moving
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: here and a lot of stuff going on, but it
- 1:37:03Speaker 1: still feels pretty small.
- 1:37:04Speaker 2: No, I mean, I feel like that in London that
- 1:37:06Speaker 2: I'm away from things. Whenever I go back to LA,
- 1:37:08Speaker 2: I start feeling like, oh my God, I'm falling behind.
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: I need to do this.
- 1:37:11Speaker 2: Cause you hear about it. Oh, I've just made this.
- 1:37:12Speaker 2: I'm working on it.
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, what am I doing? I'm not
- 1:37:15Speaker 1: doing anything. You've done so much, dude. I mean, from
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: television to, I know you had that series I watched
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: while I was on Netflix.
- 1:37:22Speaker 2: It was just you. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: That was Master of None.
- 1:37:25Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:37:26Speaker 1: The book that you wrote, I know about dating and
- 1:37:28Speaker 1: the struggling of love. You've done, let me tell you this,
- 1:37:32Speaker 1: if nobody ever tells you, you've done enough.
- 1:37:35Speaker 2: No, but finishing the movie was a big deal and
- 1:37:38Speaker 2: I'm glad I did it because it took a minute
- 1:37:40Speaker 2: to get it done and I'm really proud of it
- 1:37:42Speaker 2: and proud of the work that I did, my whole
- 1:37:46Speaker 2: team did, all the actors did, and I'd love to
- 1:37:48Speaker 2: make more, but yeah, I definitely, I hear you.
- 1:37:53Speaker 1: You've done a lot, that's what I mean.
- 1:37:54Speaker 2: I didn't mean enough.
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: No, no, I know what you mean. I appreciate it, yeah.
- 1:37:57Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, and your sister would be so
- 1:38:01Speaker 1: proud of you. What was her name again? I want
- 1:38:02Speaker 1: to say it one more time. Nafis. Nafis? It's such
- 1:38:04Speaker 1: a pretty name. How do you spell it?
- 1:38:05Speaker 2: N-A-F-E-E-Z.
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: Ooh, Nafis. I'm so glad we.
- 1:38:11Speaker 2: talked about that because i i i feel like i'm
- 1:38:13Speaker 2: here with some people that work with me and they're
- 1:38:15Speaker 2: like wait what because.
- 1:38:16Speaker 1: I think when we say people's names out loud people
- 1:38:18Speaker 1: that have been a part of our lives like even
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: when we're talking about like if you wanted to say
- 1:38:22Speaker 1: something illusion i think when when when we say people's
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: names they feel that wherever they are that is a
- 1:38:27Speaker 1: felt thing because otherwise why would we feel it you
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
- 1:38:30Speaker 2: No, it's bringing their– it's putting them in the– putting
- 1:38:33Speaker 2: them out there. Yeah, and I believe it's like– Yeah.
- 1:38:36Speaker 2: I believe they feel it wherever they are. They feel it,
- 1:38:38Speaker 2: you know? I think you definitely– if you're here for
- 1:38:40Speaker 2: this long, you definitely keep an anchor locked in. I
- 1:38:42Speaker 2: mean the other person I was going to mention and
- 1:38:43Speaker 2: tell me we can– I don't want you to run
- 1:38:46Speaker 2: late for whatever. But the other person I was thinking
- 1:38:48Speaker 2: of when I was talking about Lucian, Have you ever
- 1:38:51Speaker 2: heard of Manny that ran the Comedy Cellar? Manny Dorman
- 1:38:54Speaker 2: was the owner of the Comedy Cellar. His son Gnome's
- 1:38:56Speaker 2: there now.
- 1:38:58Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I know Gnome. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:39:00Speaker 2: So Gnome's dad is Manny.
- 1:39:02Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:39:03Speaker 2: First time I ever did comedy was at the Comedy Cellar.
- 1:39:09Speaker 2: They had a new talent night, which doesn't even exist anymore.
- 1:39:12Speaker 2: Now they just have like fucking 10 Comedy Cellars and
- 1:39:14Speaker 2: 10 shows. But this was like back in the day
- 1:39:16Speaker 2: they had a new talent night at like 6 o'clock.
- 1:39:19Speaker 2: And you'd bring like a couple of friends and they'd
- 1:39:21Speaker 2: give you stage time. And I did that. And I
- 1:39:25Speaker 2: was 18 years old. Summer of my freshman year in college.
- 1:39:29Speaker 2: Didn't do good. I did well. My material was terrible.
- 1:39:32Speaker 2: But I did well because I was very comfortable on
- 1:39:35Speaker 2: stage and public speaking. And I was just kind of
- 1:39:37Speaker 2: funny and it worked. And I came back and did
- 1:39:40Speaker 2: it again. And I did a couple of open mics and,
- 1:39:43Speaker 2: you know, had a reality check. Like, oh, fuck, this
- 1:39:45Speaker 2: is really hard. And then the third... Time I did
- 1:39:50Speaker 2: stand up. Third time I ever did stand up was
- 1:39:52Speaker 2: again at the Comedy Cellar. And it was one of
- 1:39:56Speaker 2: these new talent nights. And I, for some reason, this
- 1:40:02Speaker 2: crowd and me, it just, it, I was.
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: Didn't go well.
- 1:40:04Speaker 2: No, no, went well.
- 1:40:06Speaker 1: Super well. Oh, fuck. All your stories end up with
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: the go good.
- 1:40:09Speaker 2: And they went nuts. And I like said something at
- 1:40:14Speaker 2: the end. I was like, oh, by the way, like
- 1:40:16Speaker 2: whenever we perform here, we have to bring a certain
- 1:40:18Speaker 2: number of friends.
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: I'm running out of friends. So if you want to.
- 1:40:22Speaker 2: Come, like come say hi backstage or whatever, you know.
- 1:40:27Speaker 2: And I was just being serious. And they were all
- 1:40:30Speaker 2: just losing it. And Manny saw this. And he said, like,
- 1:40:35Speaker 2: there's many. And he goes, he basically came up, and
- 1:40:38Speaker 2: it was like some old Hollywood thing. He was like,
- 1:40:41Speaker 2: you're ready for the big room. I'd done stand-up like
- 1:40:43Speaker 2: three times. There's no way I was ready to perform
- 1:40:46Speaker 2: at the hardest comedy. And this is like comedy cellar
- 1:40:51Speaker 2: where it's like, Attell, Geraldo, Jim Norton. He's like, you're
- 1:40:55Speaker 2: ready for the big room. And so I would show
- 1:40:58Speaker 2: up there, and... and they would put me on late
- 1:41:02Speaker 2: at night, almost like a late night. It was like
- 1:41:05Speaker 2: really odd, because I probably shouldn't have been doing it.
- 1:41:09Speaker 2: I was just so green, and I was doing it,
- 1:41:11Speaker 2: and eventually, you know, Esty, who famously runs a comic
- 1:41:18Speaker 2: store that passes comics, She's like, okay, let's, you go on.
- 1:41:21Speaker 2: And I went on and she was like, yeah, you, you,
- 1:41:23Speaker 2: you can't be performing here.
- 1:41:26Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:41:26Speaker 2: She's like, you can't be, can't be doing this. She's
- 1:41:29Speaker 2: fucking tough. I was like a little kid. She was like,
- 1:41:32Speaker 2: you can't, you can't be doing this. You're not ready.
- 1:41:34Speaker 2: And I was like, okay. And, and then, um, you know,
- 1:41:38Speaker 2: now again, one of the, you know, Emmy, Masquerade Garden, whatever,
- 1:41:45Speaker 2: like this to me is the coolest thing. is that
- 1:41:49Speaker 2: I can perform at the Comedy Cellar and just drop
- 1:41:52Speaker 2: in and they'll just let me do material and perform.
- 1:41:55Speaker 2: And then the crowd goes nuts and knows who I am.
- 1:41:58Speaker 2: That's the craziest thing to me.
- 1:42:00Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 1:42:00Speaker 2: That's like kind of above everything else. And my biggest dream,
- 1:42:05Speaker 2: I've told people, is like that I'm just like 90
- 1:42:06Speaker 2: years old and I drop into the Comedy Cellar and
- 1:42:09Speaker 2: maybe a couple of people know who I am, but
- 1:42:11Speaker 2: that I'm able to fucking hold my own.
- 1:42:13Speaker 1: But anyway.
- 1:42:15Speaker 2: I was there at the Comedy Cellar one night, and
- 1:42:16Speaker 2: me and Esty were talking about this, and she was like,
- 1:42:18Speaker 2: you know, Manny saw you whenever you were really young,
- 1:42:23Speaker 2: and he must be up there smiling now, seeing all
- 1:42:25Speaker 2: you've done. And yeah, that made me smile. And I
- 1:42:32Speaker 2: wasn't super, super close with Manny, but he was another guy.
- 1:42:36Speaker 2: Before Lucian, oddly, even saw me and just.
- 1:42:40Speaker 1: Said something. What's a reminder, I think, For anybody that
- 1:42:44Speaker 1: has been in a field for a while of when
- 1:42:45Speaker 1: you take a moment to connect with somebody that's just
- 1:42:48Speaker 1: coming into it, you know, that it could have an effect.
- 1:42:50Speaker 1: You know, that's a nice reminder. It means the world
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: to them.
- 1:42:53Speaker 2: And you don't realize because I think we're all in
- 1:42:55Speaker 2: our own head and don't realize.
- 1:42:57Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, especially when you're young, there's one person
- 1:43:00Speaker 1: having to believe like, oh, good job, just little things
- 1:43:02Speaker 1: like that. And I'm still grateful. It reminded me that
- 1:43:05Speaker 1: Neil Brennan and Amy Schumer are the ones that helped
- 1:43:08Speaker 1: me get past at the Comedy Cellar. Oh, wow. And
- 1:43:10Speaker 1: I've only performed there like probably six, seven times, maybe 10.
- 1:43:13Speaker 1: But I walked in the other night and I was
- 1:43:15Speaker 1: so nervous. Like, you want to go up? I was like,
- 1:43:16Speaker 1: no way. I'm not freaking going up, dude. But I
- 1:43:19Speaker 1: think some of that's just places you used to be in,
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: you know. So, Aziz, I got to go, man. Thank
- 1:43:25Speaker 1: you so much.
- 1:43:26Speaker 2: Oh, man, this was such a great conversation. This has
- 1:43:28Speaker 2: been cool. I really enjoyed it, and we talked about
- 1:43:32Speaker 2: so many interesting things and really some heavy stuff, but
- 1:43:37Speaker 2: I thought it was great, and I'm so glad we
- 1:43:39Speaker 2: had the opportunity to do it.
- 1:43:40Speaker 1: I appreciate it, man. I think it's exciting that you
- 1:43:42Speaker 1: get to live in London and have a new experience.
- 1:43:44Speaker 1: It sounds like you've had a lot of unique experiences,
- 1:43:46Speaker 1: and that's such a gift. God's had a lot of grace,
- 1:43:51Speaker 1: it seems like, in your whole ability to Be creative and, like, man,
- 1:43:56Speaker 1: thank you for sharing that with us.
- 1:43:57Speaker 2: Oh, thanks, man. Thank you for having me.
- 1:43:59Speaker 1: You bet. And best of luck with the film, dude.
- 1:44:01Speaker 1: Out October 17th, so this week, I think. And all right, everybody,
- 1:44:05Speaker 1: be good. Thanks so much.
- 1:44:14Speaker 2: Cornerstone oh but when I reach that ground I'll share
- 1:44:21Speaker 2: this peace of mind I found I can feel it
- 1:44:25Speaker 2: in my bones but it's gonna take