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The Dark Fantasy Experience: PAX Australia, Alien: Romulus & Joker 2 · Multiple Nerdgasm

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okay there we go we've killed Matt it's just me and Dan this week yes so
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um
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yeah Luke and I were at PS last week
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before last yes and just like tonight Matt didn't bother showing up I know it's quite
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rude welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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Things
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nerdy there's no reason he could have just flown from America to mil for packs
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for three days I'm America for a pack so I don't see what the problem is as of
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I but no this is your first Australian PA Pax Australia is very different to PA
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America actually yes much more
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relaxed in a good way yeah it's relaxed it's more I think
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friendlier yes it is friendlier yeah yeahh now I know you went to PEX Prim I
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went to P East the one thing that they don't sort of have there that is the
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board game sort of part which is sort of part I like with the PA Australia one
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I'll admit I didn't think I was going to like that as much as I did I thought I
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was going to spend most of my time in the video game section but boy did we
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spend pretty much the majority of those three days in the board game the tabletop section
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like you walk around the video games it's great you see stuff but then yeah
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that's it with the board games though you meet new people and play games I
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didn't play any video games actually you played at least one because I watched
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you do a slalem skiing game yes which unfortunately that game I liked it a
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couple of years ago when it was there I liked it better then what was better
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about it then I don't know I think it was just it felt more oh skiing towards
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me a bit more this time they sort of flipped it because they've gone back and
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they've redone it from the ground up originally were trying to make like a ski
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free yes I loved ski free that was a great game and I don't know I just felt
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better when coming towards me now they sort of switched it where you sort of
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that isometric going away but we can see yeah ski free was kind of I mean kind of
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down and angle Windows 95 year old or was that earlier than that
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no that was Windows 95 was SC yeah yeah
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was that 3.1 as well I don't know I'm I didn't have a I didn't have a PC in the
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3.1 era ski free Windows 3.1 yes it
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is it makes sense it was pretty rudimentary
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95 and now we're even going to have like um a Yeti maker special like it's be an
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Easter egg type thing and magnificent um did find something
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weird out cuz we saw another game there that I said you'd quite like uh The
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Drifter watching the development of that game has he okay well that may me that
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makes sense that makes sense he's watching a YouTube channel cuz the
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second I said it he goes oh that and name the guy who's making it he's got
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yeah he's been watching the YouTube about how he's going through and making it it's
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funny you never really know when because I I follow a few of those and you never
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really know whether they're ever gonna really come to fruition right yes like
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there are sometimes where people go and then just nothing ever comes of it
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because I know a lot of people when they go out to make a game they don't think
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they realize how much time and effort it's actually going to be especially
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when you're going to do it yourself yeah because you have to be you have to be a
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good coder of course you also have to be a good level designer you have to be a
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good character designer you have to be a good artist you have to be a good need
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to be able to take feedback yeah you've got to be a good publicist you know you
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got to be a good distributor unless you're you know you get really lucky
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well that's the good thing about like at the Showcase like this is a good place
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for people to be seen and I know that like they'll have like people walk
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around and go hey what's this here's my card reach out wall type of thing and I
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know cost for a booth to just to to to show off a game that you've got in
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development i' be quite a few hundred I reckon I reckon it'll be a lot yeah yeah
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because they don't want it it's and I don't think they're doing it
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to make a profit but they don't want to make it too cheap that you're going to
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have yeah you don't want everyone who's gone yeah I've got a mobile game for iOS
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coming out what that's what happened with the steam Marketplace like there's
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just so much crap on there now cuz it's just so you need to make it that look if
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people want to go it's going to cost them money but not yeah speak of steam
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you did ask every single Game Dev there whether the game was coming on an Xbox
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and of course nobody said yes some they all said oh hope so really hope
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so well with a lot of Indie stuff like their first thing is to get it out on
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Steam like that's the easiest way to go and then you look at porting it to
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consoles but switch a lot of stuff go in the switch which
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is yeah and switch is great for indie games games that you don't have to rely
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on like a super hardcore processor switch is quite good um I believe
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there's going to be some big switch
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news very soon right okay is that I believe they're going to announce well
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rumors are they're going to announce this week that switch 2 will be out by
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Christmas oh no that that's insane that's I I can't believe that you would
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assume they would be marketing before the 25th of October if that was the case
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right like to start marketing for Christmas maybe you don't need to Market
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it I don't know but yeah I mean that's what I'm hearing don't need to but
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unless they've got them sitting their box and ready to go like Christmas is
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Christmas is like right around the corner like stuff with the I reckon it's
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not going to be it might be a switch upgrade like a
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new yeah switch to would be too big a thing to give yourself essentially a month of
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advertising yeah yeah yeah well I don't know maybe they'll sell the empty boxes
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like the original Star Wars figures no you got one figure didn't you did you
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yeah maybe you got one figer and then we promise we'll release
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more later yeah yeah we just didn't we didn't get time we we honestly didn't
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know the movie was going to be this popular no it wasn't meant to be we
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thought this was going to be a throwaway movie that has now taken over the world
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it's funny too because I we're on Star Wars again apparently
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um when we were growing up it was kind like was very nerdy to like Star Wars
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but [ __ ] someone was watching it I was also the other thing is I I was
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thinking about this just recently is it was also quite weird CU you could like
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Star Wars or Star trk you couldn't like both when we were growing up that's so
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true no reason why yeah no reason why like if I like Star Wars I I couldn't
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watch Star Trek cuz that's yeah and you would you would get real [ __ ] about it
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too like like people would be like oh do you watch St be like yeah yeah yeah and
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like you're like oh like Star Wars oh well you can't like Star Trek very much can't I
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and so that put me off Star Trek for quite some time till I finally went no
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screw it I'm going to watch it and I went oh I actually like this this is
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very good yeah yes it's totally
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different you could absolutely yeah yeah yeah except I don't like Star Wars
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anymore so no no you do like Star Wars I like a movie called Star Wars that was
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that when I was a kid yeah two very good sequels yeah yep and Rogue one you like
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the prequel as well yeah and I don't mind force awakens if I'm being really
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honest and I would have liked to have seen some actual sequels to that movie
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to that movie Yes not I still do not get the whole thing about that where they
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went out and did it and then just let any director just make whatever they
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want yeah do whatever you want so you sort of got the start End by one and
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middle and then they each had to sort of build off what the other left them but
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also try it was like three clean slates in a row yeah say what you want about
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George Lucas I like with like complete apologists for George Lucas now
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someone's done worse but um I know he he changed his mind a little bit like
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clearly in the first in just Star Wars clearly they weren't brother and sister
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clearly that was just not the case but but there was a draft kicking around
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where that was the case so he wasn't just pulling it out of his ass no but I
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do remember I watched there was a video tape I had years and years ago like I
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making a Star Wars and one thing he was talking about like return of Jedi and
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he's sort of like like how do we get him Luke to snap like what's that thing and
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that's where they sort of went sister like it wasn't until
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then we're going back to that MH and it
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worked [ __ ] yeah it did um we don't have to linger on sequels and I want to get
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back to Pack's talk but um I did catch
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up on alien Romulus uh this week too um and I I listened to your and Matt review
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last week and I agree with everything both of you said I think it's a very
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good movie I don't know if it's a good sequel necessarily because it introduced a lot of
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variables into something I mean the life cycle of an alien is confusing enough as
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it is and they manag to confuse it anymore but if this one criticism I have
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it wasn't that I can actually you said it too I I wasn't super invested in the
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science of the alien movies anyway so what you want with that I don't give
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[ __ ] that's Matt's department for me
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though in the other in the other Alien movies if you've got one alien aboard
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your ship you're [ __ ] you are [ __ ]
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you are going to [ __ ] die most likely the way you're
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living if you're in a room with a face hugger you're going to [ __ ] die
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someone else is slamming the door jumping everywhere hitting them with a
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[ __ ] baseball bat I'm like I don't know man this is undermining how
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dangerous these things are but then you just got to go back it's a movie yeah
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yeah and you got let something it had some of the best stuff in all of the
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franchise in it the the real life stuff at the start was so good and the body
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horror stuff was really really good um that I mean the alien creature design
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and all of the extra stuff lots of new vaginas that we haven't seen before cuz
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this is like really the first time that we've seen like what the real world is
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sort of like like you've SE we've seen in space there was Marines going to a
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planet living and they they Geo forming a planet which is not going to be a nice
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easy job you got people in prison this is the first time you saw just seen life
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on a planet that's out there [ __ ] yeah it's just [ __ ] garbage yeah mind you
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everything on Earth well not on Earth everything everywhere in the universe to
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be designed and bed by wh and utani though yes they've got they got their
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fingers in a lot of Pies as opposed to just they happen to own the ship that
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happened to pick up a distressed Beacon that happened to try to rescue a ship
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that happened to have an alien on it which I don't they they did try and
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explain that a little bit Al 3 I think yeah yeah they might have even
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explained it in Alien 4 but I've only seen that once and I pret was that super
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in the future she goes the company and it oh no that was three I forget they're
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all so confusing now yeah was it when one when she wakes up and goes what
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about the company and they go what are you talking about oh God I don't even
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remember maybe Matt would know Matt would know Matt needs to be here for
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this conversation yeah any alien related conversations I'll say this though I
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stand by aliens V versus Predator I quite like that if if for nothing else
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um other than for um for [ __ ] sake what is wrong with my brain
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you're getting old got remember anybody's name Lance henriksson Lance
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henriksson his time to shine as a human being should always be his time to shine
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yes agree agree but getting back to PS PS no aliens at packs we actually did
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something I've never done at packs before which was we sat down and we
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played a tabletop game like a role playing game yes we did we really did I
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think we were amazing at even the GM came up to us after went like you guys
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took that very quickly yeah yeah yeah I mean I must admit I didn't understand
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the rules the actual mechanics of that
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game at all at all listen it was it was
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card based and um it was like a tar Rel
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yeah relics rule game so it uses Tarot deck and then the different which
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actually that's a quite a good that's a great little gimmick you know the tar is
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but it also didn't really I mean if it was about a fortune
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teller or something in the terod it wasn't it was just a mystical thing and
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I think that's just because like that that was like I think the one we play
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was a game of angels this was just the relics as a rule set they're using so
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there's play games there's different it's not just D and D now there's
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different rule sets so there's ones where you just flip a coin a Jinger
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version there's like right different flip of coin version sounds very much
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like when we play D and D well yeah cuz we roll to roll roll to see if I get my
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[Laughter] sandwich but it was really good cuz the people we were playing with though were
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they got on board with us as well because they really did in fact we I
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knew that guy was a kindred spirit when he when they were like oh you're you're
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talking to a cocktail waitress and he's like roll to see if I follow her back to
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her dressing [Laughter]
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room yeah this it sounds creepy but he was there with
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his wife like yes and and we were trying to follow them to get
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Clues yeah but just yeah yeah I I borrowed money off everyone so I could
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go careful lost all that money did I to get a room compo yeah yeah and then I was just
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spent most of the game waiting in our um KIA Carnival in the parking
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lot which he had to have in the game the guy who was
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what do you call it when it's not a DM
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game master GM yeah uh he he did a very
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good job of keeping up with our ludicy you know um especially since he arrived
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wanting to take it incredibly seriously and I think tried his utmost to take it
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very seriously he had a very hard time trying to keep us on track to go to a
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certain place and we're just not yeah yeah we're going to follow this waitress
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to in fact yeah that's right and then and they say oh actually there's still
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stuff in my car I should probably go and get that um to the point listeners where
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at one point the the writer of the actual campaign we were playing walked
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past and just said hi and the GM said actually can you sit down because I'm
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literally stuck and I need to know these guys have Tangled me up in knots and I
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don't know how to end this game yeah like unless I get an asteroid Just Hits
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him I have no idea where to go with this that would have also been funny though
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yes but no and we did get their signature which I did think was a bit
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weird though well cuz they cuz we didn't ask for it we did ask for it and they
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went I wrot this for you
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okay do you still have
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yours oh no mine didn't uh mine didn't even leave my hotel room yeah I packed
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it all away just so I could remember the housekeeper might have mine now yeah I
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just want to remember what the name in the game was um I know we spoke I spoke with Matt
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about last week about the controversy of the cheater did you hear about the
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cheater I I heard that there was a cheater and that he's been banned for
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life not necessarily from PX but banned from just from playing play playing the
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tournaments which is at the moment but they're still going to feed it up and
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you may get it banned completely cuz who cheats at these games I know here's the
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thing about the tournaments right you can easily win one just by
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being Lucky by just you know like like you cuz you we got you to play in the
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tournaments with us and you you were teaching people at your second game you
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were teach people so funny the first day when I sat down listeners we played King
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of Tokyo which I had never played before nor any game like it it was it was
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completely new to me and um so these 25 Luke you'd played it but then these guys
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who were sitting with us were trying to teach me how to play it as well as you
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and they were using language that they assumed I knew just because they had
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played other games and I'm like I don't know what you're talking about like I
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don't when you say shorthand stuff I'm not I'm not going to know um we played
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five games of it over 3 days and yeah a couple of games in somebody was like oh
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how do you do this I'm like oh okay no you you can't leave until uh and he he
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he he loses and then and then he he's got the first option to leave and then
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if he doesn't then you can leave oh okay great great great and I'm like oh man I
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know how to play this game now right that's that's a great game to get people
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to come but that's also the type of tournament it is it's not like a rank
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tournament or anything it's a bit of fun there was that one game on the second
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day where it turned out we're playing against three people who turned out to
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be father son and daughter yes who like play that game every week you know like
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just in their own home and just know it inside out and then there's people like
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me who' never played it y that was so nice like CU when they won like when I
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got me we all got into that last final of the day and then that father and
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daughter they came first and second they went well we won yesterday and they got
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the priz and I went well you can have this one you can have
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this yeah that's right so nice so anyone who would go into that environment gone
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I'm going to [ __ ] cheat cuz I'm going to [ __ ] win and no at any cost like
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what are you doing do we know what game he was caught cheating at uh ticket to oh come
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on come on cheating at Ticket to Ride need to take a long introspective look
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at your life so he evid he was sitting on tickets he was doing the whole thing
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of oh I I've got like five colors and he putting like I'm down in a pile type of
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thing like don't worry about checking this oh my
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God it's Ticket to Ride it's lame lame I love ticket ride but I'm not
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going to cheat in it but yeah he'd be the type of person who downloads cheats on a
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on a game at home as well and yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't understand why people
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cheat at all no like imagine you playing a game
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and you just one every time now don't get me wrong I play every game on Easy
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by default now but I do that because I'm 44 years old I've got a family I've got
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no [ __ ] time to be playing scenes over again I want to be able but if they
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said oh just press a button and you skip scenes No no no I'm not skipping any is
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I I'll play it but I only want to play it once at the most twice but yeah not
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like you're not going to like Call of Duty just came out today I'll jump on
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that I'll play a few multiplayer games of that I'll not be good or I'll win a
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couple it's fine but there are people that who go and cheat on that every day
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you know why yeah what do you gain out of this nothing I haven't played Call of Duty
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since Call of Duty W it's a very different game now yeah
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very and back then it wasn't even I mean it was popular sure but it was like
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nothing like the phenomenon it became no the First Call of Duties were all like
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World War II and then it became then it became Modern Warfare and that was where
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it just went that was that's what it is that's the game I did enjoy watching
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Rainbow 6 tournament while we were there that was that was interesting too because
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uh it was like was it five on five or
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six on six teams five on five yep and um
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I don't know it's watching that live is interesting you got the crow because
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watching them work together in the tactics and like kind of knowing where
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to kind of gather and to Crossfire and blast a hole through the wall and then the
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commentators very audibly just discussing the game as it's as it's
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happening Y which they they can hear that you know yeah that's right yeah not
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interested to watch live but I don't think I could watch on like I don't
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think I'd watch the tournament now like on online oh like just go online and
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watch exactly I agree I like the atmosphere of it the watching it I tell
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you what's not fun to watch
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dodgeball oh man I still was aat I don't watch a lot of live sports anyway this
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will shock you I shock you but I don't go to a lot of live sports yeah I mean
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certainly not for a long time um but I thought [ __ ] it going to a live
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professional dodgeball game might just like sponsored by Red Bull with Red Bull
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teams might just be awesome Source God I
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just found they were
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influencers there you go right we got
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the Feeling listeners about 5 minutes in maybe not that much that these people
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had never played dodge ball in their life I'm not saying I could do any
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better I'm just saying when I watch professional
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athletes like time Tak actual uniforms it would have been the most expensive
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stall at P it was huge it had an LED floor which like when then we watched
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them play we watched like the actual bent to be professionals yeah the LEDs
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lights up and it'll give you like a free life and extra ball and all this stuff
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none of them went close to that the people who were just having a bit of fun
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when they're normal people play were using that more than they were yeah
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yeah no I just found a YouTube channel
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called loser fruit oh how they won the
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gamer Dodge War Tournament so yeah so it was it wasn't Professionals for gamers
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so all these people must be streamers and stuff like that well that just goes
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to show how out of the loop we are with the generation whatever yes what is this
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generation what are 20-year- olds now what what are they I don't even know I
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don't I don't know I have fights about what I
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am yeah I'm want the cusp yeah I yeah
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depends which one I look at sometimes yeah I have gen X's telling me I'm not a
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Gen X because I've never sent a fax but I certainly don't feel like I'm anything
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after that I've said faxes I've avoided it somehow I had to do it for
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work I've received faes received faxes Matt does Matt have
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a fax machine do I am I remembering that
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correctly I don't know I know I my parents had one at one stage in their
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home yes H my next neighb had a fax machine in
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their home office cuz cuz sometimes you would ring their phone and get their fax
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machine no faing was just a normal everyday thing for
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me but yeah people still say I'm Gen Y I don't think you're Gen Y I think I'm
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more Gen X yeah yeah yeah but it's just because I'm in that cut but uh well the
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thing I look at is like everyone I went to school with was a year older than me
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and they were yeah I think you're an honorary Gen X if if if not yeah if
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you've somehow just missed the technicality of a cut off yeah but like
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I was in school earlier everyone's older than me I grew up in that so yeah I'm
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Gen X I'm calling it anything else I I think anyone who's
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listened to this podcast is not going to classified as anything else other than
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the Gen X podcast yeah um what else was there oh the stupid
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thing is and there's something I get to where we didn't go see that many panels
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in fact we saw no one and weum saw we liked yes so I'm kind of
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annoyed we stumbled across it and went oh we'll go in and sit down for a bit
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and I when we found out what it was it was sort of like well it's too late for
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us to say no to go in now yeah like really interesting there people drawing
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monsters that that would have been very cool if we'd seen it from the start
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yeah four or five artists
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who do monsters for various things board games and one one who does the Aussie
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version of Pokemon and couple of the others that I didn't catch what they did
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taking cues from the audience to to draw monsters in real time y very cool very
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cool loved it very talented and yeah wish we had to see more but really next
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year we need to go see more panels but AG agree and we did say this before we
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went we were like we're going to make sure we know when things are on CU we
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going to want to see them and we picked out a couple we actually I didn't even
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go upstairs this year so there's a whole other area I didn't see CU didn't happen
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this year cuz I was distracted with other things M the Stalls with with all
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the you know the cosplay stuff and that not that I'm into that but just even in
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terms of browsing I didn't even see that till the third day you know like there
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there's heaps there the big thing to issue was Cult of lab cult l or C yeah
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can we please talk about Cult of the
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Lamb because I came home so listeners
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Luke and I stumbled on a temple built
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inside this Exhibition Center um C of the Lamb getting prepared
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to be married at separate weddings happened yep uh
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there and then a whole lot of other stuff and I would say more people were
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lined up at that for whatever experience was going on there than at anything else
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that I saw never got close enough to well every time I saw the line was huge
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so I never got to go in and then at one point there were a whole bunch of
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cultists doing this ritual there I'm like okay this is too cool I've got to
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Google this I've got to see what it is okay so it's a little what what how how was it
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described it's it's a Rog light um with a bit of Base building but with Bas
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building yeah yeah so build your F collecting new resources to build new structures
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perform dark rituals to Pease the gods and give servants to reinforce the faith
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of your flock yeah so in other words you start a cult you're a cult leader you
27:41
got to convert people to your cult and you've got to try to appease
27:45
whatever demons or deities your cult worships this all sounds very cool but
27:52
man I I I came home going I'm just going to [ __ ] play it because there's too
27:55
much hype around this for me not to even have a look at but you know I watched the the IGN
28:01
reviews and even though they were super positive about it but I was just like
28:04
this just doesn't look like look for me yeah which is fine not
28:10
every game is going to be for us yes I think it's just not a gen Zed game or
28:14
Gen X game A J Z game whatever I can see why people would like it I have played
28:20
games like this before be a bit of a Time sync I
28:26
think I was willing to let it time burgle me a little bit if it was that
28:32
I'd love to get addicted to something like this cuz it looks the art is cool
28:36
you know like thing about a time SN like this is is it is something you can pick
28:40
up play for a little bit and then come back later because it is just a bit of a
28:45
repetitive so it is a pick up play um I do have it on my wish list but yeah I
28:51
wish listed it too and maybe if it comes to $15 one day maybe yeah it's just not
28:56
the right price at the moment I just don't trust if it's on sale on switch it
29:01
would help too I think it would be good on that platform too because then I can
29:05
L it's on sale on Xbox right now for 18 bucks
29:10
18 how much is it on switch God damn
29:14
it that's that's that's an okay price all right well tune in next week
29:21
where I give you a review of cold of the lay cuz I just purchased
29:26
it okay well there you go switch how much is it on S 50% off I
29:33
can't not get it now so it's probably on sale because of
29:38
the like October um sales like
29:42
Halloween yeah ah of
29:47
course all right so yeah got it we'll
29:50
see okay yeah let me know if it's any good I'd love to play it but uh if it's
29:56
not well yeah yeah after I said I would buy it if
30:03
it was the right price well that was the right price I don't think it's going to
30:06
go cheaper than that yeah probably not look if you tell me it's good I'll buy
30:12
I'll buy it for $19 as well okay so tell me tell me within the window of it still
30:17
being on sale yes between now and Halloween I would assume I would say
30:22
so um so yeah so are you coming to packs next year [ __ ] yeah excellent there's a
30:29
few things that I'd like to add to the itinerary for next year and it's funny
30:35
because we were there for 3 days and I thought are we going to run out of
30:38
things to do no we didn't and there's things we didn't do yep um on the very
30:43
very last day when we lined up for that Dark Fantasy
30:49
experience I was like we next time I'm going to line up for every every free
30:54
thing where you do something and win something dumb thing I'm going to do so
30:59
we sort of cheated a little bit we were looking at a game I forget what game it
31:02
was but people were coming up and giving the guy were talking to a mushroom and
31:06
he was giving them a piece of gold back what are you doing and he's I'm part of
31:11
a he does with Escape rooms in Melbourne stuff and he's got something set up here
31:16
and there's a dark fantasy Booth up the other end and it's part of that so we
31:20
went and lined up for that and it was so not what I was expecting neither and I
31:26
I'm glad you lined up with me too because I passed it a couple of times and I'd
31:30
seen that it was this card game and I don't I don't really play a lot of card
31:35
games um Japanese like creepy woodland animals is
31:41
the only way I could describe the um the thing um but then I saw people were
31:48
walking away you still have it I do I've got
31:53
this little tiny Fox mask you could buy like fulls siiz ones for
31:59
whatever and there were beautifuls of this you know wooden orate that you
32:04
could put your cards in and stuff I'm like well I'm not going to play this
32:06
game but um I will ask how I get one of those little masks and the the girl said
32:11
line up and do a f minute Dark Fantasy experience you know and I wanted to tell
32:15
her my fantasies can get pretty dark and then we just lined up for five minutes
32:19
and just assuming your guy was going to Jer us off and even if it was only that you
32:24
know 5 minutes is yeah I don't know if someone else is doing that that's
32:27
definitely not enough um if I'm doing it's way too much but uh man I was
32:34
shocked I was shocked when I went in there because a it was very dark both
32:40
both literally dark and also just very
32:44
dark Vibes that's the bunny yeah so essentially you went into this little
32:49
tent where there was this like kind of fortun tell looking dude in a hood with
32:54
a wooden board game that you played against him nothing he doesn't
33:00
speak he gives you this little it looks
33:04
like a Taxidermy rabbit mhm like like
33:07
it's furry um and that's your game piece and then as you go around the
33:14
board you your budy gets stabbed stabbed
33:17
in the [ __ ] back with these big like vo you're dead and you got to like roll
33:24
dice and it's playing like little games it's like got to pick the longest
33:29
stick um yeah it's like the creepy folk
33:34
horror Vibe of the Wicker man like dialed up to 11 with the lights out yeah
33:41
so what I want to do I want to find out what Escape rooms they do and we need to
33:46
organize go to one when we're there I'm much more likely to do that than to buy
33:50
and play the card game that this is based on now I did terribly in the in
33:56
the in the game I I one roll away I I I I got my first roll stabbed in the back
34:03
second roll stabbed in the back third roll stabbed in the back you're dead get
34:06
out yeah I got to play a couple more games because I got a bit further along
34:10
my dice rolls a little bit better but yeah need to go to so next year you need
34:15
to come down early and leave on the Monday so you can experience yeah more
34:20
time y definitely so yeah so because I died I got the
34:26
mushroom you got the mushroom too cuz you died as well but thankfully we knew
34:30
what to do with the mushroom you go and give it to the guy from the other game
34:33
that we met I mean it was a good 10-minute walk from one end to the other
34:37
and back but um we swapped the mushroom for gold we brought the gold back and
34:43
then we bought our way into getting the the prize
34:47
so which is all you wanted it's all I wanted it's all I wanted and you got it
34:53
I did and I've got no regrets of lining up for 45 minutes for a 5 minute
34:58
and a 10 it was longer than I probably
35:02
but like I said next year more stuff like that everything that's there well
35:07
next um you also should have tried to get that Indiana Jones hat you know what
35:11
I mean like we should have could have because there was no line for that no it
35:14
wasn't it just looked really lame so we didn't do it that was sort of the most
35:18
depressing part of the whole thing bethesa sort of had a photo
35:22
opportunities set up one for Indiana Jones Starfield and yeah forget what the
35:28
other one was cuz it was just nothing and you could line up to just get your
35:33
photo taken yeah but you you missed out on meeting Dary by like half an hour oh
35:39
did you meet up with him yeah awesome how was it good nice meeting up with one
35:46
of our listeners yes I and in fact I just missed that because I was literally
35:51
making my way to the door when you were on the phone with him mhm and that's
35:55
when I took your pass and gave it to him yeah yeah that's right yeah yeah yeah so next
36:02
year yeah all right I think should we talk about something else other than
36:07
packs sure any closing remarks about packs anything you found disappointing
36:12
before we move on anything didn't like about packs still missing Xbox not
36:17
really being there yeah yeah like they had the PC game pass thing there but
36:23
that wasn't really anything I want Xbox to really be there
36:28
is it just Australia or are they kind of dialed down the American presence as
36:32
well the they sort of every like they do their own thing yeah they all do their
36:37
own thing now so they cuz when I was at Prime in
36:41
201 10 2011 that they still all had their massive no I think yeah they sort
36:48
of dropped out for even I think in America like PAX East as well which one
36:52
M go through I think they're not not as big of presence as they once did which
36:56
is a shame cuz I like get stuff from yeah did you end up getting a phone
37:02
number off anyone at Xbox that was your goal that was my goal but there was no
37:07
when I got there there was no one there really worth talking to so I've probably
37:12
got a publicity number online we I reckon we could we could work it out
37:16
like they I I don't want stuff I just want like if they release a new Xbox I
37:20
want to be able to get one I'll pay you for it I just want to be guar just make
37:25
sure you get one on the first day yeah I think that's fair give you enough money
37:28
I should be on a special list yeah that is true and it's probably a list that
37:33
all you have to do is ask yes so yeah one day I'll will find out how to get on
37:38
that list um the bar was was a Elder Scrolls bar
37:45
apparently um I do one thing I would they took by advice cuz I did complain
37:50
about that bar last year oh yeah um last year was just a pack Pub there was no
37:56
trolls about it there was some stuff there and one day I saw they had a
38:00
photo they had people singing and stuff oh okay okay we missed that missed that
38:05
but yeah last year when they had it you could not get in there without opening
38:08
this really heavy door like there was no sliding door to get in trying to get in
38:12
that door with a wheelchair was very very hardh they fixed that issue yes they did
38:18
they definitely did yeah but actually the drinks were quite expensive there so
38:22
after the first or second time we pretty much just went out to the uh the boat
38:26
yard yeah was still expensive but not as
38:30
expensive yeah yeah yeah very expensive that part of Melbourne unfortunately
38:35
melbour 10 I'll give you a five for I I didn't really go anywhere
38:41
else it could have been that could have just be the price I don't go out
38:45
anymore we couldn't find anywhere to have breakfast we ended up having
38:49
breakfast at the same Pub we had our drink hat every day yes I thought it was
38:54
going to be full of little cafes yeah no was great I think it's just on the other
38:59
side of the river yeah no fair enough we are just at the entertainment center and
39:03
the casino so I did get eat my
39:08
Quail oh yeah I didn't get the quail I did do the oysters but they're no longer
39:13
a buck of shock no they're two bucks of shock now so I had to cut back on my
39:18
normal three dozen oysters yeah well they brought out the
39:23
two plates and you're like no they're both mine
39:27
I like oysters yeah I like them too I just didn't need that
39:31
many they're not very filling no that's true but if you get one wrong I don't
39:36
know it's it's it's like the more oysters you eat the the worse the
39:40
chances that you're going to get a bad one never been sick off an oyster no
39:44
neither have I but that's I've always got it in the back of my mind that if
39:47
you get oy I reckon oyster sick is worse than any other kind of sick I've got
39:52
food pointing twice both have been from a cheeseburger yeah I got no sense the
39:59
worst one that I ever got was from uh a sausage on a
40:03
plane y I think it was a cheeseburger in a hotel in Thailand and then a
40:09
cheeseburger from an airport in Vietnam yeah so it's yeah well there's a
40:15
trend there and mine was also I was yeah I I made the mistake of ordering the Western
40:20
meal on a China Airways flight so they
40:25
dug it out of the back somewhere yeah get the noodles next time get the
40:31
noodles y don't yeah just stick with what's safe yeah what's safe is what
40:37
they know how to cook yeah yeah exactly
40:40
exactly um speaking of iller Scrolls um
40:44
I found out today that there is a Skyrim
40:48
mod that turns Skyrim into World War II
40:52
I you as well I've saw this pop up as well and it's a banned
40:58
well I can see why although I mean there's no real controversy around
41:05
World War II unless you're a like there are horrible people out there
41:11
who will play a particular way yes so the way they do this is that usually you
41:16
know you can join the Imperials or the uh storm close and in this the Imperials
41:21
are the Nazis and the Stormcloaks are the the Soviets and and yeah but they
41:25
basically you're you're in like Eastern Europe and everyone's you know
41:31
yeah I still don't understand why it is [Music]
41:36
banned I I guess they just don't want they just don't want and they know that
41:41
people are G to play in a terrible way yeah
41:47
yeah well I'm not going to
41:51
install yeah because but it's interesting that
41:56
somebody took the the time to make it I find it I find it
42:01
interesting some of the mods in there are amazing and that game's designed for
42:05
it it's just I'm wondering yeah I don't know if modding is really I'd like to
42:09
see people do more modding in SK uh not sky room um
42:13
Starfield oh yeah about Starfield forgot that game even existed DLC
42:20
yet haven't even driven around in the buggy that I complained should have
42:23
existed from the start the only mods I did my second of my three kind of big
42:29
Skyrim playthroughs I downloaded all of
42:32
the aesthetic mods so the like light enhancement weather
42:38
enhancement texture enhancement lighting enhancement all of those to for just you
42:43
know cuz it had been out for six seven years by the time I did it again and it
42:47
just makes it look better yeah makes it look like how you remembered it looked a
42:51
few years ago when you were like this is [ __ ] beautiful but unfortunately I want to
42:56
played next scar but we're still years away from that which is even more
42:59
depressing cuz it means we further away from Fallout yeah
43:05
true would you prefer a Fallout or a Skyrim I think I prefer a
43:11
Fallout yeah I like the guns yeah I'm a bit nervous about
43:15
another Skyrim honestly I don't know
43:21
why yeah the I think the jump between
43:26
Oblivion to Skyrim was so intensely good that you can't expect that to happen
43:32
again it's almost like a lot of people are expecting that and I yeah I don't see it
43:39
happening yeah I think I don't even I couldn't even tell you what you could do
43:43
to make it better do you know what I mean like to yeah but yeah people are going to
43:48
expect it to be better and I'm expect it to be hope for as
43:53
good yeah yeah more more of the same yep more of the same
44:00
highit color yeah yeah it did get very
44:05
Bland didn't it yes like even as they like with the re-releases you just start
44:10
to notice more and more about how it's very dull and not very yeah yeah so yeah
44:17
let's fix that don't be in I don't know even when a new one's going to be
44:24
set have they even decided like how far long are they even in developing this oh
44:29
they're not as far as I'd like I think we're still like 3 4 years away yeah
44:34
yeah which means we're probably 10 years away from the next
44:38
Fallout yeah except that there was a Fallout TV show that did pretty well so
44:42
maybe maybe that'll make them FasTrack it I don't know I wish they did what
44:48
they just do for that New Vegas go hey go play yeah absolutely that was so good
44:55
I played that again recently this year it's really it's still really good you
45:00
know what I want to replay you never finished it yeah no I
45:03
did you know what I didn't part where it's a you have to decide who to decide
45:07
with and I got panicked and I turned it off yeah yeah
45:13
yeah I want to finish uh Assassin's Creed
45:20
Odyssey because that is a very very good game and I I love ancient Greece and
45:26
I've I've I've gotten back into ancient Greece and I want to finish that game
45:31
but every time I try to put it back on I don't know what I'm doing I've forgotten
45:37
the controls I've forgotten what [ __ ] what I've already done I've forgotten
45:41
the story I've forgotten what items I have I've forgotten how the [ __ ] Armor system
45:46
works I'd have to start again if I was
45:49
to play it but I put so much in and
45:54
there's still so much to go can you at least have like maybe a different Safe
45:58
Fall or maybe just start a new game remember how to play and then go back
46:02
yeah maybe although I think if I started again I would play as the girl so that I
46:08
didn't have to play as this winging Little Pon just got [ __ ] gang [ __ ] every
46:15
bath house he went into his
46:19
choice oh yeah all consensual he loved it he wanted one I'm actually scared
46:24
about is the next Assassin's Creed the yeah they pulled
46:31
that very close to release and moved it back a few months and that's not good
46:38
cuz I don't think it was the fact that the game wasn't ready I think the game
46:42
was ready to be shipped I think they've gone St Outlaws coming out people are
46:47
not going to like this we need to Pivot
46:49
very quickly so yes yes yes I also
46:54
wonder but tell me what you think about this it's gotten so much
47:01
Flack albeit from Mostly [ __ ] that you can only play as a black
47:07
dude or the Japanese girl I I I I wonder whether they're going to introduce a new
47:14
playable character oh cuz I have definitely said that you'll definitely
47:18
still be able to play as those characters so yeah i' going to try and
47:22
introduce another one to try that you can play as just stock standard Samurai
47:27
not woman who's jumped you know levels to be there or this dude who jumped
47:32
levels to be there um although historically accurate there were female
47:37
samurai there was a black samurai but just and and you know what I would play
47:43
as either of those and I think that's interesting so I'm not talking about me
47:46
but I have seen even critical Drinker was quite critical about the choices of
47:52
character and I was like okay sure okay so I they going to try and sort of shoot
47:56
horny a third option very quickly I tell you if it was me and I had no you know
48:03
moral compass that I was going to try to stick to and make a point with that's
48:06
what I would do I'd go okay fine what who did you want to play as okay fine
48:10
there he is go yeah F you know if if I was just trying to make money if I was a
48:14
publisher just trying to make money yeah but then they're going to have to record
48:18
all that audio they're probably have to change the script a bit I don't know
48:22
it's a lot to do in three months yeah yeah and then people still complain
48:28
anyway yes that's what they do and the
48:32
more you add at the at the 11th Hour the more buggy it's going to be too and
48:37
they' had good releases lately with their games yeah like they haven't been buggy as
48:43
hell yeah all right I still didn't play I
48:48
didn't play um what was the one said in Baghdad that was like a mini game oh a
48:55
mirage yeah I didn't play that but it I
48:59
should it's not a full price game though right um no it was I think it was about
49:06
60 even so how much is it it started off as a
49:11
DLC and then it went now we make we put it out
49:16
into a game and I yeah it wasn't that
49:20
good wasn't good full stop or just wasn't good compared
49:25
to the amazing games come out right okay fair enough like and I've
49:31
played through like all the Assassin's Creed and this one was just there's
49:35
nothing new it's currently it's currently 80 bucks what on Xbox yeah
49:42
7945 or 90 bucks if you want the deluxe that's the cheapest version of it I've
49:48
got I get I've got Ubisoft plus ah yeah so that's what
49:53
$223 a month or something but you get the deluxe version of all their
49:59
games ah interesting yeah yeah I mean
50:03
the problem is I've I own pretty much all the other games that they have there
50:10
are more starting to come out like you got Star Wars you've got the Assassin's
50:13
Creed Mirage you're going to have the new Assassin's Creed next month I don't
50:15
own Star Wars I didn't play that yeah yeah so there are some that you don't
50:20
own now m true and if you think you're going to spend $100 on a game and that's
50:25
what three yeah yeah three months of the game part or the Ubisoft plus pass whatever they
50:31
want to call it I've got to play I've got to play the next elen wake 2
50:37
DLC um and then I've got to have one more go of control but I'm going to
50:42
finish the three uh tomb Raiders first I'm halfway
50:47
through the second one oh it's a hard
50:54
life yeah these are the the the tough decision that we have to make every day
50:59
no I brought the new um Starship Troopers
51:02
game oh yes don't no yeah I mean fine
51:08
it's it's a game to play with people oh okay yeah well and it's sort of insane
51:14
so I've been playing it and I jump online and it's you against the bugs
51:18
it's not you it's not player vers player which is I quite like but they've
51:22
introduced Base building to Starship Troopers so you got to build your base
51:27
defend it from Bugs upgrade your base and keep doing that I have no interest
51:31
in building anything as you know yeah people they're running around building
51:35
these huge bases in like seconds and I'm just standing there waiting for the bugs
51:39
and I'll shoot them yeah right yeah yes don't Starship Troopers the the movie
51:45
that's so obviously satire that nobody could possibly miss the point and
51:51
everyone does yeah yeah funny so like
51:55
bugs were right
51:59
yeah yeah we intruded into the neutral zone and they
52:05
retaliated yeah yeah I'm going to um I'm going to edit this to make it sound like
52:10
you're talking about Israel Palestine or or it now seems to be
52:15
Israel v everyone else don't understand no Politics on the
52:22
podcast no Luke doesn't do all politics I've got some sex crime news and some
52:27
racism news but we'll leave those to the Afterparty okay let's stick with fun
52:31
stuff while we're here all right um did you know that
52:36
um we we've talked about zarm the the
52:41
company that developed disco alium before they were bought and and finished
52:48
had money pumped in and the game actually made and distributed yep and
52:52
they didn't realize what they were signing and then didn't understand that they sold
52:56
the game yeah yeah yeah well three of the original creatives who now no longer
53:03
speak to each other or the publisher of
53:07
disco alium get game of the year two
53:10
years ago like runaway hit one of my favorite games of the
53:16
decade so many times yeah four times all
53:20
three of them separately are now working on the quote spiritual successor to
53:27
disco aliia it's not going to work I think I I want to know how many
53:32
of these three games will even get made I really think it was probably it's
53:38
lightning in the bottle game and it probably worked because of the three of
53:42
them and then also the publisher coming in and going yeah do this as well
53:47
because it started because three friends who were like where are they from
53:54
Estonia or somewhere some former Soviet state
53:59
um who used to play D and D and made up their own country and all these weird
54:04
stuff that was happening in it and they said this would be a great game but we
54:07
don't know how to make a game [ __ ] it let's write a game anyway wrote a game
54:10
that was basically a tabletop game in a in a computer
54:14
game I mean if that's all it was they would never have gotten it made it was
54:19
only that they got that cash infusion but the problem is as well
54:24
is there's not while it was a great game I I've only played it a little bit I
54:29
didn't need to go back to while it's was a great game everyone loved it it's one
54:31
of the things there's not a market for three more versions of this game
54:35
lightning doesn't strike twice too like the the things that make this game good
54:41
wouldn't be good if they were done again yeah it's it's sort of like the problem
54:44
that some games are having with like a live service like there was that game
54:47
from Sony recently they actually came out for two weeks and they went was
54:50
shutting down giving everyone refunds because it wasn't doing well and
54:54
it's you can't Destin to multiplayer games you can't have too many of them
54:59
because people play their particular ones and you introduced so many yeah
55:05
you're not going to get it's not like the old days where it was just wow you
55:09
know yes that's why you have you wanted to play online you were playing well
55:13
that was it now you've got a compet there is room for competition but
55:18
there's not room for too much competition yeah cuz you need the people
55:22
to keep it alive and people they dedicate themselves to one game so even
55:27
though you might play a game that they might like they'll go to it and then
55:30
they migrate back when so yeah three I don't think there's room for three more
55:35
of these I guarantee you none of these probably but certainly
55:41
not all three of them will ever even be
55:45
finished depends on how much money they got and how the well they invest it and
55:51
maybe they get new investors I mean I'm sure they can dangle that carrot but
55:58
uh yeah we'll see we'll see but yeah I'll play it I'll play
56:04
it you might play it depends if it exists true yeah exactly but I mean that
56:09
game it was it was the art and the music
56:14
and the game play and the story and the the World building and the characters
56:19
like yeah it was everything and I don't think that came from one of their minds
56:23
I think it was combination them the fact that you could
56:28
die in the first scene trying to grab
56:32
your tie off the fan you know like you could die in the second scene by
56:37
tripping over a lady in a wheelchair like and yet in some instances the more
56:42
you [ __ ] up the better you do like and that like it all came down to
56:49
what you were wearing as well and that
56:52
was so good that was so good yeah you had to dress the more
56:58
flamboyantly if you wanted to to convince people of something although I
57:02
want to play this B what I have been seeing online a lot like these Bal Skate
57:06
3 clips and it makes me want to play that yeah I occasionally I occasionally
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think about that too see some of the stuff like people be SE and then it
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comes up and it's a rice a dice roll and it's a ah yeah I want to see that mhm
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mhm so maybe although I just brought Cult of the Lamb so
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yes please play that first just cuz I want to know I want to know how that is
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I'm very happy I forgot to double check because there's different versions which
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should have a lot there's a lot of DLC for this and it's only the base game
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that's on sale the rest were not so good I made the right choice yeah yeah fair
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enough I mean some oh I have seen it where a base game
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will be more expensive than buying a bigger pack with the DLC because of the
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sale how the sale works crazy sometimes
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yeah yeah
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um did you watch Joker 2 or Joker
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Folly whatever it's [ __ ] called um no
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and I don't think anyone else did either I don't think anyone wanted this movie
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and it's so weird because I [ __ ] loved Joker it was
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great I just it didn't need a sequel that was the whole thing about it it was
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just it was perfect it was finding a
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pearl in a [ __ ] oyster like it was just it was Perfection I bought a red
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suit straight after because I was like Halloween I'm [ __ ] Joker in
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this James gun was very good to go had nothing to do with
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this yes I'm DC now but not that DC Joker is the
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lowest grossing DC movie it grossed even
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less than morbius [Music]
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uh was morbius morbius was Marvel right
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I thought was Marvel yeah so it's
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Crossing is it just superhero movie maybe then yeah maybe well just that
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maybe say that yeah it's it's it's gross like it's it's the lowest for DC as
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um the under performance came in the lower end of the projections that put
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Joker's sequel within range of Box off of flops the Marvels 46 million and the
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Flash 55 million oh my God the flash did
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that bad [ __ ] I actually didn't mind the flash at the end of the
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day I didn't think the flash did that bad yeah we come to think of it they
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didn't get any money from me cuz that
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was I think the problem is is no one wanted no one cared about the Flash and
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he was also a dick but they had so many Batmans in it
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yeah okay so yep so oh right so morbius
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is Sony so it's it's Marvel but it's not Marvel pictures that's why we were confused yeah
1:00:14
yeah spider they're still trying to play with Spider-Man's characters but not
1:00:20
Spider-Man yeah like Miss web and stuff yeah yeah yeah yeah that's right oh you
1:00:27
know what's offski blade what's happened to Blade it's not
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happening they've crossed it out they just not making everyone loved
1:00:37
him everyone is excited to see him again no no no I don't mean oh they might
1:00:42
still do something with Wesley in in in that universe but the new blade that's
1:00:47
the MCU blade is is not happening now look I'm okay with that
1:00:52
because yeah well I mean the blade that we like are still there we can watch
1:00:57
them anytime yes exactly look um we're just about out of
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time and we'll we'll jump over to the Afterparty soon but um
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1:01:39
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1:01:42
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1:01:46
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