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Star Daughter: One Man's Lifelong Experiences with Extraterrestrials · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, my name is Preston Dennett and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. I've got
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  Speaker 1: a fantastic episode for you today, I think. I call
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  Speaker 1: it Star Daughter, One Man's Lifelong Experiences with Extraterrestrials. These
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  Speaker 1: include not only UFO sightings, but face-to-face encounters, some with
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  Speaker 1: details I've never heard before, and of course, onboard UFO experiences.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very interesting case. I think you'll enjoy it
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  Speaker 1: very much. What I like about this episode is I
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  Speaker 1: was able to interview the witness firsthand, of course, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to play for you the clips of the
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  Speaker 1: interview I did with him so you'll be able to
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  Speaker 1: hear the descriptions in the witness's own words. The witness
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  Speaker 1: is Tony Ditata. He was born in 1946 in New
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  Speaker 1: York and his first child Major UFO sighting occurred when
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  Speaker 1: he was just 17 years old outside his home in Brentwood,
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  Speaker 1: New York. This was in 1963, and he had gone
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  Speaker 1: out for a walk one evening. It was around 9 p.m.,
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  Speaker 1: and he was just outside his home walking through Brentwood
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  Speaker 1: when he had a major encounter with a giant black
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  Speaker 1: disc at treetop level it had little red lights all
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  Speaker 1: around the circumference and i'll just let tony describe in
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  Speaker 1: his own words what he saw so.
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  Speaker 2: I left my house and i was starting to walk
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  Speaker 2: up the street towards her house and this is still
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  Speaker 2: in brettwood new york um i was looking towards uh
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  Speaker 2: the middle of what would have been the town. And
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  Speaker 2: there was a black disk. It was an awesome thing
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  Speaker 2: to see. It was quite large. I'm going to say
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  Speaker 2: at least 40 feet in diameter. And I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if the thing itself was turning, spinning, or there was
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  Speaker 2: a red light on its edge. And I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if that red light was going around the edge or
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  Speaker 2: the thing itself was spinning. And it was like with
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  Speaker 2: the front of it, the leading edge of it was
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  Speaker 2: tilted towards the ground at like roughly 45 degrees. And
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  Speaker 2: it was moving forward, and a pipe of cup would be,
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  Speaker 2: I would say, 30, 40 miles an hour, maybe. And
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  Speaker 2: I was at ground level, naturally, and it was at
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  Speaker 2: my treetop level and maybe a quarter of a mile away.
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  Speaker 2: And it was going... along and I would lose sight
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  Speaker 2: of it behind like a house and then it would
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  Speaker 2: come out again and I could see it again so
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  Speaker 2: I ran back to my house I was painting the
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  Speaker 2: house at the time so there was a ladder on
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  Speaker 2: the side of the house so I put the ladder
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  Speaker 2: up and climbed up on the roof to try and
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  Speaker 2: get a better look at it and it uh It
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  Speaker 2: went behind the house and then it would come out
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  Speaker 2: and I could see it again. And then it would
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  Speaker 2: go behind the house and I can't see it. And
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  Speaker 2: then it would come out and I could see it again.
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  Speaker 2: Then it went behind the house and never came back.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what happened to it. I never saw
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  Speaker 2: it go up. I never saw it go away. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know where it went.
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  Speaker 1: So as you can see, that was quite a dramatic sighting.
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  Speaker 1: Tony's next encounter occurred just four years later in 1967,
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  Speaker 1: and this was an actual face-to-face encounter with gray ETs.
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  Speaker 1: Tony and his friends used to hang out at Brentwood
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  Speaker 1: State Park. This is in the middle of Brentwood in
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  Speaker 1: New York, and they would just hang out, have fun,
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  Speaker 1: maybe drink some beers. On this particular evening, there was
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  Speaker 1: about a half dozen ETs They didn't have any money,
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  Speaker 1: so they weren't drinking beer at this time. They hung
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  Speaker 1: out for a few hours, walked over to the nearby
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  Speaker 1: local golf course, and finally they decided that they were
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  Speaker 1: going to go home for the evening. Most of Tony's
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  Speaker 1: friends decided that they were going to hang out at
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  Speaker 1: one of the friends' houses. He lived right across the
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  Speaker 1: street from the golf course. But Tony and his other
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  Speaker 1: friend John decided that they were just going to go home.
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  Speaker 1: And so the group departed and Tony and his friend
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  Speaker 1: John were walking along and decided to rest for a
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  Speaker 1: few moments on a park bench overlooking the golf course.
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  Speaker 1: And this is when they had a very interesting encounter.
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  Speaker 1: It began when they heard this strange jingling noise like
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  Speaker 1: car keys or perhaps a dog's leash or something along
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  Speaker 1: those lines. They didn't see anything, so that was quite unusual.
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  Speaker 1: But it was just a short moment later when they
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  Speaker 1: did see something. And it was a gray ET just
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  Speaker 1: 50 feet away from them. And I'll let Tony describe
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  Speaker 1: what happened next in his own words.
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  Speaker 2: And we turned and looked again at the green, and
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  Speaker 2: there was a gray standing there. Again, about... I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to remember the distance, maybe 40 feet at the most,
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  Speaker 2: 40 feet away. And again, it was facing us, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember any facial features, and it looked It
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  Speaker 2: was wearing what looked like a one-piece type, I guess
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  Speaker 2: today you'd call it like a running suit or a sweatsuit,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that kind of thing. And it was like
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  Speaker 2: the dull side of aluminum foil is what it looked like.
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  Speaker 2: And we both stood up and turned around and looked
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  Speaker 2: at it. And I turned and I looked at John
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  Speaker 2: and he looked at me. And we both turned back
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  Speaker 2: and looked at it. And I don't think this was
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  Speaker 2: more than 30 seconds either. And it turned. And that's
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  Speaker 2: why I know it was facing us because it turned
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  Speaker 2: and went off away from us. And it went right
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  Speaker 2: down the middle of the golf course. Now, this is
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  Speaker 2: not lit up. You know, there are some lights there,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not lit up. Like, you know, to keep
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  Speaker 2: trespassers away or anything like that. At that point in time,
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  Speaker 2: there wasn't that kind of thing going on. So there
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  Speaker 2: was no need, really, for spotlights and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, we could see this thing in the, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, I don't remember now if the moon was
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  Speaker 2: out or whatever, but we could see the thing. And
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  Speaker 2: it was moving fast enough that it should have been running.
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  Speaker 2: But there was no movement. There was no bounce. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember seeing its legs moving. It was like
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  Speaker 2: the golf course was covered in ice. or it was
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  Speaker 2: on wheels. And it was moving pretty fast. Faster than
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  Speaker 2: a human could run. And off in the distance, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to say probably a quarter mile away, roughly, there
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  Speaker 2: were a group of trees and two or three very
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  Speaker 2: tall pine trees. And this thing went behind this two
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  Speaker 2: or three pine trees. And then it came out. And
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  Speaker 2: another one came out from behind the tree. We didn't see.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember seeing the other one. And then they
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  Speaker 2: both took off down the middle of the golf course
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  Speaker 2: away from us. And I used to see John up
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  Speaker 2: in the park almost every day. He was one of
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  Speaker 2: the regulars up at the park. So I would see
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  Speaker 2: him just about every day. And I didn't see John again.
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  Speaker 2: for three years. And I walked into the Brentwood bowling alley,
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  Speaker 2: and there was John sitting at the counter. And I said, hey, John.
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  Speaker 2: And he goes, hey, Tony, seen any little green men lately?
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  Speaker 2: And we both laughed. And I never saw him again.
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  Speaker 1: So what an interesting encounter, especially the way the ET moved,
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  Speaker 1: gliding across the golf course there without even moving its legs.
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  Speaker 1: It's quite unusual. And what's really interesting is what happened
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  Speaker 1: after this encounter. They went rushing to their friend's house
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  Speaker 1: to tell them and found them all asleep on the floor.
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  Speaker 1: It seemed far too soon for them to all have
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  Speaker 1: just fallen asleep, especially in that position. Tony and his
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  Speaker 1: friend John thought it was quite weird.
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  Speaker 2: After we saw this on the golf course, we both
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  Speaker 2: ran to Dave's house, which was like a half a
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  Speaker 2: block away. I'm guessing less than a block away. And
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  Speaker 2: we ran... We ran to Dave's house and looked down
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  Speaker 2: in his basement, and there were all the guys asleep. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I believe it was a Friday night. I mean, a
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  Speaker 2: group of guys sitting there watching TV, they're all going
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  Speaker 2: to fall asleep within like a half an hour? That
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  Speaker 2: doesn't make sense. John and I do. What the hell?
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  Speaker 2: How could they have fallen asleep so fast? Because it
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  Speaker 2: seems like we just left them 30, 40 minutes ago.
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  Speaker 2: There was about three years after this, my girlfriend and
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  Speaker 2: we ran into this girl. Her name was Katie. And
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  Speaker 2: Katie was telling us that her brother... was looking out
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  Speaker 2: his bedroom window like 2 o'clock in the morning. So
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  Speaker 2: there was nothing on the other side of his backyard
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  Speaker 2: except the golf course. So Katie was telling us that
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  Speaker 2: her brother looked out there and there was a disc
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  Speaker 2: sitting on the ground with 11 little men walking around
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  Speaker 2: underneath picking things up. And it was around the same
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  Speaker 2: time that me and John saw the two grays on
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  Speaker 2: the golf course. And they went. When they left, they
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  Speaker 2: headed in that general direction. But there seemed to have been,
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  Speaker 2: in that area, from where we were looking out on
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  Speaker 2: the golf course, from where we were looking, off in
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  Speaker 2: the distance, there seemed to be a red or reddish
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  Speaker 2: glow coming from roughly that area. And I just, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I would just like to go back in time and
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  Speaker 2: see if they're connected.
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  Speaker 1: It was two years later, and Tony was dating at
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  Speaker 1: this point. He had met a young woman, and they
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  Speaker 1: decided that they were going to go to Lake Ronkonkoma.
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  Speaker 1: This was a popular hangout for young lovers to sort
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  Speaker 1: of get a little bit intimate and overlook this beautiful lake.
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  Speaker 1: And Tony was there with his girlfriend. It was at
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  Speaker 1: night when they had a very dramatic UFO sighting. And again,
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  Speaker 1: I'll just let Tony describe in his own words this
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  Speaker 1: incredible UFO sighting involving two glowing disks.
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  Speaker 2: We used to go to this place in a town
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  Speaker 2: called Ronkonkoma, New York. There is a lake there, Lake Ronkonkoma,
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  Speaker 2: and there's a town there, and In part of the town,
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  Speaker 2: there was a trail you could drive off the main
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  Speaker 2: road and go up this trail into the woods. And
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  Speaker 2: you could literally drive for about 15, 20 minutes through
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  Speaker 2: these woods. Maybe longer. And totally be away from everybody.
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  Speaker 2: In the middle of Long Island, New York, you know?
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  Speaker 2: And so we'd go back there and sit around and
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  Speaker 2: drink beer and talk and hang out. And then, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the guys and girls would separate. So me and Lori
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  Speaker 2: would separate and, you know, go make out and whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And this one night we're sitting out there and talking.
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  Speaker 2: And I looked up in the sky and there's these two.
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  Speaker 2: They looked white. Two discs. But these two disks seemed
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  Speaker 2: to be locked together. And they went, like, from what
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  Speaker 2: horizon we could see and to the other inside of
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  Speaker 2: 20 seconds. And they were white. And I don't know. Naturally,
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  Speaker 2: I can't tell how high they were or how low
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  Speaker 2: they were, but you could tell they weren't close. They
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  Speaker 2: had to be up there. And why were they so
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  Speaker 2: brightly white? There's no way if you looked up, you
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  Speaker 2: could miss them. There's no way you could miss them.
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  Speaker 2: They were pure white, bright light. But no sound. No
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  Speaker 2: sound at all.
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  Speaker 1: It was around this time that Tony began to have
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  Speaker 1: some very interesting memories. He's not sure when he first
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  Speaker 1: recalled being on board a UFO. It seemed like this
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  Speaker 1: memory had always been there. He just started thinking about
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  Speaker 1: it more and more, and it soon got to the
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  Speaker 1: point where he had to face the fact that he
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  Speaker 1: remembered being on board a UFO. And what's interesting about
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  Speaker 1: it is he traces this memory to about the age
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  Speaker 1: of 14, which was well before his first UFO sighting
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  Speaker 1: and his sighting of these gray ETs on the golf course.
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  Speaker 1: So he's not sure how this happened. He doesn't remember
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  Speaker 1: being taken on board. He doesn't remember being put back.
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  Speaker 1: But he does have a clear memory of being on
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  Speaker 1: board a UFO. Now, again, just let Tony describe this.
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  Speaker 1: his experience in his own words.
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  Speaker 2: I don't recall how it started, but I remember being
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  Speaker 2: on a ship, being on board, and I'm sitting on
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  Speaker 2: a table, and it's like a, not really a gurney,
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  Speaker 2: but a fixed table. But like human length, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like maybe a six foot long table, seven foot long table,
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  Speaker 2: something like that. And I'm sitting on the edge of
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  Speaker 2: the table with my legs dangling over the edge. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what happened because I'm sitting there and I'm
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  Speaker 2: in my underwear only and this grey walks in and
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  Speaker 2: he puts his hand on my left leg on my
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  Speaker 2: knee and he looks into my eyes and I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: into his and he's maybe 12 inches from my face,
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  Speaker 2: maybe a little less. That's all I can remember is
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  Speaker 2: looking into his face. And as I'm looking at him,
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  Speaker 2: his right eye in the upper right corner of his eye,
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  Speaker 2: it twitches, you know, like a nerve twitch. And that,
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  Speaker 2: for some reason, sticks in my mind as if to
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  Speaker 2: say this is a live-living creature. At this point in time,
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  Speaker 2: memories have kind of a little bit faded, but he
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  Speaker 2: took me out of the room, and we walked out
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  Speaker 2: of the doorway, which was not a typical door. Everything
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  Speaker 2: we looked at inside of the ship, there was no
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  Speaker 2: sign of anything. any kind of nails or screws or
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  Speaker 2: any kind of hardware or no light fixture. But the
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  Speaker 2: room was lit, and I can't tell where the light
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  Speaker 2: is coming from. There is no corners anywhere. Everything is grounded.
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  Speaker 2: even where the ceiling meets the wall and the wall
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  Speaker 2: meets the floor it's rounded and we walked through this
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  Speaker 2: doorway and to the right and there was to the
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  Speaker 2: left there was another doorway and seemed like some kind
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  Speaker 2: of control room, maybe, or maybe the flight desk. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what to make of it. It's like a
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  Speaker 2: desk thing, and I'm trying to remember. I think there
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  Speaker 2: were two other beings in that room. And that's really
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  Speaker 2: all I can remember. I don't remember how I got
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  Speaker 2: there or when and or how I was brought back.
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  Speaker 2: Any colors were very pale. Pastel, like yellow. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I seem to remember the light being sort of yellowish.
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  Speaker 2: Not a bright yellow. The room was, I don't understand
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  Speaker 2: this either. The room was brightly lit. But the light source,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know where the light source is. That is
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  Speaker 2: another thing that has bothered me over the years. Being
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  Speaker 2: that this thing was that close to my face There
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  Speaker 2: must have been communication, but I don't remember any communication.
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  Speaker 2: I don't recall any telepathic or verbal. I don't remember
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  Speaker 2: any sounds. It wasn't cold in the room or on
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  Speaker 2: the ship, but it wasn't extremely warm either. It was
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  Speaker 2: just comfortable. I mean, no breeze. I can't remember smelling anything.
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  Speaker 2: He was about four feet tall. Might have been the
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  Speaker 2: same guy. That's what I'm curious about because he looked
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  Speaker 2: to be about the same. Um, except in this, uh,
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  Speaker 2: when I was 14, I could see his face. Um,
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  Speaker 2: and it's not like the Whitley Streeper, um, communion, uh, cover.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like that. It's closer to, um, uh, what
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  Speaker 2: do they call that Russian, uh, video that's out there?
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  Speaker 2: Skinny Bob.
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  Speaker 1: So as you can see, Tony's onboard experience is fairly typical.
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  Speaker 1: He recalls the rounded room, the indirect lighting, gray ETs.
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  Speaker 1: He did say that the inside of the UFO was
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  Speaker 1: normal temperature, normal gravity, He says that it had muted
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  Speaker 1: pastel colors, no real furnishings. He did see a weird
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  Speaker 1: cabinet and other sort of weird stuff that he found
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  Speaker 1: hard to describe. It's a strange, isolated memory. And he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't know quite how this happened, when he was taken.
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  Speaker 1: It's very odd. And he never thought he discussed it
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  Speaker 1: with anybody. But he did later meet, as an adult,
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  Speaker 1: a childhood friend. And as they started talking, the subject
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  Speaker 1: of UFOs came up, and his friend told Tony that
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  Speaker 1: Tony used to talk about UFOs all the time. I'll
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  Speaker 1: just let Tony describe this encounter with his friend and
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  Speaker 1: what his friend said.
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  Speaker 2: I run into a friend of mine that was in
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  Speaker 2: school with me back then, and he said that I
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  Speaker 2: always talked about it. I always talked about aliens and UFOs,
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  Speaker 2: blind saucers. And I said, I did? Really? And he said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you always used to talk about that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, oh, wow. That was kind of, I can't,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I guess kind of a surprise. I didn't,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know that I told that to other people.
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  Speaker 1: So as an adult, Tony became very interested in UFOs.
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  Speaker 1: He started working at a factory, later worked at a
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  Speaker 1: car dealership doing detailing. And he became so interested in UFOs,
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  Speaker 1: he decided he was going to do some research. He
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  Speaker 1: ended up joining the Long Island UFO Network. This was
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  Speaker 1: a UFO group that met monthly on Long Island. This
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  Speaker 1: group was headed by John Ford, who founded the group.
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  Speaker 1: Tony was able to talk with John Ford firsthand. And
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  Speaker 1: John listened to Tony's story about his UFO sightings and
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  Speaker 1: encouraged Tony to go under hypnosis. And Tony was intrigued
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  Speaker 1: by the idea that he might have memories locked in
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  Speaker 1: his mind that he wasn't consciously aware of. And so
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  Speaker 1: he agreed. he agreed to go under hypnosis and actually
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  Speaker 1: had three sessions. And all three of these sessions focused
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  Speaker 1: on one particular puzzling incident. It was in the mid-1970s
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  Speaker 1: that Tony and his girlfriend, soon to be his future wife,
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  Speaker 1: decided to go up into the Catskills and up into
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  Speaker 1: the Adirondack Mountains for just a little trip up into
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  Speaker 1: the wilderness. This is something that they had done before.
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  Speaker 1: But on this particular trip, something weird happened. They became lost.
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  Speaker 1: Somehow they got diverted off the main highway and onto
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  Speaker 1: side streets. And the next thing they know, it is
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  Speaker 1: the next morning, and they're parked behind a building, which
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  Speaker 1: turned out to be a diner. They have no idea
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  Speaker 1: how they got there. At the time, they didn't know
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  Speaker 1: what to make of it. They didn't even realize they
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  Speaker 1: had missing time. But now that he went under hypnosis,
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  Speaker 1: he recalled a very interesting and dramatic onboard UFO encounter
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  Speaker 1: in which he not only saw greys, but another type
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  Speaker 1: of entity. And I'll just let Tony describe this whole
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  Speaker 1: encounter in his own words.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I remember we were driving down, we got off the
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Interstate Highway. And why, I don't know. I don't know
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: why we got off. And we were driving down this
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: two-lane road. And I don't know what sense any of
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: this makes. I'm just going to tell you what happened.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: We're driving along, and there in front of us, in
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: the distance, I can see, like, fog. Low-lying fog. like
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: very close to the ground and it's covering the road
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and then as I get closer I can see that
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: the road is going into a decoy it's going like
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: downhill not as steep grade but I guess gently let's
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: say downhill sort of grade and in front of us
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: was water And I don't know what this means. I
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: can't make sense of it. How could this road be
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: covered by water? And I remember I had to stand
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: on the brake because I was going pretty fast. And
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I had to stand on the brake and hope not
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: to go into the water. And the next thing I knew,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: we were in this... in this field, a very large,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: open field, I remember somebody being to my right, standing
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: to my right, but I couldn't tell who it was
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: that was standing there. And then I remembered that it
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: was her. It was my girlfriend at the time. And, um,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: She's standing next to me. And there is a... I'm
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: getting chills. There is a desk sitting on the ground.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: And this thing is... I don't know how to describe
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the size. It was tremendous. Tremendous. I mean, I walked
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: up to 747, and this thing made the 747 look
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: like a Piper Cup. I mean, absolutely gigantic. And on
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: her right and on her left, there was a gray.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: And on my right and my left, there's a gray.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: and they're leading us towards this disk on the ground.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: And there's a... I don't know how to describe where
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: this came from in relation to the disk. It was
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: underneath kind of like a tunnel. I guess you could
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: sort of compare it to a jetway. that kind of thing.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: And it was black. The walls, the ceiling, the floor
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: were all black. And it looked like, and to my feet,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: felt like rubber. I don't know what that means. And
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: there's the entire length of this thing, there is light
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: where the floor and the wall meet, it's curved. And
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: in that curve, there's light. And it's just like a
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: long tube of light. It's not like, you know, fluorescent
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: bulbs here. And there's a section where you see the
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: next fluorescent bulb with one continuous light. And it was
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: like a sort of lime green. And there was another
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: tube of light at the ceiling where the ceiling and
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: the floor, uh, wall met. And I'm, as we're walking,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I guess, walking into this thing, there is, um, the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: two with her she's in front of me and I
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: can see the back of their heads and they're closed
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: they have something on and I think it might be
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: black and the two with me I don't remember if
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I ever looked at them and we get to the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: end of this walkway and there's um a column at
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: the end at each side. I believe they were square columns,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: but again, rounded off. No corners, but kind of square-looking columns,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: ceiling to floor, about 12 feet tall. And there's something
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: kind of writing on the columns going from top to bottom.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Not really hieroglyphic-looking, not really Chinese-looking or Japanese, but something
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: along that line, I would say. And they're in the
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: same color that kind of... No, no, so... The lights
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: along the floor and the ceiling were yellowish. And the
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: light coming from the columns was like a lime green.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: And this... This opens up into a... A very large...
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what to call it. A room?
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. It's a very large
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: open area.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: And.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Not far from where we walk in, there is a
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: being standing there at like a podium. And he's tall.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: He's got to be eight feet tall. But I can't
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: see what he looks like. Except that it's a being.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: And it's alive. I'm not sure if it's... It may have, like,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: ropes on. A rope type of thing. And it's dark.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: It's not lit inside this gigantic... I don't know if
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: it's as big as the... The disc was... That was
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: the inside of the disc and that was its entirety.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I don't... I don't think so because the disc was
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: so big. And the underside of the disc was black also.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: The next thing I know it's... It's around 6 o'clock
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: in the morning. And we're in the car. Me and
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: her are in the car. And we're sitting behind the building,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: sitting in the car behind a building, a small building.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: And I don't know how we got there. And I
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: don't know what we're doing there. And I start the
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: car and we drive around to the front and it's
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: like a diner.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't just UFO encounters.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Tony.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: like many contactees, started to have a wide variety of
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: paranormal events. And that included ghostly or poltergeist type activity.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: He would hear footsteps outside his door. Other family members
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: reported weird events. And I'll just let Tony describe one
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: particularly dramatic poltergeist-like encounter. So here's Tony describing what happened
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: when he had this encounter in the basement of his home.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, when me and my two brothers were growing up,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: we had, I guess you would say, poltergeist activity. There
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: was a time me and my next youngest brother, his
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: name is Rich, Me and Rich were sitting down in
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: the basement watching TV. And me and my brother are
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: sitting there watching TV. And this empty box comes sailing
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: out of the room. And there was nobody downstairs but
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: me and him. There was no one there. And it
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: was like this box was kicked or thrown. Because it
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: was in the air. It's not like it just slid
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: across the ground or a floor or whatever. It came
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: sailing out of this room. And so the stairs were
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: right there, and I ran up there to hit the lights. And,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, we both knew there was nothing there. And
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: we looked around, and there was nothing there. My mother
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: said sometimes she would need a footstep coming up the...
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: the stairs from the basement and figuring it was one
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: of us. She would open the door and there's no there.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: She said in the back room she was doing laundry
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: and there was nobody down there with her. She was
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: just starting to put stuff in the washing machine and
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: she feels a tap on her shoulder. So she turns
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: and looks, and there's nobody there. I don't remember how
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: old I was, but my brother and I slept in
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: the same room. And he's eight years younger than I am.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: So he was already asleep. And I was sitting on
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: the floor watching TV. And I hear these footsteps outside
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: the door. The door was closed. And then it's like,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: you know, you go to stand in front of the
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: door and you take one foot and slide it. And
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: then you take the other foot and slide it and
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: come to a stop. That's what I heard outside. So
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I jumped up, I opened the door, and there was
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: nobody there.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Another really weird incident happened at age 12. Now that
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Tony had discovered he was a contactee, he began looking
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: through his past to discover if there were any clues
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: to this. And this one incident at age 12 came up.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: He was with his friend, Billy, who was also a
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: young pre-teenager, and they were playing cars, just rolling this
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: little model car back and forth. And this is when
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: something very strange happened. It's unlike any incident, really, I've
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: heard before. And I'll let Tony describe, in his own words,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: what happened while he was playing with his friend Billy.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: One of this guy's sons, his name was Billy, he
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: liked building model cars and playing with cars, and I
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: did too. And so this one night, we were over
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: at their house in Deer Park, New York and we're
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: sitting on the floor rolling a car back and forth
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: to each other and I'm sitting with my back against
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: a sofa and he rolled the car to me and
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I missed it so it rolled under the couch and
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: there was like a skirt around the bottom of the
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: couch there so I lifted up the couch And I
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: looked under there and I could see the car. So
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I put my hand under the couch and started reaching
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: for the car. And right before the car, I felt
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: a foot. And my hand went up the instep. and
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I could feel like an ankle and then a leg
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: and at that point I pulled my hand out of
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: there so I don't know if there were toes or
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: not I don't remember but I'm like I said I'm
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: looking right at the car and there's nothing there but
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: my hand is feeling this thing and I jumped up
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: and I ran out of the house. And Billy came
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: running after me and said, what's the matter? I said,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I fell to the foot under that couch. And I
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: have no explanation this happened. Whatever was standing there had
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: to be standing right through the couch. As if the
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: couch wasn't there. I mean, it was not human. No,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: it was not human. Where the ankle and the leg
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: are seemed to be thin. And I don't want to
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: say scaly, but just not right. Not skinny. It wasn't
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: skin and it wasn't a shoe and it wasn't clothing.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: It was a naked foot. So like I said, I've
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: had weird things all throughout my life.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: So there were all these weird experiences going on. Tony
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: doesn't remember anything happening for a number of years. And
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: then he moved to Oklahoma and one evening he decided
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: he was going to visit his brother who lived in Tuttle, Oklahoma.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: This is a very small town, quite rural. There's not
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of people there, certainly not when this incident occurred,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: which was about 10 years ago in 2011. This was
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the July 4th weekend, and Tony had traveled to his
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: brother's house, There was a lot of family members there,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: some friends as well. And they enjoyed a Fourth of
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: July barbecue. It got dark. They watched fireworks in the distance.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: And finally, around 11 p.m. or so, Tony decided he
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: was going to drive home. And he said goodbye to
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: his brother and friends and everybody and started to walk
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: to his car. And he said, clicked the little clicker
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: on his car to unlock it. This turned on the headlights,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: and this is when he saw something very unusual. There
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: was a gray E.T. standing in full view of the headlights.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: The headlights were actually shining on this E.T., and it
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: was just a few feet away. And I'll let Tony
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: describe this incredible encounter with this gray E.T., I walked.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Out of the house and I hit my clicker to
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: unlock my car doors. And when I do that, the
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: headlights come on. And, um, I wasn't looking at the
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: car because I know what's going to happen with the car,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: you know? Uh, so, uh, I was looking towards, there's
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: a garage off in there, a few yards away from
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: the house. I was sort of looking towards the garage area.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: And I thought I saw something out of the corner
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: of my left eye. And I turned and there was
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: a gray standing there. About four feet tall. I couldn't
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: see from like the knees down because it was standing
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: in some tall grass. I stood there and looked at
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: it and it was looking at me and it was
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: like I wasn't afraid and it didn't seem to be.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: my feelings at the time, well, I guess just interest
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: and I guess sort of a state of awe. It
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: finally turned and went towards the back of the house
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: and as it turned and moved away, I don't understand
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: how it moved because it wasn't running it was extremely
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: fast and I just I mean even now I can't
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: put into words how it moved I've never seen anything
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: do what this thing did And it went towards the
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: back of the house in the backyard there. And there
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: was six-foot chain-link fence around the back part of the house.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: And I thought I saw it jump over the fence.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: And it was like 20 feet in the air. And
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: that blew my mind also. Also, when it was standing
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: there and I was standing there, it's weird, but I
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: don't remember any facial features or anything like that. I
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: don't know. I could never understand why. I don't remember
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: any facial features or anything like that. It must have
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: been facing me.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: So that's an amazing encounter. I've never heard anyone describing
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: an ET jumping over a chain link fence and flying
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: like 20 feet into the air. So, wow. I mean,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: that's just crazy. Tony did get a good look at
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: this ET and how it ran. And I'll just... Let
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: him describe again what this ET looked like.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: And for the longest time, I wondered why did that
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: thing stand there so long? It had to be about
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: 30 or 40 seconds. I don't think it was any
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: longer than that. I think it was like 30, 40 seconds.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: And I couldn't understand why it would stand there and
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: not just turn and run away when the headlights came on.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: I might have just, you know, caught a glimpse of
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: it in that circumstance, but it stood there. And as
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I thought about it, I thought, you know, maybe... It
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: didn't run because I know it. He knows me much faster,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: much faster than I've ever seen anything move, animal or human.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I just don't understand what means locomotion it used. It
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: just doesn't compute. You know, I don't know how else
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: to put it. The head was large in comparison to
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: the size of the body. And it was, I don't
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: know what typical really is, but sort of typical gray
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: looking head, larger on the top, kind of bulbous. and
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: coming to a point more or less towards the chin area.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Very slim arms and what I could see of its legs.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I don't remember the hands really.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: So immediately following this event, he ran back inside and
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: told everybody. And there was a kind of an interesting
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: aftermath to this whole encounter. as Tony says, and I'll
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: just let him speak in his own words.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: And I went back inside the house, and my brother
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: and his wife were sitting on the couch, and in
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: front of them was a coffee table, and like I said,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: there was about 12 people inside, and I walked up
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: to the coffee table, and stood in front of my
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: brother and his wife. And they looked at me and
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: they said, what's the matter? And I said, I just
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: saw a gray. And they said, what? I said, I
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: just saw a gray. And my brother said, where? And
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: it was like right outside the window. that they were
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: sitting next to. And everybody jumped up, turned on the
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: outside light, and started looking around, you know. And by
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: this time, you know, it was long gone, but there
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: was one little girl about 12 or 13 years old. Gee,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know how come she went where she went.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, people were looking all over the place. And
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: she went right to where the thing was standing. And
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: you could see a trail in the tall grass. And
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: it was about the same size as she was. When
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: everybody ran out, they were like, wow. It was right there.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Holy smoke, how close to the house it was. Because
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: it was standing right off the corner of the house.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe 10 feet from the house itself. Yeah, it never
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: moved until it left. It just stood there. And that
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: bothered me for the longest time. Why? Why did it
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: stand there? Oh, I mean, 30 or 40 seconds is
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: not a long time. But in that setting, it's kind
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: of a long time. Yeah, sure. I mean, you know,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: take any animal, you know, for an example. It wouldn't
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: stick around that long. The headlights come on, and the
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: thing would have been gone. It was a deer or,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: you know, some kind of animal. But, I mean, there
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: was no mistaking what this was. It wasn't far away
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: from it. You know, it wasn't like it was 100
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: yards or whatever. It was really close. And that's another
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: thing why I don't understand why I don't remember seeing, like,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: especially his eyes. And also, I forgot to mention, my
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: brother has two dogs. And one was a little dog,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: a terrier kind of dog. I don't remember exactly now
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: what dog it was. They've had so many. But they
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: also had a big dog. It was like a shepherd mix.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: And the shepherd liked to be outside. This dog was
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: always outside. And if it was raining and raining hard,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: they would have to drag the dog inside the house.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: He just didn't like to come inside. And this particular night,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: when everybody ran outside, the dogs ran in the house
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: and went to the back of the house and stayed there. And, um,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: my brother's wife told me that the next night there
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: was something outside because the both dogs came in the
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: house and they ran to the back of the house
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: and got under a bed and was hiding under a bed. And, um,
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: she said that they had all the lights on outside.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: It And my brother wouldn't go near the front door.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Every time I talk about this kind of stuff to him,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: he has the attitude, well, you know, Tony, get over it.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: It happened. So what? You know, what's the big deal?
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: And I don't.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Understand why either, that it's changed me, it's changed my life,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: it's changed the way I think and feel. To be
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: that close to something that is not from here. It's just,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know how else to explain it except to
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: say that it's on my mind, I'm not going to
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: say constantly, but a lot, a lot of the time,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: I think about these things.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: So as you can see, Tony has had some very
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: interesting experiences throughout his life. One of the most interesting
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: is meeting his daughter, who is not human. Tony does
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: have a son, but he has never had a daughter,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: not a human daughter, but he has a very clear
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: memory of seeing her and like his early childhood encounter
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  Speaker 1: at age 14 he doesn't remember being taken on board
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  Speaker 1: or going back but he has a very clear memory
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  Speaker 1: of seeing his own daughter it's quite an emotional thing
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  Speaker 1: for him He doesn't talk to a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: about it, because many people don't understand, but he agreed
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  Speaker 1: to share it with me. So here's Tony's description of
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  Speaker 1: who he calls his star daughter.
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  Speaker 2: My mother knew that I had encounters. I have I
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  Speaker 2: have a daughter who's out there. I know I've seen
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  Speaker 2: her once at least. I don't remember the circumstances how
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  Speaker 2: it was that I got to see her. or anything
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  Speaker 2: else connected with her, except that she's not entirely human.
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  Speaker 2: I found a picture on Paula Harris's website. It's supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be an actual photograph of a hybrid. And it
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  Speaker 2: looks just like her. My mother lived out in a
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  Speaker 2: town called Bayport, which was, I can't remember now in miles,
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  Speaker 2: probably about 30 miles from Brentwood. And I lived in Brentwood,
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  Speaker 2: and she lived out there. And sometimes I would call
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  Speaker 2: her up, and we would talk. I would talk about
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  Speaker 2: this stuff, and she was from Oklahoma. That's part of
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  Speaker 2: why I'm here. When I became disabled, being on a
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  Speaker 2: limited income, it's not too easy to live in New York.
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  Speaker 2: So I'd been coming here to Oklahoma all my life
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  Speaker 2: because my mother was from here. And so my mother
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  Speaker 2: used to make this stuff that we called bacon gravy.
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  Speaker 2: Here in the South, there's something called biscuits and gravy
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  Speaker 2: that people eat. And she used to make gravy out of,
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  Speaker 2: instead of sausage, grease. And she'd make it with bacon fat.
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  Speaker 2: And it was so good. And I called her up
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  Speaker 2: one morning. It was about two in the morning. And
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  Speaker 2: I said, Mom, I feel like some bacon gravy. And
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  Speaker 2: she said, well, where are you? And I told her
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  Speaker 2: I was in Brentwood. And she said, you want me
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  Speaker 2: to come all the way out there and pick you up?
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  Speaker 2: I said, yeah. And I said, Mom, listen, uh, I
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  Speaker 2: have a daughter. And she said, what? And I said,
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  Speaker 2: I have a daughter. And she says, oh, Tony. She
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  Speaker 2: knew what I meant. And we talked about it for
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. And there's... Oh, I got chills. There's times,
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  Speaker 2: and I can't explain this, so I don't know. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just going to tell you. There's times when I feel her,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know what that means. But I know
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  Speaker 2: it's her, and I just feel her. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if it's a thought transference or if she is actually near.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Another very interesting aspect of Tony's experiences is that he
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  Speaker 1: actually remembers a past life as an ET. This is
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  Speaker 1: not unusual. I've heard this from a number of contactees.
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  Speaker 1: Tony was quite surprised when I told him that. But
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  Speaker 1: here's Tony's description of his past life memories as an ET.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, like I said, I'm 70 years
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  Speaker 2: old now, and I don't know if that has anything
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  Speaker 2: to do with anything. I haven't thought about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: past lives or anything like that, except for one thing. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: and I, sometimes I'm a little bit hesitant to say this,
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  Speaker 2: but I, I have a feeling that I, in past life,
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  Speaker 2: I may have lived on another planet in another form.
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  Speaker 2: But the longest time, um, And I can't explain this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand it. But for the longest time, when
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the shower and I look down at my legs,
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  Speaker 2: they don't look right. Like my knees are supposed to
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  Speaker 2: bend the other way. And I should be walking on
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  Speaker 2: the balls of my feet. Where does that come from? Well,
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  Speaker 2: so am I out of my mind? Am I out
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  Speaker 2: of my gourd or what?
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  Speaker 1: So there you go. It's quite an interesting series of encounters.
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  Speaker 1: Tony's experiences started out quite fearful, but now as an
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  Speaker 1: elderly gentleman, he looks back on it as a blessing.
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  Speaker 1: He feels like he's gotten a lot of knowledge and
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  Speaker 1: experience and enlightenment from all of this. He wouldn't trade
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  Speaker 1: it for anything. He looks forward to having another encounter.
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  Speaker 1: He has no real fear anymore, but it has definitely
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  Speaker 1: changed his outlook. And I'll just leave you with one
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: final quote from Tony about how his experiences have left
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  Speaker 1: him transformed.
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  Speaker 3: I really have been AND STILL AM CONFUSED.
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  Speaker 2: WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON HERE
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  Speaker 2: ON EARTH. AND I TRIED TO EXPLAIN THIS TO MY SON,
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  Speaker 2: AND I REALLY HAVE NO WAY TO EXPLAIN THIS. I
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  Speaker 2: have a completely different look at this planet. Because it
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  Speaker 2: is only one of many. And there's life everywhere. I...
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  Speaker 2: This is... I... I know this. But how? So when
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  Speaker 2: I look at things that are going on here... I
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  Speaker 2: don't understand how things are, why things are the way
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  Speaker 2: they are. If everybody could understand and realize that we
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  Speaker 2: are just part and a very small part of a
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  Speaker 2: gigantic universe, I guess, for lack of a better word,
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  Speaker 2: full of life. There's probably things all around us that
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  Speaker 2: we may not even be able to see. How do
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  Speaker 2: you explain that? I mean, I'm no physicist or astrophysicist
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  Speaker 2: or anything like that. Where does this come from? And
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  Speaker 2: one thing I wanted to add, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it's important or not, but I just wanted that doctor
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  Speaker 2: that did the hypnosis... He told me that I have PTSD,
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  Speaker 2: which is now, and I don't understand why it's dissipated.
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  Speaker 2: It's not gone. You know, I can't sleep in silence.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like silence, and I don't like jet black darkness.
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  Speaker 2: I have to have some kind of light, and I
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: have to have some kind of sound, because I don't...
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  Speaker 2: The only way I can explain it is that... I
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  Speaker 2: don't want them sneaking up on me. That's when I
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  Speaker 2: asked him if I was crazy. And he said, no,
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  Speaker 2: that I wasn't crazy and all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And he said, Tony, you have PTSD. I said, what?
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  Speaker 2: He says, yeah, you are showing signs of PTSD. Well, I...
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  Speaker 2: I have to say, I used to be that way.
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  Speaker 2: I used to not talk about it and keep it
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  Speaker 2: to myself. Now, I just don't care anymore. I'm not...
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  Speaker 2: I'm not... I'm not looking... I'm not telling stories. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not making up things. So you believe me? You believe me.
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  Speaker 2: You don't? You don't. Who cares? I don't. This is
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: what happened. I'm telling you what happened. You believe it? Fine.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: You don't? Fine. Doesn't matter. I can only tell you
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  Speaker 2: what happened.
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  Speaker 1: So that is Tony's story. I hope you've enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: I told Tony's story in my book, Onboard UFO Encounters.
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  Speaker 1: It's quite a fascinating series of events and shows how
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  Speaker 1: a person can have a lifelong series of experiences that
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: start out somewhat fearful in some cases, but end up
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: being quite spiritual and transformative. So that's really why I
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: wanted to do this video because it's a really interesting
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  Speaker 1: insight into what it's like to live your whole life
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  Speaker 1: with this phenomenon. And I really want to thank Tony
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  Speaker 1: for agreeing to be interviewed, for allowing his real name
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  Speaker 1: to be used. He's quite an interesting gentleman. He's got
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: a great sense of humor. And I'm very happy to
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  Speaker 1: see that he has come forward to talk about his encounters.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the show for today. Once again, I want
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  Speaker 1: to thank you for watching. I really appreciate it. I
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  Speaker 1: hope you've enjoyed this show. And until next time, keep
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  Speaker 1: asking questions, keep searching for the truth, and keep having fun.