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- 4:48Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon. We're looking at partly cloudy
- 4:51Speaker 2: skies this afternoon, around sixty six or so for the
- 4:54Speaker 2: daytime high. Clear tonight forty five sitting on the patio.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Last night, little chili like it, but chili sunshine, and
- 5:04Speaker 2: seventy five tomorrow Tomorrow night at thunder Road, partly cloudy
- 5:08Speaker 2: in about fifty five. Rain coming into the picture on Friday.
- 5:12Speaker 2: Do I need to say much needed rain? I don't,
- 5:14Speaker 2: because you already know that's the case.
- 5:17Speaker 3: We need it.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Yes, sixty six for the high on Friday and Saturday,
- 5:22Speaker 2: the sun comes back with sixty five for the high.
- 5:26Speaker 2: So yeah, man, we have a lot to talk about
- 5:30Speaker 2: this morning. This guy, this handsome devil that is sitting
- 5:33Speaker 2: right next to me, Peter Hawks, Man, I gotta tell you,
- 5:36Speaker 2: first of all, welcome to the studios, Welcome to Flying
- 5:40Speaker 2: the Wall Productions, Welcome to the airt Out Podcast, Welcome
- 5:44Speaker 2: to my microphone. I could talk with you all day.
- 5:47Speaker 3: Well, thank you, JD. It's a pleasure to be here.
- 5:50Speaker 2: From the Flying Ryan Foundation. I think it was I'm
- 5:55Speaker 2: trying to remember here because I'm getting old four opal
- 6:00Speaker 2: so things are slipping in the gears a little bit.
- 6:04Speaker 2: But I think it was maybe Chad Hollister that first
- 6:08Speaker 2: told me about the Fly and Ryan Hawks Foundation years ago.
- 6:14Speaker 2: But of course Tom Murphy from Sweethearts and Heroes starts
- 6:21Speaker 2: talking about you, and I was like, whoa, I gotta
- 6:26Speaker 2: get I got to get mister Hawks on the air.
- 6:30Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really quite a story, JD. We have as
- 6:35Speaker 3: part of our fundraising medium a thing we call community partners,
- 6:41Speaker 3: and one of our community partners is the Vermont Agency,
- 6:45Speaker 3: which is a division of Vermont National Life, and they
- 6:48Speaker 3: run a golf tournament and we participate that in that
- 6:52Speaker 3: every year and we've been very fortunate in fact this
- 6:55Speaker 3: year for the very first time, we won the tournament. Well,
- 6:59Speaker 3: one of their divisions is the Innovative Wellness Division, and
- 7:05Speaker 3: we gave a presentation of one of our three core programs.
- 7:10Speaker 3: We have three programs that really is what the Fly
- 7:14Speaker 3: and Ryan Foundation is all about. We give adventure scholarships,
- 7:19Speaker 3: an adventure scholarship is kind of a special deal with
- 7:22Speaker 3: us because we're not looking for Olympic athletes. We're looking
- 7:26Speaker 3: for people who are passionate and authentic in terms of
- 7:30Speaker 3: pursuing their passion, don't have the means to do it,
- 7:34Speaker 3: but we want to know who it is we're giving
- 7:36Speaker 3: a scholarship to, so we require and ask that as
- 7:40Speaker 3: part of the scholarship application process that these people share
- 7:45Speaker 3: with us their core values, so we know who it
- 7:47Speaker 3: is who is writing the application and verification of authenticity
- 7:54Speaker 3: and the essays we get are just off the chart.
- 7:59Speaker 3: Over the years, we've given a little over two hundred
- 8:02Speaker 3: scholarships and we're not looking for Olympic athletes. We're just
- 8:06Speaker 3: looking for people who need a hand up and we
- 8:10Speaker 3: want to facilitate the journey. So it's a real pleasure
- 8:15Speaker 3: to make these awards. In fact, this year is a
- 8:17Speaker 3: banner year. We've probably given twenty five or twenty six
- 8:21Speaker 3: awards already this year alone, and there's more to come,
- 8:25Speaker 3: so that's an exciting exciting thing. But getting back to
- 8:29Speaker 3: Tom Murphy, we gave a presentation on a relative to
- 8:34Speaker 3: one of our other programs, which is our primary program now,
- 8:39Speaker 3: which is the Core Values Challenge. The Core Values Challenge
- 8:42Speaker 3: is pure and simple. You know, tell us who you
- 8:45Speaker 3: are and what makes you tick and create a foundation
- 8:49Speaker 3: for your future behavior and attitude. Attitude is a critical
- 8:54Speaker 3: ingredient of everything you say, think and do, and there's
- 8:57Speaker 3: a lot of noise out there, a ton of it'll
- 9:01Speaker 3: get you off track if you let it, And if
- 9:03Speaker 3: you live by the expectations of others, you're apt to
- 9:07Speaker 3: go off track and not live the life that's really
- 9:11Speaker 3: available to you. Because all you've got is time. That's
- 9:14Speaker 3: your only ingredient in life. What you do with it
- 9:17Speaker 3: is your business. So it's best, we think for people
- 9:21Speaker 3: to know who they are and define themselves. And that's
- 9:25Speaker 3: what the Core Values Challenge elicits and it can happen.
- 9:30Speaker 3: It starts a journey in basically twenty or thirty minutes,
- 9:34Speaker 3: so it's really quick. And we gave a presentation at
- 9:38Speaker 3: the Vermont Innovative Wellness Office and after the presentation, the
- 9:47Speaker 3: lady who runs it, Maria Hoopsher, said, you know, there's
- 9:52Speaker 3: somebody I want you to meet up in Saint Albans,
- 9:55Speaker 3: guy named Tom Murphy. Have you ever heard of him? No,
- 9:58Speaker 3: I haven't. Well he an outfit called Sweethearts and Heroes.
- 10:03Speaker 3: I'm going to send a letter of introduction over to Tom,
- 10:07Speaker 3: and you guys hook up.
- 10:09Speaker 2: So she did that.
- 10:12Speaker 3: I called Subsequently. Tom said he would see me at
- 10:17Speaker 3: noon on Memorial Day and he had an hour. And
- 10:23Speaker 3: I came to realize when I met him that he
- 10:26Speaker 3: really is a UFC fighter type guy, a very imposing
- 10:30Speaker 3: physical character. But I was blown away by the hour
- 10:35Speaker 3: that we spent together. Oh yeah, I was blown away
- 10:39Speaker 3: because when we sat down, the first question he asked
- 10:43Speaker 3: me was tell me about your mom and dad. Well,
- 10:48Speaker 3: I'm there to talk about the foundation and see if
- 10:52Speaker 3: we can get a relationship going. And he starts out
- 10:56Speaker 3: with tell me about your mom and dad and you
- 11:00Speaker 3: j Do you know Tom? You know how he looks
- 11:03Speaker 3: at you. It's not intimidating. No, he's a big guy.
- 11:07Speaker 2: He looks at you through the back here.
- 11:09Speaker 3: He's like a fricking sponge. Yeah, he absorbs every renuance
- 11:16Speaker 3: of what you're saying.
- 11:17Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't miss anything.
- 11:19Speaker 3: And I had an hour to talk to him, and
- 11:22Speaker 3: forty minutes later, he's still asking me about my life
- 11:27Speaker 3: and I'm getting nervous. I said, Tom, I'd like to
- 11:31Speaker 3: talk about the foundation here and he said, I know,
- 11:36Speaker 3: I got a one o'clock mate, I'm going to push
- 11:38Speaker 3: it off a half hour, so don't worry about it.
- 11:41Speaker 3: So bottom line, at the end of the conversation, he said,
- 11:45Speaker 3: that was authentic, that was powerful, that was meaningful. That's
- 11:49Speaker 3: something we want to work with. I got two requests
- 11:52Speaker 3: for you, he said. He said, I want you to
- 11:54Speaker 3: get me into South Burlington, which we subsequently did the
- 11:57Speaker 3: high school. And I want to come down and spend
- 12:02Speaker 3: four hours with our video team and absorb your materials
- 12:06Speaker 3: and integrate them into our leadership program. And so that's
- 12:10Speaker 3: literally why we're here today. Tom likes what we do.
- 12:14Speaker 2: We like what he does.
- 12:15Speaker 3: I mean, his mission is awesome. Hopelessness is the equivalent
- 12:22Speaker 3: of the COVID pandemic. It is a huge, unspoken issue
- 12:31Speaker 3: that impacts the majority of young people today, and a
- 12:37Speaker 3: corrective medicine. One of the corrective medicines is to address
- 12:41Speaker 3: it head on. And Tom believes, as we do, that
- 12:45Speaker 3: people who know who they are and have defined themselves
- 12:49Speaker 3: are going to have a better shot at shutting out
- 12:51Speaker 3: the noise and the distraction and all the things that
- 12:55Speaker 3: can basically kick kids around because they don't have a
- 12:59Speaker 3: sense of direction, and it gives them a power of choice.
- 13:03Speaker 2: You're eighty seven years old, sharper than a tack, by
- 13:08Speaker 2: the way, But there's a lot more noise and distraction
- 13:15Speaker 2: going on in the current world than there was. I'm
- 13:20Speaker 2: guessing when you were ten.
- 13:23Speaker 3: I mentioned that frequently. I said, we grew up in
- 13:27Speaker 3: the forties and fifties in La La Land. We had
- 13:32Speaker 3: it so easy. It is so complicated to be a
- 13:36Speaker 3: kid today.
- 13:38Speaker 2: So what you're saying is there was no online bullying
- 13:40Speaker 2: back in the forties.
- 13:42Speaker 3: Oh, of course there was bullying. It was all that stuff,
- 13:44Speaker 3: but not online. But nothing not online, not online. It
- 13:49Speaker 3: was mono amado.
- 13:50Speaker 2: Wasn't it great living without a cell phone? Obviously you
- 13:54Speaker 2: remember those days.
- 13:55Speaker 3: Oh my god, there are days when I want to
- 13:58Speaker 3: go back back to that, to the simplicity of life.
- 14:03Speaker 3: But really it's kids today have a really complex task
- 14:10Speaker 3: because not all kids have great parents, and if the
- 14:16Speaker 3: parents assert their authority in counterproductive ways, the kids grow
- 14:21Speaker 3: up within those constraints. And we want to break the
- 14:26Speaker 3: kids loose so they have their own voice. And once
- 14:29Speaker 3: they have their own voice, and we've seen this happen
- 14:32Speaker 3: because we are our old program, which is I told
- 14:36Speaker 3: you we have three programs, the Core Values Program, the
- 14:39Speaker 3: Adventure Scholarship Program. In our original evaluation of Core Values
- 14:46Speaker 3: was a program we called Decisions. That's a deep dive
- 14:51Speaker 3: and it works in schools, and we've installed it in
- 14:53Speaker 3: roughly twelve or thirteen schools around the state. It's part
- 14:58Speaker 3: of the Personal Learning Plan, which is required curriculum, but
- 15:03Speaker 3: required doesn't mean it gets done. So of the seventy
- 15:07Speaker 3: two schools scattered around the state, we'ren't about thirteen or
- 15:10Speaker 3: fourteen that we know of, and probably another ten or
- 15:13Speaker 3: so that we don't know of. But we got a
- 15:17Speaker 3: long ways to go in terms of giving kids the
- 15:23Speaker 3: opportunity to take charge of their future and their decision
- 15:29Speaker 3: making and the time that they have to navigate through life.
- 15:34Speaker 3: You're either in control or you're a cork on the ocean.
- 15:37Speaker 3: And a lot of kids are getting distracted. Wow, and
- 15:41Speaker 3: we prevent that and it works so well.
- 15:45Speaker 2: Said I'm on Flying Ryan Hawks dot work on your
- 15:52Speaker 2: page right now where it says Ryan Hawks was a
- 15:58Speaker 2: dynamic human being with a passion in love for the
- 16:00Speaker 2: mountains in skiing. He loved a fulfilling life which was
- 16:05Speaker 2: dominated by fun, adventure, and determination. Although he lived only
- 16:11Speaker 2: twenty five short years, he lived every minute of his life.
- 16:19Speaker 2: Who is Ryan Hawks? Let's start there this morning, because
- 16:24Speaker 2: if you're just tuning in, Peter Hawks is with me.
- 16:28Speaker 2: He's my very special guest this morning, the executive director
- 16:33Speaker 2: of the Ryan Hawks or the Flying Ryan Hawks Foundation.
- 16:38Speaker 2: But who is Ryan Hawks? Let's we have to start there.
- 16:42Speaker 3: Man, absolutely. The Flying Ryan Foundation was founded in twenty
- 16:51Speaker 3: eleven upon the death of Ryan, who was competing in
- 16:57Speaker 3: a freeeride World Tour. He was an excellent skier and
- 17:00Speaker 3: highly respected in the free ride community because he was
- 17:05Speaker 3: the kind of person that every single skier and person
- 17:10Speaker 3: around him wanted to be around. Not because he did
- 17:12Speaker 3: anything special, but because he just exuded something. It was
- 17:17Speaker 3: somehow in the air where people were just attracted to him,
- 17:20Speaker 3: like moz to a light bulb. Literally. And he died
- 17:25Speaker 3: in twenty eleven, not because he did anything wrong. He
- 17:28Speaker 3: just executed a forty foot backflip, stopped it, as they say,
- 17:34Speaker 3: landed it perfectly. But it was a submerged rock under
- 17:37Speaker 3: the snow in an approved landing area that took him out.
- 17:42Speaker 3: And I know the way he thinks we were very close.
- 17:47Speaker 3: He would have said, hey, Dad, I knew the risks.
- 17:50Speaker 3: It is what it is. He wasn't the kind of
- 17:52Speaker 3: kid who lived in the rearview mirror. He was just
- 17:56Speaker 3: full of energy, and he was in the president looking forward,
- 17:59Speaker 3: and he didn't have time for negativity things. And one
- 18:05Speaker 3: of his values was play like I'm thirteen. He had
- 18:10Speaker 3: enough confidence that because he could, Ryan had the capacity
- 18:14Speaker 3: to be absolutely the most stupid, inane guy in the room.
- 18:18Speaker 3: And if he saw something that really looked like fun
- 18:20Speaker 3: and it was a little bizarre, didn't bother him at all,
- 18:23Speaker 3: and it'll just dangerously risk you it. Because he wasn't
- 18:26Speaker 3: looking over his shoulder to see what people would think.
- 18:28Speaker 3: That didn't matter if it wasn't mean spirited, it looked
- 18:32Speaker 3: like fun, that's all he needed to hit the gold
- 18:35Speaker 3: button and.
- 18:36Speaker 2: Have at it. Not to sound cliche, but it seems like, frankly,
- 18:43Speaker 2: you've earned every gray hair on the head.
- 18:46Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah. Now Ryan was not only a
- 18:51Speaker 3: gifted skier, he was a very good mountain biker. And
- 18:54Speaker 3: he brought me into mountain biking way back when I
- 18:58Speaker 3: was fifty eight. So that's that's when I've started. You're
- 19:02Speaker 3: starting to mountain. Yeah, I basically got the ball rolling.
- 19:06Speaker 3: I've ridden on road bikes a lot, but mountain biking
- 19:09Speaker 3: that's a whole different ball game. And mountain biking continues
- 19:12Speaker 3: to be a passion today. I still ride in a
- 19:15Speaker 3: competent fashion at eighty seven, and I am grateful beyond
- 19:20Speaker 3: belief for that privilege. I have a lot of good friends,
- 19:22Speaker 3: good riders, and we in Vermont have a network of
- 19:26Speaker 3: trails that is second to none. I've ridden all around
- 19:29Speaker 3: the country, Kingdom, Kingdom, Kingdoms, Kingdom, Waterbury, Catamount and uh
- 19:41Speaker 3: Little River Rochester. Rochester has some of the very finest
- 19:46Speaker 3: trails in the state. Killing is coming Killing. Yeah, I
- 19:52Speaker 3: didn't know Stock. It's trails are everywhere.
- 19:54Speaker 2: I didn't know about Woodstock, and I didn't know about
- 19:58Speaker 2: what was the other one that you said to Scotney,
- 20:01Speaker 2: Little River Rochester, Rochester? I didn't know about Rochester. I
- 20:04Speaker 2: know Little Rivers got a network.
- 20:06Speaker 3: There's a trail builder named Tom Lapester who just basically
- 20:11Speaker 3: lays down yellow brick roads through the woods, beautifully constructed,
- 20:15Speaker 3: machine constructed, very sustainable, water water sensitive.
- 20:20Speaker 2: Now hang on a second, now, so you're mountain biking
- 20:23Speaker 2: at eighty seven. When you go down, I fall.
- 20:28Speaker 3: I fall, but I wear protective gear on my knees,
- 20:31Speaker 3: protective gear on my elbows, backpack in case I land
- 20:35Speaker 3: on my back, which I have. I've been tossed off
- 20:38Speaker 3: a bridge, dropped ten feet, landed on my back and
- 20:41Speaker 3: gotten up unscathed. I've bounced off trees and fallen a
- 20:46Speaker 3: lot of ways that are hard to believe. And there
- 20:51Speaker 3: must be an upper hand that's taking me in my
- 20:56Speaker 3: path through life, because I do not deserve to be
- 21:00Speaker 3: fully intact now in terms of some of the risks
- 21:05Speaker 3: that I've confronted. Among those risks, I would tell you
- 21:10Speaker 3: this is getting off the track because we're here to.
- 21:12Speaker 2: Talk about the foundations of crying, of course.
- 21:14Speaker 3: But I did in two thousand and one and two
- 21:18Speaker 3: thousand and two win the National Masters Downhill Championship with
- 21:23Speaker 3: a series of races around the country. I picked up
- 21:25Speaker 3: the championship in Durango, Colorado, and went to the World
- 21:29Speaker 3: Championships in Canada in Bromont and won that for two years.
- 21:36Speaker 3: And it was a miracle. I had two miracle rides
- 21:39Speaker 3: and they came at the right time, and that's when
- 21:42Speaker 3: I packed it and said I've had a good run.
- 21:44Speaker 3: I'm out of here.
- 21:47Speaker 2: I might ask you some questions that are a little personal.
- 21:52Speaker 2: I don't script out all of my questions. I got
- 21:56Speaker 2: nothing to hide. I know you have nothing to hide.
- 21:59Speaker 2: But if I do ask you something that you would
- 22:01Speaker 2: rather not answer, tell me. So, have you written your obituary?
- 22:12Speaker 4: No?
- 22:13Speaker 3: I haven't written my obituary. But I have a neighbor
- 22:16Speaker 3: he keeps bugging me to write a book, and I
- 22:18Speaker 3: say I'd rather not. I'd rather just live not write
- 22:21Speaker 3: about it. All right, that was another question life. My
- 22:24Speaker 3: life is what it is. And yeah, there are stories
- 22:28Speaker 3: in there that are probably amusing and compelling and perhaps destructive,
- 22:33Speaker 3: but I just don't have the time, energy, or interest
- 22:37Speaker 3: to do anything other than just live my life. Wow,
- 22:43Speaker 3: I said this morning. I'll close that chapter pretty quick, exactly.
- 22:48Speaker 2: You know, I said this morning that this morning's episode
- 22:52Speaker 2: is going to have an impact on you, no matter
- 22:55Speaker 2: who you are, where you're listening from, or what you do.
- 22:59Speaker 2: And frankly, and let's be honest, this a lot of
- 23:06Speaker 2: this just really has nothing to do with extreme skiing
- 23:12Speaker 2: and everything to do with attitude and having a core
- 23:17Speaker 2: value as a human being and just being the best
- 23:19Speaker 2: person you can be on this planet while you have
- 23:22Speaker 2: the time to be here, which is a great privilege.
- 23:27Speaker 3: Gratitude is one of my strongest affiliations. I am absolutely
- 23:34Speaker 3: grateful every day and consciously grateful. You can be. You
- 23:39Speaker 3: can have gratitude that's kind of passive, or you can
- 23:42Speaker 3: have active gratitude. And my gratitude is I absolutely relish
- 23:47Speaker 3: the privileges of living that I enjoy and the good
- 23:51Speaker 3: fortune that I've had to get this far.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Intact, whose idea was it to create the Flying Ryan
- 24:01Speaker 2: Hawks Foundation and carry forth his legacy in a way
- 24:12Speaker 2: that would bring the message of his core value to others.
- 24:18Speaker 3: In the very beginning when he died, immediately Mountain Sports International,
- 24:24Speaker 3: which owned the Freeeride World Tour at that time, put
- 24:28Speaker 3: together a memorial fund, and Technical Blizzard came up with
- 24:33Speaker 3: some skis and boots and said, people who contribute to
- 24:36Speaker 3: the fund will get a chance to win some stuff.
- 24:42Speaker 3: But we saw that happening.
- 24:46Speaker 4: But I.
- 24:48Speaker 3: Wanted. I felt that Ryan put so much on the
- 24:52Speaker 3: table and his life was cut short at twenty five.
- 24:56Speaker 1: That.
- 24:59Speaker 3: He deserved to be the impact of his life, really
- 25:04Speaker 3: deserved to be extended in a meaningful way. And then
- 25:08Speaker 3: we found on his computer, much to our surprise, his
- 25:12Speaker 3: thirteen core values, and he said, there's a set of
- 25:15Speaker 3: rails we're running on. That's how we can make a difference.
- 25:19Speaker 3: And so we started sharing that for a couple of
- 25:22Speaker 3: years and people were really appreciative of what we shared
- 25:28Speaker 3: with them. And then we realized, we're only halfway around
- 25:32Speaker 3: the track to really make the world a better place.
- 25:37Speaker 3: Can we use Ryan as an example and get people
- 25:39Speaker 3: to write their own core values so that they also
- 25:44Speaker 3: could lead a more deliberative way of engaging life with
- 25:51Speaker 3: intention and so yeah, with intention, And so that's when
- 25:56Speaker 3: we started the Decisions program, and we worked with Burlington
- 26:00Speaker 3: High School and John Painter, who was head of the
- 26:04Speaker 3: math department and Ryan's math teacher, one of his favorite teachers,
- 26:09Speaker 3: and we got that thing going, and it's a four
- 26:14Speaker 3: step program. We're in the fall the kids as sophomores,
- 26:18Speaker 3: in what they called the Sophomore Program of Exploration, they
- 26:25Speaker 3: would figure out their core values in the fall, they
- 26:28Speaker 3: would turn their core values into pictures in the winter time,
- 26:33Speaker 3: and then in the spring they would have what they
- 26:37Speaker 3: called Sophomore Exhibition, where each kid who'd written his core
- 26:42Speaker 3: values invited the people who were important in his life,
- 26:46Speaker 3: always in control. With us, we're not in control. We
- 26:50Speaker 3: don't define core values. We have the kids define core
- 26:54Speaker 3: values for themselves, their core values. We're not trying to
- 26:57Speaker 3: feed them a copy of of Ryan's core values. We
- 27:01Speaker 3: want them to basically look to their heart, to their
- 27:04Speaker 3: gut and build core values from the inside out. That way,
- 27:09Speaker 3: it's aesthetic. It's twenty four to seven. You can't get
- 27:11Speaker 3: away from it because the source is yours and you
- 27:15Speaker 3: identify with it. But these kids in the exhibition then
- 27:20Speaker 3: get up and tell the people they invited. It might
- 27:24Speaker 3: be teachers, friends, teammates, parents, relatives, people that they invited.
- 27:33Speaker 3: So they controlled the room and they say, this is
- 27:36Speaker 3: who I am, this is how I'm going to engage
- 27:39Speaker 3: in life. And I have seen I've seen probably thirty
- 27:42Speaker 3: five or forty these presentations. I've seen parents in tears.
- 27:47Speaker 3: I've seen kids blossom who really have a hard time
- 27:50Speaker 3: string and two words together, who once they get going
- 27:53Speaker 3: on defining themselves, really come alive with authority and authenticity.
- 27:59Speaker 3: So Pat Burke, the principal South Burlington High School, said,
- 28:05Speaker 3: never in his years of administration as he's seen a
- 28:08Speaker 3: program has had a greater impact on the on the
- 28:13Speaker 3: culture and the climate of the school. It's absolutely class A,
- 28:18Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean it's perfectly implemented. In order to
- 28:23Speaker 3: do it at South Purlington High School, and this is typical,
- 28:28Speaker 3: a third of the teachers, it takes thirty three because
- 28:32Speaker 3: it's a three hundred kid class sophomores, it takes roughly
- 28:38Speaker 3: thirty facilitators to put this program in place and run
- 28:43Speaker 3: it through the course of the year. A third of
- 28:47Speaker 3: the teachers really embrace it and the kids get the
- 28:51Speaker 3: full benefit of what it can be. A third of
- 28:54Speaker 3: them just kind of go through the motions, and a
- 28:56Speaker 3: third of them kind of it's at the back of
- 28:58Speaker 3: the bus. So basically, our real penetration is about thirty
- 29:04Speaker 3: five percent in terms of full impact, and beyond that,
- 29:09Speaker 3: it's a step in the right direction, but not the
- 29:11Speaker 3: real deal. That's the real world. And that's and we
- 29:17Speaker 3: realized after seven or eight years of swimming upstream like salmon,
- 29:22Speaker 3: trying to get into the Vermont school system one by
- 29:24Speaker 3: one by one, we said, we gotta take this battleship
- 29:29Speaker 3: and turn it into a speedboat. And that's where the
- 29:32Speaker 3: Core Values Challenge came about, and now we've got something
- 29:36Speaker 3: that basically we can implement in a half hour from
- 29:40Speaker 3: start to finish. Here's what core values are, and then
- 29:44Speaker 3: there's a time for writing five or ten minutes, and
- 29:47Speaker 3: then there's a time for sharing the core values that
- 29:49Speaker 3: you wrote. But basically, get the ball rolling, you know,
- 29:53Speaker 3: in no time at all and accomplish the essentially the
- 29:56Speaker 3: same goal.
- 29:57Speaker 2: Shallow dive, Flying Ryan and Hawks Foundation dot org. Peter
- 30:02Speaker 2: Hawks with me my guest this morning here on aired out.
- 30:08Speaker 3: Do you you know?
- 30:11Speaker 2: I want to ask you something here. I don't know
- 30:16Speaker 2: much about you personally, although I'm getting to know you here.
- 30:20Speaker 2: I don't know if you're a spiritual guy. I don't
- 30:21Speaker 2: know if you're a religious guy.
- 30:23Speaker 3: But do you does it?
- 30:27Speaker 2: Uh come into your mind? Often?
- 30:34Speaker 3: I wonder.
- 30:37Speaker 2: If Ryan is watching all of this, listening to all
- 30:41Speaker 2: of this, observing all of the impact that his legacy
- 30:46Speaker 2: is having on others.
- 30:49Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, Uh.
- 30:53Speaker 2: One of my core values is and maybe maybe even
- 30:57Speaker 2: orchestrating everything.
- 30:58Speaker 3: And I got this core value at age seventy eight
- 31:03Speaker 3: because before that the platform I ran in was rotary.
- 31:08Speaker 3: I've been a rotarian for many, many years, and rotary
- 31:12Speaker 3: runs on what they call the four way test that
- 31:15Speaker 3: not all Rotarians abide by. But everything you say they
- 31:18Speaker 3: can do, is it the truth? Is it fair to
- 31:21Speaker 3: all concerned? Will it build goodwill and better friendships? And
- 31:24Speaker 3: is it beneficial to all concerned? And I was president
- 31:28Speaker 3: of the Burlington Rotary Club in nineteen ninety and I
- 31:32Speaker 3: would pull somebody out of the crowd. We had about
- 31:34Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty five members, and I'd say, tell
- 31:37Speaker 3: me about the four way test. What's the four way test?
- 31:40Speaker 3: They hated me. It's lucky I wasn't impeached. But by
- 31:44Speaker 3: the end of the year, everybody in that club knew
- 31:47Speaker 3: the four way test. They were Rotarians because they had
- 31:50Speaker 3: bought into that. And I gave one chance to exercise it.
- 31:55Speaker 3: But nevertheless, and then I basically supplement at that with
- 32:03Speaker 3: with my own core values when Ryan died along with
- 32:07Speaker 3: the rest of our border directors, and and that's been, uh,
- 32:12Speaker 3: that's been the thread that that I run on. And
- 32:18Speaker 3: it's uh, it's really a privilege, it's uh, and I'm
- 32:23Speaker 3: I'm very happy to to basically, Oh, and to answer
- 32:28Speaker 3: your question, one of my core values is what would
- 32:32Speaker 3: Ryan do? A very very powerful uh. Ryan is a
- 32:40Speaker 3: current event in my life. Every day, every time the
- 32:44Speaker 3: sun goes down, I say good night Ryan. And one
- 32:50Speaker 3: of the most special treats I've ever been involved in
- 32:55Speaker 3: in life was a week after Ryan died, there was
- 33:00Speaker 3: another Free Ride Tour event in Snowbird in Utah, and
- 33:05Speaker 3: they asked me to come out because I'd done an
- 33:07Speaker 3: eulogy here in Burlington that was well received and the
- 33:17Speaker 3: people running the Free Ride World Tour wanted me to
- 33:19Speaker 3: do the same thing out at Snowbird. Ryan's girlfriend at
- 33:24Speaker 3: the time was her father was the director of lift
- 33:28Speaker 3: operations at Snowbird. And it turned out it was kind
- 33:31Speaker 3: of a snarky day and the wind was howling, and
- 33:36Speaker 3: they don't run the tramway when the wind's more than
- 33:42Speaker 3: twenty five miles an hour. It was about forty that day.
- 33:45Speaker 3: It was really up there. But and the eulogy was
- 33:51Speaker 3: going to be read at the top of Loan Peak
- 33:53Speaker 3: at a mountaintop, which was appropriate for Ryan and this
- 34:00Speaker 3: this Angel Collinson, was Ryan's girlfriend. Her dad said, where
- 34:04Speaker 3: can I get these people up there? And they hauled
- 34:07Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty people up to the top of
- 34:10Speaker 3: Loan Peak and there were low hanging clouds and it
- 34:13Speaker 3: was just a sliver of light way off of you know,
- 34:18Speaker 3: one hundred odd miles out west, and the wind was howling,
- 34:23Speaker 3: and there were prayer flags all over the place. There
- 34:25Speaker 3: was a good sound system. I was nervous as hell
- 34:30Speaker 3: because I had three pages of this eulogy and the
- 34:34Speaker 3: wind's blowing, and I'm like, oh, if I lose this,
- 34:40Speaker 3: I'm in deep, deep trouble here. And I got in
- 34:44Speaker 3: there about five or ten minutes and the sun just
- 34:48Speaker 3: came out from this little sliver of sky and it
- 34:51Speaker 3: came across the bottom of the clouds and it came
- 34:54Speaker 3: right up onto Lone Peak and it didn't last more
- 34:59Speaker 3: than forty seconds. The sun just went over the horizon,
- 35:04Speaker 3: no question. That was Ryan. I just stopped immediately when
- 35:12Speaker 3: I saw that, I said, here comes Ryan, and we
- 35:16Speaker 3: all in silence watched Ryan's appearance and disappearance. The brilliance
- 35:24Speaker 3: of his life and the fact that it's history. Never
- 35:29Speaker 3: forget it. Priceless, priceless memory. Some memories you just can't shake,
- 35:35Speaker 3: you know, they're very very special. That was one of them.
- 35:47Speaker 2: If you could sit and have a beer with Ryan today,
- 35:56Speaker 2: with Ryan being twenty five years old, and ask him, Ryan,
- 36:05Speaker 2: I'm your dad, What do you think my number one
- 36:10Speaker 2: core value is right now? What do you think He'd say.
- 36:19Speaker 3: I've never contemplated that question. But bottom line is I
- 36:30Speaker 3: was his mentor on an equal basis. Because he was
- 36:37Speaker 3: my mentor, he was equally as much my mentor as.
- 36:41Speaker 4: I was his.
- 36:43Speaker 3: And he would say my commitment to his welfare was
- 36:55Speaker 3: really important to him. One of the ways I committed
- 36:59Speaker 3: to his welfare. Here he's on a mountain bike where
- 37:03Speaker 3: there's high risk, high danger. He's on a ski ski
- 37:08Speaker 3: in the ski world there was high risk, high danger
- 37:10Speaker 3: as well. And I said to Ryan at one point,
- 37:15Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about risk. And most
- 37:19Speaker 3: parents say be careful and they put negative and concerns
- 37:27Speaker 3: in place. And I said, Ryan, when it comes to risk,
- 37:35Speaker 3: here's what I got to say. God gave you a
- 37:39Speaker 3: wonderful brain. I expect you to use it, and no
- 37:44Speaker 3: matter what happens in life, I'm there for you. End
- 37:47Speaker 3: of story. That was my entire and one and only
- 37:52Speaker 3: discussion I had about risk. Now, there were times when
- 37:57Speaker 3: I was holding my breath, but I had confidence in it.
- 38:02Speaker 3: And so risk was our companion. And we know you
- 38:07Speaker 3: either get the long straw or the short straw in life.
- 38:12Speaker 3: I mean, I absolutely do not deserve to be here.
- 38:18Speaker 3: You know, I started out at age seven. I had polio,
- 38:22Speaker 3: and so I wasn't able to navigate for a while,
- 38:28Speaker 3: and so when I could navigate again, being mobile was
- 38:35Speaker 3: far more important to me than it probably is to
- 38:38Speaker 3: most folks. And I've been dedicated to exercising my capacity
- 38:46Speaker 3: as what I call a career mediocre athlete all my life,
- 38:51Speaker 3: and and a lot of people think I'm reasonably gifted
- 38:57Speaker 3: at some of the stuff I do, but I know,
- 39:00Speaker 3: damn well, I'm nothing more than a mediocre athlete who
- 39:03Speaker 3: loves doing what I'm doing and happy to do it
- 39:06Speaker 3: the best I can, and not worried about the highest
- 39:09Speaker 3: levels of accomplishment, just you know, just exerting what I
- 39:14Speaker 3: can do and loving it. And the key thing is,
- 39:18Speaker 3: I mean, love what you're doing or it's not authentic.
- 39:22Speaker 2: Tell us about your motocross days, because we're talking about
- 39:27Speaker 2: risk right now. You're you're you're basically have been addicted to.
- 39:37Speaker 3: Oh absolutely a very real need for speed. You put
- 39:42Speaker 3: a younger kid, and maybe as an older kid too.
- 39:45Speaker 2: You put a dirt bike into a tree and ended
- 39:48Speaker 2: up with a new hip. What was that all about?
- 39:53Speaker 3: Well, it was a kind of a surprise, but uh,
- 39:58Speaker 3: you know, and the problem with the hip was the
- 40:03Speaker 3: procedure was fine, but I was at my fiftieth reunion
- 40:09Speaker 3: at Dartmouth on the green formal dinner President of the
- 40:13Speaker 3: college was speaking, and my hip dislocated when I was
- 40:19Speaker 3: doing nothing but sitting in a chair. That was far
- 40:23Speaker 3: and away the most terrifying thing that ever happened to me, really,
- 40:28Speaker 3: and that's the only thing that really raised hell with
- 40:31Speaker 3: me subsequently, because after that dislocation, the hip was unstable
- 40:39Speaker 3: and it was a candidate for dislocation really. And walking
- 40:47Speaker 3: was difficult since that day, which was twelve fifteen years ago.
- 40:51Speaker 3: Now I haven't been able to walk with a dam
- 40:56Speaker 3: and it hurts every step, every walking step I take
- 41:01Speaker 3: herts Uh. Not not fatal, but you know, it's uncomfortable,
- 41:07Speaker 3: let's say uncomfortable. I don't want to get off on
- 41:10Speaker 3: that in a big way. But the bottom line is
- 41:12Speaker 3: that I've learned how to circumvent the reality of that instability.
- 41:20Speaker 4: Uh.
- 41:20Speaker 3: And Uh, mountain biking, I'm stabilized by the bike. Skiing,
- 41:26Speaker 3: I endure the discomfort, no problem. I have a strong
- 41:30Speaker 3: turn to the right and weak turn to the left,
- 41:32Speaker 3: but works both ways. Uh, you're still skiing tennis. And
- 41:38Speaker 3: the doctor said, no way are you going to do
- 41:42Speaker 3: those things? And I said, sorry, you're talking to the
- 41:45Speaker 3: wrong guy. I'm doing those things. If I'm going to
- 41:49Speaker 3: go until there's there's we used to say in motorcross racing.
- 41:53Speaker 3: You know, keep the wick and go deep into the curve.
- 41:56Speaker 3: Keep that, you know, keep that guy going and you know,
- 41:59Speaker 3: get the whole. And I'm gonna go deep into the
- 42:02Speaker 3: curve of life is I've got no intentions of giving
- 42:06Speaker 3: up mountain biking. I'm only eighty seven. I got a
- 42:09Speaker 3: ways to go, uh and and and I'm competent. So
- 42:16Speaker 3: I'm loving it. So that's that's joy. Yeah.
- 42:21Speaker 2: You you're just uh, you're you're at some point gonna
- 42:26Speaker 2: go out with a bang. I mean it's a guarantee.
- 42:29Speaker 3: Well yeah, uh, actually that's something you know in terms
- 42:32Speaker 3: of risk management. Uh, I've contemplated life without sports, and
- 42:39Speaker 3: I'm prepared to adjust if the situation calls for it,
- 42:44Speaker 3: but not until it calls for it. So I'm gonna
- 42:48Speaker 3: go till there's no more milk in the bottle. You know,
- 42:51Speaker 3: when the milk gone. And then you know, watch me
- 42:55Speaker 3: do a jigsaw puzzle and love it. It's to love it. Wow,
- 43:05Speaker 3: and you know, and it goes without saying family and friends, priceless, priceless.
- 43:13Speaker 3: It's not the things in life that that basically you
- 43:18Speaker 3: take with you as your age. It's the relationships. The
- 43:22Speaker 3: relationships are incredibly important and that things come when things go,
- 43:28Speaker 3: and it's not what the focus should be. I was
- 43:33Speaker 3: in financial services by way of background, among the number
- 43:38Speaker 3: of things that I've done, but I learned about money
- 43:43Speaker 3: from Ryan. I learned about how to properly value where
- 43:48Speaker 3: money fits into life, the fact that it's a necessity,
- 43:51Speaker 3: but not to be compelled by it. That said, I
- 43:55Speaker 3: can tell you a story that that I love. A
- 43:58Speaker 3: Ryan's story when he was at UVM, it took him
- 44:04Speaker 3: seven years to graduate because whenever there was snow on
- 44:07Speaker 3: the ground, he was not to be found in class.
- 44:10Speaker 3: And but he had the dean of the engineering school
- 44:15Speaker 3: and his professors wrapped around his little finger and and
- 44:20Speaker 3: he managed to h to get to the finish line
- 44:24Speaker 3: and graduate with with pretty good grades. But he was
- 44:28Speaker 3: on the campus bus one day and and with a friend,
- 44:35Speaker 3: and he saw this girl at the back of the
- 44:38Speaker 3: bus who had a hat, and he said to his friend,
- 44:42Speaker 3: I gotta have a hat like that. That's that's look
- 44:44Speaker 3: at that hat. It's kind of a thick wool knit
- 44:47Speaker 3: hat that she'd knit for herself. So he's He basically
- 44:53Speaker 3: worked his way to the back of the bus and
- 44:54Speaker 3: he said, Hey, I really love that hat. Could you
- 44:57Speaker 3: make me a hat like that? She said, yeah, I
- 44:59Speaker 3: could do that. And his friend said, hey, Brian, we
- 45:03Speaker 3: got to get off here. This is our stop. And
- 45:06Speaker 3: Ryan just pulled out twenty dollars, gave her twenty dollars
- 45:09Speaker 3: and jumped off the bus. And his friend, a very
- 45:14Speaker 3: good friend, close friend, he said, Ryan, are you out
- 45:17Speaker 3: of your skull? You don't even know her name. She
- 45:21Speaker 3: doesn't know your name. You know what was that all about?
- 45:25Speaker 3: Ryan said, don't worry about it. Well, four or five
- 45:29Speaker 3: weeks went by. She bade the she bade the hat.
- 45:33Speaker 3: She carried it around in her purse for four or
- 45:35Speaker 3: five weeks. Then it happened a chance across Ryan and said, oh,
- 45:39Speaker 3: I have that hat for you. So you know, it
- 45:43Speaker 3: worked out. It was a transaction that was driven by spirit,
- 45:49Speaker 3: not not risk management. But that was Ryan if Ryan
- 45:56Speaker 3: loaned you money, he'd have a little black book. If
- 46:02Speaker 3: you paid him, paid him back, that was great. If
- 46:04Speaker 3: you didn't, he didn't ruminate about it. He didn't. He
- 46:08Speaker 3: didn't have a ledger. He was just He did things
- 46:11Speaker 3: for the right reasons. And that's one of the reasons
- 46:14Speaker 3: he is just so broadly respected because he was just
- 46:18Speaker 3: so real, so easy to engage, so level, so non
- 46:22Speaker 3: being spirited, and very very dedicated to the welfare of
- 46:27Speaker 3: the planet. Very he felt there are serious flaws and
- 46:32Speaker 3: the way humans are going about things.
- 46:36Speaker 2: Did I know you know the Egan brothers. Did Ryan
- 46:40Speaker 2: get a chance to meet them ski with them? Did
- 46:44Speaker 2: he get involved with anything with Warren Miller?
- 46:48Speaker 1: No?
- 46:50Speaker 3: No, he did do some ski for Ski the East.
- 46:54Speaker 3: They had an outfit called the Meatheads that turned out
- 46:58Speaker 3: a batch of really really on ski films, and he
- 47:02Speaker 3: he was He was one of the principal skiers for
- 47:06Speaker 3: Ski the East, along with Jamie Stall, who died in
- 47:11Speaker 3: Stow probably ten fifteen years ago. Back in Hell's Brook,
- 47:18Speaker 3: made one turn too many and went over the over
- 47:21Speaker 3: the cliff.
- 47:22Speaker 2: I can can barely hike hell Brook, oh let Brook.
- 47:28Speaker 3: If you climb up little summer game, you say, do
- 47:31Speaker 3: we ski down is there?
- 47:32Speaker 1: No?
- 47:32Speaker 3: Yeah, but in the winter time the snow hall collects
- 47:35Speaker 3: in there, yeah.
- 47:36Speaker 2: Us. So thank you for coming on this morning. But
- 47:51Speaker 2: the biggest takeaway from all of this what you're bringing
- 47:59Speaker 2: to schools, what you're bringing to the eyes, but most
- 48:03Speaker 2: importantly the ears of so much of our youth in
- 48:08Speaker 2: our schools, just as Sweethearts and Heroes does, is to
- 48:16Speaker 2: begin as young as you can, put in a magnifying
- 48:22Speaker 2: class on what really matters to you, what your core
- 48:26Speaker 2: value is. Some of us, like you alluded to earlier
- 48:33Speaker 2: this morning, respectfully, are not necessarily learning that from our parents.
- 48:41Speaker 2: Some of us are.
- 48:43Speaker 3: We're not getting into schools either. I mean, this is
- 48:46Speaker 3: not given the attention, and this is Tom and his
- 48:52Speaker 3: crew have done an incredible job reaching two million kids,
- 48:58Speaker 3: over two million kids with their programs, and now our
- 49:03Speaker 3: little piece is going to be included in their programs.
- 49:08Speaker 3: So our footprint through Sweethearts and Heroes could extend dramatically.
- 49:16Speaker 3: So I am very very excited about that and thrilled
- 49:21Speaker 3: to have this developing relationship with Sweethearts and Heroes and
- 49:25Speaker 3: suspect that we'll be working closely together for some time.
- 49:28Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it. It's a journey. We're just
- 49:31Speaker 3: starting out. We're at base camp. Now.
- 49:34Speaker 2: When did you when did you meet Tom? When did
- 49:36Speaker 2: you get started?
- 49:37Speaker 3: Got started? Memorial Day this year, a couple of months ago,
- 49:43Speaker 3: A couple of months ago, a couple of months ago,
- 49:45Speaker 3: this brand new what a Bag came down the following month,
- 49:49Speaker 3: you know, with his videography production crew. He knows to
- 49:54Speaker 3: pick up, to pick up our stuff. And now they're
- 49:58Speaker 3: incorporating it into their leadership program.
- 50:01Speaker 2: Brilliant.
- 50:01Speaker 3: So I'm just happier than a pick out in the
- 50:07Speaker 3: pen there man.
- 50:09Speaker 2: Both of you just powerhouse here in the state of Vermont.
- 50:16Speaker 2: I mean the Flying Ryan Hawk's Foundation and Sweethearts and Heroes,
- 50:22Speaker 2: that's it.
- 50:23Speaker 3: Yeah, I too unusually purposeful organizations that really are synergistic,
- 50:37Speaker 3: and I think we can only make each other better
- 50:40Speaker 3: at what we do.
- 50:43Speaker 2: How does one take the core value challenge? What's the
- 50:50Speaker 2: easiest way to do with it? And how is Jersey
- 50:53Speaker 2: Mike's involved with this?
- 50:55Speaker 3: Now we have twenty two twenty three community partners. Jersey
- 51:00Speaker 3: Mikes is one of our community partners. When you walk
- 51:04Speaker 3: into their two stores, one in Burlington, one in South Burlington.
- 51:09Speaker 3: The first thing you see is our logo on the door.
- 51:12Speaker 3: That's the only non Jersey Mics representation of something. But
- 51:18Speaker 3: that's basically it's a suggestion that there's value to go
- 51:25Speaker 3: with the logo. Then when you go inside, we have
- 51:28Speaker 3: a big poster on the wall twenty four by thirty
- 51:31Speaker 3: six inches that shows Ryan's sky high flying through the
- 51:35Speaker 3: air and his core values are written in the sky
- 51:39Speaker 3: out in front of him. And at the bottom of
- 51:42Speaker 3: the poster there's a little card that says, take this card,
- 51:45Speaker 3: do your own core values like you've seen from here
- 51:48Speaker 3: from Ryan, and when you submit them to us, we'll
- 51:53Speaker 3: send you a coupon for a free sub And so
- 51:58Speaker 3: they're putting word out. They've got their employees doing their
- 52:03Speaker 3: core values. Uh. The owner is promised to do his
- 52:07Speaker 3: core values for about three months now and I'm putting
- 52:11Speaker 3: the wood to him to get it done so uh
- 52:15Speaker 3: and and he's accepted that without throwing me out, and
- 52:20Speaker 3: so it uh. You know.
- 52:23Speaker 4: So we.
- 52:26Speaker 3: Basically our website, yeah, gives you everything you need, everything
- 52:33Speaker 3: you need and you just go to the Flying Ryan
- 52:35Speaker 3: Foundation dot org and uh go to a core values
- 52:40Speaker 3: challenge and it's all right there and you can give
- 52:45Speaker 3: it a cursory attention, or you can give it really
- 52:48Speaker 3: deep involved attention. It's all all individual, you know. We
- 52:52Speaker 3: leave it up to the individual and we'll we'll we'll
- 52:55Speaker 3: coach whenever asked. So we make ourselves a failed for
- 53:00Speaker 3: anybody who was to start that journey and do it
- 53:04Speaker 3: in an authentic way, meaningful way, deliberative way. We're there
- 53:09Speaker 3: to help and we want to make the world a
- 53:11Speaker 3: better place. I like to say the power of one.
- 53:14Speaker 3: We talked to one hundred people and one person decides
- 53:18Speaker 3: to do the core values, one person. We made the
- 53:21Speaker 3: world a better place, one person, one day, one event,
- 53:25Speaker 3: one core value, one decision at a time.
- 53:29Speaker 2: That's exactly, That's exactly.
- 53:31Speaker 3: Basically our reason for existence in a nutshell. And now
- 53:37Speaker 3: with over two hundred adventure scholarships we've got we've got
- 53:43Speaker 3: these little acolytes and disciples who are out there who
- 53:46Speaker 3: kind of know our story and they provide us with
- 53:50Speaker 3: additional candidates for adventure scholarships because they don't keep it
- 53:54Speaker 3: under their hat, the fact that flying Ryan was a
- 53:58Speaker 3: meaningful event in their life. In fact, I just wrote
- 54:06Speaker 3: four checks last night for four new Adventure scholarships. One
- 54:12Speaker 3: was a girl from British Columbia who was just getting
- 54:18Speaker 3: into Free Ride and qualified to go out to the
- 54:22Speaker 3: North American Junior Championships.
- 54:25Speaker 2: And I was reading about her last time.
- 54:27Speaker 3: And when she was out there, she said, I'd kind
- 54:31Speaker 3: of heard about the Flying Ryan, but I didn't know
- 54:34Speaker 3: what it was. But out at these Championships, they gave
- 54:39Speaker 3: a Flying Ryan Core Values Award to someone for exemplary
- 54:46Speaker 3: acts of character, and I was blown away by that.
- 54:50Speaker 3: So I came back and looked at the website and
- 54:53Speaker 3: really really got pretty excited about what you guys do
- 54:58Speaker 3: and found out that maybe you could help.
- 55:00Speaker 2: Was this Vanessa McFarlane.
- 55:02Speaker 3: Yeah, incredible, Yeah, yeah, no more than I do.
- 55:09Speaker 2: I'm showing it right now on the page.
- 55:15Speaker 3: And so, I mean, Chili that our program has on
- 55:19Speaker 3: kids once once, once we penetrate that outter shell is
- 55:24Speaker 3: really pretty good.
- 55:25Speaker 2: She says. This was my first time competing in South
- 55:28Speaker 2: America and my second international competition took fourth in Chile. Unreal. Yeah,
- 55:39Speaker 2: and that's just one of countless, yeah, countless Adventure scholarships
- 55:46Speaker 2: that you've given out.
- 55:48Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the number is going to go up, you know,
- 55:52Speaker 3: And I mean it's it's twenty five now and the
- 55:55Speaker 3: year is not over. We'll probably wind up giving thirty
- 55:58Speaker 3: or so year, and I suspect next year it will
- 56:04Speaker 3: be more than that. And but each one of those
- 56:07Speaker 3: is an event. Each one of those, uh ish is
- 56:13Speaker 3: the start of a relationship. Sure, And just last night
- 56:18Speaker 3: I decided to install a new program, a new activity,
- 56:24Speaker 3: which is I'm going to ask my operations manager to
- 56:29Speaker 3: compile a list of the birthday of each of our
- 56:33Speaker 3: Adventure scholars and they're going to get a personal phone
- 56:36Speaker 3: call from me on their birthday, say, how you doing?
- 56:40Speaker 3: You know you hooked up with us back in you know,
- 56:47Speaker 3: five years ago, ten years ago. Where's your plan taking you?
- 56:51Speaker 3: Each of our scholars has a has a place in
- 56:54Speaker 3: our on our website and where oh I see post,
- 56:58Speaker 3: we post their core values, post any blogs that they
- 57:01Speaker 3: send us. So and we want to tighten that relationship
- 57:06Speaker 3: and create a sense of identity that's not just one
- 57:10Speaker 3: and done right. We want the Adventure Scholarship commitment to
- 57:16Speaker 3: basically be a lifetime deal.
- 57:18Speaker 2: It's it is absolutely amazing to me. I mean, and
- 57:25Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly who told me about you, but
- 57:33Speaker 2: it was a while ago. It was a while ago.
- 57:35Speaker 2: It was before Tom, and I am just so honored
- 57:42Speaker 2: and blessed to have met you off the air, but
- 57:48Speaker 2: even more blessed to have you on the air with
- 57:52Speaker 2: me this morning. I mean, it is just incredible the
- 57:56Speaker 2: impact that you're having. You're we see vehicles driving around
- 58:02Speaker 2: with your sticker on them. We see what you're doing
- 58:09Speaker 2: with jersey mikes, we see what you're what you're doing
- 58:12Speaker 2: in our schools, we see what you're doing with sweethearts
- 58:15Speaker 2: and heroes, and it is absolutely critical. What's going to
- 58:24Speaker 2: happen to the Flying Ryan Hawks Foundation when Peter joins Ryan.
- 58:39Speaker 3: Yeah, that's uh, that's a that's a good question, very real. Uh,
- 58:46Speaker 3: I'm getting older. I have to concede it. Not in
- 58:49Speaker 3: my head, but my body is definitely telling me I'm
- 58:52Speaker 3: getting older. And my head's telling me that too, because
- 58:57Speaker 3: I don't have as many marbles as I used to have. Uh,
- 59:00Speaker 3: things come harder for me now in terms of metal acuity,
- 59:05Speaker 3: and they should the way I've knocked my head around
- 59:07Speaker 3: through the years. But that having been said, the Foundation
- 59:15Speaker 3: is a business and it has to be run like
- 59:17Speaker 3: a business, and I've been responsible about attending to the
- 59:24Speaker 3: business side of the foundation as well as the vision.
- 59:29Speaker 3: My passion is in the mission. My passion is not
- 59:32Speaker 3: in running a business. That's the last thing I want
- 59:35Speaker 3: to be doing. But I do it because it's there
- 59:38Speaker 3: to be done, and I do it in a way
- 59:40Speaker 3: that gets it done with deliberation. And we've always run
- 59:45Speaker 3: in the black, and we are accumulating resources to handle
- 59:53Speaker 3: the transition and in now the Adventure Scholar program. Graham.
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: I have two very gifted daughters. Alicia, who's active in
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: the foundation.
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: Really I didn't know this.
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: Alicia runs sports marketing for UVM Athletic Marketing. Knows the
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: Burlington Chittenhan County community backwards, forwards and sideways. It's really
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: doing well up there. And she runs our golf tournament,
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: the Vermont Charities Golf Tournament. She does that, she does
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: our own tournament in September, Ryan Ryan Golf Tournament. And
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: collectively we're really adding some resources. We run on just
- 1:00:45Speaker 3: under one hundred thousand dollars a year typically that seems
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: to be about where we're plateaued and.
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: You're you're visiting how how many schools and we're.
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: In you know, roughly a dozen schools formerly and some
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: more informally that we don't know about. But penetration is mercurial,
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: you know, it depends on what facilitator you get because
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: classes get broken down into groups of eight or ten
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: and it's just the real world, you know. I grew
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: up in a very very modist situation down in Broderborough,
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: the divorced mother nineteen forty six, and we lived in
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: a three story walk up. She made life work on
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: twenty five dollars a week. She made life work for us.
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: I always had a roof over my head. We always
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: had food, not much else but and my dad was
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: just kind of floating around out in the world and
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: he got wanderlust after the war. So I basically grew
- 1:01:54Speaker 3: up without and my mom was kind of a bookworm.
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: She was a dutiful mom, but not a warm, cuddly, fuzzy,
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: help you with your homework kind of mom. So I
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: grew up with a very strong sense of independence from
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: age seven when I had polio on and I would
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: have given my right arm looking back from my perspective
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: now to have had the core values challenge put in
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: front of me, or the mentoring I didn't. I didn't
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: know or think I needed a mentor. I figured whatever
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: it was to be was up to me and I
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: needed I could have used a lot of help, and
- 1:02:46Speaker 3: I could have made probably some decisions differently if i'd had,
- 1:02:52Speaker 3: you know, the right foundation of support that I didn't
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: know I needed at the time. So that gives me
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: a sense of purpose in terms of giving kids a
- 1:03:03Speaker 3: perspective to grab life by the horns and get their
- 1:03:09Speaker 3: hand on the tiller. Be the boss. But getting back
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: to the question, my daughter Alicia is very capable of
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: handling the foundation if something happens to me. My daughter Samantha,
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: older daughter, she's fifty two now. She's the vice president
- 1:03:32Speaker 3: director at Facebook. And Samantha is like a cat you
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: throw up in the air, she's going to land on
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: her feet. And she's got a position of high responsibility
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: at Facebook, and she's immense capacity. But she's got a
- 1:03:51Speaker 3: very very full life with her Facebook life and her family,
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: and she does a great job with her family and
- 1:03:58Speaker 3: she's on the board of director. But I don't burden
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: her with foundation stuff because she just doesn't have the bandwidth,
- 1:04:09Speaker 3: uh currently to handle it. But she is perhaps considering
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: retiring in the not too distant future. So if something
- 1:04:23Speaker 3: were to happen to me between Samantha and Alicia. The
- 1:04:28Speaker 3: foundation will be in better hands than it is now.
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: Do they get more competent hands than it is now?
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: Do they do your daughters try to tap your brakes
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: in any capacity?
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: No.
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: The only person who taps my brakes is my wife.
- 1:04:49Speaker 3: She's kinstant to be telling me I'm doing too much.
- 1:04:52Speaker 3: I shouldn't do this, I should do that. Do you
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: listen and she doesn't.
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: No.
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: My sense of responsibility to the foundation outweighs my love
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: for my wife, and my wife is the most important
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: thing in my life. She is the glue. Everything I
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: learned about family I learned from my wife everything. So
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: she's been absolute gift in my life. Jackie, if you're listening, Jackie,
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: I asked you to listen this morning. Hope you're there.
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: I love you.
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: What would you say to closing out this morning? What
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: would you say to Ryan right now if he was
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: sitting next to you on the couch.
- 1:05:46Speaker 3: I would say, Ryan, I love you, buddy. You know
- 1:05:51Speaker 3: you're absolutely a current event in my life, and not
- 1:05:56Speaker 3: only my life, but in the lives of literally thousands
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: of people who ask themselves before they act, what would
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: Ryan do? That's a priceless legacy to have that kind
- 1:06:11Speaker 3: of currency fifteen or fifty years after you've died, and
- 1:06:18Speaker 3: so you had a meaningful life, of full life. And
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: even though we lost your body in twenty eleven, your
- 1:06:26Speaker 3: spirit is absolutely current and you you're a current event
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: in the lives of lots and lots of people. Thanks
- 1:06:39Speaker 3: for coming in here, Peter, My pleasure.